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02 | We are back from the PNW!
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After taking a month long sabbatical in the Pacific Northwest, we are back and ready to rock!
But first, we wanted to share 3 key takeaways, EACH, that we both learned along this journey. Especially, because we were hit with a lot of "must be nice" mentality comments before we left and during. And although, yes it was nice, it also had its challenges and we grew a lot both individually and as a couple.
Listen to hear some vulnerability.
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Transcript
Welcome and Setup
00:00:02
wegettodothis
Wow. We're back already. Episode two, Keely's figuring out the camera situation. The behind the scenes here is really, is really something. I'm learning a lot here. I'm actually going to start every episode by high five. Yeah. Feels a little cheesy, but also like we do it a million times
Beginnings and Traditions
00:00:23
wegettodothis
a day. So like it's appropriate right you current so it's August and we, Just got back from a little over three weeks off. I like to call it summer sabbatical. And at the beginning of our relationship, three months in, whatever it was, I don't remember how it came up, but I basically was like, all right, if we're going to be serious, I would like to take a sabbatical every year. And that was like the one thing, like one agreement I asked for. I think that's what we tell people. Yeah. Well, a month into our relationship, you left for,
00:01:01
wegettodothis
four weeks for the sabbatical for your sabbatical and said that that would be happening every year. I mean, it was up for negotiation. It still is because it's moved from originally it was a month and now it's three weeks. Yeah. And next year we're talking about not even going over the summer. So hopefully going to Japan. Yeah. But we're back episode. I don't know what episode this is going to be yet. Maybe two, maybe three, maybe four. We'll find out and So myself, I'm back in Minnesota, along with Kaylee, personal training at run coaching again.
Professions and Episode Topic
00:01:37
wegettodothis
Kaylee, you're obviously also back working with patients, acupuncture and wellness and all that good stuff. And we thought a good episode would be three takeaways each from the summer sabbatical. Do you want to explain like what we did for sabbatical? I guess before we actually go over takeaways from it
Sabbatical Journey Details
00:01:59
wegettodothis
Yeah, so like Jacob said, we took three and a half weeks to basically like be able to get a little more perspective in our jobs and kind of find out where we want to go with things. And so we did a West Coast trip and as Jacob's talked a lot about like moving somewhere. And so we went, but you haven't been to the Pacific Northwest before. So we went through Montana, we went through,
00:02:29
wegettodothis
Idaho, Washington, spent time in the mountains, spent time on trails, spent time with your were business mentor. We saw some of my best friends um and yeah, just explored and did what we love. We got a little bit of like sit down work in, not a time as much as we were planning on, but I feel like we have like, we had tons of like countless talks about like us and our careers like along the way. and it changed as we went to and kind of nailing down like more of our like immediate plans and future plans. So and along with that like we became away with a lot of takeaways from this trip because when you're traveling like for anyone that's traveled like things usually don't go exactly as planned and that's kind of life too and so with that we learned a lot about each other
00:03:28
wegettodothis
about ourselves. And yeah, so that's kind of what we want to talk about today. It's just some of the takeaways that we have from this last three weeks
Real vs. Social Media
00:03:39
wegettodothis
away. Yeah. Especially since on Instagram, especially social media, we only really showed highlights. We didn't really talk a whole lot on Instagram or anything about any of the changes we had to make on Strava. I usually keep it somewhat real where I'm more open. I don't know why on that platform I am, but I think I was There were a few rounds and whatnot that I went on where I was talking about things that I wasn't enjoying and wasn't. I was struggling with I guess when we were there, but I think to put it in perspective a little bit too, we. Left and had somewhat concrete plans for where we were saying pretty much every day except for like what kind of maybe a third of the days. I guess we like we're gonna, we're gonna camp in areas, right? And.
