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Old Thoughts, New Experiences
6 Plays20 days ago
Brian and Dave provide updates with how they're doing and then talk a whole lot about nothing
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Introduction & Episode Overview
00:00:31
David Isaacs
I'll have to try to remember to do that every episode now.
00:00:36
Big Dog
a good, yeah, it's a good, it's a good, it's a brain, but brain flowing, you know what I mean?
00:00:41
David Isaacs
Yeah, it gets the people going. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative.
00:00:43
Big Dog
It's, it's, it's provocative, no one knows what that means.
00:00:50
David Isaacs
Anyways, it is
Brian's Diverse Experiences & Social Adaptability
00:00:51
David Isaacs
June 25th. I am David. He is Brian. We're here to talk about a lot about nothing.
00:01:01
David Isaacs
I think.
00:01:04
Big Dog
Something like that, i guess. We're just kind of a little hodgepodge this week. We haven't seen seeing each other or heard each other's sweet, sweet voices. We haven't kissed the homies goodnight, as it were, a long time. So I'm excited for this episode.
00:01:19
David Isaacs
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I think. Well, that was ah another thing I was thinking about the other day is I am kind of a, you know, what they call ah master of none, or knows a lot about nothing.
00:01:32
David Isaacs
i'm a I'm a very good pick in trivia, but I think sometimes too, looking at my resume, it just kind of looks like a mess. And I know I've had, you know, well, you're working as a business analyst, but you have coding experience, you have all this stuff listed out. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm just a generally curious person.
00:01:50
David Isaacs
I think if anybody were to actually go out and learn some of these things, they might also find that it's not that difficult and doing things from a high level is just kind of what I i like to do. i like to learn.
00:02:05
David Isaacs
Like, is that such a bad thing? I don't know. But I am kind of a master of none when it comes to trivia or whatnot. We had just remembering old, just the weird questions.
00:02:17
David Isaacs
Like, I got an answer right when the answer was the artist less than Jake.
00:02:24
David Isaacs
Like...
00:02:24
Big Dog
What was the question?
00:02:27
David Isaacs
ah It was... was something about songs... And I think it was bands that started with the letter L. So there were three or four bands. And then that was kind of the the trick, not like a trick question, but one that was supposed to like a stump question that a lot of people weren't supposed to get.
00:02:46
David Isaacs
and they just look at me and just less than Jake. They're like, really? I'm like, do you like I I don't know how to explain this to you. i I don't really want to go into why i know this. I just listen to a lot of music.
00:03:02
David Isaacs
Just put it down because like just don't even think about it. I know there are times where I just put out an answer at first and think that and say this is my guess and we go with it and I'm wrong, but I am confident in this one.
00:03:15
Big Dog
Most of the time I'm a dum-dum, but this time I got it in the bag.
00:03:22
David Isaacs
It's always great comedic timing, too. I think with characters that are kind of comedic relief or whatever, and they sometimes just have like this deep interpersonal knowledge or, you know, experience with something. It's like if you you know had had a character on a sitcom, it was mostly like comedic or whatever.
00:03:43
David Isaacs
I think I'm failing to find examples, but there's sometimes when they bring them around their friend group and like they're the smart ones. like they're the knowledgeable ones and just like they're in social paradigm is just shifted.
00:03:55
Big Dog
Oh.
00:03:58
Big Dog
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like hanging out with fat people to make yourself look skinnier kind of mantra. Not that I've ever done that.
00:04:06
David Isaacs
No, no, I think it's, I think it's more about, you know, being kind of like a social chameleon. Cause I think, I think about that sometimes too with, um, in regards to me and like the different people that you hang out with and you kind of have a understanding of, you know,
00:04:12
Big Dog
Ah, that's...
00:04:22
David Isaacs
joking around or, you know, some, some people are like more serious or you kind of act a different way around different people or different groups or whatever, just kind of have a little bit more of an understanding of, you know, kind of the intergroup dynamics or what have you.
00:04:38
David Isaacs
And then to kind of see that if people have somewhat of a, an idea of who you are, but then, you know, i'll kind of see you acting different around different people, not in any bad way or what have you, but.
00:04:51
David Isaacs
Just kind of being that sort of social chameleon, as it were.
00:04:56
Big Dog
Got it. So you're like that Tom Segura joke about Steven Seagal having to be the expert about everything when he was on his TV show. when you know You find out that Steven Seagal is an appointed sheriff's deputy, and he's just like, you know, every time he's in front of an agent, he'll bow.
Nostalgia and Economic Habits during the Pandemic
00:05:15
Big Dog
you know, dab up a black dude, like, hey, you know, trying to make up things, with facts about helicopters. He's like, they call that helicopter a Skippy. And they're like, why?
00:05:26
Big Dog
Because it goes skip, ski skip, skip, skip. He's like, that's bullshit.
00:05:29
David Isaacs
No.
00:05:30
Big Dog
That's bullshit.
00:05:32
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:05:32
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:05:35
David Isaacs
No, it's like, you know, imagine, you know, somebody that's like highly professional, like somebody that you knew from work or something. It's just always, you know, like,
00:05:42
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:05:46
David Isaacs
has a real demeaning personality or not demeaning, but like domineering and is so business focused all the time, not really approachable. And then imagine you see him at like a ICP concert or something with like full face paint on like fucking chinko jeans or jean shorts on or something, you know, chain wallet, all that, all that jazz.
00:06:12
Big Dog
So it's funny that you mentioned JNCO jeans because I also saw someone wear an Atomi Hilfiger shirt earlier this week. Like, not ironically. Like, I think it was just part of his wardrobe.
00:06:25
David Isaacs
Nice.
00:06:25
Big Dog
um And I was like, I don't think I've seen one of those, honest to God, since the year 2001. Like, the year that Lincoln Park, not Lincoln Park, Limp Bizkit tried to end Rock and Roll with its controversial, you know,
00:06:42
Big Dog
the chocolate starfish in the hot dog flavored water. I mean, you know, it's just, and don't know, not as groundbreaking, I guess.
00:06:50
David Isaacs
Yeah, i I've seen them like those. You remember the the suits the m NBA players used to wear that were like ah for draft night or whatever, and they were really big or just, you know, oversized jeans and all this other stuff.
00:07:00
Big Dog
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:05
David Isaacs
Like i cargo shorts, you know, they used to have those zip pants that could turn into cargo shorts. and actually want to get I'd actually want to get like a pair of those going.
00:07:13
Big Dog
Oh yeah.
00:07:16
David Isaacs
Like that'd be cool if they made them like, you know, skinny. now. But looking at that, like the nostalgia whatever from back in the late 90s, early 2000s, like i I can't even wear stuff like that anymore. It just doesn't really not even i don't even want to do it um as a joke.
00:07:36
David Isaacs
I just think it it seems like so uncomfortable. Like I'm dragging around like five pounds, five pounds more in my jeans just from the extra material.
00:07:46
Big Dog
Yeah, that's one. Trap pants were super popular. ah sir and don't know if you know what those are, but they're basically like the Juggalo pants, where it's got all sorts of like zippers, and they're extra long, kind of like an anime-looking style, I guess.
00:07:59
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:08:03
Big Dog
Yeah, I remember like when I was in yeah or taking Japanese class, that's what every chick wore. It was just trap pants. So...
00:08:12
David Isaacs
Yeah, I'm more of a ah heavy up top minimalist on the bottom because a lot of these I feel like a lot of the people it was like a tank top or something like real lightweight up top like T-shirt and then the jeans were just so over the line like 15 pounds worth of denim and zippers and I just never really understood understood it I'm like you know if I can if if it's approaching you know late September or something it's like 60 degrees outside like hand me a hoodie and some shorts
00:08:32
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:08:45
David Isaacs
You know, i'm I'm much more inclined to do something like that than I am. Because they're going out and summertime with these giant jeans or whatever. And I just can't imagine it.
00:08:57
David Isaacs
Like my legs sweating and then the inside of the denim getting wet and, you know, that extra weight.
00:09:05
Big Dog
Yeah, plus the obnoxiousness of if you walk like in a puddle and like it just soaks up.
00:09:10
David Isaacs
No.
00:09:11
Big Dog
and ah and just always felt that, especially like around Berkeley, because it's like basically built on a swamp, that's where I live. um
00:09:21
Big Dog
There's never a shortage of like somebody wearing those type of pants and then there's a water stain up to their ankle that won't ever come out again.
00:09:30
David Isaacs
Oh, yeah, it's it's terrible. And wet socks are probably, you know, my biggest pet peeve. You know, walking around in the house, you walk in a puddle or something, you know, back when we had dogs and they weren't potty trained yet or somebody for some reason, the ice maker sometimes ice gets stuck and it's in this weird in between area and it'll melt.
00:09:46
Big Dog
uh-oh
00:09:54
David Isaacs
And then there's a puddle in front of the fridge and I'm walking around during the day.
00:09:56
Big Dog
yeah
00:09:58
David Isaacs
But even when, you know, we've been doing the lawn, trying to like oversee the lawn and put some fertilizer down because the front and back lawn and a ton of divots, ton of ants and whatever.
00:10:11
David Isaacs
But when I go out in the morning with the dew or since it rained earlier in the morning, I'll have to put on, you know, I've got a pair of boots that I put on just because the the wet grass that gets on top of your shoe and then it gets the top of your sock wet or you know, your shoes are wet and they take forever to dry. I just can't stand it.
00:10:34
David Isaacs
That's why I don't, that's why I don't shower.
