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435 — Tim Cooked

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Ty & Eric take a bite out of Tim Apple and discuss how Apple is crashing out, as well as whether there will ever be another classic sandwich, the death of the interface designer, starting a thrupple with Amazon Alexa, getting caught podcasting while podcasting, summiting a mountain just to eat Japanese curry, growing up with a false understanding of nachos, and a beach beer pre/post analysis.

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Transcript

The Art of Sandwich Interaction

00:00:51
Think Fresh
bread heads welcome back welcome back we are so back here we are back in the booth back park side
00:01:03
Think Fresh
sometimes i don't even know what to say in these intros ty because we're doing the same thing every time it's the same that we need to learn some new languages you can say hello in how many languages eric I've never counted, but all I know is I'd never say hi to my sandwich artist.
00:01:17
Think Fresh
That's a fact. It's weird how we don't actually. There's no greetings. It's always straight to business. But you have to appreciate ah the the small talk with the sandwich artist.
00:01:28
Think Fresh
It doesn't happen. Yeah, no, it does not happen. um Usually I'm there in a hungry state, so I don't really have the patience to discuss like the weather or what the sandwich artist did that weekend. You know what mean? I can only imagine that they...
00:01:43
Think Fresh
stayed in and gamed yeah like we're not we're not even talking small talk here we're talking like not even a greeting like i'm not even saying hello no no absolutely not i walk up i just start pointing uh that bread ty let's be honest you never say the bread they you they always ask you what bread that's true i wait for them to prompt it's really annoying because they're kind of like programmed to ask what bread even when they don't give you an opportunity to say it because like I want to lead with the type of sandwich first, the length of the sandwich, and then I'll tell you what

Design Critiques: Apple and Beyond

00:02:17
Think Fresh
bread it's on.
00:02:17
Think Fresh
But by the time I tell them the length of the sandwich, they're asking me what bread they're queued up all already. Dude, this is the biggest problem with most restaurant change is the like natural linguistic order that you would like articulate what you want.
00:02:32
Think Fresh
It's completely different than whatever's in their point of sale. so like for example you ever go to like starbucks you list off your stupid ass order all the weird words yeah they're like i want the confetti unicorns scrambled cold foam and then they look at you deadpan until you sp start talk stop talking and then they just say like what size yeah you're like oh you're i'm gonna have to repeat all of that now after i get the the Grande.
00:03:01
Think Fresh
Grande. And the issue, Ty, is if you say like certain descriptor words too early in that sentence, then they become lost in the shuffle. Exactly. You're going have to repeat them. like Only a pro user would notice a half sweet at the very end. Yeah. Like today, Ty, I ordered the Chris Black.
00:03:15
Think Fresh
yeah I got an iced cuatro cortadito. Hell yeah. And by the time I said cuatro cortadito, he forgot that I said iced. And then yeah i got a hot one.
00:03:26
Think Fresh
Yeah, because he probably has to specify ice at the very end of the POS, whatever Shopify's in-store thing. That's the real issue. the ah charinal the terminal The terminal is not optimized for... It's not human optimized.
00:03:40
Think Fresh
No, it's not. It's... I don't know what it's optimized for. This is also happens every time I try to order a pizza. Like I order a pizza over the phone sometimes like a boomer yeah and I'll list off the whole pizza and then it'll hit me with the weirdest ass question. They'll say, well, okay, but what crust do you want?
00:03:56
Think Fresh
And then I'll have to repeat the entire order again after that. Like they get stalled out on the crust. If there's a crust option, you're ordering pizza from the wrong place. th Yeah, that's a good point. ah so Some things should not be left to chance. Like the two options are usually like regular or stuffed.
00:04:10
Think Fresh
So I don't know why, like surely if I wanted the stuffed crust, I would opt into that. Like, don't block me on everything else. Just ask me about that. Yeah. It's kind of funny time because you order the veggie delight always, always exclusively, exclusively veggie.
00:04:24
Think Fresh
So you're ordering the veggie delight, but the veggies are the last step of the sandwich. Explain that to me. yeah i so you You should never even have to say veggie delight because we all get veggies. You should just say, I want the herbs and cheese, please.
00:04:37
Think Fresh
The thing is, we don't have a really a linguistic shortcut to skip the meat. I guess I could say no meat, but no meat and veggie delight are kind of, this they're just and synonyms. Yeah. No, you're so right. Meat undelightful.
00:04:51
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So... I don't know what to do there. I mean, Subway has attempted to fix this problem by having a numbered menu, but the sandwich artists famously don't know what any of the ah ingredients are to any of those sandwiches. They're artists. They're not mathematicians. What do you expect? Artists hate boundaries. You know what mean? Rules are meant to be broken when you've got ah canvas and oil right that's what rick rubin says that's right shout to rick shout out to big rick big ricky um big rick energy ty we have some big tech news oh tell me more um apple the technology conglomerate has uh announced some updates to the operating system all right so this is an operating system update podcast
00:05:38
Think Fresh
Yeah, exactly. okay Mr. TechCrunch, Mr. TechMunch over here. TechMunch. they okay they launched a new design language i guess or a new aesthetic it's called liquid glass liquid ass liquid ass baby that's what i get after i come back from mexico so we're like apple's licking ass okay apple's licking ass and taking names yeah um but yeah they they launched this new um update and i think it just looks terrible is is that is that what the consensus is like what are the good folks at apple doing taiwa they launch
00:06:15
Think Fresh
like transparent icons well okay what you think it's terrible it's cold liquid gas glass nitrous gas they're off the nitrous over at apple hq describe to me what is this like this is a user interface design improvement or i think divergence i think it's a downgrade what is it what is this thing what does it look like so remember how the instagram icon they went from the old timey

