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Ever After
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Forget glass slippers—Danielle brings books, swords, and a backbone. This week Emma and Katie discuss Ever After: the Cinderella retelling where Drew Barrymore rescues the prince, Angelica Huston steals every scene, and Leonardo da Vinci shows up as your iconic Fairy Godmother. Come for the jaw dropping costumes, stay for the historic inaccuracies.
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Health Chat: Snacks, Drinks, and UTIs
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how are you, Katie? I'm fine. I'm surviving. I got some peanut butter M&Ms and a bottle full of water. I love that. I have a Celsius.
00:00:12
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Oh, dear. It's my substitute for the Panera drink that kills people. The liquid cocaine. Yeah. I understand that, but I also have UTI.
00:00:28
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What if you got a cranberry Celsius? um Well, I've got AZO. Well, I also don't think that like, like a bunch of caffeine is is probably the best. Like, I don't think those things are.
00:00:40
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But if I need to pee more. It's not good. know. They tell you not to drink soda or energy drinks, so. Oh, yeah. What? But this has vitamins in it.
00:00:51
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That was an unsolicited ad for Celsius. Celsius. Do you know I'm a monster girl? like oh I didn't know that. I'm so sorry. I'm a Celsius girl. um Yeah. Celsius.
00:01:05
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Yeah, well, I've been drinking too much soda, which is one way to get a UTI, so we'll see. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. That and not peeing after sex. Well, it's not that, I can pretty'll tell you. It's my number one rule.
Media Blackout and Mental Health
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Well, it's a good rule to have. It's a good rule to have. Always pee after sex. I guess we're keeping this in the show. Don't know why I waited to tell you that bit of news until after we started recording.
00:01:30
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Until after we started recording. Who cares? I also hear that um Chicago, it's been in the news a lot lately. How you doing? You know, here's the thing, like, because I deleted all my social media, which I think we've mentioned on this podcast before, and I haven't been spending any time on it.
00:01:48
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And I'm kind of on media blackout. And so people will tell me, hey, did you hear about this? I'm like, no, I didn't hear about it. It's been great not hearing about it. Because like, I'm not that like- Well, reality not great. I know, but I'm not saying we can ignore the news, but like there's
Trump Conspiracy Theories
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a certain level of where it's affecting your mental health, where it's like, i There's nothing for me there.
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You know what mean? Yeah. Like I have, I think a good amount of empathy for people who are going through terrible times and i you know, will, will do my best to, to, to help if I can, but like, and, you know, be aware of you know major world events and stuff, but like the constant deluge of the horrible things happening in this country. um i just, I,
00:02:32
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um i'm exhausted of it yeah and i don't have um it just that's yeah well it will it will uh drive me into the dirt and i can't yeah i can't handle it so um but yeah so i am i am aware of his threats against uh chicago did something new happen oh he said he's doing it he's sending the national guard as of when though because like a few days ago he said he was doing it and then i think he backed down Um, I thought that I saw it. Well, cause like the only reason why I know this is because I somehow ended up on conspiracy talk.
00:03:04
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Oh no, Emma. But like leftist conspiracy talk. one of the worst talks. I know. A leftist conspiracy talk? Yeah. So Under the Desk News got me there, um which is like wonderful. And we know that's reputable
Podcast and Movie Discussion
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news. And so i was just like, cool. Okay.
00:03:23
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You know? Because they used to work for, I want to say like CNN or some notable news. I have no idea what it is, but I believe you. Oh, okay. um But they were saying that, like, um because of, like, all the pictures, ah there was, like, fishy stuff going on with the pictures and stuff they were sending out of that orange demon.
00:03:46
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oh Oh, yeah. I mean, I heard that that people thought he might be dead, which was like, you know, just the greatest news in the world. Like, that is, that's, like, we're all going to call out of work and dance in the streets, right? That's what's coming up then?
00:03:57
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, like, part of me, like, I was just like, okay, Emma, don't get your hopes up. Don't get your hopes up. But, like, i ended up on, like, the everyone thinks he's dead talk. um And I was just, like, started to think, like, oh, my God.
00:04:10
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my God. Maybe it's true. And at one point the other night, I was just, like, in my soul, I was like, he's dead. He's dead. It's all fine. i don't have to constantly have an escape plan.
00:04:24
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It's okay. Him dying is not going to fix everything. But I think that the people who are underplaying it, where it'll mean it means nothing when he dies, are also wrong. I think that it means a great deal ah for when he dies. Because the other people, and we're not going to name them by name just first yes for the other legality. the other people um don't have the cult of personality that he has.
00:04:49
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And I think that they're also dangerous and they're also evil and they also have a great deal of power. They don't have the cult that he has. Yeah. um So it will be different when he dies, no matter what.
00:05:02
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yeah Like what happened when Charles Manson went to jail?
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Well, the thing about that is that those girls that he brainwashed all went to jail too. That's true. But like, if you think about it, like I need to do some deep dives on cult leaders and
Feminist Themes in 'Ever After'
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like what happens after they fall to sort of like really understand where our history is going.
00:05:25
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A lot of them, a lot of them get better. um yeah But, you know, we're not, we're talking, we're not talking about like. The Jonestown people didn't. When we're talking about, well, no. jesus five minutes in um into this delightful um uh light uh airy movie and we are into this um and into into jones town um yeah But like, that that's not, i mean, what it's hard to say. It's more like, it's it's it's it's we're we're talking more about like when the Nazi regime fell than like a cult because it's such on such a scale, you know? Yeah, like that's true. um
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It's going to be, you know, I mean, who knows? Who knows what will happen? I would like to think that some of these people will get like um ah tried for war crimes, but. Oh, yeah.
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Who
Film Craftsmanship in 'Ever After'
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knows? Yeah. Yeah. But like, do we have a summit that'll do that? i mean, send him to the the Hague. Yeah. Hague. Hague.
00:06:31
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That's a harsh word. Hague. Hague. Hague. and or Scottish i right I'm a loopy loopy loopy I realized today that the film that we are doing is one you can tell when the news cycle and like Emma's life is like a downward spiral of like chaos because I constantly I've just been doing comfort movies as my oh yeah yeah that's what I've been doing
Podcast Wrap-Up and Teaser
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for since 2016 really
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We didn't start this pod in 2016. I know, but I've been watching comfort movies since 2016. Oh, nice. Yeah. um Because as we were putting this on, like, um by the way, ah let me just introduce us and then I'll tell you about the little story about watching this film.
00:07:21
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Sure. ah That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie... yeah They just really, their dad dies and their dad was their best friend. They're orphaned. And they have this really bitchy stepmom who's also Angelica Houston, who's fabulous and like the goat of all fabulous bitchiness. um And their sisters, Melanie Loninski and then other bitchy blonde chick.
00:07:47
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And, um, they are just really smart, too smart for their own good. And they run into a prince and, um, they have to pretend to be royalty to like get our nobility to like get their BFF servant dude out from being sold because their stepmom's a bitch.
00:08:07
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And, uh, I know, I know. pull out pull out pull out anyways um yeah so we run into a prince and we have to pretend that we're fancy and he falls in love with us we fall in love with him but then oh my god it turns out he finds out that we're poor in the most fabulous dresses and um he chooses us anyways because our fairy godmother is leonardo da vinci that's right guys i'm emma and i'm katie and that was the whole movie um
00:08:38
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And that was Ever After. are we watching next week, Emma? Good lord. Ever After. I know this movie like the back of my hand.
