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Episode 144: Episode 5 HOTD Review
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This week on the show the boys review episode 5 of "House of The Dragon"! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!
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Transcript
Episode Introduction and Overview
00:00:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Welcome back everyone to the popcorn podcast. I'm Tommy Crusta and somewhere in the shore is my coz Ryan Faran. And today we're here to talk about episode five. Is this five?
00:00:13
Ryan
Yeah, it's five.
00:00:14
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Yeah. Episode five of House of the Dragon.
00:00:18
Ryan
so Am I sounding good?
00:00:18
the_popcorn_podcast
and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You sound you sound good.
00:00:23
Ryan
I'm still on the beach.
00:00:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, and yeah.
00:00:28
Ryan
Did I sound far away?
00:00:29
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah No, you sound, you sound fine. But, uh, yeah, we're here to talk about episode five of House of the Dragon.
00:00:31
Ryan
That's cool.
00:00:36
the_popcorn_podcast
And then, yeah, that's really it for this week's episode, actually. like And then we have another episode that we're going to record right after this.
00:00:39
Ryan
my god
00:00:42
the_popcorn_podcast
I'll post right after this, but we'll get into that when we actually record that.
00:00:43
Ryan
Yeah, we're going to review ah long legs. But side note here, I'm i'm recording in the best room that I can you know have some space to put a cherry down and sit. My sister has s SPF 100 sunscreen in here.
00:00:58
the_popcorn_podcast
No, I want that.
00:00:59
Ryan
and that's Wow. Water resistant for 80 minutes. That's incredible.
00:01:06
the_popcorn_podcast
Damn.
00:01:07
Ryan
Wow. Yeah, but anyways, House of the Dragon.
00:01:09
the_popcorn_podcast
What was that label?
00:01:11
Ryan
um Let's just say, I don't think Aegon could have worn sunscreen in the last episode. I don't think that would have helped very much.
00:01:18
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, no, I don't think it was going to help that boy any either.
Episode Five: Character Focus and Aftermath
00:01:21
Ryan
No.
00:01:22
the_popcorn_podcast
It was ah like initial thoughts, I didn't. i' think's bab I don't think there's a bad episode in the show, but again, it's just a very good episode. It's very much Setting up the rest of this season and what we can expect for what's coming on what's going to happen
00:01:38
Ryan
Yeah, it was it was a cool down episode. After the last episode with the massive fight at the end, you just needed an episode like this to kind of regroup, see how all the characters are feeling, what they're thinking, and just kind of settle down after the last one. So I you know i kind of knew it was going to be a you know more towards the boring side. There wasn't going to be any like battles or anything like that. But I thought it was a great episode still, just seeing how everybody kind of took it, especially all the scenes with Corlys. I mean, that man was going through it, unfortunately.
00:02:08
Ryan
Yeah, I thought it was a great episode, so.
00:02:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, no, I agree. It's just, it's House of the Dragon. I mean, I'm just happy that the show is still going and it's still going strong. It's not having any kind of dip off from last season and throughout so far this season. And yeah, I liked every scene with Corliss. I liked, I mean, I liked every scene in this episode. There was nothing like, there was a couple of scenes that stood out that I was excited about. And I think I have them both written the ones, the final scene, the entire episode I really liked because it just got me excited. But yeah, I think, yeah. Yeah, it was just a good episode. There was nothing that super stood out to me.
00:02:45
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, there's, yeah, there's two scenes later on that I really enjoyed.
00:02:45
Ryan
You know, keep thinking about it.
00:02:48
the_popcorn_podcast
But all in all, it's just a good episode. Like what you said, it's cool. It definitely is a cool down episode. But again, coming off an episode as big as last episode, you kind of of see the out like the effects of what happened.
00:02:58
Ryan
Yeah, 100%. It was cool seeing all the small folks' reaction too, especially in the beginning when they're wheeling Mele's head through the um through King's Landing, just hearing them all go like, oh, God, this
Perceptions of the Targaryens
00:03:10
Ryan
is a bad omen. Why would you do this? It's, you know, because you kind of forget that the Targaryens, because we spend so much time with them, you kind of think of them more as human, but you forget that the small folk, they're gods to them. Like nobody else can come through and ride a dragon and go through all this. And ah they say it over and over again with Jaehaerys and Viserys' rule, there's been 70 or 80 years of nothing but peace.
00:03:35
Ryan
And all of a sudden, the high towers come in and and screw it all up. So I thought it was really interesting hearing all the the small folks' reaction to the Mayleys and the death of a dragon. It seems like they're really more on Reneerah's side than you kind of think. But yeah, <unk> just it's cool getting that different perspective than you know the obviously the the highborns that we've been with throughout the entire show.
00:03:58
the_popcorn_podcast
You know, I definitely agree. And then I like, I like how the episode starts off quiet, very um very quiet, just showing. We get to see Corlys' reaction to the events at the end of the season, at the end of the last episode, episode I'm sorry. And you also see Veneers, which then leads into us singing. As Ryan said, on at King's Landing, we see the army returning and then with the dragon head. And I agree with you, I really like seeing like the normal people. Like they, we get to see their reaction to all this because we never get to follow them really in game of thrones or this. It's not always about the higher ups in the world, the Kings, the Queens, the Lords. And that's what we mainly get to follow. So it is always cool. Anytime we get to kind of like live in that world for a little bit and see what they think of these situations.
00:04:42
Ryan
Yeah. And I liked the little scene with, um, it was quick, but it was, I think it was Hugh's wife maybe, or just some other lady. She was going through like the market picking out oranges and all of the oranges were just covered in mold. And she picks up the one with just the least them amount of mold. Like it was still, it was still gross, but she was like, man, we gotta, gotta get something here.
00:04:57
the_popcorn_podcast
Well.
00:05:01
Ryan
So it's, you know, times are really bad right now in King's Landing and probably for the most part across the realm, um, So yeah, it'll be interesting to see if that develops a little more. I think another part of this episode when Rhaenyra sends the one lady to go and kind of like spread rumors and do all that stuff. I can't wait to see
Politics and Rumors in Westeros
00:05:21
Ryan
where that thing ends up because that's one of my favorite parts of Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon is just seeing all how much words have power and how they can destroy people without them even knowing. So I can't wait to see where it goes with the small foot, whether they kind of rise up at some point or what happens there. But yeah, I mean, shit's bad right now. It's a tough life. um
00:05:46
the_popcorn_podcast
I think it's more to say I was doing was didn't want to cut you off.
00:05:48
Ryan
No, I'm just done.
00:05:50
the_popcorn_podcast
um But yeah, and then that kind of leads us into Allison scenarios, they're carrying in this box, which is a gun in the moment, and they're trying to they are trying to hide them from the people, they don't want them to see what happened to their king. And
00:06:05
Ryan
Also from the sun, because that would suck.
00:06:07
the_popcorn_podcast
on that arrow. But it that scene was so disgusting to watch when they're like taking his armor off and all of that and just watching the skin go away.
00:06:14
Ryan
Yeah. Dude, when they, when they snapped like his, his knee or whatever bone that was back together.
00:06:20
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh.
00:06:21
Ryan
Oh, hell yeah.
00:06:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Did you say? Oh, yeah.
00:06:26
Ryan
Yeah, my nose, I just had so slimy in my nose.
00:06:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh.
00:06:30
Ryan
and So that's what my thought was. I also wrote about the dragon head.
00:06:34
the_popcorn_podcast
But, yeah.
00:06:35
Ryan
Probably smells worse than the raccoons we passed on the way back from the mountains.
00:06:39
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, do that one raccoon did smell so bad.
00:06:42
Ryan
We passed like five of them.
00:06:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, they their ops were out for them. I told you.
00:06:46
Ryan
It was crazy. Rocket got fucked up.
00:06:49
the_popcorn_podcast
um But yeah, they do the Grand Mesa does say that Aegon is still currently alive at this moment and then Eamon Aemon then gets to tell Allison that there needs to be someone else to rule while Aegon's out and they need to Show that the people that everything will be okay because especially recently we see it with the oranges in that quick shot and quick scene We know that there's food shortages. We know that they're Right now, the royal family is not in the best position with the people of King's Landing because of the hangings, the food situations, and just everything in between.
