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Making Your Mark By Murder - Barry S1E1 Deep Dive
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Jo and Amelie dive deep into Barry's pilot episode, exploring how Bill Hader transforms from SNL comedian to complex hitman-turned-actor. We break down everything from Henry Winkler's perfect casting as Gene Cousineau to the brilliant way Barry stumbles into acting class while on a hit. Plus, Amelie brings fresh insights about the show's portrayal of LA's grittier side and the perfect musical moment with "Journal of Ardency." From the opening kill to the final scene in the cafe, we examine how this pilot episode earned its perfect critical scores and set up one of HBO's best dark comedies.
Show highlights:
- Barry's transition from Midwest hitman to LA actor
- The Chechens and NoHo Hank's introduction
- Sally Reed's iconic acting class scene
- Gene Cousineau's teaching methods
- The episode's perfect bookend structure
- Bill Hader's directorial achievements
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Transcript
00:00:01
Speaker
hey everyone joe here that's so weird to use my own name and amelie amelie and joe it oh together again amelie and joe hello for the stream and demons we're doing berry season one episode one a lot of ones and i think this one's called make your mark i believe boom and we're gonna rain the stream and demons hit it
00:00:24
Speaker
and
00:00:30
Speaker
Good enough. ah He didn't want to see me dancing. How dare you. Oh, I do. i do want to see you dancing. oh we're supposed to use different voice. I was supposed to use my real voice. What was my real voice again?
00:00:42
Speaker
i I sent you my real voice yesterday and I forgot. a I
00:00:48
Speaker
i know. Bravo. Bravo. Who are you? What's your name? Where you from? Slim Shady. I don't know anymore. don't know anymore. don't.
00:00:59
Speaker
I don't. What was it? You he actually told me it good voice to you. It was a I'll try something. I'll try it as we talk. So we're doing A deep dive. If you have never seen Barry in your life, now is the time to go away because we're going to spoil the shit out of Barry. Season one, episode one is from 2019, I think, or 18, hike, something like that.
00:01:23
Speaker
It's a different time for the rebel, or sorry, rebel rebellions. No, I was watching Andor all fucking day yesterday, so my bad. Yeah, if you haven't seen Barry, just go away.
00:01:34
Speaker
There's other podcasts for you. This ain't it. If you've seen Barry and you've got some, like, you know, interesting things. This is your podcast. We're going to talk about some stuff today. So Amelie, first of all, how are you doing?
00:01:47
Speaker
I'm doing great. You are. dont you I love that t-shirt. Your t-shirt is like you're modeling the shirt from a place that I'm definitely going to buy one day. And that will probably piss the guy off when he hears.
00:02:02
Speaker
I'm joking. Impossible. I know. Impossible. So the place is in Prague. It's called Bohemia Bruzenbord. If you come to Prague, please go to Krimska Street in Bohemia Bruzenbord. It's a ballgame cafe where you can find Czech ballgame, German ballgame, American ballgame, and people speak English. They all speak English very well. Very well. The interesting thing is you can meet people from all around the world, traveler, expats, student,
00:02:34
Speaker
and locals who do speak English or people who are local who want to speak English. So the interesting thing about this board game is the owner, Doug, who is an American, has been living in Prague for the past 30 years.
00:02:48
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So he wanted to create a place where people who are locals come and play. But he also helped young designers are Czech to play their game internationally wise.
00:03:01
Speaker
Like, for example, we have designers from Germany, designers from East Europe, designers from America, Australia who come, drink beer and play some games. And I'm a part of this group. It's just's very interesting because it starts with piece of paper pieces of paper, yeah slowly, slowly with design, carton and boxes.
00:03:19
Speaker
And at the end, you see the 3D prototype, world design with all the cards and the tokens. It's really interesting. Yeah, I think you took me there before. yeah right yeah Yeah, it was was a great place. It really was a great place. And I think places like that need to exist because not only for the commodity of playing games together, but for people who are creating games themselves, it has a great service because it allows people to like play test. And like as you said, like this this piece of paper is going to be like $1.25.
00:03:51
Speaker
This piece of paper is like your night card, but it just starts off as papers papers and pens, and it becomes something tangible. I don't have any games, right? I do. It comes with something tangible like Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure game later on.