00:10:34
Big Dog
I get it.
00:10:39
Big Dog
What?
00:10:39
David Isaacs
I'm kidding.
00:10:41
Big Dog
I was trying to...
00:10:43
David Isaacs
It's just like I'm in the bath and I've got garbage bags duct taped around my feet, you know, just trying to season them like a cast iron skillet.
00:10:53
Big Dog
Yeah, there you HM like bourbon, right? But in your shoes.
00:10:58
David Isaacs
Yeah, barrel-aged from my Nikes. Actually, back to the nostalgia thing, i do want a pair of Air Force Ones. My mom threw mine out a few years ago, and I'm still pissed about it.
00:11:10
Big Dog
Oh gee. Probably right right around the time that that's when they were at their peak price. Every shoe just went hot super hot.
00:11:19
David Isaacs
Well, they're... Yeah, but well, actually, they've...
00:11:26
David Isaacs
they've been the top selling shoe. I don't know every year, but I remember maybe this was four or five, you know, 2019 or maybe before that, you know, they were the the top selling shoe for nostalgia reasons.
00:11:42
David Isaacs
Cause I think it was around the time we were headed towards more of like an economic slowdown and people stop spending as much money. And usually when you have,
00:11:53
David Isaacs
ah times when there is a recession or you know the economy is not doing that great, a lot of people will go back to nostalgia or simpler times you know when you were a kid or whatever.
00:12:07
David Isaacs
So even, yeah with like the pandemic and when that happened and a lot of stuff was shut down and people had a lot of time, but couldn't do anything. That's what really raised up the price of collecting sports cards, Pokemon cards, GameCubes from back in the day and 64 like old video games, you know, started spiking in price because people wanted to get their hands on them because they hadn't had that amount of time when they didn't know.
00:12:33
David Isaacs
how long it was going to be that they didn't have to go to work for. they just started collecting all that stuff.
00:12:40
Big Dog
Well, and also, yeah, just to, like, buy all those systems, too. They had the money because they were getting, you know, yeah ah two or three stimulus checks. And I know that, just speaking from personal experience, my, like, my close friend group, like, of what they spent, it was, like, Magic cards and, you know, retro game systems, like PS4, you know, all the way back to, like, Nintendo. So, um...
00:13:07
Big Dog
that's although especially like because i worked at a comic book store and like that's all we were selling when we were closed we my boss and i would still go into um the shop and so i can be able to ship ebay stuff just so the store would generate some revenue but i'd also get cash paid on their table so at the height of covid i think i was making more like we'll say monthly rate of Unemployment.
00:13:33
Big Dog
I'm probably just incriminating myself. I'm sure I'm going to have to um which
00:13:36
David Isaacs
Yeah, well, I'll edit this out. Don't worry. You know, I'm i'm real big on making sure everything is edited.
00:13:43
Big Dog
to. I was getting yes ah unemployment. The stimulus. Paid cash. um And I was selling my own.
00:13:57
Big Dog
ah still buying and selling magic collections. From... People who just like didn't want to play anymore, they probably just fear that the you know with everything going on that they wouldn't be able to play in-person Magic like they wanted to.
00:14:11
Big Dog
So um yeah, I think I made more like per month then than I do now, and i I make a pretty good living for myself. like This is the most amount of money I've ever made, but maybe should have stuck it out a little bit longer doing that.
00:14:27
David Isaacs
Yeah, I know a guy that, you know, they run sports card breaks or whatever, and there's like hobby boxes which have numbered cards or a lot of signed cards and He makes a pretty good amount of money doing it, but it's only because he's the supplier. The people that gamble on what's going to get pulled in a box generally don't make that much money or they tend to lose money because it's effectively gambling in a different facet.
00:14:54
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:14:54
David Isaacs
But yeah, a lot of the a lot of that stuff that just kind of you know blew up. I wonder too with... You know, what was the concurrent player counts on, say, World of Warcraft when the shutdown happened?
00:15:08
David Isaacs
Like, did they see a spike? I'm guessing they've seen a pretty big spike when it happened or say RuneScape or something like that.
00:15:17
Big Dog
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm I'm sure and kind of along the same lines of like nostalgia. It's like, I know a lot of people bought computer games or new computers so they could play. that's and obviously like was the RMD or AMD, whatever the chip company is, stock shot through the roof because um everyone needed work from home or they just wanted a game from home. So
00:15:43
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:15:49
David Isaacs
Yeah, I miss those times. I don't miss having a offer rejected, or not rejected, but having an offer verbally, and then the shutdown happening two days later, and keeping me out of work for you know, however long it actually came to be for.
00:16:10
David Isaacs
But yeah, those times, you know, generally were a lot simpler and really helped out with like DoorDash kind of got their footing more.
00:16:21
David Isaacs
lot of people were just ordering food because they're at home. Or if you were, and say, renting a place with a few friends, you get together and, you know, what are we going to order for food? And all that jazz, but yeah, I mean, nowadays life's still pretty good, but yeah, I think, you know, I don't, I don't dwell on kind of simpler times anymore to like try to keep my focus on the future and everything.
00:16:48
David Isaacs
But, you know, sometimes when I do think back and like, yeah, I mean, that was a lot of fun, but we'll never, hopefully never get something like that happen again. Because i know even with a lot of people being out of work and for me it was fun, but I know ah the health outcomes for a lot of people weren't that great.
00:17:09
Big Dog
Yeah, a lot of people had a lot of time to to drink because liquor stores were considered essential, so they had to stay open. So people know just were buying out with DoorDash or Grubhub or whatever, Uber woobi orders.
00:17:28
Big Dog
um Yeah, they were like just... I think my... My liquor store buddy said that, like, that was the most amount of money he made, like, in a year, was during, like, the COVID shutdown or everyone was just getting plastered in their homes.
00:17:42
David Isaacs
Mm-hmm.
00:17:42
Big Dog
So,
Personal Impact of COVID-19 & Community Safety
00:17:44
Big Dog
he's like, yeah, I miss those times. used to have a pre-order case of, like, some allocated whiskey and it'd be gone, like, by the end of the day. Like, it was amazing. So,
00:17:57
Big Dog
yeah, but it was not a time I want to repeat where between political divide of like everyone and just, you know, the science experts, right? Like everyone won everyone had an opinion about it. Like that's the thing was the things that I don't miss about it.
00:18:16
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's it's hard to not having something like that happen in while. You know, we had MERS and SARS, I think, like in the early 2000s, but that didn't really. a lot of times the viruses that would go around are really either highly dev deadly or highly contagious, but not both.
00:18:40
David Isaacs
And yeah, COVID and the mutation and origins and how it spread and all that stuff. Yeah, it was quite a big debacle.
00:18:52
David Isaacs
And I know i got I got it pretty bad there in October 2020. And yeah, it kind of knocked me ah through a loop for a couple years. And thankfully I'm back.
00:19:03
David Isaacs
But unfortunately there are a lot of people that still haven't really bounced back from it. And I know when new diseases or say if somebody gets Lyme disease,
00:19:15
David Isaacs
you kind of like these novel viruses that people get, it can affect their immune system or cause some, you know, some genetic issues that are pretty hard to get over.
00:19:27
David Isaacs
And it seemed to have been affecting, you know, younger people that had like more of a robust immune response. And I was just looking at an article yesterday, like rapamycin has some life lengthening properties to it, but it's, I think the biggest immunosuppressant that we have available, which are mostly given to organ donors to keep their immune system from attacking their transplanted organs and everything. But
00:19:58
David Isaacs
Yeah, all that is very and's very interesting. And um yeah, I think I got like forgot to mention this too, but we actually had a, don't know if you've seen in the news, like a shooting at a church in Wayne, Michigan.
00:20:11
Big Dog
Yeah, yeah, I heard about that.
00:20:13
David Isaacs
Yeah, that was actually right down the street from my house.
00:20:17
Big Dog
Oh, shit. Did you hear the gunshots?
00:20:18
David Isaacs
Yeah. No, I didn't hear anything. I was getting ready to go golf, actually. And my mom came in and told me. because my sister had told her.
00:20:29
David Isaacs
But yeah, it's Crosspoint Church and I live right on the edge of Wayne and Westland. Like my street, it goes down this way and it hits Glenwood and then Glenwood, the other side of Glenwood is considered Wayne.
00:20:43
David Isaacs
So if you take a left down that side of the street and go down um like three quarters of a mile, it's that Crosspoint Church right there on the right.
00:20:55
David Isaacs
So I got up to golf. I was thinking, man, you know, maybe I, maybe I shouldn't go, but my other friend was already and driving out there and I'm like, well, you know, just make sure the doors are locked till we get more information. And I was just getting, you know, kind of updates when i was out there and yeah, I didn't know kind of the, uh, overall impact of what had happened, but yeah, it's like more news came out and I guess they,
00:21:26
David Isaacs
Only one person was hurt, security guard that had gotten shot, and they managed to keep and anyone else from getting hurt, which is you know great news to hear. But I knew it was going to be you know national news. And coming back home, mom was like, oh, CNN's picked it up, Fox News picked it up. I'm like, yeah, you know I kind of figured much.
00:21:51
Big Dog
Yeah, I and didn't even read it like on any major like you know social media platform or you know like from CNN or anything like that. I follow a lot of different media ah just for quick updates like yeah yeah yeah ESPN or whatever, just in case you know whatever something happens across a couple of different platforms, though.
