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Sleep Habits
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Brian and Dave talk about sleep habits and a whole mess of other things, per usual.
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Introductions and Greetings
00:00:01
David Isaacs
Welcome, everybody. it is March 31st at time of recording. I'm here with Brian.
00:00:12
Big Dog
Hey Brian. Hey David, how you doing? I'm good.
00:00:15
David Isaacs
Good, good,
Challenges in Sleep Routines
00:00:17
David Isaacs
good. Today we're going to be talking about sleep habits and yeah kind of like one of the harder things that I've been trying to deal with is getting into sleep habits.
00:00:31
David Isaacs
better sleep routine, better sleep habits. That started ah a while ago for me. and I think Brian, you've kind of, well, everyone in general, but you also have some thoughts on your own difficulties with it
00:00:47
Big Dog
Yeah, for sure. snore a lot. My wife hates it. I don't know that it affects my overall sleep quality, but I think I have some bad habits in general that keep me awake or getting ah waking up in the middle of the night.
00:01:04
Big Dog
um So yeah, it definitely can relate to the struggle, man.
00:01:10
David Isaacs
Yeah, definitely.
Snoring and Sleep Apnea Solutions
00:01:11
David Isaacs
ah And if you are snoring, definitely good to have ah sleep study done. My mom had just gotten one done herself at home sleep study and actually came back that she doesn't have sleep apnea, which is good.
00:01:25
David Isaacs
but it also tests her on her back. So it's hard to say too, like, maybe she has it more when she's laying on her side or on her stomach, but I don't really know exactly how she sleeps most of the time.
00:01:40
David Isaacs
But I know for me, at least it's probably wouldn't be a bad idea get a sleep study done. She said she can hear me snoring sometimes. But depending on how they classify it, because you have to have like certain events, like ah obstructive sleep apnea events throughout a night, like over an hour for them to classify you as having sleep apnea or above a certain amount where they would recommend some sort of CPAP machine or something else.
00:02:10
David Isaacs
So it's hard, but might be worth it.
00:02:13
Big Dog
Yeah, i don't know the ah i don't know the specific requirements because I haven't taken one, but I do know that one of the factors that they do is the amount of times that you stop breathing during like that period.
00:02:26
Big Dog
um Like my father-in-law, for instance, had sleep apnea for most of his life. um In fact, he got a sleep machine back in like the early 90s or 80s maybe.
00:02:38
Big Dog
um kind of when it wasn't too much of a thing yet, but You know, obviously advances in modern science. he got tested and he had sleep apnea. I think they tested that he fell stopped breathing like 35 times a minute or something absurdly high.
00:02:56
Big Dog
maybe it was per hour. it was a really...
00:02:59
David Isaacs
Either way, bad.
00:02:59
Big Dog
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. So he would, you know, follow up his REM cycle, sleep, and just wake up tired. And not to mention just snoring like sawing logs. So...
00:03:14
Big Dog
and are you know, interrupting my, my mother-in-law or his partner, which is also not great. So just, uh, something you can't control, unfortunately, but you should definitely get looked
Sleep Health and Lifestyle Choices
00:03:24
Big Dog
at. So yeah, it is something that's on my agenda, but I know it's kind of a process that I'm not looking forward to to getting approved. Like you have to get a preauthorization here. It's a, it's a whole thing. So
00:03:38
David Isaacs
right all his stuff It it's
00:03:45
David Isaacs
compounding interest. If you have sleep apnea, if you have trouble sleeping, to more weight gain, leads to more caffeine intake, overeating, your higher cortisol levels. It is really the kind of basis, foundation for health and if you're not doing something well when you're unconscious, like obviously that's gonna translate to more difficulties when you're awake.
00:04:13
David Isaacs
So I know there's probably a a lot of people out there that have had, and know people with CPAP machines or have had sleep studies done. and I know at least one friend that has gone and gotten a CPAP machine.
00:04:27
David Isaacs
So I think his quality of life has improved, but sometimes it's not, the best a solution for people. And the only other solution sometimes is losing more weight.
00:04:40
David Isaacs
But I even know men that have more muscle, like having more chest muscle or neck muscle or whatever can also cause more obstruction during sleep.
Screen Time and Sleep Quality
00:04:52
David Isaacs
So it's always a crap shoot. And yeah, I don't really know if a CPAP machine is the best solution for everybody, but think it's as good as we've got right now. And we're dealing with all the issues with it.
00:05:06
David Isaacs
But I mean, if it helps 10%, if you're doing 10% better than you already were, then, you know, who's to say, but I think medically, they're always kind of looking at the, the benefits as opposed to ah side effects.
00:05:21
Big Dog
Yeah, a lot of... I know a lot of folks who have the actual CPAP machine, but also know people who have a mouth guard that moves the lower part of your jaw forward.
00:05:30
David Isaacs
Right.
00:05:32
Big Dog
That helps, too. The other thing that I know about it is I know there are people who are lot less taller than I am who need it. It's sometimes just how you're then than i am um who need it it's sometimes just like how you're You know, the makeup of like your jawline or your, you know, kind of how like your skull is made out. Sometimes it's just, you know, something that you really can't couldn't control with weight or anything like that anyway. So it really just all depends. But yeah, for sure. um
00:06:09
Big Dog
it's Sleep is important. I mean, like you said, cortisol levels rise. And so that makes you hungrier and so more stressed out.
00:06:14
David Isaacs
Thank you.
00:06:18
Big Dog
Getting sleep, especially seven to nine hours, is very important to, mean, even your mental health. i mean, that's something that we've hark about a lot on this podcast. You know, it's like if you're stressed like I kind of currently am, then you're not going to be able to sleep as well. And then, you know, the lack of sleep is going to make you more susceptible to being stressed out. So it's a fine, delicate balance that you definitely have to pay attention to.
00:06:46
David Isaacs
Right. And that's the yeah other issue with becoming an adult, too, is because of the compounding interest of these issues. as so As a child, you might have had some form of sleep apnea or it might not have been as bad as it is now, but with weight gain or added stress, lack of sleep, and all the other things that begin to add up.
00:07:11
David Isaacs
over the years because yeah i mean i am and do weigh quite a bit more than i did in high school some of that was just you know muscle development but a lot of it was increasing fat and yeah i wouldn't be surprised if i don't have some form of sleep apnea, but I do snore at night sometimes. And yeah, it can be difficult.
00:07:31
David Isaacs
But I think even with growing up, I used to stay up. If we're just talking about sleep health in general, but I used to stay up till, you know, two or 3am most nights playing Call of Duty during high school.
00:07:45
David Isaacs
And I would get up four or five hours later and get up and go to school. And A lot of times I had no issues, but as the years went on, did start developing some anxiety disorders, depressive disorders, going back and forth at doctors for them trying to figure out what exactly was wrong with me.
00:08:06
David Isaacs
And yeah, so having to get put on antidepressants and at that point Xanax before it became a little bit more a controlled substance, I guess, like they don't want give it out really because it is addictive and from having it, like, yeah, I mean, i I can understand why it's addictive, even at the lowest dose and how it helped me out.
