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The House Bunny
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Context. It was 2008. It was a very different time. The Girls Next Door was one of the hottest shows on cable, Emma & Katie go deep on what exactly was in the water back then, and also the whole deal with Playboy, Sororities, nostalgia blinders for bad movies, and the leagility of raw milk.
Also, bad news about Marvin.
Woof.
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Transcript
Visit to Upscale Grocery Store
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Charlie and I went to the bougiest of bougie grocery stores today. this the one with the animatronics or no? No, no, no. Not, not Steel Onnors. Loves Steel Onnors. Animatronics, not really bougie, I guess.
00:00:11
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No, but it is fabulous. And it is a Connecticut staple. No, we went to, it was like, it's in this town, next town over called Woodbury, which is really nice.
00:00:22
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And it's like where the Connecticut Antiques Trail is. So it's like all bougie people. And it their own Indy like Whole Foods place.
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So it's like stuff you can't get from. it was like when Whole Foods was originally Whole Foods before it got bought out by Amazon. Right, yeah right, right. And it was like insanely weird, organic.
00:00:51
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stuff that you can't get at any other grocery store. Sure. um Like, they're they're selling... um i bought some garlic from a local farm. ah nice. Yeah. Garlic farm. All the, like, meat and ah dairy, you could get stuff from, like, local farms.
Raw Milk Legality in Connecticut
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They have raw milk.
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Gross. Yeah. Gross. Isn't that illegal? Uh...
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don't know. Maybe it wasn't completely raw, but it was pretty raw.
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It was pretty raw. i Connecticut is general retail safe allowed.
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oh And they just changed that between 2012 and 2018. Oh, nice. can't cross state lines. Yeah.
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ah nice let cross state line yeah So i can't I can't go to any other state with this raw milk. That is correct, yes. Ooh, that is intense.
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I will say it was like $12 for a quart. you You bought some? No, no, no. no No, no. I was just looking at the price. I did buy this fancy, going to have to have a meeting like ai again?
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No, I mean, but does raw milk make you sick? Like, why is it illegal? Yes. Yes. It makes you sick. So then why do people buy it Because they're brainwashed by podcasters and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. into thinking that it's better for you.
00:02:31
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Because those people are making money. And they're selling it for like $12, like gallon. exactly
Passion for Cinema and Friendship
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In like little artisanal glass bottles.
00:02:44
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It's a scam. It's a scam. Just like everything else in this world. It's a scam. Everything is a scam. Yeah. The world's a terrible place.
00:02:54
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hiba You know what's not a scam? What? This podcast. This podcast. were going to say. Because making any money. no we're not, baby. We do this for the love of cinema.
00:03:08
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And for friendship. And for each other. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. As an excuse to hang out.
00:03:16
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Which is nice because there's a built-in conversation topic. There's no opposite. That's true.
Grocery Store Etiquette Issues
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That's true. Yeah. Yeah. What were you about to say though? Sorry. Oh, just, um, it was a fancy smancy, grocery store.
00:03:29
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And for, I told Charlie as we were leaving, I was like for such a calm Zen like store. Cause like they were sold like, you know, sage bundles and like incense and, you know, all that sort of like boomer bullshit, bullshit, uh, boomer new age Nonsense, as Charlie would call it. Nonsense.
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Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. um yeah everyone like The customers, it was not the people that worked there. The people worked there perfectly nice. It was the customers.
00:04:06
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Nobody knew how to walk. Everybody was like constantly just running in to you because they just like had no spatial awareness. I know what you mean, but nobody knew how to walk made me think that everyone was disabled.
00:04:21
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For a second. oh no no. Nobody knew how to walk in that. They like. Yeah, I got to understand making way for others because they sure not
Introduction to 'The House Bunny'
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in their vocabulary.
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You're telling me the rich people that shop at this ah bougie grocery store are maybe not cognizant of other people. Exactly. Exactly. Everybody was like kind of a dick.
00:04:42
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And like, I try to like go by and go, excuse me excuse me. and like people would not move. And I was like, what the fuck is up with this? Sounds like a terrible place. A fucking terrible place.
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Fucking ridiculous. That was the Connecticut that my mother remembers. ah Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ah Not the Connecticut i know.
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the people who live there and commute to New York City every day probably. Yeah, exactly. Who can afford $24 every day for a round trip ticket? What, on the train?
00:05:16
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Yeah, it's $12 in, $12 out, baby. Surely there's like a monthly thing. Oh, I bet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I mean, this is from where I get on, which is Fairfield.
00:05:27
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um I'm sure the closer you get, the cheaper it is. Yeah. um Just like Chicago. But um for me, it's $12 in. Well, anyway.
Cultural Backdrop of Playboy
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Anyways, that's right, guys.
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You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie...
00:05:50
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why Emma and Katie do what, Emma? Emma and katie all they want is to be a centerfold in the problematic publication. Playboy ran by a problematic man named Hugh Hefner.
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and we live in the problematic place that is the Playmore Mansion. But then we turn 27 and we get kicked out. I mean... The important thing to start with is it's 2008.
00:06:19
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Like without that vital piece of knowledge at the beginning of this. Yep. Yep. Yep. It's 2008. No, that's okay. Okay. yeah no that's and We needed no context.
00:06:30
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The girls next door is the hottest thing on television. It is the hottest thing on television. And I wrote several times. I got so excited when I saw the girls next door. my God. But, yeah. So Emma and Katie ah are living in the Playboy Mansion. And we turn 27. And we get kicked out of the house.
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um We receive a letter from Hugh,
Dark Side of the Playboy Mansion
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supposedly. wink, nudge, nudge. Please, half. Come on. Sorry. Half. Oh my God. I'm going to vomit every time I have to talk about, and we'll get, we'll get to why Katie.
00:07:06
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I, ah okay. Um, and, uh, we are homeless and we stumble upon college and a bunch of sorority houses. Seems that way.
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That we can be a sorority house mother. And so we take the down on their luck Zetas and we become their house mother and also their like sister for life.
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And it's about found family and loving each other. After the first 15 minutes, it gets a lot less yikesy. It gets a lot less yikesy, yes.
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That's right, guys. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. And today we are talking about... And this is Go Get Your Girl. Did we say Go Get Your girl i always yeah I always started with I black out when you mentioned And today we're talking about the 2008 movie The House Bunny, um which is written ah by our girls, Karen McCullough and Kristen Smith, who wrote Legally Blonde and 10 Things I Hate About You and She's the Man and Ella Enchanted.
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and I noticed that they have eight 18
Plot and Character Journey in 'The House Bunny'
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projects as listed it as uh upcoming on imdb either in pre-production in development or in um or an actual production and that's the most i think i've ever seen jesus yeah i wonder how long those have all been like in progress yeah god knows i mean i don't know like i don't know if you've ever used imdb pro like when i worked uh at a theater we had imdb pro on all the computers there and so like it will tell you like the people yeah have to remember people upload the stuff on imdb themselves yeah like people's agents go on and put these things on imdb so yeah unless someone takes it off god knows how long it's been there they also haven't had anything produced in a long time since the ugly truth and the ugly truth is what killed their careers basically um bad
00:09:13
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I've never actually seen it, but i I've heard it's very bad. I mean, it's not as bad as you might think, but it's pretty bad. We'll watch it. I've seen it more times. Is it worse than 27 Dresses, Emma?
00:09:24
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Yes. Wow. and that's Because 27 Dresses is canon,
Film Cast and Sorority Life
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Katie. 27 Dresses is canon. um Sure, sure, sure, sure. The movie is directed by, and this is a bit of a jump, Fred Wolfe.
00:09:41
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who um directed ah movie called Strange Wilderness, Joe Dirt 2, not Joe Dirt 1. And then he wrote Joe Dirt 1, the movie Without a Paddle, and Grown Ups, the Adam Sandler vehicle, Grown Ups.
00:10:00
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So, I mean, this is this is a Happy Madison production. Adam Sandler produced this. This came from an idea from Anna Faris herself. And she was a producer on this movie as well. ah that And it's so it's it's definitely got this kind of blend of like an Adam Sandler movie and yeah a, you know, Karen McCullough and Kristen Smith movie. yeah So it's an Adam Sandler five chick flick.
