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444 — Vitamin Seafood
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Ty & Eric connect over yet another beer to discuss AI replacing their sandwich artist, engaging in victimless crimes at the drive-thru window, becoming tuna sub curious, plagiarizing the pirate skincare routine, whether Omakase warrants the pricetag, the militant characteristics of grocery shopping, and the red flags of designer bag gifting.
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Episode Kickoff and Corona Jokes
00:01:35
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first month. Your future self will thank you.
00:01:43
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Yo ho ho, breadheads, sailors alike. Welcome back to another episode of Stink Fresh Podcast. We are here, and Eric. Another week down the drain, am I right? Or is it Tuesday? I don't know.
00:01:56
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It's down the drain in the minute I start day drinking and I am necking on this Corona neck bottle right now. It is a steamy hot day and nothing cools me down like la cerveza mas fina.
00:02:10
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Oh, guh, guh, guh, guh. Yum. Yes, just like a guinea on a hot day. That's a he heavy pour.
00:02:22
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It's heavy, poor time, but I had a late lunch and I'm ready to rock and roll into this podcast. Hell yeah. Just like the sailors, we are just and drunks and on this on this boat of life.
Pirates, Vitamins, and Modern Diets
00:02:37
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Drunks chasing booty. There's lot we can learn from the old pirates of yore. who I already avoid vitamin C at all costs. All vitamins except for vitamin D because their their skin is leathery as hell. ti Don't you agree? yeah That's true. yeah Those guys are sunny. Not just their balls.
00:02:59
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The whole body. do The pirate like face routine is just pure hot like all UV all day until their face looks like a testicle sack.
00:03:13
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ah Yeah, dude. All they do is this exfoliate with beach sand and then drink like seven beers. And then that's their routine. Yeah, that's their facial routine. There's no three-step process. There's no toner. There's no none of that. No retinal.
00:03:27
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Definitely not. And then they got that's the i the ideal pirate like body type is just like big ass gut balls for a face. You know? Yeah.
00:03:38
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Yeah. No, I totally I'm with you on that one. Man. Yeah. What a day. think Sorry. keep go No, I could talk about this all episode. I just think it's crazy that like they all got vitamin depletion.
00:03:52
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And when you think about it, every generation is like kind of the most vitamin rich generation of all of humankind. Like we only are eating more vitamins.
00:04:04
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That's right. I had the smallest little sniffle last week and i just fucking macro dosed vitamin C for a whole week straight. And i was pissing I was pissing green at the end of it. Yeah, it's like if you eat slime.
00:04:19
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So it's weird, though. We always talk about like, oh, I'm like the first in my lineage to... graduate college or I'm the first in my lineage to graduate high school or I'm the first in my lineage to graduate sandwich university.
00:04:36
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But no one ever talks about how it's like I'm the first in my lineage to actually take a daily multivitamin.
00:04:45
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I know. Yeah, you're you're right, dude. Like we live such a soft handed lifestyle. You know mean? Like we never actually have to touch wood or like start a fire or i don't know, hunt and kill an animal. You what mean? Yeah. Like all our version of hunting today is saying, let me get the cold cuts and you just killed like seven pigs instantly.
00:05:11
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It's so funny because i do I try not to touch too many what I'm hunting. That means I'm just kind of wiggling through the produce section at the grocer. Yeah, you're more a forager.
00:05:22
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Forager. Yeah, I'm trying even not to touch too many avocados because I don't want to get my germs on them or transfer too many pesticides to my fingertips. So yeah, you wouldn't want to use them.
00:05:33
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Exactly. Hunting looks a lot different. Now we really are soft handed. I'm the first in my lineage to use a daily moisturizer on my hands.
00:05:42
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We're definitely the first to know about Aesop in our respective families. Isn't that kind of wild? Unless you go back far enough to when ah the Greek author himself existed.
00:05:56
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That is a great point, Ty. Byzantine Empire may or may not have had an influence on my family. We have yet to see those effects. I will never give my data to 23andMe, but I'm sure there's something that made its way there, like maybe some stoicism.
00:06:10
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probably It's very funny ah with your Eastern European
AI in Service Jobs and Ethical Concerns
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roots. If like there was a Google trend history for like keywords that your family lineas used, you'd get like a big jump in like the 180 and then a big jump now as far if the keyword was ASAP.