00:07:17
Ryan
No.
00:07:20
the_popcorn_podcast
And I don't think many people already in King's Landing. I think maybe like um the other families outside in different parts of Westeros. but I don't think they really love Aegon at all. And I mean, you can kind of see why threw throughout the show.
00:07:35
Ryan
No.
00:07:35
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, so I have a feeling in these next was this this episode five, I think episode six, and seven, we're definitely gonna get, I think more into like the actual side of King's Landing, what everyone thinks.
Challenges in King's Landing
00:07:47
Ryan
Yeah, i don't they obviously don't like anybody, really. like They don't like Aegon because he's an asshole. They don't like Aemon because he's insane. They don't like Alyson because you know she's done really nothing and just kind of married the king and then gave birth to these fucking weirdos. They don't know anything about Halena because he doesn't go outside. um And even on the blacks, like I guess they probably like Rhaedira more, but they're also terrified of Daemon still because you know, all that shit with the gold cloaks and how the gold cloaks just went in and started butchering people when he took him over.
00:08:22
Ryan
But also, I did have a thought from last episode. Remember when, ah when Aemon first like tells Cole that Aegon is sitting with his dragon, he points at him with Cat's Ball, the little dagger.
00:08:34
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:08:34
Ryan
I didn't realize it, but Aegon had that the whole time. So Aemon must have found him, gone over, taken Cat's Ball off his belt and just walked away.
00:08:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, he did. i I didn't realize in the moment, but you watch you see him doing the episode.
00:08:49
Ryan
Yeah, you see him like put the sword back away, but God.
00:08:51
the_popcorn_podcast
You seem like sheathing away. i So when I first was watching last week's episode, I thought he he like killed Aegon himself. Like when I just like split his throat or something.
00:08:58
Ryan
Yeah.
00:09:00
the_popcorn_podcast
But yes, and now we know what it was that he was doing, but.
00:09:03
Ryan
I just thought that was so funny. He just went up and just took it and was like, all right, fuck you.
00:09:09
the_popcorn_podcast
He's like, I don't give a shit. He hates his brother.
00:09:11
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and then we go back to. Yeah, this would be Dragonstone. jason Jason was talking to Baela, right? He's not talking to Reina, is he?
00:09:25
Ryan
No, Raina's at the Vale.
00:09:27
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:09:28
Ryan
So yeah, Baela.
00:09:30
the_popcorn_podcast
No, wait, who does Corliss talk to later in the episode? He talks to Reina.
00:09:34
Ryan
Baela.
00:09:34
the_popcorn_podcast
No, Reina.
00:09:36
Ryan
Baela's the older one, the one that Luke is betrothed, or Jace is betrothed to.
00:09:36
the_popcorn_podcast
so
00:09:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I thought that was Baela that he is supposed to marry, but the one we see a lot this episode is Reina.
00:09:47
Ryan
No, I don't think so.
00:09:48
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah cuz he says he says Corliss says Reyna later.
00:09:50
Ryan
The older one.
00:09:53
the_popcorn_podcast
Right? Or am I getting I get the names mixed up?
00:09:53
Ryan
Is it raining? Am I just going to make something of names? I could be. I don't know. You keep talking. I'll figure it out.
00:09:58
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, I'm gonna say Baela cuz that's why I wrote and that's why I thought it was and oh no, didn't Baela leave? He has just had it been Reyna. So I said, I said, Jace tells Baela that he plans to travel and speak with the phrase and which Baela says Reneer would never allow it. And he, he says, don't speak of it then until I've already left so that no one can stop him. And I like this. And I understand why Reneer doesn't want him to do this, but at the same time, I like seeing Jace kind of want to take a stand and be an adult and not want to always feel like he's hidden behind his mother and that he can be a soldier. He can be a leader. And yeah, so I like what Jace, I like Jace's whole arc in this episode kind of.
00:10:35
Ryan
Yeah. Uh, so yeah, Jace was talking to Baela.
00:10:39
the_popcorn_podcast
Yes.
00:10:40
Ryan
And then Corlys later on talks to Baela.
00:10:44
the_popcorn_podcast
He talks to Bay. Damn, why do I think it's Rayna.
00:10:45
Ryan
Yes. Because she's the older one. She was supposed to inherit, um, what's it called? Um, Corlys' place. Shit. Can't think of it.
00:10:54
the_popcorn_podcast
Okay, so we're really never gonna see. We're not gonna see Rayna as much.
00:11:00
Ryan
Not as much. We see her in this episode when she goes to the Baela and talks to Lady Erin, but yeah.
00:11:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, but
00:11:05
Ryan
because she's the one who got sent off to Pentos.
00:11:08
the_popcorn_podcast
Yep, that's, that's who I thought. Um, but yeah, after that scene, oh yeah, we see Rene talking with Masari about how she was, she wasn't taught to fight. She was taught history and knowledge and that was never supposed to be her position because it was such a peaceful time. And that wasn't the job of a queen and especially not like the queen of everyone. Like, I don't know how to explain it. queen It's not a queen consular anymore. She just would have been the queen. You're not supposed to be in the battles fighting at that time. You're supposed to be back there.
00:11:38
the_popcorn_podcast
You're supposed to be helping your people. And yeah, so it is cool to see that even Renier knows that maybe, at least how I take it is that Renier is like, she knows that she should be the queen, but at the same time, she was never taught this style of being a leader.
00:11:41
Ryan
Yeah.
00:11:52
the_popcorn_podcast
Like she's never had to be violent or aggressive. She's just been taught how to handle problems and all that.
00:11:59
Ryan
Yeah, no, she obviously being a woman, she wasn't taught that stuff. That's kind of the point of that. But I do, I thought, Maybe Viserys should have done that after he named her heir. He should have been like, all right, you have to fight a little bit. But I think still it's because they had so much peace, Viserys and Jaehaerys. Just all that peacetime, they never really expected it. So maybe it was just kind of a slip on Viserys' end jane to not give her any training like that. um Yeah, like she you know just kind of thought they're not going to have to worry about it. So you know why why even worry about it?
00:12:37
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, no, I'm definitely in agreement with that. And then, of course, we see Rene are back with a council and how the council really has no trust in her leading them into battle. They more want a male position helping when helping them with that when they just kind of want her to stay behind, which again, kind of goes back into what she was just saying, I'm sorry, she didn't really train this way. So I get where the council's come from. But at the same time, you can't really. Yes, you are. I guess the council's job is kind of go against what they say and kind of give them better options. And maybe Reneer does need help with all that, but she was not very accepting of it yet.
00:13:11
Ryan
Yeah, which I think is kind of a fault of Renier because she she understands that behind closed doors when she's talking with Miss Aria that she doesn't know how to fight. But every time these guys bring it up that you know, she should stay back. She's so adamant that she should go and fight, which honestly probably isn't the best idea because she doesn't know how to fight. So, you know, obviously she needs to do something. And in her mind, as the queen, she should be on the front lines at least maybe not on the front lines, but at least be there. Just, you know, she has a dragon, you know,
00:13:43
Ryan
compared to a lot of other dragons, you know somewhat large. So she should be doing something. But I don't think the council was that wrong in saying that she should stay back for at least most of it. Because these guys, and she said it later, these guys haven't seen war either. But at least they've you know trained like all the other boys, and they also have armies that they can can command. So you know the armies will follow them because they trust in them. So I don't think they're completely wrong. It's more so the way that they say it to her every time that ticks her off.
00:14:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, cause they say it more, it seems like kind of, that they say in like an insulting way instead of just trying to get it across as like, no, we care about you and this has never been what you were, this doesn't, this isn't what you know. That's, I feel like they're just wording it wrong. And maybe she's being a little thick-headed about it cause she already feels, I mean, she's felt this way since she was a kid that just cause she's a girl, no one believes in her.