00:10:31
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Yeah, it kind of is. It kind of is. Like, I would still say that this is a movie, like, you know, despite the term, you know, chick flick, I think that this movie is something that was targeted to women.
00:10:44
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Yes. um But it is definitely, it does it definitely
Sorority Life and Character Transformations
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still has some of that. I mean, it's not like raunchy, but I guess, you know, Adam Sandler movies aren't that raunchy, really. I mean, most of them are rated like PG-13, like this movie is.
00:10:59
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To be fair, I haven't seen a lot of Adam Sandler movies, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. But from the public perception and from the ones that I've i've seen, that seems to be the way that it is. It's not like a Farrelly Brothers thing.
00:11:11
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Yeah. Yeah. What did you say? I said, I just remember Mr. Deeds. 51st Dates. Yeah. We did The Wedding Singer on this on this podcast. Yes. Which is good.
00:11:22
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Love The Wedding Singer. um Like the rom-commy ones I've seen. i have been forced to see Billy Madison many times by a group of friends who love it very much. I never saw it when I was a kid. And they would constantly quote it.
00:11:36
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And they still do. And now, because of Movie Night, I've been forced to watch it multiple times. And I refuse to refuse to give in to it like every time. They're like, so do you like it now? And I'm like, no.
00:11:46
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This movie's awful. Yes. No. There's nothing makes me want to watch it. I think if you don't have the nostalgia for it, like if you didn't watch it when you were a kid, like that movie for me is Tommy Boy. Like when I was like eight years old, Tommy Boy was on like every afternoon on Comedy Central.
00:12:03
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And I watched that movie a million times. And I have a lot of, um have a lot of fondness for for Tommy Boy and specifically Chris Farley in that movie, much less so in his other movies. But like, I feel like that movie has a lot more like sweetness and heart yeah than a lot of those other movies. Have you seen Tommy Boy?
00:12:20
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No.
00:12:22
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I've watched it again, you know, and I think that it holds up. I think that that is a a much sweeter movie than people remember. Yeah.
00:12:33
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And I think it's cute. Yeah. I just do. I mean, yes, it is a lot of fat jokes, but it was like 1994 or whatever. Yeah. And if you kind of accept that, you you do notice that it is, yeah, he's a sweet person that everyone likes.
00:12:47
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And that is at the heart of all of that. So I think that's, and that's what's different from his later movies, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for me, that's like, well, I don't know.
00:12:57
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Everything I liked is pretty great. so Of course, yeah. No, come on. You have to have... There's some movie that... I mean, like, there's everybody's got movies to like as kids. We just showed... The first thing that comes to my mind is we just showed um our friend Ben Austin Powers. He'd never seen Austin Powers before. No, that's a great movie.
00:13:15
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That's... There's no... Yeah. The first two movies are legitimately very good. Yeah. Yeah.
Comedy and Cultural Impact of the Film
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But he wasn't a fan of it. Is he British? No, no. so He's American.
00:13:26
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He's from Ohio. I don't get it. Yeah, I don't get it either. wrong. Sorry, Ben. You're wrong. Suck it, Ben. ah I guess, like, I don't.
00:13:41
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I don't know. It's fine. Yeah. yeah I'm sure you'll think of it. like But yeah, i think everybody has movies like that, that are, that are like not good movies, but yeah you have, you watched a bunch as a kid and you have nostalgia for it. And that like keeps it like you, you have, you, you, you have that memory that you think of fondly and that overshadows the the actual movie.
00:14:04
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This actually, this movie is like kind of a little bit, in there i mean i watched it as kid um because i was you would have to be very young i would have to be very young and but as we were watching it last night charlie was like what is happening and i was like quoting it as we were watching it and was like this movie is so good i fucking love this movie so much and he goes what is happening this
Authenticity and Confidence Themes
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weird fever dream of a movie.
00:14:34
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It is a bit of a fever dream. there But here's the thing here's the thing. This movie coasts by on the unlimited charm of Anna Faris. Who is fan-fucking-tastic.
00:14:46
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She's so funny in this. Like, she's funny in everything. She is, like, the opposite of Jared Leto, you know? Yeah. Like, Jared Leto, ah worst part of everything he's in. Anna Faris is better than every movie she's in. You know what I mean? Like, every time. i love Best Friends.
00:15:04
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. She's great in that. She deserved an Oscar for her role in that. Just Friends. Oh, sorry. Just Friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um and i didn't know if there was another movie you were talking about i wasn't trying to correct you sorry no no no uh thank you for correcting the correct title of the movie not best friends just friends um and um and she's fantastic in this she's the only reason why i went and watched ah several seasons of a sitcom Her sitcom, Mom. Oh, you watched Mom?
00:15:36
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I watched Mom. Not like demotedly. But like, I mean, like, it's not great, but it's good to put on in the background while you're doing laundry. Because it's her and Alice and Janie, and they're both great. But the the show is the guy who did Two and a Half Men.
00:15:49
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Yeah,
Conclusion on Sisterhood in 'The House Bunny'
00:15:50
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and it's got that vibe, but like, it's still really fun. Yeah. I mean, I watched it. sure yeah um yeah she's the scary movie movies also like just terrible movies but she's again she's great in them uh what's your number also yep which we did on this show exactly which again she was fantastic and problematic film she made it fly Yeah, yeah. um Can you imagine? and she but Can you believe she had sex with nine people, Emma? Isn't that insane?
00:16:24
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oh my god, that's so... 19. 19 people. That's so many people, Kitty. That's so many people. I can't believe it. So many people. i can't even... It's disgusting. It's so gross. What a
00:16:41
Speaker
Man, oh man. um Yeah. Shall we... Speaking of whore... Oh, okay. Should we address the bunny-sized elephant in the room?
00:16:54
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um Yes. So, again, people, it's 2008. It was a different time. There was a network called VH1. Yes.
00:17:04
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No, it was on e Girls Next Door was on Was it on E? Okay. was on E Entertainment. there I watched the Girls Next Door devotedly. Don't take this as an insult, but I'm not surprised to learn that Yeah.
00:17:18
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But like E and VH1 and MTV and a lot of these A&E, like, and eventually like the History Channel and the Travel Channel and Discovery, like all bet so big on reality shows. And they wanted to make a reality show about anything.
00:17:35
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So MTV had the Osbournes. Yep. Which is great. that the first one? Is that the first one about a family? it was like this celebrity family's reality show? I think it might have been. I think might have not, was first one that got really big.
00:17:49
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Yeah. Yeah. pretty sure it the Osborne. And that became huge... Yeah. So RIP Ozzy Osborne just a few weeks ago at the time of this recording. Yep. His family... He was such a weird guy and his family is so weird. And they're like, let's put cameras in their house.
00:18:03
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Yeah. And... You know, follow them around. And then The Simple Life was around the same time. And ye then everybody had to have one. Yep. And so E, which, if anybody remembers E. Entertainment.
00:18:18
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My recollection of e was basically, it was talk soup. And then pornography that you could broadcast over the... cable um it was just like here's a bunch of like we're gonna go to the beach and just show you a bunch of people on spring break like that's all it was e entertainment hu and then also rom-coms they would just play like random rom-coms just oh really yeah if you're ever in a gym and you want something to watch go to e wait is e still around oh yeah
00:18:53
Speaker
Oh my God. Well, I guess that's what they do now. i But it was all reality shows and reruns of reality shows. yeah um The Kardashians started there.
00:19:06
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Yeah, the Kardashians, the yeah the Housewives, all of those shows, they all started on these networks around this time. And some of them are still in the Housewives. They're still going strong. The Housewives are a little later though, because that was after the Cho Desperate Housewives.
00:19:18
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So anyway. no The Girls Next Door was about the the polyamorous relationship of Hugh Hefner, the 80-something-year-old man who founded Playboy magazine in the 50s?
00:19:37
Speaker
60s. You'll have to forgive me. Oh, yeah. don't know much. Yeah. I don't know much about Playboy magazine. okay, Katie. It's okay. I've listened to both Holly Madison's autobiographies tape. So why don't you tell us about Playboy?