00:08:51
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I fucking in love this movie so hard. um So much so, I was so excited to show it to Charlie. um And one of the reasons that I pick many of these movies is that I desperately want to force Charlie to watch it.
00:09:06
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um forcing your partner to watch something is a is a time-honored tradition in all relationships exactly and as we've learned it's like it's like well well yeah um but it's it's the it's like the old uh the old meme you know um you know me forcing my partner to watch something uh haha this fucking rules while having to watch something my partner forces me to watch you know this fucking sucks right um right um And Charlie's parents are here visiting.
00:09:37
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um They are, they live in Malta. And so they are here for two weeks. And so um I was like, before they arrived, I was like, Charlie, do you want to watch this movie before your parents get here or when your parents are here?
00:09:49
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And he went, um well, do you think they'll like it And i was like, I think your mom would like it. Don't know about your dad, but I think your mom would like it. um The way that things happened last night in the,
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like domino effect of events. It ended up being just his dad and I watching most of the film.
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Yeah. um Which was great because he was asking questions. He knew sure who the act the actor who plays the king is was Danny Dyer's dad on EastEnders. Sure.
00:10:23
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And ah what is Charlie's dad's name? ah Andrew. Oh, man. I was hoping it was going to be more British than that. yeah and we're going to get a Nigel or No.
00:10:37
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No. But I did get woken up this morning because someone accidentally locked everyone out of the bathroom and I had to crawl through the bathroom window to unlock the door. ah Oh my god. That was this morning.
00:10:49
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um It's always an event. um But yeah, so ended up being just his dad and I watching most of the movie. Charlie was on his phone for like seven-eighths of this and I was like, Charlie, pay attention. He like, I haven't been watching any this.
00:11:02
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And I was like, oh my God, my dude, my dude. Um, get into the lunchbox policy. Phone goes in the lunchbox while we're watching a movie. Yeah, I know. From now on, every single go get your girl film, lunchbox policy.
00:11:16
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Cause I'm tired of looking over and going, uh, put that phone down, sir. Yeah. What do you think you're doing? I'm not paying you to be on your phone. Exactly. Exactly. Like, I love this movie so much that back in the 2000s, when AIM was a thing, you could specialize, you could illegally download movie clips of lines and use them as if someone was entering the chat room or leaving the chat room and you were logging on.
00:11:46
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I did that with an ever after quote, which is the one when she's on the rocks and he goes, you, you do something. You, um, you don't have servants. You do. Is there anything you don't do? And she goes, fly.
00:11:59
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That was an aim sound for me. That's how much I fucking love this movie. Wow. I don't, I don't think I had any custom aim sounds. Oh, I had that. And then I also had the mummy.
00:12:11
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Sure. Yeah. Like you do. Was it, hey, Benny looks like someone's on the wrong side of the river every time somebody came in It was that, I'm a librarian!
00:12:22
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I'm a librarian is good. And it's also going to be like super compressed and like play through computer speakers from the 2000s. So it's like, I'm a librarian! I'm a librarian! And it like, it always takes so long because there's always like a delay at the beginning. And God, I don't know why. i just...
00:12:40
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I thought I was cool. Anyways, what's your history with this movie, Katie? um I am ah reason i'm almost definitely sure I saw this in theaters. um ah It seems like it's very Katie core.
00:12:53
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yeah um i I love this movie. Yeah. um it's It's great. I've seen it. I've seen it a million times. I watched it on a plane one time, I remember. I don't remember where I was going, but I remember it was available. was like, well, hell yeah, i'm go to watch Ever After on the plane. Yeah.
00:13:08
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Yeah. um It's a great comfort film. It is. I probably watch it every couple of years. I feel like it hasn't been that long since I watched it last um does it before I watched it this morning. Yeah, because it's fantastic.
00:13:20
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It is. Yeah. And one of the most amazing things about this movie is um the freaking costumes. Let's like give some snaps to the costumer.
00:13:30
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Like the costumes in this movie are their own character. They are so amazing. So good that I drool every time i see her gown at the ball.
00:13:42
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i I nearly lose my mind when I see every single one of her fancy dresses. uh jenny beaven or jenny bavin b-e-a-v-a-n probably beaven get it jenny is a uh is a british costume designer she has three oscars four baftis two emmys and an olivier yes she does um and a tony wow oh she's what I won't hold on.
00:14:12
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She's she if she if she somehow gets a Grammy. Costumes are hard to get a Grammy for. I mean, is this? I don't think there's a Grammy for costumes. There's no Grammy. It's going difficult for her to. I mean, can you substitute? She's got three of them.
00:14:25
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Can you substitute an MTV movie award? For a Grammy? Probably. That's the only one you could, though. You not for a Tony and Oscar and Emmy, but a Grammy is pretty worthless. so Or a video music award, a VMA.
00:14:37
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Oh, a VMA, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah um Let's see here. Academy Awards. She won for Mad Max Fury Road. Hell yeah. Oh, hell yeah. A Room with a View and Cruella.
00:14:50
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ah the costumes in Cruella? Wow. Five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. She's been nominated for twelve Oscars and won three. i mean, she's fucking great.
00:15:01
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Yeah. She won BAFTAs for the exact same three movies and then also for Gosford Park. Oh, amazing. um She won an Emmy for a television version of Emma starring Kate Beckinsale.
00:15:15
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Oh. Looks like from the 90s, yeah. Nice. And then also for Cranford. Yep. British costume drama. Costume drama, yeah. ah the The Olivier and Tony are both from Private Lives, the Noel Coward play.
00:15:32
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Oh, nice. So she loves the costume drama. Clearly. I mean, here's the thing. Like, it's so rare for anyone to get and they even nominated for an Oscar for contemporary costumes. um So almost all costume Oscars are going to go to ah period or like fantasy movies.
00:15:51
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yeah Unfortunately. Yeah. There's just a lot more creativity and a lot more, you know. just room to play and off your Yeah, but there's still some like, there's some, what movie were we on here? We were talking recently about, there was some contemporary movie that were like, the costumes in this were amazing. They should have been nominated for an Oscar. i don't remember what it was.
00:16:09
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Silver Linings.
00:16:13
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I don't, I don't know. I don't think that was it. No, I don't think that was it. Was it 500 Days of Summer? No, it was old. It was longer ago than that. I don't remember. But yeah, of her 12 Oscars,
00:16:26
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all of them are period or 12 Oscar nominations. All of them are period movies. And then Mad Max, which is a, which is a movie of a kind. Yeah. yeah Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's period of the future in Australia.
00:16:40
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um That is true. That is true. Boy, oh boy. Amazing. Who directed this movie? ah Yes, so this movie is is's Ever After. It is from 1998. It is directed by Andy Tennant, who we have done a movie of his before.
00:16:57
Speaker
Really? Because he directed Hitch. Really? Yeah. Shut up. He directed a Hitch and Sweet Home Alabama and another movie we're definitely going to do on this podcast, It Takes Two.