00:04:06
Speaker
That's an oldie. Yeah, so I like that. It's a fantastic place to yeah want meet people because they do gaming nights. You can be a solo traveler coming by and play some cards.
00:04:20
Speaker
Or for example, you're lonely when you go to a different country because of your study, work, or whatsoever. And it's a fantastic place to date. I personally like when my dates take me to a board game to play some card game or solo game just to get to know them, you know, and they serve an amazing mac and cheese.
00:04:41
Speaker
They do. They really do. I like that very much, though. And so by taking a chance and going out someplace that you don't really find naturally, I think that's what brings Barry's season one, episode one into focus for us.
00:04:56
Speaker
Because like that gaming place, Barry finds himself as a hitman following his mark into an actor's studio. It's a fish out of water.
00:05:08
Speaker
Yes. Yes, it's a man who is very solo, who live a very secluded life. He's lonely. He just follow his routine. And one day he follow his targets and boom, he discovers a world of school play with a group of people wanting to include him.
00:05:27
Speaker
He will play and become a different character. So yeah, you're right. Yeah, and it's it's weird because if you look at the ah technical Hollywood story where it's going to be like this, I'm a Midwestern person moving out to LA to be in the movies.
00:05:44
Speaker
That's what Barry does. Barry is actually from the Midwest. I think that's the first time he really tells the truth in episode one or two. He's like, i'm I'm from the Midwest. And he's trying to connect with the girl there.
00:05:58
Speaker
But that is the that there's always the story. Like the the person that came off the the bus to go to Hollywood or like even Axl Rose coming off the bus to be part of Guns or actually but something before that, but eventually Guns N' Roses.
00:06:13
Speaker
So you you have this Midwestern small townness of Barry going into the big city, probably for the first time, really trying to be himself or finding who himself is.
00:06:25
Speaker
And you you see this through the lens of ah normal life, you know, a normal day of the life where just him killing someone. And him trying to kill, like the Chessians come in and as they want to kill ah one of the actors, like Ryan, because he's having sex with the guy's wife.
00:06:43
Speaker
Correct. You know, and Barry's like, what was that line? Like ah I can stab in the nuts. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what ah is really interesting about Barry. It's un-cinematographic, you know, yeah it's not beautifully polished.
00:06:58
Speaker
He's a dude from the Midwest. He asked to kill a guy. So he made the Chechen. He doesn't take the plane. has to take a car. And when he's found himself in the parking lot, it's a whole bit of beat up car he has to drive. So it's not a beautiful Mercedes like you can see.
00:07:14
Speaker
He's stuck on traffic. He swears. He's not beautiful. He goes to the Chechen and the Chechen are like, okay, this is a guy, etc. What do you need? Well, for the payment you see with Dukes, tell me the address, the name, and within two days, he's going to be killed. he's killed That's all. Yeah. Do you need some personal touch? Like, for example, I can kick him in the nuts. They were like, what?
00:07:37
Speaker
No, just kill the dude. That's all. And you have the second scene when he's in the car and he received the gun in FedEx. like yeah It's just a job for him. So he follow him. There's nothing glamorous. It's hot.
00:07:50
Speaker
He's bored. And he just see these people who are welcoming the teacher. He comes in a beautiful car. It's an empty parking, but he has a two orange cones to welcome him. People come, run to him, give a cup of coffee, look at it, well, whatever.
00:08:08
Speaker
He came out of his car. I don't remember why. i think he followed him. And he hear one of the actress screaming, go fuck yourself, you fucking moron, you fucking piece of shit, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:20
Speaker
I don't know if he's ready to fight or if he's expecting to see her fighting maybe the actor. I don't know. But he's surprised to realize, oh, it's just a woman reading a piece of paper.
00:08:32
Speaker
Where the fuck? Where the fuck are you? Where fuck are you? And he's like, what? And it whirlwinds through. You know, but that's the thing. I think he's he's trying, he's a Midwestern dude, even though he's a killer.
00:08:44
Speaker
heard a woman cry for help. She's like, he's probably going to fucking go in kill someone. And then finds out it's just acting. itgainst This whirlwind threw up into it. And I'm glad you brought up about the car.