00:22:15
Big Dog
I saw it from like some random, it was like the Wayne County Scanner Facebook group or something like that. There, yeah, they said like some active shooter got hit and then shot or something for that circumstance. I was like, whoa, that's crazy. And then you find out kind of like the the details and the motive of the the person who's doing it, and you're like, yeah okay, I guess that makes sense for that person.
00:22:45
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, luckily, luckily no one got hurt. And, uh, you know, uh, plot was, uh, whoever he was plotting got shut down.
00:22:58
David Isaacs
Luckily, thankfully. But yeah, i drove by the church earlier today.
00:22:59
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:23:03
David Isaacs
and yeah, I mean, I think it seems like things are just back to normal. At that time, it was hard to kind of imagine, you know, what the extent of the damage was and all that.
00:23:14
Big Dog
yeah
00:23:14
David Isaacs
But Yeah, i mean, it's very, it's that close to home. And I know we had the Oxford school shooting like last year or two years ago or something. And yeah, mean, it's just terrible.
00:23:30
David Isaacs
You know, the devastation and everything for these families.
00:23:33
Big Dog
yeah um Yeah, didn't the, whatever the names, the Crumbly's or Crumbly, they were sentenced, right?
00:23:45
Big Dog
Or I know that they get their verdicts, but I don't know if they had their sentencing kind of recently.
00:23:50
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know.
00:23:52
Big Dog
I'll have to look that up. But I know they were both, I think they were both found guilty. And then it was just what the terms of the sentence was.
00:24:03
David Isaacs
Yeah, it's hard to tell because I don't think that law is relatively newer. So I think they were kind of the preced it was kind of like the precedent setting case for that law in Michigan.
00:24:13
Big Dog
Probably, yeah.
00:24:15
David Isaacs
So I'm not entirely sure what they got for it.
00:24:21
Big Dog
Yeah, like my, I mean, I own firearms. um Not a lot, not as much as like my brother. hope you're listening to that ATF. Take him down. I'm joking.
00:24:33
Big Dog
um But he's always concerned, especially that because I have a young son, he's like, dude, are you lacking and you're safe up? And like make sure he doesn't know how to get I'm like, Yeah, mine is like, mine's a, almost like an Iron Man how you open it. Like it has to have some sort of biometric and the keypad code to it. So it's not like it's a super easy open.
00:24:57
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah, no, I'd thought about it. Definitely. But for protection or just getting getting something more like a hunting rifle, like how we were talking about kind of trying to control the deer population and that in an earlier episode.
00:25:17
David Isaacs
But yeah, to be able to get something like that and then know you got to make sure that it's well kept and a safe and everything. um
00:25:26
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:25:27
David Isaacs
But don't I've always thought of like the the prepper shows or whatever. i just thought it was cool. They show like a bomb shelter or something. It's just basically like a man cave.
00:25:38
David Isaacs
They just made like a modern bomb shelter.
00:25:40
Big Dog
Yeah,
00:25:41
David Isaacs
You get some solar panels. You get like a golf simulator down there, like a gaming PC. You get a bunch of canned food or some like water barrels or something.
00:25:52
Big Dog
I saw, I don't know if it was like, the story was a newer one or if it was just like a repost of like something that happened like 10 years ago but um this kind of rich couple bought this
Financial Aspirations & Pop Culture Debates
00:26:07
Big Dog
fallout shelter from don't know i think the original owner and like it has like it's so big that it has like ah basketball court and a movie theater in it like
00:26:17
David Isaacs
Is it the one that was an old missile silo?
00:26:20
Big Dog
that may have been maybe that was it
00:26:25
Big Dog
But yeah, they they had like almost seemingly like a jacuzzi and a pool area too or something ridiculous. I don't know. Crazy. But um
00:26:38
Big Dog
yeah, that would thatd that'd be cool. that's That's something I would want. Yeah,
00:26:43
David Isaacs
yeah Yeah, I think it's yeah just kind of cool. It's like level two man cave.
00:26:50
Big Dog
yeah.
00:26:50
David Isaacs
you know And you could just kind of treat it like that.
00:26:50
Big Dog
yeah
00:26:53
David Isaacs
Like, nope, sorry, honey. ah think a threat's imminent. I'll be down in the bunker. And you're just down there like playing video games or whatever.
00:27:04
Big Dog
Yeah, yeah, as you're closing the door to be ah like a joke or something, like, honey, it's happening, I'm locking you out. That's something I would do. If I were that crazy rich and be able to do that, that's what I do. I play that game all the time.
00:27:19
David Isaacs
Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, if I, I've thought about it before, i think $10 million dollars is probably enough money that I don't know what to do with.
00:27:33
David Isaacs
Like, I think that's enough for pretty much whatever I want. And I don't think I'll spend any more than that. Obviously, there's considerations for investing, living off dividends and that. but um So I'd probably spend like $2 or $3 million dollars or something, you know, like a nice lake house, nice boat.
00:27:53
David Isaacs
Get some financial planning together for, you know, and a new car over a few years or something. I'd probably still work. just because, you know, if I didn't work, I don't know what I would do with myself.
00:28:06
David Isaacs
And just thinking about these things, you know, when I'm going to write freaking manuscript or something,
00:28:12
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:28:15
Big Dog
Yeah. You go like pretend that you go at work. So it can be like the like every rap song ever. Like Kanye. Maybe we shouldn't mention that. That name. But Kanye where he's like money. What does he say? He's like the money should have changed him. He should have forgot where he came from.
00:28:33
Big Dog
That's you. That's you. Still working a desk job. Still being a BA with $10 million dollars investments and money saved up. I could see that for you.
00:28:42
David Isaacs
I have to be kind of like quiet about it too. You know, and I just be like, you know, real mysterious or something, inviting people up north of my lake house and everyone's got their speculations as to how I was able to afford it. And I just like, you know, be real, uh, mysterious about it.
00:28:59
David Isaacs
Something like no one ever would find out.
00:28:59
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:29:04
Big Dog
So, real talk, I found out that um one of my coworkers, not like the one that I work with directly, is actually like secretly wealthy.
00:29:15
Big Dog
and like, but you look at him and he's kind of a doofus and lovable doofus, but like he just doesn't have like you know, inheritance or like trust fund, like he doesn't, he's not really well put together. youre Like he's kind of homely like that.
00:29:33
Big Dog
Maybe it's part of the act of like, he doesn't want people to know he has money and I'll give him credit for that. He might, that might be a thing, but I didn't believe it until I saw that he drove in on a, uh, Ford Bronco, like not like the, yeah, yeah.
00:29:48
David Isaacs
raptor yeah
00:29:50
Big Dog
It was, it actually is a Raptor.
00:29:53
Big Dog
Like, and he was just like, but he like works in the warehouse and like, I know, I know how much those guys make and there's there's no, unless he's living out of this thing, like there's no way.
00:30:05
David Isaacs
huh yeah some people could just be bad with money not in that instance i'm sure there's um you know if he can't afford it but i definitely know people that live beyond their means that's the the other problem that i think i have with if i get too much money i'm just gonna be real dumb with it because it's the same thing with people that win the lottery they've never had that much money before and they just blow it all like yeah i've i would have to develop some system for people to babysit me
00:30:39
David Isaacs
But I could also pay people say, wouldn't like want to pay people for like a maid or anything, but, you know, like somebody that would have the keys to my house and like force me to work out every day or something.
00:30:56
David Isaacs
Like, I think that would be a good thing for me to have just that kind of have that structure. You know, we talk about with um not having a not being part of a team anymore, not like actively working towards something. It's just, you know, trying to get something together with your habits that you can do every day and kind of like self love and gratitude or whatever.
00:31:16
David Isaacs
But I just pay David Goggins to come and like beat me up until I get out of bed and go for a run or something.
00:31:24
Big Dog
yeah Yeah, but now like with that kind of money, like you're kind of talking like you're going to supervillain, and then you're just hiring your do-it-all wreck-it-man.
00:31:37
Big Dog
like They work you out, they feed you, you know and they can also spot you know some sort of tail like a mile away. You know i mean? Yeah.
00:31:48
David Isaacs
Yeah. Well, mean, that's just kind of ah kind of what you expect, right? But also depends on how much it also depends on how much they cost, you know, because I think I'd still be a miser.
00:31:53
Big Dog
From you, yeah.
00:31:58
David Isaacs
You know, I'm not getting away from eating Chef Boyardee or peanut butter or jelly sandwiches or ordering Domino's, you know. i don't I don't think there's a an amount of money that would make it so that I'm only eating...
00:32:12
David Isaacs
like good food or quote unquote rich people food. But I think at that point I might have just more of an incentive to enjoy life. So I would start taking my health a little bit more seriously because now that have this amount of money, I have access to a different lifestyle that I wouldn't have had before. And then it comes down to hearing about these professional athletes or, you know, these people that, uh,
00:32:42
David Isaacs
had basically become ATMs for their family. And that's really the only interactions that they have with their family is for them asking for money. So that's the other part of it to consider as well.
00:32:55
David Isaacs
You know, how, how much of it do you have to hide? And, know, certainly things change once people realize that you have all this money.
00:33:09
Big Dog
Fair enough, yeah.
00:33:15
David Isaacs
But, you know, just just kind my brain works. So thinking of all these different scenarios, like, yeah, this would be nice, but I kind of have to think about some some things that I daydream about, I have to think about the negative things then negative things that happen, I kind of have to pull like positive things out of that into it. Just kind of keep me going.