00:19:49
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I know this. So Hugh Hefner, he started the Playboy magazine in the 50s as a way to like showcase masculinity and show ladies titties.
00:20:03
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um Well, but actually for a long time, there was no titties. It was just like scantily clapped ladies. Well, because originally there was a magazine called Esquire, which is very which is still around today and was very popular and was a magazine for men, basically. And it was there were there was no nudity in that in that magazine.
00:20:21
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Yeah. but He kind of got the idea from that, right? Yeah. And he made Playboy. And around the 2000s, in the Y2K era, I don't know why,
00:20:33
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But everybody was all about the Playboy Mansion and the Playboy Bunnies and Playboy. And they, I mean, like, even before the um Girls Next Door became a show, like, the little bunny emblem was, like, everywhere.
00:20:51
Speaker
yeah. I mean, there were there were clubs. The Playboy Club in Chicago was a big thing. you know, my sister... sent us like a matchbook from the original playboy club once that she found in some like thrift shop or something from the from like the 60s um my dad once lost his keys out in front of the playboy club and he had to go inside and ask to use the phone oh no um or so he says sure sure yeah It's like, but here, it been like, it's, and it's kind of quaint when you think about it now. Yeah. Like, compared to, to things, like, the the publication itself, because it's a real magazine.
00:21:29
Speaker
Yes. That had, like, there are famous works of fiction that were, and nonfiction that were originally published in Playboy. Like, there were the, the, like, interviews with, like, legitimate, like, serious journalists and stuff like that. All happened in Playboy in addition to softcore, like, pornography. Right? Yeah.
00:21:49
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Yeah, and the for longer and longer that the magazine went on, the more and more pornographic it became. guys oh really? Because became synonymous with the Playboy Bunny, which originally were yeah just the waitresses, or the women that worked, the beautiful women that worked at the club, and then who became the centerfold.
00:22:09
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And um basically Hugh Hefner wanted to be James Bond without having to do any spy stuff. Right. Which is the best part of James Bond, I would think, but.
00:22:21
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Not to Hugh Hefner. ah So he had this massive mansion. And in the 2000s, it became desirable to um become one of Hugh's girlfriends.
00:22:33
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So Hugh would have. again is a man in his 80s at this point. Yes, a man in his 80s. And if you became a girlfriend of Hugh Hefner, you got to move into your own room in the mansion. Right.
00:22:45
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And it was basically like a sorority house, but you had to have sex with Hugh Hefner, who, again, is an 80-something-year-old grandpa. and um And not only that, but, like, is such a fucking manipulative, or, we sorry, was how post, he's dead.
00:23:07
Speaker
Rest in piss, Hugh Hefner. Yeah. Yeah. He was constantly, he constantly gaslit these ladies, like, mentally manipulated them, would get them to, like do gross shit so that he, you know, by like, saying that they would be, like, they would get, like, a centerfold or whatnot, um and then never, like, actually giving them The centerfold.
00:23:36
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The main thing that I learned from Down the Bunny Hole, which is Holly Madison, who was one of the girls next door. Surely that's not what it's called, right? It's called Down the Rabbit Hole. dad That makes more sense. Down the Bunny Hole is gross.
00:23:49
Speaker
Down the Bunny Hole better. I think it should have been called Down the Bunny Hole. lets see Let's see. He died in 2017. So the same year as Me Too. So he got out just in time, really. Yeah.
00:24:00
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And luckily then um all of these like, you the girls next door was a reality show that followed three of the girls um who were specifically picked the only one who was an actual girlfriend at the time was holly um but uh let's see there's holly kendra and who was the third one they're all in this movie i think they all that are funny girls yeah Holly Bridget um so Holly was the only one that was like the girl an actual girlfriend and then and she married him right no no no no she never married him she got engaged to him but um she uh she never married him thank and again she's like in her late 20s and he's 85 she moved in when she was like 23 and
00:24:53
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22. I mean, yeah. yeah I mean, ah fucking Shelly moved in when she was 18 in this movie. yeah Yeah. And like, it would be like, they would have like theme nights where they had to follow like schedules and they have to dress.
00:25:06
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They had to dress like a certain way. They couldn't like be seen doing X, Y, and Z. Like it, he was very controlling in a really disgusting way.
00:25:17
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And um it was so that these girls like didn't have to work. they could just live at his house. But as soon as like, if you broke any of his rules, you got kicked out.
00:25:28
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Like what they show, like Shelly, like not getting her like fancy car and having to take like her old car back. Like that is all like very true. Like you would, would not get, let you have a single penny or like anything if you left the mansion or, you know, even if you like gave up 10 years of your life, helping,
00:25:52
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being a model for like certain photo shoots and it's just disgusting. Um, he's the worst. It made me really mad listening, but I listened to all of them. Also fun fact, Holly also dated Chris Angel, who was also a manipulative piece of shit.
00:26:11
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Unsurprising. Unsurprising. yes. So that is kind of the background of this movie in the kind of like, That's the cultural context for for this movie, which is a thing that people would watch on, like, cable.
00:26:26
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Yeah. And it was glamorized to the fact that, like, every celebrity just wanted to go to a party at the mansion. Like, was a hot ticket. That's a thing since the 60s. Like, Playboy Mansion parties were always, like, the grotto and stuff. And, like, yeah he would have, like, you know, specials about it and stuff like that. It was, yeah, it was very much glamorized. Like, sometimes you think that, like,
00:26:47
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you know 2008 2006 is not that long ago but then there's things like that where you're like like they would never do that now no i mean they would they just wouldn't talk about it as openly as they did that no no i mean like a tele a cable network oh yeah no no no yeah um we have love island which i suppose is not much better but it's at least like not celebrities yeah yeah You know, like, one of those celebrities. Like, Weezer fucking shot part of their music video for Beverly Hills at the Playboy Mansion. Well, here's the thing. Like, I think that the the the the girls next door off also, like, sanitized the the image of yeah Hugh Hefner, like, a lot. And made him, like, cuddly and safe. And this movie certainly does the same thing. Where, like, he is...
00:27:35
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never portrayed as anything other than like a sweet old man. Yes. When it that is the opposite of what he is. He is ah was a manipulative piece of shit. Yeah.
00:27:45
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He's exactly like you would expect him to be. i think like The type of guy to have like eight girlfriends. Yeah. Who he controls what they wear, how they, um how much they eat, what they do, like absolute fucking bullshit.
00:28:02
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Yeah. But I watched that show religiously. I loved it. And I. And that is my ah first two notes is woof. Hugh Hefner, woof.
00:28:13
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Girls next door. Yeah. um The. So, yes, this movie begins with Shelley, played by Anna Faris, who is an orphan who nobody wanted.
00:28:24
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Yes. She's like, and everybody got a family. Well, except for me. Nobody wanted me. And then I got pretty. And everybody wanted me. But then she got hot. And so she moved into the Playboy Mansion when she was 18.
00:28:38
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And she like she doesn't have a family. like She has these like horrible people who yeah live in the Playboy Mansion. Including Marvin.
00:28:50
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Now, let's take a minute on Marvin. On Marvin. Do you know about this? No, I don't. Tell me about Marvin. Uh-oh. All right. amen So, yeah. Okay. so we should say her her main goal is she wants to be a centerfold.
00:29:05
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She says, um is centerfold makes a statement. It says, I'm naked in the middle of a magazine.
00:29:16
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So Marvin is played by, um why did I not write his name down? God damn it. um ah marvin is played by a man named something owen benjamin who is a white supremacist and a holocaust denier who thinks transgender people are a conspiracy to decrease the world population that dinosaurs never existed, the moon landing is faked, the world is flat, and that the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki never happened.
00:29:52
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He's been kicked off every social media platform, and including both Patreon and Patreon for the alt-right. He got kicked off that as well. But has been, of course, reinstated onto Twitter by Elon Musk.
00:30:05
Speaker
He has a very popular podcast, of course. He is a, um you know, a figure in the conspiracy theory, like alt-right world. Yeah.
00:30:17
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And he plays the cook? He plays Marvin, yeah.
00:30:22
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What the fuck?
00:30:27
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So, you know, there's two monsters in this movie, really. Right? Yeah. ha I mean, all of the men from Anna Faris's old world, yeah they suck.