00:08:56
Speaker
And that's the funny thing about a lot of the spy movies, we'll say, and stuff like that. They always had the fanciest car driving 1,000 miles an hour. But I think a different show, Burn Notice, Sam X,
00:09:10
Speaker
which be bruce campbell's character kind of said it right like you drive the speed limit because if you don't you get run the risk of being pulled over anyone who's had drugs in their car knows you drive the fucking speed limit you you have an unassuming car a piece of shit you drive the fucking speed limit and that's it you don't speed you don't swear you don't get anything to be like on the cop's radar right and by him driving that car it looks like any other car in the world Correct.
00:09:39
Speaker
Driving slow. I like about that theory because you can see poverty because from the perspective of French, whenever we see America, we see women with fake teeth, people who are beautiful, beautiful beach.
00:09:53
Speaker
We see people who are really rich. So America came across like rich, clean and even if even a little bit too perfect. Right. right But there you see Barry, who is bald. It's cold. It's too hot. There is a traffic.
00:10:06
Speaker
The building are not Very beautiful. Everybody struggled. Everybody is broke. You see his flat. His flat is really, really, really sad. Pretty basic. i well seen Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:19
Speaker
And yeah, there is nothing glamorous. You know, it's not Hollywood Hollywood. And I really like that scene when he struck on traffic because whenever you watch a series, they're always driving.
00:10:30
Speaker
Even the police, they put the siren and bim bada boom. In two minutes, they're in the the crime scene. Yeah. Impossible, you know, impossible. That's the imperfection and the poverty and the ugliness of it will make me watch that theory because it's really, really cool to see.
00:10:46
Speaker
Well, I'm glad you like it because that reminds me of when I first moved to Vegas, I had this place that was all furnished and it looks like his damn apartment. Like, oh my God, like that's the, that's the piece of shit run down place.
00:11:00
Speaker
My place had the, the drug dealer was part of the tour. We were like, oh, this is the laundry room. Here's the pool area. And this person, he was wearing, it was a black dude wearing a giant, giant cowboy hat, like just oversized cowboy hat and like a vest. And he had two girls on both sides of them.
00:11:20
Speaker
And it was like, and this is the um the party favor person. I'm like, great. He's always right here. like She's like, yeah, he's always right here. But actually, this kind of person can give you the best place to find a job.
00:11:34
Speaker
Also, the best place to eat a good burger that are really, really good people to be with. you need to be friend with them well you need to be i wasn't gonna piss off the drug dealer pimp on my first day in vegas i think be poor advice to do it anyways but yeah you you should be friendly and you know it's like you know it's a new place but that's what you see you have buried you see that part of l la you you see the real part of l la where it's not just a hollywood glamour it's not the old forum or a new staple center where it is now it's it's the life of it and the people come to life and one of the moments i'm okay i'm asked this
00:12:09
Speaker
with your background coming from france have you ever seen happy days yes okay yes it's very well known is it okay the phone okay right so you've seen you've seen fonzie before so you see him coming back as like the the gene costado uh acting the acting teacher right you see him coming back it's really funny to see him because He's very well known, famous host in France, hewinler like just for the phones, like leather jacket, he's motorcycle and stuff like that. don't bring a sharp
00:12:44
Speaker
I know a little bit, for example, his co-partner, the co-star, the one who is Ginger, he's now a writer and scenarist and he's very, very well known and very respected for the actor who plays the phones.
00:12:59
Speaker
uh i was surprised to see him actually because we know just him for that as a fun that's all yeah and that's all yeah that's it and that's the thing i think there's not them that might be mistaken but he like henry wrinkler didn't do much i mean he was a fonds it was like really heavy try to get out of that role and it's good luck with that and so to see him as an adult like an adult as an elderly man now You know, and just being this version of himself that probably could have been if he wasn't more well-grounded. It's like he's playing him if things went wrong in his life. I'm not saying his life was great, but he's like playing him as like a twisted version of him.
00:13:44
Speaker
That's interesting about ah Happy Days is I watch so many documentaries about Happy Days. Yeah. And apparently the phones were supposed to be just a second character. the bully.
