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434 — Post Sub Clarity
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Ty & Eric post up parkside to analyze the typical greenspace enjoyer, as well as discuss Eric’s after hours Subway activation, their strong stance against trivia nights, living with post-sub shame, the unfolding Musk / Trump breakup, and the unpalatable Letterbox crowds at indie films.
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Transcript
Outdoor Podcasting and Audio Challenges
00:00:50
Think Fresh
Yo, what's up, redheads? And what's up, yogis? And um hello to all my Pilates and Porsche girlies. Oh, oh, oh! Because it is we are sitting parkside today, where the sun is out, the yoga mats are out, the grass has never been greener. Yeah, it's a beautiful day. We're hanging out the park right now.
00:01:11
Think Fresh
um I think we've got our audio kind of dialed. I mean, we've had some new experiences recording outside. So we're trying to optimize that. But, you know, I'm saying 400 episodes in and we're still tweaking.
Ashton Hall and the Appeal of a Carefree Lifestyle
00:01:25
Think Fresh
dude easy Yeah. Oh, you're never perfect. You're always in um in progress. You know, you're always in a state of tweak. Even like Ashton Hall still working out. Dude, that guy, he's... ah I don't know what the fuck that guy's doing.
00:01:39
Think Fresh
Do you see the when he posted like my life if I didn't work out or whatever? Probably looks a lot like my life. but Yeah, there's a clip of him like waking up at noon, like throwing his controller at the TV, like eating like a fat slob.
00:01:53
Think Fresh
That's kind of what I aspire to be. Yeah, yeah. That's like, that's what we're working for here, you know? Yeah, I work hard so I could live a life like that.
Park Dynamics and Social Interactions
00:02:02
Think Fresh
I mean, a lot of people have somehow evaded like capitalistic enterprises and the pressures of living a normal, good, healthy life.
00:02:11
Think Fresh
Yeah. uh like the guy guys at the park over here there's it's so funny on a nice day you get like your regular goons just hanging out that are there regardless of the season regardless of the weather but now they they have all these like um like expats coming in have these immigrants to the park you know you got you got like the girly group who's there for some aerobics you got like the fun young young like college kids that are there to have some pizza and beers yeah you got the actual immigrants who bring their entire garage out to like cook a steak the whole family and their whole family everyone's got their own picnic chair exactly so i'm curious for like the regulars at the park you know they're like the beer gutted old men and
00:02:54
Think Fresh
The leathery skin, like tatted guys. Yeah, they show up on a bike. um Although they do not look like they've ever walked. ah Or purchased it. Yeah, they probably stole it.
00:03:04
Think Fresh
I'm curious if they're like happy to have all of these new faces with them in their grassy backyard or if it bothers them because like... They now have to share the space, but they're sharing the space with objectively like nicer, better looking people.
00:03:19
Think Fresh
Better looking, sure, but nicer? I don't think so, dude, because I think if I were to step out into the grass, only they would acknowledge my presence and invite me to crack a Budweiser with them. You're right. that's ah That was really like stereotypical of me to assume that they would be mean just because they're unattractive. It's usually the hotties that are the meanest, we're being honest. Not to me, man.
00:03:40
Think Fresh
They like me. That's right. that's right Hotties love me.
00:03:45
Think Fresh
um But yeah, dude, like those guys are the original settlers the park. You know what I mean? Like they've got the portable stove, gas powered or other. um They've got the non-Yeti cooler yeah just filled with beers to the brim.
Late-Night Subway Adventure and Fast Food Reflections
00:04:03
Think Fresh
And they're kind of like ready do to hang out for hours on the end. Yeah, they've either modded their bicycle, their lawn chair, or their backpack so that it has, like, a cooler attachment on it.
00:04:15
Think Fresh
Yeah, totally. And um what's, think, the most beautiful in this scene here, Ty, is that in the digital age, they these guys don't text each other. They just show up to the park expecting to see their mates.
00:04:27
Think Fresh
And they're always there. It's consistent. You know what mean? You never have to invite them out. there're You just meet them at the park, like usual. Wow, you're so right. You just build a, it's a trust network. Yeah, we're looking at the group chat right now. but The group chat is live.