00:30:42
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of I mean, just pratt Chris Pratt's in this movie, apparently. I didn't see him. Where? don't know. i did not see him oh were they married by this time uh i don't know yeah so she has a birthday party with the big choreographed dance which is how you do it obviously we love it it's her 27th birthday party and the next morning she gets evicted by hugh hefner because 27 59 bunny years yeah movie annna ferris is also thirty three when she made this movie
00:31:15
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She loses her car and everything, basically. Her cat abandons her. Pooter! Pooter doesn't want to leave the Playboy Mansion.
00:31:26
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Yeah. I love Pooter. And there's some we have some uncomfortable jokes. We have a roofie joke ah and a um ah blowjob in exchange for getting off of a ticket joke, like in pretty quick succession, which are both pretty yikesy.
00:31:41
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Yep. And then there's a transgender sex worker joke, which again is 2008. You were legally required to do it. Like you, if if that movie went to the producers and there wasn't a trans person joke in there, they would send it back.
00:31:55
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Jesus fucking Christ. Woof. And she is dressed like this is. This is why I hate my body. This is the most aggressively 2008 movie
00:32:11
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This is what we thought beauty standards were. i mean, 2008 is a little bit after. I think it's supposed to be like kitschy and throwbacky, right?
00:32:26
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Like, is that is that not part of it? Is there not supposed to be like she's a little past her prime in any of these? like No. I remember watching this like in 2008 and feeling like that's how people dress.
00:32:39
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Yeah, it seems so dated now, is probably just my perspective on it. It's like, I didn't... i Really, we were still dressing like that in 2008? Yeah. Oh, yeah. hoya You betcha.
00:32:51
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It seems like... it's it's it It all seems very like very early 2000. And of course, you know, it's it's coming back. um The micro skirts and the... Yeah. yeah So...
00:33:03
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She doesn't know what a sorority is, it seems. She doesn't really know anything except for how to give blowjobs and be naked.
00:33:14
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And how to manipulate men, ah which kind of like her go-to, which is like a valuable skill, let's be fair, but is like hindering her relationships with not just men, but but all people, really.
00:33:28
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Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:31
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She is, you know, ditzy and ah not really sure how the world works. And she gets she gets thrown in jail for attempting to give a cop a blowjob.
00:33:44
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Yep. um Because that's what she thought he was asking for. he asked her to blow on this and he needs the breathalyzer and she gets on her knees. and Which is very literal for anybody who knows what a blowjob is, really. Right. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
00:34:02
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But yeah, and then she she spends the night in jail and she wanders into a sorority house thinking it's like the Playboy Bunny. and she's sitting on the curb but and she hears girls talking about a party and so she follows them to their sorority mansion
00:34:22
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and they are mean to her because of course because they're horrible uh stuck up uh people um yeah rich girls yep and they uh they kick her out but she discovers a meeting of the house mothers and decides that being a house mother is like the job for her which yeah i mean there's a lot of administrative work in being a house mother which kind of gets glided over in this yeah were you in a sorority were you no no no no um in a different life yeah i i give off the personality of someone that would have um
00:35:02
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I see. I don't think that's true. Maybe, I mean, maybe people who don't know you very well think that you give off. Probably. Probably. Just like i yeah um um I have the personality of someone who's obsessed with Jane Austen.
00:35:15
Speaker
Well, you are obsessed with Jane Austen. I'm not obsessed with Jane Austen. This is a new development for me because I'm in Pride and Prejudice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um We, we didn't have ah sorority houses or, or fret houses at my school. um They were not allowed.
00:35:31
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um we had we had sororities and fraternities but they weren't you weren't allowed to to have a house there were some houses off campus that were kind of like de facto but there was it was all kind of like you know open secret kind of stuff and everyone did every sorority and fraternity didn't have one yeah oh we had like like a thousand people oh oh yeah I most colleges do, yeah. Yeah.
00:35:56
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My college had it. And um we had, there was one theater guy that was in a frat and we went, I won't remember going to one of his frat parties and ah that house was bleak, man.
00:36:09
Speaker
Oh, the fraternity house was bleak? Yeah. Bleak. Bleak. Bleak. walk Yeah, for fraternities and sororities were were different. I went to a lot of fraternity and sorority parties in college because that's where a lot of the parties were.
00:36:26
Speaker
Again, it's a school with a thousand students. yeah And despite there was one fraternity that was like, nobody goes to those. like That is a scary place that no one goes to. yeah And there was one...
00:36:40
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I think I'm pretty sure like I had like second like secondary internship not like really close friends I mean my my one of my best friends was in a sorority a couple of my best friends were in sororities but like I'm pretty sure I had at least like a good acquaintance in like every sorority um it was really spread out at our school there wasn't like the bitch sorority you know what i mean like yeah it's a lot more nuanced than that Yeah, no. there was definitely like a nerd frat though that one of my really good friends was the president of.
00:37:12
Speaker
Nice. Have you ever seen the TV show Greek? Yes. Yes, I have. So I love that show. Of course you do. That is not a surprise.
00:37:23
Speaker
I think it's actually really good and people don't watch it because of the subject matter, but it's, I think it's actually a really good show about college. Yeah. The, um, Yeah, the fraternity, i can't remember what it's called. Like the main fraternity in that is pretty much exactly like the the nerd fraternity on my in my camera school. yeah Oh, buddy.
00:37:43
Speaker
ah I went to Texas. Oh, you did go to school in Texas. That's a whole different thing. That's a whole different thing, baby. Everything's different in Texas. Everything's different in Texas and everybody had that was in a sorority, all of their clothes had their Greek letters on them.
00:37:58
Speaker
It was like a whole thing. I was in the theater fraternity. Alpha Psi Omega. Yeah, Alpha Psi Omega. Well, i was I was in that, but that didn't that didn't count. Oh my God, are we sorority sisters?
00:38:13
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We probably shouldn't go by that.
00:38:17
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Yeah, you and me and every other theater person in the country, probably.
00:38:24
Speaker
Hey, I had to go through rigorous pledge initiation for Alpha Psi Omega. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was pretty illegal. The the amount of hazing that we did to the poor people in Alpha Psi Omega.
00:38:37
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Yeah, yeah. You think give theater kids ability to like go and be creative with their meanness. And the flair for the dramatic.
00:38:48
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Oh, yeah. Boy, oh boy. Did you have to do the thing where you, um we yeah we got taken out in the middle of the night to the football field and we had to, um we were told at the beginning of Pledge Week that we had to memorize a sonnet and,
00:39:05
Speaker
sonnet and And we had to know it word by word and like no substitutions. And we had to do whatever. We wouldn't know when, but they would like take us, kidnap us in the middle of the night and take us to the football field. And then we would all have to recite them. And if we got a single word wrong, we had to step back in line and then wait our turn.
00:39:28
Speaker
Did you have to do that? We did do that. Yeah. um It wasn't at the football field, though. I think we did it in the theater. Yeah. Yeah. nice nice know that it's a uh universal tradition yeah it seems like yeah um so anyway this movie this movie house bunny she and then she finds the loser sorority um which is the zetas and that is just packed with actors um ah way you've got
00:40:00
Speaker
We've got Emma Stone, two-time Academy Award winner, Emma Stone. this is but so This is the year after Superbad. Superbad was her big break. And this was like, I guess it's like the next big movie that she did, right? Yeah. going to go deep on her, but she's 19 in this movie. Yeah, she's a baby.
00:40:22
Speaker
We have Kat Dennings. Yep. We have Catherine McPhee. what And woof. Oh, wait, is she bad? Do we not like Catherine McPhee? Charlie looked her up because he goes, oh, it's Smash.
00:40:35
Speaker
Because I made him watch Smash. oh So he knows her from Smash. um And he looked her up and he goes, oh, woof. She was was she a supporter. Oh, of course she is. Yeah. Honestly, in her headshot here, she built she looks like one.
00:40:48
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yeah And then we have Rumor Willis, who know I have never seen anyone who looks like the perfect combination of their parents as Rumor Willis does.
