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07 | Superior Races & A 200 Mile Flashback

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The Superior races were this past weekend in MN! We had the privilege of spending time up there at aid stations, crewing/pacing for a friend, and seeing a lot of people's dreams come true at the finish line. 

What was interesting was the effect it had on Kailee. Listen in to here more!

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Introduction to Episode 7

00:00:36
wegettodothis
Hello and welcome back to the We Get To Do This podcast. We are on episode seven. Episode seven. My lucky number. Really? How come? I mean, it has nothing to do with the fact that I was born on the seventh and all the fact to do is it's just a lucky number. Thanks for remembering that it's my birthday. You really know me well. Anyways, episode seven. What do you want to talk about today?

Recap of Superior Fall Races

00:01:06
wegettodothis
Today we're going to do a little recap. We were out up in, up on the North Shore all weekend. It was the Superior fall races, which in Minnesota, if you don't know, it's kind of like trail Christmas for trail runners here and road runners, but it's Basically this huge gathering of trail runners from all over Minnesota and people travel like from all across the states. I can't remember what they said, but there's a lot of different states that come here, probably from different countries too, but it's put on by Rock Steady Running. The storm camps do it and it's a freaking blast. It might be storm storm That's the storm camps. Well, hopefully they're not missing this.
00:01:57
wegettodothis
Okay, one of those. But they're awesome. And so there's a hundred miler, a 50 miler and a marathon. The hundred mile starts at 8am on Friday morning. It's always the weekend after Labor Day every year. A hundred miler goes throughout the night and it ends on Saturday. You have 38 hours to do it, I believe, because it's an extremely challenging and technical course.
00:02:26
wegettodothis
I've never actually done this full hundred miler, but I have done the marathon, which is the end of the course.

Pacing Experiences in the 100-Mile Race

00:02:34
wegettodothis
And then this year, Jacob and I both got the privilege and honor of pacing, which you've done before, but this is my first year of pacing for the hundred. And it was quite the experience. I've actually never, I haven't paced for any races before.
00:02:51
wegettodothis
I've like volunteered. and That's wild. Every year I volunteer for the superior races. I'm like up there, but I've never actually paced anyone before. So we got to, good. I can wear my performance running gym hat. Well, we went up Friday and we spent all day Friday at two different aid stations and If you're watching on YouTube right now, you can see we got the first aid station. We were at PRG, performance running gym, their aid station. Then we went to another aid station, at the other aid station they put on at night in Finland. So here's the hat we got. Shout out to Ysa and Now it's on Kelly's head. She loves it. And then we also were at Temperance.
00:03:46
wegettodothis
Which again, if you are familiar with the area, these sound, they're points along the course. So there are people volunteer and set up their aid stations and whatnot, right? So if you're familiar with it, you know, we're talking about, but we got these shirts. Shout out to Mill City Running. Looks good. It says welcome to Temperance and it's a Nike shirt. Shout out to Nike also. They're pretty cool though.
00:04:13
wegettodothis
Yeah, these are cool. And we both wore them out today grocery shopping. So we're those people, our temperate shirts and matching PRG hats. Just kidding. We didn't wear the hats. We wouldn't go. We couldn't, uh, we couldn't look exactly the same. I've become my parents matching outfits. But, and then we also got the superior hats, which are like a cool orange, like chucker hat. Oh yeah. we mean mesh hat We should show that too, but I don't know where ours are, but.
00:04:41
wegettodothis
they somewhere but there're somewhere so yeah bright orange so you hunters they'd be good hunting yeah right not but good feel winter so to be scene lots of cool merch so We spent Friday at eight stations and then we crewed for our our runner Or one of the runners we were supporting I should say not ours but we crewed overnight and paced overnight for her and Kaylee was a She paced from like 10 p.m. to three in the morning or so. yeah And while she was doing that, I tried to sleep, so I got some sleep. what What that ended up doing. Yeah, so we, you started your duties at like 10, but you didn't actually leave the aid station until about 10.30. And then I didn't leave Finland, aid station until 11. And then I went to the place that I was starting, Crosby. And
00:05:38
wegettodothis
By the time I laid down, I think it i was like 11 17 or so. So I, I think I was able to fall asleep sometime in 11 range. And then my alarm was set for two, but I woke up in like 12 40 and had to pee. So I did that. And then I just woke up at one 30 actually. So I had about two hours of sleep. My ordering tells me I had two hours of sleep, which I actually felt pretty good compared to last year when I was pacing and woke up in the a really weird middle of the next time this year, I wasn't like shivering or out of control, like cold or any, you know, like super, super tired or anything. I actually woke up and felt like I, like, because I slept in the night range still, I think.
00:06:22
wegettodothis
I was able to kind of follow my circadian rhythm a little bit. You know, I just felt like I didn't get enough sleep, right? I mean, falling asleep before midnight. And waking up after is just the really, yeah, right. So I got like the heart of that. I don't know, i'm a sleep I'm not a sleep scientist, but then I, and a lot of this is hindsight, right? I ended up at the A station at about 250.
00:06:47
wegettodothis
And then you two didn't come in until after three. So I could have probably another hour of sleep. And that happens every year or

