Tribute to John Amos
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This episode is in remembrance of John Amos, the actor who played Uncle Burton. He sadly passed after we recorded, but we would just like to say that we're keeping his family and friends in our thoughts, and we will remember him fondly as Gus's murder aficionado uncle.
Introduction to Hosts and Episode
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everyone. And welcome to Psi 6 101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psych and the antics of Shawn and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, Jessica Fletcher. And today we're talking about season two, episode six of the famed TV show, Psych.
Episode Title Discussion
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Hello. Hello, hello.
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quickly pulling up the name because I did not write it down. Meat is murder, but murder is also murder. Is this kind of maybe the first time it's like a quote from the show? Oh, yeah. Other than, I mean, you know, we've got like American duos, but that's the title of the show in the show.
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But yeah, I think this is the first time we've got like a direct flow. And it's like a full yeah sentence. It's a full compound sentence. Murder is also murder.
Gus's Detective Misunderstanding
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Do you remember how many episodes ago I was talking about Gus saying murder funny? Yeah, I feel like this is it. This is what I was talking about. Murder. Murder.
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he is living in this episode. He is, yeah, prime guster. and Yeah, but I also love it because it's like reluctant at first. And then it's like once he is feeling it, be like, yeah, it's so funny because you can tell he's like, I'm not really gonna correct Uncle Burton, because I don't want to explain this whole thing. But like, also, maybe it's kind of cool that they think I was like a detective. I know. And then when he has to do it, he's like, I know. I
Flashback to Sean and Gus's Childhood
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yeah There's like a lot to say I feel like about the setup of this episode, but should we start at the beginning or should we? Sure. get Okay. Yeah, we can start at the beginning. All right. So we got our a wonderful flashback. Yes. Where we're in the kitchen of Henry's house. All the best things happen in Henry's house. And Henry comes downstairs, looks like he's just woken up, you know, early in the morning. He's in his robe.
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Not the white one. that nigel's needs nigel stole but but ta one yeah And he comes downstairs and Henry notices that there's like some flower on the floor and kind of a mess leading into the pantry.
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You know, we have a moment where he takes in like this crime scene. Yeah, yeah exactly. What has happened here? He's probably got some deductions already. Oh, of course. of course And out comes, you know, Young Sean runs into the kitchen and he is so excited to tell Henry that he made him his favorite muffins from scratch. And Henry, of course, being a dad, but also being a detective,
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realizes, hey, there might be some ulterior motive to you making me these very nice muffins. Like, you might want to go see that movie you've been hoping to see later in the week. And he starts asking Sean a bunch of questions about the muffins, which I thought this was so impressive. Like this whole episode was really impressive on Gus's part.
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Because the the long the long and short of the flashback is that Henry knows Sean didn't make these muffins, and Gus made the muffins.
Gus's Culinary Skills
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Sean is hiding Gus in the pantry, hence why there is like a flower trail into the pantry. like How impressive of Gus at age 7, 8 to make muffins from scratch? Good on him. Yeah. And it does slot in nicely with Gus.
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Just Gus as a person as we know him that he would like make these beautiful muffins. But now that I think about it, we don't really see him cook or bake much in adult life, do we? Not really. The thing that we do see, obviously we have the super sniffer. True. And we kind of know that him and his family are very good at like flavor. Yeah. That's like a game they
Comedic Restaurant Journey
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play. Yeah. Being able to determine what flavors are are in or what smells are in things. So I could imagine just like guess extrapolating off of that, not that we have any necessary evidence of that, but I could imagine from there, like maybe they all cooked together or something when he was a kid. Yeah. Super sniffer didn't come up really. This would have been a good time.
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Yeah, this would have been an interesting time for the super sniffer. And also like, but it's fun thinking like they do have, the gusters do have this knack for flavor and stuff. And then we also see like the eating, you know, like the eating montage. Like in the yeah like they are like, I don't know, like food.
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journeyman or something yeah they're foodies yeah um so that is kind of fun yeah you're right i i wonder why they didn't bring up the super snipper because this would have been like the perfect time not only is it like a mystery where gus is the front man but it's also food like he's so you know he's so good at smelling food yeah maybe
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Maybe it came on, I don't know, I'm thinking like maybe in the writer's room or something, it almost felt like a like a crutch to be like, Gus is the person in charge, it quote unquote, in charge. And we'll get into the the details of that in a second. yeah But to just throw him like, oh, and do you also have the super sniffers maybe like cheating a little bit? Yeah, I mean, mary yeah, maybe it was it was something like They didn't want to pull out like all his superpowers in like an episode like this. Cause we do, he has some, some pharmaceutical superpowers. Right. Yeah. Minorly. Cause I was thinking like the black tongue, I was like, oh, poison, but that's not the poison piece. No. Yeah. He took a, um, you know, Pepto Bismol or whatever. Yeah. And Gus identifies that. So yeah. So maybe like they just didn't want to lean too hard on like yeah his.
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very specific set of skills. Yeah. So we find out that Sean like was totally lying to Henry and was trying to make it seem like he baked the cookies and or cookies, he baked the muffins and no one else had anything to do with it so that he could kind of get out of this poor situation that he was in. How many realizes that it was Gus and Gus comes out and you know, Sean continues with a a bunch of lies. I know. I do think It's also fun, like we're starting to see Sean get more Sean. Yes, absolutely. More, I don't want to say delinquent, but like yeah right yeah I he's grounded he's trying and he's trying to get out so he can go to his movies. So he's just lying to get out of being grounded already. So it's like
Character Honesty and Dishonesty
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he's starting to get into more of like that problem child kind of thing. but But I do like, you know,
Sean's Seriousness Perception
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I don't know, him and Henry still clearly have a relationship. Yeah. Even with all this. I mean, and he's a kid, like
Investigation Setbacks and Doubts
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this is all normal. Yeah. Kid stuff. Yeah, it's interesting though, because I, you know, I feel like usually the flashbacks have a very clear relationship to the episode.
Memory Trigger and Suspect Confrontation
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And I actually almost thought when we saw this flashback that it was going to be the Lion Ryan episode. Yeah. Because he was talking so much about lying and how one lie leads to another.
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But I do feel like it could totally go with that episode. And I just feel like the flying is such
Clue Piecing and Team Dynamics
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so much a part of like the fabric of the show. It could be like that's true anywhere. I know that you know that I'm not telling the truth. Yeah. Like I know I
Humorous Detective Moments
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wrote that down like a lie always leads to more lives. Like that's John's whole life. Yeah. He is living a lie. Yeah. Yeah. Very true. Like anywhere. But I mean, in this episode,
Procedure vs. Truth Pursuit
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like one is interesting, too, because In this episode, Gus being a psychic is not a lie to begin with. It's more of like a misunderstanding.
Uncle Burton's Approval and Episode Highlights
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Yes, true, because the ant misheard him and then read that he was. Yeah. So it's like a misunderstanding that becomes a lie and leads to more lies. And lead that's true, leads to more lies. Yeah, yeah.
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yeah But it is fun, like, they have to, like, the
Next Episode Tease and Credits
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lies. They have so many different audiences that they're playing, which I love. I loved how in the final scene it was like, how are we gonna do this? The cats were this, and and the newspaper things were this, but they're all here together. What are we doing?
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so I mean, it's a really fun episode. like It's such a fun premise. like in know I mean, yeah, it's like true like farce of like yeah yeah dealing with all these different people and having to kind of present themselves in a way that meets all of their different expectations. It's just really fun.
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And it's, I think it really speaks to as well, both Sean and Gus's like, quick wittedness and, and smarts that they can so easily transition from one sphere to the next to the next. Yeah. Make it work so quickly. And they're like, connection. Yeah. Oh my God. They're poor. Like, so good. Like, um, come i come up again later. But, um, like when,
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like Sean has the idea of like how they're going to do it, and they're like running into the police station, and Burton's been filling out his thing, his visitor pass, and so it's like, they don't have time. Sean's like, we don't have time to explain, but it's like they just go with it. and I love that little glimpse of it, because we always talk about like imagining them planning out yeah what they're going to do, and we get to see that a little bit yeah in this episode, but we also see When they don't have time to do that and so they just like are riffing with each other and in yeah I mean they're just so good Yeah, and somehow get each other but exactly cuz if they didn't
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Like if they were just, you know, friends and not this amalgamation of the same brain, Sean could start doing something and Gus could totally just, you know, miss the mark. But here they really understand each other so deeply. Sean starts something and Gus completely understands. Which I think is just so good. and And probably why half the bits work so well, because they just get each other.
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Yeah. Okay. but We'll just go to the setup. like yeah because What I love so much about it, and like this is very much an episode about Shawn and Gus and their shorthand.
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and all of that and but the way like okay so we find out that Gus's family his mom's side thinks that he is the psychic detective because he was on the phone with his like elderly aunt and she misunderstood and told them all that and so his crabby uncle his namesake yeah is visiting and he's already like he doesn't like Gus because his doesn't know by burton I know. I know.