00:41:01
Speaker
Like there was that old bit on Conan O'Brien of like, what if they made Where we take like Arnold Schwarzenegger and like you know, Iman or something. And then like, just, just Photoshop their faces together. And that is pretty much exactly what Bruce Willis and Demi Moore's faces smashed together would look like is, is rumor Willis. It's wild.
00:41:23
Speaker
It's so wild. Has she done anything recently? Cause I remember in the early 2000s, she was trying to get into acting, but it never really took off. Jesus. Like it's crazy. Sorry. Just a bunch more pictures of her popped up.
00:41:37
Speaker
She looks crazy. Just like both of them. say It's wild. I mean, that's how I feel about um Jack Quaid. Really? I mean, know. He looks like oh both of his parents so beautifully.
00:41:55
Speaker
guess, I don't know. i guess I see it. But it's just, it's surprising how much, I don't know. I don't know. um ah she was Once Upon a Time in Hollywood yeah but so was everybody yeah yes they are the loser girls in this sorority and they're all it's just a bunch of weirdos in this sorority and they're like they're gonna lose their house they're gonna lose their charter if they don't get 30 pledges which 30 pledges is way too many
00:42:33
Speaker
That's too many pledges. That's too many pledges. Because there's like, what, six of them? Or seven? Seven of them, yeah. So now you have 37 people living in one house.
00:42:45
Speaker
All right, so let's let's let's go let's go through them. We've got um emma Emma Stone, who is the leader and just a ah ah weirdo. She's like a nerd.
00:42:56
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little nerd. And everything she said and every way she said it, i was like, oh, she's me. That's me. Like when she's coming up with the idea for the parties and she goes, BYOM.
00:43:08
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Anna Faris is like, bring your own man. She goes, no, bring your own mouse because mice are so much cuter and hold them in your hand and you can like put little outfits on them. um my God. I would love to go to BYOM party. Yeah. I would too.
00:43:24
Speaker
So here's who we have. She's, yeah, she's a nerd and she's in charge. We have Kat Dennings who is,
00:43:32
Speaker
But she she's not really goth. She just has a lot of facial piercings. Hyper feminist. Um, like, um, uh, oh my gosh, what's it called?
00:43:44
Speaker
Uh, what's that Russian band that protests everything? Something pussy. ah Yeah. Pussy riot. Pussy riot. Yeah. Like pussy riot.
00:43:56
Speaker
Like that's her vibe. Yeah, yeah. She's got like, she's wearing this wig, like a really short. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah. Catherine McPhee is pregnant.
00:44:08
Speaker
Yep. And a hippie. ah Yeah, it seems like, yeah. Rumor Willis is in like a big big back brace, which is. Yep. never seen a back brace like that. It's like from the 1940s or something. Yep.
00:44:21
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It's like her whole body. We have Kimberly McCook, who is a little person or just very short. That's her thing. Yeah, she's just short.
00:44:33
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Yeah, we have Dana Goodman is Carrie Mae, who is... um a hillbilly guess ye is what she is yeah she has a very deep voice and is very aggressive and masculine but she's not like lesbian coded none of them are gay no um neither her nor kat dennings are are actually lesbian coded but she also says she's been in college for nine years so she doesn't have to go back to a trailer park in idaho
00:45:03
Speaker
And then we have Lily, who is, has been in stuff. um What is her name? Keely Williams. I don't know what she was in. She was in the Cheetah Girls.
00:45:15
Speaker
Yes, she was a cheetah girl. And she doesn't speak. She's so shy. She goes to the closet and texts them without saying anything. Yeah.
00:45:28
Speaker
but Those are the girls and they need to make their sorority popular. And it's very unpopular because they're weird.
00:45:39
Speaker
Yes. And they don't know how to talk to boys. Like the whole messaging of this film is the point of being in a sorority is to meet boys so that boys will like you and you go to parties.
00:45:53
Speaker
They kind of come back around to it at the end. yeah But that certainly is what they want at the beginning of the movie. Yes.
00:46:05
Speaker
But, you know, as Emma Stone says, like, she's like, aren't we supposed to be like, this supposed to be about sisterhood? Isn't this supposed to be about like sisterhood and service? And she's like, well, if we lose our house and our charter, we can't do any of those things. So in order to do that, we have to do this.
00:46:20
Speaker
Yeah. So there is like a little bit of lip service paid to it. And the speech that she gives at the end, like, they come back around to it being about sisterhood. But here's the thing, like, every, like, even the most, even my friends who were, like, the most sorority-pilled in college, like, yeah a few years afterward, they're like, that was so fucking stupid.
00:46:38
Speaker
Like, it's this, it's this kind of, like, temporary madness that befalls everybody when you're in college that's, like, you need to do this thing. Yeah. Like, there's ah There's an argument to be made for like, if you're at a big school, and there's like a sorority or a fraternity, and let's be honest, mostly fraternities that have like, well connected alumni, yeah who are going to help you do something because you were in that, that is a valid, if shallow and capitalistic reason do
00:47:14
Speaker
realize To do that, but realistic for sure, especially for, you know, business major majors and people like that who are. Yeah. I mean, some might say that, like, it also might come in handy if you were ever to go to law school and be picked to um intern for your professor.
00:47:32
Speaker
And he's working on this really intense, like, murder trial.
00:47:38
Speaker
And turns out that his new client was also in your sorority, but like a different year. And um she hates everybody almond on her. Exactly. She hates everyone on the legal team except for you. And that's because you were both Delta news.
00:47:52
Speaker
And what if her stupid ah stepdaughter kept getting perms?
00:48:00
Speaker
So there is something to be said about sisterhood. Yes. Yes. Um,
00:48:08
Speaker
So but But yeah I mean largely yeah If you don't know that Why are you listening to this podcast We have an entire episode on it Go listen to it now yeah um But I mean that's what they're for Sororities and fraternities are excuses to Have sex and have big drunken Parties and You know not do schoolwork I mean that's really what they're about And to have theme parties. Now, yeah I do love a theme party. do love a party.
00:48:41
Speaker
you can throw a theme party without the the thought that they are the auspices of ah of a sorority. My friend Chandler, a future guest of the show Chandler, and I founded a fraternity, a a parody of fraternities ah in college called DBO.
00:49:02
Speaker
Now she was in a sorority as well, ah as were many members, but we had shirts made because we wanted to wear them. And it's called DBO, which is the Drunken Belligerent Organization.
00:49:13
Speaker
Yes. And we had a retreat, we had a formal, and we had big parties. And I mean, kind of the thing was like, and then because we were friends with people who were in a bunch of different sororities and fraternities, it was kind of like a,
00:49:28
Speaker
You know, it was a joke, but also a way of, like, everybody can come to this. You know what i mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, And we threw theme parties. There you go. But I bet that nobody was an actual virgin.
00:49:40
Speaker
Well, we didn't have... I didn't know about an Aztec party. That's a great idea. Right? but No, there were definitely virgins in... in that I knew in college. We could have done that. But this movie wasn't out. like Or at least we didn't see it.
00:49:53
Speaker
yeah um So, yeah, we didn't know about the Aztec party. um We had, you know, we had some different... We had the end of the world party every year at the end of this. Oh, nice. um And... but out It doesn't matter.
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah. So this movie... We're almost at an hour in Yeah. So... um Also... Should we talk about the dirty little secret in the room?
00:50:24
Speaker
What's that?
00:50:27
Speaker
Emma Stone's love interest is the lead of All American Oh, the dirty little secret. The dirty little secret. Yes, yes, yes. You're right. Tyson Ritter the All American Rejects. Who has an OnlyFans.
00:50:39
Speaker
I learned yesterday he's got an OnlyFans. Good for him. Good for him. And... um Yes, he is the, at first it seems prickish, but turns out to be, he's a sweet weirdo at the end of the movie. He's just awkward.
00:50:56
Speaker
ah frat boy who she has a crush on. So yes, Anna Faris comes to their house and is like, I can be your house mother. And they're like, we don't, we can't do that. We we are, we're going to lose our charter. we That's ridiculous. And also they're a little mean to her. Emma Stone, not really, but Kat Dennings is pretty mean to her.
00:51:16
Speaker
Yeah, but Kat Dennings is mean to everybody at the beginning. She is. That's her deal. She's like, um what's her name from Daria? What is um Daria's best friend and Daria called? Oh, I forget. But she's Daria's best friend. Yeah.