00:04:29
wegettodothis
Like the first weekend we were supposed to stay with my business coach, and that was for four days. And that did end up happening, although they got sick, so we couldn't do much with them. And then the next weekend we were supposed to stay with my run coach, and then he got sick. So then that was like another audible, we had to pretty much day off, be like, oh shit, now what are we doing? In real time, it was happening. Yeah, hotel, can't pick me up because, We did budget for this trip too, in a sense. So like adding five hotel nights like we did, like that drives the price like a thousand bucks up, right? So, and then, and those are probably the biggest oddables, I guess. And then everything else is probably stuff we're gonna be talking about.
Living in the Moment: Kailee's Takeaway
00:05:11
wegettodothis
And I wrote down takeaways more so in terms of like our relationship, partnership slash like in the trip itself.
00:05:22
wegettodothis
We can almost do a separate episode even online. But we're our biggest like business takeaways from this too, if you wanted to. Yeah. So yeah. Welcome till we get to do this. Excited to be here. Do you want to start? Should we alternate, you think? Sure. I'll do mine first. All three? My first one first. OK. I got you. Um, okay. So one of my biggest takeaways and just something that I've been thinking a lot about and something that we talked with your business coach about Taylor Thomas in Montana. Um, he was saying like life is for living. And I think like going into this, not that people were questioning what we were doing, but it was kind of like, wow, like you guys are able to take off like three weeks and just like go travel.
00:06:14
wegettodothis
And you could like there are definitely hints of like doubt and like being like, wow, it must to be nice. And I feel like both of us are like, yeah, this is what we're doing and this is a priority for us. And like I think as like being a health care worker and like for me like coming from like working in like hospitals and seeing a lot of sick people, things like that, I tried as much as I can to like live in the moment and to really take advantage of situations. And like I say that's one of the big reasons why I did my 200 miler this spring too. So again, people are like, why now? like Why are you doing that? And it's like, why not? like If I have the ability to be able to do that, like why like why should I wait? And like I think it
00:07:04
wegettodothis
Can be taken as like a very privileged thing to be saying this you'll they'll be like, yeah, we can just like get up and leave, but also like we are able to do it and like this is something that we've like planned budgeted for and like. i don't know I feel like you just never know what tomorrow is going to bring. And instead of like waiting until retirement, or waiting until you get to this next level, or waiting until you hit
Setting Expectations: Jacob's Insight
00:07:27
wegettodothis
this salary, or have this many patients, it's like there's all like especially entrepreneurs, there's always going to be like a next bar. And it's like, when do you determine that like this is it? And now we can do this. Or now we hit this. Now we can like buy the car, whatever goal it is.
00:07:46
wegettodothis
and So yeah, I guess my biggest takeaway was like, like, if you can do it, like, let's do it now. And like, we have like, aye like think the, think of a word right now, but like the ability, because we don't have kids or anything. So I get like, that's different too. But yeah, that's kind of like, why wait? Yeah, I think that he actually said this when there was like two peppers left.
00:08:17
wegettodothis
And I was worried about one of them being very spicy. And he was like, like, sure, let me eat the pepper. I agree, though. I think that that was, again, we can get in these routes of just working all the time, and especially how in the entrepreneurial world, but in any world, really, where we just get addicted and work, work, work, work, work. And the thing that I always think about is when we're in those circles, we tend to think, oh, I can't leave. I can't leave because, Again, we don't have kids, so that's a big missing link here. I get that, but in terms of like work and friend circles and different things like that, whenever I am in the mindset right beforehand of being worried about leaving, I'm always thinking I'm going to be replaced with my clients, leave me with my friends, find new friends, yada, yada. And on the one hand, one, it's like three weeks, right? So as long as it's on two.
00:09:12
wegettodothis
I think it's actually good to leave and understand that, yes, you are replaceable, but all those things are still there when you come back. You know what I mean? So I think that's always a really, I mean, actually a Colorado one specifically. So my number one takeaway was setting expectations, which we talked about a ton. I think this was one that, social media did not see. And I've been telling people the trip was like 50% awesome and 50% kind of hard, but the hard really helped us grow as a couple, I would say too. And I think to kind of preface this last year, when I went to Colorado for a month, I had a set spot to stay the first 23 days of that trip.