00:08:27
David Isaacs
But it's kind of how it started growing up.
00:08:28
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:08:30
David Isaacs
And I enjoyed having, had four siblings. So that time at night when it's quieter and I don't have to worry or deal with or listen to or anybody else,
00:08:44
David Isaacs
worry about you know some argument starting or bunch yelling or whatever else it was like a that was the time of least probable shittiness to go on so that's just kind of how it started the entire process and yeah i had a hard time falling asleep and
00:08:48
Big Dog
yeah
00:08:58
Big Dog
yeah
00:09:05
David Isaacs
You know parents, especially with the health and everything else that had come out medically with sleep, nutrition and all those things, know, your parents can only really hold you down so much at that time they didn't really didn't have any idea about you know the effects of video games or smartphones or laptops or all the other ways that we could stay up later at night because they grew up with a ah tv in the family room and that was about it you know you couldn't really listen to the radio or something else like something that was just so stimulating that would keep you awake but
00:09:43
David Isaacs
going to cognitive of behavioral therapy earlier on in my life. It's kind of one of the things that they wanted me to work on, but I always reverted back into just trying to stay up later because it was either i didn't want to fall asleep because if I fell asleep in that school came sooner and I didn't like school that much.
00:10:03
David Isaacs
College was kind of the same deal. I didn't mind class, but it wasn't as cool as hanging out with friends or just playing video games or anything else. And now it's like, if I fall asleep earlier, then work comes faster.
00:10:20
David Isaacs
It's not like I work in a position that really requires me to have a lot of sleep to be able to do it. And if I enjoyed it more than maybe I would fall asleep, but just trying to evaluate these things and like, am I giving myself grace or if I just make excuses what,
00:10:36
David Isaacs
ah why um so yeah i i have made some contributions to it i think are you familiar with the concept of fin dom
00:10:49
Big Dog
I'm not.
00:10:50
David Isaacs
okay so quick rundown ah high level it's a man that gives his banking information or credit card information to a woman that is then dominating him financially by spending his money on clothes or dinners or freezing his card, like keeping him from being able to do things. It's like this weird, I guess not weird, weird in the sense of like, you know people don't know about it very often, but it is some sort of fetish type deal.
00:11:26
David Isaacs
So like a financial dominatrix, but My idea is just to have one for screen time, like somebody that controls how much TikTok I'm able to watch the screen time on my phone for these things, because I have instilled a downtime on my phone, time limits for TikTok each day.
00:11:48
David Isaacs
But with me having it's my iCloud account for me having access to it, then I can just overwrite it whenever I want. So Maybe not a ah screen DOM, as it were, but maybe some way to have somebody who has like master control over my screen time, so I can't just override it whenever I want to because I started getting in the habit of that.
00:12:18
Big Dog
All I'm imagining is with a choke ball and some chicken, some other, just like when you try to go for a blue screen, you know it just whips you on the ass while you're hanging upside down.
00:12:29
David Isaacs
Yeah, I mean, at this point, I'll take what I can get, you know, dealer's choice.
00:12:29
Big Dog
that's Pickles, pickles, pickles.
00:12:35
David Isaacs
But
00:12:38
David Isaacs
oh at least with the overriding stuff, at least it lets me know, like, how much time i was actually spending on it.
00:12:39
Big Dog
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:44
David Isaacs
But, yeah, now I've just gotten in the habit of overriding it. So, I mean, if I did have some sort of parent, I mean, i like, having to treat myself like an iPad kid,
00:12:56
David Isaacs
and having somebody limit the amount of screen time I can get in one day, but it's kind of gotten to that point because, know, the impulsivity that I have around just wanting to sit there and absorb this media, you know, get that quick hits of dopamine and it's tough.
00:12:56
Big Dog
yeah
00:13:13
David Isaacs
I'm trying to get rid of the ah dopamine hits, but,
00:13:19
Big Dog
Yeah, blue screen addiction is a real
Technology's Impact on Sleep
00:13:21
Big Dog
thing. And, you know, I know that they've done studies like kind of like what you were alluding to earlier where like, you know, and we were kids was you don't really have one TV in your living room and you know, kind of like put emphasis on family time. Right. So you'd always kind of like watch whatever after dinner or during dinner. And or you'd have to fight with it with your siblings or.
00:13:46
Big Dog
you know your parents for what playing video games or, you know, whatever the case is. So, um but kind of getting to my point of, they've done a lot of studies recently about um
00:14:01
Big Dog
blue light and how it affects your brain chemistry. mean, it just keeps you awake. i mean, I don't know the ah percentage or you know, any actual stats behind it, but um I think just in like the modern age compared to when we were kids, you know,
00:14:16
Big Dog
we weren't really, at least I wasn't, when I was in my teenage years, we had flip phones, and, you know, going on the internet was very expensive on your phone, so, um and then we also had cheaper internet rates, like, later at night, so, um you know, i i I was always go to bed early, ah still find myself to,
00:14:41
Big Dog
doing that now um but just my sweep quality is lot poorer than it was when i was a kid just tribute chalking it up to you know scrolling doom scrolling on the phone or know playing a video game like i stayed up till like 12 30 last night playing assassin's creed like luckily i work remote today but if i were to work have done that like on a day that i didn't it'd probably much worse scenario where i wouldn't be able to sleep in so um Definitely falling into just way poorer sleep habits as an adult.
00:15:16
Big Dog
Not that they were great to begin with when I was younger, but I felt like I was more rested. and for me specifically, i I'm sure that I do have some form of sleep apnea or you know something that causes me to stop breathing while I'm sleeping.
00:15:33
Big Dog
But I know that from personal experience, if i lose weight, then i don't snore and I get a better night's rest. So... I really just need to put forth the effort of losing weight because that goes a long way for better sleep.
00:15:50
Big Dog
Lower cortisone levels, less stress, better sleep. so you know Like I talked about earlier, it's just like that vicious cycle got to get out of, that hamster wheel that you keep running that you have to get out of. um and Like we always talk on this podcast, we're our own worst enemies. Our brains are our own worst enemies.
00:16:10
Big Dog
worst enemy so um i think i wish i could go back to when i was younger way didn't have maybe the time in front of the blue light but i just have to hold myself accountable i have to get that that fin dom uh for myself or something you know because my wife is equally as bad about strolling late night before you fall asleep too so both of our quality of our sleep is not great
00:16:40
David Isaacs
Yeah, maybe you
00:16:44
David Isaacs
maybe you set up your Apple ID to her phone and she sets it up to yours so that they're not able reset your password or redo your screen time limits or something. Because I do set my downtime from like 12 p.m. to 10 a.m.
00:17:02
David Isaacs
or 12 a.m. to 10 a.m. So like midnight's 10 a.m. And feel like it helps a little bit. I can ah can't override it whenever I want, but at least there's kind of that reminder in there.
