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439 — Magic Mike's Way
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Ty & Eric discuss the contradiction of Translink’s craft beer drop, the tasting notes of the iconic Subway smell, speed running a negroni, uncovering the essence of coolness, buying Redbull over the counter, and getting too close with magicians.
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Transcript
Introduction and Setting the Tone
00:00:50
Think Fresh
Yo ho, what's going on breadheads?
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Think Fresh
Ty in the building, Eric in the building. We got two beers. Ready? Catch. Oh, let's go.
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Ty Fresh
ah you
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Ty Fresh
and crack wow these these warmed up fast oh yeah oh dude that was an explosive cracking whoo performative this guy's a performative beer drinker
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Think Fresh
Oh yeah, baby.
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Think Fresh
some
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Ty Fresh
time
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Think Fresh
There's nothing theatrical about drinking a pale ale on mic.
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Ty Fresh
yeah
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Ty Fresh
Cheers, brother.
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Think Fresh
Cheers. Cheers.
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Ty Fresh
Yes, ah we are back in the booth.
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Think Fresh
Yes, we are back in booth.
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Ty Fresh
Ty and Eric, we have a couple of guests on this episode.
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Think Fresh
We have a couple of guests on this episode.
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Ty Fresh
It's two hazy pale ales.
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Think Fresh
It's too crazy. This appears there's always a statement on this podcast because we're drinking the room for thinking of the crash.
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Ty Fresh
Beers are always a segment on this podcast because we're drinking them. We're thinking them. They're fresh. They're cool.
Transit-Inspired Craft Beer
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Ty Fresh
Eric, we haven't talked about this yet, but Vancouver's Transit System, otherwise known as TransLink, is
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Think Fresh
Eric, we haven't talked about this yet, but Vancouver's transit system, otherwise it's a clans leak.
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Ty Fresh
They did a beer drop this week.
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Think Fresh
They did a beer.
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Think Fresh
A special canning?
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Ty Fresh
Yeah. They're the only type of commuting organization that's allowed to advocate for drinking because you're not the one driving the train.
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Think Fresh
organization that's allowed ah because you're not Right.
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Ty Fresh
So they're like, get absolutely messed up.
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Think Fresh
they're like get absolutely mess
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Ty Fresh
Just have as many as you want.
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Think Fresh
does many
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Think Fresh
Yeah. I mean, that's actually an interesting thing. Like, why don't more car companies advertise their 0% beers? beers
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Ty Fresh
yeah
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Ty Fresh
Oh, dude, I think that the car industry is behind Big Matcha.
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Think Fresh
think that the card like i think there
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Ty Fresh
Like, I think they're the reason it's popping off right now because they're like, we got to find a new thing for people to go pick up and drink that isn't an IPA.
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Think Fresh
like we got find
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Ty Fresh
think for example,
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Think Fresh
I think it's all of Red Bull. Like Red Bull has kind of cornered the vehicle kind of performance racing like era.
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Ty Fresh
Red is vehicle performance racing era. That's a really good point because Red Bull is all about, like, going places fast.
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Think Fresh
You what mean?
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Think Fresh
yeah
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Ty Fresh
With your like...
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Think Fresh
With your eyes like super wide open.
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Ty Fresh
Yeah.
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Think Fresh
Yeah.
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Ty Fresh
Like at this point, Red Bull is the closest, like above the counter, like option ah besides like cocaine, you know, it's, it's the fluid equivalent.
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Think Fresh
and this foot in full
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Think Fresh
above
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Think Fresh
Yeah, no, you're totally right.
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Ty Fresh
Yeah.
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Ty Fresh
But I think like has their like grow
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Think Fresh
um But I think like Heineken has their like zero
Beer Marketing and Missed Opportunities
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Think Fresh
beer and I think they advertise on like F1 races.
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Ty Fresh
beer.
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Ty Fresh
Hmm. Yeah.
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Think Fresh
So like all over F1, it's like don't drink and drive drink Heineken zero.
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Ty Fresh
so like
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Think Fresh
Yeah.
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Ty Fresh
Dude, that's insane. You're like on the like in the the crew cam or in the driver's seat camera and your F1 driver is just drinking a Heineken out of a glass bottle while he rips around the track.
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Think Fresh
like
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Think Fresh
one yeah
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Think Fresh
Yeah, he's got the bladder behind him with the straw coming up through ah his jacket.
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Ty Fresh
body
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Ty Fresh
Yeah.
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Think Fresh
Nice.
00:03:25
Ty Fresh
Wow. Well, the TransLink beer, it's called the Platform Pilsner.
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Think Fresh
Well, the trans line here is called the Black Billsman.
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Ty Fresh
And it's a collaboration with a local craft brewery.
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Think Fresh
It's a collaboration local cap for the open market.
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Ty Fresh
I don't remember.
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Think Fresh
Who cares?
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Ty Fresh
Patina. That's the one. Who cares? Most opportunities.
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Think Fresh
I missed opportunity to call it the Rail Ale.
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Ty Fresh
The rail, that's good.
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Think Fresh
Rail, that's good.
Drinking Policies on Public Transit
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Think Fresh
Thank you.
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Ty Fresh
ah Yeah, the train. Not as good as you. Allowed?
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Think Fresh
um Yeah, let's see. Can we think of an acronym for IPA?
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Ty Fresh
come
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Think Fresh
What about Indian people ah above? Get
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Ty Fresh
allowed
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Think Fresh
get it? Because they ride on top of the train.
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Ty Fresh
Oh, I get it.
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Think Fresh
I guess.
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Ty Fresh
I've seen a few of those videos come coming out of India these days.
