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Go Get your Ghoul Presents: The Haunting (1963)
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Ghosts? Gaslighting? Eleanor being the WORST? We must be at Hill House. 👻 This week on Go Get Your Girl, we’re spiraling alongside Eleanor in The Haunting (1963) — the black-and-white fever dream where the walls breathe and the lesbians thrive (kinda). Tune in for haunted mansions, questionable men, and one woman’s slow descent into “the house is flirting with me” madness. It’s spooky, it’s sexy, it’s emotionally unstable — just how we like it. 💋🏚️
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Visit to Madison's Home
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It was real clean. The way you did that was just like so... Past and future guest Madison Smith. Past and future guest. And never guest Nick.
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Nick. um ah Just got back from visiting them. And ah New Hampshire is beautiful. Have you ever been? Sure. Yeah. It's so pretty.
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Oh my god. um They also, they live in a ah house which, ah it's like townhomes in this old inn that was, used to be, it used to be an inn that Until the owners got murdered.
00:00:37
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Oh. By a ghost? No, by their daughter's stupid older boyfriend. Oh, shit. Yeah.
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It's always sadder in real life. I know, right? It's not as spooky. i started listening to a podcast about it. Of course. Yeah.
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Oh,
Central Park Fundraiser
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my God. I completely forgot. I've got huge news for the pod. ah Well, maybe. I don't know, for all of our dozens of listeners. um ah and So Emma is currently in a production of Pride and Prejudice.
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And ah my cast member who plays my sister Lydia her name is Lizzie Booth and she is starting a theater company and she's having a um fundraiser of sonnets and um she's asked me as a a um person who has a podcast if I would like to do a sonnet and promote go get your girl as a know as a as a public uh figure As a public figure and pod podcast S. So I will on October 12th be in Central Park saying a sonnet and talking about our podcast.
00:01:53
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Oh, which sonnet? um Well, I had to put in my three requests. And so my first request was sonnet 18 because I love it. It's cliche. It's stupid.
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um That's the shall I compare thee to a summer's day? Oh, sure. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um My second one is 150, which is the sexy weird sonnet I did in college, um which is just all about banging.
00:02:16
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yeah Sure, yeah and that The three sides of Emma Palizza. know. And then, that's actually perfect, because my last one that I picked, because I had to do like three options, and then one of them gets picked.
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um My last one is 130, which is his most sarcastic comedic sonnet. which is like sarcasm and fucking yeah yeah yeah exactly buddy really exactly so we'll see which one gets picked i thought son 18 would be perfect in promoting a rom-com podcast um right right right so yeah i have to i'm sorry i had to skip an ad to look at the text of this sonnet the sonnet i'm going to kill everything this is the bad place
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Oh, from what power hast thou this powerful might with insufficiency my heart to sway to make me give the lie to my true sight and swear that brightness doth not grace the day? Wait, what sun is that?
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That's 150. Did say 150? Did you submit the wrong one?
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Oh, maybe it's not 150. Sorry. 150 is about the one, although I love what others do abhor, what others thou shoulds not abhor my state.
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What is it? What is CLI? That would be 41. Sorry, 41. No, no, be 151. 151. 151, sorry. 151. Oh, so, so sorry. I know is... Love knows...
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hundred and fifty one one fifty one sorry one fifty one oh so so sorry and know this love no Love is too young to know what conscience is Ah, okay.
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Body and use to illustrate the difference between spiritual love for the fair youth and the sexual love for the dark. And then I have to click on. Then I have to click out. Love is young to know what conscience is yet. Who knows? Not conscience is born of love.
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Yeah. And then one 30 is mistress's eyes are nothing like the sun. Yeah. I know that one Yeah. Yeah. where it's like my mistress ain't as cute as you think she is i'ma change this google sheet to say the right one 151 important 150 yep oops the daisies i'm glad also very very me uh to put the wrong sonnet in there yeah
00:04:57
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But yeah, so if you're in the New York area around October 12th, come to Central Park to see um this very fun, ah amazing Masked Sonnets event.
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Masked? It's Masked. M-A-S-Q apostrophe D. That's the name of the a theater company. How are you, Katie? Oh, fine. Yes.
00:05:26
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Standard Katie. fine. Yeah, you know. I'm doing my best. Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you, being off the internet has been really great this week.
00:05:37
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Oh, good. I'm glad. Because I just hear people complain about the the shit that they're having to read, and I'm like, I could not handle that. That would make me so mad Yeah.
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This is the bad place.
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It really Yeah. really Yeah. But you know what's not the bad place? Well, I mean, it kind of is the bad place. Depends on your view. Depends on who you are in this situation. You know what else is the bad place?
00:06:07
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Hill House. Hill House. Or, you're now, not the bad place. I don't know. I think she might be wrong.
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That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your This is the podcast where Emma and Katie um think that they're going on a vacation at a manor house, but turns out it's just some weird, um like, psychic...
00:06:37
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supernatural ghost hunt uh he told her that's what it was like i don't know why she thinks it's a vacation like she's just surprised she's the most pathetic person in the world No, no.
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Oh, bless. um And so we go and we make BFFs with this cool bohemian lady and a lesbian lesbian lady.
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ah and ah then the house starts being all weird and stuff. And then we just kind of, you know, give into it. And we're like, hey, this is the best place to be, I guess.
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um It's way better than my bitch of a sister's house. That's for sure. For sure.
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That's right, Emma. ah That's right, Emma. That's right. Hey, that's you. I'm Emma. and And I'm Katie. That's right, Katie.
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this is Go Get Your Ghoul. What movie are we talking about today, Katie?
Discussion on The Haunting (1963)
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We are talking about The Haunting from 1963, directed by the great Robert Wise, who also directed West Side Story, The Sound of Music.
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Oh, shit. I did not know he did all of those. ah Yeah, ah the the Star Trek movie, which is gorgeous. um during the During lockdown, I decided i had never seen a Star Trek.
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And my like childhood best friend, Jessica, shout out Jessica, has been obsessed with star trek our whole lives um and she's always tried to get me to watch it and she had them all on vhs when we were kids it was crazy um and i decided to watch the star trek movies because that was a lot less of a commitment than watching the star trek tv shows
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And they're pretty good. um i have to say, people don't like the first one because they say it's, like, boring, but it's gorgeous. It's very, like, kind of riffing off of 2001, and one and it's there's a lot of, like, really big, wide, beautiful space footage, you know?
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Oh, Which is, like, you know, this movie, and, like, it's, yeah, you can tell it's the same director. Like, The Sound of Music, especially, has a lot in common with the this the first Star Trek movie. I thought you were going The Sound of Music has a lot in common with ah The Haunting.
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I mean in terms of the way that it's filmed it kind of does yeah because I mean like the thing about this well we'll get into it but like he uses these really wide uh angle uh these really wide lenses so much so that because it's an interior the walls like curve on the edges and you know in in the sound of music it's like big beautiful Switzerland or Austria yeah yeah It's Austria, but that's pretty famously Austria. Yeah. Yeah. They have to escape to Switzerland. So you're not far off.
00:09:30
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Correct. Yeah. yeah Yeah. The Alps. The Alps. Yes. And it is written.
