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In Two Deep
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Forgot to mention Groundhog's Day with Bill Murray and how it applies to this situation
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Transcript
Intro Music Setup
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David Isaacs
I really got to figure out how to set up. Is there a...
00:00:39
David Isaacs
Oh, there is like an and infinity sign on that intro-outro thing.
00:00:44
Big Brain
David Price- Huh that's fun.
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David Isaacs
Yeah. I guess I don't know how long it'll run if it's not on infinity.
00:00:50
Big Brain
yeah.
00:00:53
David Isaacs
So I kind of like where it changes pace or like the sound like at 20 seconds changes. So that's what I always wait for. So i I leave it to like 30 seconds. But yeah, very simple, very simple intro sound thing. It's just like the sound is right to me, you know, and I just like I just like those those sounds.
00:01:16
David Isaacs
okay It's kind of the the same thing that I when i listen to music. It's like, oh, I like the you know, I was feeling the sound on that album. you Or maybe like, I like this song from this artist because of the you know sound that they created, but the
Nostalgia in Music Formats
00:01:32
David Isaacs
rest of the discography, I just don't, I can't vibe with.
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Big Brain
it
00:01:36
David Isaacs
It's really weird.
00:01:38
Big Brain
uh yeah uh think you're supposed to say vibe now i like the vibe of this song like the vibe of this album can't say cd anymore that's that's my take because i'm i'm an old man
00:01:53
David Isaacs
No, we'll get to the point where, know, everyone cares about vinyl and then and don't think we're ever getting back to A-tracks or cassette tapes or CDs or...
00:02:05
Big Brain
cds are actually cds and cassettes were actually popular during the pandemic i think and i think they're actually getting more popular among younger people just because that's what their their parents grew up with right so feel free to be wrong about that i really hope i don't want to see uh kids unwinding cassettes uh like i used to and as a kid um anyway david how are you
00:02:30
David Isaacs
tired what about you
00:02:32
Big Brain
Bah humbug. Yeah,
Authenticity in Podcasting: To Edit or Not?
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Big Brain
same.
00:02:34
David Isaacs
yeah
00:02:36
Big Brain
is It's been a crazy week and a half, you know. I feel like you every time I talk, you send me bet you set me straight. So I think you need you to work some of the magic on this one, too.
00:02:49
David Isaacs
I about, I was hoping you could help me out.
00:02:52
Big Brain
Oh, this might just be a tune-up.
00:02:52
David Isaacs
So I don't know. now're we're both fucked.
00:02:55
Big Brain
Yeah, right.
00:02:56
David Isaacs
God damn it. like We got a, we had a line before we started recording.
00:02:59
Big Brain
Sheridan.
00:03:01
David Isaacs
and I asked you if you needed anything and if you wanted to talk about anything. And these, these are some of the things I need to know.
00:03:07
Big Brain
No, we just going to flush it out here. you know we're just to give the people what they want. We're going to give them real, real podcasting. No editing, including him breathing and you know that 30-second intro we kind of flubbed.
00:03:25
Big Brain
It is what it is. Let's keep rolling. We've got 30 minutes, right?
00:03:28
David Isaacs
Yeah. You know, there's something to be said about off the cuff and then, know, things that I come in wanting to talk about. But if you, all the burps and coughs and sneezes and heavy breathing.
00:03:37
Big Brain
Oh, sure, sure, sure.
00:03:44
David Isaacs
Yeah. Those are all authentic. That's why we leave them in. It has nothing to do with me being too lazy to edit. I just hit record and then publish. That's, that has absolutely nothing to do with it.
00:03:54
David Isaacs
So, but,
00:03:55
Big Brain
Fair enough, fair enough.
00:03:58
David Isaacs
Yeah, I've just been tired.
00:03:58
Big Brain
Well...
Work Challenges & Communication
00:04:02
David Isaacs
Things at work. I was in a pretty good flow last week, and then I had a bombshell dropped on me. so Partially my fault. Partially an issue with some of the data.
00:04:14
David Isaacs
so I spent a long time on Friday. you know, I kind of get to that fight or flight mode. So I was running it on pure adrenaline and then eight hours on Sunday.
00:04:25
David Isaacs
so that kind of continued throughout the weekend. But yeah, I think i I got in too deep at one point, was sending a bunch of updates and making sure everyone was Communicate like everyone was aware of what I was finding and what I was looking into and then Sunday I finally realized what it was and it was a you know pretty pretty hard thing to track down So I was pretty proud about that and I was able to rectify Most of the changes that we pushed that shouldn't have been but come to find out somebody else had mentioned this a couple years ago and they didn't prioritize their really feel like it was needed to be prioritized.