00:17:13
Speaker
Yes. Fuck yeah. Because that is a rom-com. Yeah. it's kirstie alley uh rompon and the olsen twins um it is written by suzanna grant uh and andy tennant um and it is uh suzanna grant wrote aaron brokovich she wrote in her shoes uh 28 days and pocahontas the animated movie yeah the animated movie And then she also she also created and wrote and showrun the Netflix miniseries Unbelievable from a few years ago, ah which is ah very upsetting um like true crime docudrama. Yes. It's so good. Yeah.
00:17:58
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Yeah. It's so good, but it's rough. Yeah, so she's still around um yeah doing stuff. um Yeah, so this in France, where... we start off yeah that the mid nineteenth century in france where An anonymous French woman played by Jeanne Moreau, who is from Jules and Jim and Elevator to the Gallows, a very classic French nouvelle vague actor who's in a ton of movies and in the and 50s.
00:18:35
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Or like 60s and 70s, I guess. and And now she's old. And she's talking to the Brothers Grimm about Cinderella. And she says, i didn't care for your depiction of the the story of Cinderella.
00:18:49
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um And then they have kind of this conversation where they're like, well, you know, Charles Perrault. And so so Charles Perrault is the one who's credited with like writing down the folktale of Cinderella originally, who predates the Brothers Grimm by like 200 years or so And um so the the version of Cinderella that most people know is the is the Perot version. And the Brothers Grimm version is is much more violent, like most of them the Brothers Grimm stories.
00:19:15
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Yeah. They depict it in into the woods a little bit more. Like the literal chopping off of the stepsister's toes to like get them into the shoe. There's a lot more gore and blood. I mean, the Brothers Grimm. They're blinded as punishment. Yeah.
00:19:27
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Yeah. They were real. They really loved violence. Boy, oh boy. Yeah. Um, so yeah, Charles Perrault is, is pretty much the inventor of the fairy tale. He was the first person, ah to like get a bunch of these old stories and legends and kind of write them down and publish them. And he's also credited with inventing the phrase once upon a time.
00:19:52
Speaker
Really? Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah. um So ah that is So yeah she says So they start arguing and saying Well you the Perot version is like this And she goes well let me tell you the the real story Because here's the glass slipper And she shows it to them And she shows this painting of Drew Barrymore And she she's like I'll tell you the true story And they're like it's true And she's like hell yeah it's true bitch so Hell yeah ah Sit down stay a while Let me just tell you a little tale um How do you bitches say it
00:20:23
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Uh, once upon a time. exactly Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:29
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Um, which brings me to the first of Emma's fun facts, Emma's fun facts. Um, so the portrait of Drew Barrymore, it may look suspiciously like an actual Leonardo da Vinci picture painting.
00:20:43
Speaker
Um, because it is, it does. Uh, Danielle's portrait, which Leonardo da Vinci paints in the film is originally modeled after another da Vinci work called La Scappia Galetta. La scapigliata.
00:20:55
Speaker
La scapigliata. La scapigliata. i I don't know what it's called. I'm just repeating what you're saying. so
00:21:08
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um And then also at the start of the film, when the Grimm brothers talk to the Grand Dame about the many different versions of the Cinderella story, they mention in some versions that she wears fur slippers rather than glass.
00:21:18
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This refers to the but the first slippers. um In Charles Perrault's version of the story, it's the first to mention the glass slipper, which in French is pentouffe de verre.
00:21:29
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Some people believe it was a misinterpretation of pentouffe. De verre! Which, um, what is spelled B-E-R-R-E, the other is B-A-I-R, which, so one means glass slipper and one means fur slipper.
00:21:44
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French is a complicated language because a lot of words sound exactly the same. Yes. Instead of, uh, until you write them out. Um, yes.
00:21:57
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So, she starts telling the story and we're like, you know, 300 and some years in the past. but So now we're in the the very early 16th century. umm ah There's a little girl and her dad who has come back to the manor house where they live. And here's the thing. like We can hear this whole thing later where they're like, you're not of noble birth. But like she is.
00:22:19
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She is of noble birth. I don't think she's of Okay. So I had to explain this last night. So the way that I see it and the way that it's framed, because um the first of my notes on this is...
00:22:32
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Uh, oh, well, first off, I was asked by Charles' father, is there blood in it? If he, like, we were going to watch this movie and he was like, is there blood in it?
00:22:42
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And I was like, yes, there is blood. Is there blood? There is actually at the end. Because at the end he went, well, that's not a lot blood. Um... And ah this movie is my romantic origin story.
00:22:55
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um So what I believe, which it's never really explained because otherwise this movie would be like eight hours long. On his face. There's blood. yeah Yeah. Yeah. um and so the Baroness, I believe, which is Angelica Hudson uh houston she is um was mayor i believe she got that title from her previous husband that gave her her two daughters um marguerite and jacqueline jacqueline who's uh fucking love her melanie linenski love her um
00:23:36
Speaker
But ah I believe that that's how she got her from like the story she tells about her mother and how her mother like always wanted her to be something more than she is. It sounds like she wasn't born into nobility.
00:23:48
Speaker
She married into it. So she's a baroness by marriage. Then she's widowed. And then um i believe that Danielle's father is just a wealthy nobleman. Like I don't think that he's of like I don't think he has any titles. Well, just said nobleman.
00:24:08
Speaker
Sorry. But here's the thing. But is her mom, was her mom a comtesse or not? Because comtesse is just French for countess. Yeah. Which would mean, I mean, like, and what is a noble person except a landowner?
00:24:18
Speaker
Especially in medieval France. So, like, actually that's I think that it's... And he owns landowners. I think that the the loophole that maybe there's a deleted scene out there is that she's not actually a servant. They were just treating, they were using her as a servant because Angelica Houston hated her.
00:24:36
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. It's hard to say. they i mean, the movie doesn't say it, but it is. um Yeah. So it's kind of, i mean, did she, is is her, was her mother named Nicole de whatever? Craye.
00:24:50
Speaker
Deloncret or was she the Comtesse Deloncret? We don't know. We don't know. um she just make up the Comtesse part? However, every time she's dressed as an aristocrat or a noble lady, what all the servants are like, I feel like I'm looking at your mother.
00:25:06
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so That's true. that That leads us to believe that she dressed like that all the time. So maybe she was. Yeah. um I mean, it is her mother's dress. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:17
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Yeah. It's her dowry for her wedding. So, I mean, that's probably what happened. Yeah. And, like, the reason why they lose all their money is because Angelica Houston doesn't work the farm at all or, like, hire enough help to, ah like, do all the jobs.
00:25:37
Speaker
Well, she wastes all the money buying her daughter's yeah and clothes and jewelry and stuff. Yeah. yeah um yes so back in 15 16 or 17 supposedly because like i looked up when utopia came out um which is her father gives her a copy of sir thomas more's utopia which is a famous like science fiction allegory satire kind of uh story about that's where we get the term utopia about a you know para of Paradise City, utopian society.
00:26:07
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And it's about a lot of, like, it's a lot of, um I've never actually read it, but I've read, like, sections from it, from, like, history class and stuff. And it's a lot of, like, you know, this is the way things should be. And, like, the bit the bit that she talks about later on with um and prisoners and being born into um poverty and how poverty, you know, necessitates crime is directly from utopia.