00:09:41
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I don't know. well We couldn't get through it without that for sure. um and It is written by Nelson Gidding, um ah who wrote several other movies that directed by Robert Wise, um including The Andromeda Strain, which was a few years later, which was a big movie, apparently.
00:10:01
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um It's about an alien virus.
00:10:06
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yeah the um And based on the book by Shirley Jackson, which have you read the book? I actually not, but I just bought it. oh Oh, okay, cool.
00:10:17
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It's, ah I mean, if you've seen, you and you've also seen The Haunting of Hill House, the the Mike Flanagan miniseries, right? Yes, yes. And I've seen the remake from 2000.
00:10:29
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Yeah. yeah Well, none of them... Are that similar to the book? I mean, this one is the most similar to the book for sure.
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But it's still quite different in a lot of ways. Okay. It's hard. I read the book in high school and I haven't read it since.
00:10:51
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So although on'm on many Octobers, I'm like, I'm going to reread The Haunting of Hill House and then I don't. um It is spooky. I will definitely say that. It is It's probably this, well, no, the Haunting of Hill House, Mike Flanagan's miniseries is the scariest by far. got Yeah.
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Fucking terrifying. Yeah. um But that is also like really just kind of elements of the book yeah um are used in that. It's really its own thing. The names of the characters and like the spiral staircase and somebody hanging themselves. Like that's pretty much all there is.
00:11:26
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That's pretty much all there is. Yeah. Everything else is like, look at this family drama talking about grief. Yeah. um and then super spooky things uh yeah and here's all these haunted act or hidden actors all around see if you can find them it's fucking it's fucking scary as hell when you notice something in the background i love it yeah we watched it something like 80 different ghosts in yeah the show that are that are not you don't know unless you know to look out for them It's too many ghosts.
00:11:57
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We watched it for the second time last last ah last Halloween. um And it's um it's real spooky. It's real spooky. The lady really really freaked me out for a while. Yeah.
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Well, always, it's hard for me. I'll start to rewatch it, but then I'll get to the episode
Shirley Jackson's Influence
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about the kittens. And then I have to stop. Because that's so hard to get through. Oh, God, yeah, with the fucking maggots and stuff, you know.
00:12:24
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Yeah, well, and just, like, these poor little kittens. Yeah. I don't want to see dead kittens on TV. i know. Give me dead people all day, but, like, dead kittens?
00:12:35
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Right, yeah. Fuck you!
00:12:39
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uh... So none of that is relevant to this movie. Um... But Shirley Jackson was a um ah famous horror ah writer from the middle of the century. She wrote the short story The Lottery and this book. And also We Have Always Lived in the Castle, which is. Yep.
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Do you know that one? I do. It's my to-read list because it takes me some time into it. Yeah, I've read that one as well. um It's not spooky as much as it is, like, it's just about... It's just sad. it's It's kind of like her life. um She was a recluse and...
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um just kind of uh she died young and and had a a rough life and we've always lived in the castle it's just about abused um children ah who um live in a house all alone it's it's um uh yeah she was um
00:13:37
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yeah it was a rough life for shirley jack so yeah we don't need to go into it kind of beyond the scope of this podcast yeah ah Uh, yeah. It was not a good time. Yeah.
00:13:50
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So, um, this movie was made in 1963. um ah Robert Wise read the book while he was working on West Side Story, and because the book came out in 59.
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So it was relatively quick adaptation of this very successful spooky book. Love that. And... He wanted to to make it. um He Nelson getting who he had worked with before was like, okay, I'll write a screenplay. And Nelson decided that the ghosts weren't real. And it was all in Nell's head.
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and that she was in a mental institution. And doctor um Dr. Markway was yeah her psychiatrist. And all of the ghostly stuff was her getting electroshock therapy.
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Jesus! And Theo was like her nurse. And the other and the the guy, um Luke, was a another patient. Like orderly? And she was imagining all of it. But... um They went to tell Shirley Jackson this and she was like, yeah, that's don't do that.
00:14:53
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Yeah. Like that's stupid. That's stupid. What is it? So Wizard of Oz to return to Oz. Oh man. That's probably about a scary movie.
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I know that movie is great. I love that. It's so creepy. so they um So he kind of hedged the screenplay to where he still incorporated a lot of that stuff about when like where she's describing like what she even says. Like, how do I know you're real? How do I know this isn't all in my head?
00:15:21
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Yeah. um But did try to make the supernatural a little bit more prevalent. Yeah. Robert Wise was trying to get a big budget for this. It was and A picture, though.
00:15:32
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in the time meaning which like like a b movie was a lower budget movie that was usually shown as a double feature in movie theaters whereas an a movie would not necessarily have like a huge budget like there were still low budget a movies and this was one but it was um it was shown by itself by itself that's what a or b picture means it just means it was shown as its uh as its own movie mostly because due to his prestige but he did have to like kind of scrape to get money together and they shot in in England uh for tax cuts which is why several of the actors are barely concealing English accents yeah i was like why is everyone British or can I not tell the difference between a transatlantic accent and a British accent
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um no they are um um what's her name Theo and Dr. Markway are both British Claire Bloom yeah and Richard Johnson Yeah, but Julie Harris is a notorious, like, American theater legend.
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So I know she's American. She has, like, so many Tonys. How many Tonys did she have? She's got so many Tonys. Five Tonys. Whoa. She has five Tonys for Best Actress.
00:16:45
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Yeah, yeah. That's gotta be the most, right? Yeah. I think. i don't know. I just know what we had to study her in college. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She, yeah.
00:16:56
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And think she went to the actor's studio back when the actor's studio was like the actor's studio and not a television show. Caught Lee Strasberg. Like he was there. yeah Yeah. um She won five Tony Awards for Best Actress for I Am a Camera, The Lark, 40 Carats, The Last of Mrs. Lincoln, and The Belle of Amherst. Four plays I've never heard of. Again, someone who has a master's degree in playwriting.
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One of those plays I've heard of, which is The Belle of Amherst, which is about, it's a one-woman show about Emily Dickinson. was going say, you haven't heard of I Am the Camera? I Am a Camera.
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Or I Am a Camera? no I've heard of that. Well. i couldn't tell you what it's about. I mean, I guess the name sounds familiar, but... Oh, oh, oh. it's um it's the it's it's ah It's based on the Berlin stories. It's a straight play that's this is about Sally Bowles. So it's the same um story as Cabaret. Okay.
00:17:52
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It's the one that inspired Cabaret, written by Christopher Inish. I think that's why I know it. Yeah. The play's by John Van Druten. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:04
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yeah Okay. Well, good for you, Julie Harris. She's also in East of Eden. um Famous. Oh, yeah. She's been a famous film. too Yeah. Yeah. yeah But most notably a um American theater legend. Yeah.
00:18:20
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Yeah. But her sister in this movie was straight up British. And I was like, what? What? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. They live in Boston. And I was like, is this just a really intense transatlantic accent?
00:18:35
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um She's British because she's evil. ah hum Because she's evil. Yeah, she really does suck. um Yeah, she lives with her, she's she's ah just a pathetic character, um Eleanor Lance.