00:10:04
wegettodothis
where i I knew I was going to be in Colorado Springs for two weeks in a house and then in Breckenridge for a week and like a Airbnb thing. And I knew that was happening, right? And my kind of intention with that trip was run as much as possible. And then at the end of that trip, once Kaylee showed up in Colorado, spent as much time as possible with Kaylee. So that was like that trip. And we didn't really talk about the goals of what we were going to be doing during the the sabbatical. I just kind of like went into it with the mindset of like, I'm going to run as much as possible again and build a really nice training foundation base. And in addition to that, I thought, okay, I want to also work a lot on the business side of things, not with clients, right? Cause I didn't really work with any clients, but working on the business side of things. Those are like kind of my, that's kind of what I envisioned to going into it. Um,
00:11:00
wegettodothis
And we just didn't really talk about that. So then like one of the first days, I was like, I'm going to go run 10 miles. And you're like, what? And I was like, you want to come with? And you were like, not really. And then I would be a little like almost upset about that because we run together all the time. And then the next day, you know similar thing. Or ah you would want to go do something else. And there was still a lot of friction that was kind of built because of that. And I think it went. Definitely. I think it went both ways. I think that setting expectations ahead of time was like, okay, what does Kaylee want to do on this trip? And what does Jacob want to do on this trip? Yeah. Like what's the main goal? Right. Especially since we were only in like this, the spots we were in for like max, there was the one, uh, with your friends where you stay there for like six days, but every other spot was like, I think four, two, three, something like that. So we weren't in any spots for very long. You guys, we spent a lot of time traveling and.
00:12:01
wegettodothis
I think that if I could do it again, I would have talked ahead of time and been you know be more clear, but having more time to do different things. Yeah, and just like finding out what each other's priorities were. Because your priority was, yeah, trail run. And like I
Trail Activity Preferences
00:12:21
wegettodothis
think we each wanted to be on trails, but even that, we have very different visions for that. Right, 100%. And I mean, we found that out pretty early on too. Cause we only did like three trail runs and we like audible and decided we should have been doing as much trail running because I mean, essentially I would go on trails and like run this artist. I mean, I could not as I could, but you know what I mean? And for you, you were more than like, I wanted to hike and pause and enjoy a ton. And there's nothing wrong with either of those.
00:13:01
wegettodothis
Maybe you think there is? No, I think, yeah, my version of like trails is yeah, be able to stop, take pictures, run like down. And when there's like more flats, but then like, if we're at, I mean, our first trail hike, whatever, um, was that 7,000 feet or so in Montana. And that's kind of the other first time we're like, okay, we have a little different expectations here. Cause like my trail background is like, I lived in Hawaii for a year. I was in Seattle for a couple of years and I did a ton of like hiking. So I spent a lot of time on trails and doing like a lot of vert, but not necessarily running. yeah And it was kind of more of when I came back to Minnesota where I really started like trail running. So then my mind, like, I think this is another, like shows another, like your foundation and kind of where you come from, like speaks volumes and it's like, very like,
00:13:57
wegettodothis
has a lot of it and impact in your future life because I would always hike. And so when I got back in that setting, I'm like, yeah, I'm in the mountains. It's beautiful. There's lakes. Like I'm going to hike it because I'm still getting like a really good workout. And you are more of like, if I'm not running this, I'm not working out. And then you would make comments about like, okay, if we're going to hike this, I'll just go run later. Right. Well, I think like it's not even about the working out thing. I get so into running, you know, and like Strava is a huge, is a, as a huge part of that, obviously, but I get really into like, okay, today I want to run for an hour, an hour and a half, whatever it is, right? or Five miles, 10, whatever the number is. Right.