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and so wait yeah and And now I'm kind of forgetting. like Is Gus going to like is gu goingnna come clean initially or or he's just trying to get rid of Burton? He's just trying to get rid of Sean. he's trying to like ah right right right they They were going to go to like lunch or something and Sean was going to stay out of it. They didn't even have a case yet.
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And then Sean brought up that they had a case and Burton is a big TV mystery aficionado. So he is so gung-ho about going on a case with them that he ends up tagging along and now they're kind of stuck in this. Yeah. When Sean catches on that like, my god okay. This is the bit. This is what we're doing. Yeah. Like, okay. So Uncle Burton thinks that Gus is the psychic. And I looked like Sean,
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Like, they could get out of it, probably, but Sean is like, no, no, no. Lean in. Lean into the discomfort, Gus. And Gus says at one point, like, your plan to embarrass me is not going to work because the police aren't going to let. And I love it so much because, like, Sean is messing with Gus so much. But also, there is not a moment that Sean is going to let him look foolish. so Oh, no. Oh, of course not. Like, it's so sweet yeah in a way. Like, it's very funny. Yeah, they're prissy.
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like I mean, yeah, he's just like putting him in a very uncomfortable situation and yeah having a great time doing it. But he's also like, no, you can do this. Like we can do this. It's fine. And like it's really I just love that so much because it's like, yeah.
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Even though he's ripping him and stuff, like he's got his back too much. Yeah, they're really like siblings. I feel like that, especially if you have siblings with a relatively significant age gap, like four or more years, I feel like that's kind of what happens. like You are fiercely protective over your siblings, but you are also the only one who is able to make fun of them.
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yeah And that's kind of the dynamic here. Sean's like, I love you and we're not going to, you know, Burton is never going to know that you're not the psychic, but also I'm going to rib you the entire time and make you very uncomfortable because again yeah I'm allowed to. and Yeah. And I wonder if Sean is thinking from the beginning, like.
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we can win this guy over, you know? Because like clearly this is stressful for Gus like to have this tension and like he ah we see how much he wants to earn this guy's favor as the episode goes on. So like maybe Sean, yeah, like from the beginning is like, you can fix this. Yeah, let's do it. I think so, especially because shaw i mean Sean is just so confident in his psychic ability so for a good reason. I'm sure he was like, I know I can solve this case, so I can solve this case and just make it look like you solved the case.
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resolved problem And And God, it just creates so many fun. I was just going to say. It makes for such a great episode. It really does. I mean. because we i mean There's just so much that, like because we get them playing with the whole assistant to the psychic dynamic and like what that person's role is and Burton. It's confusing to be talking about Burton, but I guess we should say Uncle Burton.
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ah full enjoy Um, Uncle Burton is like so hard on Sean as the assistant, yeah not knowing that Gus is the actual assistant. I mean, just, it's right so fun. Yeah, writes up that contract at the end. Yeah, my god theres on or nobody yeah and Sean again, just like, just tickled by this. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Anything to make us uncomfortable. Oh, it's so funny. Oh, and okay. So.
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a couple things before we move on from just like this initial introduction. I love when Sean comes to Gus and Burton and he's like, Uncle Burton, and he's like, I went to two comic bookstores and three women's volleyball games.
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That's Gus. So funny. It really is Gus, though. The nerdy comic books, but then also trying to pick up women and being unsuccessful. Yeah, in an awkward and unsuccessful way. Yeah. Like creepily watching from the sidelines. Yeah. Like actually meeting them. I'm not even talking to any of the players, just watching. Yeah, probably that. Oh, and then really fun. I'm like, I know this actor on Vogue Burton, but I couldn't I couldn't put my finger on it and I looked and he is from the West Wing. This is our first like West Wing crossover moment, I think. Wait, and that's so cute that they're family. You know what, I didn't even think about that, but yeah, that is really cute. And also, okay, so I think it was John Amos. Let me just confirm his name. Yeah.
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um And he plays Admiral Fitzwallis on the West Wing. And he's great. Love Fitzwallis. And this actor is truly a chameleon because those characters are not like I, because again, I like couldn't place it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He looks kind of familiar, but it's like the The way of speaking is kind of different. like He just really embodies Uncle Burton. Yeah, so well. So good. So so yeah this like kind of disgruntled, cranky, disapproving. Yeah, one of my favorite little, I feel like just character, it just feels so intentional is when he's like, this is better than Ghost Whisperers. Yacht Ghost Whisperer.
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christmas per christmas fors which is an uncle thing to say that's a uncle thing to say
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but to like boomer things my god so funny for the fact that like i loved well I guess this is 2007. I don't know. I love that he wrote the family back home that he was literally just about to go see a card. Uncle Burton is a drama king. Oh my gosh. Absolutely.
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writes this postcard. And then the minute, the moment Gus like, screws up a little bit. Yeah. part is it going to hey and no i it Yeah. And like the way he, I forget what he's like grumbling to himself, like psychic. Yeah. Yeah. He's very grumbly. And then his, yeah, pretty much done. He's like, I don't want to do this anymore. Let's go. Yeah. He, he's very,
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conditional with his affections. Yeah. Well, it sounds like that's that's typical for him just as a person, not necessarily just with Gus. and Gus throws out at one point that you know his cousin took him to the Super Bowl in a helicopter and Uncle Burton didn't even say thank you for that. like he's Yeah, definitely holds his emotions very close to his chest. Or just never is happy. Yeah, who knows? Who knows his life story?
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I know. Even he mentioned at one point having a wife and I'm like, huh, like I didn't even like, I can't really imagine him with a wife. No. I imagine him by himself. Yeah, that's that's fair. Like in ah in a nice easy chair or what do you call a lazy boy? Yeah, both of those are.
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Okay, so we've realized that there's a case and we're all on board with pretending that Gus is the psychic. So we go to the crime scene, which happens to be the house of a food critic.
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And inside we find him dead on the floor after eating his wife's chicken soup that night. And the police don't think that there's any foul play, they don't really see anything wrong, but I guess they just want Shawn and Gus there to confirm and feel out the scene and talk to the wife. She's acting a little suspicious. Yeah, well one thing is it's just Jules, right? Like is Lassie even there at this point? Oh! And she says like, I don't think it's her, blah blah blah, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Which is so Jules, like Lassie would not have. Very true. We also need to address the fact that Lassiter has a sling.
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this whole episode and they refuse to address it. Which I love. That is fun because like I assume Timothy O'Mud's in his arm. Yes. And I love when that happens when they, I mean, not that I love that he is hurt. No, of course not. I love that they like write it in, but also the fact that they like decided that he write it in, they just wrote in that he would not tell them. Which is very lasseter. I feel like totally he would be like, this is too personal, I don't want to share it. Yeah, exactly. So we're just not discussing. Back into my arm.
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Like, at one point, I also thought it was hysterical. Another little, like, minor throw they give Lassie when they're back at his desk and they have the food critic's, like, notes. He grabs a water bottle and goes to the sprays like a fern. Oh, I didn't notice that! I was like, since when's Lassie? There's a flint! He doesn't straighten. The human's just one to... A flinched out human, you know? He's got full life that we know nothing about.
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It's slinging from one arm. Aw, classy. That's like a serious green thumb. like Not even just like a you know pouring some water in there, but a spray bottle. Spray bottle, I know. And it's not like there's a lot of light in there. I mean, nothing was lush. Lush. Who knew? Okay, so put that on his hortical personality yeah assessment, which We'll get into this later, but we got some other things to discuss. Oh, my gosh. They started talking about it. I was like, we are. I'm like, OK, and Aries, and. And Senator Aries. Got it. ah Oh, I can't wait. But yeah, so. Oh, yes. So yeah. So it's Jules. Jules is like she's acting a little bit suspicious. can Can you read her? And Gus and Sean take a moment in the kitchen away from Uncle Burton.
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because Gus is kind of freaking out. And I love the line where Sean was just like, this isn't a big deal. You make some observations, form a conclusion, and then you reveal it to everybody in a ridiculous or roundabout way. No. Boiling down this whole thing. And he's like, look, and just goes like you know rummaging around through the kitchen and says, take out containers, raw chicken next to vegetables, and a burnt pot. What does that tell you in Gus?
00:22:53
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I don't know. She's a bad cook. He's like, yes, you're on fire. I love that so much. And it's so in a way like Sean is kind of underplaying like what he is able to do. Oh, you know, like he's like, which is very, I don't know. I'm like, oh, Sean, like,
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You bring a lot. You're very impressive, but it's really sweet that he's like, no, Gus, like you've got like you can do it. Well, yeah, I think it's so cute that he's like his biggest cheerleader this whole life. Yeah. Got it, Gus. Come on. It's OK. Yeah. And like random words, do you know what's happening. Yeah. And he like he's like.