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Think Fresh
I see it.
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Ty Fresh
That's insane.
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Think Fresh
Let's see.
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Think Fresh
The travel stages on trains that are going to be different.
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Ty Fresh
The travel standards on trains in other countries are totally different.
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Ty Fresh
Yeah, they're not going to let
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Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, dude, all I want to do is crack a window and smoke a cig on the ah Millennium line, but I just can't do You know what mean?
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Ty Fresh
Transit police would curb stomp you tracks. Yeah.
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Think Fresh
they don't They don't really tolerate that stuff.
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Ty Fresh
trans in place which like curbs stomp you on the track
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Think Fresh
Yeah, it's kind of weird, though, that they launch this beer now because i also heard there was a spike in fare checking on the train. So, like, I'm curious, you're pro transit.
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Think Fresh
Do you see them checking tickets often? like like how Like, what percentage would you say?
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Ty Fresh
like
Humorous Drinking Anecdotes
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Think Fresh
i
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Ty Fresh
I'm going to go and say that this is all fake news.
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Ty Fresh
I think that they're fear mongering in so that people pay for their tickets. I don't see us any boots on the ground here.
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Think Fresh
Oh shit,
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Ty Fresh
This is all airstrikes.
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Think Fresh
all there oh shit okay.
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Ty Fresh
There's no there's no soldiers.
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Think Fresh
Right. Simply drone.
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Ty Fresh
yeah
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Think Fresh
Drone play.
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Ty Fresh
It's it's drone play.
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Think Fresh
Wow.
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Ty Fresh
did i before Okay, before this episode started, i was waiting for you to hop in the booth.
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Think Fresh
before Okay, before this episode started, I you talk to the booth.
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Ty Fresh
So I went to a bar downstairs and drank in a Negroni on happy hour.
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Think Fresh
went bar downstairs had a PR for a
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Ty Fresh
I hit a PR for fastest time to consume it and a Negroni. I think I did it in 11 minutes. And I'm totally geeked right now.
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Think Fresh
wow worry
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Ty Fresh
So when you tell me to do things like, give me but tell me what IPA stands for.
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Think Fresh
you me but tell me what
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Ty Fresh
Cognitively, I'm not in a position to help you figure that one out.
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Think Fresh
positively ten
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Ty Fresh
Yeah.
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Think Fresh
Yeah, this stealing O'Kasey pale ale is not helping either.
00:05:34
Ty Fresh
You're going have to throw me some more lowball questions if you want to get through this episode with me.
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Think Fresh
be real Okay, how many ah fingers am I holding up right now?
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Ty Fresh
79. Is
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Think Fresh
Is that a Love Island reference?
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Ty Fresh
is it? You tell me. way. You're such a Love Island junkie.
00:05:47
Think Fresh
On the like one of the last episodes, he's like, well how many fingers have been holding up?
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Ty Fresh
It's crazy.
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Think Fresh
And he held up four. And she's like, seven. No way.
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Ty Fresh
no way
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Think Fresh
It was a joke. But you know.
00:05:55
Ty Fresh
such a love island junkie
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Think Fresh
Anyways. yeah Yeah, dude. But anyways, TransLink beer. How fucking dare they? crazy.
00:06:03
Ty Fresh
crazy
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Think Fresh
Because I've been ticketed for drinking on the SkyTrain.
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Ty Fresh
i you
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Think Fresh
Yeah. yeah
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Ty Fresh
yeah i
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Think Fresh
And like, what the fuck, guys? Like, if you're going launch a beer, like, let me at least fucking crack a few on my way to work or away home.
00:06:13
Ty Fresh
it should be the exception for sure like i as well have had to pour it out pour one out for the good the good police of the transit companies
00:06:15
Think Fresh
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:17
Think Fresh
four one the good police damn yeah uh when was yours because mine was on the way to the annual vancouver fireworks festivities when i was in high school luckily didn't get pinned for underage drinking for me it's happened a few times if was on the of the bus yeah damn usually those are pretty good because you can kind of hide
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Ty Fresh
e
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Ty Fresh
For me, it's happened a few times. It's always on the back of a bus, usually around 11 p.m.
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Think Fresh
like If you're sitting in the back, right, you're unless it's like the communal kind of like conversation pit bus, then you have like the seat in front of you to hide behind.
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Ty Fresh
You'd think.
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Ty Fresh
not like
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Think Fresh
But on the SkyTrain, like, think you're more exposed.
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Ty Fresh
you' think
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Ty Fresh
Oh yeah.
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Think Fresh
Oh, yeah.
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Ty Fresh
The bus has got some like nooks and crannies.
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Think Fresh
The bus is passing like notes and cranes.
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Ty Fresh
You can tuck a pale ale or a pilsner in.
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Think Fresh
You can pop PLL or a paper.
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Ty Fresh
theirre in
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Think Fresh
Right.
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Think Fresh
Or a crack pipe. Yeah, I have them open.
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Ty Fresh
i actually have them.
00:07:01
Ty Fresh
Yeah. I have them all memorized. Usually it's the seating.
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Think Fresh
usually
00:07:05
Ty Fresh
your Your best seating position on a bus is when your seat is right beside the wheel well, because they have to add all these weird quirky curves to the shell of the bus that create pockets.
00:07:07
Think Fresh
who they have to add all these key the shell of the Yeah.
00:07:16
Ty Fresh
You can keep your alcohol in. Oh, he hot tip.
00:07:18
Think Fresh
Oh, interesting. That's kind of cool. Maybe a better seat on the bus for drinking is the driver's seat. I think that's the second best spot.