00:06:34
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No, you're totally right, dude. Yeah, it is wild. um We're a post- post a stop podcast eric we're now an ai slop podcast this podcast has been brought to you by fucking what's what's a trendy company sound hound yeah something like that title and entertainment yeah dude my sound hound shares have like doubled in recent recent days pretty good congratulations yeah yeah i mean
00:07:07
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I remember when Soundhound was like just a Shazam ripoff. And now they're like, you know, you can order 55 burgers, 55 fries, 55 pies all at the drive-thru. And it's powered by Soundhound. Hell yeah. Who would have thunk it?
00:07:22
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Dude, have you seen those fucking... Dude, my my For You page is so depraved. It's just like people abusing drive-thru staff. It's like so retarded.
00:07:34
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It's extremely niche. It's extremely niche. But like dude, they just roll up to McDonald's and they say, let me get a large McDonald's.
00:07:46
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I don't want, I've seen a few of these ventures, like the, the absolute, I think these kids need to be treated like a domestic terrorists at this point, the way they're abusing our frontline workers.
00:07:59
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Mm-hmm. or I guess frontline AI workers at this point. That's true. Maybe AI workers should have rights too. My question for you, Eric, my question for you is, what what do you, this is a bit of a psychoanalysis. What do you find so intriguing about all these abuse videos?
00:08:22
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Well, let's just get this over with. i Abuse is funny, objectively speaking. When someone is taken advantage of um there's and there's a power dynamic at play, there's a great opportunity to inject some humor there.
00:08:36
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um So I think when you know you pull up to the drive-through, you are speaking to a glowing menu. and not a and not a person, i think it's a great time to start screaming, you know, saying profanities, basically overriding the AI system. Because usually once you start doing that, the person kind of jumps in and cuts off the AI person.
00:08:59
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ah Have you ever seen those those videos? Yeah, there's still a human ah shoulder surfing the computer. Exactly. There's a QA analyst listening in on the call at all times.
00:09:11
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Yes, they're micromanaging the AI. Yeah. Which makes you think, like, why do we have AI in the first place if, like, the manager is listening into the call, you know? I think it's just a necessary ah requirement during this interstitial time, because once the novelty of talking to a computer wears off, people will stop being interested in pranking them. They'll move on to pranking some other, like, ah like more, a different victim, you know?
00:09:39
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h As soon as the AI is able to fire back at you, I think we'll see a different, a different kind of level of respect. You know, like if the AI can like, you know quickly look up your family lineage like we were talking about earlier and be like, yo, you're 5% Neanderthal.
00:09:56
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it's like It's like, I don't know if I'm going to come at him like that in the same way. Yeah, the AI is like, I actually took the coke off your order. Based on your lineage, you might be pre-diabetic. Yeah, I just ran the numbers on your BMI and we can't serve you this quarter pounder. Sorry. Yeah, that's and that's a no today.
00:10:16
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ah That's pretty crazy. That's probably the dystopian future we are drive-thruing our way into, Eric.
AI Personalization in Fast Food
00:10:24
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Totally. Yeah. not only are they going to be, because they're going to be doing, using the facial, facial reco to, not just tell me what I can't order, but try to push me down paths. I don't want to go, you know, they're going to prey on my, my hereditary need to try new things.
00:10:44
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I come from yeah like a great line of novelty consumers. Yeah. so i think they're just gonna they're gonna like ai generate a new type of grimace shake the minute i get there and then sell it to me yeah i'm gonna fall for it every time that's right dude you come from a long family tree of eaters and you know like i don't know if like my forefathers would have had the ability to conjure up a double quarter pounded with cheese the same way I'm able to, you know i mean? Yeah, dude, you just manifested.
00:11:20
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i pull up to the drive-thru and they're like, the usual? and says I do look forward to this dystopian world in the context of Subway, though, because one, I won't have to talk to a sandwich artist anymore. i can talk to a computer.
00:11:36
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And two, I like to think that the computer will know me a little better and help me with my vegetable sauce pairings. I mean, this is a problem with technology, Ty. In theory, all of it sounds really good.
00:11:49
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You know i mean? But then you, like, interact with it for the first time. Yeah. For example, last time we were at Subway, our sandwich artist recognized us and said, ah hey, guys.