00:13:57
Speaker
a friend points that so, but he became really, really famous and they changed everything about the story. The main character should have been ginger guy. And then the ginger guy became slowly, slowly, slowly the second guy. You know what I mean?
00:14:12
Speaker
So I don't think he wanted to be famous. I think he must have played just to play, you know, yeah and was more interesting to be a writer or something else. Maybe he played in theater. I don't know. I didn't follow this career.
00:14:24
Speaker
But yeah, he's a good actor. He's a good actor. It's great to see because you already have Bill Hader, which we kind of knew from other things. And for me, this is the this is the Batman moment for Bill Hader. If you don't know the original.
00:14:38
Speaker
OK, I know. Adam West, I don't know him anymore. He's dead. But I know like Adam West was the first Batman on TV. We get that. But mean Michael Keaton, the first real movie, not the Bat movie, the the actual dark, dark movie from the Batman years.
00:14:55
Speaker
We see Michael Keaton transition from like Beetlejuice to Batman. And then we're seeing Bill Hader transition from SNL to a sociopath in Barry. Yeah, but he's still goofy in Paris. It's not just serious, serious, serious.
00:15:12
Speaker
He's very goofy. Because he's he's fleshed out. No one is just one thing. He's he's a fleshed out character. But it's his first, like, it's an honest to God drama role. Correct. Yes. Yeah, which i we know. It's it's the kind of like the sobering thing.
00:15:26
Speaker
And yes, I know Michael Keaton was in Clean Sober before Batman. I understand. i I live that history, motherfuckers. you don't have to leave a comment later on saying, you didn't see this movie. I saw in the theater. I think in Barry, Bill Adder has a slow transition into dark character, because even if it's a dark character and people and everything, there is this slow transition because it's still goofy sometimes. He's very funny. He plays the actor. He plays the actor who is a bad actor. He's a bad actor.
00:16:00
Speaker
You will see towards the theory. He's doing flashbacks and stuff like that and daydream. Okay, but keep those into the... No, no, no. Right? later on yeah You see what I mean? It kind of reminds me of SNL in some ways.
00:16:15
Speaker
Okay. You see what I mean? So it's a slow transition and it's a perfect transition. Yeah, it it really is. And we're going to talk about, you know, as we go through more episodes, we can always build on to the character arcs. And a lot of these, we start out as fresh characters. We're just being introduced to them.
00:16:33
Speaker
We don't know if Ryan's going to last a day or 12 days. We don't know if Gene's going to be there for a while or just, you know, in and out. And i love the idea of that he is a hitman who is so disillusioned with his job.
00:16:49
Speaker
It's kind of like, oh, I have to clean up some cat shit right now. Whatever. You know, it'd be me saying that to my cat. and Like, oh, he pooped on the floor. Okay, I'll go clean it up for you. No big deal. He's like, oh, I think I'll kill someone right now.
00:17:00
Speaker
Whatever. I guess. ah Maybe I get like Burger King on the way back. you know, he's just he's just like so pissed at it. Yeah, you're right. Especially for the first scene of the series. You see the guy coming out from the bathroom.
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah. The camera slowly turn towards the right. you see the man dead on the bed with a we've a a hole in his head. and he gets out of the hotel room, the music starts, you see him in the middle of a line in the plane with other people in economic, he's snoring, he's sleeping in his flat and his uncle wakes him up and he's like, hey, you need some some holiday, some sun, what about working with the Chechen in LA?
00:17:47
Speaker
And he's like, okay, you want me to work? like It's just like, like you say, it's an everyday job. but You just kill a guy, yeah, whatever. There is no emotion. There is no... No. and It's already detached. It's a dude who's already detached. And that goes along with his problem acting because he's having a problem connecting to anything emotional within himself.
00:18:08
Speaker
And so his actor, and you know, the Barry, the actor, is emotionally flat and Gene's just pissed at him. Which is weird because Gene makes money only if Barry joins the class. i mean like that No one's believing like his Gene's doing it out the goodness of his heart.