00:17:16
David Isaacs
And there's like an extra step for me to have to put in to continue on with like more time on that certain app. So it's kind of helped a little bit. But yeah, i mean, my biggest issue is that I can just override it whenever I want.
00:17:31
David Isaacs
And there's no way to be able to stop me from doing that. So it's just tough. And i my my phone's in black and white, and I still find myself scrolling a lot of the times.
00:17:43
David Isaacs
And yeah, just kind of justifying it to try to take time away from my job where you know i don't like my job. I don't get paid enough. I'm not incentivized to do things. So it's like, you know, my way of fighting back to just not pay attention as much. But like I said, I mean, it's not good. I'm trying to, you know, re rewire my brain a little bit to at least do some things at my job or take initiative on some things. Like I'm fine helping out my coworkers, but
00:18:17
David Isaacs
know, management is looking for something, i'm like, no, I don't know anything about that. I don't work.
00:18:27
Big Dog
Yeah, don't...
00:18:27
David Isaacs
and I don't do that. ah Like.
00:18:30
Big Dog
You're gonna have to give that to somebody else. I already got enough to work on right now.
00:18:33
David Isaacs
Right. And really, I'd spend six hours just dicking around. But yeah, for any kids, any kids listening, your screen time is really dictated by the family TV and your you know, dad or whoever would be falling asleep watching NASCAR. He tried to turn the channel and he wakes up right away like, I was watching that.
00:18:55
Big Dog
yeah, yeah, was...
00:18:56
David Isaacs
And then he'd have to turn it back.
00:18:58
Big Dog
Dad, what was happening? A left turn. Alright.
00:19:01
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:19:02
Big Dog
Good guess.
00:19:02
David Isaacs
And, you know, they it didn't matter that they had the only other TV in the house was in their room or your parents' room.
00:19:08
Big Dog
Right.
00:19:09
David Isaacs
it was They wanted to watch on the big TV and instead everyone else had to deal with them watching NASCAR, which... don't want to put down anyone that watches NASCAR, but as a child, I i think it's very hard to convince them that anything and that's happening in NASCAR is very exciting.
00:19:27
David Isaacs
oh
00:19:28
Big Dog
Yeah, that's that's fair. um yeah and then it's like whenever you were a kid and wanted to pitch getting a TV in your room, they'd always have like, just so happen to have like the the Venn diagram and it always so happened to be though the no would always outweigh the yes for reasons to get a TV in you as the child's room. you know It's like, oh, well, you'll just hang out there all all the time. You'll, you know, your brain's gonna rot or What was the other one?
00:19:58
Big Dog
Oh, we can't afford that. Or trying to get cable. God, that was like pulling teeth.
00:20:04
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:20:05
Big Dog
I mean, I can't speak to actual cable costs back then, but I know that nowadays it's like essentially
Evolution of Media Consumption
00:20:12
Big Dog
free. i mean, to get, you know, up to five devices or more for, you know, like Fubo, YouTube TV, Sling, all those internet TVs. So,
00:20:26
Big Dog
But, you know, obviously back then you had to run cable or whatever the alternative was. So can't really say that they weren't lying. But, you know, ah they were really doing me a favor in the end because I'm watching more TV and playing more video games now than I think I did when I was a kid because I had to share screen time with my brother and sister.
00:20:47
Big Dog
so
00:20:49
David Isaacs
Right. i did have a I did have a TV growing up, but just the basic antenna. And it had a VCR attached to it.
00:20:56
Big Dog
Right.
00:20:58
David Isaacs
So eventually got to a point where we weren't buying VHS anymore. We were buying DVDs. So I really had no incentive on staying up late at night because there was nothing that was going to watch on the antenna that I wanted to watch because it was all adult channels.
00:21:14
Big Dog
bre
00:21:17
David Isaacs
except Saturday morning cartoons that you could get with an antenna. So that was kind of an incentive to wake up early on Saturdays. So you wanted to fall asleep early on Fridays to be able to do it. But, Yeah, if I can switch now to only having an antenna TV and the only things that I want to watch are somewhere between the hours of 5 p.m. to 9 p.m.
00:21:39
David Isaacs
or early in the morning on the weekends, that would be great. But I don't think it's going to get to that point. But it's gotten, yeah it's gotten so bad of all these companies that are just trying to steal as much of your time as they possibly can, because that is their business model. Facebook makes money by being able to sell ads and wants to keep you engaged in the app for as long as possible. And they've gotten however many years now that they've been around 20 years of data to create a way to keep you in the app and keep you interested first however long is they can.
00:22:17
Big Dog
Yeah, it's scary to think that Facebook is well over 20 years old now. like I still feel like my badge of honor of creating an account in 2006, coming up on 20 years of having one social media app, let alone the idea of social media being over 20 years old is frightening. ah you know I know ah Zuckerberg became a billionaire at 28, so that would make him almost, think, in his 40s now.
00:22:49
Big Dog
God, he looks like such a douche now, too. He's like in the MMA, like every other dorky tech person. Gotta do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Sleep Routines and Mindfulness
00:22:59
Big Dog
Anyway,
00:23:00
Big Dog
ah ah back to my point. Yeah, it's ah
00:23:06
Big Dog
especially with social media, you know, Instagram reels, you know, I scroll through those endlessly, sharing those at sometimes three o'clock in the morning. Like the other problem that I have with a poor sleep quality is like, I'll be drinking, you know, at nine o'clock at night and just railing back water when i really don't need it. I really need to stop drinking water at like six o'clock.
00:23:35
Big Dog
So I don't, you know, have to get up three or four times to go to the bathroom. Um, some days are harder than others. I feel like if I'm like super tired, like I'm just chugging, coffee and I'm trying to balance out the caffeine levels with water so it feels like it's just like drinking liquids all day and you know not only that but I'm putting like my bladder in overtime so fuck when I really say this stuff out loud it sucks like I feel like I'm just living my life but when you really just slow down to kind of dissect everything especially when you speak it out loud sucks like
00:24:13
Big Dog
You know, you kind of feel like you've fucked everything up at, or fucked that point in your life up, you know. Yeah.
00:24:22
David Isaacs
Oh, yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of the point of it, right? And sometimes I spiral and kind of get overwhelmed with certain things that I want to work on.
00:24:34
David Isaacs
And started taking first steps on certain things, but it's like every day might be a little bit different, but, you know, taking things like one step at a time. So there's a lot of things that I want to correct that I've been doing like one step at a time.
00:24:50
David Isaacs
So with Eating too often. Okay, go grocery shop once a week and work on getting that food in me. If it's even frozen food that's not as healthy as some of the other things that I've bought, well, at least I'm not eating out or anything.
00:25:09
David Isaacs
Doing things with exercise, standing desk, walking pad. which you're now on too. So there's another like tiny chisel into a different area that you want to be able to correct upon.
00:25:18
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:25:24
David Isaacs
And yeah, I think the the basis for why we get on and talk about these things is try to keep ourselves accountable. for what's happening, trying to show kind of the reality of what goes into trying to make these changes. Because first thing is acceptance, right?