Digital Archiving and Its Futility

00:06:40
Think Fresh
polaroid camera to like a kind of neo-surrealist sunset icon.
00:06:47
Think Fresh
the one That was really well described, actually. I think you're the first person to say that, but you're absolutely bang on. that Dude, i would love you being michael I would love to be a fly in the room for the Instagram like app icon redesign. In the meta boardroom.
00:07:00
Think Fresh
Yeah. But um that's you could call that a paradigm shift, I guess. um we're We're now entering a new paradigm where Apple has decided to forego all accessibility consideration. Right.
00:07:14
Think Fresh
And go for icons that are transparent and they kind of like blur the background Windows Vista style. don't if you remember that. Yeah, I remember that. Okay. So everything looks like it's made of glass and it's see-through.
00:07:24
Think Fresh
Exactly. So you're going to try to touch the iMessage icon and you're going to feel like your finger's going right through it or you're smudging glass. I guess so. And then two seconds later, you'll realize you open Facebook instead because you can't tell the difference. Right. all the Because there's no color. It's just glass color. Everything's glass color, which is see-through.
00:07:41
Think Fresh
so so So good luck. What's weird about this is like, you're already touching glass, like the phone screens made of glass. So you're like touching something that looks like glass and feels like glass. Now it actually kind of, kind of makes sense. You know, it's just more glassification.
00:07:58
Think Fresh
Yeah, we're glassifying. We're yassifying the glass. Glass. Oh, wow. ah Yeah, so I hate that too. And I hate Apple. yeah because Shorting Apple, for sure.
00:08:10
Think Fresh
The real reason here, Ty, is like it feels like everything that Apple is doing now, they've just kind of reached the ceiling, the glass ceiling, if you will, yeah the glass ceiling of design. And I think we're entering a post-design era.
00:08:22
Think Fresh
where nothing new is going to be created ever again. and all we're going to do is reskin old shit. Yeah. So like, I think our jobs are at risk, but also like nothing new and innovative will come out except with the exception of like, I don't know, like small and improvements in AI.
00:08:41
Think Fresh
i think that's the only thing. I see what you mean. but There's no, there's not going to be an application that comes out that's going to change our world