00:05:10
David Isaacs
And like, well, sure, but we're all operating like this isn't a thing.
00:05:18
Big Brain
Yeah, sure.
00:05:18
David Isaacs
That's, that's, you know, I'm, I'm pissed off that I spent all that time digging into this first of all, but second of all, like, how does no one know that this is an issue?
00:05:30
David Isaacs
Like, why are we just setting and forgetting about stuff? This is, it's not the right mindset to have. So it was like part of it. And then today kind of meet with my manager and we're both just completely out of it. And i'm like, yeah, we're not, neither of us are having a good day.
00:05:50
Big Brain
Yeah.
00:05:51
David Isaacs
Uh, but it happens, you know, and you start to learn a little bit more about what it's like to just human ingenuity and things, you know, digging into stuff, making discoveries, reporting it out and trying to gain that knowledge. But yeah, I mean, it's, it's like a really weird thing that I never really understood and kind of what I realized more about myself. I'd always, when things don't really matter, I like being wrong because if I'm wrong, somebody is incentivized to correct you, you know, about things that,
00:06:29
David Isaacs
don't really matter. Somebody asks you whose name is, was responsible for doing something. Cause they couldn't remember. Like, I think it's this person. And then maybe somebody corrects you.
00:06:41
David Isaacs
So at least they get the, you know, the answer quick enough, but for yeah some reason, like
00:06:45
Big Brain
Yeah.
Learning from Mistakes
00:06:50
David Isaacs
people are just afraid of being wrong or being stupid.
00:06:54
David Isaacs
It's like, no, I love being wrong in, in some cases, not when, things actually matter but and some of the other stuff like i don't mind asking a dumb question i don't mind you know saying well i thought we were doing this and then getting corrected on it because you know it's like no what No one's incentivized more to give an answer to prove you wrong or correct you or something. even like growing up, a you'd have that in the classroom.
00:07:28
David Isaacs
No one would raise their hand and teacher ask a question. So I just shoot my hand up and just, you know, whatever I thought it was, if I was between two things and I'm wrong and somebody else has more confidence, put their hand up and get the right answer. and I don't really care about being right. I just want to move things along.
00:07:46
David Isaacs
You know, like that was, uh, and, and same thing with like, does anyone want to read? I'm like, yes, please pick me. i don't want to sit through somebody that is going to read really slow or,
00:07:58
David Isaacs
know, whatever else I kind of, you want to keep this going and starting to realize some of that just, you know, about my own introspection and my own management of how I do things and throughout life. And when maybe I get a little too deep or get a little too siloed off that I don't realize in enough time that I need to take a step back or I need to take a break or I got to stop, you know,
00:08:24
David Isaacs
try to find a way to stop thinking about what I'm currently doing and come back to it with a fresh, fresh set of eyes, fresh mindset. And I think it's some of those things that are very hard to figure out.
00:08:38
David Isaacs
And it's the same with anything that we do is healthy. You know, that, that feeling you get compounds over time. It's not instant gratification. So with work, it's easy enough to get,
00:08:52
David Isaacs
that, uh, you know, feeling of accomplishment, that aha moment and this and that, but it' was just you by yourself and you're sitting there figuring things out and trying to figure out what works. It's like talking to my therapist today, you know, and like the fishing spot analogy when the fish aren't biting and I pick a bad spot, is it a bad day? Do I, you know, switch spots if I switch spots and then somebody else comes here and catches a bunch of fish and would be mad. Like, Same thing with figuring out kind of what works for you.
00:09:23
David Isaacs
And I think that trial and the effort that it takes for me with that trial and error is sometimes the reason why I won't start something. There's also that fear of failure and, you know, feeling ashamed that I couldn't commit and stick with something. But I think that other aspect of it, you know, really digs at me as well.
00:09:46
Big Brain
Um, yeah, I, I totally get that. Um, you know, like you on, if I think I'm on, if I'm understanding your last part correctly, um, it's yeah, hard for you to pull away. And I, yeah, I get that more than most because especially when I'm coding, um, you know, something was not working or, you know, I don't feel like asking chat GPT or anything like that. You know, I just want to figure it out on my own. Like I want to feel all that sense of accomplishment, but like I've learned with my current role that like you kind of have to be jack of all trades and a master of none in a lot of situations. like yeah I mean, I know Google Analytics. I know Google Tag Manager. i know how to code. i know you know HTTP responses. like I know basic project management. like I know all of these things, but um I don't necessarily do all of them.