00:51:28
Speaker
Yes. um Who looks a little bit like Kat Dennings, honestly. yeah but The... but then she's like, okay, well, I guess I'll just be homeless then. And she goes outside and is just doing yoga on the in the front yard and gets a ah bunch of boys to to come forward.
00:51:47
Speaker
um And so she's doing the thing. She's getting the boys. Yeah. And so they make her their house mother. Yeah. Which, like, again, being the house mother is, like, more about, like, running a house that has, like, 20 women who live in it, you know? Yeah, they don't care about that.
00:52:09
Speaker
my Like real sorority houses have like kitchen staff and stuff. Like it's like a, it's a, it's a huge, it's a mansion. It's like running a mansion and their house is like a house yeah instead of a mansion. And like, I don't know what they're going to do with 30. Obviously everybody who's in a sorority doesn't live in the sorority house, but um how are they going to I don't, in anyway. 37 people in that house, in like a five bedroom house.
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah. But she um also runs into Colin Hanks. who And Colin Hanks is there. um Very cute. i'm ah Always surprised he's in this movie. I always forget it's him in this movie.
00:52:49
Speaker
And he works at a retirement home and is like putting together activities for the seniors. And she...
00:53:00
Speaker
Yeah, she meet-cutes him and says that, you know, we could do that for our philanthropy, which she can always get the word wrong for the first two-thirds of the movie. Yep. And she also describes a retirement home as, like, an orphanage for old people. And I was like, oh my god!
00:53:16
Speaker
It's kind of what it is. Yeah. Kind what it is. Which, the other thing is, like, you know, because, of course, she is our protagonist, she is...
00:53:27
Speaker
dim but not ever unkind and she is yeah she's never bitchy and a lot of the the uh you know stereotypes for these things are is about bitchiness right for yeah you know playboy monies and sorority girls and so it's easy to continue to root for her despite how shallow and um ridiculous she is throughout all of it.
00:53:57
Speaker
because She's just so sweet. Yeah. um But then she decides she's going to teach all of them how to slut themselves up. yes So we have a montage. Makeover montage sponsored by Sephora.
00:54:12
Speaker
Who pay and this is another here's this is my Katie's moment of Emma where is this set? who's paying moment of where is this set so so your thing is that like you get wrapped around the axle on where is this set and for me in this movie that for me is who's paying for all of this who is is one of the girls rich do they have like a rich family is that because it certainly doesn't ever mention it but like they have
00:54:45
Speaker
like huge like prop and costume warehouse trucks like roll up to make the Aztec party like they build this huge volcano in the backyard they all get like makeovers and new wardrobes and like yeah how are we paying for this because here's the thing like the magic wand in every movie that's about having to fix something on a deadline the magic wand is really money yep because like her being there is a good influence, surely.
00:55:17
Speaker
And, you know, teaching these girls how to, um but and have have confidence. I was about say, how do I how do't put this positively?
00:55:28
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Confidence, Katie. It's all about confidence. Because again, like she goes too far and they end up becoming like shallow and then they recognize it and kind of correct themselves, themselves, honestly, which is,
00:55:41
Speaker
a little different from a lot of these movies. But the real thing that, that saves them like it does in real life and in most movies is money. The huge amount of money is what made them popular ah and saved their sorority.
00:55:56
Speaker
Yeah. Also who knocked up Catherine McPhee? That's what I got. Probably some high school boy. Yeah. Maybe. But I was just like, wait, so they're like losers who can't talk to boys. But obviously Catherine McPhee has talked to a boy because she's fucking pregnant.
00:56:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's a divine birth. We don't know. Do you think she tried to use a condom made of hemp? Maybe.
00:56:26
Speaker
It's the... yikes first of all like that sounds terrible um ah like the the toilet paper at work tears me to pieces i can't even imagine something like that condom made of hemp um yeah there's a couple of lines here that i skipped over um the mean girl ashley says to her you look kind of like an older sluttier version of the kind of girl we would like um And then she says, try Zeta. Their last house mother was hospitalized with hallucinations.
00:57:06
Speaker
Oh my god. um Oh, she does the iconic name remembering trick, which was everyone's favorite quote in the early 2000s, where she goes, she's going around meeting everyone, and Emma Stone's like, and this is Stephanie, and she goes, Stephanie!
00:57:26
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And Joanne, Joanne! Which is apparently something that she did on set, and ah the actors were not aware that she was going to do. so oh love that for her yeah oh it's my favorite part of the movie she's like it's how i remember names by saying them in this monster voice
00:57:47
Speaker
um yeah uh also she yeah when she moves in she takes a shower and then she's just walking through the hall like uh topless and then emma's like i think some of these girls haven't even seen their own bodies naked so
00:58:02
Speaker
My favorite is what she says afterwards, which is, I'm just trying I'm just living with the body that God and Dr. So-and-so gave me. Yeah, exactly. There's some real great quotable lines in this movie.
00:58:15
Speaker
um um Yeah, it's very much like, um yeah, there's a lot of one-liners in this and a lot of like just stuff that she does. Like the script, other than that, is is hard to like single out as anything special. But yeah, there's some definite, um there's some lines that are that are great. Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker
Yeah. um Like when they go to the club and Carrie Ann keeps telling the boys she needs to go to the crapper to drop off some timber. And then she gets corrected and she's just like, no, don't don't say it like that. You need to be more aloof.
00:58:50
Speaker
And so she changes it to being like, hey, I'm going to go do something very mysterious in the crapper. Yeah. yeah it's not drop off some timber dropping off some timber is uh insane that's an insane thing to say i love it um the crapper also oh yeah so they go to a club um they go um to do karaoke the mean sorority
00:59:24
Speaker
hacks the karaoke machine to type the wrong words for like a virgin possible i don't i don't think it is um where it says like a loser um yeah like a big bag of poop or something and katherine mcphee just very excitedly like sings it all without any problem yep because we have to have katherine mcphee sing obviously one of two times american idol yeah yeah well we'll get to the second time later who boy um
00:59:55
Speaker
one of Another one of my favorite bits where they're like, we're losers. And she goes, no, you're not losers. Ignore that dumb old wall. And the camera moves out of the painted loser on an interior wall of their house.
01:00:08
Speaker
That's very funny to me. ah So good. Kat Dennings had a clitoris piercing, apparently. Yep. Also, yikes.
01:00:20
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um yeah she she changes them all i mean that's the thing that's the yeah it's a classic uh trope of this kind of movie where like you know this person comes in and changes these people all to be like mirror images of them and it's like oh that's amazing all seven members of this uh sorority were all super hot and just like not so convenient not uh not utilizing their their their bodies well or something and they're all super skinny and Yep.
01:00:46
Speaker
And can wear super micro teeny tiny little skirts. Yeah. And blown out hair and lots of makeup. Goodness gracious me.
01:00:57
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um ah And they all look horrifying. Honestly, like really scary to be fair. like Yeah.
01:01:06
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I think it's one of those things where it's like, I feel like the 2000s have become kind of like the 80s were. to the 2000s where it's like you look at that and you're like jesus you're like where the the style is so far removed that it's hard to find it attractive at all like it's hard to look at that and think that anybody would find that attractive or like the 70s i guess was probably a better example than the i don't seem to have that problem with the two thousand s Really? Yeah.
01:01:38
Speaker
It's the makeup and hair more than anything. Like, I understand, like, you know, skimpy clothes are yeah attractive, like, to to men. ah But, like, yeah, the makeup and hair is really off-putting for me. I still love a smoky eye.
01:01:54
Speaker
The colored streaks, the the big, like, glitter, like, eyeshadow. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. go go listen and Listen, listen, listen. Like, I... It's...
01:02:06
Speaker
I don't know. I feel like Emma Stone specifically, it's just like, and maybe it's just because she's so famous and because we know what she's supposed to look like. Yeah. She just, it everything looks like it's the wrong color for her. So I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
01:02:19
Speaker
Which it probably was. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was still the early 2000s, but I mean, I thought they looked great. Oh God. I think they look terrifying.