00:04:41
Think Fresh
Everyone is a green circle. It's live action group chat. Holy. ah Green circle hanging out in the green square. Oh, fuck. Are you talking about their bellies?
00:04:52
Think Fresh
I'm talking about the the park, bro. Grand Central right here. Yeah, Grand Central Station right here. Yeah. It's a beautiful sight. Beautiful beautiful day. Wow. So good to be outside. So good to be here. What's happening in the world? You you ate some Subway last night out here. I can still smell it on you.
00:05:09
Think Fresh
Yeah, i had to wash my hands three times. Chris Black style. It's excreting from your pores. That's unfortunate. fuck I know. I can smell it as well, Ty. I had Subway after midnight last night. So technically it was today. Technically today. Those are famous last words. How are you doing?
00:05:28
Think Fresh
Not well. Not well. I woke up this morning thinking like the pain in my stomach might prevent me from hiking this weekend. So I'm going to have straight for the next couple days just to flush that out.
00:05:39
Think Fresh
Nothing. The late night subway is tough because the next morning you have that shit of shame. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah we we don't do the walk of shame as men, but we have the dump of shame. The dump of shame, for sure, yeah.
00:05:51
Think Fresh
So yeah, i ordered a BMT with our friend of the pod, Patrick.
Humor in Coupon Use and Social Etiquette
00:05:55
Think Fresh
Shout out to Pat. We went to a movie last night, saw the new David k Cronenberg movie. It's the Canadian director. Mm-hmm.
00:06:04
Think Fresh
And... um A little cult film action here yeah What type of people show up to at Cronenberg showing? Is it all like... lot of bald lot of bald men.
00:06:14
Think Fresh
A lot of piercings? No piercings? It was too dark for me to tell. is it just is it just like film guys? this Is this just like a letterboxed forum meetup?
00:06:28
Think Fresh
Yeah, pretty much. um Yeah, they're all friends on Letterboxd, I think. like It's like an entire subreddit goes to one of these shows. Yeah, totally. um Yeah, don't know. It's hard to describe. It was really dark. I couldn't see. We sat at the back.
00:06:44
Think Fresh
And no funny business. and Yeah, no hole in the popcorn bucket. Extra butter. Yeah. um yeah so i don't know it was good movie anyways we went to subway i got a bmt i had a coupon i felt i've never felt more poor in my life they using a coupon at subway after midnight is some like yeah questionable questionable activity well it's embarrassing time because i've i've had a coupon in my wallet for the longest time and it's kind of like when condom in your wallet and you like never use it you don't know if it still works yeah you're like i should just throw this out yeah yeah i better put it to use or just get rid of it you got to get that thing out of there yeah so dude
00:07:21
Think Fresh
So rather than keep the condom in my pocket ah perpetually, i decided to use it. And I thought it was like a two for one kind of deal. so I was like waiting to use it with somebody.
00:07:32
Think Fresh
same with a condo Just like a condom. Exactly. i had to Trojan horse my way in there. So, um, But it wasn't, it was only, it was an $8 BMT coupon. So I said, okay, I'll get, I guess have the BMT.
00:07:44
Think Fresh
So you didn't even need a consensual adult to use it with. No, but we all know going to subway is, um, the last resort.
The Trivia Night Debate: Annoyance or Attraction?
00:07:51
Think Fresh
Yeah, for sure. Only if you're in a fight or flight kind of mode is when you should do that.
00:07:55
Think Fresh
Exactly. And so did you practice safe sandwich making with this $8 BMT, which I guess is a good deal. I hope so. um The sandwich artist, it looked like the tomato bucket was completely empty.
00:08:07
Think Fresh
but That's because the tomato was all pushed to one side, which was towards me. Like I couldn't see it. And only when I got to it, I kind of looked over the sneeze guard and I saw it. so I was like, oh, fuck it. I'll get some of that.
00:08:17
Think Fresh
Right, right, right. theyre They're hiding from you. Yeah, it was a risky move, but it turned out to be fine. didn't. you know, ate the sandwich with tomato. yeah And yeah, it was good. It wasn't as loaded as most sandwiches i get are.