00:07:26
Ty Fresh
dude, we don't think the police are checking the driver's seat on the bus.
00:07:29
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:07:30
Ty Fresh
Yeah, have to live certain number of weeks.
00:07:30
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude. They have to live up to a certain code.
00:07:33
Ty Fresh
Exactly.
00:07:34
Think Fresh
Wow.
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Ty Fresh
They're getting away with a lot
Magic Tricks and Distrust of Performers
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Ty Fresh
over there.
00:07:36
Think Fresh
Yeah, absolutely.
00:07:37
Ty Fresh
absolutely. I remember one the parents' factoring, and there's bunch of guys who came to that, they, like, kind of motioned to get my attention.
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Think Fresh
Dude, I remember once being on the SkyTrain and bunch of guys were drinking and then they like kind of motioned to get my attention. he's like, hey, do you want to know how to drink on the SkyTrain?
00:07:46
Ty Fresh
He's like, hey, you to know about the tree called factoring, he's like, this is what for the first you look.
00:07:49
Think Fresh
He's like, this is what you do. First, you look. And then he like cranes his neck around in every direction.
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Ty Fresh
And he, like,
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Think Fresh
And then you crack a beer. And then just cracks one. I remember distinctly we were at Columbia Station when that happened.
00:08:01
Ty Fresh
does i smell great advice really wise the thing though with the crack is that you can hear and recognize the crack from it's like on the richter scale you can yeah you pick that thing up from kilometer away you can be one station over and you hear a guy cracking in a can appear
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Think Fresh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Think Fresh
like
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Think Fresh
yeah and ah clo if i want this Yeah, it's the grown-up version of like bringing out gum in class.
00:08:23
Think Fresh
Everyone's like, can I have a beer?
00:08:23
Ty Fresh
one looks do you want any more you're absolutely right i and i i've offered and accepted beers from strangers in the back of the bus back of the train don't see any time yeah if it's sealed a time of gifting i'm not worried about it i'll take it
00:08:27
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude.
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Think Fresh
I don't see any issue with that as long as it's open, open for you. yeah Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. yeah exactly exactly
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Ty Fresh
Cause like, what are the odds that are gonna like do do something to mess it up?
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Think Fresh
like one of the
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Ty Fresh
You know, if they gave me a half open beer or a half drank beer, I would be a little bit more hesitant.
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Think Fresh
the the
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Think Fresh
yeah oh there was
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Ty Fresh
Or if they were just trying to mix me a cocktail with their, making some Borg on the back.
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Think Fresh
yeah
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Think Fresh
I watched the magic trick the other day where a guy took a can of beer and opened it and then poured it out and it was soda. ah Can you explain that to me? I have no idea.
00:09:06
Ty Fresh
Dude, I have no idea, but. Whoever is doing that could make a killing at like Coachella.
00:09:10
Think Fresh
Whoever is doing that could make killing ad like
00:09:13
Ty Fresh
you know Just get in there, manifest spawn a bunch of alcohol, and just sell it.
00:09:14
Think Fresh
um just get of and then just sell it. Yeah.
00:09:19
Ty Fresh
Yeah. I'm like, did this position?
00:09:20
Think Fresh
I'm like, did this magician like can his own drink?
00:09:24
Ty Fresh
Just to mess with you?
00:09:24
Think Fresh
Just to mess with you?
00:09:25
Think Fresh
Just to like, for the bit, you know? Like ah Nathan Fielder type of episode.
00:09:25
Ty Fresh
Just for the big.
00:09:31
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I think it's highly likely.
00:09:31
Think Fresh
Yeah. I think it's highly likely.
00:09:34
Ty Fresh
like and At the end of the day, like magic is just people committing to a bit excessively.
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Think Fresh
The only thing that magic is with people, meaning to admit,
00:09:42
Ty Fresh
That's all magic is. is's like The magic is how much they care about putting a bunch of effort into the small...
00:09:43
Think Fresh
imagine last
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Ty Fresh
It's very Nathan Fielder, if you think about it.
00:09:47
Think Fresh
it' very neat It is.
00:09:50
Ty Fresh
is.
00:09:51
Think Fresh
um But it's also like the art of distraction.
00:09:51
Ty Fresh
It's also the art of distraction. Yes, absolutely.
00:09:55
Think Fresh
Yes. Absolutely.
00:09:56
Ty Fresh
Look here, don't think this.
00:09:57
Think Fresh
Look here. Don't think this. Chris Black had a quote about magic that I read the other day.
00:10:00
Ty Fresh
chris ah podcast alumni Chris Black had a good quote about magic that I read the other day. um he said that magic can be entertaining, but don't let a magician into your friend's circle.
00:10:08
Think Fresh
He said that magic can be entertaining. Don't let a magician to your pretty sick.
00:10:17
Ty Fresh
And I think that's a very, very sage advice.
00:10:18
Think Fresh
I think that's very, very question.
00:10:22
Ty Fresh
Shout out to Chris if you're listening. Totally.
00:10:23
Think Fresh
Totally. It's the same thing with clowns or those types of things.
00:10:25
Ty Fresh
Same thing with clowns or those types of things.
00:10:28
Think Fresh
It's like you want to hire, they're they're for hire.
00:10:29
Ty Fresh
You don't want
00:10:31
Ty Fresh
but
00:10:31
Think Fresh
What's weird about that is that implies that that entrance to it is a like this is a clown's whole team.
00:10:32
Ty Fresh
but What's weird about that is that implies that on that that entertainment is a spectrum between desirable and undesirable. And like magicians and clowns fall into the undesirable form of entertainment.
