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431 — The Grill Next Door
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Ty & Eric discuss the masculine urge to prepare excessive camping meals, getting a non-consensual Subway sandwich, eating banh mi al fresco, Outdoor Boys finally returning indoors, entering enemy crow territory, taking bae on a date to Subway, patio-side Korean BBQ, and where they side in the butane / propane conflict.
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Transcript
Introduction and Subway Dash
00:00:50
Think Fresh
Breadheads, breadheads, breadheads, Ty and Eric back in the booth in the toaster oven today. Scorcher, a sizzler. monur no bread Ty, you last we finished off, you were sprinting out of my car, yanking the audio cable out.
00:01:08
Think Fresh
Thank God our audio did not delete itself. Yoink. Yoink. you are I'm happy that the Breadheads got to experience that, because you made the train. I caught the train. You caught the last subway out of here. Choo-choo.
00:01:20
Think Fresh
That's right, baby.
Recording in a Warm Car and Patio Dining
00:01:21
Think Fresh
That was a pretty funny Patreon-exclusive-style episode that we recorded last time. But we're back to our kind of standard issue, evergreen spinach.
00:01:31
Think Fresh
ride evergreen and yellow dude yeah we are we are so back but we're cooking in this car right now it is like 25 degrees here and beautiful beautiful british columbia um it was so nice in fact that i had dinner on my patio for the first time this season oh wow a little patio dining experience al fresco al fresco that's right what what do we do what are we doing on the patio you just you dine out there you got a little barbecue action fucking mailed it brother oh tell me more dude this time of year i go for a walk and all i do is smell the barbecues in my neighborhood yeah the grilling happening it just like activates me in a way that no other aroma does like it's crazier than the subway bread when you get that hint of barbecue mixed with like but fresh flowers of springtime ayayay
00:02:19
Think Fresh
But unlike Subway, which is always, always, always a great smell, sometimes barbecue, people don't clean off the grill properly. what mean? They don't scrape the crumbs off. So it just smells burnt like shit.
00:02:31
Think Fresh
And yeah, you never really know what you're going to get. Sometimes they're grilling some fish that's gone awry. Yeah, we don't want that. People shouldn't barbecue fish. Like the Branzino over the open flame, I get that.
00:02:43
Think Fresh
But people not like what do you, okay, maybe down under if you're going to do the classic shrimp on the ball, I'll be like, there's some exceptions, but generally I avoid it at all costs.
00:02:53
Think Fresh
Yeah, no, I totally understand. um You just got to know how to do it right. We've got two customers.
Subway Observations and Korean BBQ
00:03:00
Think Fresh
Yep, that's right. We are posted outside Subway as per usual in the hopes that it will stimulate some conversation topics. ya Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try not to make eye contact with these customers.
00:03:10
Think Fresh
Yeah, these are two scary looking customers. i would I would definitely give them extra cheese. I think we should start the engine just in case they address us. Oh no, you're good. They're on their way. But Ty, I did have nice little barbecue on my patio.
00:03:22
Think Fresh
and I've been inspired by my neighbors who always grill with when my windows are open. in Hell yeah. and So I was like, you know fuck, I'm doing it today too. So I had a portable little like hot plate kind of situation. Something like Snow Peak stuff?
00:03:36
Think Fresh
Pretty much, but off brand. Okay. um Butane stove fit perfectly on my tiny little... French chic table. Yeah. Yeah. this is Ikea set. Paris, France meets Paris, Texas. Kind of. ah Oh, 1000%. Hell yeah. do I'm grilling oxtail.
00:03:54
Think Fresh
Inspired by the grill next door. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. That's a great title. That is. We'll probably use that. If you're reading this. We used it.
00:04:06
Think Fresh
But anyways, we grilled up some Korean barbecue, had a little pork belly action. They put together all little little side dishes, which I love so much. We got kimchi, some lettuce with ah peanut miso dressing. This is a multi-course affair. oh yeah. You're not joking around here. I'm not joking, bro. We got...
00:04:24
Think Fresh
What else? Little personal size rice bowls for each of us. A little bit of minced garlic, green onion, sesame oil, sesamese. What else?