00:33:36
David Isaacs
I think just keep me grounded. Sometimes I get too high. Sometimes I get too low and just have to work a little bit the opposite way to get back to an even keel.
00:33:47
Big Dog
Yeah, like, and just like life, we have balance in the force, you know what i mean? and kind of to you like you your point earlier, fuck, I forgot where I was going with this. Never mind, skip.
00:34:04
Big Dog
so let's Let's move on.
00:34:06
David Isaacs
something about balance in the force. So we've had ah we had three good movies and we had.
00:34:08
Big Dog
I, yeah, i can't finish.
00:34:13
David Isaacs
Two bad movies, one OK movie and then
00:34:16
Big Dog
Oh,
Mental Health & Personal Growth
00:34:17
David Isaacs
one OK movie and then two terrible movies.
00:34:20
David Isaacs
So we're at four or we're at five, let's say four bad movies. And three good movies and a few that are just OK.
00:34:32
David Isaacs
So you're saying eventually we're going to get ah really good movie.
00:34:37
Big Dog
i was I don't... I'm not good at math. Yeah,
00:34:41
David Isaacs
Well, the original, the original, you know, the late 70s, 80s, Carrie Fisher, um let's Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill.
00:34:51
Big Dog
yeah. Those are all good.
00:34:53
David Isaacs
Yeah. So three really good movies. And then the next trilogy, which nowadays people say they liked. and I think there's a nostalgia factor to that. But the third episode of that was okay.
00:35:03
Big Dog
always...
00:35:06
Big Dog
In fairness, the only one that I've ever liked, even back then, was Revenge of the Sith. That was the only one that i actually enjoyed. even when i was like came Episode 1 came out when I was 10, and I instantly hated Jar Jar Binks.
00:35:24
Big Dog
Just so annoying. And then the second one was them trying to phase out Jar Jar Binks but keep him in. And I hated it. And then in Revenge the Sith, and he was liking for like a scene.
00:35:36
Big Dog
I was happy and I liked it. Yeah.
00:35:39
David Isaacs
Gotcha.
00:35:41
David Isaacs
Anyways, yeah, just kind of long-winded joke.
00:35:45
Big Dog
Yeah.
00:35:45
David Isaacs
Didn't really hit that well.
00:35:47
Big Dog
Yeah. Oh, that's what I was... Okay, yeah, yeah. Because you're thinking, like, you have to think about the positive of things and the negative things to kind of, like, bounce out. um Yeah, you're kind of like you're almost like Doctor Strange and Infinity War, who's going like through this 16 million and one different scenarios.
00:36:04
Big Dog
That's kind of how that's how I think, too. like and saying It's okay to have anxiety.
00:36:10
David Isaacs
Yeah. I don't know if it's really anxiety. I think I'm getting down to, with speaking to my therapist, which I'll expand on a little bit, but yeah, I do kind of have these, you know, thoughts or you know, really thinking about these probabilities and things that are out of my control or what have you in, you know life and whatnot.
00:36:33
David Isaacs
But, uh, yeah, I do think I have some like OCD tendencies, Like, I just have kind of a tendency to spiral certain things.
00:36:45
David Isaacs
Not really, like, obsess over them. um But I really like, if I'm feeling a certain way, ah you try to understand why or trying to work through and see, you know, what are the, what things can I do to kind of help me out?
00:37:01
David Isaacs
in those areas. it's like, luckily with seeing a therapist and I can kind of put those things into a box until they're appropriate to, you know, think about more and kind of work on things. Cause the, the adage really is like, I think for me at least, um, overanalyzing a lot of things and trying to take on too much at once. And I think the,
00:37:27
David Isaacs
the main, the main focus is really just kind of on, you know, self-love, self-gratitude and giving myself grace and that, um, and then moving more towards internal motivation as opposed to external.
00:37:42
David Isaacs
So that's what like she's, um, just really helped me out. And that's one of the things that I kind of wanted to work on because I can be sometimes not too focused on one thing or try to take on too much at one time. And I've done pretty well and ah my work to be able to do that.
00:38:00
David Isaacs
um But kind of outside of any type of structure, it becomes more difficult for me. And when my mind wanders, it can go pretty far, pretty fast and jumping from different things.
00:38:16
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, it's okay sometimes to, you know, get a good analysis of things. But, yeah, and sometimes it's just recognizing when maybe it goes a little too far and you kind of have to, like, reel yourself in, like you were talking about earlier, with being even keel. So, yeah.
00:38:38
Big Dog
But yeah, it's like when you get to over thoughts in the second and third and fourth thoughts, that's when intrusive thoughts start winning. So that's when you kind of have to start giving yourselves maybe a little bit of grace or backing up on this thought pattern for a second.
00:38:57
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. I think there's, there's always like the competing forces and trying to find that balance and, you know, really, really just being present.
00:39:09
David Isaacs
I think you can kind of, you know, match up what you've done that day or that week or writing down things that you plan to do things that you're proud of yourself for doing. And,
00:39:24
David Isaacs
It really helps out in that sort of way. But yeah we're working against habits that have been created out of childhood or that we've held with us for 30 plus years.
00:39:35
David Isaacs
So I think sometimes I feel like it's helping me to try to make these discoveries or kind of put them into practice or kind of like spin me out.
00:39:46
David Isaacs
Not exactly, you know, kind of using see my own mind as a guinea pig of you know, how, what helps me out when I think this way or I feel this way or what have you. But I think it comes down to, you know, just kind of those experiences and, um you're always faced with not every day is going to be easy.
00:40:06
David Isaacs
So where are you at when the days are hard? What were you able to get done when the days were easier? is it better to get done things when the days are easier? you know Maybe you've accomplished four or five things when a day is easy and you feel good about that.
00:40:22
David Isaacs
Maybe some days when the days are hard and you have four or five things to get done and you manage to only get done two of them. you know Maybe you feel better about doing that than you do on the good days because those i think they're really the test of our our willpower and our motivations and everything and insane.
00:40:44
David Isaacs
You know, if, uh, cause yeah, you're not every day is going to be good. There's going to be things outside of your control that, are going to affect you ah physically, mentally, or, you know, just kind of take time away from other things that you want to get done.
00:41:01
David Isaacs
But yeah, I think the good takeaways are there. You're like thinking about, you know, what kind of a What kind of a person of my am I am I? Because I think it's easier to show up for people when it's easy.
00:41:15
David Isaacs
It's harder when it's hard. and It's harder to have those difficult conversations or really be looking out for somebody or there to help when you're not doing so well. But yeah, I think just kind of those takeaways and really feeling good about yourself internally is something that I hadn't done in quite a while.
00:41:38
David Isaacs
You know, so
Parenting, Job Market, and Economic Shifts
00:41:39
David Isaacs
sometimes it works to the effect of, know, when times are bad, I don't think about that as much. But when times are good, I definitely think about it less. Or if I am doing good, I think about that less. I don't have as much of a feeling of ah accomplishment as I do for, you know, feelings of shame, especially when things happen. They're kind of outside of my control.
00:42:04
Big Dog
Yeah, for sure. It's easy to get stressed about things that are out of our control just as kind of maybe an excuse to be justified in our feelings. But, you know, it's that's not healthy. So it's kind of just taking just an extra second to think about maybe your reply to someone or, you know, your body language. But, you know, there's always...
00:42:30
Big Dog
things we could probably do better that's within our control. But when we start worrying about, you know, what other, another person thinks of us, um, you know, beyond what, when we try to present our bows are tried to present ourselves in the best way possible.
00:42:48
Big Dog
Um, you know, we can't control how they're going to react. We can only control us and our delivery and on our, our appearance. It's like, you know, really any job or new, maybe if you're going out of date,
00:43:01
Big Dog
you kind of just leave everything the table uh you know maybe some examples of this are better than others but um you yeah you want you don't necessarily have to dress up like in a suit to have a winning attitude but have to be comfortable in your own clothes being comfortable in your skin or vice versa um And that's how I've always approached every interview. That's how I approached every date or even meeting new people. i always try to give the best impression, even if it's just me being a complete goofball. But, you know,
00:43:42
Big Dog
I've been putting in more of an effort to be in my, you know, my son's life and, you know, to be a great dad. um am not always successful at that, but at least i am putting my best foot forward to step on and improve as a person or to be that person.
00:44:00
Big Dog
And it's always, I'm never, you're never going to be a perfect person. so it's kind of just, working towards your strengths. And sometimes it might be just a bit of trial and error, but until you get those experiences, you don't really know what to do.
00:44:15
Big Dog
But it's just something to build a foundation upon.
00:44:19
David Isaacs
Yeah, I think, um you know, the memes, the, you know, parent memes or whatever, definitely cringe. But I think the the takeaways from them usually are, you know, with the first kid and you're very cautious about everything. They bump their head, you take him to the doctor or, you know, you want to be careful about what they're eating. You got eyes on them all the time. And by the like time the second kid comes around, you know, they're able to explore a little bit more. You're not as authoritarian as you were the first time around because you've taken in those experiences and you know that
00:44:53
David Isaacs
for better or worse, so most things are going to be okay. And you have a better sense of when to freak out, uh, when to take action and and do some of these things. So yeah, it's definitely, you know, the thing with, um, know, jobs being a parent and getting this knowledge and what's helpful with being present is not everyone's going to tell you.
00:45:19
David Isaacs
Right. i think generation to generation, you know, I always hear parents and talk about like, Oh, we used to let you guys do this and it was fine. Well, we've, we've got new information now that tells us that it's not fine.