00:10:44
Think Fresh
Well, undesirable as friends.
00:10:46
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that's true.
00:10:46
Think Fresh
Yeah, true.
00:10:46
Think Fresh
For people to hang around like when they're off-duty.
00:10:46
Ty Fresh
but like you
00:10:50
Ty Fresh
Yeah, like, yeah, I don't want like an off-duty clown sitting on this couch with us.
00:10:51
Think Fresh
Yeah, that will not be off-duty. Sitting on this couch with us.
00:10:56
Ty Fresh
But if like some entertainment is okay, like if Dua Lipa was sitting here, we'd probably be pretty stoked.
00:10:56
Think Fresh
But if you're a legalist, you probably would be a free style.
00:11:01
Think Fresh
Yeah, absolutely.
00:11:01
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:11:02
Ty Fresh
So objectively, objectively awesome.
00:11:03
Think Fresh
I would be elated. Objectively, honestly.
00:11:07
Ty Fresh
So why is that, Eric?
00:11:07
Think Fresh
So why is that? Why is...
00:11:10
Ty Fresh
some professions in entertainment fall below we want to pod with them?
00:11:10
Think Fresh
um profession
00:11:14
Think Fresh
No.
00:11:15
Ty Fresh
Like, like, I don't a clown is going to be a good pod hang, but maybe a magician or sorry, a musician would magician.
00:11:16
Think Fresh
like i don't
00:11:19
Think Fresh
maybe you could just so and issue wood
00:11:23
Ty Fresh
Damn. Do you watch that?
00:11:24
Think Fresh
watch that
00:11:24
Ty Fresh
Uh, interview.
00:11:26
Think Fresh
ah
00:11:27
Ty Fresh
The interview was it with, who was it with, uh, uh,
00:11:32
Ty Fresh
ah rap a female rapper who got musician and magician messed up.
00:11:33
Think Fresh
know
00:11:36
Ty Fresh
Did you catch that?
00:11:36
Think Fresh
catch that
00:11:38
Ty Fresh
No.
00:11:38
Think Fresh
no
00:11:39
Ty Fresh
Okay. I'm gonna Google this. Let's see here.
00:11:43
Think Fresh
Make sure you keep the mic near you when you do that.
00:11:45
Ty Fresh
I gotta figure
00:11:45
Think Fresh
when you Do
00:11:48
Ty Fresh
this out. Oh, yeah, here go.
00:11:54
Ty Fresh
yeah here we go
00:11:59
Ty Fresh
It was with, ah river do you remember Enemy of the pob Pod, body Bobby Elthoff?
00:12:00
Think Fresh
that have a body? Oh, yes.
00:12:06
Ty Fresh
Oh. Yeah, totally.
00:12:07
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:12:08
Ty Fresh
She had an interview with, who did she have an interview with?
00:12:09
Think Fresh
She had you with
00:12:12
Ty Fresh
the hell? Great.
00:12:14
Think Fresh
Drake?
00:12:15
Ty Fresh
Oh, this girl.
00:12:15
Think Fresh
Yachty?
00:12:16
Ty Fresh
Who is this? Do you remember that is?
00:12:20
Think Fresh
SZA?
00:12:21
Ty Fresh
that Sidda?
00:12:21
Think Fresh
Wait, I can't see it.
00:12:22
Ty Fresh
It doesn't really.
00:12:22
Think Fresh
It's real far. Can you zoom in?
00:12:24
Ty Fresh
i can i can zoom. I can enhance.
00:12:30
Think Fresh
Oh, I have no clue who that is.
00:12:31
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe in the comments. It's like a real busted up movie.
00:12:33
Think Fresh
It's like a real kind of busted up looking SZA type.
00:12:38
Ty Fresh
Suki Hanna. Suki Hanna. Okay, whatever. i don't know who that is, but Bobby Elthoff we all know and have mixed feelings about.
00:12:43
Think Fresh
i don't know
00:12:49
Ty Fresh
injur
00:12:49
Think Fresh
she the one who was on the Drake cover?
00:12:52
Ty Fresh
Oh, maybe.
00:12:52
Think Fresh
Oh, me?
00:12:52
Ty Fresh
thought
00:12:53
Think Fresh
The one with two, not 2 Chainz. thought it was sexy red.
00:12:56
Ty Fresh
that was Sexy Red. 21. 21. twenty one
00:12:59
Think Fresh
21. 21 Savage.
00:12:59
Ty Fresh
twenty one What one again?
00:13:00
Think Fresh
What was that album again? Her Loss?
00:13:03
Ty Fresh
Her loss. Her loss, yeah.
00:13:04
Think Fresh
Her Loss, yeah.
00:13:05
Ty Fresh
Maybe Suki Hanna was on the cover of her loss.
00:13:05
Think Fresh
Maybe it's her Loss. I don't know.
00:13:07
Ty Fresh
Anyways, Bobby L.
00:13:08
Think Fresh
And
00:13:08
Ty Fresh
Top was interviewing her, viral clip, and Bobby says, I don't really know what you do, but I heard you're a musician.
00:13:09
Think Fresh
by
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Think Fresh
I'm a magician? I respect that. I respect that reaction, honestly.
00:13:15
Ty Fresh
And then Suki gets offended and says, a magician?
00:13:16
Think Fresh
Put some respect on name. Exactly.
00:13:19
Ty Fresh
ah No, she thinks the word musician means magician.
00:13:19
Think Fresh
no word be
00:13:21
Ty Fresh
She's like, a musician?