00:04:35
Think Fresh
that's Oh, some cabbage, onion. Wow,
Butane vs. Propane Debate
00:04:38
Think Fresh
that's ah many dishes. Yeah, that's the Korean style. You always over order in Korea because you don't anticipate the 17 dishes they're going to bring in addition to what you order. So for the breadheads out there, start small.
00:04:50
Think Fresh
Yeah, start with a nappy and go from there. You can always add on. Wow, that sounds great. And you're rocking the butane. I appreciate that. I'm team butane over propane. Yeah, you're a butane beauty yourself, Ty. That's true. Yeah. yeah But a hard to butane me.
00:05:08
Think Fresh
But ah I just feel like propane... is just a paint propane in the ass you know you not a propane no i'm not a propologist of the propane usage i find that the canisters are too bulky the screw on attachment is never that seamless yeah and you can never tell when they're empty yeah but butane it burns clean the canisters are small like i feel like you could pack a a butane stove like in a backpack but or like you can carry them like little briefcases to
Backpacking Gear and Beer Logistics
00:05:40
Think Fresh
a business function which is kind of cool idea my stove comes in a briefcase there you go i just think that's so cool uh but propane is like it's cool it's like gargantuous like incestual looking blue collar objects you know yeah no you're totally right they um they're very heavy um hard to put in the backpack if you're going camping and um
00:06:01
Think Fresh
Yeah, you're totally right about all that stuff, dude. I don't like the name Coleman either. No, it's gotta to go. It's gotta go. Yeah, it's on the do not name list for 2026. Totally. But yeah, butane is great.
00:06:13
Think Fresh
um I also bought a tiny little Snow Peak portable stove, ultra light. It only weighs like six grams. Six grams? Damn. And it's got one of those tiny little MSR, I think it's also a butane little stove. and It's like...
00:06:29
Think Fresh
30 grams worth or something it's tiny bro but perfect for making a cup of uh instant coffee on the trail you know i mean yeah for sure sometimes you just need to pull a shot of espresso on a mountain peak i always get that as soon as you as soon as i uh summit the hill i'm like i need some pick me up for the walk, for the pick me down. I need some dehydrated curry right now. So bad.
00:06:53
Think Fresh
but Once you hit the peak of a mountain, you're like, I can finally now have some Duretics and dehydrate my body because i I'm on the home stretch. little On the way up, you're pre-hydrating, you're yeah you're making sure you get your electrolytes. Then once you're there, you're like, crack a beer, have a shot of espresso, eat something salty.
00:07:12
Think Fresh
One thing I got to figure out, Ty, because I'm i pretty dialed in my backpacking equipment right now. I blew a bag at NEC the other day, which is the Canadian version of REI for the American Breadheads. yeah um I need to figure out a way to bring cold beer to a mountaintop without absolutely sewering my back. this is yeah cause like The guy who figures this one out is going to make a killing on Shark Tank. Totally. Because there's nothing I want more than an ice-cold Sapporo when I get to the top.
00:07:39
Think Fresh
um But I can't you know carry like four tall boys that's so heavy it's insane yeah and i can't bring the if i do bring that it's gonna get warm so what do i do ty i can't bring a cooler it's just way too much the beer needs to be cold and needs to be good because you can imagine like someone's probably done dehydrated lager and you like rehydrate out the top with a life straw and it probably tastes terrible dude that powdered pilsner does not hit the same It's just it's not happening.
00:08:09
Think Fresh
So the only way I think is to have enough money to hire another human to can't pack it for you, a pack mule, animal or other. Bro, what if you brought barley, yeast, and then you filtered water from the closest river?
00:08:23
Think Fresh
And you just need ah made a fucking brew. fresh pint on the spot. You brewed your own pint. That's the true camping spirit. I know nothing about this like ah like level one mixology. You know, first wave mixology, if you will, actually making the alcohol. So I don't know if you can do it as like overnight oats.
00:08:40
Think Fresh
I don't think it's like that, dude. I don't think it's overnight barley, but maybe. i mean, say you need a week. How how like amazing would that shit taste after a week of sleeping in the woods?
00:08:51
Think Fresh
Hell yeah. dude That would taste so good. I one time tried to make beer under my sink when I was in college and I didn't really read the instructions. I just kind of mixed it all together, stuck it under there, waited a few weeks and it came out and It tasted like strawberries.