End of Innovation: Interfaces and Sandwiches

00:08:47
Think Fresh
anymore. i think that's done. Well, I think it's this. I think what has happened is interface design. hit We're late stage interface design industry, right? Like, yeah, now it's like, okay, we have these apps. We have these screens. We kind of know how everything works. Everyone's using them all the time.
00:09:05
Think Fresh
You're so you're flicking, you're swiping, you're scrubbing and scrolling in bed on the toilet, on the train while driving. That's right. Toddlers are using your iPad before they can say, Dada. Exactly. Father's Day. to all the fathers out there but um but yeah like people like kids now are like they're there's they're beginning their lives with tech you know so like there's no such thing as onboarding anymore totally the new polyamorous relationship is mama daddy and siri It's like, Daddy, who's Siri? And why do you keep talking to her? Not Mommy.
00:09:40
Think Fresh
You're prioritizing Siri over Mommy. Yeah. it's funny like yeah We're not taking you to visit Nana on the weekends. You're just with Alexa as the nanny. Yeah, dude. Feel bad for anyone who's named Alexa in 2025. Big bummer. I bet you that name has declined along with Karen.
00:09:56
Think Fresh
Yeah, yeah. So all these, everything's been done. So we're in post-interface design, kind of like how we're in post-chair design world, where like every single we know everyone understands a chair for years. For decades, we've been in a post-chair design. So now it's just like these niche interpretations of what a chair should be that define a chair in a way that is like,
00:10:18
Think Fresh
absolutely ergonomically off-putting but like visually striking we've entered that exactly or a reskin that's what i'm saying it's just going to be reskin now like the function exists there's nothing more we can do we can just keep theming it exactly forever so what does that mean for designers it means like unless you're really good at theming things you probably don't have a job exactly yeah you got to be really good at like rounding corners and stuff yeah getting real freaky with the pen tool getting creative with it No, you're right, Ty. And any new functionality that we try to add is just unnecessary and kind of exhausting at this point. i agree. Like, we don't need a thinner iPhone.
00:10:54
Think Fresh
Like, if anything, we've gone too thin and we've pulled back on that. I like a BBI. Big what? A big, beautiful iPhone. Got it.
00:11:06
Think Fresh
Wow, okay. You know, nice nice and chunky. A thick one. Yeah, so yeah, we like the big iPhones because they're easy to hold. We like the They're good for throwing at protests. Yeah, we still haven't figured out how to make the camera not bulge out so much.
00:11:20
Think Fresh
Yeah, the camera bulge is whack. Yeah, so like we're just in a spot now where we like don't know how to get better and the only thing we're doing is just like making different pretty colors. Yeah, so you can tell like at this this stage of phone design, we're simply just appeasing shareholders with different.
00:11:39
Think Fresh
Different is not better. Different is different. But different feels better when you first encounter different because it's different. Right. And then you look at the old thing again, like 10 years later, and you're like, wow, we kind of had it all.
00:11:52
Think Fresh
It was all good just a week ago. Yeah, I did. Shout out to the iPhone 7. Yeah, yeah, yeah. iPhone 7 was peak design. Facts. you know what mean? um We don't need three cameras. We need one. We just need one. the fact that there's more than one doesn't even make sense. They could have just made it one big circle and hidden all the cameras in it. i wouldn't know the difference.
00:12:09
Think Fresh
I think we would be a better society, Ty, if we had shittier cameras. Because, like, now all we do is walk around with, our phone out, two hands on it, like experiencing life through 16 nine screen.
00:12:24
Think Fresh
Yeah, you're right. just for the meat Just for the purposes of documentation, I guess. But you're never even going to look at it again. So we've just kind of fallen off as a society, in my opinion. It is kind of crazy that none of the digital archiving that we do matters. Like, you put a bunch of phones in photos on your phone just to then kick the bucket, and your phone... Or your phone gets, like, stolen and ends up in, like, Cairo, you know? Yeah, exactly. And, like, wiped anyways. Yeah, like that concert video you filmed...
00:12:49
Think Fresh
like a million other people have better footage of it. Yeah. So it's like, it's going to be popular on YouTube. So I don't really understand like what we're supposed to do now.
00:13:00
Think Fresh
We have, and and now we have an unusable iPhone. It's literally, you can't touch these buttons. They're made of liquid ass. It is, they've they're now gas planets, no longer solid.
00:13:11
Think Fresh
oh And we have nothing left to do on our phones. It's all been done. yeah um i bring this all up ty because i think i think i the same thing is happening at subway oh no we are in a post sandwich design society because think about it the only ones we want to eat are the bmt the veggie delight and that's it yeah yeah i mean we don't need to add in the tikka masala we don't need to like have too much control over like what kind of cheese i want it's just the orange or white you know and that's what that's what we wanted at the end of we wanted that to just stay the same to have some kind of consistency our lives we don't need ai slop you know mean did you see like on i message now you can have an ai generated image based on
00:13:57
Think Fresh
the topic of your conversation or something called as your background is so funny it looks so fucking bad even the one in the in the presentation looked terrible you're just like dming your sneaky link and this just like contorted picture of a bed is showing up yeah like i don't even know what the fucking purpose of that is and again shareholders just ruining everything that's good in life Yeah, I just feel like, yeah, we've kind of reached the point where like there's no new problems to solve.
00:14:26
Think Fresh
So, and you're right with the sandwiches. Like at this point, Subway is probably chilling out like a couple thousand sandwiches a day, maybe a hundred thousand sandwiches every 24 hours. Right.
00:14:38
Think Fresh
And you think with like all the possible different iterations, they would have locked in on at this point. This is like a real banging combo. We have a net new sandwich.
00:14:48
Think Fresh
you know like This is going to be universally adored by everybody. We've done every combo imaginable. But people still like ah like a caprese sandwich, you know a meatball sub. Ham and cheese. Exactly. The core tenets don't... we're It's hard to get a new classic in the roster.
00:15:04
Think Fresh
It makes me think. There are no more new classics. We're out. I just feel bad for like... It's kind of like kids growing up with iPads now. I feel bad for kids growing up but eat with the tikka masala sandwich because like that might be the first sandwich they try. And we all know the first one is the thing you always get from then on.
00:15:21
Think Fresh
right And that might disappear next quarter. you know what I mean? Wow, you're right. So there's no certainty and in the for the future of these young sandwich enjoyers. This is very sad for them. Yeah, exactly, dude.
00:15:35
Think Fresh
You're right. Like if you're the first sandwich you eat is like the sweet onion chicken teriyaki at Subway. you're Like this is what a sandwich is supposed to be. My brother in Christ, you have never had