00:26:28
Speaker
Yeah. So that was published in 1516. Wow. Which means that we're looking at the fifteen twenty s because it says it's 10 years later. So we don't know like how many years ago Utopia had been published by the time that she gets that copy of it.
00:26:43
Speaker
But it's at the very earliest 1516. And then so the very earliest it could be later is 1526, which means Leonardo da Vinci would have been dead for seven years. Yeah, that's another one of my fun facts is they sort of fudged the time. So that, I mean,
00:26:58
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Also, it means that Henry II of France would have been um ah seven years old. ah Don't ask any questions. Just take it at face value.
00:27:09
Speaker
Just take at face value. It's not that kind of movie. Yeah. Yeah. Also, Henry II was very famously married to Catherine de' Medici, perhaps, you know, the most famous queen of France until Marie Antoinette.
00:27:20
Speaker
The most famously not Danielle, Queen of France. Maybe Danielle got the plague or something. We don't know. Well, I mean, Henry died at like 40 also, so.
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah, which is, I mean, no offense to the actor that plays Henry, but boy, oh boy, does he does not look young. Do Grey Scott? i don't know how old he is. He looks like he's in his 30s in this movie. And I'm like, in medieval times, that would be dead.
00:27:48
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um ah yeah he's 33 in this movie and i mean um swashbuckling and hot but like yeah or maybe yeah yeah or maybe 32 um yeah probably 32 when they shot it and drew barrymore was 22 when they shot it woof which drew barrymore has said this is actually this is her favorite film that she has made That makes sense. Yeah.
00:28:13
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It's, um yeah, I'm sure it was super fun to make. So, ah yeah, 10 years later, oh yeah, her dad dies, obviously. Yeah, he's, yeah he doesn't make it out of the ah out of the ah the gate. he He has a heart attack or whatever and falls off his horse.
00:28:27
Speaker
And then when he's dying, he looks to Danielle and Angelica Houston, who he just married, is there and he doesn't look at her and looks at Danielle and says, I love you. And that's why Angelica Houston hates her.
00:28:38
Speaker
Yeah. Right? because it's what we're given to honor to believe because yeah he um and we think that she did love him like she says later like she kind of avoids the question but i think one thing this movie does really well is it doesn't like angelica houston is horrible she's very um cruel in this movie and you do hate her but it all there are also a couple of scenes of where it does like round her character a little bit where she's not like cartoonish villain who does cruelty for cruelty's sake like she has reasons to do the things she does and she considers herself the hero of the movie just like any good villain does yes exactly and angelica houston does a great job with the source material like she's yeah she's a great actress yeah those fucking layers like angelica houston goat love love her um ah and um yeah she's morticia adams come on
00:29:32
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. um And she just like really crushes it. But that's one thing that I really love about this movie overall is that it's not just a fairy tale.
00:29:43
Speaker
It's a fairy tale inspired story that feels real. Like it is. This is real. It's marketed as the true story of Cinderella. You know, that's yeah that's how.
00:29:54
Speaker
Both the marketing at the time and and the way that we are our frame story leads it in. Like, this is what really happened. There's no magic in this movie. Yeah. um Except for Leonardo da Vinci.
00:30:08
Speaker
Except for famously dead Leonardo da Vinci. um so um yeah we skipped forward 10 years and like you know she's super excited to meet her stepmother and her her new stepsisters at the beginning but like 10 years later like they've been nothing but cruel to her they've treated her like a real cinderella you get uh the shorthand there yeah
00:30:33
Speaker
she ah Danielle cares about the farm and about the servants there. um We first introduced to her... um Well, she's a little girl and she's playing with one of the like um servant boys.
00:30:45
Speaker
Yeah. Who stopped? Is he a servant boy or is he just like... He's either a servant boy or a townie. and Maybe a townie. Well, he's an apprentice to an artist.
00:30:57
Speaker
to an yeah And he has a nobleman. um That's how she gets her first aristocratic outfit is that she borrows it from ah patron his patron, who he was doing a portrait of as part of his apprenticeship.
00:31:12
Speaker
I was trying to find some period appropriate French artist named Gustav and I couldn't. Like the famous Gustav artists are all like hundreds of years later. So I thought they were going to, it was like, it was supposed be like Ben Johnson Shakespeare love of thing where it's like, he's also this famous artist, but I couldn't, I, he appears to be an original character.
00:31:32
Speaker
Oh. Um, ah so yes So she's like ah a tomboy grows up on a farm kind of thing. She's not a um traditional like noble lady, even though yeah I think that that we think that she probably is.
00:31:48
Speaker
Yes. um But she's basically she's a servant. Ten years later, they all have all turned turned made her be be a servant and the servants kind of accept her. um they're her family they're the only family that she's ever known that's true yeah like since her father died and then when her father even was alive the way that it's sort of like framed is that he's a merchant and so like he's constantly gone so she yeah her mom's dead she's being raised by mostly these three servants which are two housemaids and um one of their husbands who's like i don't want to say farm yeah they're the butler or whatever
00:32:23
Speaker
um But like they between the three of them, they do everything. And then Danielle joins their ranks because Papa dies. And um and so they are that daughters ain't going to do it. Yeah. Yeah. They they are her only family.
00:32:38
Speaker
However, one of them gets sold. Yes, she sold before the movie started. She sold Maurice, one of the servants, husbands yeah ah to somebody because, I mean, it's the 1500s. You can do that sort of thing.
00:32:53
Speaker
And um so the first time we see Danielle as an adult, she's out in the field and um Prince Henry has stolen their horse because he's escaped out the side of the castle castle because he doesn't want to marry the Spanish girl that his parents are trying to get him to marry.
00:33:09
Speaker
Yeah. He has rich boy problems. So um he stole her horse and he's like, I'll give it back. And she's throwing apples at him and screaming because she doesn't realize he's the he's the prince. And then she does and she apologizes and he's like,
00:33:22
Speaker
Um, I'll bring it back. I'm sorry. And she's like, take whatever you want, which sucks, but that's how Kings work, I guess. Um, yeah. Well, her first response is, I'm so sorry, your highness. Um, I did not know it was you. And he was like, well, you do now. And she goes, I know. And now for that, I must die.
00:33:39
Speaker
Yeah. yeah It's absurd. Um, uh, So he gives her 20 gold francs ah for her silence. So she doesn't tell anybody about him trying to escape the the kingdom because he doesn't want to be king.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah. um It's the opposite of Simba. He can't wait to king. just can't wait not to be king. Exactly. Exactly.
00:34:05
Speaker
Um, and he, so he gives her 20 gold francs and she's like, oh my God, I can use this to buy Maurice back from, yeah um slavery where Angelica Houston sold him. And, um, she tells the servants and they're like how are you going to do that? And she goes, I've got a plan. And so that's a whole other thing that happens where she dresses up as a noble woman to get Maurice back. They're on the bridge. and of course she runs into Henry again, uh,
00:34:34
Speaker
Doesn't really recognize her, but he's kind of like, you look familiar. Have we met before? Yeah. Yeah. um Which is crazy that he wouldn't recognize her. It's literally like the next day, right? Or is it just even hours later? It's hours later. Yeah.