00:09:06
Think Fresh
i don't think it I don't think it was supposed to. I think your beer's not supposed to be fruity. It's kind of hard to get the chemical balance correct. Right. So you weren't trying to make a peach strawberry sour. No, I was trying to make a classic lager.
00:09:18
Think Fresh
But you got to think about the salt, fat, acid, heat, I guess. I guess so. You had to dial in the ingredients. Yeah. wow So it's tougher than you think. But yeah, honestly, this is a good use of like the optimist style, like humanoid robotics because they can walk behind you on a hiking trail and they can haul like 248 packs.
00:09:35
Think Fresh
Yeah, totally. I got the Arc'teryx like artificial limbs. you know Did Arc'teryx make some? They made like a fake
Replicating Home-Cooked Meals While Camping
00:09:44
Think Fresh
knee that you can wear. Basically, it's like a joint that like attaches to your pants.
00:09:48
Think Fresh
I don't know how the fuck it actually helps, but apparently it helps you go downhill. Yo, I've heard about these things, but ah only in the context of like tourist companies in China renting them to people who don't hike so that they can summit a mountain.
00:10:01
Think Fresh
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. kind of cool idea. I mentioned that, but like the Arcteryx fake jaw so that you can handle like a bunch of like food, you know?
00:10:13
Think Fresh
Chomp, chomp, chomp. Just clear. You can clear so many footlongs. Yeah, dude. Who needs mewing when you got the Gore-Tex jawline? That's crazy. Yeah, Johnny Chestnut is getting...
00:10:24
Think Fresh
kicked out of the competition because of his artificial jaw. The jaws of life. The jaws of life. Cutting through steel that thing. No kidding. But dude, camping food is hilarious to me because like people will like eat all kinds of space food and stuff like that. But I've realized that what makes you a good camper or hiker or backpacker is be able to replicate home as best as possible in the most remote locations. Completely agree. Take no shortcuts.
00:10:53
Think Fresh
Exactly. So if you're able to like cook a steak dinner with like roasted potatoes and asparagus while like you don't have cell service like that's that's like hardcore peak camping you know i mean 100 i think the idea though is it's kind of like any like ah like a cirque de soleil performance or a magician where you do an excessive amount of training for just like a really short moment but the payoff is how seamless you can do it you know you think about every single you've already like chopped the
00:11:25
Think Fresh
Onion four times before you even got to the mountain peak, you know, you've thought about how you're gonna wash the cutting board What knife you're gonna pack how you're gonna like keep the knife in your bag so that it doesn't Cut anything else up.
00:11:38
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Not only have you thought about how to cook but you thought about every single possible Scenario that you could ever encounter you know, mean that and like if one person in your group Say you're like, you need some some firewood, right?
00:11:52
Think Fresh
Everyone's lost. Everyone's like, oh fuck, what do we do guys? And one person pulls out a hatchet, that person's gonna be prom queen for the rest of the what's the
Admiring Outdoor Survival Skills
00:12:00
Think Fresh
trip. You know what mean? You're your' star of the show. oh yeah You're the one who thought to bring a hatchet? Wow.
00:12:04
Think Fresh
Everyone's gawking at you, it's crazy. They're like, damn hatchet, you got hatchet in there? Well that's the thing too, especially if you can pack it real light. yeah this ah It's kind of like when a magician pulls a dub out of their hat, but it's you a hatchet out of your hat. Yeah, totally. Hatchet.
00:12:19
Think Fresh
Yeah, that's such a good feeling. Couldn't be me though. i qui I used to be like that with camping, but now I like to prep all my food. like I think the art of the prep is goes a long way as far as delivering a seamless cooking experience on on the campsite. So I'll like, I will pre-cook my egg. oh I've seen that. Pre-fry it. You can freeze it too? or freeze it Yeah, you can like pre-chop your vegetables and put them into different containers. So you've quickly assembled your your medley.
00:12:49
Think Fresh
The only, i mean, you're very smart to do this, but the only pushback is the prep is I think even more impressive than the cook. You what I mean? like if you're, if you're chopping carrots by the fire, like you've, you've won at life.