00:14:44
wegettodothis
And then when we go on trails and we're like pausing and hiking and like doing different things, then I get in my head about like, okay, I didn't actually run today. It has nothing to do with like the hiking aspect of it or like getting the workout in. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, and I think with like, you know, backgrounds starting with Aaron was another. Right. So you have the opposite side of mind. I rolled up to Colorado. I mean, when we started doing, I started doing trail running like two years ago now, but like mountain running, like what we did out there. My first time doing that was with Aaron in Colorado. We fucking showed up to the Barre Mountain and like I had to stop and catch my breath multiple times because of the altitude, but he was just moving. And that whole two weeks, we just like went on trails and moved. And it was just different. you know And like again, I sort of like setting the expectations of like what do you want? What do I want? I think that would have been worked out a lot. And then even like you know we talked about this a lot too with
00:15:40
wegettodothis
Like how each day is going to go in the sense of, I wanted to work on the business a little bit and I never really voiced that. And then like, when my opportunities are right to do that, I would end up like feeling bad and then going and hanging out with you and friends or whomever, like you know what I mean? Um, so yeah, that was an another thing too, or I think that just sending an expectation
00:16:09
wegettodothis
but But like you said, I feel like we learned so much about ourselves and each other. And even just like the settings that we're more comfortable in. Like, I feel like I'm pretty fine, like camping like in the middle of nowhere, like with bears and like with like no service, things like that. And you're more like, your ideal night is a hotel, takeout food, bottle of wine. Like, hold on. The wine was urine. You, you wanted the wine.
00:16:41
wegettodothis
We both did. But yeah, just different in that way as well, settings. So yeah, we learned. That was a huge takeaway for both of us. Setting expectations.
Challenge of Giving Up Control
00:16:54
wegettodothis
And that kind of goes along with my second one, so just the power of being adaptable and flexible. And that's something that we both had to be the whole time. Like you said, with like the places we were staying didn't all end up being exactly like we thought they would. Um, and then like our second night of camping, our air mattress got a hole in it. So then we woke up on the ground in the middle of the night. So now it's already kind of like on edge and irritated because of bears or the circumstance or whatever was going on. Yeah. Cause you're camping at Galicia national park too. And a bear sighting had been seen, you know, like two days prior and bear attacks and
00:17:39
wegettodothis
all of that and we found out you're very scared of bears but that happened and then our last couple camping nights it was raining the entire time the whole time and that was like the lap like my last like okay I'm gonna show Jacob like how awesome the Pacific Northwest is we we're like on the ocean and one of my like favorite campgrounds in the world that call a lot campground on the Olympic Peninsula And like the whole drive out there, it was raining. We basically set up in the rain, and it didn't stop until we left. We were wet the whole time. And I like didn't put the top on correctly. So we woke up, and there was puddles of water everywhere. So everything was just damp, and we had to dry everything out after. So just a lot of those moments where we're like, this is just like, it was out of our control. I think that's a few on it.
00:18:35
wegettodothis
Talk about control.
00:18:40
wegettodothis
So my number two takeaway was learning to give up control. And I don't know if this is something I'll ever fully be able to do. Because part of the reason I'm an entrepreneur in the first place is because I want control of my life. And I think that I don't know that I'll ever become
00:19:01
wegettodothis
comfortable giving up complete control, right? So I don't know if that's the right expectation or takeaway, but learning to be aware of situations where like, okay, you're not in control right now. That doesn't mean you have to like make everyone else miserable and you know, like try to gain control again. You know what I'm saying? Um, because a child, I, whenever I had enough control, my whole goal life was simic everyone else around me and i had that pop up in my adulthood less frequently, but it does pop up. And it did on this trip a couple of times, in which if something's not going my way, I basically become just a baby about it. And you don't have to investigate the huge specifics. But after the fifth thing on this trip, having to odd and blah, I was like, fuck. I was just over it. And I was like, I want to go home. I mean, after the 15th day or so, I literally was like, kid, I don't want to go camping. I want to go home. I'm just down with this.