00:10:41
Big Brain
well but i'm well you know i have to be versed enough to be able to communicate right like i kind of feel like a project glorified project manager at some points but um i kind of just have to take the win when i can get it even if it's just like sign up a new customer for you know an online account like quick easy made me some sort of self of you know self of accomplishment um uh or sense of accomplishment at self-accomplishment you know, and, um, but on longer projects, like I've I've been trying to figure out with a vendor, um, how to map a commission for salespeople from our front end system to our backend system for like three months. And like, none of us can figure it out. And, um, it's like, I understand. It's like, it makes me feel dumb in some aspects when I can't,
00:11:40
Big Brain
when we start with a simple concept from like a salesperson and then now we have to like trying to turn into this, like it's just become this whole massive API testing and that, but we're getting down a funnel, um you know, to where I think,
00:11:59
Big Brain
hopefully it'll, it'll work here in the next test, ah test batch that we do. Um, but you know, ultimately i think control what we can control. And unfortunately sometimes that's not a cooperating code base, a cooperating, you know, spending all that time, like you said earlier, on working on a project and then this was a huge problem. And somebody should have pointed at us out, you know years ago, months ago, whatever the case is.
00:12:26
Big Brain
um, that sucks, but you know, we just kind of have move on to like the next thing. And we don't necessarily have to look at it as like getting that, at least for me, don't try to look at it as win. It's just trying to get, something accomplished, even if it's just a small step.
00:12:47
Big Brain
Um, so, you know, and I'm, for me, you know, my, kind of pivoting is my issue has been like training customers because like i know absolutely nothing about plumbing industry like i could tell you what a flush valve is i could tell you what a floor flange is i can tell you what a toilet is but all of those separately or put together i would not be able to tell you anything i could not sell anything to our customers so
00:13:20
Big Brain
I'm going through these demos with customers and be like, Hey, you here's a shop, you know, like our shop site. And, you know, I just, for me, I just kind of feel like an idiot, like just haplessly wandering around, showing them things that probably aren't even necessarily relevant to their, their, their own business.
00:13:41
Big Brain
You know? And so I've kind of requested that whoever, whoever's, account I'm demoing that they as a salesperson or on this call, um, you know, to kind of point me in the right direction of product that they would, they would buy. Right. So, um, I'm working on presentation skills, learning my own business a little bit more, um,
00:14:05
Big Brain
But like it's you know it's I feel like it's just more added onto my plate of already being kind of like a glorified feeling ah like a glorified project manager. so um But sales sales is finally getting involved with the site and we're getting more activity. So you know I'll pick up my bottom lip, as they say, and...
Discovering Personal Strengths
00:14:30
Big Brain
keep moving forward you know it's our this industry is picking out faster and faster i guess that's what i'm trying to say and i'm having a hard time coping with with that david so i don't know if you have any tips for me
00:14:45
David Isaacs
Not necessarily, but I do know time invested, least for me, you know, I ah do my best work in a crisis and I'm, you know, very motivated by that.
00:14:57
David Isaacs
So if there's sometimes I try to make a mountain out of a molehill. If I get in too deep and try to find these things, then, you know, that's kind of one of the things that I had questioned myself about.
00:15:12
David Isaacs
But at the same time, I mean, these small wins, they're time invested, understanding this and other people that get to that understanding and just kind of the sharing of knowledge.
00:15:28
David Isaacs
I don't want, you know, siloed knowledge. I don't want having meetings with people that should have corrected me, that should have known about these things, not saying anything and just going about like, it's not that big of a deal. Like, why are we even worried about this? Let's just push this through. and then lo and behold, it's still an issue.
00:15:54
David Isaacs
because I took the time to confirm that things got changed the way that they were supposed to. And it's, yeah, a lot of difference and change management and these things that just take take a lot of time.
00:16:10
David Isaacs
So for me, I get up from my desk a lot and i I step away. I give myself that mental break. I just, you know, I i know typing and thinking and sitting there, like, i at least for me, I can only work at one speed.
00:16:27
David Isaacs
And if it's for some novel concept or if it's for some knowledge gain or trying to fix a specific problem, like there is some sort of balance between getting that thought out of your mind and then coming back to it.
00:16:43
David Isaacs
there's and I've talked about this before and it might be a while, might've been a while, but There's certain things that we do in life and, you know, kind of who we are as people. And it leads us down this road into doing those certain things in different aspects of our life that we'd never really associated it with.
00:17:06
David Isaacs
So thinking about other problems that you've had and other problems that you've solved. or times where you had to learn about something very quickly. it it can help in that regard. But at work, yeah, I mean, there's only so much time. And I understand that we have concessions about things like we accept that like, oh, this isn't 100% correct, or like, I'm probably not the best person to be doing these things. But Sometimes that, that initiative is enough.