00:25:43
David Isaacs
Acceptance that you have a problem or they're maybe not a problem, but something that a bad habit that you have that you don't exactly like. And the only way to be able to do something about it is to start chiseling away at it, finding something that works.
00:26:00
David Isaacs
So even today, ah i didn't walk as many steps as I wanted to. told myself I was going to go grocery shopping, and I didn't do that. But I did manage to meditate today for...
00:26:13
David Isaacs
a few minutes and felt pretty good because of it. That might have been stemmed from the fact my feet were real cold because I had a ton of caffeine today and not enough water and I was trying to settle myself down so get my blood flow going in a little bit more, but you know, who's to say who's to say.
00:26:31
Big Dog
Right.
00:26:31
David Isaacs
so yeah, it's, you know all in the balance and just living in the moment, being present is teaching me a lot about these things and sleep, especially realizing it helps a lot with like impulsivity.
00:26:46
David Isaacs
It's kind of going down the rabbit hole of thinking I have ADHD or something similar ADHD, maybe some OCD, a little bit of these things and trying to find out what ways that to try to be able to manage it.
00:27:02
David Isaacs
But even with medication, you're still recommended like a psychiatrist, the treatment plan. and working on these habits to try to keep these issues under control. And lack of sleep does increase the amount of impulsivity you have to be doing things like just without really thinking about them or negative consequences of them.
00:27:24
David Isaacs
Albeit they might be small. It's not like we were teenagers and, you know, making these mistakes that would have a big impact if things went wrong. But it's, yeah, it's just another step in the...
00:27:38
David Isaacs
in the process of trying to get better. so
00:27:42
Big Dog
Yeah, I get that. um Yeah, and i mean it's like with the cost of you know goods and services right now um just going through the roof, like food costs are going up. So it's like you know you seek alternatives to like chicken the cost of like chicken and eggs and beef right like a steak ah I think like a chuck roast is like $6.99 a pound, like pretty much every local grocery store that I know of.
00:28:15
Big Dog
Like a couple of years ago, that was $2.99 or maybe $3.99 a pound, depending. But, you know, it's like you seek alternatives and it's like the cost of pork hasn't oddly gone up or at least not increased. So like I've been eating a lot more like bacon and pork roasts.
00:28:35
Big Dog
I mean, it's not like I'm like eating this stuff every day, but you know, I just feel like when I eat pork, I just feel super bloated.
00:28:36
David Isaacs
Right.
00:28:42
Big Dog
So, you know, that's causing me to like have stomach issues. Um, because like I can't afford to eat, you know, not that I really could before I can't eat before to eat like a $7 a pound fucking steak every day. Right. Like,
00:29:00
David Isaacs
right
00:29:01
Big Dog
chicken i mean the The price of chicken has come down considerably, which is ironic because their offspring has gone through the roof. so you know We're eating less.
00:29:13
Big Dog
and That's the other thing too. is like i don't know if you saw on the news, um but there's a local bakery that is begging and pleading with the state of Michigan to Intervene somehow on the the cost of these prices because they go through literally 10,000 eggs a week and you know, it's right around 40 cents an egg.
00:29:37
David Isaacs
Right.
00:29:39
Big Dog
I think it's the cost average cost. Um, you know, cause I average dozens like four 55 bucks now. So if they're going through 10,000 eggs, that's, you know, whatever 120 something ridiculous.
00:29:56
Big Dog
and they're begging and pleading because like there's costs are going through the roof and their sales are dipping because they have to pass like the sale onto the consumer. So, you know, and know I'm kind of spithering right now thinking about all this, but this is all kind of just an example of keeping your mentals straight. So, you know, it balances out with your sleep.
00:30:20
Big Dog
um But like, sleep is probably easier part because you just have to try and sleep it's not really something you can control but like you know your your gut health and your your uh your food intake is all related to your sleep and it's all like i said it's all cyclical so all this is kind of just affecting that sleep one way or another, whether it's stress or thinking about it or overeating or whatever
Partner Support in Sleep Health
00:30:50
Big Dog
the case is. but this is all stuff that you kind of have to consider, um, and take one step at a time to kind of diffuse like, and it's hard. you're not going to be able to to do all this stuff in one sitting. So it's tough.
00:31:06
Big Dog
Like i kind of just came to the realization on this self-help podcast that we hark on.
00:31:13
David Isaacs
No, it's, you would imagine sleep would be an easy thing to do, but you have to commit yourself to it. There's always going to be variables that affect your ability to be able to fall asleep at a good enough time.
00:31:24
David Isaacs
You had too much caffeine that day, or, you know, you're up, you don't really know why you can't fall asleep. So you don't want to lay in bed and toss and turn for however long, you Your partner's staying up later.
00:31:36
David Isaacs
So with any type of change like that, you have to get your partner on board and developing good sleep habits or, you know, sleep routine. At a certain time, you brush your teeth, you take your medication, you you know, go to the bathroom or set your clothes out for work or whatever the next day.
00:31:55
David Isaacs
for me at least, I have my sleep supplements and also my melatonin. So some nights I'll take L-theanine, apigenin, magnesium threonate, or magnesium glycinate, along with melatonin, you know, sometimes three or four hours before bed.
00:32:15
David Isaacs
And usually I get into bed, figure out like a time. This is what I'm trying to do now. Obviously it doesn't work all the time, but
00:32:23
Big Dog
Right.
00:32:23
David Isaacs
Usually on 1030 or 11 o'clock, the only thing I want to do is read. But sometimes you're more tired that day, so you don't have as much effort. you You don't want to read because reading is harder than just watching videos. So I'm overly tired. I might just watch a show or I might just scroll on my phone or do something like that. So, yeah, it is hard.
00:32:44
David Isaacs
It is hard every day to have the discipline and the balance to be like, I am falling asleep at this time. i am getting up at this time. which might be easier for work because you have to be up at that time. But when the weekend rolls around, might not be as simple.
00:33:00
David Isaacs
Or you might go out a date night or go see a movie on Friday night. Or, you know, there's a higher chance you're going to be out later on Friday and Saturday than there is during the week. So how do you compensate for that?
00:33:11
David Isaacs
Is it better to still wake up at the same time and just deal with being tired all day? So that way Sunday comes along and you're not falling asleep one or two hours later than you normally would.
00:33:22
David Isaacs
Or you get into a good routine throughout the week, know, the weekend comes around and you have stuff around the house to do that interrupts your routine you know how do you stick with it how do you keep on it but at the end of the day with the discipline that's surrounding it and that what it it needs to be for you to be able to do that it's tough because who's to say i'm in bed at 10 30 i'm asleep by 11 30 it doesn't always work like that i think it's okay that it doesn't but
00:33:52
David Isaacs
At the same time, it is one of the harder things to to do. It comes down to mental state, what you have to do the next day and whether or not to journal or write down things that you want to accomplish the next day, doing meditation, reading, breathing techniques.
00:34:09
David Isaacs
You know, it's a mixed bag of stuff that you can do. But some nights if I'm overstimulated, I can't put myself down.