00:18:50
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um She, her whole life basically took care of their sick mother while her sister left and married somebody and had a child. She stayed with their with their horrible mother who abused her and yep took care of her until she died.
00:19:07
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Yeah. yeah And she's like in her late 30s, we should say in this movie, yeah. So she's past any point of falling in love in the 50s or 60s. It's just too late. I mean, now too, honestly. She's an old me. If you're 37, you might as well give up.
00:19:23
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That's not true. There's one thing rom-coms teach us. If you're 37, just go buy a bunch of cats. Yeah, 27 is 59 in bunny years, imagine what 37 is. 37 is dead. 37 is straight up dead.
00:19:40
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And that's basically what Nell is. ah Yeah.
00:19:46
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She longs for the cold embrace of the grave. um I mean, well She says, she tells him like... I was going to say, at least she goes and gets what she wants. Yeah. I mean, I guess. Yeah, she does. She tells him she sleeps on her left side because it's bad for your heart.
00:20:02
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Jesus fucking Christ. And he's like, damn, girl. No. like I sleep on my left side. Is it really bad for your heart or is that just a 1960s nonsense thing?
00:20:12
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I think that's a 1960s nonsense where they thought cocaine and Coca-Cola was perfectly fine. No, I don't think that they had cocaine and Coca-Cola in the 60s.
00:20:24
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I don't know. point but point taken. Point taken. Seatbelts weren't a necessity. It does autocomplete. Is sleeping on your left side bad for your heart? No, it's not.
00:20:38
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It's an old wives tale. Yeah. Much like everything that Nell believes. Yeah. um Yeah, so she sleeps with her she sleeps. She lives with her bitch of a sister and her husband and their bitch of a daughter. ah Yep.
00:20:57
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Yep. It was like I bought this car with you. We went in on it together. It's half mine. let Please let me use it to drive to Vermont to stay at this, this, yeah have this vacation. And her sister's like, no, fuck you. Yeah.
00:21:13
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She's like, no, absolutely not. I'm going to need that car. Don't know when, but I'm need it. And her husband's like, yeah, now, no, you can't go. This is, that's, that's dumb.
00:21:24
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It's like, they're telling her she can't, she's an adult woman. Like they're, they literally just control her life. And the little sis and the the little girl is like, like twitchy aunt and Ellie.
00:21:37
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She's blinking again or something like that because she has these, like, she's clearly has like, she clearly has a ah serious anxiety disorder and she has these kind of like freak outs throughout the movie. Yeah.
00:21:49
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Yes. Yeah. um Oh, she's not. Well, she's not. One of my first notes before we even like get into the plot of it is um one of my favorite things about old movies that I wish that they would um bring back is an entire actor's wardrobe being sponsored by one designer.
Film Wardrobe Appreciation
00:22:09
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and oh hell yeah. I know. I think because because they still do that kind of. Kind of, but I don't think it's like like build like this at the beginning. like um Claire Bloom's wardrobe provided by Mary Kewint.
00:22:23
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ah yeah Which I love. i love. And like, I mean, most notoriously almost any Audrey Hepburn film, especially and later in her career. Miss Hepburn's wardrobe provided by Givenchy.
00:22:36
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah. all right Yeah. um Yeah. Good for them. Yeah. I mean, there are some personnel. I mean, it was the thing, like you hired one of those actors and it was like, okay, so this is my, Jean-Shea is going to make my my dresses. Hope you could afford them. Like that's part of it, you know?
00:22:54
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Yeah. They come with me There's probably some personalities like that now, but yeah it's definitely not the same. i would There's maybe a handful of actors who would would have something like that. Like, yeah um you know, James Bond, they still do that.
00:23:08
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you know Oh, yeah. And the other thing is the the credits are at the end of the movie, so it's less noticeable because everybody leaves. That's true. That's true. So I think that they definitely still still have that um on ah on a lesser scale and on, like, big budget movies, you know? Yeah, yeah.
00:23:25
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Less so. I'm sure on the James Bond movies, it's like, you know, Craig's wardrobe provided by Armani or or whoever. Yeah, you know.
00:23:36
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Yeah, probably. Most likely. and I just loved that it was like right after all the actors was like, here's this bitch's wardrobe. ah Was she the only one?
00:23:48
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was the only one. It was i it was just her. She's the distinctive um yeah outfits in this movie, for sure. she's yeah She's bohemian. Yeah. And they gave her that- A lesbian.
00:24:00
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A lesbian. You know, because- um And i looked it I looked it up because I didn't remember, but this actually is more explicit than the book about her being gay. And there There's a deleted scene.
00:24:16
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oh that that they shot where she is at her, it shows her at her house before she comes and written in lipstick on her mirror, it says, I hate you. And she's yelling at somebody who's leaving they out the window of her apartment who's left her.
00:24:33
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And so it is even more explicit in that. And they they cut it out for... um Not necessarily... i mean, Robert Wise says it wasn't because of of her being gay. It was just they didn't want to... They wanted to get to the house faster.
00:24:47
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Yeah. That makes sense. 1963, it is pretty explicit that she's a lesbian in this. Yeah. They don't actually say... she's a lesbian i mean they kind of do though they kind of though calls her yeah like one of my notes is um is uh nell when she's yelling at theo later on it goes um you're one of nature's mistakes and i was just like mel are you saying that because she's gay or because she's a psychic yeah it's hard to say um
00:25:17
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Or is psychic the same as gay? And I read, i i was reading I was reading the Wikipedia article about this. It said it was one of the first sympathetic like ah um lesbians in ah in a mainstream movie. And I'm like...
00:25:33
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she's pretty predatory. Yeah. Like, I don't know how far I would go. ah say but it said that she's feminine, which is what definitely true. And yeah that was not the way lesbians were portrayed.
00:25:45
Speaker
Yeah. Especially ah before this movie. And um I don't know if this could, because it was shot in, England it's still an American movie so it was still subject to the Hays Code i'm not really sure how they got around it I know the Hays Code was abolished in 68 and this was just five years before that so maybe they just um maybe they just uh got away with it yeah and it could also be that like you know they anytime they had to argue for it they're like because she's psychic
00:26:15
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Yeah. She's psychic. Don't ask those questions. And in the in the book, it is... i mean, she... and so Like, when we read this book in high school, like, we were told by the teacher, like, and this character is gay, you know?
00:26:29
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um But it's not... it's It's even less explicit than in the movie, in the book, for sure. Yeah. And in the remake, it's even more explicit.
00:26:40
Speaker
Well, it's... in the in the 99 jones i haven't seen the 99 ones since it's okay so flashback um i saw the movie in the theater because i watched this movie as a kid i think my my parents probably showed it to me um and so we were like oh cool they're remaking it let's go see it and it's god awful um so much i'm happy for you but This is the thing. This is the movie we were talking about in the stall movies. So I just edited the house bunny episode, which is why I'm referring, I'm making reference to references to it in this episode. um We were talking about movies that you saw as a kid that you have nostalgia for and like, even though they're objectively bad. And so the haunting is yours. so
00:27:21
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You can think of one. Yeah. The haunting is mine. I freaking love that movie. I rewatched it a few years ago. um And it's so dumb, but I love it so fucking much. Yeah.