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the way he just gives him some information and he's like, yeah, that's it. like That's all it is. you know yes You're just making guesses. yeah yeah There's a moment later where like it is the two of them who like kind of crack yeah like um like the idea, I think, that it's somebody from the newspaper, which we get there. But um just that we see it's like it does take both of them, yeah even when they're in private. yeah At that moment, they're just like having a conversation. it's like Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I think they, they're really good springboards for each other. Because I think for as ridiculous as Sean is and for as serious as Gus is,
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It's often at like the other end of the spectrum that they'll end up working out things. you know and i like Sean will randomly decide, or Sean will randomly be kind of serious and figure something out, or Gus will randomly be like, in this case, I don't know. She's a bad person. I'm just making a wild guess, but he's right. you know so they yeah they do they They work together very well.
00:24:37
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Yeah, and it's really fun that this episode really does showcase that because there are so many jokes about what the assistant or whatever doesn't bring to the table. and like Just that through line, that game they're playing the whole time is like, but we see before our eyes that they are a team. like They can't do this without each other. yeah like they are so tight and connected and like I mean even like the final nutshelling it like it has to be both of them on equal ground yeah um it's just well constructed like when you think about it like both those layers yeah so good great stuff I wonder why I wonder why they actually refer to Gus as assistant because he really isn't Sean's assistant
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I don't think they do. Oh, he says this is my partner. That's true. He doesn't. Yeah, they don't. But I think with Burton. Oh, because that's part of like what his family thinks. He's like, and they think you're my. And he's like, and he lists a bunch of things. Actually, that one was really funny. What is it? ah you think Wait, wait. I wrote it down. And they think you're gay, German, invisible.
00:25:49
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So funny, my assistant. So like that's what it is. it's like they don't um They don't introduce that as part of the game. I was going to say, because that doesn't really make sense for the yeah for their dynamic. That makes way more sense. And then that's why we get the whole subplot of what the assistant should edge and shouldn't do. yeah And I feel like one of the reasons Sean is able to have so much fun with that is that he knows they're not. like white that He knows they're more equal than yeah yeah they're presenting.
00:26:18
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yeah Absolutely. I don't think Sean would ever even allow Gus to be like the quote unquote assistant. huh like We've seen in episodes past, I'm thinking of like Weekend Warriors and um a couple others where he's just like, Gus, like you're my like you're my guy. like We do this together, kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah yeah he can't do it without, if he's doing something alone, it's like,
00:26:47
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At some point, he's like, okay, I gotta go bring Gus in because it's like he needs his friend and his witness and his partner. And I think we've mentioned before, like at some point, like he does introduce them both as like, we're psychic detectives. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Which I love. Yeah, so cute. You know what I also noticed?
00:27:09
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What? In this first scene, or this first day, rather, because this is like a three day affair in the world of sight. The first day, Gus is wearing green. Oh my God, the is the psychic color.
00:27:28
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Makes sense because of the logo too. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Maybe that's why the logo had to change because they're like green is the sight color. It's the psychic color. Makes sense. I think.
00:27:39
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Wow, I love that. Yeah. So they're there and they they end up talking to the wife and the wife is like, oh, you know, he rated everything I did. I never scored above two stars, which this poor wife. Yeah. He hated my cooking. Yeah, that's tough.
00:27:58
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And Sean was like, well, why why do you keep cooking for him then? And I guess the doctor had recommended some healthy home cooked meals because he would eat out every night being a food critic. So she cooked him some chicken soup.
00:28:13
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and Sean notices on the way out that the guy's tongue is black and I love, love, that the jump on Sean's part was to go to the candy store and get every flavor of lollipop because clearly that would change. I know. Do you think he really thought that it was a lollipop or was he just like, I want to buy all the lollipops? You know, probably the latter, but but I love the idea of the former. It's so funny.
00:28:42
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He is a detective, gosh darn it. He's got to rule out the lollipops. Yes, he needs to find all of the evidence, make sure that, you know, it's not actually lollipops. But Gus knows that it's whatever he calls it, bismuth, sallus, slate, something, and don i don't I don't know, Pepto-Bismol, something like that. And he might, I mean, he must have downed a gosh darn lot of it if it turned his tongue black because... Yeah, I wonder if that...
00:29:10
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is something like also like he, because he died, like some sort of like sensitization or something like that. Cause like, hmm. That would make more sense. That doesn't happen to everybody who takes Pepto-Bismol. I have never ever noticed someone with a black tongue after they take Pepto-Bismol. Not that I'm looking at people's mouths after they take Pepto-Bismol, but it never stood out, you know?
00:29:33
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I noticed when tongues are blue from lollipops are things I would yeah and I would notice black anyway. um So Sean uses this to extrapolate which is really what he he does and it's really quite amazing a lot of the times he uses the fact that he was drinking pepttoismmal to say, Pepto-Bismol plus chicken soup, chicken soup you take when you're sick, Pepto-Bismol you take when you have an upset stomach, means that he wasn't feeling well. And if he wasn't feeling well, then the poison couldn't have come from the dinner, must have come from something he ate at a restaurant, ergo, he was murdered. Wow. Yeah, he was poisoned at a restaurant. yeah that
00:30:11
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They get that. Yes. You you were so close Gus, but poison. I wanted you to say poison. I know. And I love that. Even that is so cute. Like it takes me back to like um in peace forever hold your peace when you know when he's like, you need the remedial. Yes. Like he's like walking him through. Yes.
00:30:32
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But before that even happens, we get some of the most fun. Like, we really get into Gus playing sidekick, which we had a little bit at the kitchen because Sean's like, put your finger to your head, it really sells it. I'm getting something. Yeah, so he did do that already. um But now Sean's like, call on the spirits.
00:30:56
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It's so so funny. He's singing, Oh, spirits. Which I feel like always willing to say helping him. I feel like we've heard Sean say, Oh, spirits. Or I feel like we will hear him say that. Yeah.
00:31:16
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It kind of reminds me of the seance, what kind of the impression he's doing and like the arms out, because that's also from the seance. Yes, a good point. Which it is fun to think about like Gus, like Sean isn't making Gus uncomfortable putting him on the spot and all this and then Gus is like, okay, I'm going to do an impression of you. yeah
00:31:35
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That's again just like such a friend thing to do in this horrible situation. I'm going to make you feel uncomfortable too. Yeah, I'm gonna make you feel stupid. But of course, Sean is like impervious to this. He's loving it. Loving every moment. Yeah, but that whole thing and then when the spirits do.
00:31:56
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come to us in the game of charades that they play.
00:32:11
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ah way out way out uncle burton goes for and she was like how could you kill a nose yeah
00:32:22
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Oh my god. so And when Burton, Uncle Burton like excitedly looks back at Sean like, oh you see in this and Sean just has to like freeze really quick. Oh my god, so good. Oh, it's too much. These little bits of that forces that the situation forces to happen are just pure gold. Like they're just so good. I mean, yeah, it's the best. And this really is like one of my favorite just styles, I don't know, like, it like, Frasier is really good at them. Just like these sparse episodes where like, we just keep, I mean, it's, I guess in the, in the lesson, a lie always leads to more lies. Like we keep, we have to keep heightening. Yes. Yeah. And that is like the most fun thing to watch. Absolutely. I agree. Yeah. It's so entertaining. So this is when Sean goes to, to Vic's office and they have to pretend they have to find a way
00:33:18
Speaker
so that the department still believes that Sean is the psychic, but Uncle Burton believes that Gus is the psychic and for that to happen at the same time, h which is pretty convoluted when you think about it. So Sean has this brilliant idea, it comes to him in a flash, that he, well, he doesn't tell Gus any of this, but we need to find out. No time to explain, very dramatic, that Sean is going to,
00:33:49
Speaker
essentially act as if the spirit world is so jumbled that he can't translate. He needs someone else to translate for him. And of course, who would that be other than magic head himself, Gus? So when Gus comes in and Sean is spewing just nonsense, Gus is able to translate, therefore, you know,
00:34:07
Speaker
The police think that Gus is translating for Sean, and if Uncle Burton doesn't listen too closely, he also missed the whole beginning and part of it where Sean explains it. Yeah, because that's why Sean has to get there before Gus is like, he's like, stumbles in and it's just like, monkey. I want to say monkey, monkey eye and her pants. That's good girls. Monkey and her pants. He says a couple of really wacko ones. I couldn't even, I can't even remember them because they're just total randomness.
00:34:34
Speaker
But yeah, so Gus ends up essentially extrapoler not properly translating for Sean that the wife had nothing to do with it, he was poisoned at a restaurant, and they should check the check out containers in the fridge.