00:34:47
Speaker
Because what happens in between is he rescues Leonardo da Vinci from some Roma people. Yeah. Some travelers. Who are bandits ah who have... stolen his painting and he begs the prince to go after it he says the painting is my life and so henry and this is henry save the cat moment except it's not a cat it's the mona lisa because of course it is he goes um sorry you said this was a um something between life and death and he like takes out the mona lisa and he goes a woman always is
00:35:23
Speaker
for god's sake leonardo um i do want to point out really quickly that the mona lisa is not painted on canvas it is on a uh piece a very small piece of wood yep yep anybody's ever been to the louvre that is another thing that they fubbed for this movie just let it go yeah doesn't matter this we're not going to turn this into kate and leopold yeah we're also you know ah did just ignore the fact that like every time a he unpols it i always think about the conspiracy about the mona lisa is just a self-portrait of him as a woman um yeah and i go wait are you saying that you're what is this but what who knows
00:36:08
Speaker
um ah So, yeah. So that's his Save the Cat moment. And, of course, yeah Drew Barrymore is having her own Save the Cat moment where she is rescuing Maurice. um So very 90s screenplay. Like, it's going to hit these moments exactly on the dot. I've never read Save the Cat because it's bullshit.
00:36:26
Speaker
But i You could definitely use this movie as an example of like very classic standard screenplay beats. Oh, yeah. um It works.
00:36:38
Speaker
It's like a machine. It works very, um very traditionally. That's not to say that's bad. Yeah, exactly. The idea that every screenplay must adhere to these things is bad. But just because one happens to do so doesn't make it bad.
00:36:51
Speaker
Exactly. And she sees him and she claims to be ah the Comtesse Nicole de... De Lancray. De Lancray. Yeah.
00:37:02
Speaker
Yes. And it's so sweet because as she's getting... Well, then she quotes Thomas More. Right. And ah ah the guy who's like in charge of all of the people that have been sold and taking them to a boat to go to the Americas, he's just like, I don't care.
00:37:20
Speaker
taking these people. They're so by the king. and um And then he he like starts yelling at her. And then, of course, ah Prince Henry has to waltz up and go, you dare raise voice to a lady, sir?
00:37:39
Speaker
And then they have this whole tête-à-tête where they're just sort of like bantering and being like, oh my god, you suck. And she he's like, no, you suck. And she's just like, here's some Thomas More.
00:37:50
Speaker
he... um yeah And then he's like, let these people go. Dude, let these people go. This lady makes a point. So the guy lets all the prisoners.
00:38:01
Speaker
Well, he lets Maurice go. He doesn't let all of them go. um And ah she still pays him. I don't understand why she would just keep the gold francs.
00:38:12
Speaker
It like the prince just said that he could be. Well, I mean, like. You gotta compensate the slavers for something.
00:38:23
Speaker
um But I mean, like, they're all poor. She could use that for other stuff. That's true, yeah. But I digress. And so then she starts to, she like turns to Maurice, still pretending, and he jumps down and goes,
00:38:38
Speaker
For a second, I thought I was looking at your mother. and I was just like, ugh. The amount of times that I almost cried while re-watching this movie. I've seen this movie like a thousand times.
00:38:49
Speaker
And I cried like eight times during this movie. Because I just love it so much. There's so many sweet moments. um And so then she starts to walk away. And he goes, wait a second. You quoted Thomas More. Let's have some more chitter chatter. And um she goes, the prince knows Utopian. He goes, yeah, that book sucked.
00:39:12
Speaker
And she was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you understand what it was saying? He was like, that i don't know. I guess not. I'm just a dumb prince, he says. just a dumb prince.
00:39:23
Speaker
I don't want to be king. ah Yeah. Yeah. So, um... Right. We should also talk about the stepsisters who are Melanie Linsky and Megan Dodds. Megan Dodds is a an evil little bitch. And Melanie Linsky is sympathetic, which is like a you know a change in the Cinderella story. she's like She's nice to her. Also because her mother and sister treat her like shit too.
00:39:54
Speaker
Yeah. Constantly call her fat. Right. Which is... It's Yeah. ah ninety ninety eight version of fat is Jesus Christ.
00:40:04
Speaker
Yeah. But Melanie Leninsky fucking crushes in this role. This is one of her, um, like roles before she was really famous. The same goes for Toby Jones, who is also in this movie.
00:40:17
Speaker
Yeah. Toby Jones has got like two scenes in this movie. Yes. Um, when is heavenly creatures? Um, yeah. Is it before this or after this? Heavenly Creatures, 1994. Yeah, but I mean, she was a kid in that movie. Yeah, exactly. That's her and Kate Winslet both.
00:40:32
Speaker
um Yeah, 1994. So it was before, but it was, you know, they were literal children in that. Yeah. um ah Yeah, so what happens next? um She meets her gay-coated servant friend, um Maurice. Her gay-coated servant friend.
00:40:52
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, he's like, we got to do something about that hair. And I just wrote down gay. Gay?
00:41:00
Speaker
And because, I mean, here's the other thing. Like, does he not have, if he's not gay, does he not have a crush on her? Like, there's no. Gustav, not Maurice. Gustav. Oh, Gustav, not Maurice. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Gustav, not Maurice. Maurice is old man who's married. Maurice the guy that she bought. Yeah.
00:41:15
Speaker
Yeah. um uh gustav yeah he's like helping her change and needs to it helps her fix her hair and yeah gay coded 100% gay coded he's a little gay coded um get coded henry comes to the house to meet uh rodmilla and jacqueline and what's the marguerite marguerite the evil one yeah yeah And they immediately start bickering with each other, which is what they do because they're the yeah the wicked stepsisters. That's their whole deal.
00:41:46
Speaker
They have a brooch off, which I think is really funny um because constantly like at you see the scene in the market where Angelica Houston is trying to buy a brooch for Marguerite and she goes, no, too small. It must draw attention. And the guy's like, well, I think anything bigger she's going to like topple over. And she's like, well, we need something big to and draw attention to my daughter's boobies.
00:42:10
Speaker
Well, Angelica Houston is also selling all of her dad's stuff in the house to pay for all this stuff. like And then she complains. She's like, where are the candlesticks? did The servants must have stolen the candlesticks. Like, no, bitch. You sold the standup candlesticks to buy a brooch.
00:42:22
Speaker
Well, she's obviously doing this ah doing that on purpose so that she can take it out of the wages. Yeah, I know. Yeah. it's yeah It's evil. Yeah. It's very evil. She sucks.
00:42:33
Speaker
But um when the prince shows up, Marguerite has her tits up to her chin and like this giant brooch. And um Prince Henry makes a comment about it.
00:42:44
Speaker
And then Melanie le Leninsky, she's got a quill that she was like working with. So she's stuck in her hair. So Melanie Leninsky quickly takes the quill and she puts it in her chest.
00:42:56
Speaker
um and I think that's really funny. for ah Poor Jacqueline. Yeah. Poor Jacqueline. Um, yes. She brings Maurice home and, um, he's back. So he's back with the servants and he's like, oh, they told me I was paid off. And Angelic is like, whatever. Yeah, go catch a chicken.
00:43:17
Speaker
yeah But she yells at, she yells at them, her for, because not seeing the print, because, uh, she didn't tell them that she saw the prints. And, um, Apparently there's going to be a ball in five days.