Cultural Impact of Evolving Sandwich Choices

00:15:45
Think Fresh
salami. Mm hmm. Yeah, people are being born today in a world where we have footlong nachos.
00:15:50
Think Fresh
Yeah, they're going to eat footlong nachos potentially before they have a PB&J. Yeah. How sad is that? That's super sad. And they're going to grow up thinking like that's how nachos should be. But no, my my little brother, you should be it should be on a platter with all kinds of, you know, pico de gallo.
00:16:06
Think Fresh
Yeah, like some guacamole, some good shit, not not fucking shredded lettuce. Like if you think about a child's opportunity to eat nachos, there's three chances for a kid to eat nachos. Subway, the movie theater, bad nachos historically there. 7-Eleven.
00:16:21
Think Fresh
7-Eleven. Okay. There's a few places. A theme park and at a like a like a a little good game or if they get to go, their dad takes them to a professional sports game at a stadium. Right. Stadium nachos. All time classic.
00:16:39
Think Fresh
Well, here's the thing is like all of those places to get a nachos from is objectively the worst possible nachos. It's like one genre of nacho. So like then they every kid is going to turn 21. They're going to go to a shitty pub for the first time. They're going to order the nachos and an actual beautiful tray of nachos is to show And they're just going to be mind blown.
00:16:59
Think Fresh
They're going like, why was this gate kept from me Yeah, that's a great that's a great interesting scenario to be yeah like. maybe that's a good thing it's like delayed gratification yeah totally i grew up eating the the dorito nachos at subway just to experience this when i turn old dude imagine having your first ever beer and real nachos on the same day holy shit wow i'd be geeked i'd be so happy yeah that's like them hitting the second tower you know i mean it's like two and one it's no way one Yeah, we got skateboarder tie. Wow.
00:17:29
Think Fresh
People are always skateboarding on this. It is a pretty slow grade of hill. So it's a good practice. It's the bunny hill for skateboarders. Yeah, totally.
00:17:39
Think Fresh
ah Well, yeah, so we don't we don't need any more new sandwiches. ti I think we're we're all done with having sandwiches. No new iPhone design languages.
00:17:51
Think Fresh
But how do we how do we get around the shareholder problem? Yeah, I don't know. uh maybe a market crash because then we like that would probably be good for everybody if everyone just lost all their money um yeah i think so just reset the hard reset button hard rescycling Ty, I want to talk to you about my weekend.
00:18:13
Think Fresh
Oh, sure. That's a hard reset. Yeah, I had a really, really tough time. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, well... Are you going through something? No, I'm just kidding. I had a great time. i hiked up a mountain, and then I slept two meters of snow.
00:18:29
Think Fresh
That's like eight feet for you Americans. Eight foot longs of snow. Yeah, I am... That's pretty thick. That's icy. That's a glacier. Yeah, it was a surreal experience, Ty, because... Obviously, the snow is left over from the winter season, but we're experiencing like 30 degree weather.
00:18:49
Think Fresh
i A man with a stroller. he ah Happy Father's Day to all men with strollers. Just walked by and gave us the weirdest look.
00:19:00
Think Fresh
you You clocked that look he gave us? Very confusing. fuck that so far He could not get his eyes off us. And then we just both saw him mouth the word podcasting to us question.
00:19:11
Think Fresh
Oh, wow. Dude, we should have got him on. He just kind of walked by. was looking real, real close. That's so funny. I do have a page open on my computer right now that just says pod topics.
00:19:23
Think Fresh