00:34:53
Speaker
were the big things. And Sean ends up realizing that the most recent one, the most recent takeout would have been the most likely culprit, which had like a big swoopy A. Apparently Gus eats out at fancy places often. We get some more. Oh yeah, that's, we had some lore. Which he got bringing back to Gus the chef. But he is like a kind of a yuppie. He's a busy man. So maybe he just doesn't have time. That's fair to cook for himself. Yeah.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, maybe he likes to cook for others and doesn't really get the opportunity. That's nice. Well, there is that, there is that one episode I'm thinking, um, Oh goodness. That one episode with the radio executive where yeah she like comes over his house and he's supposed to cook. Yeah, that makes sense. So maybe he wants to cook for others.
00:35:42
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, cooking is definitely, at the end of a long day, cooking is yeah times a lot of mental effort. I totally get that. He does have two demanding jobs. My gosh. One, very demanding with very little pay.
00:35:57
Speaker
um The other, demanding, but apparently not so demanding because he can like finish his route in a day. That's true. It's probably one of those jobs where like if he has to get it done, he yeah can, but also it could probably suck your soul out. if you're yeah well and and I imagine too, like pharmaceutical sales, I bet if you really wanted to, or if you wanted to be like good at your job,
00:36:22
Speaker
It probably includes a lot of like handshaking and talking. Shmoozing, yeah. Which we do get to see that side of Gus. Yeah, which is fun. And times, yeah. Yeah. So I guess if you if you really wanted to, you could spend a whole week probably really shmoozing people and trying to convince them to buy your product. But if you didn't want to, you probably could just drop the samples off and say, all right, bye. And go. So I wonder if that's what starts happening. Here's a fun a little bit further back. but um and When they're at the office with Uncle Burton and Sean, it's like, if I can have this, I'd probably have to get a foreign job like pharmaceutical sales. I think that's like not missing a beauty. It's like, that's actually a very exciting interest, a very exciting industry. yeah So funny. Too much. Always a ribbon on his pharmaceutical knowledge, which comes in handy. so so Yeah. Stop bugging him about that.
00:37:19
Speaker
And Gus is very passionate about pharmaceuticals. He does love his pharmaceuticals. He loves his knowledge about them. He does. I feel like Gus is a collector of random knowledge. That's a good point. He likes to know stuff. Yeah, he does. Coins, comic books, stamps, movies, pop culture in general. Yeah.
00:37:48
Speaker
know a lot I feel like we could, similar to counting all of Sean's jobs, I feel like we could count all of Gus's like hobbies, like all his likes. Totally. um Yeah, in that way they are similar, huh? Yeah. Just a lot of different interests. Yeah. think and I also think that's like so fun, just as a person. I think often when Oftentimes when we get kind of stuck in like the cycle of life, it's really easy to just do the same thing every single solitary day. Absolutely, yeah. I think it's so wonderful that they just like, let's try this new thing. Like, let's do that. I know. I mean, that that really fits into like our whole um interpretation of the show about like the meandering and like life and like the child, like being the child within your yourself or whatever and like maturing.
00:38:39
Speaker
um Because yeah, I think grownups do have like a harder time sometimes, like just being willing to play and like have hobbies. And like, especially like now, like there's everything, every hobby you have, it's like, oh, how can we monetize your hobby? For real. That element, but like these two are just, they're just fumbling along, having a great time. Yeah, absolutely. I love it. It's so nice. Yeah. So we find out.
00:39:12
Speaker
from Gus's extensive restaurant knowledge, add another thing to the guster list, that the last takeout box, which had a swoopy A on it was from Antonio's. So they go to visit, which apparently Antonio's is like a five star restaurant. So very fancy. Yeah. They do say that. And then also.
00:39:34
Speaker
Wagner never wrote a good review of it, right? Yeah, Chef Antonio said that. But I also then wonder, I also wonder what that means. Yeah, right. Because for example, as an educator who has to go through essentially reviews multiple times a year, right, observations, you know, someone can write like one little thing and I'm like, oh, like why? This is bad. That is very true. And you know, know seems like a perfectionist.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah, so I wonder if it really wasn't like a horrible review, but just not as blowing as maybe he wanted. Yeah. And therefore he interpreted it as never getting a ah good review. But who knows? I mean, we don't actually get to see or hear any of the reviews that Wagner ended up giving. We just kind of hear about him as a person. Yeah. That's pretty much all we, I mean, that's pretty much all we learn, I guess, while we're there. Yeah, so we can get like some produce.
00:40:32
Speaker
when we're at Antonio's. Yeah. I do love the line because they say they're health inspectors. Oh, yeah. We're a surprise. section in Antonio's like, we just haven't like The other day, like, what, is there something wrong? And he's like, and Sean's like, you weren't surprised enough. Honestly, such a good response though. Cause what are they going to say to that? Like, Oh, okay. Yeah. Good, good point. And Antonio is a good sport about that. Yeah. He has this like look around, but he's, he's like, okay, let's go through it. He doesn't throw them out. I mean, he doesn't even really look at the badge that Sean shows. He's like, okay, fine. Here we go. Let's do it again.
00:41:15
Speaker
And in the time that they're there, I guess, yeah, Lassie and Jules get back the talkscreen report that Vic had them run after Gus said poison in the office, saying that Wagner ate a deathcap mushroom.
00:41:34
Speaker
which killed him and they also found that same mushroom in the risotto that he had in the fridge from Antonio's. So they come and they arrest Chef Antonio knowing that he has not really liked Wagner and also obviously he got the risotto from Chef Antonio's place. However, Sean notices that the mushrooms are different. Mushrooms on the risotto in the fridge were cubed And the mushrooms in the restaurant are sliced, which means not the same risotto. Different person prepared them. Mm-hmm. Which is un problema. So. And I do love that moment, Sean, being like, uh-oh, Gus is like, what? You got the wrong guy. The wrong guy. Man. Man. Yeah. Well, especially because I'm sure
00:42:31
Speaker
I'm sure from Sean's perspective, it was like, okay, Burton was here, Uncle Burton was here, he solved it, closed case, he's gonna love Gus, and I was like, gosh, we gotta keep doing this. What are we gonna do next? I thought we solved it, you know? I can totally get that being a little bothersome, but Uncle Burton is thrilled, regardless. He shakes Gus's hand and thanks him for an incredible day.
00:42:59
Speaker
which Gus is like over the moon about. So now he's like, he's on board now. Yeah, this charade. Maybe I've got to see it through because he is gonna win Burton over. There was a really funny line in that in that little scene where he was like, do you you know, it's something along the lines of like,
00:43:22
Speaker
You know why he, he like approves of me or something. And Gus was like, you know why in Chungus, you don't have the braids anymore? I was like, I didn't even catch that. I cannot imagine Gus with braids. Wow. yeah He is just a a domed man in my mind, you know?
00:43:41
Speaker
beautiful shiny head. Yes. I mean, even when he's a kid, like he's, certain he's not long it's very short, but it's very short. Yeah. It really mimics how he currently or present day looks in the show. I just can't even imagine him with long hair because we never, we never see that. yeah We never see that. go So the braids have been so much fun. who And then we go to the paper. Yes. Which, Oh wait, there's one more line that I wrote down. Oh yes.
00:44:12
Speaker
maybe They must still be in the kitchen, but... um Gus is saying like, we should talk to other people and see who else has motive. And John's like, you're going to start a crime fighting revolution with talk like that. Yeah, it's so good. Gus is like, you say stuff like that all the time. true Yeah, true. Again, Gus wanting to like have the good line. Yeah, it's a recurring challenge for Gus. Yeah, that is kind of funny. but We've talked about like,
00:44:43
Speaker
Sean wanting to be cool and like too cool for Gus's stuff, but Sean does kind of have this like natural ease of I don't want to say coolness, but you know what I mean? Like this natural ease. Yeah, that's, yeah. Something to him. And Gus is always just a little like,
00:45:02
Speaker
a little off on that. like He's trying a little bit too hard. I suppose. Yeah. He wants it too much. Yeah. I feel like that it's mimicked so well in in they're saying these very like intense lines. Sean always always gets a good one and Gus tries to have a good one but he's trying too hard and Sean's like, yeah. Yeah. Sean just loves to...
00:45:26
Speaker
rhythm them about it. Oh absolutely. Yeah so then we go to the paper because we're gonna meet some more people. We go to the paper to see if we can find who doesn't like. Oh yeah, other chefs. We're still looking at chefs. Yes, other chefs that don't like him. So we're thinking like, let's look at the other reviews or anything. So they asked to see some hate mail if they have it. The assistant pulls out this like massive binder of just multiple different types of hate mail. These are all from angry chefs. We call them the angry chef letters. It's like, oh, clever.
00:46:08
Speaker
guess is like, oh, so it's like hate mail. And he goes, well, ranges all the way from mildly disgruntled mail to like murder mail or whatever he said. That's amazing. Yeah. to I don't know what the last thing he says is. And then Sean's like, how about I would like to kill you now. And he's like, yeah, you have that too. Like, wow, that's so great. We also have a fun moment getting into the When they get into the newsroom, there's like a true walk and talk, which is such an air is dorking thing. So I don't know if they were like really playing with the West Wing yeah nod, but I would think so. That was one. This is pre newsroom.