00:18:22
Speaker
Gene's doing it because he needs more money. And Barry's the next motherfucker that came off the bus. that's all that is right so you see that and you see the multi-faceted barrier where you see the berry who's the killer you see berry who's the struggling actor or somebody who's maybe trying to get into acting that's very scary and you see all of this and him just trying to be a person and not understanding how relationships work or him having a very naive version of what relationships are you see all this like a teenager yeah when you watch some scene
00:18:59
Speaker
I'm like, oh, he's just 13 years old in his head. He never had a group of friends. He never been to a school. It's a school. They're school friends. They're children, basically. They're adults, but mentally he's a children. He wants Mr. Kusuno to teach him.
00:19:14
Speaker
And there's this scene when when um he the female actress tried to play a scene when she's like, how dare you? I'm sick. How dare you?
00:19:28
Speaker
suck my dick and she repeat and she repeat mr coseno is like i don't feel it it's i don't feel it i don't feel the emotion and he turned to the public and he's like you know what she say to me oh please i want to be an actress and and you see barry who's like intrigued what is going on she intrigued you look like and she's like how dare you you have no right to oh i know what you did I need to use my negative energy too. And she turned it like you, how dare you? You can suck my dick. And she gave a fantastic performance. And here Barry's like, wow, that's fantastic.
00:20:03
Speaker
And he comes up on the scene, plays the scene like he just reads the paper and everybody applause and something just light on him. He's like, oh I'm good at that.
00:20:15
Speaker
Oh, I didn't know. And that's what's is interesting. I think Barry joined the school because he wants to feel emotion, because he wants to express himself, and at the same time, because he socially immature.
00:20:32
Speaker
We don't know what happened in his life. We don't know if he went to school. We don't know nothing about his childhood. Right? Right. But there I can see someone who who wants to be a teenager, who wants to to have school friends, go to the bar, talk to them. And hey, you're very good at it. Oh, really? You think I can be an actor? Yeah, you can be an actor just like us to be integrated into the group.
00:20:58
Speaker
A little bit like you know the special church. come to us be a part of a cult you know basically yeah yes well you have that you have that and and i believe sarah goldberg who who is the person you're talking about is Sally Reed.
00:21:16
Speaker
She does a remarkable job. I think everyone who's in the acting studio does a remarkable job because they're a professional actor is trying to either tap back to how they first started out or some kind of insecurity within themselves and kind of bringing it to the set so they can be the insecure person.
00:21:32
Speaker
They can show themselves. They're not this polished, product at this point, right? And you have that. And the same time, the Chechens are trying to get Barry to go like, dude, what the actual fuck?
00:21:44
Speaker
We paid you to kill the guy and not to hang out with him. Yeah. And there's this beautiful scene when he give a hug to Barry. He's like, what the fuck is going on? He needs to kill the dude.
00:21:56
Speaker
There's this scene in the bar I really like. That's my favorite scene of season one. She's talking Sally to
00:22:06
Speaker
to say, oh, that person she from there, that person she from there, and we all want to be actors and da da dee and da da da and patati and patata. And she goes dancing and there's this beautiful song and she's dancing with her friends. She's in slow motion and the song is perfect.
00:22:23
Speaker
And I really like it because you can see he's falling in love. She's very feminine and you hear feminine, feminine, feminine, and she's in slow motion and he's fine.
00:22:34
Speaker
And all a sudden you hear Barry, boom, boom, boom, Barry, boom, boom, boom, Barry, boom, boom, boom. And he came out of his daydream and it's his target.
00:22:45
Speaker
The guy he is supposed to kill, he's like, so Barry, what's your name? Who are you? And everything. Why are you here? barry Tell me more, Barry. And is' like it's just a beautiful transition.
00:23:00
Speaker
Like the music is great. The scene is great. And the boom, boom, boom. ah you just like it It snaps you through it through. It snaps it through like the TV set, you know, and that that's what we're going to And then those two end up together, like not like as a couple, but Barry and the guy who's sent to fucking kill, they've kind of become friends in a weird way to the point where Barry's like, what, giving ride home or some shit like that.
00:23:23
Speaker
I think like yeah, Barry drives Ryan home. You know, that's funny because the song they're using, it's named Journal of Ardency.
00:23:34
Speaker
And the word Ardency, I didn't know what it means. Ardency is the meaning of what the word means. Intense patient, enthusiasm or devotion. so And the group is named Actress.