00:45:33
David Isaacs
And actually it was pretty detrimental to our health or our psychology or whatever else. So we're not going to do that. Um, cause yeah, fine is not really a great determinant of, um,
00:45:48
David Isaacs
parenting or how your child is acting or doing or feeling or what have you and yeah i mean kind of the same thing with the job market right now and still actively interviewing applying um and we talked before the call and i did have a ah final interview last wednesday uh, for a cup of day I would like to work for, but at the end of the day, that's something that's outside of my control.
00:46:09
Big Dog
I think that's...
00:46:15
David Isaacs
And I, I felt good about my preparation and the time that I put in. And there are some things that i wish I did some things, uh, some questions I wish I handled differently.
00:46:29
David Isaacs
um things that I would have wished I did in the presentation, but overthinking about how somebody else feels about you. I think a lot of times I'm really off base when it comes to it.
00:46:41
David Isaacs
And other than that, maybe there's somebody else, um, that is also very competitive. And as they're picking through these things and their takeaways from each one of those interviews, uh, whether it's, you know, actual factual or not, but sometimes you just never know.
00:47:00
David Isaacs
I think about it all the time, too. If you see you know people freaking out in public or you're out and about and somebody is freaking out. you know I don't think that i I want to believe that that person isn't doing that.
00:47:16
David Isaacs
ah they're They're not like that every day. i tend to think maybe this person is just having a bad day. Because I think that adage, when it rains, it pours, is usually just people start to freak out about nothing when they're overly stressed.
00:47:32
David Isaacs
And who's to say, you know, it could be some single mom of three kids and whatever she's had to deal with that day or some people that just don't manage stress well. So I think that's one of the the main things that we weren't.
00:47:46
David Isaacs
that wasn't really ingrained in us throughout our childhood is how do you handle stress? How do you manage stress? Or if we were taught a way to be able to do it, it definitely wasn't a healthy way to be able to do it.
00:47:59
Big Dog
Yeah, ah the way I learned it when I was growing up was from Limp Bizkit and that was to break stuff when you are at your worst.
00:48:09
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:48:09
Big Dog
Anyway, yeah, I don't wear stress well sometimes, lot of the times. um And then, know, I become a stress eater. So like having a kid Having to find a job, you know, it's all stressful and I was just stressed eating and that's, you know, it's how I gained weight. So I wasn't holding myself accountable or, you know, able to be in the mindset to stop. So.
00:48:46
Big Dog
Yeah, no, I mean, that's good that you got your to the final interview and know you had talked earlier. obviously before we we hopped on here and it sounds like you have to wait another like week or so to hear from the recruiter or anybody at the company.
00:49:03
David Isaacs
Yeah, I don't know. a Final interview was a week ago. They said they were still reviewing, ah still interviewing other candidates. The recruiter reached out a couple days ago, said, ah yeah, just check in make sure that I'm still interested, which you definitely am.
00:49:25
David Isaacs
but it's not keeping me from interviewing with different companies. And think I have a final interview scheduling out for either later this week early next week.
00:49:37
David Isaacs
So we'll see. Yeah. Cause can't keep all my eggs in one basket and I do like this company and have heard great things and think I could be, you know, very ah helpful to the team and what have you, but yeah,
00:49:53
David Isaacs
Who's to say, you know, the grass is greener on the other side? and think sometimes in in life, our first choice doesn't end up being the best or our thoughts or ideas of what something could be once you're able to achieve it or you kind of learn from somebody else that it's not exactly what we thought it was going to be.
00:50:14
David Isaacs
And that's kind of one of the things that I don't enjoy so much about the interview process because it kind of comes down to not really understanding or not really having, you, you can't go too much in depth to understand people's motivations and how they interview. if that could be different than, you know, how they're represented to the team. And as a interviewee, you don't exactly know what they're looking for culturally, um to be able to like showcase these those things. Cause maybe you do align with them culturally, but,
00:50:46
David Isaacs
the way that interviews are set up doesn't allow you to kind of shine in those moments or because I just kind of took it as making sure that you know, you know, kind of what you're doing and being able to showcase that.
00:51:02
David Isaacs
And I wish i would have taken it a step further and, you know, showing I was able to be flexible. And when people had questions or suggestions or anything, might have came off a little bit more defensive, but I think that was just,
00:51:17
David Isaacs
kind of my mindset in being able to explain how and why I did things. And ah yeah, like I said, I blocked out time to be able to do that. I did the visually visualizations, Power BI that I hadn't worked with ah for very long.
00:51:35
David Isaacs
um And yeah, I think I handled the interview well and the questions they had and definitely provide a lot of insights. So yeah, I mean, now it's just a waiting game to to see.
00:51:46
David Isaacs
But like I said, you got to keep going.
00:51:51
Big Dog
Yeah, can't stop, won't stop until you got a different job and you got better pay and benefits and do all things that you want to do.
00:52:01
David Isaacs
Yeah. And also, you know, working on other streams of income and there's always stuff to do around the house. Uh, and other things that I do have control over that I need to get more work on.
00:52:16
David Isaacs
But yeah, I think it comes down to, you know, trying to solve the symptoms of what I'm trying to do. And yeah, sometimes you don't have, well, you really don't have control over.
00:52:29
David Isaacs
whether or not you get hired to a place or, you know, kind of what's going on at your current job, or even if you're able to switch jobs, because right now, timing for doing that is ah not great.
00:52:44
David Isaacs
The timing for buying a house, you know, generally not great. So I just don't want to get to the point of, you know, kind of, doing or taking something or getting a house or like overpaying or whatever just because i feel like that's where i need to be at because i think that's more external motivation really thinking i'm falling behind in certain ways because i haven't gotten to a certain place but i think that comes from just kind of comparative analysis than it is actually internally focused
00:53:20
David Isaacs
But I do know the internal focus is that I do want a different job. I want different challenges. And ah know in my mind, you know, kind of got into data for, know, the passion of trying to help my team members out and looking deeper into the data and developing these insights to save the company money, make the company more money and, you know, kind of proven my value, my worth and,
00:53:48
David Isaacs
you know making sure that if anyone has questions about certain things and they can come and talk to me and, you I'd actually take the time to help them understand as much as I possibly can.
00:54:01
David Isaacs
You know, if they're curious about it or doesn't matter if they're curious about it or if it has some sort of um impact somewhere in the company.
00:54:14
Big Dog
Yeah, I feel you in that. um That's how I was last year. um And two years prior, almost three years prior to that. you know um It's hard because you gotta spend so much, especially now with interviews, you know because you said it was was three rounds and the case study or the data a presentation.
00:54:40
David Isaacs
Yeah.
00:54:42
Big Dog
Yeah, like that's, I mean, I know i know it's it's a larger company and I'm sure they had a large pool that they kind of had to pick from, but that still seems like a lot to me.
00:54:54
Big Dog
mean, for me, usually it's like a phone screening and then an interview and then ah some sort of test, you know? Like I think two rounds and a test is good, not necessarily in that order, but I think it's...
00:55:09
Big Dog
cause these companies want to fill this as soon as possible. Now that they're kind of back and feeling kind of in control, right? Like it wasn't like talking about the good old days of the pandemic where you could literally like go on any job board and they're just, every company is hiring remotely. and
00:55:27
Big Dog
um so now that they, I guess, kind of feel back in power, they can take their time of sorts, obviously at a much faster pace, um,
00:55:39
Big Dog
and they wanna do as cheap as possible. So they're like, you know, even outsourcing the company, you know, outsourcing jobs to third world country in India.
00:55:50
Big Dog
um You know, there's a lot of competition out there for, especially tech you know, lot of kind of different industries um where companies aren't just willing to pay, you know, a decent wage. And so, you know,
00:56:09
Big Dog
there's probably gonna be less listings for you know like a data analyst entry or entry level data person for like $15 an hour than there are for you know the senior analyst who's gonna make $45 an hour or whatever the case is.
00:56:23
Big Dog
So it sucks, I feel for people who are going through that.
00:56:31
David Isaacs
Yeah. and it's ah and It's just the way that the timing is and the way the game has changed a lot over the last few years.
00:56:42
David Isaacs
You had the introduction with AI, you had employers taking that power back and really during the the big boom of the pandemic of, you know, having access to money that wasn't attached to very high interest rates. So these companies that had plans and had projects lined up that didn't have any throughput and, you know, subsequent years after that of kind of getting rid of these people that may or may not have actually ever done anything.
00:57:15
David Isaacs
at the company. But yeah, nowadays, it's definitely shifted. And since those companies that have downsized have not really gotten more into hiring and even hearing leadership at my own company, consistently always thinking that a slowdown is coming, which I think is probably their rhetoric for the next 20 And and seeing you know what ai is capable of and sometimes you know you go through layoffs and you're safe but i've heard from other people that i know just how much more they've had to take on uh since people have left their team and now what more they're responsible for and everything so
00:58:06
David Isaacs
Yeah, it is. It is tough. was a tough market. You know, I'm grateful for the position that I have right now. I'm grateful for, you know, my mind when I'm able to really focus in on something because I know I'm, you know pretty much capable of learning things from a high level at any particular facet.
00:58:31
David Isaacs
But yeah, I mean, it just kind of comes down to who's the who's the best that showcasing it, who makes the interviewers feel the most confident that they've made the right decision. Because, yeah, I mean, it is.