00:46:49
Speaker
Sorkin's one of his other shows, but still fun. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, something that Gus, or I guess not Gus, Dulay Hill would have had to do often on the West Wing. Yeah. So it's kind of fun. Very much. Yeah.
00:47:06
Speaker
We find out that there were a couple of different chefs that fell into that want to kill you male section. They end up going to four different places, although one of them did not want to kill you. Yeah, never even reviewed him. But they end up eating a ridiculous amount of food. Yeah, the montage is fun. Oh, it's so fun. And I love I just loved also like the restaurants that they picked to go to, like a jambalaya like southern like barbecue almost place. Like Creole. Yeah, sushi restaurant. Yeah, ramen. Like a French lady. Yeah, it was like a it looked like a bakery or something. Just a bakery. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably because then they like
00:47:54
Speaker
asking more questions. Maybe you should send a song with some cookies. Yeah. So good. And they are just, I mean, stuffing their faces. Yeah. I was thinking this would be, this could be a fun psychologist or in, because I feel like there's always interesting stories about when actors have to eat on set. Yeah. Because it's like they do so many you takes and stuff and it's like really hard to do. And they were definitely. I would be curious that's what they have to say about it. Yeah. Like so much, like I wonder if they did it on like multiple days or like just how that went down.
00:48:24
Speaker
Or if they're like, here's your singular noodle, you're allowed to eat this too. Yeah, that's tough. I can only imagine. But yeah, it was really cute to see them again, especially knowing that they are eventually going to be yeah they're having the time of their life. Yeah, they are so enjoying this. Yeah, I also love like, ah so there's like, the jambalaya guy says he Wagner called his jambalaya jambalaozi jambalaozi. And then
00:48:55
Speaker
The sushi chef says that he called his miso soup, miso disappointed, or miso something, miso disappointed. yeah And they got a giggle out of that. and then but And then the bakery lady is like, he called my tiramisu ass cake. Like just the escalation of like these like puns and then just ass cake.
00:49:22
Speaker
It's so ridiculous. But also fun too, because you know we have you know like the rule of three in comedy, right? Yeah. Then they subvert it on the left. Perfect. So stupid. I just love it. Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:42
Speaker
And oh, this, I really liked this, this part. They come out of the last restaurant, which looked like maybe it was like a seafood place or something, which was the one that hadn't gotten reviewed by Wagner. And they walk outside and I guess Uncle Burton maybe goes to get the car or something. And it's just Shawn and Gus. And Gus is thinking.
00:50:03
Speaker
Like this is a great job. Like the French lady said, why would he be so cranky? Like all you got to do all day is eat good food. Like why why is he upset? And Gus goes, yeah, who wouldn't want to have that job? Maybe we're looking at the wrong people. Maybe we shouldn't be looking at the reviews, but we should be looking at people at the paper. And I was like, Gus.
00:50:22
Speaker
Well, I feel like he doesn't make the conclusion though. It's like he says, this is such a cushy job. And then Sean's like, we're looking in the wrong place. I feel like that's how I think so because I was thinking that too, like does this crack in the case? And then I was like, no, they both are like, it's like they needed each other.
00:50:41
Speaker
to like that they have to crack it together and it actually now that you're like laying it out it's kind of like when they're in the kitchen and Gus is able to make all the observations but then Sean is like okay like he has to kind of tell him like okay so what does that mean right like so Gus is kind of like psychic detective in training a little bit like you can see it right but Sean makes the leap well and I feel like that in like any skill that you're learning, right? That is always the hardest thing to do. yeah Identifying the things is always easy, but then the production of the extra, like the idea is so hard. Yeah. And when you think about it, like a lot of the flashbacks, like we see Henry do that to Sean, like, okay, what do you see? So what does that mean? You know? So it's like, Sean is kind of, it's like a teaching moment. Yeah.
00:51:36
Speaker
A little Gus and Sean, except Henry is very influential. they that teaching style. yeah So once once they realize that maybe it's someone at the paper, Sean's got a brilliant idea. They're gonna go. And I was just gonna say try out. That's not right. app Apply? Yeah, just like make them. I mean, yeah, I'm curious how that goes down because basically they're like,
00:52:05
Speaker
Well, the editor of the paper doesn't talk to anybody because he's really busy. He was the one leading our walk and talk. We had to keep up with him. And then, so like, what are we going to do? John's like, got an idea. And we cut to him reading the staff in the conference room. So I'm curious if he's just like, he's walking, maybe just crashed their meeting.
00:52:28
Speaker
Honestly, knowing him probably. Yeah. Yeah. Because yeah because it's not even, it's not really applying. It's not really like, because that there's not a position, I don't think. Like he's just like, I don't know. Because then he says you're our new astrological forecaster. Like he then gets to do the horoscope. Yeah. So i'm what yeah I wonder if he was like, I can do your horoscope or maybe there was Yeah, was there was the position already there or did he create the position is the question. Yeah, I feel like he must have just created it. That's fair that's a very Sean thing to do. Yeah. And again, like expanding their repertoire because yeah now he's he hasn't really forced writer. Yeah, he hasn't played with astrology much but more witchcraft.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yes, more witchcraft. I loved just, of course, he has to be ridiculous with the horoscopes. It is so funny. So funny. And I love Gus going to him and being like, what is this?
00:53:28
Speaker
You know they're supposed to be vague, right? And Sean's like, I know, I did it on purpose. He's like, I wrote them with specific people in mind. Yes. Duh. Duh. Hello. He's like, I'm taking advantage of this situation. Are you kidding me? It's so silly. I just love this twist on the episode too. We had a lot going on in this episode. yeah yeah There's the restaurant review. We've got Uncle Burton following us around. We've got, like, Mushroom Man, which we've been out there yet. Not yet. We will, though. There's so many players. And then, like, again, the heightening. It's like, now he's going to work at the newspaper. Yeah. And now we have this, like, astrology comic. It's like a D-plot, basically. Like, just this little, like, it's just, I love how they build so much into it. They do. And even though there's so much, it doesn't feel overwhelming.
00:54:18
Speaker
Right. And it feels, yeah, it feels natural. Very natural. Yeah. That of course he would go and work at the paper. And yeah write ni war answer to our problems here, which is be a part of the paper, which is so Sean too. It's like, Oh, we have a ah case at the planetarium. I work there now. I work yeah was thinking that would be like a fun count. Like not just Sean's jobs that we hear about, but Sean's jobs that he gets in order to solve a case.
00:54:47
Speaker
Ooh, that would be a good count. Well, we definitely already have two. Planetarium. I know. Paper. Are there others? I think we might have to go back and check. I know. this that We're gonna have to start over when we're done and be like, okay, now we're counting. We're not gonna talk about anything else. We're just gonna count everything. Just gonna count. ah Fair enough. Double check our tallies. Yeah. Yeah,
00:55:11
Speaker
um yeah so. Do we want to get into the astrology? way we I mean, we've been wanting to get into the astrology of the characters. I mean, we will have to do it probably more in depth at some point, but like Minnesota maybe. Yeah. i I mean, we get canonical signs. We do. Yeah. Sun signs. At least for three of them. Yeah. Carlton, Jules, and Henry. Yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
And we don't have to get too much into what it all means. But one thing I love, so Carlton and Jules, Carlton's and Aries, Jules is a Libra. Those are polar signs. Okay. So they're like on the opposite sides of the wheel. Okay. The wheel of signs. So they like compliment each other and they have so much to learn from each other. Makes sense. Which is like, I'm like, I wonder if they... I'm sure.
00:56:08
Speaker
or four um yeah I can't mention them not thinking that because everything's so thought out. Yeah, I just love that. um but Aries is cardinal fire, a lot of energy, a lot of just like... you know like It could be like lashing out of people in the way that Lassie does. Oh, makes sense.
00:56:40
Speaker
And then Jules, Libra is like the classic justice sign. It's all about relationships, all about balance, looking and seeing harmony. Yeah, it's so Jules. Yeah, so Jules.
00:56:54
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And then Henry Sagittarius Sagittarius is like really fun sign. It's like adventure and like it can be really charming and um it's I think yeah mutable fire so like we're like
00:57:12
Speaker
more, I don't know, the way Lassie's energy would be like very like yeah initiatory or something like yeah Henry would be more kind of um like a flickering flame. That's so interesting.
00:57:36
Speaker
Because Henry definitely strikes me as, like I could see Henry being an adventure seeker, if you know what I mean. In a different way than Sean's an adventure seeker. But an adventure seeker nevertheless. h Like the fact that he will eventually go back to the police department. Me too, yeah. He can't really.
00:58:02
Speaker
He can't really stay out of it, you know? The fact that even he helps Sean in all of these things is always part of what's going on. So that's cool. Yeah, we'll have to do like a ah deep dive into yeah each of their signs and maybe what we think our other three are too. I know. I wonder if we ever get like birthdays and stuff from everybody. I feel like we looked up Sean before because when we've tried to like figure out what his how old he is. Yeah. Did we get a specific day or did we just get a year?