00:13:22
Think Fresh
music music
00:13:23
Ty Fresh
No, I'm a singer. I'm a rapper. I don't do
Defining Coolness
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Ty Fresh
magic. don't do And then Bobby says, i didn't say magician.
00:13:27
Think Fresh
bob this and
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Ty Fresh
I said musician.
00:13:29
Think Fresh
musician
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Ty Fresh
She I don't care what you said.
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Think Fresh
okay
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Ty Fresh
i I don't do that.
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Think Fresh
i
00:13:32
Ty Fresh
I don't do that. I am an artist.
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Think Fresh
ah respect that
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Ty Fresh
respect that reaction, honestly.
00:13:34
Think Fresh
i respect that reaction honestly
00:13:36
Ty Fresh
So funny.
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Think Fresh
so but some respect on my name
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Ty Fresh
Exactly. That's very Birdman.
00:13:39
Think Fresh
Yeah, that's very Birdman of her to do.
00:13:42
Ty Fresh
In what way?
00:13:42
Think Fresh
what way? you You don't remember the Birdman Breakfast Club interview?
00:13:44
Ty Fresh
You don't remember the Birdman breakfast club interview? Charlemagne?
00:13:47
Think Fresh
Charlamagne? Yeah, with Charlamagne, the god.
00:13:49
Ty Fresh
with Charlemagne, the The god.
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Think Fresh
um
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Think Fresh
And DJ Envy, of course. Their shortest interview of all time.
00:13:52
Ty Fresh
And DJ, and beautiful.
00:13:54
Ty Fresh
Their shorts are new. Yeah.
00:13:56
Think Fresh
he like You don't know this?
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Ty Fresh
know this
00:13:57
Think Fresh
This was like viral.
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Ty Fresh
Sorry.
00:13:59
Think Fresh
Super viral.
00:14:00
Ty Fresh
Dude, I'm geeked off from the Negrons. Yeah, you're right.
00:14:04
Think Fresh
You could have ah abbreviated that in a way worse way.
00:14:05
Ty Fresh
Bro, your name's Birdman.
00:14:08
Think Fresh
And I'm glad you didn't.
00:14:09
Ty Fresh
yeah you're right
00:14:11
Think Fresh
No, when Birdman was on the Breakfast Club, he like basically was beefing with them immediately before he even like sat down. he's like, put some respect on um it um my name, bla blah, blah, blah.
00:14:22
Think Fresh
And he's like, okay. Okay.
00:14:23
Ty Fresh
bro your name's bird man
00:14:25
Think Fresh
ah Yeah, And then he's like, I'm not playing with you guys. No mo.
00:14:30
Think Fresh
Just very incoherent kind of like beefing kind of stuff.
00:14:30
Ty Fresh
so that's
00:14:31
Ty Fresh
i'm from yeah sort of Honestly, if you are ever invited onto any form of radio or podcast, that's the ideal way to conduct yourself is aggressively and ignorantly.
00:14:34
Think Fresh
And then basically he gets up after like two minutes. So shortest interview of all time on The Breakfast Club. Honestly, if you ever in podcast, let's get you over to what you get yourself.
00:14:46
Think Fresh
Aggressively and inherently.
00:14:50
Think Fresh
Yeah, never answer any questions. You have the right term in
00:14:50
Ty Fresh
yeah You have the right to remain silent.
00:14:53
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:14:54
Think Fresh
yeah yeah i mean those are always like the coolest artists never answer any interview questions the coolest artist doesn't even really exist look at frank where is he will he come over with anything ever again yeah maybe was the ultimate edge lord teasing music for years that is true and he is the coolest he's the coolest artist
00:14:55
Ty Fresh
Yeah. I mean, the coolest thing is never enter. The coolest artists don't even really exist. You know, like, look at Frank. Frank, has where is he Will he come up with anything ever again?
00:15:09
Ty Fresh
We don't know. Playboy Carti was the ultimate edgelord. i'm Just teasing music for years. That is true.
00:15:19
Ty Fresh
And he coolest artist. The coolest artist. That guy? Yeah, that guy, the vamp king himself.
00:15:25
Think Fresh
Yeah, that guy, the the vamp king himself.
00:15:28
Ty Fresh
what What does cool mean to you, Eric?
00:15:28
Think Fresh
What does cool mean you Cool?
00:15:30
Ty Fresh
Cool?
00:15:31
Think Fresh
Yeah,
00:15:31
Ty Fresh
Yeah, cool. It's indescribable, Ty.
00:15:32
Think Fresh
It's indescribable, Ty. It's a a certain je ne sais quoi.
00:15:34
Ty Fresh
It's a certain, je ne sais quoi, it's feeling.
00:15:36
Think Fresh
It's a feeling. I mean, some things you just can't put into words, but deep down, all of us kind of know, you know?
00:15:37
Ty Fresh
Some things you just can't put into words, but deep down, all of us kind of know, you know? Some of us can create it, some of us can simply observe it, but we all of know what
00:15:43
Think Fresh
Some of us can create it. Some of us can simply observe it, but we all kind of know what it is.
00:15:49
Ty Fresh
You see, I think I figured it out.
00:15:49
Think Fresh
You see, I think figured out.
00:15:51
Ty Fresh
I have the equation.
00:15:51
Think Fresh
I have the equation.
00:15:52
Ty Fresh
Okay, let's see.
00:15:52
Think Fresh
Okay, let's hear it.
00:15:53
Think Fresh
recording
00:15:53
Ty Fresh
Playboy Cordy doesn't quite fit my equation, but I will tell you what the objective universal definition of cool is.
00:15:56
Think Fresh
but I will tell you what the objective universal definition of cool is.