00:14:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:14:34
the_popcorn_podcast
So I mean, she probably just, I don't know, she's, she's trying.
00:14:40
Ryan
She is.
00:14:41
the_popcorn_podcast
I'm still team black all the way, baby.
00:14:44
Ryan
Yeah, it's it's tough to say otherwise because the Greens have almost no um good qualities about them. I guess and they're still trying to do like, are you team black or team green? It's like there's no it kind of sucks because it's it's become so black and white with team green now, where I feel like earlier in the first season, more when like their youngers could have been like, oh, you know, this poor kid got his eye chopped out. You know, Alison still kind of sucks, but now everybody just sucks on the greens. Like you can't, you just can't side with them. They're more entertaining to watch, I think, but it's tough to be on that side in any way.
00:15:22
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, because they there's no good person in the greens. I feel like Allison's probably the most good heart of them, and she's still she's the reason for all of this.
00:15:31
Ryan
Yeah.
00:15:32
the_popcorn_podcast
So, yeah, I get I definitely liked when it was more like you could root for either side, but at the same time, there eventually had to be a worse side to all of this. Like, I don't know, maybe you don't need to have a worse side, but I always like when there's a I like having a bad side, the good and the evil.
00:15:50
Ryan
Mm hmm.
00:15:50
the_popcorn_podcast
because there's definitely some evil people in team green when I don't think, I don't know, because the whole Damon storyline right now is definitely not helping the blacks cause, even though I don't know if that.
00:15:54
Ryan
Yeah.
00:16:00
Ryan
No, Damon's always been the rogue, you know, the rogue prince. He's always been that guy who can just get bad when he needs to. So especially now with what happens later with fucking Willem. God damn it, dude. Oh, that's that's rough.
00:16:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, this is good. Um. And Masara, then she tells Raina that she knows that Cole had made a mistake by taking the dragon's head through the city.
The Power of Words vs. Swords
00:16:25
the_popcorn_podcast
As we've seen with all the city folk, the city people, the normal, normal people, they, um, they're all saying it's bad luck. This is a black omen. And Masara is like saying like, Hey, like this isn't just people think, like people think this, but this is helping you more than you even know. And then, which leads into a quote that we've been hearing, I mean, since the very first trailer of the of this season, we've been hearing it in every, like, ah next week's episode coming up on Game of Thrones.
00:16:42
Ryan
Yeah.
00:16:53
the_popcorn_podcast
We've seen it every time. ah We've all been waiting, at least for me to hear it, because I feel like it is such a huge part of this Game of Thrones world. And of course, I'm excited to see more of a in-house of the dragon, and that there is more more than one way to fight a war. And yeah, I mean, that's what you said. That's what you're so excited about. And just seeing the, The way some of this rest of this episode pans out, it really is going to become such a big deal that it's not just all about the actual battles and the swords. it It's going to come down to secrets and which like just ah vocal battles, I guess you want to use it that way. and It's not all just going to come down to them sword to sword.
00:17:30
Ryan
Yeah, 100%. Um, and especially now with, with the dragons, you see, Kristen say it earlier, like he was, he was all pumped up to go to battle cause he's done it and you know, he, he knows what to do. And he did a good job in the battle, commanding his guys and having a plan, but he says it to Alison earlier, like.
00:17:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Thanks.
00:17:48
Ryan
We've handed the word of the dragons now. It's over for us You don't get the fight sword in hand and do all that because once a dragon shows up it's game over. So it's um It's gonna be interesting because it you know, you can't just have dragons fight Every day because it's you know, you don't have you don't have enough especially with vague are on that side the blacks have more dragons, but You know, and the Greens just have Vhagar who's, you know, it's tough to beat. So you got to try something else. And i it's my favorite thing about these shows is all of like the wordplay and how it can ruin somebody and prop somebody up. It's just so much fun to watch.
00:18:28
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, a hundred percent. Then. Oh, I definitely scroll down way too far, my notes.
Character Insights: Rhaenyra and Daemon
00:18:38
the_popcorn_podcast
So Rayna. No, Bailah and Reneer speak about how Ray, I think more to make Reneer brings it up to Bailah, I think it's a way to try and make her feel better and that they talk about how Rene's claimed her dragon, how they were pure. ah Was it her father that was so mad about it?
00:18:58
Ryan
Yeah, I think so.
00:19:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and it was, it was more.
00:19:00
Ryan
I think it was her mom's dragon and she died and then Rainey's took it pretty, pretty quickly.
00:19:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:19:05
Ryan
like
00:19:06
the_popcorn_podcast
And it was, it's just nice. It was more of like a nice scene because you can see that Reneira is such a caring person, which we don't always get to see. And I definitely think she's probably a much kinder human being, a kinder person than Allison. And we, I feel like we get to see that more in this, um in this scene specifically.
00:19:24
Ryan
Yeah. Definitely agree. She's, um, she knows how to be a mother. Like she, she understands what it is. She was, and obviously after losing her son, she, she understands what that means to, to lose somebody. And with Bailey just losing her aunt, um, it's tough. It's really, really difficult for her. So.
00:19:45
the_popcorn_podcast
And then we get into a scene that right away it was just so uncomfortable is that we see de Damon continues to have these dreams here at Harrenhal. And this dream specifically is of him and his mother having sexual relations. And the whole time.
00:20:01
Ryan
Yeah, that was something.
00:20:03
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and the whole time, it instead of like dirty talk, she's just hyping Damon up and all the things Damon needs to hear about, like how he would have been better suit suit for the throne, all this stuff, only if he had just been born first. And I thought he was go wake up and just be in his room. He's just having this wise eating dinner with all the homies. so Very, very uncomfortable scene to just cut to them, bloody duck.
00:20:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:20:27
Ryan
Yeah. That was gross.
00:20:29
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, um what goes on?
00:20:30
Ryan
I didn't like that.
00:20:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:20:31
Ryan
I was trying to figure out, I'm like, who the fuck is this? And then she just said, she she dropped it. It was his mom. I was like, Oh God, dude, Jesus. Even Damon was caught off guard. He was like, Oh, what the fuck? Jump bag.
00:20:43
the_popcorn_podcast
I couldn't tell if he was coming off guard or if he was just...
00:20:44
Ryan
He's grossed out.
00:20:47
the_popcorn_podcast
I don't know.
00:20:47
Ryan
I think he was a little grossed out by himself.
00:20:50
the_popcorn_podcast
um Then we see damon Damon as he's sitting there at the council, tells the strong that is time for them to it's time for him to show their strength. And yeah, that's pretty much what that is. um And then he learns that all the coin, all the gold that they've, he thought that they had and all this stuff, they only really have enough to just keep themselves warm and feed who's been there. So they don't have the resources as of right now to feed these armies that they're going to need these battalions and all this kind of stuff. But son
00:21:19
Ryan
Yeah, Lairs took it all with him to King's Landing. So they're basically broke.
00:21:23
the_popcorn_podcast
of a bitch.
00:21:24
Ryan
They kind of just have the castle, but they don't have enough to build it up and make it what it needs to be, or at least what Damon wants it to be.
00:21:31
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, they definitely don't. I don't even think they have enough to make it what it needs to be.
00:21:35
Ryan
No, not at all.
00:21:35
the_popcorn_podcast
Because what Damon wants is definitely more than what they need, because I feel like the damage is just a little crazy.
00:21:39
Ryan
Yeah.
00:21:41
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, I mean.
00:21:45
the_popcorn_podcast
Maybe it makes sense because Lars is a bitch, but at the same time, like you feel like you'd want, I guess, because they don't really have say over layers because they're just going to do whatever he wanted. He's such a little ass.
00:21:55
Ryan
Yeah. And Larris is also the Lord of Harrenhal. He he de controls it technically. He just gave it to Simon as like, ah you can you can stay here. And you know Simon can't really do anything because Larris is not only the controller of Harrenhal, but he's also basically on the council. So it's a he's in a tough spot.