00:58:48
David Isaacs
Uh, it is expensive for these companies to conduct these interviews because they have to take time to conduct them. They have to take time to go over them and meet and deliberate and come to a decision on all this.
00:59:03
David Isaacs
And at end of the day, if you make the wrong decision about it, you know, that could that could be a detrimental to productivity. And, you know, I think we pretty much all know people that we work with or people that, you know, heard stories from other people of
00:59:25
David Isaacs
um somebody that just does not do very well at their job, yet they've been there for however long.
00:59:35
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah. So. Anyways, just got to keep going. You know, stuff happens, whether it's good or bad, and you just got to keep going.
00:59:47
David Isaacs
Sometimes you don't get the job, and sometimes you get $10 million dollars somehow. And he like plan out the bunkers and the lake houses and everything, but the other detrimental effects of kind of how you handle things.
01:00:03
David Isaacs
So hear it all the time. You know, it's a lot less of what happens to you, but how you react to it. And I think that's just life. You know, not everything is going to be sunshine and rainbows, especially around here lately with all the rain we're
Personal Projects & Environmental Awareness
01:00:20
David Isaacs
getting.
01:00:20
David Isaacs
But you just got to keep on keeping on, man.
01:00:21
Big Dog
Yeah, now we can. That's all right, man. um Well, if I said anything negative, I apologize. i will I hope you get the job, and it sounds like a great company to work for.
01:00:39
David Isaacs
Yeah. Yeah, hopefully. and know, uh, you know, Cheek's been, my friend Eric has been pretty helpful with that. Has he followed up with you at all about the website? Or he kind of just stopped talking once it got finished?
01:00:57
Big Dog
Yeah, he hasn't really said anything but about it. I don't know if he needs anything, but I don't think that maybe I do have his number, but I'm kind of at the point where it, like, you know, if anybody needs me, I'll kind of just done as a do it as, like, I don't know, side still as a side job. I just don't really be advertising it. as you If, you know, people just send them my way, but you know I just don't really have the time just between my family and trying to keep my son occupied this summer. and
01:01:37
Big Dog
So everything and going on with my dad, i just don't I just don't have the time for it as much as I want to be able to dedicate. So, you know, effectively kind of killing my side business for now.
01:01:49
David Isaacs
Yeah. And that's okay. It's okay, Brian. It's okay.
01:01:57
Big Dog
I really miss being able to just like write code for something that wasn't like a toilet store. I'm not calling my employment a toilet store. Literally, i work for a plumbing supply company, so I can say that.
01:02:10
Big Dog
But but yeah, no I... Miss having the, you know, my only stakeholders, like my VP, I'm just having more than like, you know, helping on ah another small business kind of get off the ground. it was exciting.
01:02:29
Big Dog
when you like kind of meet what they were looking for, a little smile or, you know their inflection or voice changes, up something positive. So I guess I just missed the diversity of different people. know what I mean? Like I like working in an office, especially with a smaller team because you can get to know them quicker, faster.
01:02:47
Big Dog
Um, you know, so get a good working relationship, but you got a nice bond. Um,
01:02:55
Big Dog
so, um,
01:02:58
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean...
01:03:03
Big Dog
forgot where I was going with this again. been really bad. I've just been...
01:03:09
David Isaacs
Yeah, you're a little rusty. We've been out of it. I'm a little rusty. But no, I think the yeah ability to kind of showcase your skills and at work, I think it follows along a structure of at least getting requirements, repeating the instructions based on those requirements and shipping for approval and then kind of just doing that again.
01:03:35
David Isaacs
for the same time, you know, maybe the the valve or something with the tank, maybe the ah tank on the toilet's a little bit bigger, so you gotta change that. styling really remains the same and everything.
01:03:50
David Isaacs
So yeah, I definitely see it. And kinda like the positives of work is that it's more structured and you know what you have to do and you know, it takes time.
01:04:02
David Isaacs
that time that you spend and stuff that you learn but outside of it the kind of the same deal of gathering those requirements and wireframing and putting things together and kind of going back and forth and
01:04:20
David Isaacs
having that person be impressed with your work and kind of coming to that A solution or resolution or whatever, and then finally getting a website. Yeah, i mean, it's definitely tickles a different part of your motivations and everything. So definitely ah understand
01:04:40
Big Dog
yeah oh Yeah, that's right.
01:04:43
Big Dog
But yeah, if you need something, I can reach out. haven't talked to him since, God, I think when buffalo or the the Lions were playing Buffalo.
01:04:54
Big Dog
So like early December.
01:04:57
David Isaacs
Gotcha.
01:04:57
Big Dog
Maybe literally the week before Christmas. So
01:05:05
Big Dog
yeah, yeah. What about you? Like what, uh, I know you're, you've been doing a lot of gardening and, um, you know, just kind of more, want to say choresy stuff, but you know, maybe more home stuff kind of, uh,
01:05:23
David Isaacs
Yeah, just helping my mom out, fix some stuff that should have been fixed a long time ago. Between having animals and kids in the house and things that have been broken before that I really got fixed.
01:05:36
David Isaacs
So we finished up the flooring. had to change out some of the vents. So, you know, crawl through the crawl space for that. We just did kind of like the drop down to the basement, you know that little level before the stairs just did that floor yesterday preparing to do the backsplash in the kitchen kind of talking through how we want to tackle that.
01:05:51
Big Dog
Oh.
01:05:59
David Isaacs
I know she painted some of the kitchen today. Just kind of like muddying up the walls on where the Brinks home security system for the nineties were like those key pads and suffer at, um,
01:06:13
David Isaacs
The garden, yeah, ah it's coming together a lot better now. We're getting some cucumbers, some banana peppers that are growing currently. I've taken two cucumbers off the vine so far.
01:06:24
David Isaacs
i didn't realize that cucumber plants and banana pepper plants, at least the ones that I've gotten, are they'll have like 10 to 20 of those vegetables on each one of them.
01:06:25
Big Dog
Nice.
01:06:36
David Isaacs
So I ordered some like fermentation kits. I got to get some ball jars and pickle a ton of the stuff. I'm currently at war with cucumber beetles, which is something that I didn't realize was an issue, but they're attracted to like pumpkins, squash, zucchini, and cucumber plants.
01:06:57
Big Dog
Oh, it's like cold weather crops.
01:06:59
David Isaacs
Yeah, like the cucumbits, whatever that classification of plants are.
01:07:05
Big Dog
Okay.
01:07:05
David Isaacs
And the problem is not with them eating things, but really that they spread this bacteria that causes wilt, and it will spread through naturally.
01:07:16
Big Dog
Hmm.
01:07:19
David Isaacs
into like the vascular system and basically shuts off any of the like water from reaching the rest of the plants due to like the inflammation or whatever.
01:07:30
David Isaacs
And there's not a real good way to determine deter them. We looked up and seen that ladybugs would eat them. So like a joke that we're deploying 1500 ladybugs to the battlefield to win this war against them.
01:07:39
Big Dog
Oh, yeah.
01:07:49
David Isaacs
but I think it, it, it just kind of came down to, we attracted the pests and we didn't have any of the predators that had shown up yet. So I go out there constantly and like flick a ton of them off.
01:08:00
David Isaacs
And I've got a like garden or a wolf spider in the corner of a raised bed, which I was like joking that it was just squatting and not doing its job.
01:08:09
Big Dog
Yeah.
01:08:12
David Isaacs
But actually flipped over ah cucumber beetle off one of the plants and then it tried to fly away and flew right into its web. and I'm like, damn it. I don't want them to think it's just, you know, like you're going to get fed.
01:08:26
David Isaacs
Like you actually have to work for your food. Like this is terrible, but we released all those ladybugs and I've yet to find any of them still there. Cause they'll eat aphids. They'll apparently will eat cucumber beetles, but that didn't seem to be the case.
01:08:40
David Isaacs
So, but it's been a pretty good learning experience. Like I said, I'm, you know, I just kind of attracted to learning new things about stuff and kind of taking some of that power back. I know there's lot of stuff in the news recently of Kroger shutting down stores. There's Kroger employees striking.
01:09:00
David Isaacs
They've had issues with quality. I think they're getting sued for like overcharging on prices and like price tags and stuff that hadn't been updated. and I really just kind of wanted to take that power back and gain some of that knowledge between being able to produce your own food and what it takes and everything. so and We're at a pretty good spot right now besides cucumber beetles, but luckily none of the plants have died.
01:09:26
David Isaacs
But and I have noticed there are some cucumbers that ah basically are shown and then die off, so I don't know if that's coming from Cucumber beetles, like getting in the flowers. i always catch them on the flowers. always catch them, you know early in the morning and taking a shop vac to them for, sprayed them down with neem oil. Like there's really not a great way to keep them away, but, um, yeah, we just haven't had,
01:09:53
David Isaacs
like the predators that have been able to come around and deter them because they'll release pheromones to let other cucumber beetles know that this is a good place to eat. And then they'll like lay eggs in the soil or overwinter in the soil. So you got to move the plants to a different location and our raised beds right next to each other. And it's it's a whole thing.
01:10:15
Big Dog
I hate bugs, I hate rodents, I hate everything that of a species that causes me to have to deal with something around my house and places I don't want to go.