00:34:19
Big Dog
Yeah, exactly. i you know that's not necessarily with the reading, but I do find myself when I'm playing a video game, even if I get to the objective that I want to do, like if I want to like you know unlock this area or you know attack this but with this boss or do these side quests, sometimes I just like get addicted to the actual game itself and like not want to put it down, even though I'm like accomplished even more than I thought I would.
00:34:44
Big Dog
um i'm you know i just don't want to put the controller down And that's the same thing with like drinking water at nine o'clock at night.
00:34:55
Big Dog
You know, it's like I'm hydrating myself, but all I'm really doing is just borrowing it and having to repay it back at three o'clock in the morning.
00:35:06
David Isaacs
Yeah, you you might want to get that checked out too, because I don't think that's normal.
00:35:12
Big Dog
I, I've, I will. Yeah. It's, uh, I don't think it's a, actual like internal issue going on i just think that i just consumed way too much water because i do find myself going to the bathroom a lot especially during the day when i work in office um but see that's the thing too is like i work from home so like i'm kind of out of routine already um i didn't sleep that great last night because i was up late playing video games so i'm kind of already out of my routine like i'm not consistent with it um
00:35:46
David Isaacs
Right.
00:35:46
Big Dog
As soon as I... I feel like I go back in office and I'm going to drink more water and then I'll be fine for the rest of the night and I don't have to drink late. So... Or... You know... Let me rephrase that.
00:35:58
Big Dog
i dont I feel like I don't have have to drink because I feel dehydrated. So... You know... It's 100% my own brain working against me. But... Yeah. i mean But no. i you know It's one one other thing that i have to see the doctor for anyway. So...
00:36:17
David Isaacs
Well, yeah, it might it might be a leftover from your drinking habits, right? Then you switch to like soda or like diet soda for a while. ah You're like drinking a ton of that.
00:36:29
David Isaacs
And now it's down to water, which is good. I mean, it's just water. Like it's going to take a lot to drown you from the inside.
00:36:39
Big Dog
Right.
00:36:39
David Isaacs
But yeah.
00:36:41
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, when I was drinking, gosh, would drink, you know, half of a bottle of half of a fifth in a night, some nights, and I feel like I was not going to the bathroom nearly as much.
00:36:54
Big Dog
um But on the flip side of that, it's, you know, because your liver is going to process to detoxify your body of the alcohol, so know, I didn't necessarily find myself going to the bathroom more during the day following, but Um, I think I definitely have greater volume now what I did, but I'm also consuming more.
00:37:19
Big Dog
ah so yeah, I mean, it's definitely kind of like a addict type thing, kind of like to, in my brain that I'm, you know, balancing that for not drinking alcohol for almost 11 months now.
00:37:34
David Isaacs
Yeah, congrats on that. It's awesome.
00:37:36
Big Dog
Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. It's, uh, It's hard at first, but now it's kind of just become my routine.
Hydration and Lifestyle Metaphors
00:37:42
Big Dog
Like, um, I actually just sold a couple of expensive bottles to a buddy of mine.
00:37:48
Big Dog
um you know, so I'm making money on my former addiction, but, um, I, you know, I just gotta to get them out of here. I gotta to get the temptation out, but I also want to be able to make money on it. So, um,
00:38:05
David Isaacs
Right.
00:38:08
David Isaacs
Yeah, maybe ah and like one of those water jugs with like the time of day stamped on them.
00:38:08
Big Dog
but yeah,
00:38:16
David Isaacs
Maybe that would help and give you like a little reminder as to how much water you need throughout the day. Because it seems like there're you're on the opposite side.
00:38:23
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:38:25
David Isaacs
I think a lot of people don't get enough water throughout the day, so they need something to help them supplement to get them to drink throughout the day and you know, in certain intervals. So like each hour, you should be drinking this much water.
00:38:41
David Isaacs
Whereas I think I will chug a bunch of water, then not drink any and then chug a bunch of it like a few hours later. But yeah, maybe that would help kind of break things up for you a little bit, because you're probably like finishing the jug before you're done at the office. And maybe that would give you a just a better idea as to how much volume you're consuming.
00:39:03
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, i have want to say 20-ounce... It's like 18 or 20-ounce water bottle that I fill up. Like, probably every other hour. So, i mean, that's you know at least 4 or 5.
00:39:21
Big Dog
that's probably anywhere between 100 and 120 ounces water, which twice the...
00:39:27
Big Dog
you know twice the
00:39:31
Big Dog
almost twice the, you know, daily recommendation, i think, because I think it's like 60 or 64 ounces, what you're supposed to consume for the average person. So I'm far above that.
00:39:43
Big Dog
And i kind of do it in such a short time period. I think my body just hasn't had time to kind of catch up from all that. So that's why I spend, you know, the next 10 or 15, sorry, next couple hours just pissing my my brains out.
00:39:58
David Isaacs
the Yeah, it could have something to do with electrolytes too. There's like mineral drops that I used to buy that you can get because with coffee as a diuretic and how much water you're drinking, there could be less electrolytes in your system or i think the electrolytes could help to retain some of the water i guess and pull it into your cells instead of just you know it goes in and it comes out but yeah it's always hard to tell because if you're just constantly chugging water all the time like your urine shouldn't be clear it should have like a little tinge of yellowness to it but if you're you know
00:40:27
Big Dog
Yeah. right
00:40:39
David Isaacs
actively thirsty a lot of the times too like maybe that is some something that's going on that's making you feel that way but who's to say really i you know water drinking habits it's it's not bad what you have right now but from what you're uh what you're explaining with having to get up and
00:40:51
Big Dog
yeah
00:41:03
David Isaacs
throughout the middle of the night, however many times and with the coffee that you drink and adding into it. So it's like good, you're replacing the the water that the coffee is making you eject from your system for being a diuretic.
00:41:16
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:41:18
David Isaacs
But yeah, I think it could be like electrolytes or maybe just like over drinking or something, but it's not a bad habit to have with
00:41:19
Big Dog
Right.
00:41:27
David Isaacs
drinking too much water because i know we need a lot to flush out all the crap we have we put in our system every day
00:41:34
Big Dog
Yeah. um And it really doesn't even help kind of drive the hunger down either. Like, i mean, I'm not like, i don't say I'm not like hungry when I drink drink a lot of water but it you know a i'm still kind of like an overeater at certain meals and i just won't eat the rest of the day which is not also healthy so maybe that has something to do with it i don't know trying to balance my former well it's currently addicted brain so one more thing i gotta to figure out
00:42:13
David Isaacs
Yeah. Well, it's tough, right? With being present and being aware of these things, you begin to notice and you start to identify a lot of stuff that you wish you could change.
00:42:24
David Isaacs
And ignorance is bliss, I think is probably the truest statement I've ever heard. Because if I could just walk through life thinking that I'm not doing anything wrong. There's no issues that I'm doing and never have to work on some of these things. And yeah, I'd probably be a lot happier, but just the realization and trying to look and keep tabs on where you're at and where you're headed.