Mental and Physical Impacts of Extreme Racing

00:06:55
wegettodothis
whenever I pay some of those middle sections in the night, you're you're very worried about missing your runner, which good did you have service there? No, you know, I don't have service. Right. So that was the other challenging part of the whole time is service sucks up there. So like you go go in and out. So even if you're trying to communicate, because I was sending texts to you guys the whole time saying,
00:07:17
wegettodothis
We're four miles in, you know we're a mile away, we're a half mile away, this is what time we're leaving. But my texts weren't going through, so I kept trying to repeatedly do that, and then I wasn't sure if you guys were getting them either. No, we got one from you when we were walking up to Crosby, and it's the timestamp was 155 or something, and you said we are two miles up, two and a half miles up, or whatever. And so we thought, oh wow, okay.
00:07:43
wegettodothis
So they're not going to be here for probably an hour, four to minutes at least. But we also thought, is the timestamp correct? you know So anyways, so the variables, it's just, it's it's a tough game to play, especially at night. So then we ended up just chilling at the A station for an hour, basically. And then I relieved you of your duties. And then I wouldn't pace until 10 or so in the morning. And then I stayed up that whole day and didn't sleep at all until we got home. And surprisingly, I felt, again, kind of okay. Like I, again, I felt groggy and like I didn't get enough sleep, but I was shocked at how not messed up I felt because I was just super tired. And then that was in bed for 11, 12 hours tonight.
00:08:33
wegettodothis
last night, you got like 10 out of the sleep. So, but your experience was different because you got messed up. Yeah. And I think that's for a number of reasons. And like, we've talked a lot about this, but ever since the 200.
00:08:55
wegettodothis
I don't know. Like life has literally changed. Like my brain like changed. And right. Cause you, so you finished pacing. Like what, what happened when you finished, finished pacing? Yes. From 10 PM to 3 AM. And normally I like, when I've done other night races, I actually kind of enjoy the night and maybe that's cause it gets cooler at night, quieter at night.
00:09:21
wegettodothis
But I had, I'd never had the experience of starting at night. And I had thought that I would be able to get a little rest before starting, but we were volunteering from 12 to 8 PM. And then we had to head to the next aid station to pick her up. So by the time I got to the aid station, it was 9 15 and I was like, well.
00:09:44
wegettodothis
She could be here at like 10, so I'm not going to sleep. So then I just started going. And so then it's waking your body up by doing an activity starting at 10 PM eating. When you're socially very much in your resting. Yes. Very much in your resting. And we are all pretty much always in bed by 10 PM. We're very good sleepers. And so for me to just start going at that time,
00:10:10
wegettodothis
And then the eating at that time too. And we hadn't really eaten that much all day, but then we were trying, like I was trying to eat before I went out and then hit the aid station and after the first eight miles of my section. And I was eating a slider at, you know, one AM and some cookies at one AM m and drinking electrolytes. And that's just not normal for the body to be doing. It's not great for it, but that's what you do in these races. Been there.
00:10:41
wegettodothis
But then got done at 3 a.m. And I was pretty tired throughout the whole thing. I mean, it was pitch black. You can only see what's right in front of you, which normally I like that makes you very present with where you are. But for me this time, I was just getting a lot of flashbacks to the 200. And like for a lot of the 200, it was I would say maybe 90% of the 200. I was in a pretty dark place and the other 10% was like kick ass. It felt really good. first time The first 10 miles are great after that. In the last five miles, it's about 10% right? Almost. So yeah, so I was just thinking about that a lot and going through my own pain cave thoughts.
00:11:38
wegettodothis
And I paced 12 miles of this, so it was nothing compared to what they were doing. But after being at the aid stations all day and then being with, you know, the person you're pacing, you can just see the pain on people's faces. And after having been through that, not this specific race, but like having been in ultras where just everything hurts and it's uncomfortable.
00:12:07
wegettodothis