00:19:56
wegettodothis
I think it was after like my brother and cousin had to not come on the hike with us specifically. and you know Another thing, like we planned a hike to happen on one day of the week, and like two people backed out, and we could have done the hike earlier, and it was just like, yeah, it was just like, it was yeah. And then we had invited two of Kelly's friends to to that hike, and so we felt bad, because we were like, I'll be playing this hike and then everyone else back that, you know, so that was frustrating to you. And again, it's, it's just kind of like, well, in those situations, I can put a sink, you know, and I think as a Gemini, we all can be like that sometimes, but learning to kind of give up that control. I think it was a big part of this trip as well. And a big takeaway of moving forward of just like, you can't control everything, you know.
00:20:53
wegettodothis
And in those situations, I've learned too, that you giving up control psychologically makes you feel like you're in control. So that's one, like a lesson that has helped me kind of learn like more about myself and like the ability to think I'm in control even if I'm not right. But then two, when it comes to like managing people and leading people or whatever, working with people on teams, even like clients I'm on the pass and the most with, but
00:21:23
wegettodothis
It's very big to make sure people feel like they have control. I think that's a big thing that everyone wants, right? So I understand it's kind of a tangent, but I've learned that if you can make sure people feel like they're in control, you can still theoretically like drive the ship in different situations and whatnot to do. So I think that that's, it's just awareness. Yeah. And just mindset shifts and it shows like the power of the mind and it's like, feel like we're very big on like not having like toxic positivity but it's like okay this isn't happening the exact way that we thought it would be but we are like out in the mountains right now we still get to do this with incredible people with each other and still taking the time to like acknowledge that like i think is also like impactful and something that especially as the trip went on like we got
00:22:13
wegettodothis
better like okay still like this is pretty freaking so feel like a lot of lessons learned with the mindset shifts. yeah
00:22:25
wegettodothis
My last thing.
Communication in Relationships
00:22:27
wegettodothis
We made it. Last one. Two to go. We've kind of already talked about this, but just like the power of communication and like, again, that goes along with like the setting expectations, things like that. But like, I feel like when we were able to say like, I'm disappointed that like we didn't get to do this or like this is like like I would like to trail run this or like this is a night where like I'm like it's very important to me to like stay like in a real bed in with a riff over our heads things like that I feel like that really helped us a lot and I think like going forward that will help us like
00:23:07
wegettodothis
tremendously in our relationship, like even being at home and then just like learning that as like, even now like business partners and using that with like our patients, clients, things like that. Um, like, and every time I feel like I ask people like, who have been together for, you know, 40, 50 years, it's like, what's the secret? And I feel like communication is usually like the number one thing. And cause I think that like we, it's not like we've been together that long, but like long enough where like, I feel like you think you know like everything about someone or know a lot about them. And I learned a ton of things about you on this trip that I like didn't know before. I mean, things you've already talked about, but just with the fitness side of things and the business side of things and learning what each of our strengths are and more weaknesses and our likes and dislikes.
00:24:04
wegettodothis
Yeah. and communication is huge. But i I think that that's something we've always been pretty good at. I think it comes from our past specifically, but if and I've been a very terrible communicator in my past. And so I feel like, and especially with you, I'm a good communicator yeah in most business settings, I would say. Communicating your wants and then as the other as a receiver like being open to what the other person saying I think that's where both of us have changed from like past relationships, too It's like you can be a great communicator But like if the other person is not open to like receiving that or like right feels shut down then you're not gonna get anywhere to me hitting like a brick wall and I feel like both of us are continuously getting better at being like
00:24:49
wegettodothis
Okay, I see where you're coming from, and even if that's maybe not what I want, you're not how I see things, like I get where you're coming from. And then kind of meeting each other where we're at. I agree. My last one is a very different different one. Alcohol and sleep is kind of my last big takeaway. I'm not, I don't not drink. And I don't have anything against drinking necessarily. I go on waves of it, but I knew alcohol negatively affected sleep, but it was so cool to see. Like when you add all of the stressors that we added into this trip, not normal, we were going to sleep some nights sleeping on the earth, literally the ground. if they're imagine