00:42:45
David Isaacs
Yeah. It is kind of discouraging sometimes, but yeah just focus on the things that you can control. I think one of the things that you can't control is how fast it's going to be until some of these things are resolved or maybe eventually kind of come to terms with some things that you don't, that are hard for you to change and that you don't really have an issue with having to change right now.
00:43:10
David Isaacs
You know, if you were, if you could fix, if I told you you could fix
00:43:15
David Isaacs
60% of the stuff that you want to fix right now and the other 40% you're just going to have to live with. I think most people would take that deal.
00:43:23
Big Dog
Oh yeah. A hundred percent.
00:43:27
David Isaacs
yeah, it's just, uh, it's just life, I guess.
00:43:28
Big Dog
Yep.
00:43:31
David Isaacs
But with the, the chicken stuff and the food prices and everything I was looking at, getting a worm bin for like composting and still looking at garden plants to buy. And also there's stuff i was looking at a Fuji apple tree yesterday you can get for like 40 bucks and they end up being like eight to 10 feet tall, eight to 10 feet wide, but it takes about three to five years to bear fruit.
00:43:58
David Isaacs
so
00:43:58
Big Dog
Hmm.
00:43:59
David Isaacs
that's not the greatest. Um, but yeah, just like trying to get past like this ultra consumerism stuff. Like we've gotten so accustomed to having grocery store stock with whatever food that you actually wanted, the streaming services and music streaming services and everything else to just have all the entertainment that you want.
00:44:21
David Isaacs
But I think too, even with like these iPad kids or the newer generations growing up with having, know, so much stimulation early on in development and everything. It's like trying to revert back and doing things and sometimes that you're bored or things that you don't really want to do. It's a lot tougher when the alternative is something that's going to give you a huge dump of dopamine that you can just pull out of your pocket and start doom scrolling on anything.
00:44:50
David Isaacs
so the screen limits and the down times and all that and continuing to try to work on. But yeah, it's going to take some time. The meditation thing is another avenue that I'd like to check.
00:45:04
David Isaacs
So I'll probably end up doing is... setting a block on everything on my phone, my iPad for 15 minutes each day.
00:45:18
David Isaacs
So I can't access anything and just do meditation, which it would be nice to have some sort of app that you could set those things up to where like meditation is the only app that you can access.
00:45:32
David Isaacs
because eventually I'm going to work towards having Kindle being the only app that I can access on my phone or on my iPad past, say, 10.30 PM.
00:45:43
David Isaacs
And I think that would help at least a bit with a reminder. But like I said, if there was some way that
00:45:53
David Isaacs
I couldn't change the settings or I couldn't override the time limits on these things, that I think I would be doing a lot better So I don't know, maybe, maybe that's her next company. You pay us to set screen limits on your stuff. And if you want to change anything, it's like a hundred bucks.
00:46:12
Big Dog
Yeah. Yeah, I mean... That's actually a great idea. um so I don't know if you would have to have a i mean
00:46:21
David Isaacs
Yeah. That's the screen dom thing, dude. We just get some, uh, we get some hot ladies, some hot men. Be like, Oh, you sure you want to watch Tik TOK? You little piggy. Huh?
00:46:33
Big Dog
you old You little bastard, you.
00:46:34
David Isaacs
You can sign up for like, ah yeah, some negative talk or like some positive talk. You're like, no, you don't need that. Come on. You don't want that. If you don't need that hit of dopamine, you're fine. Otherwise you'd be like, yeah, that's all you want to do. haw You want to sit on your phone. You want to doom scroll all day. I know you got dirty laundry.
00:46:55
David Isaacs
and know you got groceries you're supposed to go pick up or something like that. Who knows?
00:47:01
Big Dog
Yeah, you don't want to watch this 10th reel of Airplanes with Max that you've watched in the last, like, if replayed, like, 12 times. You don't want to watch that. You don't want watch ah Canadian Life in Japan for, you know, 100th time on Instagram. no you're a dirty little whore. You don't need that.
00:47:22
David Isaacs
Yeah, you sign up for impersonations or any type of talk that you want to be happening to you. But yeah, I think if there is a way to give somebody access just to make changes on your behest for screen time limits or whatever, I think that would be good.
00:47:41
David Isaacs
However, I don't think for security purposes, I don't think it's a good idea.
00:47:48
Big Dog
Yeah, and if you just wanted to like start a software company that did that, I'm sure there would be some sort of security you know ah agreements that you'd have to like make with Apple or Android um you know if you didn't want to do like the in-person version of our said company. But think either way, i think it's it's a great startup. We should yeah try and get some seed funding for that.
00:48:15
David Isaacs
I thought about it too, where you just have it set up to say your Kroger app or your Costco app or something, and you would have a schedule to say you're supposed to go grocery shopping right now.
00:48:27
David Isaacs
and your phone would basically turn itself off until it got a notification from say Kroger or the Costco app that you have made a purchase. And then it would turn itself back on again.
00:48:40
Big Dog
Right. That's a good idea. which no one steal this from us. I've got a few more minutes. in me I'm starting to kind of get ah sleepy. need to work on my... take my her own advice. But yeah, let's go.
00:48:57
David Isaacs
Yeah. No, definitely should. You're starting to feel sleepy. Yeah, that's kind of where we're getting at. Because, I mean, it's 930.
00:49:03
Big Dog
right.
00:49:04
David Isaacs
When do you usually go to sleep?
00:49:07
Big Dog
ah since the Assassin's Creed came out like 11 or later but normally like 10 or 10.30
00:49:15
David Isaacs
Yeah, what's up, man?
00:49:19
David Isaacs
You've been wanting to... start getting back up at 5am. Some days I've been doing that, not on purpose, but with the trying to wean myself off nicotine, my body is like, Nope, it's time for you to get up. And it's time for you to go get some nicotine, because that's what we want.
00:49:37
David Isaacs
And no, you're not going back to sleep. So
00:49:42
David Isaacs
Fuck you, brain. um As much as it were. Just always working against me. But yeah, ah some of the other things with sleep that I've been doing is earplugs.
00:49:58
David Isaacs
So there's specific type of ear earbuds that only block out sound from a certain decibel level. So might be um might be helpful for your wife.
00:50:13
David Isaacs
and times where you're snoring and waking her up or whatever. Also a sleep mask that I've gotten. It has like a little crimp thing to put over your nose you can't see through anything.
00:50:26
David Isaacs
And also a wedge pillow, which is supposed to help with sleep apnea and also acid reflux that I have. So those have been kind of the three things that mechanically I've been using to help with sleep. i also have a bite guard that i'm supposed to be using because I cry my teeth in my sleep. And I have yet to go to the dentist because I know they're going to yell at me.
00:50:49
Big Dog
Yeah, I don't i don't like going to the dentist for that very reason, but the last few visits have actually been pretty good. so But, yeah, ah my my mom, who's actually like, I don't know, 95 pounds or something, she's super skinny.