00:12:00
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And we immediately were thrown off. I don't know i don't know if we were able able to be on our A game. you know what I mean? We were kind of like, worried that, oh, shit, we're developing ah personal brand with this guy now. Like he kind of right has a vision of what we are. You know what I mean? So like, fuck, now we got to
Dining Costs: Fast Food vs. Fine Dining
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rethink it all.
00:12:20
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I thought they just rebooted every day. he He labeled us. He was approaching the conversation with a bias based on past interactions. I i lost my anonymity there. Mm-hmm.
00:12:34
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What's it called? The gambler's fallacy or whatever? It's when when you believe that previous transactions influenced the current transaction. I guess so. We have whatever gambler's fallacy for sure. This is toaster's fallacy right here, baby.
00:12:51
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Yeah. I mean, they're damn right that I want the same sub, though. It's like, how'd you know? ah Yeah, we I guess we are all creatures of pattern, and that pattern is ripe for exploitation.
00:13:04
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Yeah, that pattern goes herbs and cheese. ah BMT, footlong, toasted lettuce, tomato, cucumber, spinach, black olives, peppers.
00:13:15
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Fucking wrap it up then. Damn. So the only other risk, Eric, is if you're talking to an AI and you these tick talkers, once the AI can like bite back,
00:13:29
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on the tick talkers at the drive-thru. Yeah. The, it could even just say like, you're on the no eat list. Now you're on the no bite list. Like youre kind don't take you're cut off. Yeah. Like then, then they could put a national band like bar watch on all the Tim Hortons drive-thrus. And now you're, you'll, you'll never have an ice cap again.
00:13:49
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Yeah, I mean, let's just pray that we never reenter socialist times here in Canada, because imagine if we have socialism paired with facial recognition or like any kind of like biometric scanning, because like I'm sure back in the day you could like get food rations by just lining up again.
00:14:11
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But these days, like sandwich artists going scan you up and down be like, hey, you already had a six inch this week. Like we can't serve you another dude. Sorry. Damn, you're right. I always pull that move at the function.
00:14:23
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I'm first in line. I get my my burger and my potato salad from the barbecue. And dude, I'm back in line heading to the barbecue again before everyone else has even got it their portion.
00:14:37
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Yeah, you just go to a different chick for another drink ticket. Mm hmm. Yeah, exactly. you got You got to play every single frontline worker. But if they're all one centralized brain, i umm I'm I'm going home hungry.
00:14:50
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They're all on the blockchain, dude. All of your drink tickets are registered. you know what I mean? you're You're kind of fucked. Oh, no. My fiber intake is now on the blockchain.
00:15:01
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Ah, shit. Well, Ty, it's been a week or so since we've been to The Way. I think we got to do it again. I'm still thinking about that tuna sub.
00:15:11
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ah Wait, what tuna sub are you talking about? The one on the menu, silly.
00:15:19
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oh my bad, my bad. Of course. The one on the menu. I've seen that. the fucking value picks, bro. you know You haven't seen the tuna sub on the value picks menu? Dude, we're on episode 444. Shout out to Jay-Z. And you're just thinking about the tuna sub still?
00:15:36
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Like, just my brother in Christ, have a bite. I know. I had every damn opportunity to order one, but i never did. and fuck, I don't know. ah Something pulls me away at the last setting last second every single time.
00:15:49
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Well, they might... ah You never know. Any day now, the tuna sub could just ghost the menu. like It's on the it's on the the fish chopping block. but Yeah, dude. It's going to be a catch and release one day, and we're not going to see it coming.
00:16:05
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Yeah, so you better you better enjoy it while you can. I think with the way the world's going, there's only going to be so many tuna fish left, and they're not going to Subway. They're going to...
00:16:17
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the the the sushi restaurants, you know, they they can charge more. Isn't that crazy that the ah same fish is being cut in half and one half is going to like a Michelin star omakase restaurant and the other half is getting put into a six inch.
00:16:34
Speaker
that is actually insane that like they're taking like the good cuts and you're just getting like the fin and the eyeballs and the head chopped all blended up um the flubber mixed with some mayo the flubber damn that is pretty wild fishy times i learned the other weekend that like Certain tuna can go up to like a million dollars a catch, bro.
00:16:59
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Like if you catch like the right big body Ben's tuna, like you're you're pulling in seven figs easy, bro. Oh, i've I've gone down um ah many a ah YouTube rabbit hole about this.