00:16:02
Ty Fresh
And it is something that's cool when it is either young, attractive, or rich.
00:16:02
Think Fresh
And it is something that's cool when it's either young, attractive, or rich. you Everyone wants to be the young, hot, and wealthy.
00:16:09
Ty Fresh
You know, everyone wants to be the young, hot, and wealthy. So when people that embody those qualities are doing things, they are cool.
00:16:14
Think Fresh
So when people that embody those qualities are doing things, they are cool.
00:16:22
Ty Fresh
And like, so like every young or attractive or wealthy person, usually two out of three is doing anything at all, whatever they're doing is immediately cool because they are embody the characteristics everybody wants.
00:16:22
Think Fresh
So if you're a young or attractive or wealthy person, is doing anything at all whatever they're doing
00:16:33
Think Fresh
wants.
00:16:34
Ty Fresh
So then you replicate that to be like them, to be cool.
00:16:34
Think Fresh
So then you replicate that to be like them to be cool.
00:16:39
Think Fresh
Because their coolness is just about chasing pursuing those three intangibles. So do you think Mark Zuckerberg is cool?
00:16:39
Ty Fresh
Because their coolness is just about chasing, pursuing those three intangibles.
00:16:44
Ty Fresh
So you think Mark Zuckerberg is cool? Well, he's trying to dress...
00:16:47
Think Fresh
Well, because he's young, successful and wealthy.
00:16:50
Ty Fresh
Theoretically, yeah, he checks all those boxes.
00:16:50
Think Fresh
theoretically yeah But he's not cool though.
00:16:52
Ty Fresh
he's them. You're right.
00:16:54
Think Fresh
So I just disproved your theory.
00:16:55
Ty Fresh
whisper
00:16:56
Think Fresh
so there there may be <unk> gu yeah Is your mic plugged in?
00:16:56
Ty Fresh
So just... So there may be Moxie is the fourth. Maybe it's this kind of je ne sais quoi. Yeah, I'm not getting anything.
00:17:03
Think Fresh
I'm not getting anything from you.
00:17:05
Ty Fresh
What? No clippy clippy? It's working for you?
00:17:07
Think Fresh
It's working for you?
00:17:09
Ty Fresh
On my my computer's completely frozen.
00:17:09
Think Fresh
Actually?
00:17:11
Ty Fresh
okay.
00:17:12
Think Fresh
ah actually yeah
00:17:12
Ty Fresh
Well, yeah, I can't click on anything.
00:17:14
Think Fresh
include more okay
00:17:16
Ty Fresh
That's deeply problematic.
00:17:17
Think Fresh
lin do you want to maybe
00:17:17
Ty Fresh
Do you want to maybe hit pause or stop?
00:17:19
Think Fresh
ah okay
00:17:23
Think Fresh
And we're back.
00:17:24
Ty Fresh
We are so back.
00:17:24
Think Fresh
so
00:17:24
Ty Fresh
I wonder if any of that even made it into the microphone.
00:17:29
Think Fresh
lost
00:17:29
Ty Fresh
Lost in the cloud. It's possible that none of that it in and we're just going to work it.
00:17:30
Think Fresh
It's possible that none of that made it in, and we're just gonna work with that.
00:17:34
Ty Fresh
We have to. We're 16 minutes in and we're not restarting.
00:17:35
Think Fresh
We're 16 minutes in and we're not restarting this.
00:17:38
Ty Fresh
We have to march onward.
00:17:38
Think Fresh
Something about the Zuck being a cuck.
00:17:39
Ty Fresh
So I don't even know where the bread has lost us.
00:17:42
Think Fresh
something about the za being
00:17:43
Ty Fresh
za be
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Think Fresh
ah cock
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Think Fresh
<unk>
00:17:46
Ty Fresh
Is Zuck a cock or Zuck?
00:17:48
Ty Fresh
Check technically all the boxes of coolness.
00:17:49
Think Fresh
But you're trying to measure the unmeasurable tie.
00:17:52
Ty Fresh
Dude, there's only three boxes.
00:17:53
Think Fresh
Why? Some things have to be not measurable.
00:17:53
Ty Fresh
Young, hot, wealthy. You're trying to measure it to be no.
00:17:56
Think Fresh
My aura.
00:18:00
Ty Fresh
Yes. But it is ah falsity to assume that being cool is an immeasurable thing.
00:18:02
Think Fresh
the to
00:18:06
Think Fresh
why some things have to be
00:18:08
Ty Fresh
Why?
00:18:09
Think Fresh
not measurable
00:18:10
Ty Fresh
Name one other thing that's immeasurable.
00:18:10
Think Fresh
one
00:18:12
Think Fresh
um
00:18:16
Think Fresh
my aura
00:18:19
Ty Fresh
I think that's just a proxy for coolness.
00:18:19
Think Fresh
i think
00:18:21
Ty Fresh
Even sandwiches are have been like...
00:18:21
Think Fresh
True, true.
00:18:24
Think Fresh
What about smell?
00:18:24
Ty Fresh
Can you measure smell?
00:18:25
Think Fresh
Can you measure smell? Like the bread smell, Ty.
00:18:26
Ty Fresh
Like the bread smell high.
00:18:28
Think Fresh
Can you go, like, can you break it down formulaically?
00:18:28
Ty Fresh
Can you go like... Can you break it down formulaically? I bet you there's a unit of measurement for smelling and we just don't know it
00:18:32
Think Fresh
but
00:18:36
Think Fresh
And it can't just be, like, intensity.
00:18:36
Ty Fresh
can't just be like intensity. has to be like the... I don't know.
00:18:40
Think Fresh
It has to be, like...