and you know you can stop like you can stop at any time but finding that will to just keep moving one foot in front of the other for hours on end it just made me it made me realize that I'm not ready to go do a super long effort again and people keep asking you know what's your next big thing and what's the next move and We're talking about, you know, the solo speed project, which is a 300 mile race. We're Halloween a hundred. And I've just realized that there's like so much pressure that I probably just put on myself. But after doing something like that, it's kind of just expected that you're going to continue doing those things. And that can probably go for anything. I mean, you hit a sub three hour marathon. I'm guessing.
00:13:04
wegettodothis
Like, you're probably expected to continue doing that. We're doing, like, hitting good times and stuff. You may disagree, but. No, yeah, I don't know. I think society, actually I don't know what society is as much as it is ourselves, but I think when you, we put pressures on ourselves to continue getting, quote unquote, better. By what point does that stop? Right, that was my epiphany this past spring.
00:13:34
wegettodothis
that I was going through similar things with running that I feel as though you're kind of going through right now in a sense of, I just got to ask myself, why am I doing this? Because yeah, you you just, you, you set a big goal or a time goal and you tell yourself once I hit this, then I'll be good. And then you hit it and then it's okay. Why am I so just go for the next one?
00:14:00
wegettodothis
but here's like of that right you're in a whole different situation up completely with this whole two hundred thing than i was because I feel the kind of took away some of your joy of the sport almost maybe that combined with
00:14:19
wegettodothis
that marathon and trying to, you know, run faster. I don't know. It's your story to tell, but my mind has it. There wasn't a specific race that I finished and then it like robbed me of some of my joy of the sport. yeah My joy of the sport got altered for different reasons that are important right now, but, and I had never experienced that before because I, but I think, you know,
00:14:42
wegettodothis
From my background, I started out slower, doing more road stuff. Then I found trails. Found a ton of joy in trails because it became less about the time and more about the journey, being out in the woods. Every course is different as far as terrain, hills, elevation. And then I slowly started increasing that distance, starting with marathon, ultra marathon. I did a couple of 50 milers, 100 miler, and then the next And my mind logical set was to do a 200 miler. And like you said, I don't know if I'd say it robbed me of the joy, but it's definitely changed my perspective on it a lot. And being out there this weekend, I think just made me realize that I gave my all to get through that 200. I mean, it took everything. Like I dug deep to finish it.
00:15:42
wegettodothis
And I've talked a lot about how much it affected my nervous system and just put me in that fight or flight mode for days on end. And I think that's something that just hasn't, I haven't forgotten that yet. Like I talk a lot about, there's a book called the body keeps the score and
00:16:07
wegettodothis
My body remembers being out there for that 200, whether I like it or not. And it's been six months, almost, five and a half months, which is a good chunk of time. And being out there, especially at specifically at night, all the miles during the 200 were hard, but especially at night. And that's starting in the dark for you know three, for four days.
00:16:37
wegettodothis
It just brought me back to that spot too of being like, you need to keep going. You need to keep moving and not really having, cause I went into it, not giving myself the choice to stop. I'd said, you know, I will keep, I will finish unless I break an ankle, unless something super bad happens, I'll finish it. And I've realized in the last, you know, five, six months now that I just,
00:17:07
wegettodothis
I don't want to push my body to those limits at this point. And it doesn't mean that I'll never be there again or that I don't want to push in other ways. But I feel like that kind of like fire, that ambition almost has gone down a bit. And so doing those night miles, it was like, wow, this is really hard. And
00:17:37
wegettodothis
I just don't know how much I want to be doing this at the moment. And during the 12 miles, I was like, wow, I'm really happy. I'm not doing this whole hundred right now. And I had gone into the weekend being like, for sure going to do it in 2026. We can't do it next year. Unfortunately, because we're going to be at a wedding, which is going to be great, but we won't be at superior weekend. So you're talking about doing 2026. And I mean, my perspective might be completely different in two years.
00:18:06
wegettodothis
But after doing that this weekend, pause.