00:27:33
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um and and when maybe maybe i'll enjoy it more the next time i see it again i haven't seen it in a long time so when my dad bought our first dvd player so that movie came out in 99 yeah and my dad was always like an early adopter so i'm fairly certain 90 summer 99 was also when we got a dvd player everybody was doing these promotions where if you bought a dvd player they gave you a bunch of free dvds the what Yeah, but you didn't get to choose the DVDs. It was the studios like had made deals with you know Sony or whoever made the DVD player. yeah
00:28:06
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I mean, if it i wasn't Sony because if it was Sony, they would have been Sony movies. um And these were ah Universal, I think, or whoever. Who did the remake of The Haunting? It doesn't matter.
00:28:16
Speaker
I think it Universal. um gave gave you, like I think it was seven DVDs, and they were they were pretty much all awful. I remember what they were, because they were the first DVDs we had. One of them was The Haunting, the remake of The Haunting.
00:28:30
Speaker
Lost in Space oh ge with Matt LeBlanc. Stepmom with Julia Roberts. and um That's a sad one. The Green Mile, which is ho good. like I mean, like at the time, it was considered a good movie. But something you want to rewatch.
00:28:49
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none It's three hours long. yeah It's not like, let's sit down and watch The Green Mile together for some fun. Um... Okay, I think those are the only ones there. Oh, Six Days, Seven Nights.
00:29:01
Speaker
Oh, geez. Which is just crap. And they they were trying to move them, I guess. Which is why they like they give you the one like as like, this is an Academy Award winning movie and people want to watch this. And then the other ones are just trash that they're trying to move product on. 1989's The Haunting is not trash.
00:29:21
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ah It features Liam Nielsen as the Doctor. Liam who? Liam Nielsen. Liam Neeson. There it is Liam Neeson.
00:29:34
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I don't know why I cannot say his name. um You're conflating him with Leslie Neeson. I am conflating him with Leslie Neeson. um But it features him as Mr. um Ghost Doctor.
00:29:47
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And ah in which famously he turns to Nell at one point and he goes, I have a particular set of skills. Right. That's not a bad Liam Neeson, honestly.
00:29:59
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Thank you so much. um It is ah Lily Taylor, I believe, plays Neil. And then famously a young Owen Wilson plays Luke.
00:30:09
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Yeah. yeah And Catherine Zeta-Jones plays Theo. And they add a lot to the plot, including some Maybe Nell's related to the cranes?
00:30:20
Speaker
Don't know. Well, that's in this movie. That's in the book. Is it? And that's in this movie, too. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I miss that. Because there's the statue that looks like her. There's, I mean, the fact that she, ah just like the the companion, was like the house wanted her, I think is the idea. the house wanted her.
00:30:39
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Um, uh-huh. Yeah.
00:30:42
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um ah huh yeah so guys i also love the fact that um abigail crane who is uh because they do this flashback at the beginning right of like how the house came to be cursed well it starts with narration which is lovely like yeah so nice and it starts with this bitch died in a horse and buggy accident no one knows how the whole heritage horse hit a tree yeah yeah And then, um and she was the new wife of, um what's his name? Crane. Oh my God. What's his name?
00:31:19
Speaker
Hugh Crane and his daughter and his self. He got new wife and new wife also died mysteriously from house.
00:31:30
Speaker
And then Abigail, who was daughter, who was the only one to survive. but She got old and died in house without marrying. And her companion was too much of a slut to take care of her. So she died.
00:31:45
Speaker
That's literally what the narration says too. was pretty shocking for 1963. Right.
00:31:54
Speaker
was like, lol. um Yeah, the companion was fooling around on the veranda, which is literally what he says, and while she was banging on the wall for help. And died. yeah And she died.
00:32:07
Speaker
Which is the same thing that happened to Nell's mom, we find out later. um And she, like, was tired and she didn't want to get up and help her and thought she'd be fine and she died. Which, like, you know, it sounds like they both deserved it.
00:32:20
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we know Nell's mom was not a nice lady.
Character Analysis of Nell
00:32:28
Speaker
and Yeah, you gotta go sometime. Yeah. I can only grasp that Abigail Crane was also not a nice lady.
00:32:35
Speaker
I mean, she spent her whole time in, like, the most evil house in the world. So she probably wasn't. In the most evil room the most evil house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the nursery. In her nursery. She never left her nursery, which is super spooky.
00:32:46
Speaker
It's super weird and gross. Yeah. Yeah. Like, get a girl. Anyway, and then the companion. The companion inherited the house, and then she lived there for the rest of her life until she decided that she couldn't take it anymore, and she hanged herself by the spooky spiral stairs in the library. Yeah.
00:33:07
Speaker
And then these other people inherited it. um I presume the family of the companion are who have it now. And we find out that all this narration has been Dr. Markway played by named Richard Johnson who has a very severe headshot here. um
00:33:30
Speaker
Wow. You know, for such a... He was in a lot of comedies. He was in... Some Girls Do. oh Deadlier Than the Male. The Amorous Adventures of Maul Flanders, which I mean, Maul Flanders is a famous book, but like it is definitely like the posters here are very like swinging 60s England kind of stuff.
00:33:48
Speaker
Yeah. Like, does he did he have like a 60s porno career? Because those don't sound like pornos. If I didn't know who Maul Flanders was. Yeah. Based on the... um Based on the posters, ah you they they're definitely like swinging 60s comedies. like kind of like um like Looks like spy capers. Kind of like this girl with a bikini holding gun. Yeah, British comedy spy film.
00:34:15
Speaker
Yeah. yeah
00:34:18
Speaker
It's a Bulldog Drummond film. it looks like that was a series of some kind. Maybe that's what Deadlier Than the Mail is, too.
00:34:28
Speaker
all stupid titles yes it is it is also in the same series so it's a series yeah this one has two girls in bikinis this time they're holding harpoon guns
00:34:43
Speaker
I don't know maybe they're good who's to say who's to say time maybe mean I don't know we haven't seen them we don't know we don't know that's true We'll do it for our series on weird British 60s films.
00:35:00
Speaker
Yeah. ah the um So he is trying to get the rights to go and stay in the house. He wants to to pay the family to stay there for a number of days. Doesn't really specify, it seems.
00:35:14
Speaker
And um he is a respected anthropologist, but he has this... these theories about the supernatural and he wants to investigate it. And he's a freak for ghosts.
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah. He's a big slut for ghosts.
00:35:31
Speaker
And the family's like, I, nobody stays in there. Like you don't want to stay there. It's a bad place. And he's like, I'm going to do it. And ah he's like, I'm going to have some assistance. And she's like, well, are any of your assistants going to be female? And he's like, well, yeah.
00:35:45
Speaker
And she's like, well, you will have to bring my idiot nephew then. Just to make sure you're not, there's no fucking going on. There's one thing the house hates. It's fucking. It's fucking. And make sure that you don't play gin with him because boy oh boy does this guy love to gamble and does he love to win.