00:58:43
Speaker
The Twitter account fictional character birthdays says March 24th, 1977. March 24th. Oh, so he would be Aries too. Yeah. He would have just missed Pisces because I'm Pisces. Ooh. Interesting.
00:59:04
Speaker
And maybe, could this be why Lassie and Sean butt heads? Yeah, absolutely. All right. This is why, okay? Period. This is why they butt heads. What about Gussie? Oh, I just Gus birthday. Probably have to be a little more specific.
00:59:25
Speaker
Side note, can I ever tell you about um the show of The Curse of Oak Island? Mm-hmm. yeah there's this show, not really important to the funny part of the story, but there's this show about like a treasure hunt up in Nova Scotia, Canada. And wait we used to watch it as a family altogether when I was younger. And my dad used to call it Broke Island instead of Oak Island because they like dumped all this money into trying to find this treasure and still haven't found it. So one day we're sitting on the couch trying to watch like the new episode of Oak Island and you know those remotes that you can like push push to talk kind of thing. My mom goes show me Broke Island and went oh I don't think that's gonna work.
01:00:13
Speaker
I feel like that's a good question. Did you get one for Gus? Not a day. It's a December. Oh. um So we must know maybe in one of the Christmas episodes that his birthday is around. Oh, okay. um So it could be Sagittarius or Capricorn. I would lean I think towards Capricorn. Okay. Although if it turned out to be Sagittarius, we can make an argument for it for sure. But the kind of stoic energy of Capricorn I could see.
01:00:42
Speaker
m Yeah, he is. you know He's very like, there's like a frugality with him. yeah um He has other parts too. Other personality traits that are a little more zany, but you know, we all have a lot going on in our charts. so Very true, very true.
01:01:03
Speaker
Yeah, it would be nice to get like, I don't know, we need times, right? Canonical times to have a full chart. chart Yeah. well I mean, they're just tools to better understand, home cell you know, yeah the human goings on so we could make some guesses and play with it. See what we think. yeah but Yeah. So those are revealed in because we see each of those characters read their horoscopes.
01:01:40
Speaker
ah hu i I mean, they're all great. But okay, so Carlton, should we pull them up? Sure. you want to read Yeah, the full thing. Yeah, pretty good. Okay.
01:01:52
Speaker
Aries, calcium is especially important to you right now, Mr. Salt and Pepper Hair with the maroon car. There may also be a permission promotion in your future. Try walking backwards through doorways for good luck. Oh, I love the salt and pepper hair with the maroon car. I know. So funny though, that's not a red flag to anybody. No, of course not. How would that be a red flag? It doesn't even faze Jules. No, not at all.
01:02:18
Speaker
um What she sticks on is Carlton, are you expecting a promotion? yeah yeah um And for the rest of the episode we see him... um walking backwards through doors because he really wants to move up in his career. Yeah. I love how as the episode progresses, he tries to make it more and more casual. At the end, he's like, all right. There you go. OK, goodbye. So funny going into the restaurant. He's like, you know, just making sure no one's behind me. The top always knows. Oh my gosh.
01:02:58
Speaker
Okay, and then Jules, Libra, your one true love will be wearing sneakers and an Applejack's t-shirt. It's kind of a weird detail. Just kind of. And this is when we get the very, very iconic Applejack's t-shirt on. Yeah, yeah. Cut to yeah coming out on Shawn and Applejack's t-shirt. Which I also think it's so funny that As soon as that happened, she wasn't like, Sean had a hand in this. I know. There is something sweet about like the suspension of disbelief that's happening here. Because yeah, between the two of them, do you think they might be able to make that leap? But we don't. so You just must be her true love. um Henry's comes up later. We can do that one later.
01:03:49
Speaker
We go into the editor, I guess, the editor's office, and he wants to ask about the food critic or the food critic position. And he's like, ah, everyone, everyone wants to be a food critic. I've got like a hundred application applications. And this is when Sean would like to offer his soothsayer services. to Yeah, I like how they land on sooth services, which soo service is that.
01:04:18
Speaker
No. if you like no
01:04:23
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And they have like a bunch, you know, a bunch of applications and they don't really go anywhere with the applications other than I guess like it's a pile of possible yeah that they can pull from. Then we go to the mushroom guy.
01:04:40
Speaker
And he gives us some vital information and this dude's like totally tripping. He's so funny. I love him and I love the little set with just like the boxes of mushrooms. Yeah. So funny. Yeah. And it is fun because like he seems pretty lucid and then... Yeah.
01:04:57
Speaker
And then he's like, and I know exactly what he looked like. And I love Sean, like the way he like comes with like prayer hands, like, like, tell us to listen. And then he says this bananas thing about. Yeah, he's nine foot tall sunshine coming out of his mouth with a hippopotamus for a hand.
01:05:15
Speaker
Yeah, and really. Oh, it's a surprise. I think that he is that that's his description. Like he plays a pretty straight leading into it, which I think is really fun. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I loved a little bit right before that, where they're like, do you sell death caps? And he's like, No, those things are like seriously dangerous, man. But I And Chiang's like, do you know where to find them? He goes, yeah, there's a few places up in the mountains, but why do you ask? And Chiang goes, why do you ask, why do I ask? He goes, why do I ask, why do I ask, why do you ask? Why do you ask, why do I ask, why do you ask, why do I ask? Because it's like, stop it.
01:05:54
Speaker
so preposterous, but it makes so much sense. Yeah, totally what happened. Yeah, the way Sean is just like on his level, like... Yeah, when you ask, when I ask, when I ask, when I ask. Huh? Tell me why.
01:06:09
Speaker
And so, yeah, so he gives us some some vital information about the description of this man. And I mean, really, also, this will come And coming down to another lie,
01:06:23
Speaker
um ah another piece of wisdom regarding lies that Henry will give us later on, which is in every lie there's a kernel of truth. Mm-hmm. So even here like this is necessarily a lie But there's like a kernel of truth to all of this Obviously he didn't actually see a nine-foot man with sunshine coming out of his mouth and hippopotamus for a hand But because he was yeah tripping It came off to him that way So and and it'll all all kind of make sense a little later on And then we go to the office and
01:06:57
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And this is when we get Henry with his all right let me let me grab it reading. Yes. Sagittarius, please return the PB gun you confiscated from your son in the second grade PS. You are a cranky pants. Henry does knows exactly who wrote that. Of course he does. He doesn't even wonder for a minute. Yeah. I just love the PS. You're a cranky pants. Yeah. Cause also like not wrong.
01:07:25
Speaker
Yeah, true. ah Very, very Sean. So Sean, very Sean way to put that. And then we also get, you know, I i also just love how Henry is always like a step ahead of them. um Just by doing like Well, I don't know. I was going to say just by doing like his basic detective duties, but I don't even know that because I think Henry really is quite talented as well, just like Sean is. But they ask, he asks if Sean and Gus know about the veggie burger incident. And well, he could also like knows, seems to just know a lot about like what's going on around town. We know. I mean, this proves he reads the paper diligently. I wonder if that's almost like part of his
01:08:10
Speaker
I don't want to call it schtick, but you know what I mean? Like if that's part of his thing, one needs to be aware of what's going on in the community so that we can be on top of, you know what I mean? Yeah, because it's not just being attentive to like what's going on around you, but like he needs to know what's going on in general. Yeah, especially in the murder capital of the world. I mean, one needs to the absolutely not and We find out the veggie burger incident essentially Chef Antonio secretly fed beef to vegetarians, which, what a horrible human. I know. I love Sean defending vegetarians. Why are we trying to get this guy out of jail? I'm like, yeah, sure. I just, like I get that people, for whatever reason, don't understand vegetarianism or veganism. I get that people want to eat meat, but if other people don't want to eat meat, just leave them alone.
01:09:03
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it is. Yeah. Like with Antonio, it's like, okay, then don't offer one. Like if you're that opposed to it, don't put it on your menu. I agree. There were many other options other than feeding them animal products against their knowledge. Yeah. Like they' just not a, not a good choice. And this led to a woman who has coined herself the vegan vigilante to essentially protest against him, which also I think kind of fair.
01:09:33
Speaker
Yeah. If you have decided that you don't want to eat this thing and then someone is secretly feeding it to you, I don't know why you wouldn't be upset with that person. Oh, okay. My kid. Oh no. We always need a couple. Everybody take a shot. Yeah. That should be another one every time we hit the mic. Um, so yeah, she, you know, protesting him and I don't, I don't blame her. I think, yeah I mean, I would be very upset if I found out that someone fed me animal products against my knowledge. Yeah, and played it off. So it's one thing to like, you know, for it to happen on accident or whatever, but for them to be like, this is the veggie option. Right, correct. And it has beef broth in it. And we knowingly added it to it. Yeah. Because you were complaining about it being bad. In a sinister manner. yeah Yeah, like so horrible. So they think, hey, maybe this vegan lady, maybe she did it. So I love the whole line, where
01:10:32
Speaker
Sean and Gus are like, well, like where can we find her? And Henry's like, I saw her down by the driveway. And Sean's like, thanks, dad. I don't know how that's going to help me. Yeah, like two days ago. Yeah, two days ago. Oh, well, she's tied herself up for the last two days. Screaming, you guessed it, meat is murder. Yeah.