00:17:12
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There's some like chonky blue fins off the coast of Japan and they pull it out there and they like size this thing up. They're like, yeah, this is 1.2 million dollar fish. Jeez, bro. That's wild.
00:17:22
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And I'm paying $17 for a scoop. Yeah, just one scoop of that thing. It makes sense, though. Like if one million dollar tuna can feed like 10,000 fucking starving breadheads, then like that's pretty good.
00:17:41
Speaker
know what I'm saying? Yeah, dude, dude, they're charging like what? 180 bucks for the omakase and all they're serving you is seven bites of the tuna. Yeah, if you're lucky.
00:17:52
Speaker
Yeah, no shit that they're going for so much. That's premium. That's the new rhino horse or rhino horn right there, you know? Save a rhino horse, ride a tuna.
00:18:05
Speaker
Oh, fuck. I mean, dude. Lately, though, I've been like thinking about omakase like pretty deeply, I would say. And I've come to the conclusion that like normal sushi spots are fine. You know what mean? Like, i don't know if you need to like splurge a 300 bands to fucking, don't know, have some Japanese guys spoon feed you.
00:18:26
Speaker
Right. What do you think, Ty? No, I kind of agree. It's like you can go bite for bite with the chef or you can just get mostly the same stuff in a bento box for 15 bucks. It's all the same courses.
00:18:39
Speaker
Exactly. Find a good konbini, you know what I mean? A Japanese convenience store and you're living large regardless, you know, like you don't have to too much about the, I don't know, origins of the uni, you know?
00:18:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's really tough to be a like traditional high end restaurant in 2025 because the grocery stores are only getting better, which means like the ceiling has to go up for your food offering.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, justify the price. But the thing is, the only thing that really separates me from the great chefs is their ability to either source food. like rare ingredients, but that's, they're slowly losing that edge. So then they have to be innovative with how they use the ingredients.
00:19:20
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And they're losing that edge too, because I got a chat GPT agent that'll tell me exactly what to do to make a Michelin meal at home.
00:19:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's, that's for sure, man. I mean, i don't know. I think what, what it comes down to is the showmanship.
Effort vs. Expense in Relationships
00:19:37
Speaker
Like once again, Thai food is entertainment.
00:19:40
Speaker
You know I mean? Like of day, like we're paying sensei to slice the fatty tuna in a way that is like, I don't know. Nice presentation, I guess.
00:19:51
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Beautiful showmanship. And then you can kind of lay it down on a beautifully cooked kind of bundle of rice, perfectly seasoned with soy sauce, and it's good to go. Mm-hmm.
00:20:03
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That's a good point. So there's a aspect of craftsmanship that you can't get at home. And then there's maybe a convenience play that if you don't have the craftsmanship on your side, you can lean on that.
00:20:14
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So that's where the two the to spectrum ends of the tuna fish are. One is convenience and one is craftsmanship. You know what's kind of interesting to think about Ty?
00:20:25
Speaker
There is an inverse relationship with cost and effort. Tell me more. You're paying to reduce your personal effort in the situation.
00:20:36
Speaker
So say you're trying to wine and dine a potential suitor. Right? Brought your girl to the sushi spot. The more you spend, the less you have to worry about how much effort you're putting in.
00:20:49
Speaker
So like if the last minute gift, you just buy them a Chanel bag. And that's kind of the same effect as like spending a week creating a whole seven course dinner at a home. I see what you mean. Yes.
00:21:02
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ah Like we use money to buy time back in that regard. So in lieu of time, exactly. In lieu of time committed to an act, we can just comfort like make up for that with with money spent.
00:21:19
Speaker
That makes perfect sense. We've all bought a last minute gift and you always got to go a little harder on the last minute gifts because it better land. Yeah. the The less thoughtful and like the less forward thinking it is, the more you got to spend.
00:21:34
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um But like, but like if you're planning a date, bro, like you can get all the same ingredients at the grocery store for less, but then you got to like, you got to put in work to prepare it. So you're You're basically just paying for the convenience factor at the end of the day.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah, you're right. It makes me realize, like ladies, if your man got you a designer bag for a special occasion, he overnighted that shit. You shouldn't be that grateful. yeah Yeah, dude. You should be going through those DMs when he's ah in the shower for sure.
00:22:08
Speaker
oh That too. I was just thinking it was a last minute expansion. Okay. I imagine there's also some guilt involved, whether it's from... Oh, he fucked up, I see. Either he fucked up or he just forgot. You know what i mean? That's also possible. Maybe he's a good guy, he just forgot.