01:10:27
David Isaacs
Yeah. and I found a gopher in the backyard a couple weeks ago, which don't know where the hell it came from because we're in the middle of the suburbs. But
01:10:38
David Isaacs
like if it's if it's hungry enough, then and didn't eat any of the things that I was worried about it eating. so I'm like, yeah, I can come around. It's fine by me. Like,
01:10:50
Big Dog
Yeah, there's a
01:10:54
Big Dog
a... Not a groundhog, but... Oh, no, it was a groundhog. There was a groundhog in my in-law's backyard out there Newfoundland. We'll say puppies, like five, like grabbed him by his neck and just like launched him over the fence somewhere.
01:11:11
Big Dog
was like young one, too. it was like under a year. But they didn't have a groundhog problem after that.
01:11:18
David Isaacs
yeah Yeah, it's really just like the the bugs. It's been an issue. Rain can be an issue because it'll compact the soil. And also the compost we put i as a top dressing will splash on the plants and they can get like fungal infections from them.
01:11:39
David Isaacs
It's not totally common, but yeah, it's... a It's doing pretty well. ah Banana peppers should be later on in the season. And I've already taken off two cucumbers off the potted cucumber plant that I have.
01:11:54
David Isaacs
And that one's growing a third one. so once more and more come, you know, I have different, different ways to pickle them.
01:11:58
Big Dog
Nice.
01:12:03
David Isaacs
One being a ferment fermentation method, others will be kind of like traditional pickling. And there's like some other techniques that you can do, try to keep them crisp and, you know, different recipes and that for the brine that you make for them. So,
01:12:19
David Isaacs
ah Yeah, it's it's been fun. um Yeah, there's going to be a lot more effort coming soon trying to can in all this stuff.
01:12:32
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, that's awesome. I'm glad and commend you for doing that because, like, I have a a child and we should be doing that and we just don't have the ah time or capacity to do it right now. So we have two raised garden beds that we just haven't used in a couple of years. So weeds grow out of them currently.
01:12:54
Big Dog
um we haven't just been able to really afford for somebody to kind of, like, come over and like landscape almost if you will. So um maybe that'll be like a next year thing or end of season thing for us to work on, i' getting it ready for the following year.
01:13:12
David Isaacs
Yeah, it could be. You can look up kind of like winterizing them, which I think is kind of like the basic process of, you know, you pull all the weeds out, you put some compost over the top. It's like a top dressing, and then you take some straw.
01:13:28
David Isaacs
like regular straw, not the straw that has grass seed in it, but just regular straw over the top. ah you like try to keep the soil from freezing and that'll help out with the microbes. So when you come plant during the spring or after the last frost date, once you put all that stuff in the soil should be good and packed full of those, ah those microbes that didn't die off over the winter time from frozen soil.
01:13:53
David Isaacs
But you can do, you can pretty much automate it as well. There's like some drip irrigation things that you can do And you basically just tie on like a little Y thing to the back hose and a timer and kind of like a ah pipe that you put underneath the grass that goes out into the raised beds.
01:14:13
David Isaacs
And these pipes that have little holes in them in each row. And then you set the settings to how much water that you want to go into them. But Yeah, there's been a lot of learning about, you know, kind of watering techniques, how much water things need, soil testing or drainage and soggy soil due to the rain and trying to protect plants from the rain and all this other stuff.
01:14:37
David Isaacs
um Just like I said, just trying to get as much knowledge as I possibly could about the entire thing. so when it comes next year, I'll know um kind of the ins and outs and being able to do these things.
Personal Development & Life Priorities
01:14:53
Big Dog
Yeah, man, that's awesome that you, I mean, I remember you saying that you're like, that I really wanted to do that. And that was like, probably what less than three months ago. And that's impressive, the amount of knowledge that you've gained and dedication you have to it. That's awesome.
01:15:07
David Isaacs
Yeah, thank you. I think it just kind of comes down to two. um You know, the cucumber beetles I i had real no knowledge about until I'm like, oh, I I constantly find like new bugs that I've never seen before.
01:15:22
David Isaacs
And then once I started to see there were a lot that were congregating on those plants, i was like, wait, this could be a pest. And then I learned about it and like trying to take care of them. And then the neem oil, which a lot of people online say it doesn't help at all.
01:15:39
David Isaacs
um It could also be kind of detrimental to pollinators. So it would only spray at like a specific time. But I think, yeah, you really just learn by doing.
01:15:52
David Isaacs
You know I could have sat here and didn't do it this year and try to learn everything that I possibly could. But at the end of the day, it just kind of comes into context of you can learn.
01:16:04
David Isaacs
You can learn quite a bit without putting things into practice. But until you actually put them into practice is when you'll learn to find out about this stuff.
01:16:15
Big Dog
Yeah, it's not like some video games where you can kind of just pick up little controller and you know be great at the game in like a few seconds. um It definitely takes a lot of... As football players say, honing your craft.
01:16:33
Big Dog
I don't know if can say honing, but honing your craft. like Perfecting your craft. Keep working at it. like there are football players who are like superstar athletes and they're like, I know that I could do better. Like I could have ran this route better. I could have, you know, got a better hand and position for a tackle. Like there's just like a lot of different things. And, you know, especially with the advancements of technology, it's like they're, it's like, you know, they recognize that they can always do better in certain situations, but you know, they're, um,
01:17:07
Big Dog
it's not, it's a, it's, but that comes from experience of just, uh, reps, you know? So think football and like boxing are two best, like sports, in my opinion, that lot of people can learn things from, from, because as I say, you're trying to fix master of the sweet science of boxing is like, yeah, it's a great workout.
01:17:36
Big Dog
Um, but it's also a great way to defend yourself and it's a great way to get in shape. So there's like a lot of different, I think things you can learn from that.
01:17:42
David Isaacs
Yeah.
01:17:46
Big Dog
Just really just sports in general, you know, to you being part of a team and you know, your individual role, like you, and you just knowing that you're putting the best effort forward and, you know, kind of just work as a unit.
01:18:02
David Isaacs
Yeah, think it comes down to, too. too that there's always going to be added benefits for the things that you're doing. Like you had mentioned with boxing, it's a good way to get in shape or stay in shape.
01:18:14
David Isaacs
And other added benefits of being able to def defend yourself. And, you know, can I think it kind of plays too in life with the whole gardening thing.
01:18:24
David Isaacs
It kind of keeps your mind fresh and thinking about these things and trying to do best that you can with the information that you have and the resources that you have.
01:18:35
David Isaacs
available to you. And yeah, I mean, sometimes it's not going to work out. Had some plants that died off earlier on, had a lot of plants at the beginning, had to give away some of them. And once you get everything together, there's going to be some things that you didn't really exactly think about.
01:18:53
David Isaacs
Or when it comes to jobs, you know, generally if I find a problem and dig into it more than I find two or three more problems that need to be addressed and fixed or what have you. So really just the openness to experience is an openness to learning and the further understanding and, um, you know, kind of becoming more knowledgeable about certain things and not really having that fear of failure because the more that you are open to experience and learn and things, then you, uh, it becomes easier to you know, fail.
01:19:30
David Isaacs
And, you know, I didn't like when I had plants that died. right. Well, I have to figure out why they died, keep the other plants up because I can't just, you know, sit and dwell on this. Otherwise the whole crop's going to die and learning to just be okay with, you know, well, we got cucumber beetles that do the best that I can to keep them away, but the plants are still doing okay for now. So there's not much else that I could do about it.
01:19:56
David Isaacs
And yeah, I think it really just helps with the openness to experience of,
01:20:03
David Isaacs
Not exactly like feeling better about yourself, but feeling better and, you know, kind of down times. You know, if I don't get this job, well, I still got to keep going. I still got to, know, keep interviewing like I am currently oh and still have to apply myself to my own work, even though I'm less motivated to do so because I'm feeling like I've got one foot out the door.
01:20:26
David Isaacs
So I know that's not right or when other things are happening to you, like we spoke about earlier, well, you still got to get things done. You're probably not going to be able to get as much as you want it done, but you'd probably feel better if you get something done as opposed to when times are good and you're able to get a lot more done.
01:20:43
David Isaacs
And, um, yeah, it's kind of just that change in my mindset, whether it's being a social chameleon or change of mindset as to what's currently going on in your life and what you're dealing with. And I know you've had kind of stressful last few weeks with your dad and, um, know, with your job and everything else. So, um, yeah, just kind of not only open it to experience, but open to resetting your, your standards or reevaluating your standards. Um,
01:21:17
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, ah i I wish I had more time. Like, I wish they would figure out a way for us to not have to sleep, you know, regenerate that brain power that make whatever makes us feel rested.
01:21:31
Big Dog
I wish I had more time to make more money. mean, I'm sure everybody, everybody does. But the reality is that my parents took care of me. They help pay for my wedding. They've, um, you know, help pay for expenses while I'm unemployed.
01:21:45
Big Dog
Um, they've been there from i for all my, from my life. So, you know, why should I turn my back on them just because I need to make more money now, or at least the the thought that I do.
01:21:56
Big Dog
Um, yeah, just, i mean, family is important to me. So, um, It was kind of a rough rough adjustment at first, um you know, because I've never experienced anything like this with my parents. You know, obviously I've had aunts and uncles and grandparents who have passed away, but it feels a little bit different when it's your actual parents. So my dad's not very talkative to begin with. He's was very quiet, so it's kind of hard to read if he's in pain or not, or if, you know, he recognizes who I am or everything that's going on.
01:22:35
Big Dog
It's kind of hard to sometimes process that all. But, you know, he's my dad.