00:13:02
Think Fresh
yeah that's true. That's a, it's a nice show you get to put on for the rest of your guests. It comes down to optics though, Eric. Because if you're just like squeegeeing your legs together, you got a cutting board sitting on your lap, little tiny knife, and you're operating by headlamp trying to cut a character, while everyone else is just like crushing beers and having fun, you look like an idiot. like You're just like, dude, why are you so committed to... Like you have to pull it off seamlessly and you have to pull it off quickly. like It was effortless.
00:13:31
Think Fresh
has them don't Don't let them bully you, tie You got to let them know like, you're the hero yeah i'm the one chopping the carrots it wasn't for me you guys would be eating fucking just add water type of food you know what i mean dude nothing says i know what i'm doing like having to keep standing up and move your lap cutting board because you're getting smoke in your eyes you know like it just doesn't work oh dude um I've been also going down a deep, deep rabbit hole of camping shit.
00:14:01
Think Fresh
And I've just recently discovered the Outdoor Boys YouTube channel. Are you familiar with Luke from the Outdoor Boys? ah No, I can't say I follow any other men on it.
00:14:12
Think Fresh
Well, yeah, that'd be extremely gay. um I follow Luke and shout out to Luke. You're listening. and Yeah. I only found out about him because he retired like two weeks ago from YouTube. Oh, I did hear about this dude. Yeah. Kind of a gawky father.
00:14:27
Think Fresh
yeah got more popular Yeah. There you go. I went so deep in the rabbit hole. I found out he was Mormon. um But yeah, he gets like 10 to 10. 50 million views per video.
00:14:38
Think Fresh
Wow. And just like builds a shelter out of like firewood and like does the whole thing. Like camps in like minus 20 degrees Fahrenheit weather, builds a hot tent out of nothing, like to that type of shit. Bear grill next door type of thing. Goddamn. Thanks for reminding me so we can remember to write that down later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:59
Think Fresh
But yeah, he, yeah, he's pretty inspirational, man. He he builds his own equipment and shit. So i'm just like, I'm just excited ah excited to get out on the trail and chop down some trees, bro.
00:15:09
Think Fresh
I'm the opposite of a tree hugger.
Subway Date Frustrations
00:15:11
Think Fresh
Dude, straight up, like if you really want to show your fellow campers and hikers who's the alpha male in the pack you need to actually just embody your hunter gatherer instincts you can't prep food nor can you prepare it on site you need to don't bring any anything just go go find some berries or kill a rabbit that's what he does he doesn't bring anything with them amazing he's raw dogging his camp yeah he'll shoot like some random bird and like gut it and cook it on a fire like that guy's fucking awesome dude
00:15:41
Think Fresh
wow Or he'll like catch some fish and have this amazing like fish dinner. Yeah, it's truly inspirational. Huh. That is next level. That's kind of how I feel, though, when I order the veggie patty at Subway. You know?
00:15:55
Think Fresh
Yeah, it's too easy to get the chicken. yeah I didn't even cut the cut its head off myself. You have challenge yourself a little bit. Totally. Oh, man. It makes me want to get a knife and a gun. Was that was that weird? No, I think that's cool.
00:16:07
Think Fresh
and um'm Just use them safely. Yeah, true. Only kill other animals, no humans. Yeah, that's right. I've been dining al fresco a little bit too these days, Eric. I didn't eat on my... Actually, i did have a few patio meals this week, but most notably, I took my girl on a date and I took her to Subway.
00:16:25
Think Fresh
Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. we went Well, we we went to Subway, not to dine a Subway, but takeaway, and then we had it in a park. I thought that would be both romantic and novel. Dates at Subway can only end one way, Ty.
00:16:37
Think Fresh
Which way? you get lucky or unlucky? And by lucky, I mean you didn't have chronic stomach pain. It was quite an unlucky experience, Eric. I've never been so like unseen by a sandwich artist.
00:16:49
Think Fresh
This guy was like, he didn't ask Bae if she wanted it toasted. He just toasted it, which is fine. That's what she wanted. Non-consensual toast. It was a non-consensual toasting. And we both like looked at each other like, don't you know the line?