00:36:04
Speaker
um ah Yeah, so he gets his assistants together, one of whom is Nell, and we already kind of described her home life situation. She ends up taking the car anyway. Yeah.
00:36:15
Speaker
And like, she acts like she stole it. But again, it is partially her car. It's half hers. She's like 38 years old. She could do whatever she wants. Yeah. And like when she goes to get the car, she goes down to the like parking attendant and she goes, hello, I'm Eleanor Lance and I'd like to take my car. mean, she's real cool and chill about it. So I'm sure didn't raise any red flags. okay Right.
00:36:38
Speaker
And he goes, what? That's not your. She's like, I live in this apartment. And he goes, that's your last name. Not that their last name. And she goes, here's all of my IDs showing that I live there. Now, may I please take my car?
00:36:52
Speaker
And he goes, yeah, sure. There you go. Like, I don't care. And we get all this, like, interior monologue from her where she's like, you're doing it. You're finally doing something on your own. it's like, she's just so pathetic. Like, you almost don't feel sorry for her. She's so pathetic. Like, at first you do, and then it's like, come on, girl. She's also a stupid bitch. Like, have some self-respect, my God.
00:37:20
Speaker
Well, that's what I was driving at, but, um yeah. Yeah. Like you feel bad for her in the first scene and then you get her like interacting with people that aren't her family and you're like, oh no, she's just a bitch.
00:37:35
Speaker
She's just like that all the time. yeah she's just And like, I've known people like this in real life. And like, I understand like people have anxiety disorders. People have, you know, people have mental um illnesses and like, it can still be hard to be around them.
00:37:51
Speaker
Um, and and obviously we have sympathy for people and people need to be, you know, given the, the, the freedom and the space to, to figure their stuff out. But like, if you have to deal with one, if you're locked in a haunted house with one of these people, like it's, yeah.
00:38:07
Speaker
it's It's an effort to be around. It's an effort. Yeah. Because she's like, the first thing that happens is she gets to the house and the the gate's locked and there's the like the the groundskeeper and she goes, excuse me, sir, I need to get in. And he goes, oh well, you're the first one here, so you can't get in. He's doing a crazy New England accent, like really maining it up.
00:38:32
Speaker
Like, wow, I don't know about that there.
00:38:37
Speaker
How's you's goes over there's? Sometimes dead is better. That turned into Southern Gentleman. It's supposed to be Pet Cemetery, whatever. Yeah. um And she immediately just starts harassing him, going, you listen to me, buddy.
00:38:57
Speaker
She screams at people a lot in this movie. So much. She's really big at like, she's going to start like croing like sobbing and also yeah screaming at you.
00:39:11
Speaker
Like at the same time. It's very intense. She'll be like super sad for two seconds, then super angry for the next two. It's very unhinged. um But he like, he shows her to the house and then um she meets his wife. She's the first one there.
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, but he's the first one there. um And then she gets to the house and there's his wife, who is the housekeeper. And she shows her to her room, to which Charlie and I both got very confused.
00:39:39
Speaker
Her room has two twin beds smushed together under a king size canopy. Yeah. Why? So I think that that was i think that was a thing at the time.
00:39:50
Speaker
um You see this a lot in movies and TV shows from the 60s. And at first, I thought it was, I think we talked about this in It Happened One Night. um at first i thought it was just some uh convention for movies and tvs so they couldn't they wouldn't show men and women and in bed together but it wasn't it was an actual trend um having twin beds um either and then so sometimes you would have them side by side and sometimes you'd put them together um it was just something that they did in the like middle mid-century what happens if you fall in the middle
00:40:28
Speaker
I guess you don't. Like, I don't know. Like, I definitely, definitely spent some nights on two twin beds pushed together in dorm rooms in college for sure. Yeah, but that's different because it's dorm rooms. This is like, you're a grown up with adult money. Nobody fell the middle. I'm just saying nobody fell in the middle.
00:40:49
Speaker
Yeah. All right. It was just weird. Yeah, it is weird, but it was really a real thing. There you go. There go.
00:41:00
Speaker
um But then we meet Theo. I mean, two of anything is cute, to be fair. Like, having two small things is cuter than one big thing. So are you saying that I should get a second La Boo Boo?
00:41:12
Speaker
Oh, God. No. No. It's so funny. Caitlin got a LeBubu like the same time you did. Yes, she did. It's ah horrific. Caitlin has a little leather jacket. It's awful. that's so cute.
00:41:25
Speaker
Mine doesn't have a little leather jacket. um But yeah, so then we meet Theo, our Theodora. ah She comes in like a a wave, a gust of patchouli oil. Oh, big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:41
Speaker
And it's like 1963, so it's like the absolute height of that shit. like Yeah, yeah. She lives in the village, I'm sure, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:41:52
Speaker
Absolutely. um And then they're just like wandering around the house and they're like, I guess we gotta find like where the main hall is but they can't find the lights and they can't find anything so they're just like stumbling down the walls and then they find um and like scaring themselves and then they then the doctor the good doctor opens the door and he goes hello what if i was a ghost
00:42:19
Speaker
yeah yeah right look at these creepy doors bitches um The whole place is, it's super spooky. It's a spooky house. um It is this, it's some castle out in England for the exteriors.
00:42:34
Speaker
The interiors, it looks like they shot on location, but they're all sets, but they built the sets with ceilings, um which was very uncommon at the time yeah to make it more claustrophobic. And also like the whole movie, the way that it's shot is, um like they yeah they use these really wide angle lenses and these cramped interiors, which makes everything look beautiful.
00:42:55
Speaker
kind of warped. There's lots of, there's lots of pans. There's, uh, there's weird, like weird pans. The camera moves upside down and, and around all the time.
00:43:08
Speaker
A lot of stuff is shot from below, except for Nell, who's often shot from above. Yeah. Um, to make her seem like small and frail. They, um, it's really It's really beautifully photographed. It's really um and really beautifully directed.
00:43:23
Speaker
it's ah It's a gorgeous movie, black and white. um It was part of his contract. The way he managed to end up making getting money for this is he went to MGM. he had He had a picture left on contract to make with MGM, but it had to be black and white.
00:43:36
Speaker
um Because would be cheaper. And um so they decided, okay, fine, we'll give you the money for that, but you got to get more money somewhere else. And he found... They found someone else to get some more money. But the movie was made for Which is which is ah high for a low budget movie and low for a full budget movie, really. like That time, the i mean this is 1963. This is the same year that Cleopatra came out, which was the most expensive movie ever made.
00:44:10
Speaker
yeah and The budget on that was close to $50 million. Jesus fucking Christ. I mean, that was a famous disaster, obviously. yeah um And they wasted a ton of money on that. I mean, Elizabeth Taylor got a million dollars just for for her for that, yeah which was the first time anybody even paid that much. Yeah.
00:44:27
Speaker
Yeah. Versus this movie, which brings me to the first of Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts. Everybody had a blast making this movie. Really? Yeah. Yeah, both actors, Julie Harris and what's her name who played Theo?
00:44:43
Speaker
ah Claire Bloom. Claire Bloom later in um like interviews and stuff constantly would just praise the director and said that they had just like the best time making this movie.