00:08:31
Think Fresh
i don't know what it was. i it's just in It was like half empty. Maybe it's because i used a coupon. Yeah, you're getting a, it's like when the happy hour tater tots are smaller than the full size order.
00:08:42
Think Fresh
Yeah, totally. That's exactly what happened. So, I mean, and after midnight, what else do you want? You know, it's like, I just need some food. Yeah, 100%. Honestly, they probably are looking out for you. Like they want, you don't want to actually have a maximalist footlong sandwich that close to bedtime. No.
00:09:00
Think Fresh
The sandwich artist is knows best in this case. That's true. Keep it light. The subway is a 24 hour subway. And in cases like that, how do you think the veggies are faring after like 4am?
00:09:12
Think Fresh
That's a good point because there's probably a pretty long period where no one is eating them like they're not cycling right yeah so you got just bell peppers sitting out for hours but is it like do they toss everything at some point in the middle of the night give it like a little misting like the uh produce section yeah totally it's like when do you don't reset for the day because if you're always open then you're never like closed for business and you never have a chance to do it so
00:09:43
Think Fresh
That's good point. know that works. Yeah, they're just perpetually restocking until you hit the drought where the vegetables just have to like try to survive the night. who What's the opposite of a gold rush, Ty? Because that would be like like lunch. What's the opposite of a lunch rush?
00:10:00
Think Fresh
A gold rush would be like gold rush lunch rush uh there's there is a con i think it's ah a depression yeah and i think that's what we're talking about okay cool the great depression is between 1 a.m m and 5 a.m in my case it was between 9 a.m and noon the next day yeah that would be a depressing time if i ate a sandwich right before bed yeah it's kind of like when you like wake up after a heavy night of drinking and you feel kind of anxious for no reason like the hangover makes you just feel like sad about life and yourself do you ever get that or just me no every time at most days almost every day i wake up at 9 a.m feeling just that yeah sensation yeah so like there's a equivalent to getting a sandwich um
00:10:47
Think Fresh
is the similar feeling post post posts sandwich clarity yeah ah yeah yeah so that makes sense you had a pretty uh pretty busting night last night then because i saw you till like you and i were hanging out till 8 p.m ish so this all happened and on demon time Yeah, I went straight from that hangout to the movie. Wow, double dip.
00:11:10
Think Fresh
Straight from the movie to Subway. Wow. Trip massage. One in the morning, dude. A real adult bender. So you and I, we got trapped in a very precarious situation that I would never wish on my worst enemy.
00:11:23
Think Fresh
We went to a bar who they they came out and they said the words everyone hates to hear when they're at a bar it which is we're doing trivia night tonight. Do you want to join? Fuck me, no.
00:11:34
Think Fresh
hell no i dude trivia nights got to go away you know what the standard response to that question should be no i'll take the bill though yeah 100 get me out of here don't even stay for that because it's going to be so annoying so annoying i don't know why every like it's honestly it's kind of a recession indicator but it's also just if your business is hosting a trivia night like It means you're doing a bunch of things wrong to think that like, that's what you need to draw in business. Like fire your marketing team, rebuild from the ground up, maybe even change your business name.
00:12:05
Think Fresh
Yeah. Like you are not set up for success if you have to have a trivia night. Yeah, no, I totally agree. um Just like make like focus on like having good food and drinks and good music.
00:12:17
Think Fresh
Yeah. Return to the core tenants. Yeah. I mean, dude, I hate when my people choose the spot. I feel like I have to always choose for me to have a good time. And that's like maybe on me.
00:12:28
Think Fresh
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, check their Instagram account and their Facebook page. See what's what's what what events are happening. Yeah. But like when someone says like, oh, let's go check out this cool new bar. and And I go and they have fucking trivia night. It's like, I saw this coming. Yeah.
00:12:42
Think Fresh
And I, I, I showed restraint, you know, cause deep down, I just want to say, no, we're not going there. 100%. Or at least I'm not going there. And, uh, this time I said, you know what? Fuck it. 2025. got to be more inclusive.