00:17:39
David Isaacs
And maybe at a certain point, like, I mean, it's hard to, because you never want to go up to somebody and tell them like, Hey, I can't do this. i don't have time for this.
00:17:51
David Isaacs
Or they're asking for your help on something and you can't give it to them. Like it doesn't feel good. So how do we,
00:17:59
Big Brain
Yeah.
00:18:01
David Isaacs
Think about, you know, kind of separating that and never want to be that person that feels like you can't go the extra mile or you can't figure out this problem or you're not learning fast enough. But I think the, at least for me, the other way to look at it is, you know, there's always more to learn.
00:18:20
David Isaacs
Whether you're spending time doing things that you'd like to do or if you're, you know, identify with more of a problem solver mentality.
00:18:31
David Isaacs
and you want to come up with a solution, then unless until you get that big breaking aha moment solution, then yeah, you're going to be you're go to be strung out.
00:18:45
David Isaacs
Well, strung out is probably not the best word for it, but you're gonna be disappointed until you two you get to that point. And I think that's a lot of times in life too, is that we just don't have that gratitude or we can't look back and see, you know, I'm a lot better at,
00:19:02
David Isaacs
you know the pseudo product management role than I was a couple months ago or a problem reoccurs and it's close to something that you've worked on before. So you can solve it really quickly and you get that like small victory and and things. So I think it just kind of all comes in a cycle.
00:19:22
David Isaacs
and And speaking to my therapist today about good habits is those those points where you have to force yourself are some of the most important times because the hardest times are the ones that, you know, you really solidify things in your mind, but they're always going to, they're always going to be out there regardless of what you're doing.
00:19:46
David Isaacs
But, you know, what does forcing yourself really mean? What is, um if you're forcing yourself to spend time on something that's worth doing,
00:19:58
David Isaacs
then yeah but how do we
Acquiring New Skills
00:20:00
David Isaacs
you know kind of change that mindset how do we stay positive when you're being asked to do something that you're not you know to the very trained on very knowledgeable of in certain regards like to me it's tough and wish i I wish I knew how to how to be better at it. So I'm kind of right there with you. um,
00:20:31
Big Brain
Yeah. um No, I um You know, it's trying to have the time to, like, teach yourself these things and, like, whether it's a new skill or or just a new tool for, you know, coping or, um you know, whatever, mental,
00:20:51
Big Brain
um mental you know, quip or, that's where I'm trying to look for it, habit. Yeah. um you know you have um obviously habit breaking is much more difficult but if you train yourself over time you know for a new for these new skills um it gets a little bit better like i'm not like the greatest problem solver um i don't know if that makes me stupid or or what but um
00:21:23
David Isaacs
no
00:21:26
Big Brain
I've been, i kind of, I've always been of a visual learner, like hands-on too, like, and and fail a lot. um You know, failed in careers, I failed in projects. I'm currently failing, you know, feels like I'm failing, but I know I'm just kind of also learning you know on technologies and things that especially for a platform that i have little note to no ability to look under the hood for things and it's very difficult for me to assess these problems um but you know i'm i'm learning especially when things come up a new platform you know like google analytics like right now i'm dealing with a tag manager issue
00:22:08
Big Brain
a company who's advertising is trying to put other tags onto our site, but it's really messing with our analytics and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. They, they're the ones who are messing it up. And they're asking me to be like the quarterback for, with our platform provider. um They installed the tag correctly. It's there's something going on with their you know, this company's tags, but I'm trying to convince convince them. And it's like, I'm, I'm trying to be polite, but direct. And like, usually I'm one or the other.
00:22:43
Big Brain
So being uncomfortable or comfortable in the and uncomfortable situations is like, if it's, if there's any sort of like,
00:22:55
Big Brain
tension or conflict i usually just avoid it and you know apologize like immediately but like right now i'm and just sitting in the pocket i'm like i don't you know it's what they teach you boxing
00:23:10
Big Brain
you don't you so you don't necessarily switch positions you head movement and angles you know you're getting in there Um, I'm having to tell this person like politely, like you were incorrect. You need to fix this problem. Like you're the one who's been holding up this whole process.