00:43:30
Speaker
And his father told him that he must announce at midnight who he's going to marry or he's going to to marry the Spanish girl. Yeah. It's the compromise that his dad comes up with. That he's just like, okay, okay, I get it. I'm being a little harsh. I'm forcing you to marry this chick without any options.
00:43:44
Speaker
So I'm going to give you one. In five days, pick a fucking wife or go with the default. Yeah. um They say because divorce only happens in England, which is not to that girl, but it hadn't happened yet.
00:43:59
Speaker
Oh, well. no It's a jab at Henry VIII. We don't know what exactly what exact year this takes place in, so maybe it has happened yet. um Toby Jones is ah is a palace... like Servant of some kind or like he's a courtier.
00:44:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. cortise He's, he's, he's noble because it's his outfit that, um, Gustav steals later. Yeah. Um, but Rodmilla flirts with him in exchange for information about the prince. Yes.
00:44:29
Speaker
And pays him. Yeah. Um, they, Danielle knows about the ball and they see them take, and, um, Jacqueline tells her,
00:44:41
Speaker
No, not Jack. Rodmilla tells Margaret, she says, well, you can wear her Danielle's dowry dress. And Jacqueline's like, but that's not hers. And then Danielle catches them and Angelica Houston's like, oh, well, yeah, you can wear it to the ball. We got it out for you. Why would you think you couldn't go to the ball?
00:44:59
Speaker
Yeah, as long as you behave and do your As long as you behave, which is like the idea is that, you know, she she knows she's going to do something that, yeah you know, Angelica Houston's never letting her go to the ball. so Exactly, exactly.
00:45:12
Speaker
um meanwhile Henry's become besties with Leonardo da Vinci yeah which is so cute and Leonardo da Vinci he's like at this like little lake and he's just like he god it is like Leonardo da Vinci and his fucking inventions throughout this is so funny He's got boat shoes.
00:45:29
Speaker
His boat shoes. It's one of my favorite scenes. It's where she's like taking a break from like hunting truffles with a boar. He's a real cute pig. real cute pig.
00:45:41
Speaker
um And she's like. He's very tall and skinny. Yeah. and She's like swimming in the lake to sort of like cool off and like clean herself and like. In her clothes. In her clothes. Because this movie's PG.
00:45:53
Speaker
Um. And Leonardo da Vinci has these boat shoes so that he can walk on water. And we're not talking about Sperry's. We're talking about shoes that are boats. They're little boats. And he's like clomping on.
00:46:06
Speaker
And so sees How would that work? Because you would step down and even if it wouldn't sink, it would slide out from under you. So it's all about, it's more of, it's more a feat of acrobatics than anything Yes.
00:46:21
Speaker
and Exactly. But he does it effortlessly with his little shoes. does, yeah. And he's walking across and he sees her and he looks down and he goes, looks like it's going to rain! And she screams, obviously, because there's a man walking on water. Yeah, that's true. but And so then we have our second meet cute with the Countess and Henry because he's just like, hello! she's just like, oh my god!
00:46:44
Speaker
It's you! um and then they have she's not dressed like a noble woman at this point also but no she's notice yeah right well she's she's all wet sure and oh heavens
00:47:04
Speaker
um and so he's just like uh he doesn't he like set up oh yeah he does he sets up like a second date with yeah well they they they she gets argumentative with him which is why he likes her because she calls him on his bullshit and um she says you have everything in the the world and still the world holds no joy for you yeah um and uh he says he's gonna go to the no no no no it's a different sorry that's later yeah um
00:47:35
Speaker
And she says that you he says you should come watch me play tennis. And then they're playing very silly game of tennis, which involves bouncing the ball off a wall. I don't know how tennis worked in the fifteen hundred and I don't know.
00:47:47
Speaker
But we're introduced to another villain. um This is ah Monsieur Le Pew. yes who's played by Richard O'Brien or um the, the writer and, um and co-star of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, Richard, Richard O'Brien.
00:48:07
Speaker
Really? Who is fucking, what's his name? um It's astounding. What's his name? Oh yeah. The, um the like lurch guy.
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, why can't I think of his name? Riff Raff. He's Riff Raff. Riff Raff. And he also wrote it. He wrote the play that it's based on and he wrote the movie too. Riff Raff. um ah Richard O'Brien is the villainous Monsieur Le Pew who is like creepy and um has apparently been, you find out later that he's the one who's been buying all the stuff from Rod Miller.
00:48:40
Speaker
And he's got a hard on for Danielle. Yes, he does. um Yeah. he but he also buys a lot of their food and has like they kind of depend on him and so they have to like danielle also can't like doesn't want to piss him off too badly because like they depend on him which is like yeah very um medieval and honestly like not that medieval but just kind of uh the way it works between yeah poor people and rich people which sucks um uh
00:49:11
Speaker
meanwhile i mean we can skip ahead a little bit uh we have a scene where rodmella tells danielle about her mother's abuse and yeah um danielle's like she didn't even know what her mother looked like um yeah and she's like she's a little nice to her it is like this softening of her character yeah kind of scene where she's like you know sometimes i see your father in you you know because your features are so masculine but it's like yeah It's these two kind of things. Yeah. yeah It's a little bit of Mother Gothel in that moment. Yeah. Like, yeah you know, let me compliment you and then immediately rip the rug out from underneath. Well, in this case, I think it's that it's she is is fighting her own, like, growing sympathy for her a little bit. yeah Because I think she does she did love her father and she see she does see her father in her, but she has to remind herself, like...
00:49:59
Speaker
she so for some reason blames cinderella for ah cinderella she blames danielle danielle for her for his death like and you know she's jealous that he loved his daughter more than he loved her which is like kind of how it goes with parents and kids you know yeah um And, um but that that that that vanity and that that jealousy wins out over any kind of sympathy she has for her.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah. um But she is a little bit more rounded by this and a couple of, and and one other scene specifically, um where we do not necessarily have sympathy for her, but we she's just ah more than a fairy tale villain, you know?
00:50:40
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. She's got layers. i'm mayor ah Then they meet at the monastery. They meet at the monastery. Well, there. Yeah. so he runs into Gustav in the field who tells him oh she's hiding. Gustav is like, oh, yeah. Come to the Comtesse de Longcray is staying with um with Rodmilla Ghent. Yeah.
00:51:03
Speaker
Yeah. And she's there right now. You should go there. she's like, what the fuck, man? She has to race home. and And beat him and get into noble clothes to find him. And he's like, let's come, come read with me at the monastery. And then they have this like day long date.
00:51:18
Speaker
It's just really cute. But then on the way back from the date, their carriage falls apart. It breaks a wheel, which, as you learn in Oregon Trail, means no good.
00:51:31
Speaker
um And so because she's on like a time crunch and she knows she has to get back before because everybody else is at church. This is on a Sunday and everybody else is at church.
00:51:44
Speaker
And it's Catholic mass. So it it takes hours. And um they, ah so then she's like, well, don't worry about it. We'll just, we'll walk. And he goes, what?
00:51:54
Speaker
We'll walk. Why don't we just wait for backup? And he goes, because that's going to take too long. So we're just going to walk. But then he gets them lost. Cause he doesn't know the own way back to his own castle.