01:10:53
Speaker
And this is when we get the attempted nutshelling from Gus where he says, So hard to watch. So hard to watch. So hard to watch. I think I think of this episode as like, not when I like that much. And I think it's just because of this. It is, yeah, a little secondhand embarrassment. Yeah, like, there's so many fun things, but I think this really sticks with me. Like, it's just so hard. It is. Yeah, it's definitely a very hard watch. Oh, well,
01:11:19
Speaker
and Okay, but just one more thing. So Jules sees Shawn before we get into the nutshelling. And she is like so thrown. It is kind of funny that she's not questioning him at all. But she does ask him, she says, did you buy that That whole moment was just adorable. It reminded me of how we really got fixated on the line. like He was a paleontologist, you know, like that line delivery was just like, there was something so like, I don't know, like old Hollywood about it or something. Like, yeah, I don't know. But it was really, really sweet. um And Sean says, no, this little thing. Yes, we just have this moment where Jules is like reeling and actually
01:12:10
Speaker
This is the second time that she has this fateful thing because they matched. And he said, in that time he played it off. Oh, maybe this is like, he's feeling like he shouldn't have played it off. Because I'm like jumping around, but I'm talking about the date episode. Yes, I got you. I'm not finishing my sentences. But their questionnaires showed like a hundred percent compatibility or something like that. And Sean tells her,
01:12:39
Speaker
that he copied her answers or looked at her answers or something. and And we talked about how like, not really sure how that compatibility test works, but that wouldn't make sense. But ultimately, they were shown to be compatible and we believe he was lying to her when he said that he faked it. And yeah, so now he's kind of created like another situation like that where it's like,
01:13:05
Speaker
The universe is saying that they're very compatible and he's not saying it's wrong He's just kind of letting it be what it seems to be. Yeah, it's almost like a weird like olive branch Hmm like we we said before That we weren't compatible, but maybe we are That is an interesting way to frame it because in the end of the episode, he sort of asks her on a date. yeah And she plays it off. like They're playing this game.
01:13:38
Speaker
yeah but like things We talked about like things really shifting after that date episode where like it all got a little too real and then it's like, okay, we're just gonna go back to, um you know we don't do this with each other. yeah And they keep like Sean keeps like getting back into doing it. yeah Because we also had moments like since that episode where like he would try to say things and she would like not entertain it. And then now it's like they are kind of getting back into like a little bit of book flirtation.
01:14:09
Speaker
But she's still like keeping it pretty. Close to her chest. Yeah, she's like, because she's reeling. She's standing there like stunned for like the whole scene after that. She really doesn't know what to make of it. that's Yeah. ah And she she is the one, you know, of all the people she believes in Sean as a psychic. oh like She's a believer. Yeah. She would entertain probably her horoscope and stuff like that. so Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Well, so i I wonder how she felt then at the end.
01:14:42
Speaker
what Because does she realize that? Yeah, she does, right? She realizes that Sean was the one who wrote it. Oh, I don't know, does she? Because how does that conversation start at the end? now I have the transcript open, so let's see. We're jumping ahead, folks. Okay. Okay. Well, they're talking... I don't think they talk about the column.
01:15:05
Speaker
So it is very possible that she would find that out because they're all at the newspaper. Right. But it doesn't expressly state that. But they don't say that. They don't say anything about it to each other. OK. Because she just says, like, looks like you're finally able to communicate your visions again. OK, because I was going to say, I wonder how she would feel knowing that he manipulated the situation. I think she wouldn't like that. No, she wouldn't. Yeah, I don't think she would either. Knowing that she is someone who is such a straight shooter, like she wants people to be honest with her at all times. Yeah.
01:15:43
Speaker
I could imagine that that would really rub her the wrong way. but but but I'm going to just assume she doesn't find that out. Yeah. Then I can imagine she's still probably like, what the hell? Yeah. because what So then what she does say, so then he says, it feels good to be back, Jules. Matter of fact, I'm having another vision right now. You and me celebrating over dinner drinks. And she says, it sounds like you're still a little off. And then she walks away. so I mean, I feel like she just doesn't really know what to do with him at this point. like yeah that was here He is charming and he florids with her a lot and yeah and their colleagues. like I feel like on the one hand, she probably like doesn't maybe think he's serious. Yeah. I mean, it it really takes like a very serious situation for her to realize
01:16:39
Speaker
how she feels. Yeah, and he's so playful. He's so playful. Yeah, like she may like she probably doesn't really think of him as a serious person in general. That's fair. Yeah. It's like she just may not may think he doesn't mean any of it. That's a good point. Yeah, that he doesn't actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's saying it, but he's just kind of joking. Yeah, like we're just trying to get a rise out of her or something. Yeah, that's fair.
01:17:08
Speaker
I feel like that's a, yeah, I feel like that's a fair assessment, especially knowing Sean and what he has presented to Jules and Lassie. Like we do get moments of seriousness with Henry and Gus, but Jules and Lassie, we don't really get yet at least many moments of seriousness. Yeah. So I could, I could totally get that. Yeah. And just thinking about like.
01:17:33
Speaker
playful Sean, what he presents versus serious Sean. That is like a crux, that moment where he, where she overhears him and he says serious Sean moment here. Like that is, it's almost like he has to preface it with that in order for her to believe it. Yeah. Because he is never serious about anything yeah as she, or like, so she would think. Right. Yeah. Very true.
01:17:55
Speaker
So the shoals things are, you know, the slow burn and burning. Slowly, yes. Slowly heating up.
01:18:05
Speaker
I think I skipped a bunch of stuff because the next thing I have down is Uncle Burton wonders what Sean brings to the operation and then editor's assistant did it. Okay, let me see what I have. Okay, well, we talked a little bit about that. We have the wrong nutshelling, which I guess is like so big. He's like so high on like, he's finally winning over his uncle. He's like, they stopped the case and he like is so wrong, so hard to watch.
01:18:35
Speaker
And then Sean and Jules show up because they called them and said, we're going to crack the case basically. and Oh, and then they found another victim. Right. Yes. Who saw a man, a tall man, dispose of the death caps and then ate them out of the dumpster. He was a homeless man and um he ended up falling ill and dying from it. Yeah.
01:19:06
Speaker
um So, we do have to remember two on our murder count. this Oh, two? Yes, two on the murder count. she the The woman was chained to the drive-thru, so it couldn't have been her, um and so he's made to look a fool. Shawn and Gus are made to look a fool. Have it been Chef Antonio, because he was in custody. And he was in prison, yeah. so basically We're at Square One. Square Uno. And then Uncle Burton is so disappointed and he rips up his postcard telling everybody about his fantastic vacation. Yes. For for Cranky Dude. Yeah. Oh, and this is when we get... Oh, oh, he's going home. And this is when we get the car ride. Yeah. I got you. With hippo shirts. with the hipster I'm not sure when this happens, but I did write down a line where
01:19:58
Speaker
Gus is like saying how they have to solve this case so that he can like get his get back in Uncle Burton's good graces. like That's what's at stake, and Sean's like that, two unsolved murders and an innocent men in jail, but yeah.
01:20:15
Speaker
We didn't bring it back to reality, Sean. We're not like him. I know.
01:20:22
Speaker
Like Gus is doing, you know, like he would do the exact same thing and be the exact same like self-centered person, but if Gus is doing it, he's gonna throw him. Yeah. He's going to be the Gus of this episode if Gus could be the Sean, yes. Yeah. So then we have the car ride.
01:20:41
Speaker
and Oh, maybe that's when Uncle Burton is talking about he doesn't get what Sean brings to the table. Oh yeah, because he's like, I think I figured out what is wrong. Sean doesn't bring anything to the table. That's why you couldn't solve this case. It's because of Sean.
01:20:57
Speaker
you're right And he what he like left some of his hippo shirts back in the room or or something. Yeah, this is fight about cat convenient. Yeah, very. farm polite and nos Neither here were there. Yeah. Uncle Burton loves the way it makes his arms look. Yeah. And they have a fun little hippo logo on yeah yeah which honestly, cute little hippo. Cute. Love that. Yeah. I want a hippo on my shirt. Yeah.