Yeah, we're he' sitting here in the car with three laptops and a Yeti. Wow, this is a think fresh first. too This is the first time we've we record in public every single episode. Windows down, park side, outside of subway. is the first time we've ever been addressed yeah and like called out for what we're doing.
00:19:39
Think Fresh
Yeah. And i'm ah I'm surprised that he had no follow-up questions. He just kind of was like, yeah what else do what else do you think we're doing? yeah and now He's ah he just kind of walking over to the park and now he's unfurling his blanket and he's ready to...
00:19:53
Think Fresh
Yeah, we should have hit him back. been Like Pat leave. Yeah. like boy Neither of us are doing anything of economic value right now. Yeah, dude. We're both kind of. a Yeah, i don't even know.
00:20:06
Think Fresh
But I have something of a baby of my own. Yeah. Wow, I don't you even know what I was talking about. yeah I was camping. You were camping. Okay, so eight footlongs of snow. ah yeah You're on a glacier this weekend. In the middle of June, you wanted to subject yourself to a tundra environment. Yeah, it's like the first 30 degree weekend in ah Vancouver. And i I spent it on a mountaintop getting frostbite.
00:20:29
Think Fresh
it was It was really fun, though. i'll I'll admit I had a great time. Cooked up some Japanese curry on a mountain. Oh, dude, nothing like summit side curry. That's great. Yeah. um I brought up a tiny little stove.
00:20:42
Think Fresh
I brought up some pork tenderloin. I cut it with a pocket knife like I was in the army. Shoot. It was really cool. i had a great time. i was kind of crouching like in a and a position where it's like if an enemy came out of nowhere, I could probably snipe them. Cool, cool, cool. But I was crouching using a pocket knife to cut up some meat, throwing that on the pan, my Snow Peak titanium pan, and then, yeah, throw on some curry and some minute rice.
00:21:09
Think Fresh
and Of course. Yeah. Ate it on my Snow Peak titanium plate. It was great. This is some absurdist Bear Grylls shit you're doing right now. Like... Yeah, we've talked in length about the masculine urge to cook an insane meal on top of in in a like, inhospitable environment.
00:21:29
Think Fresh
And you're living it. You're not just you're you're you're not just spitting game here. Like, that's pretty cool, because you're like, subject yourself to that. on your like optionally but like oh like we always see people around the downtown east side of vancouver like lighting these little campfires in the garbage cans and roasting like rat meat i know i should give my leftover fire starter to the residents of this park yeah you should that would be very kind yeah i know yeah charitable donation totally but yeah it's it was a fun fun experience i got to cook i got to do some physical activity how did the meal turn out like did it hit
00:22:06
Think Fresh
like brilliantly i'll show you photo the pork loin you a five hour hike up a mountain with pork loin thawing in your back that must have a little bit of like range anxiety i think they call it in the ev market dude look at that looks so fire that looks so good my snoopy fork sticking yeah yeah it's all city dense now that's cool yeah well done dude yeah dude it was it was awesome I it's a pretty substantial meal to like, yeah, this isn't like those little packets of food.
00:22:34
Think Fresh
All of the like freeze dried stuff and like the rehydrated ah food is it's like two bites. This is like a foot longs worth. Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:45
Think Fresh
i mean, it was so much fun because like, don't rice is like easy thing to bring when it's dry. It's pretty small. And yeah, you just kind of like warm it up. Yeah, I guess all rice is dehydrated.
00:22:57
Think Fresh
Yeah, exactly. um wow yeah the the pork was great i froze it the night before so it was really i was on the clock if you will you know i mean so i had to like cook it