00:23:29
Big Brain
Um, I feel like I'm, it's just been email exchanges last couple of days, but it's just, it's, you know, it's exhausting. Like I'm tired with you. Like just all the mental gymnastics I have to do sometimes,
00:23:43
Big Brain
with this job and you know, I'm not complaining cause I love working at my job, but there are obviously difficulties about it, um, especially externally. So, but that's what happens when you work for wholesale slash online retailer, like your reputation and everything is very important. So, but that also comes with ter certain territories. So, um, you know, and to put it,
00:24:12
Big Brain
a different way um i've been playing i know i think i talked about this last week i've just been playing a lot of battlefield 6 not the greatest game out not the even the most played it's just it's a series that i've played since i was in high school um but normally like when i'm like taking the objective i'm a pretty slow going player you know all if i'm playing like so support where i can like you know heal myself or resupply myself. I'm usually pretty slow going player when I get to objective, you know, and I share everything's clear. If I see another player, you know, stop and then take two steps backwards. But now I'm kind of playing more like an aggressive assault style, which I'm not normally used to. And I've, you know, been getting frustrated because
00:24:57
Big Brain
I have a good aim. Like I'm going think I'm like in the top 20% of aim, like, or accuracy, but like, you know, I'm not exactly using the best equipped guns for some of these situations and I lose and I get frustrated, but, um, you know, you learn how to play, you become a better player this way.
00:25:18
Big Brain
um you know, maybe when I was younger, made had of a little bit of more natural ability, but, you know, I've just been kind of seizing myself to and different situations, even if it's just a video game. So, um, kind of just have to accept that some things are going to be frustrating and beyond that. I just need to get better at.
00:25:38
Big Brain
Um, but I think trying out new things and, you know, life video games work, um, you know, and learning to fail is going to ultimately or be a best thing. But I, you know, like you said earlier, looks like if you feel like you're failing, it does suck. You know, I'm definitely some of that one of those people who someone will look at me as I'm working on a project with and they're asking me a question. I go, I have no idea.
00:26:09
Big Brain
And then like in my head, I'm like, why am I here? Like, I'm not going to be able to help in this situation. I need to be able to research things. You give me an issue, I'll get back to you. Then if you have more questions, I'll research and get back to you.
Reflecting on Failures for Growth
00:26:21
Big Brain
But it's just for me, I guess the problem solving just like being quick, more quick-witted, more quick-minded on things. so um But with me, that you know that just comes with time. So
00:26:40
Big Brain
But that's been kind of like my last week and a half or so in a nutshell.
00:26:44
David Isaacs
Yeah. I mean, least for me, know, the small things, things that people don't care about versus, you know stuff that I care about. It's like, yeah, I made a mistake.
00:26:59
David Isaacs
I'm figure out a way to fix it. Oh, this is... it's going to be really hard for me to nail down the small percentage of this that is my mistake versus, you know, just data structure mistake and all that. So i figured out a way to figure all that stuff out, you know, the best that anyone was going to be able to do with it. So I take solace in that and I kind of reuse some of the logic that I had done for something else in the past, but,
00:27:35
David Isaacs
As far as the, you know, failing aspect of things, I think it's really hard to, you know, see on the other side of it, of how much effort you're actually putting in, how much you're actually learning until you can apply it to something else.
00:27:54
David Isaacs
So with this feeling of or whatnot, it's, it's terrible, but it's also, you know, kind of a good reminder that that time invested in doing these things will pay dividends.
00:28:09
David Isaacs
Compounding interest will pay dividends over other aspects of your life to, you know, who are you when there's a fire or a crisis?
00:28:23
David Isaacs
know, who are you when you're not having the best day and you're tired and you, You still got to, things are still due. you still got submit or commit certain updates and in these things. So um at least for me, i'd like to get more organized and knowing and understanding that of, you know, what, based on how I feel today, based on what I have to get done, can I do extra?
00:28:52
David Isaacs
What else should I be looking into? What else do I want to get, you know, kind of more comfortable with? And some days you just don't have that time. Today I didn't have that time.
00:29:03
David Isaacs
Tomorrow might be different. So like keeping it top of mind and then even when I'm in too deep, like how do I, you know, take a step back and really feel and think about, know, I'm not, I wasn't able to solve this problem. I wasn't able to figure out this specific thing, but I, I know more about this specific data structure. I can understand it. I can explain it better.
00:29:30
David Isaacs
Or I looked up and found like some other way to pull the data from SQL. So it's easier for me to understand it or something. But I think with,
00:29:47
David Isaacs
or at currently right now too, and in your job. And I think just the overall landscape is that like always feeling behind. So with that time spent doing this, so like thinking like, is this really worth it?
00:30:01
David Isaacs
And yeah, I do think there are times where you're spending a lot of time doing something you don't want to do, spending a lot of time doing things that you don't want to, or,
00:30:13
David Isaacs
that you don't like to do, you don't want to do. And it's helpful somewhere down the line. i wish I knew when, because a lot of times it takes a long time for that to actually show up, but it's really, at least for me, i feel like tracking that a little bit better make me feel better about it. And that change of perspective of, you know, I failed, but I took initiative or I couldn't figure out this problem, but I'm a lot better at understanding where the smoke is and where the fire is.