00:18:40
Ty Fresh
The different notes, guess.
00:18:41
Think Fresh
um the, don't know, the different notes, I guess, like percentages of different notes.
00:18:47
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:18:49
Think Fresh
But even then, like, if say you got 10% dill, like, how do you measure what dill is?
00:18:51
Ty Fresh
see
00:18:54
Ty Fresh
like do you measure Yes, you're right.
00:18:57
Think Fresh
Yes, you're right.
00:19:00
Ty Fresh
ah Let's take a look on the internet and see what we can learn about this.
00:19:01
Think Fresh
Let's take look at all
00:19:06
Ty Fresh
So obviously we have like smell is often considered parts per billion or billion PPM is how you're going
00:19:06
Think Fresh
the interesting stuff. So obviously we have, like, smell is often considered parts per million or billion. you know Parts per million?
00:19:16
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that's more of a chemical analysis of the actual like molecules for determining smell and that can be used to gauge intensity.
00:19:16
Think Fresh
Yeah. That's more of a chemical analysis of the actual molecules for determining smell, and it can be used gauge intensity.
Scent Analysis and Subway Bread
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Ty Fresh
but that's a fairly like scientific way to approach scent.
00:19:24
Think Fresh
But that's a fairly scientific way approach SYN.
00:19:28
Ty Fresh
A more human way is the olfactometry, which is an, an actual unit, an o u which measures how much odor is in the air for a specific thing or the intensity of the odor.
00:19:28
Think Fresh
A more human way is the olfactometry, which is an actual unit, an OU, which measures how much odor in the air for a specific thing or the intensity of the odor.
00:19:43
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:19:45
Ty Fresh
um
00:19:45
Think Fresh
Um, and then, but beyond that, besides intensity and concentration, the type of smells bit more complex, we can categorize it and then use intensity along with that.
00:19:46
Ty Fresh
And then, but beyond that, besides intensity and concentration, ah type of a smell is a bit more complex. We can, categorize it and then use intensity along with that.
00:19:58
Ty Fresh
But I mean, like there the human urge to, for the taxonomy of things is just insane.
00:19:58
Think Fresh
But mean, like the, the humor is to, for the taxonomy,
00:20:05
Ty Fresh
I guess so.
00:20:07
Think Fresh
I guess so. um
00:20:07
Ty Fresh
How do you think like the labo, like whenever you go the labo store, you see two people in the human zoo area wearing lab coats.
00:20:09
Think Fresh
How do you think like the labo, like you whenever you go to the labo store, you see those two people in the human zoo area wearing lab coats.
00:20:20
Ty Fresh
so-called chemists.
00:20:21
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:20:21
Ty Fresh
Yeah, ones are just like,
00:20:21
Think Fresh
The ones who are just like holding up beakers to the light.
00:20:24
Ty Fresh
light
00:20:25
Think Fresh
It's like, what are you looking at?
00:20:26
Ty Fresh
looking at dude but what are they yeah crazy conspiracy everyone who works in the low labo uh like chemistry zoo gets cancer after a decade yeah they got exposed in the sun uh i just imagine them like lifting up their vial and saying like i invented blello kind of shit you know
00:20:28
Think Fresh
Like, what are they measuring in there? You know? everyone
00:20:33
Think Fresh
and
00:20:36
Think Fresh
Yeah, they got exposed to the Santal in its purest form. I just them lifting up their vial and saying, like, invented the Lalo kind of shit, you know?
00:20:49
Think Fresh
Bergamont is my son.
00:20:52
Ty Fresh
So what they're working with is they're working with three tiers and five families.
00:20:52
Think Fresh
so what they're working with is they're working with three tiers of
00:20:58
Ty Fresh
Your three tiers we're all familiar with. Every single apothecary uses them. we got top, base, and middle notes. You're familiar?
00:21:09
Think Fresh
Yes.
00:21:10
Ty Fresh
You're all about top notes, right?
00:21:10
Think Fresh
You're all about notes, right?
00:21:12
Ty Fresh
First so first impressions is everything.
00:21:12
Think Fresh
First impressions everything.
00:21:15
Ty Fresh
guess so. I don't know about any those
00:21:17
Think Fresh
I don't know what any of them any of those things mean, to be honest.
00:21:19
Ty Fresh
Okay. Top notes are your first impressions.
00:21:20
Think Fresh
Top notes are your first impressions.
00:21:22
Ty Fresh
That's your heavy hitter out the gate starting lineup.
00:21:22
Think Fresh
That's your heavy hitter out the gate starting lineup.
00:21:25
Think Fresh
Someone's going hit you with a scent as soon as you are introduced to it.
00:21:25
Ty Fresh
So what's going to hit you with a scent as soon as you are introduced to it.
00:21:31
Ty Fresh
Then usually if your top notes on a cologne or something will last 30 minutes max.
00:21:31
Think Fresh
And usually if your top notes are on column that will last 30 minutes max, then you're going to hit the baitment
00:21:37
Ty Fresh
Then you're going to hit the bait no the middle notes.
00:21:39
Think Fresh
middle notes, they're what they call the heart of an aroma, the body of the scent.
00:21:39
Ty Fresh
They're what they call the heart of an aroma, um the body of the scent. This is where some of the deeper smells, like you'll get more florals and kind of spices coming out at this moment, whereas your top notes are maybe more like citruses.
00:21:44
Think Fresh
This is where some the deeper smells look like they get florals and kind spices coming out at this moment, whereas you're talking to maybe more like citruses.
00:21:52
Ty Fresh
And that'll last for an hour, two hours, three hours.