00:22:18
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. And then this ah this whole sequence ends with Damon as he's ah moving out the door. The council then tries to stand and. They all kind of don't, they're not really used to having this council means whether the sandal and the King elite. Well, the Lord leaves, I guess. And Damon then requests to be called the King and like, and then, uh, Simon corrects, which is a King Kong sort, which Damon responded. He's like, that seems a little bit unnecessary, isn't it? Kind of seeing more each and every each episode, of especially this season, we're seeing him become more and more like, no, I'm, I'm, I'm the King. Like.
00:22:49
the_popcorn_podcast
No one's taken this way, which at first is very seem like he could be on my near side But he's definitely seeming to lose that as the series good moves forward And
00:22:50
Ryan
Yeah.
00:22:59
Ryan
Yeah, I think so. I mean, I do love the time and keep saying it though, because you know, like, He's got balls to say that to Damon, dude. To keep dropping that and just keep dropping consort after every time Damon calls himself gang. It's so funny, because one of these times, man, he could just get got immediately.
00:23:19
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought that was coming is that because the way Damon just turns to look at him It's that look that Damon gives when he's when he's kind of lost himself for a moment But from there we go back to King's Landing where Allison is told of Aegon's injuries and how they believe that there's more injuries probably inside than there are outside and That she just wants to She wants to know if that
00:23:22
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, 100%.
00:23:42
the_popcorn_podcast
he's going to heal and if he's woken up yet and the grand match doesn't think that he'll ever wake up at this point I mean if you get a look if you got to see this episode which I'm assuming you did if you're listening to us and when you see him he doesn't look like there's gonna be not much going on inside his brain from now on
00:23:59
Ryan
No, he's all fucked up. But I do love how Eamon is just immediately like, all right, if he's not waking up, somebody's got to be king. So I mean, Eamon knows what he's doing. He's he's very much like Eamon. He's just, it's completely on purpose. He just wants to be king and he wants to take a role.
00:24:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, everything.
00:24:16
Ryan
And, you know, it's fair enough because he's going to be much better than Aegon or at least much more aggressive because he knows what he has to do.
00:24:23
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah Yeah, I don't know if better is the right word.
00:24:25
Ryan
Yeah.
00:24:27
the_popcorn_podcast
They, um, which then leads to Allison saying that she should be the one that sits on the throne during this time, only because she's done this before with the service, which I agree. I think Allison would have been the better choice for them at this time. I know that that was peacetime then. And this is war. And this is going to be, there's going to be different decisions in to debate, but Allison at least has the experience. And I still feel like. Aim in such a loose cannon and what he's going to do.
00:24:50
Ryan
yeah
00:24:50
the_popcorn_podcast
And this leads to then the council's coming to a decision on who they should pick and It all comes down really to Cole's decision being the hand and he selects Eamon.
00:24:59
Ryan
Yeah.
00:25:00
the_popcorn_podcast
And yes, now Eamon is going to be the one sitting on the throne at least while quote unquote, Egon heals.
00:25:07
Ryan
Yeah. I mean, it makes total sense for them to pick Amen, because if they were to pick Allison, What would that mean for Roneer? You know, you can't have this entire war about a woman not sitting on the throne and then put a woman on the throne. At least, you know, even if it is for a little bit, you just can't do that. And Ayman's obviously the right choice to make just especially for Cole because the decision kind of came down to him. um they've been plotting the entire season just scheming on how they're gonna fight this and they've made plans together so they're very much on the same side and they think the same way so it makes total sense to have aim and tone the throat at least for a little bit um especially for allison even though allison does have
00:25:49
Ryan
more experience with it and would probably make decisions that are a little bit more helpful, especially to the the small folk and stuff like that. But I mean, Amen just got up there immediately and started making decisions. I loved how he he walked up and just put his little ball on the seat. He was so badass. And then the whole scene where he's talking, explaining what he needs to do, finally takes the Ratcatchers down. So I think Ayman's going to do, you know, obviously still one of the bad guys. So I'm not going to say he's going to do a good job, but I think he's been thinking about it for a long time and he knows what he wants to get done. He knows what he needs to get done.
00:26:28
Ryan
A, to aid aid their side in the war, and B, to get the small folk and other people back on their side a little bit. Because I think he realizes how important that is just as much as now, you know, Renier is starting to realize it. So it's going to get interesting.
00:26:45
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and then from there, going back to the the small folk, is that they begin piling at the the gate to get out of. Would this be to get out of the Red Keep or is this to get out King's Landing?
00:26:57
Ryan
I think ah I'm not sure. I think it might be King's Landing because yeah, probably just King's Landing.
00:27:03
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, then we see that the guards are just like, no, you can't leave. Amen. Amen. Amen has been ordered has ordered to keep the gate shut and to keep the people there. And this does not make these people happy. So they kind of just start kind of rioting at this point and just attacking the guards. And I really thought this could turn to a much bigger thing. Like it was going to start slicing and dicing the innocence.
00:27:27
Ryan
Yeah.
00:27:28
the_popcorn_podcast
Which doesn't turn into that thing, God. But yeah, it was it was still pretty As we're saying, like it's showing that these people are not very happy with how things are being ruled, especially in King's Landing at the moment.
00:27:40
Ryan
Yeah, 100%. It will be interesting to see if if Damon kind of goes back to the gold cloaks and tries to get help from them, because they're still pretty loyal to him.
00:27:42
the_popcorn_podcast
From there we go.
00:27:52
Ryan
You see, in the first episode, one of the guys who killed Jaharis, young Jaharis, Jaharis, whatever it was, he was a gold cloak that Damon just stopped and was like, hey, you still work for me. Let's go. So um it'll be interesting if Damon tries to go back and get them back on his side um I think that's something that can definitely happen.
00:28:14
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah and then with that we see jay says he speaks to the phrase the phrase continued to pretty much this is yes the phrase right yeah and uh and they continue to say that they they fear vagar which i mean it's pretty
00:28:24
Ryan
Yeah, it's the phrase.
00:28:32
the_popcorn_podcast
pretty fair thing to fear, I think. And they ask if they can request protection, which Jace grants. He also said they'll have Damon's protection, which you can tell right away. They don't really believe him on that as much. Like they don't, they don't know if that's actually true. And he, Jace grants it, even though I don't know if he can't really control Damon. And then they don't really fully accept this yet. And then he asked what they want. They say, can is there a way that they could get in on Harrenhal? And for that, Jace requests that they bend the knee then.
00:29:05
the_popcorn_podcast
And I saw that he talks about ladies like they want Harrenhal.
00:29:05
Ryan
Yeah.
00:29:10
the_popcorn_podcast
I took it as more like they want to marry into Harrenhal.
00:29:14
Ryan
No, they want hair and all.
00:29:16
the_popcorn_podcast
Cause cause he says, are you, I wouldn't say they meant like we have a daughter. Cause like, are you planning to birth any more Lords? So I wouldn't say they meant like, Oh, we have a daughter that could, maybe we have a kid that could eventually marry in and have hair and all. So I wouldn't.
00:29:27
Ryan
No, I don't think so. Because Harrenhal isn't like, it's it's not a place like Winterfell where it's like the Starks always have it. Like the the Strongs have it right now with Harrenhal that is, but it's constantly moving around. It's just like in dice. It's the biggest castle that there is. Obviously it's in ruins now, but it's it's just a place that a lot of people want. So no, I don't think i don't think they meant like a marriage pact with with the Strongs or anything. I think they just want Harrenhal itself. And they can ask for that now that it's under the Black rule.
00:29:54
the_popcorn_podcast
ae
00:30:00
Ryan
kind of
00:30:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, because they have it because Damon has captured, quote unquote, Harrenhal.
00:30:04
Ryan
yeah
00:30:04
the_popcorn_podcast
and to Oh, back in Harrenhal, we see Damon in the middle of what seems like the main room or the biggest room is so at the time in Harrenhal. And all of a sudden he begins to hear screaming, which then Damon of course looks back to see the witch just chilling up there watching over him.
00:30:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:30:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Like a weird bitch.