01:02:32
Speaker
Oh man. um ah Oh, Anna Faris goes on a date with... um His name's Christopher? His name is Colin Hanks.
01:02:44
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No, Oliver. His name's Oliver. His character's name. His character's name's Oliver. i know what you meant. She goes on a date and she like pulls all of her usual tricks and it doesn't work on Oliver because he's not that kind guy.
01:02:58
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He's not a play... He doesn't live in the Playboy Mansion. Yeah, and if you keep mentioning your butt, he's not going to care. Yeah. um It's, it's really cringe. And then she's like, i have another date at 11. And he's like, you have another date at 11. We'll have fun and walks out on her, which is the appropriate thing to do, honestly. Yeah, exactly.
01:03:17
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um She also asks for the mahi mahi, but she only wants one mahi because she's not that hungry. That's so funny. That's such a great joke. Like, good job.
01:03:29
Speaker
Good job, ladies. Great job. Good job. um ah Then we go back to meet ah the ah the Nazi and the evil Playboy Bunny, Cassandra, who we met in the first scene, but we forgot about.
01:03:42
Speaker
yeah And it turns out that um Hugh Hefner comes back with his girlfriends and they're like, where's Shelley? Let's have a movie night with Shelley. I missed Shelley so much. And Marvin's like, oh, she left. She decided to to... go To Peru.
01:03:57
Speaker
No, that's what she tells Oliver. It's Africa? something like Something like that. And apparently the Nazi has been manipulated by using nipple play um from Cassandra.
01:04:12
Speaker
And she blackmailed him into doing this, basically. um Because she wanted rid of her because she wanted to be Miss November or something. yeah she wanted less comp She wanted less competition.
01:04:27
Speaker
basic grief nonsense Yeah. And of course Hugh Hefner is depicted as a sweet old man who would never kick someone out for being, for turning 27. He would never.
01:04:38
Speaker
He gets so sad and he's like eating a bunch of ice cream. It's, it's disgusting, honestly. Yeah. like i hate him Yeah. yeah Let's take the fricking playboy mansion out of this.
01:04:51
Speaker
Yeah. um Well, I know, I mean, it's a thing, like, it's it's a necessary part. Like, it is, that is the culture that this movie was made in. Like, and it's a real thing. It's kind of like, it's a much more toxic version of Josie and the Pussycats, where, like, if you try to watch Josie and the Pussycats now, like,
01:05:08
Speaker
what world is just this movie take place in you know like this the cultural context of that is everything and like without trl like i have a friend hygiea who didn't know what trl was yeah when i was talking to her about it because she's a baby yeah because she's a she's a child um she's not when we made charlie watch josey and the pussycats he did not understand at all Did they not? I mean, and Dec is pretty similar to ah TRL, right? But it's so TRL specific.
01:05:41
Speaker
Carson Daly makes an appearance. ah Carson Daly does make an appearance. um We'll have to talk about Josie and the Pussycats at some point. um A masterpiece of a movie. Of one of my favorite films.
01:05:53
Speaker
Fucking love Josie and the Pussycats. So fucking good. again, it is like it was such a specific point in time. is like It's like watching drama movie. drama from the 50s or something like it's it's without that that world that it exists in like it's it's it's meaningless i mean i guess they still have newspapers now of course but it's you know it's not the same thing um they find out that natalie emma stone is a virgin so they have to have an aztec party to sacrifice her to sacrifice her so she can go get laid which is like
01:06:29
Speaker
I mean, I guess she's, is she a freshman and the president of this sorority? Like, how old is she supposed to be? She's gotta be. She can't be a freshman. I think she's supposed to be like a junior. Yeah. Cause she, the actress is 19 and it is, it doesn't say, I don't think it's supposed to be their last year. So maybe she was supposed to be a junior, but like, yeah, she seems pretty okay with everybody knowing she's a virgin. and I mean, which is good. Like, yeah.
01:06:52
Speaker
don't have to be ashamed about being being a virgin but it especially in this like toxic culture that we've been talking about it is it is a little odd that no one literally no one shames her for being a virgin at all which is you know yeah good yeah for for yes for this yes good yeah um uh And then, of course, Rumor Willis like says that she could have taken the brace off four four years ago.
01:07:19
Speaker
yeah so they do a Forrest Gump parody where she's running after this boy and it all falls yeah off, like his leg braces. And her boobs are just so perky and perfect. mrs
01:07:32
Speaker
This is what Otto Ferris says. When I was little, I wore Scooby-Doo mask to school for a month. And she found out she had it on upside down.
01:07:44
Speaker
I love her so much. That's funny. The thing is that she is a weirdo just like them. Yeah. Which is, i mean, I guess it's obvious and and trite, but like everything else about this movie doesn't, it doesn't seem like it's going to have even that amount of depth. So it's very refreshing when you when you see that that's that's really what they're going for.
01:08:07
Speaker
This is a very sweet movie, much like Legally Blonde. Yes. ella enchanted and and to a lesser extent 10 things i hate about you i guess 10 things i hate about you is their most cynical i mean i haven't seen the ugly truth so the ugly truth is pretty cynical yeah i would imagine so yeah um and like she has found a a family as well like ah that's what this is about it's about found family yeah And then Beverly D'Angelo shows up in one of two scenes that she's in to be the villain house mother for ah Phi Iota Mu, which I kept trying to figure out if that was some kind of like pun or something, because like it would be like FIM, I guess, which isn't like, I guess like P-H-I-M instead of like F-E-M, like FEM, like supposed to be like super, I don't know. It doesn't matter. think I think you're you're looking way too much into it. probably reading too much into it.
01:09:04
Speaker
Um... Yes, and tells you know her that we're going to we're gonna get get you kicked out because the Zetas don't deserve to have a yeah ah charter. Yeah, and they want the house.
01:09:15
Speaker
Yeah. And so then they have the Aztec party, and all the girls are suddenly become popular, and everyone likes them because it's a cool party. Yeah. And again, you just had to throw money at the situation. like Exactly. Exactly.
01:09:29
Speaker
They were already hot. You just had to go to Sephora and the prop warehouse or whatever yep and have a cool party.
01:09:42
Speaker
um She goes on a date with Colin Hanks. she triedes She's dressed like Marilyn Monroe in The Seven Year Itch. She tries to stand in front of a manhole and she's like, oh god, it's so fucking hot. Who knew steam was hot?
01:09:55
Speaker
Burns her legs pretty badly and then she says, well, why didn't that happen to Marilyn Monroe? And I'm like, well it's because it was a subway grate and not a manhole in the seven-year age
01:10:08
Speaker
yes we've already been over the date though we have we have i'm sorry i was just going yeah that's okay she goes back to the story he goes he didn't he didn't fall for any of my tricks yes and they're like well you know maybe you shouldn't have tricks.
01:10:26
Speaker
And then they go through like a montage of her where they're like, well, maybe we need to make you a different person too. They still haven't learned their lesson. No. So she overcorrects them and then they overcorrect her where they turn her into like, um, a nerd, I guess. And she's like, and you can't even see my boobs.
01:10:47
Speaker
um ah You can't even tell I have boobs. That's what she says. Yeah. And she does a lot of research about current events and she finally says philanthropy, right? Yeah. And they may they make her wear Emma Stone's glasses so she can't see.
01:11:02
Speaker
and it makes no sense. She falls everywhere. She falls everywhere. She ruins the date again. Yes. But she has little index cards, which I think Colin Hanks thinks is very charming um when he sees the index cards because she's like really trying. Colin Hanks has very little character in this movie. he He's just there for the eye candy. Yeah.
01:11:27
Speaker
um to give on a ferris a love interest um and but like it seems to work because like he's into it well i think that the idea that the movie is going for is that that also doesn't work because that's also not her and she needs to just be herself and not trying to to manipulate him which is what we eventually land on but um yeah so then land The Nazi um refuses to be manipulated by Cassandra anymore because he, and he has pasties, so she can't nipple play him.
01:12:03
Speaker
um And he tells Hugh Hefner the truth and Hugh Hefner calls Shelly and is like, come back to the mansion. I want you to be the centerfold. And she turns him down because she has her new family. family Meanwhile, the girls are going through their pledges and they've become shallow.