01:21:26
Speaker
I think I, okay, I have a clear typo where I was like typing and watching and it's like, Hippo's shirt is V-I-N-V-I-E-N-R. I think I meant convenient maybe? Oh yes, probably. Yes. So, but so how does he did? Oh, oh, okay. So I guess because Sean is just hyper observant, the hippo on the shirt makes him go hippo thinking like an arm or thinking like a hand. And then he remembers that someone at the newspaper also wore the hippo shirt. Yeah. And they ate
01:22:16
Speaker
Cheetos. that's Sunshine in the mouth. And they were tall. So it must be him. Yeah, I do love that moment too, though, where he's like leans forward and tells Gus and he's like, think about it, like, who has the most access? And it's like, that's not any of the information that you just like used to get included. But somehow Gus figures out from that. Of course. Of course. So they head over to the the newspaper.
01:22:43
Speaker
And I also, I thought it was so interesting, this whole like lead up to the nutshelling because Gus is going in there hot. He's like, you, you who are getting the new job who once was the assistant to the editor. And Shawn is like, no, no, don't, no Gus. And when this was happening, I was like, is he going to tell him that he was wrong? Like, did we all get that? Like the way he's trying to stop him. I was like, what? Cause there are a couple instances where I'm trying to think of what the episode was.
01:23:13
Speaker
Excuse me, but there's an episode where they're in a kitchen and Sean- I knew exactly what you were going to say. Yeah. Is pointing to one person and it's like, you did it. And then Henry's like, and they're like, you, how could you sit here when I am framing a- Yeah. It was a think tank one. Oh, is it the think tank one? Like Henry, it's right before he gets brought in. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Oh yes. And he is like, wow, I really thought you were going to pin it on that guy, but that was really not the person.
01:23:43
Speaker
Yes, i I almost felt like it was going to be a that scenario, but then Sean just essentially says, we don't know how he did it yet. And then they figure it out together in the moment, essentially by using two magic heads. Yeah, I love that moment where like, um,
01:24:02
Speaker
Well, because they have that line which we talked about, we're like, what are we going to do? Uncle Britton thinks I'm a psychic, the newspaper thinks you're a psychic, and the cops think I'm just translating your patience. Such a good line. he And then like, so Sean puts his hand on Gus's head and he's like,
01:24:17
Speaker
magic. And I love that it's almost it's like Gus the table, you know, it's like, they like this he's like calling a play. It's so fun. but that I love then Gus grabs Sean's head and goes two heads are better than one. So hard, so hard. And it's so beautiful. Because like, this whole episode, we have been playing with like, oh, like the assistant who brings what to the table. bla bla bla And it's like, here they are. Yeah, two heads are better than one. ah They need each other.
01:24:48
Speaker
I also thought it was so funny because it's, it is this like beautiful moment of working together. And then we just start abusing each other. I wonder if that's something they like came to in like rehearsals or if that was written it because it is very, like it's very much blocking. Like, yes. So before every new thing each one of them says, yeah, they like take turns revealing information and before each line, they smack the other on the head. It looks like they're starting off by just being tagged. Oh yeah, that makes sense. It's like it's you and then it escalates. Wouldn't it be funny if we just start like... Indian burning each other. Yeah, like stomping on feet and everybody's watching like wincing. This is so ridiculous. And I love like when they get to the end and like ah Sean dodges him and
01:25:45
Speaker
And then they fist bump like a truth. So cute. Yeah, that all felt like, again, like very like brotherly. Yeah, very, very. And then when, when they finally are like, okay, yeah, it's definitely him. They're like busted. And then they do the robot. Yeah. And I do love that moment. Um, where like, that Lassie and Jules get a moment where, um, cause the guys like Alan Looney, cause they mentioned the mushroom guy, he has a description and the,
01:26:14
Speaker
Uh, the killer is like Al Mooney and saying nobody would ever believe him. And then Lassie and Jules look at each other because it's like their detectives too. And they caught that. And I was like, I don't believe anyone said the witness's name. And it's just like fun to see them doing their jobs too. Yeah. It's so good. Just all around. I mean, we didn't get a lot of Jules and Lassie in this episode, but all around a very fun.
01:26:40
Speaker
like play of an episode. yeah When we did see them, it was, you know, silly with Lassie's arm and silly with the horoscopes. and yeah Yeah. Yeah. They had a lot of fun. Yeah. Oh, one other thing I don't think we mentioned like earlier, when Antonio is in jail, and like Shawn goes to Lassie, Lassie is like, the case is closed. Like, so we do get, getting that tension of like Lassie
01:27:08
Speaker
He just will take things at face value. like He's like, we've got this, this, and this, slam dunk. And then he is like not going to investigate anymore. like yeah he's ah He's like a bureaucrat, kind of like Vic has to be sometimes. like Yeah, they have a job to do and once they think they've done it, they are done. Sean and Gus don't have that like limitation. Yeah, but they also like think Sean especially like thinks outside of the box. Yeah, more than they do. But yeah, that was interesting.
01:27:40
Speaker
i mean i think he's kind of like a creature of the position, if you know what I mean. There is so much to do, I'm sure, outside of just catching the bad guy, that once you have the evidence, it's like, okay, all signs point to this person. Start the paperwork, start the, you know, I don't know when de depositions happen, but start the de depositions, like, let's start getting things in order. So I'm sure when it seems like everything is on the money, like why would you spend all this extra time and energy chasing down a lead that might not lead to anything in reality? well Like you said, Sean and Gus have the time. Sean has nothing else to do.
01:28:20
Speaker
like i do be obviously love like he He loves the truth. like He believes. you know like He won't let that slide. No. yeah I don't know if he'd ever really forgive himself if he like put the wrong person behind bars. I don't think he'd let that stand.
01:28:39
Speaker
no so yeah he's he's definitely He's all in. He's got to find find the bad guy at all costs. Yeah, I do feel like Lassie is the most of of the team, like the most willing to like brush his hands with something like... Yeah. I think he's the most by the book too. Yeah, and maybe that's what it is really. It's like yeah slam dunk. That's what he thinks. And so we're not gonna poke at it. So yeah, interesting character thing for Lassie. Yeah.
01:29:18
Speaker
So yeah, and then we get like the little little asking out of jewels a little bit.
01:29:26
Speaker
And then, oh, and Jules comes back because Vic called and there's been a bank robbery and the chief's asking for them. And Uncle Burton's like, you don't mind if I tag along to you? And they're like, and he's like, eh, of course not. So oblivious. This is when we also get him call, Uncle Burton call Gus Gus, right?
01:29:50
Speaker
Like he goes, why would I be mad at you Gus? Yeah. Yeah, it's just we, like a... Conning Gus like to look at each other and be like, I was like, oh I was so excited. Thank you.
01:30:03
Speaker
Yeah, and then we end we end back at the office right outside. Yeah, with the contract. But I do, as ridiculous as the contract is, I do love the fact that it led to the conversation of Uncle Burton essentially saying, I accept you, yeah however you want to use the name of Burton. I thought that was very sweet. You're doing good work. Yeah.
01:30:30
Speaker
nice you know like the final seal of approval yeah which is what Gus wanted yeah and Sean lets him have it you know he was never going to like no expose him no but i do love how he continues to mess with him and he's like sign the contract you can sign it any way you want yeah he just said you can sign it don sheedle it's so funny like he's so serious about it so yeah and then they take off running silly goose eats. Yeah, such a fun one. I feel like another. one Yeah, another just very iconic. Like episode like a lot of really good lines. Really fun plot. Yeah. um just like So many
01:31:18
Speaker
like sitting Thinking about it, like so many locations, so many twists and turns, the amount of people, we like so many suspects. like yeah I feel like we're kind of and leveling up, yeah likere settling into like the psych world where things are more extreme yeah topsy-turvy and-turvy and whatnot.
01:31:41
Speaker
But next, we have a very, we have a fun one. If you're so smart, then why are you dead? I also feel like the names are getting more fun, like they're getting longer. Which one is this one? If you're so smart, then why are you dead? That is the Smarty Pants High School one, which is... Oh, I love this one. The origin of Phocisics. Phocisics, our namesake. So that'll be fun for us. Yeah, that'll be really fun. Did we talk about...
01:32:09
Speaker
why we named it this high six like in the very beginning. If we didn't, we can talk about it next episode. Yeah, yeah and we should talk about it because we're at the beginning of season two. you know it's like We're starting a new... Yeah, yeah this is a this is a a fun one on like multiple fronts. I love that they're going back to school. I love that, again, he like gets a job in... Yes, you're right. Just fun.
01:32:36
Speaker
I like that the kids get to play like a big part in it. I think that's kind of cool. We will have to. I remember you said you thought that red-headed kid will have to pay attention. Yes, thank you. We need to double check that. Yeah. Because that's important.
01:32:54
Speaker
Yeah, I can't remember which episode you thought he was in. Yeah, Double Life, the comic book one. Oh, yeah. It was The Malcontent. The Malcontent. Okay, I'll have to check on that. Yeah. We'll have some fun things coming up. Yay! Well, if you enjoyed hanging out with us for this hour on a Tuesday, join us back here next week, where we talk about season two, episode seven of the Fame TV show Psych.
01:33:22
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