00:17:04
Think Fresh
The line is cheese and toasted. Also, it's 25 degrees outside. um i want a cold sandwich. Yeah, maybe you want a cold sandwich. And then the fucking guy, when it was my footlong's turn, he just layered the cheese on. He didn't ask.
00:17:18
Think Fresh
So he clearly is, I don't know if he's mute or he just didn't, he skipped this class of sandwich university. But there's like, there's very few customer interactions the dude has to do. And he didn't acknowledge any of the kind of like,
00:17:32
Think Fresh
I don't know, expectations I had. It's just pure, like selfishness, Ty, because like, especially if you're ordering a Veggie Delight or a Veggie Patty, you are most likely vegetarian or but vegan.
00:17:45
Think Fresh
So he should definitely ask you if you want cheese. It's worth just a second guess. Yeah. Like if I ordered a BMT, like fuck it, throw a cheese on there. it's the what Like I'm not going to, you know, pick and choose my battle. I'm just going to take it all.
00:17:58
Think Fresh
And dude, when we got to the veggie department, he was so nonchalant. Like every time I'd ask for a veggie, he wouldn't like delicately place them. just kind of like throw them in the air like confetti, you know, and just like sometimes they'd land on the sandwich. I kind of like that.
00:18:12
Think Fresh
It was so like all over the place. I kind of like that. all Yeah, you're okay with that? A little salt-based sprinkle
Footlong Banh Mi Appreciation
00:18:18
Think Fresh
of tomato? Yeah, may the chips fall where they land. I guess so. I don't know. I found it disrespectful.
00:18:25
Think Fresh
Fair enough. He made it right on sandwich. I would feel a way as well, actually. Yeah, yeah. This isn't a rapper in a music video throwing money. Yeah. Ty, I also ate a sandwich of 12 inches in length you d in a park.
00:18:37
Think Fresh
Was it of of type Subway or type Other? No, it was similar, but it was banh mi. Oh, nice. Footlong banh mi. Footlong banh I've been dabbling in the footlong banh mi lately. It's a lot of bread.
00:18:50
Think Fresh
It's a lot of bread, but it's the best kind of bread because the French people colonized a communist country and then gave them the best thing they ever came up with, which is the baguette. It's true. It's their greatest... It's like baguette and then LVMH group are the two greatest exports of France.
00:19:05
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude. Escargot is like number 39 on that list. Yeah, totally. But yeah, the baguette is... What an amazing thing. Like kudos to the Vietnamese community for embracing. Yeah. Being accepting of that type of gentrification. they're like, oh, this is good gentrification. Yeah, we'll take it. Yeah. This genuinely improves our offering. So let's just go ahead and keep doing that. Yeah.
Encounter with Crows
00:19:26
Think Fresh
The French did a lot of damage to the Vietnamese people, but maybe we call it even. Yeah. They ran them out of there, but they were like, you know what? Leave the baguettes behind. you fuck. Respect. ah respect Yeah, gotta respect that.
00:19:39
Think Fresh
Just secure the bread like that. Yeah. So you ate the sandwich outside? Is that what happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a crow staring at me the entire meal. ah Not in a threatening way, more like it a he knew his place and when I was going to be done there, he would pick up the scraps.
00:19:54
Think Fresh
Yeah, but fair enough. So he was just kind of like stalking you. Was he pursed high above eye level or was he kind of standing there like a pigeon, like walking towards you? Pigeon vibes. Really? Beta crow.
00:20:07
Think Fresh
Cut crow. Oh shit. That's not that's not good. Can't have it. crows Crows are a dominant breed of birds. So when you see one acting in such a like submissive way, it's kind of alarming. You're like, are we friends?
00:20:22
Think Fresh
Well, crows have a great memory tie. That's what I hear. So if you disrespect one or, you know, attack one, mess with their family, then they will remember your face and they will track you down. They'll dive bomb you. This is a known phenomenon in the city. I've heard this too.
00:20:38
Think Fresh
it's ah It's very interesting that other animals can have vendettas like that. It's pretty funny. Yeah, totally. That's not a like ah uniquely human trait to hate and want revenge.
00:20:50
Think Fresh
A crow dive bombing you is like, it's such a like 1960s, like biker style, like harassment, you know, and they just like drive around you in a circle, like yelling profanities at you.