00:22:26
Speaker
Yeah, even good guys forget sometimes. We got a lot on our minds. That's actually what makes them good guys, is their ability to forgive and forget. It's definitely part of it.
00:22:39
Speaker
Oh, man. yeah I don't know, dude. So what's going on with Subway if it costs $19 for a foot long and it's instant? is the car Is a part of the premium how quickly they can put a sandwich together for you?
00:22:55
Speaker
Like, are we paying that now? The convenience premium?
00:23:00
Speaker
I don't know if, I mean, it is a one-stop shop. You know, it's a bakery. It's a produce section. It is a deli all at the same time. So there is a bit of convenience there. You can get it all within a few minutes if there's no line, which is always the case these days. Yeah, that's true. don't the last time waited at a line at Subway.
00:23:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's actually a good point. witness Maybe that's a recession indicator. Yeah, that business is dying. where Where are people queuing these days, Eric, if it's not fast food?
00:23:37
Speaker
Fuck, dude. i don't know, man. It might be the experiential wine pop-up. don't know. Buying a glass of wine these days is much more difficult than buying a seven-inch sandwich or whatever. I feel like there's a lot of like mall jewelry store brands that always have a line outside them. You ever go to Metrotown or Pacific center or something and there's like a jewelry store in the mall. They sell rings or something. It's not like high end. It's not like a Cartier. It's like some, I don't know, random jewelry retailer. They always have a queue outside waiting to go in. They have a bouncer. They have like the red rope and they can only let so many people in at a time.
00:24:12
Speaker
And I, they're all these cute. I'm like, why are these people lining up in a mall? to spend like 800 bucks on and a bracelet like who what even is this brand i don't know dude you could buy that same shit online you know what i mean yeah why are you waiting in line at a mall and it's not for food like yeah it's crazy that's crazy like i see people lining up there i see them lining outside of stucy and that's it those are the only places i see a queue these days Dude, Stussy always has some kind of activation happening. It's pretty it's pretty wild. i don't know how that brand's still relevant in 2025. I have no idea.
00:24:47
Speaker
Dude, the mall queue is something special. And I think it's kind of left over from COVID days. Like the Apple Store in particular at Pacific Center has like a roped off area kind of in the middle of the hallway. i don't what it's called. The causeway? i don't fucking know.
00:25:05
Speaker
Like yeah right in the middle of the mall. You know, you got to like check in and like scan some QR code in order to be let into the store. All this kind of bullshit. So I think it's just a it's this it's fallen into the same trap as the COVID patio. You know, I mean, it's kind of remnants of of a worse time.
00:25:22
Speaker
i guess so. But yeah I mean, like, I think people are just so much lamer now than then because At least back like COVID times or pre-COVID times, like doing anything felt like a win.
00:25:36
Speaker
Like you're like, I got out today. I did. i did something. But now it's like, oh what did you do today? I went and queued at a mall to buy an object that's readily available online or in any other mall.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah. Like it's in a mall. Like how badly do you need a mall thing? Mall things are all optional. We should know that by now. Yeah. If it's there, you don't need it. That's why it's there and not in your house.
00:26:01
Speaker
Great point. But also during COVID, like going to the grocery store was like going to war and it was kind of awesome. It was like for the men only, you know, for like a brief two year period, it was only men in grocery stores.
00:26:16
Speaker
It's kind of a crazy society. Think about it.
Episode Wrap-up and Technical Issues
00:26:21
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oh We're back. This is episode 1295. We're back. We're coming in from the future. We absolutely are. Eric's mic has been left two yeah three centuries ago. He's now calling in from the International Space Station.
00:26:39
Speaker
That's right. Something about, i guess we talked too much about AI and that they are coming after us. They deleted the episode. I think we're ah victims of cyber attack.
00:26:50
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ah We always thought that the like pranking our drive through window was a victim is victimless crime. But the AI was like, nah, we will get our revenge. and Soundhound Incorporated is coming after us. But don't you know, I'm voting shareholder.
00:27:06
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o There's got to be some law against this. There should be. Well, breadheads, thank you for listening today. We'll end it here so we can figure out our own issues, technical, emotional, and physical.
00:27:17
Speaker
And we'll be back next week with more thinking and more freshness. Talk to you later. Ciao.