00:52:06
Speaker
And so she has to like scale the side of this little, like, um, not a mountain, but like hill rocks, yeah rocks, some rocks to get to the top of this like little perch to see which way they needed to go.
00:52:21
Speaker
And she of course takes off her dress because it's one that she's borrowed from Marguerite. And, um, which is actually referenced earlier in the film because, um, Angelica Houston goes, why don't you wear this to the ball? And Marguerite goes, it's blue.
00:52:39
Speaker
About 50 other girls will be wearing the same color. Yeah. Good, Margaret. Great impression, yeah. Yeah, thanks. um And so that's where you get the scene where he goes, you climb rocks, you don't have servants, is anything don't do? And she goes, fly! And it's very cute, whimsy, sort of manic pixie-y.
00:53:00
Speaker
um But then it gets interrupted by the... um that the Roma. The Roma. ah What'd you call him?
00:53:11
Speaker
The Brigadier? No. Tyrants will. The bandits, yeah. Bandits, that's the word. was like, tyrants. Brigadiers?
00:53:21
Speaker
Brigadiers? No. um The tyrants. um They interrupt and they go, thank you so much for this dress and all your things. And Danielle rightfully so panics and she goes, what the fuck? I need this.
00:53:37
Speaker
be I'm going to get in trouble if I don't get my dress back. And Then she comes down and they go and she goes, ah you must give me all my stuff back and we will take a horse because you've caused trouble. And they all laugh at her, of course.
00:53:51
Speaker
And he goes, Madame, you may have anything you may carry. and To which she shows off her muscly skills. And she goes, well, let me go pick up Prince Henry. And she does. And everyone. And then she starts walking off with him.
00:54:05
Speaker
Which is so funny. Another classic like folktale. That's like a very like, that's a, it's a very like fable kind of thing where yeah um it's like, it's like, i don't remember what it is, but it's like a group of women and they're beset by these people. They're going to, they're going to kill their husbands. And they're like, you can take only what you can, we're not going to kill the women, but you can take only what you carry and all the women pick up their husbands and carry them off. Yeah.
00:54:28
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. um But then they're just like, I'll give you a horse. And also what's unsaid is, and you can come party with us. And we we're best friends now.
00:54:39
Speaker
And now we're best friends. And we're best Yeah. And then constantly she but she's playing rock, paper, scissors with the prince. And they're like. It was the fifteen hundreds They hadn't invented fun yet. So we we're getting drunk and playing rock, paper, scissors, you know, just rock, paper, scissors, truth, though. Like whoever wins has to like tell a story or something is what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. Which is very cute.
00:55:04
Speaker
And, um you know, he admits to her that he doesn't want to be king. And she's just like, but think of all the good that you can do. um and you know she's the only person that really like gets to him and like he he's like you don't understand being seen as what you are instead of who you are and she's like shut the fuck up what are you talking about what are you talking about yeah you stupid boy yeah exactly and then they kiss kiss kiss
00:55:37
Speaker
And all of the the Romani people are like, yeah, kiss. They're like, finally. Yeah. We've been watching this. And then tells her, he tells her um tomorrow, will you meet me at the ruins? And she says, I shall try. And he says, then I shall wait all day.
00:55:57
Speaker
Oh, so sweet. And then he goes home and he's in like such a happy mood. He wakes up his parents and his dad goes um off with his head, which is very funny.
00:56:09
Speaker
And he goes, ah he has all of these ideas. He's like, i want to build a university where anyone, no matter what their rank is, you know, um can learn. and um And also, oh yes, and I want to invite the Roma people to the ball.
00:56:23
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And his dad's like, I'm going back to sleep.
00:56:29
Speaker
but However, Danielle does not have as good of a morning. No. ah She gets woken up by Angelica Houston and Marguerite and Jacqueline. And they're like, where the fuck have you been?
00:56:41
Speaker
ah and she's a little hungover. ah She didn't get back till dawn. So she's real tired. And um they're like, ah she was like, I got lost. And they were like, I don't believe you. And she's like, okay, whatever. I'm going back to sleep. And they go, well, what about our breakfast?
00:56:57
Speaker
And she rightfully so goes, you've got two hands. Make it yourself. which sets off a whole fucking thing. Boy, oh boy. They not like that.
00:57:09
Speaker
She punches Marguerite directly in the eye, which she totally deserves. And then Marguerite, she's going, I'm going to pull your hair out and chases her through the house until Marguerite gets the copy of Utopia and threatens to burn it. Oh, this is when they find out that they're she's giving her mother's dress too um to Marguerite.
00:57:29
Speaker
Yes. And... um She, um, oh, no, it's not. No, it's not. it's around. It's around. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not about the dress. It's not about the dress.
00:57:42
Speaker
She grabs the shoes and um she's like, you give me the shoes I'm going to throw the book in the fire. And she gives her the shoes and she throws the book in the fire anyway. Yeah. And she still gets lashed.
00:57:53
Speaker
Yeah. ah Regardless of all of that, she still gets lashed. Yeah. And also gets like thrown into the storeroom. Well, that's later. Oh, that's later.
00:58:05
Speaker
In between. So Rodmilla and Marguerite have to go meet the queen who with a black eye, which she makes up a story about. She makes up this story. This is when Rodmilla finds out. This is when Rodmilla finds out that Danielle is the one pretending to be um Nicole Delancre.
00:58:22
Speaker
Yep. And Marguerite has a tantrum and is like, there was a bee. Yeah.
00:58:30
Speaker
uh she meets him at danielle meets him at the ruins he they kiss some more he says he wants to marry her and she's like this can't work out and she leaves him there rod miller confronts her about pretending to be nobility and hanging out with the prince um then the gown and the slippers are missing which i think the servants hid them is what happened yeah the servants hid them so that they wouldn't get worn by um marguerite um and what we don't see is that um rodmilla has told the queen that um the countess nicole de lancre is engaged and she's on the first ship to belgium we find that out in another scene where the queen tells henry that yeah yeah and he's like of course she was so upset and she was crying and i was pouring out my heart and oh
00:59:19
Speaker
So he's having an agony. And this is when Danielle ah tells Marguerite, I would rather die a thousand deaths than to see my mother's dress on that spoiled, selfish cow.
00:59:31
Speaker
And that's when they throw her in the larder and they go to sell even more shit so they can buy a new gown for Marguerite for the ball. Yep. um maurice convinces gustav to talk to da vinci to get word to the prince yes um da vinci comes over and takes the hinges off the door because they can't get it unlocked so he just takes the hinges off the door and opens it up so easily gustav dresses up like a courtier he knocks out toby jones possibly killing him possibly we don't see toby jones for the rest of the movie
01:00:03
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steals his clothes clothes um and um da vinci gives her the go get your boy speech basically yeah um we're just like you don't understand i'm poor i'm a servant girl and he goes yeah and i was poor too shut the fuck up go get your boy he deserves to hear the truth from the one he loves he says a bird a bird may love a fish but where would they live and he says then i shall make you wings
01:00:31
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And we get the best fucking dress in cinematic history. Well, one of. um ah Da Vinci and the... So Da Vinci is the is the very godmother, basically. yeah She waves to them at the gate like her dad used to do.
01:00:46
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Yeah. Jacqueline is dressed like a horse. Yes! She meets up another boy dressed like a horse and they have a flirtation. um They have a horse off. Yeah. Where he goes... The 90s?