00:44:55
Speaker
Everybody likes Robert Wise. He's considered chill. Yeah, yeah. Which is what you should be as a director. Yeah, a chill professional, like gets the shit done and like yeah you know moves on. Yeah, yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
Be chill. Just be chill. There were lots of other things that they do. They do a lot of, they they break a lot of rules. Like they break the 180 rule a lot in this, not a lot, a few times in this movie. um they ah they don't ah They don't cut on action a lot. It makes things, it's these, a lot of these like,
00:45:25
Speaker
Tenants of filmmaking that a lot of people who don't know anything about it take for granted. um And but when you don't do it, or it or when you break that rule, you, you sort of don't notice it but just makes it feel like something's wrong, right? Yeah, it feels off.
00:45:42
Speaker
There's something called flipping the world, which is when you shoot the opposite side, you move the whole set around to ah to make it look more natural, basically. So when you turn move the camera past this, the 180 degree axis, instead of making it look like people switch places, you're just getting the other angle.
00:46:01
Speaker
um I think you know what I mean, audience members. um Yeah, yeah. So, um, but sometimes like it's, you do some, sometimes it's, it's, there's a like a little bit, you notice it a little bit. Right. And I think they do that intentionally a few times in this movie.
00:46:17
Speaker
Um, Also, there's there they'll be they'll have the characters move into a room on the left side of the screen. And then when they cut to inside that room, they're coming in from the other from the right side.
00:46:28
Speaker
um makes you It makes it impossible to figure out like how the house is set up, like where the rooms are in relation to each other. Yeah. We also never see the windows. so We never know if it's day or night outside. There's there's lots of little things like that, you yeah yeah it's it it adds to the ambiance and makes it just very like unsettling so you feel very unsettled while watching this movie which makes it for a great horror film like and why this maintains one of the best horror films of all time in my opinion um this and it's scary in 1999 um being the best horror films of all time when's the last time you saw the haunting 1999 emma i told you like two years ago
00:47:12
Speaker
Okay, okay, okay. i mean you want to hear You'll make me watch it sometime and I will rewatch it for the first time in like 20 years. And maybe maybe I'll have changed my opinion. Who knows? Let me give you my Letterboxd review of it because that was when I was and really into Letterboxd.
00:47:26
Speaker
Okay, so I gave it five stars. I liked it. And I mentioned it was a rewatch. I said, colon. Oh, look, Violet. Somebody must have died here. La, la, la, la, la. Look at this greenhouse. Isn't it is so wonderful? I'm not here. I'm here not taking care of my bitch of a dying mother. Yeah.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yep. That was my ah review. So pretty much. ah So it's very similar vibes for sure. Very similar vibes. Everyone is like, this is this is serious, and we're going to do this. I mean, Theo and Dr. Marquai are like that. Luke is like...
00:48:03
Speaker
You know, none of this is real. And Eleanor is like, I've never been out of the house before and I'm having a great time. I'm so happy. La, la, la, la, la. And then um then we get our first scary moment, which is um yeah in the middle of the night.
00:48:20
Speaker
ah Nell wakes up thinking that her mom is banging on the wall because that's how she used to get her attention. And she goes, Mom, Mother, give me five minutes. And she like starts to get up.
00:48:30
Speaker
and ah And then realizes that it's not the wall. She's not at home. It's a ghost. It's a ghost. So she goes to Theo's room because they share a bathroom. She goes, what the fuck's going on? And Theo's like, no!
00:48:48
Speaker
I mean, yeah, Theo is like kind of a scaredy cat to be like so like kind of put together and bohemian and very superior in in all of the scenes where there's not a ghost. Like when there is a ghost, she's like, ah!
00:49:03
Speaker
Ah! Ghost! And so they're like freaking out and they like huddle together in the bed. And then the there like walking, it starts to sound like walking down the hall and it gets louder and then it gets quieter and then it gets louder again.
00:49:18
Speaker
And then the door handle, the creepy, but super, and they go more into this in the 99 remake, the weird fucking angel baby cherubs everywhere. There's a lot of cherubs everywhere. Yeah.
00:49:31
Speaker
including on her door handle to her bedroom and it starts to like shake and like slowly move. But it doesn't open. You never see shit in this movie. No, you don't. You just hear.
00:49:46
Speaker
Which is like, it's, you know, it's, it's, a it's, a you don't want to see like, it's, it's the Jaws principle, right? Like the more you don't show the scarier it can be, but like this movie takes it,
00:49:59
Speaker
a step further than that where like you never see anything like no all you don't see shit it's all like sounds off stage and um like the the door like there's famously later the door like moves like something is yeah which is so freaking cool ah kind of similar to a nightmare on elm street where he like the latex wall where they yeah like he pushes through the wall I immediately thought of that when I was watching when we were watching this last night.
00:50:28
Speaker
I was like, oh, yeah. And yeah, because that is about it, because the other like the the other jump scares in this are a real person. You may think it's a ghost at first, but it turns out to be it's a real person.
00:50:42
Speaker
It's a real person. um So it is like it is is one of those things where it's it's hard to call this movie scary. Yeah. Because it is just, you know, it's 60 years old.
00:50:54
Speaker
And it's... But even at the time, there were criticisms of it, like, being, you know, boring or not not not showing us anything, you know? So...
00:51:07
Speaker
Which is part of the thing I think was like little... It was a little prestige-y, you know, for a horror movie at the time. So I think that was part it. Whatever. But afterward, it really grew in critical acclaim years later and is considered one of the best horror movies of all time for sure.
00:51:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Which is great. um So as the movie goes on, we then learn at one of the dinners um that...
00:51:35
Speaker
uh dr what's his fuck dr ghost is like dr ghost hunter sorry correction dr ghost hunter i'm dr gost and i'm here to investigate ghosts i'm here to investigate ghosts um they're sitting around the table and he goes well you're here theo because you're psychic and now you're here because you experienced a poltergeist and she goes da what no i didn't shut up
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah, and he's like, yeah, if there were there was a stone rain outside your house when you were a child that eve that was in the newspaper, and even the the police acknowledged that it actually happened, which is like the only time that anybody's ever done that.
00:52:15
Speaker
Yeah. And she's like, oh, that wasn't real. That was my neighbors. They were bitches. I was fine.
00:52:26
Speaker
Yeah, she is definitely like sensitive in many ways. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what you want in a haunted house is to bring a clairvoyant and someone who attracts poltergeists.
00:52:41
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And then also there's Luke who was played by Russ Tamblyn. um and i really from Riff from West Side Story. Yes. That's why I recognized him.
00:52:52
Speaker
Yeah. He's also Dr. Jacoby on Twin Peaks years later. um And also Amber Tamblyn's dad. Really?