00:51:08
Big Dog
She still snores, but she actually got one of those mouth guards, and it helps her out a lot, too, so that might be something I consider. I just got to really put time and effort into figuring out what exactly is, you know, wrong with my sleep pattern.
00:51:27
Big Dog
Um, you know, being in the moment, uh, or trying to be a, trying to put the day together. My wife does use the sleep app. Um, that like records her sleeping.
00:51:38
Big Dog
So that might be something I could do in the meantime while I get everything else in line as far as whether I need a CPAP mouth guard or lose weight, you know, or all of the above.
00:51:53
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:51:55
David Isaacs
and It's always good to try to look at those things. I think with see the wearables, I don't know if they're as accurate. I know they continue to do studies like pairing and a lot of the times they're just not as accurate, but I'm sure the technology will continue to get better or maybe not.
00:52:15
David Isaacs
you know Capitalism as it is, if people are buying it, then they don't have to make it any better, but I imagine because know there's always a war with Apple against the apps that they
Tech Policies and Social Media Effects
00:52:26
David Isaacs
have.
00:52:26
David Isaacs
They do charge their apps inordinate amounts of money for subscriptions and stuff that people use. But at the same time, they could develop something that
00:52:35
Big Dog
Yeah, and...
00:52:39
David Isaacs
integrates with your other apps, say like your Planet Fitness app that won't let you on your phone until you check in at the desk at Planet Fitness or after you've gone to Kroger or integrates with your smart washing machine that knows that you just put a load of laundry in the washing machine and then will turn itself off when the load in the washing machine is done and then will turn itself off when the load in the dryer is done.
00:53:07
David Isaacs
so It's like, it can definitely be better, but know, the technology has really made it so that they want to keep you engaged on your phone as much as humanly possible. So it's like you, you're literally working against your mind, working against your phone, working against everything.
00:53:34
Big Dog
Yeah, ah it's super interesting. and i guess I didn't realize that Apple charges, know, those developers or whatever, development companies, lot of, a large percentage to post on their, you know, and the Apple, or the App Store, which is ah interesting only because know, I read that it's actually kind of fairly tough to get on to the iOS app.
00:54:00
Big Dog
um like App Store because they have to like, they're really tested and has to meet a certain criteria just to get on that. Only be charged, you know, whatever, 40% of their revenue from said platform. So that's funny.
00:54:18
Big Dog
I think a lot of, especially niche apps, I think are very helpful for people in trying to better their lives. So I just wonder how that would happen or how that would work with a lot bunch of free apps.
00:54:31
Big Dog
curious about that.
00:54:33
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know how. it would it would probably just be something that Apple would have to develop themselves. Because even if we were to develop something like that, but say can...
00:54:46
David Isaacs
um interfere with other apps on your phone, which I doubt would be able to happen because even Apple like allowing you the option for the app not to track you know your data across apps, which I think they do anyways because what the fuck does mean me asking them not to do it is going to change anything, but in certain states I think they're not allowed to, like in California, say,
00:55:05
Big Dog
Right.
00:55:11
David Isaacs
but for an app to get developed. And if it gets big enough, then Apple's just going to put something in house and sell it as a service on their next phone release, or they would just buy us out to use it. But it's not like the the technology is it's hard to like understand or get a grip on.
00:55:37
David Isaacs
It's just, is it beneficial for them to have it?
00:55:37
Big Dog
Right.
00:55:40
David Isaacs
And they've probably, thought about it before and decided against it for reasons related to making sure people stay on their phone longer.
00:55:51
Big Dog
Oh, yeah, that's 100% what it is. It's like what Facebook is doing. That's why they have Facebook. You know, they have Instagram. They have their own version of Twitter. like They want to keep you in that family of companies no matter what. Consuming content, tracking all that, and then selling it. so It's a cycle and just like everything else in life.
00:56:12
David Isaacs
Yeah. and I do. I do think like, sometimes I question myself, am i becoming like my parents with thinking like, oh, music can nowadays sucks or, you know, think back in my day.
00:56:27
David Isaacs
or whatever, but I think, yeah, it is quintessentially different with the introduction to the internet. Not that I think like music is worse than it was back then, because i I'm still interested in like new acts and new music and going to the concerts and everything, and some of the bands that I used to follow are still putting out music that's pretty good, but I think in general, yeah, things were better when not everything was a fucking subscription service.
00:56:56
David Isaacs
that the only thing that people did was sit on their phones or try to take Instagram pictures. So people knew that they were out and they were doing stuff and that they were interesting or you know, just spending so much time on their phones, spending so much money on other things. And yeah, just sitting there like, that's all it is. It's like, you know, a fucking popularity contest and it sucks.
00:57:23
David Isaacs
You know, gone are the days so you just get together in a garage and, listen to an album and hang out or meet up and ride bikes or go camping or on a trip or fishing or things like that. It's like most people just want to sit on their phones or sit and play video games, which I like doing those things. But, know, there's not really many outdoor activity plans or, you know, just random get togethers on any given day. Everything has to be like some,
00:57:55
David Isaacs
Big fucking event. Yeah, it sucks.
00:57:59
Big Dog
yeah yeah there has to be some sort of technology involved in a lot of these freaking parties like there's never a shortage of qr code to like enter some contest like a cookie decorating party right like before it was just you vote and throw your your whatever who you voted for into a jar and it's randomly selected like as far as we've come so far with like technology, but like, I just feel like as a society in general and like for our overall health, like it makes us a lot worse.
00:58:34
Big Dog
And like, I know one of our objectives that we both for this podcast was to kind of get off technology less, you know, be like our boomer parents or cave people were, you know, sitting around campfires and looking up at the stars and finger painting in caverns. So Maybe not quite that bad, but you know what mean. We're trying to regress back on the social media because
00:59:02
Big Dog
you know, to reference it back to the point of this episode, being on your phone being in front of a screen all day is just so bad for your sight. Like, I know that the amount of times that I've spent in front of TV and or computer screen has made my vision worse.
00:59:22
Big Dog
Like, when I was when I started our bootcamp in 2022, like I wasn't wearing glasses regularly. I would wear them on occasion, but I think my eyes have just kind of gotten worn down by blue light that, or maybe it's just with age, but i guess I'd more attribute it to blue light because my eyes are quote unquote tired more often. It makes me feel sleepy. So it doesn't help that I've wanted to play this Assassin's Creed game forever. And it came around right at,
00:59:53
Big Dog
on my birthday um but this is the first video game regularly that i played in over six months so i guess i'm kind of enjoying this as like a treat so to speak but once i'm probably done with this or beat this game and you know maybe one dlc or whatever comes out maybe i'll pick it up a little bit more but i kind of just find myself being more having like more, a more addictive behavior.
01:00:18
Big Dog
um and maybe because coincidentally I'm staying up later, so I'm drinking more. um maybe that's what goes hand in hand kind of thinking about it now. So and know that I wanted to play video games. I think I talked about this on last episode or episode before, what I want to improve my eye hand coordination. I wanted to improve my problem solving. And I feel like I'm doing that, but kind of also at the risk of getting back into addictive behaviors.