00:21:01
Think Fresh
Yeah. You're just being like encircled by the hell's angels. Totally. But like the crow is doing it from like the vertical plane instead. They're just thugs. They're just a gang of thugs. Hell yeah, dude.
00:21:13
Think Fresh
They also, they have their own little hell's angels hangout in Burnaby. Are you familiar with that? The crows? The crows. Oh, i've been to I've been to their perch. I taught Bay how to drive there. so you you you went into enemy territory? Yeah. they're They're usually okay. If you're hanging out in the crow territory, they'll keep an eye on you. you Keep a distance.
00:21:32
Think Fresh
They won't. They'll let you do your thing. Interesting. So if you just walk through, because it is like a bit of a sanctuary, you know, they're breeding, there're they're getting their freak on. i forgot that ah yeah The freak off is happening. for sure Crows are not afraid of the bush, turns out. Yeah, dude, if you go up and you shake their bush, you'll probably hell to pay for sure. Oh, that's not a good move for sure. No, but if you mind your own business, you can get in and out.
00:21:56
Think Fresh
i think we should throw a grenade in there. I think all crows should die. We don't know what good they're doing for society. Yeah, I know. Like, do they catch worms even? I've never seen a crow with a worm and its mouth.
00:22:07
Think Fresh
The only thing I ever see a crow eating is like a plastic bag. That's true. That's why they hang out mostly Burnaby. People like the litter out there, guess. I guess so. Maybe that's what they're good for. The crows and the gulls are like, are kind of nature's garbage disposal.
00:22:22
Think Fresh
Yeah, they're creating their own garbage patch somewhere. Yeah. Interesting They turn white plastic bags into white shit on the ground. Mm-hmm. They like to build tree houses or tree, what are they called? Nest?
00:22:36
Think Fresh
mess I think they call them nests, Eric. bird's nest. Yeah, a perch. In the trees over by my building. And again, Ty, this is another reason I want to get a gun, just so I can snipe them from my living room.
00:22:48
Think Fresh
I would love to do Honey, dinner's ready. That's great. You could probably just hit him with a little BB gun just for practice. Mm-hmm. In my old building, somebody was shooting people with me out of the window. People?
00:23:02
Think Fresh
i think homeless people, which is like really horrible. um And the police came and it looked like a hausage hostage situation in my building, Ty.
BB Gun Incident
00:23:12
Think Fresh
um I was worried that if I tried to leave, i would be arrested.
00:23:17
Think Fresh
So the police had the door of the BB gun assailant surrounded. They had to kick it down, SWAT team moving in. Yep. Cop cars surrounding my building, all exits covered off.
00:23:31
Think Fresh
Yeah, I guess you don't know if it's a real gun or not. Yeah, active shooter. Yeah, until you nurk him. What the hell was that? What was that? I don't know. Something just floated in the window. I think it was a feather. you want to grab it?
00:23:43
Think Fresh
No, it was a feather. Dude, wait a minute. Do you think this is a sign? This is the only episode we've ever talked about birds. and A bird feather just floated in. i think we gotta get the fuck out of here. It's almost like they're sending us a warning. Like, don't talk shit.
00:23:57
Think Fresh
How the fuck you do that? I don't know, dude. That was kind of freaky. That was weird feather. um It's that time of the year, Ty. Fluffy shit is flying out of the sky.
00:24:08
Think Fresh
Birds are shitting on my car. Everyone be sneezing. People be sneezing, bro. Driving nuts. That's why we can't have offices. yeah Too many people are sneezing. I sneezed on everywhere these days. went to the grocery store last night emily like I was about to take a can of chickpeas off the shelf and then the woman near me sneezed all over the chickpeas.
00:24:30
Think Fresh
guess I'm eating beans tonight.
Wrap Up and Seasonal Allergies
00:24:32
Think Fresh
ah Garbanzos are out this week. Well... Garbanzas are out. Think Fresh is in Thanks for listening, everybody.
00:24:42
Think Fresh
yeah think it's time to grab a cold one. Dude, I need a cold shower. red i was thinking a cold six inch. Anyways, breadheads, thanks for listening. Talk to you later.