00:21:52
Think Fresh
And that'll last for an hour, two hours, three hours.
00:21:56
Ty Fresh
Then...
00:21:56
Think Fresh
Then your base notes come through.
00:21:57
Ty Fresh
your base notes come through and that's going to last all day.
00:21:58
Think Fresh
That's going to last all day.
00:21:59
Ty Fresh
And that's your like heavy hitting foundations, like a musk or a wood or a vanilla. That's going to carry you blend with your, your sweat and really create that like unique to Eric smell.
00:22:04
Think Fresh
hear
00:22:10
Ty Fresh
Gotcha.
00:22:10
Think Fresh
Gotcha. So if you were to break down the Subway bread smell into top, middle, and base, what would you describe it as?
00:22:11
Ty Fresh
So if you were break down the subway bread smell into top, middle and base, what would you describe it
00:22:19
Think Fresh
Great question.
00:22:20
Ty Fresh
Great question. I think the top note is always the herbs, the herbs from the herb and cheese.
00:22:21
Think Fresh
I think the top note is always the herbs. The herbs from the herb and cheese.
00:22:24
Ty Fresh
You get that like oregano, you get a little bit of that smell of like dairy, if that exists.
00:22:26
Think Fresh
You get a little of that smell of
00:22:30
Ty Fresh
I feel like it kind of does like a smelly cheese.
00:22:32
Think Fresh
cheese
00:22:34
Think Fresh
you think it smells Like the hardest hitting sentence smelly cheese.
00:22:34
Ty Fresh
think its something
00:22:36
Ty Fresh
hardest hitting each I'm describing that as the top note.
00:22:38
Think Fresh
I'm describing this as the top note.
00:22:40
Ty Fresh
It's like it's in and and it's out, you know, through one nostril out the other.
00:22:40
Think Fresh
It's in and it's out, you know? Through one nostril, out the other. Gotcha, okay.
00:22:45
Ty Fresh
Then your middle notes.
00:22:45
Think Fresh
Then your middle notes. What you think the middle notes are?
00:22:46
Ty Fresh
What do you think the middle notes are based off this description?
00:22:47
Think Fresh
Because the bass is like heavy grain.
00:22:48
Ty Fresh
Because the base is like heavy gray, you know?
00:22:51
Think Fresh
Heavy grains, yeah. The middle is a tricky one.
00:22:54
Ty Fresh
all The middle a tricky one.
00:22:55
Think Fresh
um
00:22:55
Ty Fresh
Can you remind me of what means?
00:22:56
Think Fresh
Can you remind me what it means?
00:22:58
Ty Fresh
It's like the body, the heart of the scent, like what really makes it unique.
00:22:58
Think Fresh
body
00:23:01
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:23:01
Think Fresh
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Hmm.
00:23:04
Think Fresh
The base or the middle note of a bread smell.
00:23:04
Ty Fresh
The base, the middle note of a bread smell.
00:23:10
Think Fresh
I don't know, dude.
00:23:11
Ty Fresh
not
00:23:11
Think Fresh
Like, can you even, is bread too simple of a scent profile?
00:23:12
Ty Fresh
you Is bread too simple of a scent profile? Because when you go like, we're talking like
00:23:18
Think Fresh
Because when you go like, when we're talking like Marrakesh from Aesop, okay, we got spices here and here. We got musk. We got some jasmine or something.
00:23:28
Ty Fresh
Yeah, also it's a Moroccan shit.
00:23:28
Think Fresh
Those are like a bunch of different things mixed together.
00:23:31
Ty Fresh
but like
00:23:31
Think Fresh
But like bread is flour and water, but you know?
00:23:32
Ty Fresh
red as flower Well, that's why, if that's the case, then why is the Subway bread so iconic?
00:23:35
Think Fresh
Well, that's why does taste in life with some place that's so important.
00:23:39
Ty Fresh
Because it's more than that, Eric.
00:23:39
Think Fresh
is more than
00:23:40
Think Fresh
micro
00:23:40
Ty Fresh
We got microplastics.
Conclusion and Listener Appreciation
00:23:42
Ty Fresh
We got macroplastics.
00:23:42
Think Fresh
macro
00:23:43
Ty Fresh
We got mid-plastics.
00:23:43
Think Fresh
Okay. And there's like bucket in Bucket.
00:23:45
Ty Fresh
So your top notes are micro. Your base notes are macro. And they're in the middle, in the heart.
00:23:50
Think Fresh
Yes. A little bit of bucket.
00:23:51
Ty Fresh
We've got the middle plastics. And I think the middle plastics in this case are actually mixed with a whole bunch of salt and sugar.
00:23:53
Think Fresh
Lovely. Well, Ty, I we should wrap here. but
00:23:58
Ty Fresh
So it has this like salty sweet middle note.
00:23:58
Think Fresh
how's okay
00:24:02
Think Fresh
and and there was like bucket in there somewhere too
00:24:02
Ty Fresh
and there's like
00:24:04
Ty Fresh
Bucket.
00:24:05
Think Fresh
and bucke
00:24:06
Ty Fresh
Yes.
00:24:06
Think Fresh
yeah
00:24:06
Ty Fresh
a little bit of bucket.
00:24:06
Think Fresh
bit of
00:24:07
Ty Fresh
Is that bucket?
00:24:08
Think Fresh
lovely but well i think we should wrap here
00:24:11
Ty Fresh
i think you should wrap me i agree. This was a wonderful episode.
00:24:14
Think Fresh
wonderful so friends thank you for
00:24:15
Ty Fresh
bretts Thank you for listening. Think fresh, everybody. Ciao.