01:22:46
Big Dog
what else you know What else can I do? So I'm trying to give back and do all the things that I can with the amount of time that I have and not sacrificing time with my own family. so
01:22:57
David Isaacs
Yeah, definitely. I think too, you know, with the your son and your wife and whatever, um giving you extra motivation to go out and go do the coding bootcamp find a different job that allows you for, know, flexibility to spend time with them and the added financial security, like thinking about, you know, like your son's college fund or ah nest egg, or if something happens to like save up that money too. So I think I, I hear a lot, uh, obviously haven't experienced it myself, but,
01:23:34
David Isaacs
um with having kids or getting married or, you know, kind of the positive things that have happened in life to give you more of a perspective on things and more of a motivation to, you know, do better in certain aspects.
01:23:53
Big Dog
Yeah, I mean, it definitely gives you another thing to kind of like, on one hand, it gives you one thing to, one more thing that you have to worry about. Or it could be many things, right?
01:24:03
David Isaacs
Right.
01:24:04
Big Dog
Like financial stability, making sure that your, you know, your kid is fed and, you know, progressing on not necessarily to society's standards, but you just want to make sure that he's, he or she is, you know,
01:24:22
Big Dog
getting the best of out of life and and things like that. So, um, yeah, i' want to like I said, on one hand, there's like that level of stress now added or many, but there's also like a lot of opportunities to make memories and, you know, you're raising your flesh and blood, um, to be a productive member of society or at least your best attempt at it. So, um,
01:24:52
Big Dog
It definitely puts a lot of things into perspective of like maybe people, things that people that are, that the matter are most to you might change. Or, you know, if you have a friend that's like,
01:25:06
Big Dog
like violently against the, even the thought of having kids, you know, it's like, do I really need that person in my life? Obviously there are, there are people, a lot of people now who questioning if they should have kids or just not having kids at all. And like,
01:25:23
Big Dog
I'm fine with them to make that decision. um
01:25:29
Big Dog
You know?
01:25:32
Big Dog
But I just want to be... Knowing that I'm doing a good job with him more than anything, as far as like a relationship or anything that I've ever done up to this point, was to make sure that he has the best life possible.
01:25:50
David Isaacs
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
01:25:54
David Isaacs
Yeah, mean, it's at first, you know, kind of having kids. and i have a cousin that is going to have a kid. I wasn't planning on having a kid. And I've kind of had to talk him down from some of this negative talk that he's had as well.
01:26:13
David Isaacs
Um, since it wasn't something that was planned, but, you know, he wasn't really on a ah great path beforehand. So like, you know, it's, it's going to be tough, you know, your patients going to be tested and maybe that's a good thing, but it's up to you at the end of the day that, um,
01:26:31
David Isaacs
for better or worse, this is your, uh, your life now. And it will put things in perspective for you to, you know, kind of ah focus on that.
01:26:44
David Isaacs
And if it keeps you from doing negative things, if it wants you to work more towards ah positive things, then that's a good sign as well. But at the end of the day, you know, you're this, uh, you're the child's dad and, um,
01:27:01
David Isaacs
now that it's happening, you got to do best by them. And that's just what it is. You know, your life's not over. You're, you know, this is me talking to him, you know, not talking to, um, you know, most parents, I feel like don't feel this way, but yeah, things are going change, but that doesn't mean everything has to change, you know, but that's, it becomes more of your, of a priority for you now, you know, whether you like it or not.
01:27:27
David Isaacs
Um, you know, I had had a dad that, left for milk and cigarettes when I was three so never came back so sometimes you don't have to but um I think it'll it'll be better for him and definitely we have it definitely has a lot of good family support around him and You know, we talk all the time about because we basically grew up together, you know, the family that we had and the gatherings and everything. And as you're a kid, you have less worries and you don't worry so much about, know, there's no existential crisis to be made.
01:28:05
David Isaacs
And, you know, how hard is people try to do best and teach their kids good habits and keep them healthy and whatever else? I think, yeah, at the end of the day, just got to be there, show that you care you you know, plan out vacations or parties or whatever for them. And I think that's,
01:28:26
Big Dog
Yeah. on ah As much as I want to like sit here, because on Sunday I'd actually played ah Magic with my friends and that was the first time I'd played in three months. Tried to get together like once a quarter to do that.
01:28:45
Big Dog
A couple days ago was me getting together, but you know I wish I'd be able to do that every day, you know every weekend with them, but It's not in the cards, you know, it's my first opportunity or my first, my first opportunity, like my first duty is to my family and to my, to my wife and to myself. So, um, maybe in the future when my son's older, a little bit more independent, um, maybe that might be, it will be a thing more often, but.
01:29:21
Big Dog
Until that point, day by day, this is how we're taking it. i can't I can't really do that more than once every couple months. So, it is what it is.
01:29:29
David Isaacs
Yeah, it's, I think it's like the Chick-fil-A thing. i only ever want Chick-fil-A on Sundays and I can't have it, you know, but um most other days I don't want it.
01:29:35
Big Dog
Exactly.
01:29:39
David Isaacs
Or, you know, like growing up and talking my cousin and hanging out and eventually we spent too much time together and we ended up hating each other.
Event Planning & Life Changes
01:29:48
David Isaacs
So I feel like there's a little bit of something to do with that or going on bachelor parties and whatnot. And, know,
01:29:56
David Isaacs
you sticking together for so long and getting up for and doing a bunch of stuff like eventually you know oh i need a vacation for my vacation or i just you know need to get i want to go home i become homesick so i think some of those things are uh some people just kind of make it a habit but maybe if you're doing it more often might not be beneficial so who knows but i know what you're getting at too which is um you know Kind of wishing that you had, there's probably some things that you've turned down in the past that you wish you could have attended.
01:30:34
David Isaacs
Just because, yeah, your priorities have changed. Not that you would change you know your life right now or currently, but sometimes it is you know thinking about the that kind of stuff.
01:30:47
Big Dog
Yeah, it definitely makes have to sometimes have a third and fourth backup for something. um You know, in case I need to, like, cancel or, you know.
01:31:00
Big Dog
It's like i have to go through a two-step verification process just to make sure they can have plans. Like, we had to plan that event, like, almost almost three months ago because, you know, if friends have...
01:31:18
Big Dog
i mean, even though they don't have kids, they have their own lives and families and shit going on. So it's like, you know, we had a plan around Comic-Cons, you know, fucking work, work trips and all this. So even, even if you don't have kids, right? Like it's,
01:31:39
Big Dog
it's Trying to get four humans who are in their 30s in the same room for an extended period of time is a challenge. It doesn't matter what doesn't matter if you have kids or not.
01:31:49
David Isaacs
Yeah.
01:31:52
David Isaacs
Right.
01:31:55
Big Dog
know, because you always got the friend, and I've been guilty of this a lot, of just like, it gets to the hour where you have leave, and you're like, I don't feel like it. I'm just going to go to bed. Or, you know... pick up some excuse just not to go for whatever reason, if it was just social anxiety or just didn't feel like it all of a sudden. Like I've been guilty of that several times myself.
01:32:17
David Isaacs
Right. Yeah. Yeah, I get that.
01:32:22
David Isaacs
I'm kind of the opposite, though, since I live kind of far away from people. So always like trying to plan around whatever they got going on and try to be around.
01:32:34
David Isaacs
But I think that kind of comes with going. One of the things growing up is that didn't have too many experiences. Not that, you know, I didn't grow up poor necessarily,
01:32:49
David Isaacs
but a lot of things that we got were around like Christmas, and know, I didn't have an allowance. I don't know anyone that ever did, but I had friends that, you know, a call of duty came out in November, they had it and I'm like, Oh, well, so you got, I'll get it around Christmas, like, and things like that.
01:33:05
David Isaacs
Um, but I, I don't really have too much of an issue spending money on experiences or going out to eat and playing golf or, um Now I got a engagement slash housewarming party coming up this weekend that I'm looking forward to.
01:33:23
David Isaacs
so I kind of just like leave my schedule open just the and make sure I can experience as much as I can because I know eventually it'll come down too people's priorities shifting.
01:33:34
David Isaacs
And, know, once they have kids and their life is going to change, hopefully, you know, for them for the better.
01:33:45
David Isaacs
um but that means you know kind of leaving other people behind or not having as many people over or what have you just because it is a I think it's a ah bigger change that people don't realize so on ah on a much larger scale of starting a garden and kind of how having to ah be responsible for that and take care of it and everything and and you have a ah living human child that needs to eat every few hours or doesn't like to sleep at night or spussy what have you. So, ah yeah, I mean, I definitely might see myself in the future, possibly, maybe, probably not having children. But, um yeah, ah ah that's kind of but like another life thing. if You get a new job and all the things that come with that and the knowledge that you have to gain, you're not going to be exactly good at it.
01:34:43
David Isaacs
right off rip, but you just got to learn and keep powering through it and having a child and having a garden or getting a pet or what have you. But I think it's what keeps us, uh, keeps us going, keeps us fresh, keeps us motivated and keeps the, you know, Brian, uh, brain. No, I said Brian, uh, working.
01:35:05
Big Dog
and think I've ever heard of Brain called Brian. I've been called Brain bunch on emails.
01:35:10
David Isaacs
Yeah. It's the dang auto correct.
01:35:14
Big Dog
Yeah.
01:35:17
David Isaacs
All right. Well, we're at the hour 35 mark, so I pretty much and tapped out my brain, not working very much anymore. i don't know if you have any other closing statements.
01:35:29
Big Dog
No, I am good.
01:35:56
David Isaacs
I feel like we're going to get sick of this music pretty quickly.