01:00:45
Big Dog
So, I'm aware of it and I'm you know trying to keep that balance. But you know sometimes there's just a boss that I want to kill.
01:00:53
David Isaacs
Yeah.
01:00:54
Big Dog
Figuratively, not literally.
01:00:56
David Isaacs
Right. but I think it comes down to timing, too, because if you're you know spending time with your family and up until a certain time at night, And then with doing this podcast, like when you get off to do something else, or you might not start playing video games until nine o'clock and you get in a good flow state and you want to get past a certain something and where you keep dying and kind want to retry or do better at a specific level or mission that you have.
01:01:25
David Isaacs
So yeah, that is easier to let time slip away from you like that. So I think that's more about, yeah, just the context of the game coming out and the time that you're playing it.
01:01:36
David Isaacs
So even me, would go to the gym around 8.30 most days just because there'd be less people in the gym and I can get things done quicker. But with trying to get to bed earlier, i think my goal is to...
01:01:52
David Isaacs
be waking up around 5 30 a.m 6 a.m and starting to go to the gym around those times especially now when the sun's going be up you know as i'm riding into the gym or whatnot and get that morning sunlight in my eyes and start my circadian rhythm and then with the coffee or whatever else that i can get after the gym and kind of keep me there for a while. And
Exercise and Sleep Schedule
01:02:20
David Isaacs
yeah, just try to extend out through that because yeah, there are pretty big correlational studies with people that fall asleep post 10 PM and their overall health in general.
01:02:32
David Isaacs
So trying to get back onto a better sleep schedule by that regard. But to, to your point too, play video games with people on discord and A lot of the people that are on every night are on the West Coast, so they're not on until 8 or 9 p.m., and they'll be on until 1 to 2 my time.
01:02:52
David Isaacs
So if I want to, I'm kind of enabled into playing video games late on in the night.
01:02:52
Big Dog
Right.
01:02:58
David Isaacs
And i' kind of gotten away from that, but some nights it's harder than others. You know, if I was to have taken a nap during lunch or... maybe gotten more sleep like the night before. So I have an extra amount of sleep, had too much caffeine or, you know, whatever it is.
01:03:14
David Isaacs
So it's really hard to really try to balance these things. And i think the other part of being present is you know, being coming in and out and sometimes being present to, you know, currently where you're at in terms of your energy envelope and,
01:03:29
David Isaacs
what you're going have to deal with at night. you know, if I'm going have to really take my sleep supplements or focus on more like breathing techniques as I'm reading to try to get to a state of calmness, to be able to fall asleep or what have you. So, yeah, I mean, it's just another thing to work on, another thing to think about, but it doesn't exactly mean it's something relevant that we need to take care of right now.
01:03:56
David Isaacs
But as the interest continues to add, you know, it's just Imagining the late, like late age care on things. And it's like, well, if we don't fix it now, 20, 30, 40 years down the line, you know, we're staring at the edge of, uh, some disease or illness that had been developed, you know, diabetes or high blood pressure or
01:04:27
David Isaacs
clogged arteries or whatever else. So, um, yeah, it's just important to think about these things now and there's time to fix them. But in my eyes, it's more about trying to get better so that my life when I'm 50, 60, 70, hopefully I get that far is still going to be enjoyable and I'm not going to be in a ton of pain or not a ton of medications to, you know, keep me at some state of balance.
01:04:59
Big Dog
Yeah, for sure. um i get that. One other, one interesting, this kind of really off topic, but it kind of got me thinking about disease and illnesses. So was reading in an article the other day, i think in Men's Health, that we've advanced so much, especially in the last 30 years with medicine and science, that like we're extending life.
01:05:24
Big Dog
um And I don't remember if I was talking with my wife or with you around this podcast, but I've kind of just noticed that like comparatively, like our, like my grandparents specifically, like I can remember what my grandma looked like. Obviously I can go find pictures of what my grandmother looked like at 70 and eight. I mean, she was born in 1924, think. And she, I mean, she passed away when she was well into her late seventies, maybe early eighties, but yeah,
01:05:58
Big Dog
she like like comparison to my mom who turned 70 on sunday looked a whole hell of a lot older than like my mom does now currently like my mom like run still runs she's in a fit body boot camp she takes very good care of herself obviously she goes to the doctor whenever she's feeling sick and needs all the checkups um but the caveat to that is because people are living longer uh the rate that people or the the rate of dementia is increasing because, and maybe thinking on it now, it's kind of on topic of, you know, having good sleep habits now, um, to help combat that. But yeah, because people are getting to an age more, ah more frequently that you're, um,
01:06:49
Big Dog
Just like the age and tax on your brain at that age um is more susceptible. So, I mean, I think like the average lifespan is like 76 right now. mean, when they invented Social Security, the average lifespan was to like 65. So in less than 100 years, we've added 10 years of lifespan to our ah you know, and just increasing the better overall health. But a caveat to that is now like now you're gonna not going be able to remember shit and you're probably going to have a terrible time, uncomfortable life at the end if you catch dementia. So another reason why i guess to circle back to my point of this and the point of this episode of podcast is work on yourself now.
Self-Care and Long-term Health
01:07:35
Big Dog
Get good sleep. Focus on reducing your stress and workout regularly and just, you know, do better, be present.
01:07:47
Big Dog
Sorry, that's long-winded.
01:07:47
David Isaacs
Yeah. No, well, maybe not long-winded enough. I mean, there's thousands of different things that we can say and focus on and what have you, but yeah, take small steps, identify something that you want to change, do some research into how to start doing that thing specifically, being more mindful, being more present, wanting to exercise, wanting to eat better.
01:08:14
David Isaacs
And yeah, if it comes down ah adding in one salad a week, two salads a week, or planning out meals or planning workouts or setting up good sleep routines, like how we're talking about here, then yeah, it's trial and error, learn by doing.
01:08:33
David Isaacs
and And think journaling is probably a good way.
01:08:34
Big Dog
Yep.
01:08:37
David Isaacs
To be able to do that, as long as you're paying attention to some of the things that you're doing, how much coffee did you have that day? stressful was your day? Did you deal with something that you normally don't have to deal with?
01:08:50
David Isaacs
Things like that, but it's different for every person. and The high level for this podcast is just me and Brian kind of talking about our own shortcomings and the steps that we're personally taking to better ourselves, but your journey is going to look lot different your destination that where you want to be might be different but however many ways you can think of to be able to get to new york you probably add in like 100 times more paths to get to where you kind of want to be in life so just keep on going one more day and you know i'm glad that you're still around and still willing to listen to us babble on
01:09:35
Big Dog
Hell yeah, Babylon brothers and sisters.
01:09:39
David Isaacs
But I think that's it for me. Ryan, did you have anything else?
01:09:43
Big Dog
That's it. Thanks for listening, everybody.
01:09:46
David Isaacs
Alrighty. Thank you. And we will see you next week. Bye-bye.
01:09:50
Big Dog
Bye.