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00:18:13
wegettodothis
We're in the middle of cooking dinner. So this is going to be a quick in interrupted break brought to you by no one because we don't have any sponsors yet, but here's the thing.
00:18:25
wegettodothis
We are two budding entrepreneurs looking for sponsors of this show. So if you are listening right now and you are someone that you know are is interested in also getting whatever it is that you have in your life, either a company or maybe your family or anything really, I guess that you're willing to help us out with the expenses of the show and we'll promote you if we agree with you, I guess, and like you. a If it's like a product that we don't want to use or that we don't use, we probably aren't going to promote it. So anyways, if you're interested in doing that, please, this is your plug to hit us up and we would love to chat and we are back. We are back. So anyways, I was just saying, it's hard to say where I'll be in two years, but I did not think that I would still be in this state six months later. And we were just talking today. It's not that I regret dreaming 200.
00:19:23
wegettodothis
But also, I don't know if I would do it again, if I would choose to do that. And. Are you proud of yourself for doing the 200? Yeah. I'm proud. I am proud of myself. Good. Yeah. But also there's,
00:19:49
wegettodothis
you know, long-term effects to all of our choices. And I chose to do that. I chose to put my body through it. And again, it's the aftermath that's tough. Cause I did, I enjoyed my training. You coached me through it and I did tons of strength training, running, mindset work. I loved all of that. I loved training through the winter. We're talking today too. I haven't had,
00:20:22
wegettodothis
a winter off of training for a big spring race in three or four years. Most people take the winters off and that's their, you know, off season and take the time to, you know, do the strength training, do all the things that they haven't been doing. And I've chosen to go the opposite route and then continue to train through the summer. And it's interesting too, because I'm a big believer and living with the seasons and, you know, Chinese medicine, winter is it a very yin time when we slow down, we're quieter. And I just pushed through it all winter and never really gave myself that rest. And that's been for the last, you know, forty three four years now. So I don't know if that has anything to do with it too, just not letting my body chill for a little bit and continuing to push and do something bigger
00:21:20
wegettodothis
quote, better every year. But I'm saying it, we're putting this on the pod, but this winter, like I just, I'm gonna chill for a little bit. And to me, that doesn't mean not doing anything. I find a ton of joy in movement.
00:21:44
wegettodothis
I, it's good for my mental health. It's good for my