00:12:56
Think Fresh
Someone's gotta be. And yeah, I paid the price last night, Ty. I had to eat away my sorrow the subway. Yeah, 100%. One bad choice leads to another. I know, it downward spiral. but Yeah, respectfully, that is on us for not doing our diligence prior to pulling up to the function.
00:13:12
Think Fresh
Yeah. uh but yeah i think trivia night's gotta go dude i have such a strong anti-trivia stance it's not that i don't like knowing things it's great to know stuff but like to try to gamify knowing things is stupid as hell like who cares look just google it who cares and know the whole time they were we were playing i thought you would have to answer and get your grade every question like to check if it was correct um And when i realized like you submitted at the end, I was like, wait, what's stopping me from just Googling all this?
00:13:43
Think Fresh
Your own, yeah, respect for the laws that govern trivia night. I know you were like very vocal against doing that, which I respect because you're a gamesman. At the end of the day, you respect rules. Dude, yeah. you have You have to like work within the constraints. Otherwise the whole thing's a sham.
00:13:59
Think Fresh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very Japanese of you. They love. They would love that. Yeah. But anyways, yeah. the I think the way we abolish trivia night is by just Googling every question every time and getting perfect every single time we go and just getting whatever free shit they give out for the winner.
00:14:16
Think Fresh
So you're going to go to as many trivia nights as possible and you're just going to be like a terrorist there basically just trying to bomb them. Yeah, basically. I think... um Fact bombing them. I don't think you should like seek out Trivia Night, but if you end up in ah in a place where you are held there under duress, you should just fight your way out instead of rolling over. you know what I mean?
00:14:37
Think Fresh
Like, fight the power by taking whatever free shit they're going to give you. Dude, they're settlers. You were there first before the trivia showed up. Before the trivia was initiated. Yeah, you need to get them off your land. Exactly. So heckle them, look up the answers...
00:14:51
Think Fresh
Yell out the answers. That's a good move. Look it up and yell it out. Yeah. It's kind of like entrapment because you go there, you sit down, you order a drink, and then they hand you a sheet of paper with numbers on it.
00:15:02
Think Fresh
and It's like, I got wait for my drink to come back before I can even leave. 100%. Dude, it's the worst. You're trapped. You're trapped. And they're like, you're trapped and you have to do a quiz? Like you have to like do a test in school?
00:15:15
Think Fresh
And they're like smiling at you like, it'll be fun. Give your team a goofy name. And it's never cool when you know the answer. No. Like if the question's asked and you're immediately answered the question, like you just look like a fucking know-it-all dork. Yeah, stupid. You shouldn't know anything, especially after a couple beers.
00:15:31
Think Fresh
Yeah, act like a sandwich artist and be dumb. Yeah. So this is the grand contradiction of the trivia night is you have these strangers demanding of you to spit facts, be smart.
00:15:44
Think Fresh
But all you want to do is like drink an IPA and be dumb and talk to your friends. You don't want to sit there and listen to some stranger yeah yap into a mic about their personal reflection on... I don't know, Bon Jovi's music catalog. Yeah, totally.
00:15:58
Think Fresh
but i hate being forced to spit facts. You know I mean? yeah That's why this is a fact-free podcast. We've never dropped a fact. This is all feelings. um But yeah, Trivia Night's got to go, dude. This is something that we've ah definitely aligned ourselves on.
00:16:12
Think Fresh
yeah But I'll be honest. Feel Stripe. What time is it? It's 3.15. You're welcome. you're welcome yeah an unexpected guest on the podcast this is what happens when you record outside quick get his model release form to make him sign an nda yeah dude it's always homeless people who ask you the time it's like bro you got nowhere to be like what are you waiting for bro like come on yeah it's a really good point oh is he coming back no did he hear me say that yeah i he might have heard you say that no we're good we're clear we're clear yeah dude like
00:16:44
Think Fresh
there's nothing you can possibly be late for. Does it really matter? Yeah. Yeah, dude. um But anyways, Ty, I'm a bit surprised to hear you don't like trivia. know what mean? Like, now that we've talked through, i understand your position on it. But initially, I thought you'd be down to play last night.