00:53:01
Speaker
that that's little so um yeah so he's like i think he's like 29 in this movie um he is you know drinking and playing cards and ignoring all of this he's gonna inherit the house one day so he's always talking about like what he's gonna do he's gonna turn it into a nightclub you know he's gonna do this um he's gonna sell all the books for a quarter and make a killing yeah very dismissive uh of of everything and um kind of stays that way throughout the whole movie like a little bit like once like shit really starts to happen at the end he's a little bit like okay i believe it but it's still like you know yeah for the most part he's just kind of there yeah he doesn't really have much of an arc or like do anything but be there and being like don't know about this ghost nonsense
00:53:50
Speaker
Yeah um Theo keeps hitting on Nell Which is like Why girl Like you don't want any part of this Like yeah no you you can do so much better than Nell Well maybe I mean like in the remake They they sort of say that she's Addicted to sex Oh, okay. Yeah. The faint. Oh, a lesbian who has a sex addiction. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a much better stereotype.
00:54:20
Speaker
It would explain why she keeps trying to hit on Nell. Yeah. The only explanation. ah Yeah. There's lots of like, like leering lustful glances and stuff. And then yeah um she's, she's playing it as a real sex pot for sure.
00:54:36
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, this brings me to another one of Emma's fun facts. Emma's fun facts. um So ah Claire Bloom, who played Theo, was intrigued to play the role of a woman who was attracted to another woman.
00:54:49
Speaker
She said she got along with everyone on set except for Julie Harris, who tried everything to avoid her and not talk to her. At the end of the shoot, Harris went over to Bloom's house with a present and explained that the reason why she was such a bitch during filming was because she was staying in character because Harris's role in the film was that of an outsider that none of the others understand or listen to.
00:55:09
Speaker
So Bloom was happy hear the real reason behind Harris's behavior since Bloom stated that she really liked Harris and could not understand what she herself had done wrong to be treated like that. and Some real actor studio bullshit. Yeah. Like, oh my God.
00:55:24
Speaker
sorry for being a bitch. Get over yourself. I just really want to get the character. um i hate that shit. um some Some Jared Leto mailing his pubes to people bullshit.
00:55:36
Speaker
So then... so um then there yeah She gets her drunk and gets her to ah paint her toenails. Pink nail polish.
00:55:49
Speaker
Oh my god. Tickled pink. And she, but she's also psychic and she keeps like mentioning things. Um, and then they have this really contentious relationship where they'll be like, so like, like acting like they're friends. And then Nell will freak out and start screaming at her. Yeah.
00:56:06
Speaker
Well, because Theo will be like, um, you know, just, uh, say random offensive shit. Like you wanted your mom to die.
00:56:17
Speaker
Well, she said that after she screamed at her. That's what i'm saying. She goes, I don't think you killed your mother. That's what she says. Right. Yeah, but still, that's that's negging is what that is. No, no, but she says that after ne Nell freaks out already.
00:56:28
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. it's um she But she does. She she she knows things and yeah mentions it and is always like, oh, well, it's because of this, you know? Yeah.
00:56:39
Speaker
Oh, and it should be said that Nell lies when she meets Theo. ah she's Theo's like talking about her apartment and her life. And she goes, well, what about you? What's your life like? And Nell's like, I've got this amazing apartment and all this stuff.
00:56:51
Speaker
Yeah. Which she does not have. No, she has a sad life. um Yes. She is also falls in love with Dr. Markway immediately and is like, it's so, it's so pathetic. Like pathetic is definitely the, the, the word I keep repeating. yeah it's That's the word for her. She, um he is nice to her and she like falls in love with him instantly. um Yeah.
00:57:18
Speaker
That immediately is a turn on for her. yeah uh a man is nice to her which like a fair we we can all understand that i think yeah we can all understand that but like um girl that is that your only criteria yeah yeah they um they go outside into the hallway uh and it written on the walls it says eleanor come home which is spooky yeah spooky scary she's she's starting to act feel like like she again she's she keeps saying she likes it there and that she wants to stay there forever which is like no you don't that's really weird girl right and everyone everyone is all like girl no you don't no really you don't she's like i've waited all my life for something to happen to me i never want to leave ever ever ever
00:58:08
Speaker
And it's like, and the doctor the good doctor is like, okay, I think this is like red flag. You should go home now. I think you you have this weird attachment to this house and it's unhealthy.
00:58:20
Speaker
So yeah I'm going to kick you out before things get weird. um And she refuses to do that. um yeah Then we have probably the most famous scene in the movie where they put her in the room with Theo and they're going to stay in the same room together for safety.
00:58:40
Speaker
And you hear the children laughing and you hear a man talking indistinguishably and you... um You start to see a face in the pattern of the leaves on the wall.
00:58:52
Speaker
Yeah. And um that's when she's holding Theo's hand and like freaking out.
Ghostly Encounter Scene
00:58:59
Speaker
And then we cut out and we realize that Theo's on the other side of the room of her. And she's like, whose hand was I holding? And you're like, whose hand?
00:59:06
Speaker
Whose hand? Whose hand? Which is like just classic ghost story shit. yeah And that's from the book. Yeah. Yeah. um And then, ah lo and behold, but Dr. Ghost Hunter's wife shows up.
00:59:21
Speaker
And she's like, surprise now. Surprise now. and he goes, ah, yes, now have you met my wife?
00:59:30
Speaker
And she's like, I don't believe in any of your bullshit, um you know, John or whatever his name is. And she's like, I'm going to stay here. Since you won't come home, I'm going to stay here. Apparently the press have gotten word of this and they're going to ruin your reputation. So we need to call this now.
00:59:45
Speaker
Yeah. And he's like, no, I'm on the verge of a breakthrough. um And like we do have some like philosophical monologues from him where he talks about like people were scared when people thought the world was flat. They were scared of a round world.
00:59:55
Speaker
And now people are scared of the supernatural because we don't understand it. And if we understand it, it won't be scary anymore. Yeah. Yeah. um and Nell's like that's that makes sense can we make out and he's like no um that makes sense can we make out um yeah and then bitch wife comes over and or comes to the house and she's like well I'm gonna stay with you Dr. Ghost Hunter and and he's like I mean you shouldn't stay in this house and Nell of course was just like well now's my chance to sabotage this relationship you should stay in the nursery that's the most haunted room
01:00:32
Speaker
Yeah, which they'd never been in because the door's locked and they can't get it. They can't they can't find the key to it. They can't open it. Right. um But when they walk up the hallway, the door's open, which is very... um the The miniseries did did that as well. Yeah. It's like the Red Room.
01:00:49
Speaker
Yeah. Which is fucking cool. The Flanagan series has very little to do with the book or this, but is also just fucking incredible and everyone should watch it.
01:01:00
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, they do some nice homages to the movie and like Theo or Nell's um little dance with herself but around the like spiral staircase before she jumps.
01:01:13
Speaker
a But like, like that's directly from this. um And they do it again in the remake too of her just like waltzing around in her nightgown going la la la la.
01:01:24
Speaker
Yeah, she crazes. She crazy. um And so she goes to stay in the room and then you have spooky, scary night um with the hand. Cause I think that's when the the hand scene happens.
01:01:37
Speaker
yeah And then. The hand scene is before this. Oh, the hand scenes before this? Oh, something happens to where Nell's like, ah she she like runs to the nursery and... um This is the door scene, right? This is when the door broken.
01:01:54
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, And then, so she gets freaked out and ah runs to the nursery. They... What do you want call it? She's gone. they bitch wife is gone. And but dr Ghost Hunter is where's wife? Where's my wife?