Balancing Achievements with Mental Health

00:21:47
wegettodothis
body. Like I feel good doing it. It's my community going to runs and everything, but I think I'm going to change my perspective on training for something big to just going back to enjoying and finding the love of the sports again. And when I say that, it's not that I haven't enjoyed running by any means, like I still do really enjoy it, but I think I need to find a way
00:22:17
wegettodothis
To just get myself out of this like fight or flight mode every time I'm out on the trails and being like, I need to go do something like bigger and better now. And I think once you've done something, you know, once you've hit whatever it is in life, like that big goal they've been working towards and you realize like that was a huge accomplishment. They worked really hard for.
00:22:46
wegettodothis
I've been finding how do you come off of that and then figure out, learn that you don't need to top that with something that much bigger the next time. I think that's what my whole life is just like figuring out like better, better, better, more, and more, and more. And it doesn't need to be like that. And I'm learning that I can have just time roles. So I'm doing TC 10 Myler and.
00:23:16
wegettodothis
That's a huge feat in itself. And I'm learning that running a mile is pretty incredible. And I tell my patients this, I tell my friends this, there's like running a half mile is great. So why am I putting all this pressure on myself to do these extra long distances? You know what I'm letting you do your thing. I think this is good. I think it's relatable. I think people need to hear this. I put my coaching hat on, and then like logically my next question for you is,
00:24:00
wegettodothis
it depends on how far back you want to go. Why did you do 50 miles? but you feel need to do good the amount Why did you feel the need to do miles? Why you feel the need to do you And I think that i you don't need to necessarily answer that.
00:24:14
wegettodothis
Those can be your personal things, right? But I think understanding that is important. And then from there, you can kind of think about whatever that why was, and but whatever your reasoning for doing 200 miles was really at the core. Did the 200 miler, well, yeah, did the 200 miler solve that, right? But also the other thing is that
00:24:46
wegettodothis
No, because yeah, a mile is extreme. So um I can't even say that because I was going to say like the 200 miler was really, really, really, really extreme. You're moving your body for four days straight and sleep deprivation of the lawsuit. Right. So.
00:24:59
wegettodothis
You had other elements that ended up causing this PTSD afterwards that like legit, I mean, let me say, don't diagnose PTSD, but it's, in my opinion, it seems like you have, because we'll be out on trails and it's like you, you think back and have these flashbacks and traumatic experiences. And like when I work with my therapists, we have specifically talked about how PTSD doesn't have to be a,
00:25:29
wegettodothis
You know, we associate with like military, but there's aspects of, you know, a lot of life and very specific things that I work with mine about that he's classified them as PTSD for me. Right. So in my opinion, you have some type of stress response when you're out on the trails and the body is remembering it. And it's like, hold on. I now want to do this again. Right. So you have like these two different elements right now in my mind that you're kind of balancing of. Why did you do in the first place?
00:25:58
wegettodothis
Right? Which I think you know. And understanding, okay, maybe the 200 didn't suffice that Y. And now logically in your brain, it go you go, okay, I'm gonna go to the next one, right? to To suffice that Y, right? But the problem was that the 200 caused this ripple effect of trauma, essentially, it seems, that Now you can't. Am I kind of yeah on this one thing? I don't know. But it seems to me now you you can't go further than 200. So now what do you do? And again, I don't know. We've talked about your why and whatnot and it's not really important to this podcast. but can People can be relatable, they don't need to know your
00:26:49
wegettodothis
Whatever. So, but I think that's, I think that's part of it. And I, I've seen that with, I have seen that with a lot of runners. I've seen that with myself. You, you hit a goal and then you realize that the Y doesn't, that that goal didn't fix anything. Yeah. And then, okay. Well, you know, for me.
00:27:13
wegettodothis
I'm going to take 10 more minutes off and I'm going to take 15 minutes off and whatever. And then again, it's not fix anything. So then you you get to this point of, okay, we need to start doing some different work here, I think. Right. And I was talking to a client the other other week about this, how, and I, I think I heard this from coach Bennett originally, but the blunt version is that running doesn't owe us anything.
00:27:42
wegettodothis
Right. I wouldn't, I wouldn't expect you or any other relationship that I have to, I keep using fix and like, I'm not saying that you need to fix like wise or always negative things that you need to fix, or you know, but you're following me. Right. But I wouldn't expect anyone else to do any of that internal work for me. Why do I expect running in this time to do some type of internal work or distance to do some type of internal work for me?
00:28:12
wegettodothis
Right. We all do. Yeah. You know, and that's what I think that you and I have grappled