01:00:57
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Whoa!
01:01:00
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da Yeah, they make horse sounds at each other. It's disturbing. She has wings just like Claire Danes in Romeo and Juliet a couple years before. The 90s were very big for medieval dresses with wings.
01:01:12
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Yep, yep, yep, yep. Butterflies. um She tells him she but she's not engaged, but she has to tell him something. He doesn't want to hear her. And then Rodmella attacks her and rips her wings off and tells him she's a servant.
01:01:23
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And he's like a servant. And she's like, Henry, please. And he says, do not undress me so informally. And I'm like, dude, i would never speak to him again if he acted that way. Like, exactly I... That is the the the one thing in this movie where I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't think he could apologize his way out of that.
01:01:40
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yeah In front of everybody, do not address me so informally. You are just, ah you were just like them. no Yeah. Yeah. He, he real mean to her in front of the entire court.
01:01:51
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Yeah. And. to shit Yeah. And like, that was the next moment that like, I started to cry is when she's running away and she falls and trips and she's got one wing and it's raining and she's crying. And there's one wing, there's a beautiful shot of like her with one wing sort of like crumpled on the ground. And Da Vinci sees her and he goes, Danielle!
01:02:09
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And he um goes to see like how it went and he can see that she's distressed and she gets up and she runs away. And it's just like, like so fucking heartbreaking. Yeah. that You're just like, oh my odd and she she leaves her shoe because she's gotta yeah yeah she's gotta um then da vinci has to go give henry the go get your girl speech a rare instance of the same person giving both a go get your boy speech and a go get your girl speech in the same movie yeah um he which is a really good speech he goes yeah you're an idiot well he tells him like because the henry's like well i can't do that and da vinci's like horse shit literally says horse shit
01:02:47
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he says, i will not yield. And then he says, then you don't deserve him. You don't deserve her. And he yeah he gives him the slipper. um ah And then she has this scene with her mother where she's like, you den denied me the only thing I ever wanted. You're the only mother i ever had. yeah Did you ever love me? And then she says, how can anyone love a pebble in their shoe? Right? Jesus fucking Christ!
01:03:09
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meanest fucking thing right Oh my God. Like right to the dagger, right to the heart. Jesus Christ. She sells her to Richard O'Brien in exchange for all the furniture and gold and everything that they had sold him over the years, which seems like, you know, that that's okay. She's worth a lot more than Maurice apparently. yeah um Da Vinci is painting her.
01:03:34
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Henry is marrying and a sobbing English princess, which is very funny. ah Spanish princess. ah what oh yes Spanish princess. um She is for a very long scene as they start going through this wedding, she's just constantly sobbing. Yeah.
01:03:52
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yeah finally and henry starts laughing and can't do it and then there's like this dumpy like old guy the in the wings that she's in love with and she goes to him and he's like this is just great and the king is like the spanish king and and queen are arguing and the english king was like well i thought i had a hard time yeah and they're just like i guess all royal kids are a hot mess Yeah.
01:04:19
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Henry goes to find Danielle, finds out she's been sold. ah Henry is coming after her, um but she saves herself because she draws. He starts like getting ah sexually aggressive with her. She pulls his sword out and slices him across the face and says she's going to kill him if she doesn't get if he doesn't give her the key to her. She's going to slice him from navel to nose.
01:04:41
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Yes. um And then she meets him outside the castle and he was like, well, I came here to rescue you. And she's like, no, this is the 90s. This is the feminist Cinderella. did it. did it myself.
01:04:52
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And then he apologizes and he's like, I love you so much. Will you marry me? And then she cries and she says yes. And he puts the shoe on and then they kiss and they hug and it's all really nice. And, like, I suppose. But, like, I'm still mad at him about the you should have not address me so line.
01:05:08
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And then we cut forward and Oh, man. the Jacqueline, I know you have to go, so I'm trying to get through this. You're doing a great job. Jacqueline has has been part of his as is as is part of this, and they get Marguerite Rodmilla to the castle where they're like, the queen yeah i wants to talk to you, and the queen's like, you lied to me. and she's like And Marguerite immediately throws her mother under the bus and is like, I can't believe she lied.
01:05:35
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Yeah, she's such a bitch. And she's like, you're going to be shipped off to the Americas unless someone here will speak for you. And Danielle, showing a lot more character than I would, is like, I'll speak for them. And I think that the king should the king and the queen should show them all the courtesy that she showed me.
01:05:51
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Yeah. Smash cut to them working in the castle laundry and getting thrown in a pit of dye. Well, because Angelica Houston tries to like boss around Marguerite and she goes, what? You're the same level as me.
01:06:02
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She goes, no, I'm management. Yeah. Yeah. And they immediately start bickering and start fighting each other. And the like head laundry woman pushes them into the dye and they all have a nice laugh. It's very good. look little Oompa Loompas.
01:06:15
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Yes. um oh Oh, yeah. And then Danielle says, i will forget you after this moment and never think about you again, but you will think about me for the rest of your life. And then I ask you, the king and queen, show them the same courtesy that she showed me.
01:06:28
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um incredibly hard thing to say. The script goes hard, honestly. It goes super hard. The romantic lines, the and then the the fucking put-downs are pretty good in this.
01:06:39
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Oh, yeah. Leonardo gives them the painting, and she says, we're supposed to live happily ever after, and he goes, that's what I've heard. And then... Jean Moreau is telling the Brothers Grimm the portrait hung in the university until the revolution, which we're just going to skip over. Yep. Don't worry about it.
01:06:56
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We're not going to go into any details about that. While they did live happily ever after, the point, gentlemen, is that they lived and we do a helicopter shot and it's over.
01:07:06
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Yes! Woo! That was great, Katie. Ha ha ha ha
01:07:17
Speaker
um ah Great movie. Yeah. Fantastic movie. Amazing. I love Ever After. It's fantastic. So what movie are we doing next week, Katie? Well, next week is September 28th, which is close enough to October. So we are going to begin Go Get Your Ghoul Month, where instead of doing rom-coms, we do horror movies.
01:07:38
Speaker
um So for five weeks... You can skip the episodes if you don't like horror movies, um but we do. So we're going to talk about five horror movies throughout spooky season. um Yeah.
01:07:51
Speaker
September 28th is spooky season. Honestly, right now is it's it's September 3rd. Yeah. As we're recording this and that is spooky season. It's 65 degrees outside. i yeah can wear a jumpsuit with a denim jacket. Like it's spooky season.
01:08:06
Speaker
It's spooky season. So we are going to kick things off with 1984's original Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh, fucking yeah. Pew, pew, pew. Which I assume you've seen.
01:08:18
Speaker
I actually have never seen it. Wow. Okay. So for Go Get Your Girl, we kind of made the decision on these movies together because we wanted to kind of to have like a – because we only get to do a month. We're going to have like a comprehensive setup. So the two of us picked these movies.
01:08:30
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Yeah. So the two of us picked these movies together. They're not a um i my pick, her pick kind of thing. Yeah. It's sort of like a combination to sort of give us a variety of different genres of horror, different um decades of horror.
01:08:44
Speaker
Yes. So yeah we will see you next week. Let's with outro. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:08:57
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01:09:10
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01:09:18
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