01:02:07
Speaker
Where's my wife? Where's my wife? why is Jodie Foster sounds just like just like it yeah um and uh And she's like, i don't know.
01:02:19
Speaker
I don't know. And then she goes back to being sad and then decides to, she's like, I have to stay. I have to sit And he's like, no, you got to go. You got to go. And she's like, no, I have to stay.
01:02:31
Speaker
I have to stay. And then like she hates her sister so much. She would rather stay in a house full of evil ghosts than go back to live with her sister for one minute. Exactly. She's like, I'm homeless. Um,
01:02:42
Speaker
she's going up she's uh she's the oh yeah earlier in the spiral staircase around the spiral staircase is like coming off of the wall yeah and it's real shaky and spooky and so she's climbing up there presumably to jump off and kill herself dr markway climbs up after her and he's he's reaching out to her and but at first she's like leaning back like she's gonna jump anyway and then she lets him grab her And then the trap door opens and she sees Mrs. Markway. And that's like this jump scare where you think it's a ghost at first because she's all like disheveled and she's wearing like a white nightgown.
01:03:14
Speaker
And she looks, she's going, ah. And then the, yeah. And then the trap door closes and she's like, I saw your wife. She's in the trap door. And he's like, okay, we'll handle it later. Yeah, he's like, shut up. He seems real blasé about his missing wife.
01:03:26
Speaker
Yeah. But that scene is probably, i remember that scene scared me for years when I watched this sounds like as a kid. Like that scene, I would think about probably once a week for years.
01:03:40
Speaker
oh god really yeah and it's just something that just always stayed with me was her going up and seeing the ghost um yeah yeah i love it so it's like the house took mrs markway instead of her and she's like we she goes back to took the wrong they took the wrong one like i'm the one i'm home i'm home she starts shouting and they're like okay listen you're gonna get out of here go to your car ah luke go with her and uh she gets so they put her in her car and they're like you need to go home and luke gets in the car with her but they don't have the key to the gate so he gets out of the car to get the gate from dr markway and then she starts driving without him yeah and she goes i'm going home i'm going home and i'm like what but you're driving away from the house that's not the point and
01:04:26
Speaker
And then like, it seems like she's fighting with the wheel.
Nell's Tragic End
01:04:29
Speaker
Like it's like the wheel like is is moving on its own. And she's like, why are you doing this? And she's fighting. And then she, somebody runs across the street and she runs and and she crashes into a tree and dies.
01:04:38
Speaker
Yeah. Which was, we find out the same tree that the first yes Mrs. Crane died of, died, her carriage hit and she died. So it's all come full circle. Cause the house didn't just want her to stay. They wanted her to stay forever.
01:04:54
Speaker
Forever. And then the the the woman running across the road was Mrs. Markway. Not a ghost. um And everyone was like, where the fuck have you been? And she's like, I just got lost. and i just I couldn't figure out where I was. And I just got lost.
01:05:10
Speaker
don't know how I got here. Yeah. um And then she yeah she says, something at last is happening to me before she crashes the car. Yeah. yeah in her little um And that something is suicide.
01:05:22
Speaker
And then we're out. like And then it's like. Hey, wasn't that scary? Good night.
01:05:30
Speaker
Don't worry about the rest of these guys and how they got to explain a whole bunch of nonsense to the cops. But ah yeah, we done. yeah And that's the haunting.
01:05:41
Speaker
That's the haunting. Yeah. Yeah. Any other thoughts, feelings, opinions? um I don't think so. I think I got a lot of it out. I laughed really hard because when she she has this moment where she's talking to the Hugh Crane statue where she's like, I'm here, Hugh.
01:05:56
Speaker
I'm here. and I was like, is this bitch about to fuck a statue? i think this bitch is about to fuck a statue. Right? Like, can you imagine if she got left to her own devices? She'd fuck that statue.
01:06:08
Speaker
Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? Nell crazy. That seems like a great way to get a yeast infection. Oh, absolutely. Especially an old dusty statue. Yeah, old moffy, dusty statue.
01:06:22
Speaker
That's how you get, like, gangrene in your vagina. It's ah double yeast infection. yeah Yeah. um So I was going to say, there's a lot of these great shots of the house, like super high contrast, the house, and then, like, the black sky behind it. And they did that by shooting it on infrared film, um read. That's so cool.
01:06:43
Speaker
That is so cool. Fucking love be. Hey, Emma, what are we doing next week?
Upcoming 100th Episode Announcement
01:06:51
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Katie, thank you so much for asking. um Next week is a very special episode.
01:06:56
Speaker
It is it is a very special episode. Pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. episode of Go Get Your Girl. 100.
01:07:10
Speaker
It seems like we just started. i know. it seems like just yesterday. We were like, hey, let's do a podcast. I cannot believe it's been two years. How, where has the time gone?
01:07:21
Speaker
And... ah Mostly down the drain. Yeah, mostly down the drain. um When we first started this podcast, I thought that as a society, we would be in a better place by our 100th episode. But... We are not.
01:07:34
Speaker
We are. Definitely not. So, because it's a special episode, um there is one movie... ah dedicated listeners to this podcast know is very special to both Emma and Katie.
01:07:46
Speaker
And they think it is the world's most perfect, amazing movie of all time. And it is fantastic and they love it. And um we have to do it on the pod. It could be considered a rom-com. It also could considered a horror film. It also could be considered an action film. It's kind neither of those things. Yeah.
01:08:04
Speaker
It's genre-less because it's perfect. yeah Katie, would you like to introduce... It is the 1999 cinematic masterpiece, The Mummy. Stephen Sommers is The Mummy.
01:08:17
Speaker
Boo-boo-boo!
01:08:20
Speaker
hes you We're going to try to keep the conversation to an hour and a half, but no promises. No promises. No promises. I could probably quote the entire thing, and I probably don't need to, though.
01:08:32
Speaker
We don't need to. We don't need to. I was once a member many years ago when I was still on Facebook. I was a member of the Mummy ah a mummy like fan page on Facebook group.
01:08:44
Speaker
And there was a meme there, which I have i was always stuck in my head. It's not really even a meme. It's just like a fun little fact, but it was presented in meme format. It was like, what's the longest sentence you can say? What's the longest sentence you can write without the letter A? And it was, hey, Benny, looks like you're on the wrong side of the river. It's like, yeah, there's not an A in that sentence. Look at that.
01:09:06
Speaker
There go. Hey, Benny. What weird person to have discovered that and written it out and put it on the internet. And I love that. And that's, that's what the internet is for. You know, that is what the internet is for.
01:09:19
Speaker
It is not for anything else, but discovering that your favorite movie can contain an entire sentence without the vowel a. Correct. Yeah. A long sentence at that.
01:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Anyways. and Yeah, so great tune in for that. yeah Yeah. Because of this, we're doing an extra week of Go Get Your Goal. So it's four horror movies. And that's why we started this a week early. So yeah. yeah It's four horror movies and a masterpiece.
01:09:48
Speaker
Smashed in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. Shall we outro? Let's outro. Amazing. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:10:03
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Podcast Credits and Sign-off
01:10:11
Speaker
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01:10:17
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