00:30:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:30:28
the_popcorn_podcast
um
00:30:28
Ryan
I also, I did find out that she is supposedly, um I forget the the strong from the first season, the guy who was like Visera's his hand for a little bit, supposedly she's his bastard. So she's supposedly like Laris and Harwin's bastard sister, but also that in the books is like very, you know, they're not sure about it. So she very well could be like a witch who's been there For like decades or however long but supposedly she is a strong bastard. So That's just I thought that was interesting Yeah Yeah, like it said that that's who she is but nobody really knows for sure I
00:30:59
the_popcorn_podcast
Okay, so I thought so Yeah, but it's cool that we cuz then I was like I guess I was wrong But it is good to know that I wasn't I mean I could we could be wrong to their interpret to what everyone thinks is that she's that but Yeah ah Damon then begins to speak with the witch as she is fixing up his hand a little bit and and she begins to talk about how this isn't this isn't a war this is just crimes against innocent people at this point and I mean in total she does have a very fair point since a lot of the there what there's only been a few battles so far and we hear that really Cole is just running through these castles these places and just either killing people or he's just accepting he wants them to bend the knee and I mean not fair point and
00:31:48
Ryan
yeah
00:31:51
the_popcorn_podcast
With Damon, you can definitely see that even if he was in this battle, he might be doing the same exact thing because he isn't the kindest person. And he, as we've talked about, I mean, the entire time that House of Dragons been on, he's a very ruthless human being. So.
00:32:03
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah, 100%. I mean, it's it's a through line throughout both series is that you know the the lords play their game and the ah small folk are the ones who suffer. um So yeah, but especially what's with what's going on with the Blackwoods and Brackens right now, the Daemon kind of started by telling Willem to go and get them by any means necessary. We see a little bit later on that the Riverlands as a whole are not very fond of that. um And they kind of turn against Damon. But yeah, I mean, it's it's mostly the innocence suffering right now. And I feel like maybe even a little bit more with the Blacks because, well, yeah, Kristen's going through and taking different keeps and castles and making them bend the knee. He's definitely hurting a lot of small folk and anybody who won't immediately submit. But if if you think about it,
00:32:55
Ryan
The blacks have only done that. Like they're not even taking places. They're just killing people at this point, especially with what Damon's doing. Like they, you know, neither side has a good track record, but we're going to go like percentage wise. The blacks might be doing worse right now, especially with again, what's happening with the Brackens and Blackwoods. So.
00:33:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, especially with what we're gonna learn we're gonna talk about in I think only a couple in a few scenes where you go back to the whole idea of hurting innocent people and But yeah, it's definitely definitely not looking great. Oh, no, it is this scene.
00:33:26
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:27
the_popcorn_podcast
I'm sorry.
00:33:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh No, it's not I'm wrong. It's not the scene to I
00:33:33
Ryan
Mm hmm. I did love seeing Damon actually like work, though. I kind of thought that was cool when he was actually like chopping wood and trying to build shit. I feel like most gloards wouldn't do that.
00:33:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, cause he said he's like, no one cause he says like, no, we'll be able to say that I did not get my hands dirty.
00:33:44
Ryan
Yeah.
00:33:46
Ryan
Yeah. Like I feel like he's still not a good, like he's still pretty crazy and rogue and doesn't really care much for innocence and stuff like that. But I feel like it's kind of working. Like out Alice is kind of getting to him with all the drugs and shit. He's kind of learning his lesson a little bit, but obviously not that much, but um yeah.
00:34:06
the_popcorn_podcast
i don't know if he's larry like I feel like the drugs are more just whatever she's giving him at this point. I feel like it's more bringing out like his His envy at this point. I feel like it's making him more like I want this is what I want. I don't care that
00:34:18
Ryan
I feel like it is a little bit, but I also think that she's trying to show him that like this, this innocence, the ones, the innocence like her, or at least, you know, quote unquote, like her are the ones who suffer. So I think she's trying to show him that, um, which I think might be working just a little bit, but you're right. Like he is still pretty crazy and you know, he's not a good guy. He's very like anti-hero ish.
00:34:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely definitely a good guy was not a word I would use with Damon. But then we they end that conversation with Damon saying even he's like, Renier has the right to he's like, but he's like, even the people that follow Renier and agree that she should be the queen will not follow her for the battle.
00:34:46
Ryan
yeah
00:34:59
the_popcorn_podcast
That's not who they're not going to follow her into these wars.
00:35:02
Ryan
yeah
00:35:03
the_popcorn_podcast
of They need a king. They're looking for a man in this. Which sadly at this time is most likely true, is that they do want someone that has been the battle, has fought and all that. That's who they want, not a girl who hasn't proven any of this yet.
00:35:13
Ryan
Yeah. the Yeah, they want somebody who will fight by their side. And we know from earlier that Renira can't do that. Like, she just doesn't know how. So they want somebody who's going to go into battle with them. We saw last episode, you know, Kristen used it when Aegon showed up. Kristen used it to hype up all his men and be like, hey, your king is with you. Let's fight harder. And it it totally works. Like, that's that's that's how it goes. You want the guy who you're fighting for to be there. So. Obviously, they'd be fighting to get Runeiro on the throne, but if she's not going to be in battle with them, you need somebody to go to battle with, somebody to fight for and be like, yeah, I'm fighting for that guy over there, not that lady, you know, three kingdoms away.
00:36:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. And then from there, it comes to the, one of the scenes that is one of my favorite scenes of the episode is when Cruellus is speaking with Baela of how Rhaenyra wants Quillus to be the hand of the, hand of the queen, I guess, in in this specific situation.
00:36:13
Ryan
Yeah.
00:36:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Cruellus doesn't, he doesn't care for this. He's, he begins talking about how none of this really means anything. Does this, Oh, is this make up for that? My wife is dead. And he then goes into how he would rather just travel West right now and disappear and leave it all behind. Baela goes with all this and tells Corliss that Raney's died the way that she had wished, just like how her own mother had died and how she wishes to one day perish. And in one of the best scenes, which to me is again one of the best scenes of this episode, Corliss wants to, he did this whole conversation between the two of them, ends with Corliss saying he wants to make Baela his heir, and she speaks of how it can't be her, she's born from what she'd say, heir and fire, land and fire.
00:36:51
Ryan
Fire and blood, maybe.
00:36:52
the_popcorn_podcast
And he's firing blood and then he's from something in sea.
00:36:55
Ryan
Sullivan City.
00:36:57
the_popcorn_podcast
Salt and sea, thank you. Which again, I like that she isn't so...
00:37:05
the_popcorn_podcast
I feel like so many of the people of the show are so greedy and they would be like, oh yeah, sure, give it. I'll take it. While she is very much like, that's not what I'm here for. It's not what I'm supposed to be. And yeah, Bail is the best. So far.
00:37:16
Ryan
Yeah, no, I ah thought it was a really good scene from Bela and that actress in general.
00:37:17
the_popcorn_podcast
like
00:37:20
Ryan
Like, she did she did a great job and she she makes a great point. Like, Corlys would be a great hand. It's a great call from Rhaenyra. And she would be a terrible laura i guess lady of Seastone. What's it called again?
00:37:37
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh my god, I can't remember now.
00:37:39
Ryan
I can't remember either. I think it's something like that. You know what I'm talking about. um
00:37:43
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:37:43
Ryan
yeah but ah She's just honest. She makes a good point. and Like you said, most people would be like, yeah, totally. Give me as much as you can possibly give me. But she realizes that you know especially if she wants Corlys to be on their side and to be Hand of the King, she needs to just level with them and be like, listen, I'm not the one for this, but you are the one that should be Hand of the King or Queen. It just makes sense. So it'll be interesting to see who they pick. It's probably going to be that Corliss's bastard, who we've been seeing throughout the show, past couple episodes.
00:38:15
Ryan
I mean, you know, there's got to be a reason to keep bringing this guy up. So I'm sure it'll probably be him or maybe the other guy that we've seen once or twice. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
00:38:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I think it's going to be I think it's his bastard. It's eventually going to take over.