00:17:02
Think Fresh
um Because I know you like the novelty aspect of certain experiences, like going out when it includes some kind of funny thing, you usually latch onto that. Yeah, I i intend to um ah optimistically absorb it, yeah but not in the case of trivia, because, Eric, trivia is like it's detached from whatever context it is. It's like it's like a lotus swarming in on a ah country or like a like it's an invasive species in the bar and it and just like an invasive species it's not at all integrated into the context and the culture of it so you got like these people that are like they have nothing in common so you have to the trivia has to be a wide net of questions and it's binary you're either right or you're wrong and that's boring like who cares who cares if you're right or wrong so the truth doesn't even matter
00:17:54
Think Fresh
Yeah, it's more funny to like be tasked with defending Kanye or something. Yeah, yeah. Give me an actual challenge that is un-Google-able.
00:18:05
Think Fresh
Games are fun when you have like an arc of like challenge that you can like learn how to play the game and then get better at it But with trivia... Like, the only way you can get better at it is by allocating way too much brain power to, like, this stupidest thing on Earth, which is facts.
00:18:20
Think Fresh
And it's never, like, a sign of intelligence to know any of these things. It's always just, like, some bullshit. Like, name this fucking song from the fifty s Like, I don't know, dude.
00:18:32
Think Fresh
I had never heard it. Yeah. it's It's like, who cares? Like, Shazam it. Like... it's not It's not a fun game. yeah Maybe when the world was simpler. ah Trivia in the 1900s would have been great because no one really only one person knew the answer and there's only so many questions to ask. And if they did, they killed them because they were a witch. Yeah, exactly. They have a lot less history to work with then too. you know So much has happened recently to make questions about.
00:18:57
Think Fresh
Yeah, all of history was like last
Online Feuds and Political Figures
00:18:59
Think Fresh
week. Yeah, basically. yeah. Big news in the history books today. You notice that ah ah Uncle D and Mr. Musk having a, like, I don't know, like, they're raging at each other online uncle d and mr musk sound like voicemails they do yeah uh they can actually do yeah which candle you pop in yeah yeah um yeah that's that's true i i'm not surprised to see this coming um the fallout of two great powers yeah it's when the uh it's when you're like
00:19:34
Think Fresh
your fuck buddy no longer is like providing and then you just gotta to have to like oust them on twitter you gotta turn on them yeah exactly it's like clearly this was not a real relationship it was just mutually beneficial for some amount of time and then it turned now that it's no longer mutually beneficial it's a public beef but both parties need to come out as top dog here and i don't think i think either i think what we're getting into is like this is like the political equivalent of a rap battle Yeah.
00:20:02
Think Fresh
I think the strongest argument that I've seen in this debate was that um I think Elon said that in like three and a half years, you will be forgotten or something, or like you will like...
00:20:14
Think Fresh
your life is over basically in three and a half years. yeah Whereas like I'm a young buck, you know what mean? yeah that was kind I'm still, I'm still going be kicking for a little longer than that. I got time on my side to continue to be the ruler of the world.
00:20:27
Think Fresh
Yeah, totally. um But it's pretty clear that ah they were obviously doing some illegal activities like, you know, having some kind of personal investment or like whatever some investment in the uh proceedings of the government office you know i mean like oh yeah obviously benefiting musk's businesses and whatnot Yeah, for sure. And Musk probably using his enterprise technology to maybe skew some votes. We don't really know.
00:20:58
Think Fresh
um But it is very interesting. I feel like this is going to make an excellent like Netflix three-part drama in about a decade. Yeah, definitely. When someone does the research and be like, okay, maybe they were both on Epstein's list. And that's what we don't know yet.
00:21:12
Think Fresh
Oh, I mean, i don't think. Okay, well, that's possible. i don't think Elon's on there only because he played that card already. He said that's the reason why the list
Trump's Presidency: Perception vs. Reality
00:21:22
Think Fresh
hasn't been dropped yet. It's because Big Dawn's on there. Big Dawn's on it. Yeah. which Which is not surprising. No, I think that was kind like dull. Yeah, obviously. But also it's like being on the list doesn't necessarily implicate you, I think.