00:30:54
David Isaacs
And I, I feel more confident in being able to tackle this tomorrow or how do you prioritize and do some other things like what currently needs to be done? do I want to learn more about? And,
00:31:10
David Isaacs
There's always more to learn, but some days you just don't really have the time and some days you're just dealing with stuff that's so tedious and so disappointing because anytime you're dealing with people, it tends to be disappointing.
Learning by Cooking: A Potluck Story
00:31:27
David Isaacs
So I don't know if that's a really helpful to you, but I hope you hope it gets better for you.
00:31:27
Big Brain
yeah
00:31:37
Big Brain
yeah same you man like uh uh damn it had a point no I just lost it uh well let's move on to my next thing but yeah um I've also been cooking a lot for myself more I'm branching out, like made ah macaroni and cheese soup, which doesn't sound that difficult. You know, I just put in the Velveeta and you're done, but I made it from scratch um for my potluck today. but this was me last night and my wife provided instructions, but I still kind of had to do on the fly because she does eyeball testing for
00:32:21
Big Brain
um like measuring ingredients and spices and things because you know she's at that level or she can can she she can do that um you know still pretty much lose you know looking at it to gain knowledge but you know there's sometimes there it comes the bumps and bruises um you know started off making a roux don't know if you know what that is but kind of just like getting your base seat base to where it can get kind of thicken um but like think i burned half of what i made just because i had the i was only on medium heat but i think it was on like the higher end of medium and know so i kind of scorched that so i had to add to it a little bit at a lower temperature so it took longer um but you know and i just got back on track and I made a pretty delicious mac and cheese soup.
00:33:15
Big Brain
Um, my coworkers all loved it.
00:33:16
David Isaacs
Hell yeah.
00:33:17
Big Brain
yeah I filled a five quart, um, crock pot with it. And there is probably less than a bowl, which is, that's 12 ounces. And I think I filled half it. So I think I had six ounces of it left.
00:33:33
Big Brain
Um, Mind you, there's only 12 people at this office, so it's not like, you know, there's no company, but my my soup was popular. So, um but, you know, and it was a little on the salty end. i think just when I added some of the cheese, I didn't take into account some of the sodium level. So you know, but i I balanced that with like some more onion powder, garlic powder and black powder, you know, to help.
00:33:59
Big Brain
So those flavors are a little bit stronger and it turned out very well, but. um I guess my point is that, you know, when you have the time to learn, um take it, obviously, if you know, you're just going lazy and play video games instead, which I've done that more times than I can count my entire lifetime.
00:34:23
Big Brain
um You know, if you don't have the time to do it, then, you know, try to find some time, set some time aside or you know,
00:34:35
Big Brain
just make a mental note of i have to come back to this or i have to do this at some point so um yeah i've been doing a lot of succeeding but by failing first uh lately so you know just looking to be as jackson harris used to say one percent better every day
00:35:00
David Isaacs
Yeah, that's...
00:35:00
Big Brain
and just starting, just starting off um this new year in the right foot.
00:35:07
David Isaacs
Yep, that's kind of one of the things they don't teach you is that success comes from failure. There's very seldom times that you succeed without ever failing.
00:35:23
David Isaacs
so
00:35:24
Big Brain
Yeah. And
00:35:25
David Isaacs
well
00:35:27
Big Brain
Yeah, i mean, you could, you know, find ah some of the funniest people in comedy, you know, and they'll tell you that I got here by putting in the work consistently, failing, you know, absolutely nail a joke one night and then the following, you know, felt I said it the same way, it same delivery, and the audience just didn't feel it. So, you know, there's a lot there's a lot of different ways to look at it, but...
00:35:54
Big Brain
If you learn something from your failure, then you you just, you that's your victory. You learned something. so
00:36:02
David Isaacs
You know, it's good mindset to have. Taking an initiative, doing work, stuff that we don't want to do, you're always taking something away.
Balancing Work and Leisure
00:36:14
David Isaacs
And you can't play scared. Like, ah sports analogies, somebody that a quarterback throws three interceptions.
00:36:26
David Isaacs
Like you can't play like you don't want to throw an interception because then you're not playing the game. You can't work to not want to try to make a mistake because that's not work. You know, you got to he had trust and have that confidence and put things out of the back of your mind just to, you know, kind of keep moving forward. And if it comes down to it and you have to make,
00:36:50
David Isaacs
self-reflections you know this is me talking to myself not to the general public but you yeah it's all about that balance it's all about know being it attuned to who you are and regardless of the situation that your identity doesn't change who you are doesn't change so ah holding solace to that fact and yes some days it
00:36:56
Big Brain
Yeah, I get it.