Identity and Expectations Post-Milestone

00:28:22
wegettodothis
a lot this year. And I see you kind of grappling with right now, but we've talked about other people too. Like and we've talked with other people that have grappled with this. Right. And then that's where I get into my whole thing with the relationship with running can be used as a space to do that work.
00:28:37
wegettodothis
But running is not going to fix that. And you can't use running to do, to outrun that work. I don't know if that made sense to go from what you were saying, but that's kind of a mind line. Yeah. Well, and when you're talking about the 200 and not going and past that, you're talking about that on our bike ride this morning, when I was saying for me personally, being someone who always wants to be achieving and being the best at different things. It's hard when in my mind now I'm telling, or my mind and body are telling me that's kind of your limit right now. And I hate using the word limit because I'm a big believer in you can do anything that you set your mind to, but also learning that 200 is good for me, at least for the next long.
00:29:36
wegettodothis
amount of time for now, for now, definitely for now for a while. I'm not pushing you to much you by any means. no you don't I want to make sure that's clear. I did not, I would, I would not recommend 200 for anyone. Yeah. Anyone. And I would definitely not recommend volunteering slash crewing slash pacing for 200. That might be a hot take, but I did not have a good time at all. I did not like watching you or any of the other people there. That was too much suffering. It was like, it was hard anyways. Yeah.
00:30:07
wegettodothis
seeing your partner and paying for that specifically was the worst part. And especially the fact that I'm sleep deprived too. Right. You know, and I do it. So you're my brain got all effed up too. And then, yeah. And just the fact that I was choosing to do that too, it just adds that hold their elements. It's not like I was sick in a hospital bed trying to get better. It was like, I was willingly putting myself out there for days on end to do this goal with my experience pacing other runners in the past.
00:30:37
wegettodothis
When I've had runners get to the point in which they want to quit and be done or you know start talking about, oh, this is so hard, whatever, blah, blah, blah, those negative things, they come up. right I've always been in a state of mind to say, no, let's keep going. I'm good. You're fine. Get up. I'm good. right The 200 was the first time I pay someone where I also wanted to quit. So then it was a different game of like, why am I here? Right. You know, and obviously it was for you, but it was just a whole different. Well, you did 50 miles of it with me. I mean, you did your own ultra during that. As well as not sleeping. So, right. It was just a, there were so many elements yeah to that run that I've just carried forth into life now.
00:31:26
wegettodothis
And I just realized I'm in this like big protection mode right now. And it's this push pull of, I want to keep achieving and hitting these goals and doing these cool things because I did this while also being like, but also I want to protect myself. I want to rest. I don't want to have to do those big things to get the respect of other people and myself.
00:31:56
wegettodothis
And I think there's both of those things there. I try to compete with myself and I'm not like, we've talked about this too. I mean, it's fun succeeding and having people cheer you on. And when you become known, I mean, you're,
00:32:15
wegettodothis
At least in the circles, we're a part of an, I would say Minnesota for sure. You are known as a 200 person. Yeah. Who else not thirty minutes so and comes It comes up a lot. We're at Mill City and and someone says they're interested in trails, Kaylee, immediately. Right. Which is dope. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. It's a good feeling too. Absolutely. You know? But then every time it brings me back and it's like,
00:32:44
wegettodothis
Did I like it? Would I recommend this? But no one's asking that. People don't really want to do a 200. That's the thing too. And I think it's, like it sets you apart. I don't know if in a good way. Yeah. Because. You tell me, I've never had that issue. I mean, I've, I think I've talked about this before, but how, you know, i everyone wants. Yeah.
00:33:13
wegettodothis
Well, it's like everyone wants to be included, right? And accepted and everything. And I've realized that the 200 might've been too much. I think it put, and this, I don't mean this to like some cocky or like unique or anything, but I think it was that limit where people can't relate to it anymore. Unless you go hang out people with people without 200s. Yes. Which is just at this point in time, it's becoming a lot bigger and more people are doing it.
00:33:42
wegettodothis
But at this time, a 100 miler is incredible. And it is. like Again, a marathon is incredible. All of these distances are amazing. But it just made it seem like, oh, Kaylee can easily do this because she's just done a 200. And to me, it's like, this is actually still really hard. Just because I've done that doesn't mean that it's this easy task.
00:34:11
wegettodothis
and Yeah, so it's just been another thing, another side of it to grapple with and to not really have many people to understand that.