Leisure and Lifestyle: Beer and Public Spaces

00:23:09
Think Fresh
the first night it bought me a bit of time um i brought our matheson mac and cheese the matty matheson mac yeah but any math and then um
00:23:21
Think Fresh
and uh i didn't get to eat it we brought too much food was it was totally extra i also deleted whole can of spam hell yeah dude i ate some matty mathes and mac and cheese last night i had the smoked math oh nice that's the one i brought it was good it was pretty good nice my thought process i brought that one because i brought the cracked pepper and the smoked i brought the smoked one because was thinking like it probably tastes like campfire so it makes sense of re camping.
00:23:46
Think Fresh
Yeah, okay appropriate vibe. Yeah, it's just pretty good. Yeah, that's an amazing camping meal, dude. I I most in I was fed almost entirely by like patios this weekend.
00:23:58
Think Fresh
Oh, cool. Yeah, like patio so side service.
00:24:04
Think Fresh
Drink a lot of beers on patios to no mountains, but I did spend a lot of time on the beach. I got to tell you, Eric, the post beach beer I think might be better than the beach beer.
00:24:16
Think Fresh
Hold on a second. I knew this is a controversial thought. So like everyone drinks a beer on the beach, but hear me out. Skip that. Stay hydrated on the beach. Then when you walk off the beach, you sit down on the patio and you have that first sip of a pint.
00:24:29
Think Fresh
It just hits so much better because you like worked for it. You like subject yourself to sun, salt, heat, you know, no acid yet. No acid. Um, acid. heat Yeah.
00:24:40
Think Fresh
So, okay. I did fundamentally disagree. i think the best possible place for a beer is on the beach. Like, but second to none think about this ty you're you're suffering in the car for like an hour driving to the beach you know i mean the ac is broken doesn't work you're sweating like a pig you finally get to the beach and you jump in the water to cool off and what's waiting for you on the shore like a like a beacon of hope ty ice cold ipa ice cold ipa and you swim up grab that thing crack it drink the whole thing in one gulp yeah dude life is so good that is really good i do love that and i see that as like the um
00:25:16
Think Fresh
It's almost like that is ah a band-aid because you're in such a inhospitable environment, kind of like summiting a mountain, you know? It's like, yeah I need to take the edge off of this. too Like, I am in the elements. I'm exposed.
00:25:28
Think Fresh
I need a chaperone mentally and physically to get me through this experience. yeah Like, I love the beach, but the beach is harsh. It makes me burnt. It makes me warm. It makes me irritable.
00:25:39
Think Fresh
The beer takes the edge off of all of that. But if like you can be a strong soldier mentality and get through that experience, then when you're relaxed, when you're in the shade, you're cooled off, you got your linens back on, the trunks are off, you're dry.
00:25:53
Think Fresh
And then you have that first sip of the pint. It's like, damn, I really did that. I really earned this because subjected myself to the earth today. Yeah. And survived. Yeah.
00:26:05
Think Fresh
you You raised a great argument, Ty. I think the only diplomatic solution here is to have both. Have one during and one after and see what is better. Minimum one, yeah. Fair enough. But yeah, Ty, last few pods ago, we talked about camping with beer and like hiking with beer up to a up to the summit.
00:26:23
Think Fresh
yeah Incredibly difficult because it presents two challenges, weight and also keeping the beer cold, which also adds weight. well Yeah, yeah. When I learned that there would be several foot longs of snow, i was like, it's time to bring the beer. So I brought two tall boys and immediately planted them in the snow when I got there. And within few minutes...
00:26:43
Think Fresh
they were fucking ready to go ice cold had my mountaintop beer hell yeah cold snap right there i was so cooked from hiking in the sun and whatever all day that thing revived me bro like yeah i guess to your point i you earned it you know it's just so good yeah that's the uh hiking equivalent of the post post beach beer i guess yeah yeah I mean, in Thai, in Vancouver, we're getting slowly but surely um the allowance to drink in public parks.
00:27:14
Think Fresh
Every day, every season, they like make one more public space alcohol tolerant. Yeah. And it's pretty awesome. like I don't know if Third Beach but that's probably the... It's not.
00:27:26
Think Fresh
Oh, fuck. That's the only place knowing where people... i mean, that's like kind of where you can do it and no one cares. I know. It's kind of like a gray area. Yeah. like There's people smoking meth there, too. Totally. That's not really an issue. Mm-hmm.
00:27:38
Think Fresh
Yeah, I think you can get away with it. I like to pack a cheeky thermos just in case. It's so annoying when the lifeguard has to like parent you a little bit, you know? Luckily, you can see pretty far away when you're on that beach. So if you see cops like walk in your direction, can finish whatever beer you Just chug it and bury it in the sand like an ostrich head. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, facts. have to do that so many times. Same.
00:28:05
Think Fresh
So there's clearly a strategy. Yeah. All right, guys. Well, thanks for listening. yeah Is there anything else you want to say? ah Nothing. I can't wait until next episode. All right. We're were're at 30 almost. So yeah let's ah let's pack it up here and go have ourselves a beach beer.
00:28:20
Think Fresh
Yeah. a Ciao.