00:37:19
David Isaacs
some days you shouldn't play video games and other days it's necessary. And that's concession that you make for that specific day and that specific time. But that's the the whole balance and the checking in of, you know, I had a tough day.
00:37:34
David Isaacs
i Don't really feel like doing some of the stuff that I wanted to do this week today. so I'm going to play video games. You know, i have a, there's stuff that I have to do. doesn't have a strict deadline.
00:37:50
David Isaacs
And I know I'll come back tomorrow and reassess, but for now that's nothing that's
00:38:02
David Isaacs
stressful. Isn't the right word. Nothing that's pressing. that I need to get done and I need to figure out. So, I mean, some days it is okay, but you, you decide when it's appropriate and you decide when you're putting things off.
00:38:22
David Isaacs
And, uh, I feel like, yeah, you can't play scared, right? And you gotta, Keep working at it. Keep understanding it. And give yourself grace to step away from the computer or play video games when appropriate.
00:38:39
David Isaacs
And when you want to disregard your other duties, because, yeah, you don't want to make it excuse every single day, but some days it's it's worth it for your own sanity and other things. So I just, yeah.
00:38:56
David Isaacs
Yeah. Hope that me, you, everyone else, anyone listening can take solace in that fact that like you don't, failure doesn't really mean much of anything.
00:39:10
David Isaacs
People that are too afraid to fail or too afraid to try and kind of want to sit within the things that they know very well are my mind kind of hampering themselves from that experience of being wrong.
00:39:27
David Isaacs
And like your, your fear of being wrong, your fear of failure, your fear of committing to something. And then now you're expected to do it. That's a fear that I have, uh, in a lot of ways, but I just, some things you just got to do, you know, and it's kind of like talking to one of the people I work with and I think about like the game, you know, the corporate game.
00:39:56
David Isaacs
and the jargon and the acronyms and all this stuff. It's like, am I really that smart to, to not just want to play the game? Cause I understand it enough. I just hate it.
00:40:07
David Isaacs
But is it smart to be a martyr? In some, in some cases thinking about it, it's probably not, you know, but I think, uh, you know, the people that are, they had enough of a constitution within themselves to know that,
00:40:25
David Isaacs
They didn't believe in what they were taught to believe. They didn't believe in how certain things were going. So they've made a martyr out of themselves and it's, it's respectable, but then it comes down to like, is that smart?
00:40:40
David Isaacs
Who knows?
00:40:45
Big Brain
yeah. Um, yeah.
00:40:51
Big Brain
So there are some times where I just feel like I'm going to have all the answers in the entire world and, and I would have to cope with having that responsibility of everything that had, the knowledge of the entire world. And I think I would just crumble completely crumble under that weight of that. Literally.
00:41:10
Big Brain
yeah. Um,
00:41:13
Big Brain
yeah um I think that's all that I wanted to talk about. so do you have anything else?
00:41:21
David Isaacs
just kind of really associating things like that we grew up with. And i really would like to know and understand kind of like sports in general of people that grew up playing sports and,
00:41:37
David Isaacs
It probably made him a better student, better employee, because that gratification of winning or all that effort you put in to become a better player and it pays dividends.
00:41:49
David Isaacs
But in life and in work, it's a little bit harder for like that understanding. Because i always I didn't like to practice, but I knew it was necessary to get better for myself and help the team out.
00:42:02
David Isaacs
And at work, I kind of understand that too, of like me digging into issues and me taking initiative and asking these questions or being wrong and allowing somebody to correct me and helps the team out.
00:42:14
David Isaacs
But in terms of, you know, health and exercise and these things, it's not really something that I put a lot of value towards. So that's where I'm like trying to shift that mindset. And like some days you're just not going to win.
00:42:29
David Isaacs
There's no, You're not racing against somebody. I'm not training for something specific. it's It's really on myself to assign value to things and whether or not I'm assigning value to it or I'm too scared to try at something because maybe it doesn't work and I'm kind of scared to stop doing it the way that I'm doing it because maybe that's the best it's going to be.
00:43:00
David Isaacs
I don't want to change up, you know, instead of going to the gym three days a week down to two, I don't want to change like going to the gym at night rather than in the morning. there's just like a lot of things that I think about and in work, especially it's like, you know, I'm out on an island.
00:43:18
David Isaacs
It seems like in a lot of a lot of times in a lot of different ways. And, um, it, it's tough some days, but also kind of exciting the point of,
00:43:30
David Isaacs
you know I don't know if I'm doing things correctly. i don't know if I'm doing things that they want me to do, but I'm just trying to get you know better every day. Shout out to Jackson Harris, 1% better every day, and it'll it'll compound.