Diverse Experiences in Extreme Races

00:34:27
wegettodothis
And along with that, the people who have done 200s, such as the people that I did cane break with, a lot of them, it seems like they had a good experience in that they want to be immediately signed up for next year.
00:34:44
wegettodothis
And then I'm sitting over here being like, what's wrong with me? Where I'm like, hell no. I do not want to do that. So it's figuring out, am I just, you know, weaker than them? Where it was a bad experience? Like what, how's my experience different? So interesting how we're thinking. Yeah, it's terrible because, but again, it goes back to comparing because you're like, you say that,
00:35:14
wegettodothis
It's just so much, you know, the mind works, right? And everyone thinks this way because on the one hand you're saying it was too much because I, I went to a different mind spot. I don't want to say level spot, whatever. Then now a lot of other people in the world, right? And now it's almost like I'm a little too unrelatable, right? Same time, then your mind goes to, but There's this group over here that has done it, and they want to do more. But why don't I want to do more? I'm unrelatable to them, right? So you just always like in the, and I think that way, I think everyone thinks that way, right? I wonder what David, I wonder what he, I haven't heard him say much about the 200 actually. We should have him on and see what he thinks. David was this badass runner who also did the 200, who's now going for a sub 16.
00:36:09
wegettodothis
16 hour, 100 miler. So he took it the opposite way and is like, I'm going to kick ass. Maybe he's also like, I don't need to be a 200 yet. I don't know. We should have him signed up for game break. But yeah, there are all these people who want to do it again. And I think that made me feel isolated another way. So it just leaves you in this like weird spot. And I have a hard time talking about this because again, I don't want it to seem like poor me or, you know, but like the goal of our podcast is

Lessons from Running for Life Achievements

00:36:48
wegettodothis
to be real. And these are things that I've been thinking and it just came up a lot with this weekend and being up at superior. And I think the people needed to hear it. That's great. Because I think this can, why I love running is that it is so relatable to life.
00:37:07
wegettodothis
And I feel like this could even be, you know, you hit the CEO position of your company right and this is something you've been working for for so long. You've put in the time, you've put in the effort, you've made those connections and then you hit it and all of a sudden now you're the boss of everyone. And now what? Where like where do you go from there? Right.
00:37:32
wegettodothis
So I don't, like, I know I'm not alone in saying this. It's just my thing was the 200 miler. But yeah, I mean, if you're getting famous all of a sudden, if you become, you know, the owner of your ah multi millioned-million dollar company, like whatever it is, it's hard. It is. And then it's figuring out, okay, now what? And I think we need to understand that it doesn't then now what does it need to be this next big accomplishment?
00:38:10
wegettodothis
What? I think that's deep. It's something I've been grappling with. And I think it will always be like that, you know especially having our personalities being you know entrepreneurs. And I always tried to be the straight A student.
00:38:31
wegettodothis
and there's gonna be different times for pushing and... Well, and that even gets into, we should wrap this up soon, but it even gets into thinking about like, kids and what kind of message you wanna send to kids because that 200 made me think about that even of I don't want
00:39:00
wegettodothis
At what point does working hard as a message become too much? Right. Yeah. Anyways.

Episode Conclusion

00:39:08
wegettodothis
Anyways, this is episode seven. We get to do this podcast. We get to do this, and thanks for listening. and
00:39:23
wegettodothis
I'll try to use it. This is podcast, and that would never stop. get to do this We get to do this.
00:39:34
wegettodothis
Peace. Peace.