00:38:27
Ryan
Yeah, I forget that guy's name, but Adam, I think maybe.
00:38:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, it's some basic name.
00:38:34
Ryan
Yeah.
00:38:35
the_popcorn_podcast
We're going to go.
00:38:35
Ryan
It's always just every once in a while they drop like a regular his name but Adam, Kevin, Jason.
00:38:39
the_popcorn_podcast
but
00:38:44
the_popcorn_podcast
um From scene. Yeah, from this scene we go back to Dragonstone where Renier goes to speak with Star Alfred who was one of the council members who had said that she can't be She shouldn't be making these decisions that they need Damon or they need someone else to be leaving this while she stays behind Renier tells him that he was correct about the army and that that she needs him to travel to Harrenhal, to try and reason with Daemon and see what his true intentions of all this, of taking Harrenhal, of being by himself, and all these decisions, what is it all truly for? Is he doing it for himself or is he doing it for Rhaenyra? And her only message that she has for Sera Alpha to actually give him is that she wishes for her and Daemon to finish their last conversation.
00:39:28
the_popcorn_podcast
Again, written. Emma Darcy. I love you. You're the best every scene I watch you in. Fantastic. um
00:39:37
Ryan
Nice. Yeah, you're in, dude.
00:39:39
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I'm a Darcy.
00:39:41
Ryan
Yeah, well done.
00:39:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Come on.
00:39:43
Ryan
Jesus.
00:39:46
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, I said she's a great actress. I don't know what is anything anything wrong.
00:39:49
Ryan
I don't know, man. I'm talking about a lot. um Yeah, but no, I mean, we're nearing me the right call to to get that guy off of the off of the council, but not just kick him out and like turn him against her, but give him something to do and something important. So I can't wait for him to get the Heron. Oh, because I know the second Damon sees him, he's going to be like, God fucking damn it, this asshole. What do you want?
00:40:14
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, I don't I don't think Sir Alpha is coming back to Dragonstone.
00:40:18
Ryan
i It's going to be great.
00:40:21
the_popcorn_podcast
um Dame is is then awakened as it looks like it's going to be another one of his dreams as we see someone moving towards his door. But instead is Lord Simon. And he's telling them that who this is the people of. The Riverlands, right, that are come that have come to see him.
00:40:38
Ryan
Yeah, I think so.
00:40:40
the_popcorn_podcast
That's why I think. Oh, my God. Stupid no set. Uh, yeah, and just something quick that I had in my notes is like a little thought of mine. That whole, it was very quick, but that little tracking shot of Damon walking through Harrenhal to lead him into the, to the main council room. Very simple, but it's very pretty. And I love the, not pretty, but very nice to look at. I just liked the whole set piece of Harrenhal. I like the dark colors. It's all wet. It's like a little dingy, but I don't know. It looked really cool and simple.
00:41:08
Ryan
Yeah, the heron hole just looks awesome in general.
00:41:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. And, uh, yeah. The Brackens, as we and ryan ed Ryan had talked about earlier, especially with Team Black, and this isn't really a warning, where this is and innocent's innocent people just being hurt. And we see that the Brackens, we well, we don't see, thank God, we hear that the Brackens have began pillaging the innocents and taking taking the women and the children.
00:41:30
Ryan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:41:33
the_popcorn_podcast
That's the Bracken. Blackwoods?
00:41:35
Ryan
blackwoods are doing that to the brack and
00:41:37
the_popcorn_podcast
Okay, so that's the Bracken people then that showed up.
00:41:40
Ryan
No, that's like other Riverlands people who are like, you can do you're doing this to them. Don't do this to us, dickhead. Stop.
00:41:48
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh.
00:41:49
Ryan
The Brackens are fucked. They're not going anywhere.
00:41:51
the_popcorn_podcast
Sorry, sorry, everyone. The Blackwoods have began pal pillaging and taking the women and children and killing the men.
00:41:58
Ryan
Yeah, which made me sad, dude.
00:41:59
the_popcorn_podcast
And you can.
00:42:00
Ryan
Because i like my boy Willem, I was so excited to let him let him go, spread his wings, do his shit. And goddamn, what did you do, man?
00:42:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Spreading your wings.
00:42:10
Ryan
You were such a nice little kid. He was so nervous asking Reneer to marry him and then he fucked up that asshole. And now look at him. He's pillaging and raping and kidnapping.
00:42:18
the_popcorn_podcast
ah
00:42:20
Ryan
It's terrible.
00:42:21
the_popcorn_podcast
And this is and again another really interesting scene because it look Damon doesn't seem like he has any idea about any of this Like this is all and you kind of see it that there's all these people that showed up to talk to him They're turning against him because they don't know
00:42:28
Ryan
Yeah.
Daemon's Descent into Madness
00:42:36
the_popcorn_podcast
They think, oh, you didn't know about this, sure you didn't. And the people are kind of turning against Damon and you see this as Damon's kind of losing himself a little bit as his whole scene continues. He sees his wife again, his ex-wife, his passed away wife. And you I mean, dead serious, like he looks like he's slowly losing his mind. And then when they do leave, he like leans against the the fireplace and all that. And to me, again, this is a little note I had, not to the extent of a homelander, Cause home later so far bad cause Damon does have, I feel like good in him.
00:43:10
the_popcorn_podcast
He just doesn't really show it that often. But I feel like we're getting to that point where like, Oh my God, what's, what is this all gonna, what is Damon going to eventually do? Like this is all building towards him doing something. And I, I, I kind of want to see what it is.
00:43:21
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, I think he's going to fuck up the Blackwoods because the Blackwood, I again, like I agree with you, like when when he was talking to the Blackwoods and trying to get the Black, the Brackens on their side and then, you know, they walked away and accepted death and, you know, the fight, whatever, which also we skipped that. That was a great scene, too. And that shot of the guy riding away on the horse with the dragon caraxes behind him. Oh, it's terrifying. But um the The Blackwood's biggest mistake is that they did all this with Targaryen banners. So, you know, I think it was kind of a misunderstanding on Willem's end. I didn't get that from Daemon when, you know, to do all of that. I think he was more so Daemon was more so saying, like, get them on your side or like marry somebody.
00:44:09
Ryan
to bracken, you know, get them on your side somehow. But I think Willem misunderstood it probably because of what Damon's done in the past and the type of guy that he's we know him to be to a point, but also rumored to be to a further point. We just fucked up bad. So I I think Damon is going to go and just destroy or at least retaliate against the Blackwoods to show that he didn't mean this mean for this to happen to kind of get more river lords on his side. But to your point of like a Homelander moment, I thought it was more of like a Tony Soprano moment.
00:44:41
Ryan
Like he's like, Jesus Christ, what did I do? He starts like passing out. I don't think it's a Homelander moment.
00:44:46
the_popcorn_podcast
okay yeah no i definitely go
00:44:48
Ryan
Yeah, I don't think it was a moment and he's going to like lash out and do some crazy shit. I think he's going to, you know.
00:44:56
Ryan
rationally attack somebody. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think he's going to lash out and go insane, but I think he's definitely going to retaliate at least a little bit to say, like, calm the fuck down. Show other people that this wasn't his idea, at least not all the way. Try to get some people back on his side or at least believing that he's not as ruthless as they think he is.
00:45:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Okay, yeah, no, I just
00:45:17
Ryan
But yeah, I took it. It looked more like a Tony Soprano, just like Jesus Christ, what happened? You know,
00:45:24
the_popcorn_podcast
but Yeah, no, I get what you mean then. um From there, we go back to King's Landing, and this is right outside the gate of King's Landing, on the opposite side of where we saw all the people from earlier in the episode. And we see this lady walking up in the pouring rain, and she goes to speak with one of the soldiers, and she says that she has a she needs to speak to someone, that it's about Masara, what is she called? Something from Masara?
00:45:49
Ryan
I don't remember something.
00:45:49
the_popcorn_podcast
A message from Masara.
00:45:50
Ryan
Yeah, sure thing.