01:12:22
Speaker
Yep. Um, elitist girls just like the other sorority and then they realize it and they're like oh we can't do this purse and then Lily the shy girl calls them out on it and she actually talks yeah in a British accent yeah and she's British and um that's when Shelly comes back and they yell at her or specifically mostly Kat Dennings does and it's like you turned us into this and this is not who we are and she's like okay well I'll leave um and she calls you after back and she's like okay fine i don't have a family i'll come back with you yeah she's not happy she goes back and she's not happy she's so miserable and she's upset the bottom of the swimming pool yeah even though she's getting what she wanted what she thought she wanted um and she lies to oliver a third time yeah she writes him a letter saying she's joining the peace corps and going to peru
01:13:23
Speaker
um and then the girls are are getting ready for something and they're like we need to dial it back a bit we need to be like half shelly and half who we really are yes that's the lesson we need to take from this be like ourselves but just slut it up a little bit yes make it a little sluttier have a little bit more confidence it's themselves with confidence because that's what shelly is she's their confidence that's true that is a very that is the um optimistic way of looking at it yes exactly that's what they want you to take away from from this yeah and they miss her and then the all-american rejects guy still likes um emma stone even though she comes off as dorky to him and he's dorky too it's very cute and then they don't know how to kiss yeah they both kiss awkwardly it's great yeah
01:14:16
Speaker
And um so then they get a bunch of pledges and they need to mail the bids and they send Lily to the post office to mail the bids but then the the the Pims are there to distract her with a boy and throw the the bids away so they get no pledges and then they go get Shelly from the photo shoot guess they knew where it was.
01:14:47
Speaker
Yeah. But like, she's also about to like leave because she's so unhappy. And so they both sort of like meet together. They're at the photo shoot to like apologize. And she's going to leave to go like apologize as well.
01:14:59
Speaker
And so they just, they meet in the middle and then Shelly has to save the day because they're going to lose their house and their charter because they couldn't get any pledges. they have to go to the Pan-Hellenic Council meeting where Christopher McDonald is the Dean.
01:15:14
Speaker
Yep. um And um Beverly D'Angelo is on the board as well. And so they're the like the two adults moderating.
01:15:24
Speaker
And um they have to get some new pledges. And so um he asks everyone like if there's anyone that'll pledge and they everybody looks around and people start volunteering to pledge.
01:15:38
Speaker
Well, Shelly gives a speech first. Oh, yeah. Shelly gives a speech. she has to She keeps saying that she's allergic to erythromycin, which I have to point out is an antibiotic and you don't take for colds.
01:15:51
Speaker
But basically she's saying that like she used to prioritize beauty over her health and that erythromycin would make her itchy and sick, but make her skin glow and made her feel pretty for the first time when she was a weird, awkward kid.
01:16:08
Speaker
And so she would take it even though it wasn't good for her because of the competence and um it gave her. So and then she talks about how that's bad and that how this sorority is, you know, they're they're trying to do something beyond that. And they're like, yeah you know, we're going to take, we're going to take whoever pledges, right? And that's the, that'll do that first, actually, where they're like, we're going to draw 30 random names from the pledge bowl and every bit one of those people will get a bid. We're not going to, we're not going to debate on who gets stuff.
01:16:40
Speaker
Which is a mistake because you're going to get some you're goingnna get some toxic people that way, but they'll learn that. But it's a very nice gesture. Yes.
01:16:53
Speaker
But yeah, Shelly gives her speech. yeah And then um and then ah they ask for um if anybody's going to pledge out to this open room. And people start volunteering. And they get to 29.
01:17:08
Speaker
They get to 29 and then crickets. And then Catherine McPhee is wheeled in by some EMTs holding her newborn baby. what a gurney with the baby. And she's like, one more pledge. And the dean is like. don't think we can accept a newborn baby.
01:17:26
Speaker
No, no babies, only students.
01:17:32
Speaker
Beverly D'Angelo is like, bang the gavel, it's over. yeah but then Courtney, Ashley's friend in the evil sorority, decides that she's fed up with Ashley, and who got tit-punched by her earlier, we should say, yeahp um decides that she's going to join Zetas and be their 30th pledge.
01:17:52
Speaker
yeah and so they did it they saved their house which i don't think she signed up for a rush so i don't think her pledge would be legal in fact most of those girls are probably already pledged byorney so like you know anyway that's irrelevant irrelevant katie uh and then uh beverly d'angelo tit punches ashley and that's the last yeah we see of them um uh And then there's Oliver.
01:18:16
Speaker
and Natalie calls Oliver. And they're like, nice to meet you again. and he's like, I'm Oliver. And she goes, Oliver. Oliver.
01:18:27
Speaker
And and
01:18:31
Speaker
And then a letter to Hefner. i am Because we have to, I suppose. We have to wrap it up. Yeah. And then the most... the most hard to watch thing in this whole movie it is a cover of i know what boys like by the waitresses yep sung by katherine mcphee emma stone uh rumor willis and pat dennings really yeah singing and my god rapping yep and like i know that they're all young yeah
01:19:07
Speaker
This has to be the most embarrassing thing Emma Stone can look back on in her career, right? Like, poor Emma Stone. ah Probably, because she's real loud. Like, you can tell Emma Stone is, like, scream rapping.
01:19:23
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Original Movie Title and Fun Facts
01:19:25
Speaker
um it's very It's very uncomfortable. um it's It's pretty bad. She says, like, boom, whop, bow or something like that. Yep. yeah Yeah, she does. They're all dancing and rapping. And ah it's it's a cover of I Know What Boys Like because that was the original title of this movie.
01:19:41
Speaker
Oh, I know what boys like. Oh, that's a fun fact. That's a Katie's fun facts. Katie's fun facts. Katie's fun facts. Oh.
Charlie's Corner: Anna Faris and Jennifer Coolidge
01:19:54
Speaker
Oh, I almost forgot. i have a Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. I, governor.
01:20:05
Speaker
um He said, Anna Faris in this is what I imagine jen Jennifer Coolidge was in her 20s. ah Maybe. Yeah.
01:20:18
Speaker
um Was Jennifer Coolidge in stuff in her 20s? She probably was. Was she? actually don't think she was. Maybe not.
01:20:30
Speaker
She was born in 1961. So let's see. What did she do in the eighty s
01:20:39
Speaker
Oh, no,
Jennifer Coolidge's Early Roles
01:20:40
Speaker
yeah. Her first role was in an episode of Seinfeld in the 90s. Hmm. Yeah. There you go.
Reflection on 'The House Bunny'
01:20:50
Speaker
Now I have I Know What Boys Like stuck in my head.
01:20:53
Speaker
It's a good song. Yeah. I know what boys like. It's about manipulating men. Yeah. Exactly. Which is what this movie is not about.
01:21:05
Speaker
Sort of. Ha ha ha!
01:21:09
Speaker
um But that's pretty much the movie. That's the house bunny. A complicated, problematic, ah still a fun time. Fun time. Very emblematic of its era, which is actually a long time ago, even though it doesn't seem like it.
01:21:27
Speaker
You know, 17 years ago is a long time. and Someone born in 2008 graduated high school this year. So, you know. I hate that.
01:21:40
Speaker
I hate that. Yeah. I always got to give subtext on it. I mean, I always got to give a perspective on ah on the years things came out. Not a fan.
01:21:51
Speaker
Not a fan.
Introduction to Next Movie: 'Ever After'
01:21:53
Speaker
ye So Emma, what are we doing next time? Yes. Next week. Next week we are doing a movie.
01:22:03
Speaker
we'll do Ever After. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorites. i'm Drew Barrymore. Haven't done a Drew Barrymore in a while. Yeah.
01:22:13
Speaker
That's true. Not since Never Been Kissed, which obviously everybody loved.
01:22:22
Speaker
was not Bad for bad people. Never Been Kissed. Yeah. yeah um Was that before or after? Because we did. um She's in ah The Wedding Singer, too. Whichever one of those was more recent. Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah.
01:22:33
Speaker
I just always remember Never Been Kissed. Yeah. um All right. Should we outro? Let's do it, baby.
Podcast Outro
01:22:43
Speaker
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01:23:00
Speaker
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01:23:13
Speaker
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