00:21:33
Think Fresh
Like he's a rich guy who invites a lot of people on his plane. What's the big deal? If you're just like a rich guy with a PJ, you're probably on the list. Yeah. Or even like letting Donald borrow it. It's like, here, take the jet.
00:21:46
Think Fresh
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Then you just get passed around those jets, you know, like, ah but like a, that's the billionaire equivalent of a city bike. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. um so we're we're going to need some more damning evidence if we're going to like really turn the tide on this one. Allegations are not enough here.
00:22:03
Think Fresh
But it is entertaining to see two powers turn on each other because that means that you're not going to be able to hurt little guys like us because they're busy if they're busy, preoccupied with bigger fish. Dude, it's crazy how Donald Trump fumbled the presidency already.
00:22:18
Think Fresh
In what way? mean specifically which one is the crazy way well think about it like i think leading up to the election more than half of the country voted for him right so he was doing something right he was able to lie his way into office clearly yeah yeah clearly um few smart people were able to sniff that out i guess but for the most part like it felt like the world was kind of moving in that direction and people were like yeah kind of sick of you whatever other side yeah to generalize but like I feel like everyone kind of unanimously agrees now that he's being a big dumb idiot. idiot
00:22:53
Think Fresh
Yeah. I kind of feel like there's a few missteps happening is one way to put it. Yeah. Yeah. Not doing what he says and doing other things. I think he needs to get like returned to his basics, you know, like photo shoot in the in the white house with a bunch of big Macs, you know, like that kind of shit, you know, like,
00:23:10
Think Fresh
like taco bowl saying he loves mexicans exactly like that kind of shit's so funny and i haven't seen anything like that in a minute you know it's all been too serious i guess like how surprised we be if um we hired the guy who's famous for saying you're fired yeah that's true firing everybody then he fired everybody yeah like like we it's like a bull in a china shop you know what i mean it's like we knew that gonna happen damn you're so right ah Also, quite a few bankrupt businesses bankrupting the country.
00:23:38
Think Fresh
Checks out.
Sandwich Artists and Political Analogies
00:23:39
Think Fresh
Yeah, exactly. sorry You're fired. You're fired. Damn, you're toasted. yeah Anyways, so we'll see where that goes. I think Fresh is on the scene, reporting live. the ground. Boots on the ground. we We're following the Twitter feeds, the Twitter feud.
00:23:54
Think Fresh
See what happens. It reminds me of when my sandwich art just missteps and I have to step in. Of course, correct. correct Of course, correct. Try to get the upper hand here. Hey, that's not what I said. know Make sure they know that they're in the wrong and I'm in the right.
00:24:08
Think Fresh
Yeah, they're they're me merely an individual contributor, whereas you're the manager. Exactly. sound journalist is the IC. I'm a creative director. Yeah, you got to kind of point them in the right direction. Yeah, tell them what to work on.
00:24:19
Think Fresh
Before they run buck wild, you know. Dude, yeah, you have to tell them what to work on because they'll just kind of start doing a side project, you know. They'll start making their lunch. Like, no, no, mine first. Yeah, dude.
00:24:31
Think Fresh
Finish your to-do list. Yeah. We got to figure out when we can get proper nachos there. Yeah, I was telling Pat last night, we got the foot long nachos and he just kind of laughed and i don't think believed me.
00:24:43
Think Fresh
Dude, it's it's a foot long in the sense that like, I guess the diameter was about a foot. c so circumference circumference was a foot yeah it's a foot wide it it's a stupid measurement system that doesn't apply to the food it's flame i wish i wish it did i wish that they actually like embraced the footlong concept with all the food the footlong cookie beautiful they took a cookie and they stretched it that's what they should be doing with everything totally i would love to see a footlong chip
00:25:16
Think Fresh
Yes. Right. If the, if the full on nachos was a bunch of 12 inch chips, all stacked up like lasagna, that'd be sick.
Final Musings on Food and Trivia
00:25:23
Think Fresh
Casserole.
00:25:27
Think Fresh
Fuck man. Well, you got me hungry. So I'm so hungry now. So i think it's time to wrap here. Any closing thoughts? um get outside wear spf toast yourself toast your sandwich um love each other abolish trivia abolish trivia and uh yeah think fresh think fresh ciao