00:45:51
the_popcorn_podcast
And he's like, I thought she had died, which of course she hasn't. So does that mean that most of King's Landing? Does that mean that the Red Keep think that she's dead as well?
00:46:01
Ryan
I mean, the Red Keith didn't really know who she was. Otto did. But I, like, Ayman to Aegon, I don't think they really knew who she was, because she was just kind of there with Daemon. So, yeah, but that's why the gold cloaks are still kind of loyal to her and Daemon, because obviously Daemon was in control of the gold cloaks.
00:46:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, that is true. Yeah.
00:46:21
Ryan
And, you know, really propped them up, made them what they are today, made them the big boys.
00:46:26
the_popcorn_podcast
I forgot.
00:46:26
Ryan
um So yeah, it's,
00:46:26
the_popcorn_podcast
i Dude, I completely forgot about Damon being in charge of the gold cloaks.
00:46:30
Ryan
Yeah, so it's it's again, like I said earlier, it's it's awesome to say they still are kind of on, maybe not the Black side, but at least Damon and Masaria's side, they're still kind of working for them. um So yeah, ah again, if that goes somewhere, it's going to be super cool, having like soldiers inside King's Landing. um Think people that the Greens kind of trust in to patrol the city and keep it under control. But if they're working for the Blacks, that could be really awesome.
00:46:59
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, that could cause a lot of violence and backstabbing and manipulating, which is when Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, I think, find its find itself at its peak when it's not. It doesn't have to be violence or like acting. I like when it's the backstabbing manipulation part of the show. So if if they do start leaning more into that, that's where I think the show's really.
00:47:17
Ryan
Yeah.
00:47:22
the_popcorn_podcast
Even though it's been great already, it can become in that conversation of best series out there.
00:47:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:47:28
the_popcorn_podcast
But from there, we see it's a very short scene. I think it's only a few seconds. We see Coolus there sitting on his throne, considering the decision of being the hand where back in King's Landing, we see Aemon staring at the throne as Helena asked him if it was was it all worth it, which is again just a quick scene. And from there, we go back to Dragonstone, so a couple of places in a few seconds. Jace has now returned and he wants to go to speak to Rhaenyra as Rhaenyra thanks him for his actions, but she still remains what at least Jace thinks is angry. And when he asks what this is all about, she goes on to talk about how she feels like she's done nothing on her part for this war. She keeps sending other people out to do things and that she just has to sit there and wait and not do anything.
00:48:12
the_popcorn_podcast
Which I mean, again, if you're in that position, you want to especially you want to help people. You don't want to send other people out and they die. You want to be there yourself and be able to help these people. And she's kind of since being the queen, she's in a weird predicament a little bit, not being able to help them. But.
00:48:28
Ryan
Yeah.
00:48:29
the_popcorn_podcast
ah
00:48:31
Ryan
Yeah.
00:48:31
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and then Renier tells Jace that eventually all this is going to have she's going to have to eventually fight Vega.
00:48:36
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:48:39
the_popcorn_podcast
That's what it's going to have to be her at some point. And she talks about, uh, what's her dog? What's it her dragon? Her dragon is.
00:48:50
Ryan
Cyrax.
00:48:51
the_popcorn_podcast
Thyrak. Okay. Thank you.
00:48:52
Ryan
Yeah. Who would get absolutely one-punched by Vhagar?
00:48:53
the_popcorn_podcast
Uh, oh yeah. Maley's words.
00:48:58
Ryan
wouldn't stand a chance.
00:49:01
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Like Maley's is a legendary dragon and well,
00:49:03
Ryan
Yeah. Mainly this was the the Black's biggest dragon and is dead now. Xerax is not that big.
00:49:08
the_popcorn_podcast
oh well, well, well.
00:49:12
Ryan
Yes, I understand the biggest controlled dragon. Yeah, so Caraxes is now, but like Jace says, they do have some wild dragons on on Dragon Zone with them.
00:49:14
the_popcorn_podcast
There you go.
00:49:22
Ryan
So i yeah yeah, living in the caves down just dwelling.
00:49:23
the_popcorn_podcast
Right underneath them.
00:49:27
the_popcorn_podcast
Verma Thor and Silverwing.
00:49:29
Ryan
Yes. Vermethor is the one that Damon went and found last season.
00:49:33
the_popcorn_podcast
Great scene. One of the best scenes in the show.
00:49:35
Ryan
It is cool.
00:49:36
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, yeah, and of course, Silverwing. And those are two dragons that can stand up to Vhagar. But again, Reneer tells me, he's like, yes, but it doesn't mean anything.
00:49:43
Ryan
Yeah.
00:49:45
the_popcorn_podcast
We don't have riders.
00:49:47
Ryan
Yeah.
00:49:48
the_popcorn_podcast
And then Jace is like.
00:49:49
Ryan
Vega is still bigger.
00:49:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, but it's you.
00:49:51
Ryan
Vermethor is second behind Vega.
00:49:53
the_popcorn_podcast
But having to the second and third biggest dragon really helps you fight the biggest dragon.
00:49:57
Ryan
Yeah, it'd be pretty cool.
00:49:58
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Um, Jace says, well, why don't we give rain? Yeah, that he does say rain on the scene. He's like, we could give Reyna a chance. He's like, no, no. Do you not remember what happened last time with all that? She almost lost her life. And then Jace starts thinking and Jace, again, showing that he really
Jace's Growth and Strategic Thinking
00:50:15
the_popcorn_podcast
is maturing. He's becoming more of an important piece in all this. Is that he's like, well, he's like, there's, there's some master, a Tarly. He's like, we could try and get them with a dragon. and so Instead of just having them sit there and gain dust, not do anything about it, it could help them.
00:50:28
Ryan
Mm hmm.
00:50:33
the_popcorn_podcast
And again, I want to say, quote, I lay wrote at the end of all these notes.
00:50:35
Ryan
No.
00:50:36
the_popcorn_podcast
I said, I do not like this decision. I, cause you are breaking all these rules that even though it is valerian history and all that, these rules, these notes, these stories, they were all put into a place for a reason.
00:50:46
Ryan
Mm
00:50:51
the_popcorn_podcast
Even if we don't know if they actually are true, because some of the stuff is just stories.
00:50:51
Ryan
hmm.
00:50:55
the_popcorn_podcast
But again, this episode then ends. With Reneer, we get more of a close-up shot, Reneer, and she says, it is a mad thought, which then fades out. The camera pans out and then fades to black.
00:51:08
Ryan
Yeah.
00:51:08
the_popcorn_podcast
Ending episode five of House of the Dragon, season two.
00:51:11
Ryan
Wow. Thank you so much. um Yeah, I can't wait. I mean, how are they going to find all these people, too? Are they just going to like send letters and you'd be like, hey, if you want to come to Dragonstone for the dragon sweepstakes, you might die. But if you get a dragon, be pretty cool.
00:51:28
the_popcorn_podcast
Congratulations, you've become my mother famous employee.
00:51:29
Ryan
Yeah, you've won.
00:51:32
Ryan
Yeah.
00:51:34
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, but they, uh, we then get our little look into what's coming, coming forward in house of dragon. And we see that they are going to attempt the idea. They, we don't know who is attempting at it. We just know that they are going to go forward with this. Jason tells her in the era that they do, they are, they need Damon in this.
00:51:48
Ryan
yeah
00:51:52
the_popcorn_podcast
This cannot be done. They cannot win without Damon. And then my last note in all caps is big ass dragon, which I did think was silver wing.
00:52:00
Ryan
Yeah, it's over with.
00:52:01
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. And yeah, I just heard big ass dragon, which was a really cool shot, which then it cuts to a shot of Rhaenyra looking absolutely terrified, which was really cool. So, you know, she's just scared of the dragon or the dragon does something, which is what I'm hoping more happens.
00:52:10
Ryan
Yeah.
00:52:16
the_popcorn_podcast
I want to see the dragon.