00:25:40
wegettodothis
Yeah, and the in the water, right. it's You know, traveling 12 hours in a car and then sleeping. It was so cool to see. So I wear the Ora ring and you have, you wear your watch for much every night, right? So there wasn't any nights that we got like drunk per se. We had like a glass of wine every other night, or like a beer every other night. We went to a brewery, things like that. Kaylee, there was one night, Kaylee had like a little too much. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Not actually. Anyways, so, so the biggest takeaway was though, every night we would drink alcohol. It didn't matter what any of their stressors were, our sleep would plummet. Our HRVs would be awful. Our variability, there'd be very low. Our heart rate, resting heart rates would be very high. Um, my like, um,
00:26:36
wegettodothis
which would call it respiratory rate would definitely go up a good amount. And my skin temp would all be fucked up every night. And I felt it too. Like I would wake up and be like, oh, I just feel like groggy. After one drink. Right. And that every single time, every single time, and again, we weren't drinking very much. okay Like, it didn't matter if we had a glass of wine the next morning, it would show up. um I would either feel it or in the or and you would say it. And then I would feel it on the run, which could be psychological. I don't know. but It didn't matter because we mixed that in with like some nights we were in a hotel and had amazing sleep, but had alcohol and then felt like junk, like the conditions of the sleep were really good. And other nights we were like sleeping on earth, like I said, and didn't have alcohol and actually slept decent. Like it was pretty wild seeing how much it affected, affected my sleep, but your sleep too. like clock There was no, there was no night when we had alcohol that we didn't feel.
00:27:33
wegettodothis
worse than I'd say. So and like with the technology side like it would say like for me like today needs to be a rustic so your training readiness is shit and would say like a restless night of sleep like it would just plummet for like at least 24 hours until like we get like another night of sleep without having alcohol so it's an interesting like experiments I mean to catch on to. i'd never like at Like we've said in one of your blogs, you say alcohol is poison. So like look I mean, that's what it is. It's the one nutritional thing that I'm very comfortable saying. There's no reason to have it. Yeah. Other than coping. I had a mentor will say it to me. Like if you're drinking it, it's because you're coping with something. Yeah. I mean, I also try only to drink alcohol. Emma Stone said, this is a crazy, stupid love. I think it's crazy, stupid love.
00:28:29
wegettodothis
but she says, I only drink to feel, I never drink to feel better, I only drink to feel even better. But she means like that, is that like, don't use alcohol. Try not to use alcohol when you're feeling well, essentially. So I try to do that too and only drink like tons and I'm feeling good, I guess. Same, like if I get home and it's like a hard day at work or something, I'm like, oh man, not this happens to me often, but like, I feel like it's easy to be like, to really, like a drink right now, those are the times when I'm like, nope, I'm just gonna go to bed instead or do something else. like So I feel like the time when we were drinking on this trip like it was very much just like for fun or like to be social with friends. But I think, too, with that, like the social like aspect of it, like again, nobody
Alcohol Habits Discussion
00:29:18
wegettodothis
cares if you're drinking. like I feel like we could do a whole podcast just on alcohol and drinking. But even breweries, like they have kombucha on tap. They have rapier on tap.
00:29:27
wegettodothis
like And nobody cares. Nobody notices what you're doing. and And if they do notice, then like, maybe check your circle. Right. When we were with your friends, I won't say their names, I guess, but I was running with the guy we were with a lot and he would have like a drink, maybe two. And we would like commit to running the next day. So I'd have to be like, yeah, I'm not. not drink I'm not going to go on that way to stop hungover when he, you know, so yeah, those are my three takeaways.
Summary of Learnings
00:30:02
wegettodothis
So any expectations are going to give up control alcohol and the effects it adds on sleep. And for me, the power of being adaptable, flexible, communicating life is for living. I love it.
Closing Remarks
00:30:16
wegettodothis
I'm Jacob and I'm Kaylee and we get to do this shows.
00:30:23
wegettodothis
but city on see I'm Jacob. And I'm Kaylee. And we get to do this. We'll get it. We'll get it. Peace. Adios.
Post-Sign-off Banter
00:30:33
wegettodothis
Wow. That was beautiful. We need to turn the air down more, please.