00:43:52
David Isaacs
So that's kind of what I'm leaving with.
00:43:55
Big Brain
yeah uh shout out to an rip it's our boy um yeah i i think on the the athlete point i'll just i'll close with this um on the athlete points like you learn all about competition and like you know if you're um
00:44:19
Big Brain
I think that's what kind of talking to your point of, you know, an athlete makes a better student or employee. Yeah. It's like the level of, kind you know, competitiveness. Cause you know,
00:44:31
Big Brain
at least for me, I'm a very competitive person. and i don't know if that was just like my natural instinct or if that was just, you know, instilled in me because of sports. Like I didn't, I didn't like being like the probably two short play center, but maybe too fat to play a guard in basketball. But so i was in the small forward power forward position and, you know, I was getting out rebounded by guys who are six foot eight and I'm six, three at most.
00:44:58
Big Brain
um I learned to kind of, learning how to box out somebody who's taller and potentially stronger than I am um you know it's all about ledgering leveraging your hips the right way and really driving them back so um yeah I I think that's kind of the awakening in me right now is just like a a sense of competition of Um, like you said, I'm out on an Island. There's, I believe it, the movie is Gettysburg, but I, um, there's a line. I think it's, I want to say it's Jeff Daniels character, but I'm not 100% sure. He goes to the very, the very far left of like the union soldiers line. He goes, gentlemen, take a look to your right. You'll notice men. You take a look at your left. There is nothing. We are the end of the line.
00:45:53
Big Brain
And that's what being like, you know, some sort of project manager or, you know, analyst where you're like, as David said, out on an island, like.
00:46:06
Big Brain
um It's it's sink or swim and you got to win, you got to think to win. So because you are you are the answer, like you have to have the answer. And it puts a lot of pressure, but if you look at it from the competitive, you know, failure learning mindset,
00:46:25
Big Brain
um you know you'll find that you have the knowledge that you didn't think you had before. And i and and just taking that 1% every you'll there.
00:46:42
Big Brain
um you'll you'll get there because just completely flinching was, you know, flipping them a mindset overnight or instantly isn't a thing. Like we're not going to truly be able to break, you know, all of our bad habits, but we can switch them.
00:47:03
Big Brain
So that may be there a little bit less each time. um you know, guess kind of analogy of, or part of the code of Dexter, you know, is to, uh, uh, I mean, actually, I'm not even going to go there. Nevermind. But getting back to the broader point, you know, if you make a football, is just make a pitcher trying to teach him a new pitch,
00:47:29
Big Brain
but he has to learn how to switch an arm angle. goal Now you're just asking him to be a completely different person. But if you learn how to teach, or if you can teach them, or if you are and a person who are learning to maybe throw the pitch at a slightly different angle, or not even change harm name or have to, so you're not telegraphing what pitch you're throwing, but you're going to develop that over, you know, simulated bullpen sessions and,
00:47:58
Big Brain
spring training and all that sort of things but that' that's all practice like you can't skip practice and if your practice is failure then learning by failing then that's that's your that's your lesson that's been taught so i don't want to with that
00:48:15
David Isaacs
Yeah, who comes out in the end? The person that failed a bunch of times and had to figure out how to make things work? Or, know, the person that had all the answers for a while and then gets put into a situation where you're going have to adapt and you're gonna have to have change and you're going to have to look at things in a different way than he had before and realize that fact and know when it's, you know, a good time to adapt instead of sticking to what you currently are doing. So there's a lot, there's always nuance and different variables to be had with all aspects of our life and
00:48:56
David Isaacs
We only have a certain amount of time, certain amount of time every day, week, month, you know, on this earth at large. So sometimes that time invested and your own mental sanity or further learning or trying to ah figure out why you made a mistake or the failures and things that you had is all that's, you know, worth time doing as long as you assign that to it.
00:49:25
David Isaacs
So really just like a change of mindset and like, yeah, you know, I, I took initiative, it didn't work out and, but I took X, Y, and Z away from it. then, I'll have time tomorrow I'll have time this week or you know this has to be done so I'm gonna get it to the best of my ability to that point and come back to it later you know it's just the kind of the fact of life you know you can't do everything every day but the time you spend doing one thing can pay dividends to something else down the line and
00:50:04
David Isaacs
It's hard to remember that sometimes, especially for me. So, all right, I'll kind of cut it there. Melatonin I took, staking in. all right.
00:50:14
Big Brain
All right.
00:50:17
David Isaacs
Thanks, everyone.
00:50:18
Big Brain
Yeah, thank you.