00:52:16
Ryan
Yeah, it's going to be interesting who they get over there because obviously, you know, the guy that we've been following for the entire season so far here and there with Hugh and King's Landing being a supposed bastard of Jaehaerys. It'll be interesting because Firmethor was Jaehaerys' dragon, so that could help him out a little bit of his son there. But yeah, it's gonna be tough finding people with Targaryen blood just in general, especially when it comes to bastards like Hugh.
00:52:47
Ryan
I don't know how they're gonna find him, but I guess i guess we'll find out. and he's
00:52:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, because they don't even, they don't have to be bastards. They could just be at some point a Targaryen married someone.
00:52:56
Ryan
Yeah.
00:52:56
the_popcorn_podcast
Now that person has a slither of that blood in them still.
00:52:59
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, it's like Rhaenys.
00:53:00
the_popcorn_podcast
It is interesting.
00:53:01
Ryan
Rhaenys wasn't, she was half Baratheon, so it doesn't have to be a full Targaryen blood like they usually are.
00:53:04
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:53:10
Ryan
I mean, Jace writes a dragon.
00:53:10
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:53:11
Ryan
He's he's a strong.
00:53:12
the_popcorn_podcast
It doesn't even have the white hair.
00:53:13
Ryan
Didn't even have a white hair. Luke had one. Yeah. Which also Rainey's doesn't in the books. They changed that. She has black hair.
00:53:20
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, they change it for the show. But again, yeah, so I mean, what do we got? We got this isn't this is nine episodes.
00:53:30
Ryan
Eight.
00:53:31
the_popcorn_podcast
This is only eight.
00:53:32
Ryan
got Yeah, we got three left. I've been saying this every fucking time.
00:53:36
the_popcorn_podcast
I think I don't know why I think it's nine.
00:53:36
Ryan
We have three left.
00:53:37
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought it was only one last episode then, because it was 10 last year last season, right?
00:53:40
Ryan
No. Yeah.
00:53:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I think just my head, it was only one. Damn. That means we only got three episodes left.
00:53:50
Ryan
Yeah. We're almost there.
00:53:53
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, I mean, all in all, definitely just a good show with a very good episode and just what has been so far, um what in my opinion, at least a very good season that I think has a chance to be just as good, even better than the first season, which will be really hard because if I think season one so good that these last three would definitely have to be like great, great, great episodes. But you never know.
00:54:16
Ryan
Yeah.
00:54:17
the_popcorn_podcast
It could be. No one thought season six was that great. Six in Game of Thrones isn't the best season. But definitely jumped on a lot of those ranks at the final two episodes, which are considered two of the best episodes of the show.
00:54:26
Ryan
I mean, yeah. But also, season one of this show was fantastic. So I don't think season two is going to beat that. i umm I'm not enjoying season two as much because there's just not as much going on, in my opinion.
00:54:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Whoa, whoa, season two is very.
00:54:44
Ryan
It's good. It's definitely good. But I think season one was better as a whole.
00:54:49
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and I just think that being able to do the time jump so well and in the same season. I don't know. I feel like it gives it even more like, wow, what a great season because I could have went so poorly so quickly and it could have ruined the season, but it doesn't.
00:54:59
Ryan
Yeah.
00:55:04
Ryan
Yeah.
00:55:05
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah.
00:55:05
Ryan
It feels like there was just more going on in season one, especially character-wise.
00:55:05
the_popcorn_podcast
um
00:55:10
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and it's a little it definitely had to be more fast paced because they only had so many episodes of each side of the time jump.
00:55:10
Ryan
I feel like that's...
00:55:14
Ryan
Yeah.
00:55:17
Ryan
Yeah.
00:55:17
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah. um From here, Ryan, what is your what's your recommendation of the week for everyone?
00:55:23
Ryan
um Let's think about it for a second. I'm going to go Air Bud, the baseball one.
00:55:30
the_popcorn_podcast
There's a baseball air button movie.
00:55:32
Ryan
I don't know, but I bet there is.
00:55:34
the_popcorn_podcast
I've never watched a single air button movie.
00:55:36
Ryan
ah Neither am I. Zero Dark Thirty is good, too. Zero Dark Thirty, that's a fun one.
00:55:40
the_popcorn_podcast
What a jump.
00:55:44
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, no, those are good choices. I've never seen an airboat, but I can vouch for an arc thirty.
00:55:47
Ryan
thank You think there's an air blood zero dog there in any movie? He joins the Americans or some shit.
00:55:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, man.
00:55:52
Ryan
Navy SEALs.
00:55:53
the_popcorn_podcast
That's a Michael Bay movie right there.
00:55:57
the_popcorn_podcast
I'm going to recommend Me Before You with Amelia Clark and Sam Clavin.
00:56:04
Ryan
Okay.
00:56:04
the_popcorn_podcast
Nice romance movie. Very sad.
00:56:07
Ryan
You're not going to do the one with the her and Kristen Cole.
00:56:07
the_popcorn_podcast
Genuinely.
00:56:10
Ryan
Fabian, what's his name?
00:56:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, I forgot that they're in a movie together.
00:56:15
Ryan
Yeah.
00:56:16
the_popcorn_podcast
I mean, the reason I went with the Mila Clark is I'm watching Game of Thrones right now. I'm watching Beyond the Wall, the penultimate to season seven.
00:56:22
Ryan
Okay.
00:56:23
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, I loved me before you. I just rewatched it, actually. like I mean, it's probably been over a year now. Genuinely a great romance movie and generally a very good just movie. Sam Klaffen, so charismatic in that movie. Mila Clark, just a sweet character. Yeah, very good movie, highly recommend. And also go buy NCAA football 25. So much fun. Already made $40 million. dollars And it's been out for like one day.
00:56:50
Ryan
yeah
00:56:52
Ryan
It's very impressive. I'll get it Friday, I guess.
00:56:55
the_popcorn_podcast
Did you see how many people were playing 768,000 people replying?
00:56:57
Ryan
Yeah, $700,000.
00:57:02
Ryan
That's before the actual game came out. That was just the repurchases.
00:57:05
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. And yeah, it's just like the presale.
00:57:09
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:09
the_popcorn_podcast
which I'm very happy I got to do, because it let me get ahead of everyone. But I will say today, the servers, because the game's like out now, the servers are just struggling the whole time. I mean, they went down, but they did, suppose they already added a bunch of servers today, because I think they were like, okay, I thought it would take a little bit longer.
00:57:19
Ryan
Yeah, I'm sure.
00:57:27
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:27
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, it's insane.
00:57:28
Ryan
And that's also just people who were online at that time. I'm sure there were plenty of people who were A weren't playing or B were playing offline with friends or something like that.
00:57:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:57:36
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, no, if you play with friends, that's online.
00:57:39
Ryan
No, I meant like, like split screen.
00:57:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, like locals, like in their house plan.
00:57:41
Ryan
Yeah.
00:57:43
the_popcorn_podcast
Dude, I saw a thing today. It was like a tweet. It was like, it was like, it's 4 p.m. You just ordered some pizzas, had some Mountain Dew, you and the friends hanging out, playing college football. You're, I was like, the parents don't care how late you stay up. It's like, you're 43 years old and it's 2024. If football's back, baby.
00:58:01
Ryan
he yeah
00:58:02
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, no, it's definitely fun. But yeah, that is all for this week's episode. Speaking of houses, episode five of the house of the dragon and I'm Tommy. That's Ryan. Thank you guys for the continued support of the show. And thank you guys for the continued support of our baseball video and all of the other videos that have been doing really well recently. And yeah, next episode will be our review of Osgood Perkins newest film, long legs. And then after that, we'll be doing a two part episode of the boys, uh, found two episodes.
00:58:27
Ryan
Hell yeah. Yeah.
00:58:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Right.
00:58:32
Ryan
Yep.
00:58:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, that forgot tomorrow's tomorrow's finale at the time recording. But yeah, thank you guys so much for tuning in.
00:58:37
Ryan
Yeah.
00:58:39
the_popcorn_podcast
And of course, Ryan, you get the final say in every episode of the show. And what what do you want to leave everyone with today? What knowledge do you
00:58:45
Ryan
Listen to the Long Legs episode. That's it. Bye.