00:23:47
Speaker
like Oh, really? ah Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a deep dive. oh Yeah, ah that song, the dance and everything is top notch. because it really means like I'm really in love with you and I don't know my feelings and it's really madness and then you turn to the guy who's like repeating his name, Target, and they are in the car.
00:24:08
Speaker
So he's driving but back home because apparently he had a lot of the UI and you see Sally Cummings like, hey, can you do me a favor, please? could you please take him back home because he has a lot of you guys. Thank you very much. And she comes to him and you think she's going to kiss him on the lips and she's like on the side. Oh yeah. That still stings by the way.
00:24:30
Speaker
Yeah, no, but you see that. And then we just having a human um moment with the guy who was trying to fucking kill. This is a perfect time to kill him. He's alone in the fucking car with him.
00:24:43
Speaker
You could drive him anywhere he wants. Just fucking kill him then. Yeah. But doesn't. It actually goes home and the guy gives him the hug and then Hank and his henchmen are like, what the actual fuck is this?
00:24:54
Speaker
And during the scene, he's like, hey, I want you to be my sin partner. You're really good and stuff. Oh, really? Why? Because you're very generous. And he was like, I'm very generous? Really?
00:25:05
Speaker
Yes, you're a very generous man. Yeah, yeah. And he gave him a hug and stuff and he's like, okay. And he goes out. And Evan and us, we're like,
00:25:16
Speaker
I didn't fault about him. Could kill him right now. I'm right right there. You know, I don't. So many fucking times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And then you got that. And then, the you know, the next morning, food you know, folks comes in and it's kind of like like, dude, you're a hitman who's not fucking killing his target.
00:25:33
Speaker
That means you're not hitman. What the actual fuck? You know, folks is kind of like this father character, but an abusive father, emotionally abusive father character. Right. Yeah, and he comes to like, oh, actually, we went to that bar and stuff and the group. What group?
00:25:46
Speaker
What bar? Wait, what? Yes, I really think I can be an actor, but you know, I want to be an actor, but without being an actor, I just want to be fun. And there's this guy, you know, I've got the book that I was like, Barry, Barry, Barry.
00:25:59
Speaker
What you do, it's killing. You kill for money. That's your purpose. You're good at that. You're really good at that. It's like, yeah, but what about it's okay. You want to have a hobby.
00:26:12
Speaker
Have a hobby. Yeah. Adolf Hitler used to paint. He was an excellent painter. Why don't you paint? You know what I mean? Go through all these little lobbies. But you still need to kill this motherfucker. yeah was Like that's exactly it. Like don't get close to the pig you're about to slaughter. Don't name him. Because the Chechen wants you to kill the person because they're thinking about take you out of the mission.
00:26:33
Speaker
And I don't like that. right and i think because you know if barry dies at this point that means fuchs is out of bunch of money because he doesn't barry is basically the prize cow at this point always doing the dirty work that fuchs can't do but fuchs is the pr guy gets the stuff in there and then this is yeah you notice um you open a bag and there is full of money and cash in his bag so you know he wants barry to be just for himself yeah and at the same time you're like wait, dude you have so many money. Why he didn't take a plane or better car or something like that? She doesn't know what I mean
00:27:07
Speaker
But it's not his money. It's actually Barry's money. that's the That's the thing. it's like It's like watching Leon the Professional, the movie. Yes. And you see Leon is just this naive hitman.
00:27:20
Speaker
And the guy's like, I'm holding your money for me, for you. here's Here's a couple of thousand dollars. like Like, holy shit. Like, no, you're basically stealing this guy's money. And sure, one day he might want it all back, but probably not.
00:27:33
Speaker
And it's like doling it out. It's basically pimp. It like fukes Barry's pimp. And it has the same insidious structure of being like the person who owes the money, person who gives the next job sometimes, and like the father figure that you never had.
00:27:48
Speaker
yes You know, it's the whole emotional fuckdom of it at all. And then later on, the emotional fuckdom when Barry's going to tell Gene he's not an actor, you know, he wants to try, he wants to try some stuff, and Gene's just like, you suck.
00:28:01
Speaker
You know, you you just can't fucking act at all. And then Barry has a moment of honesty and just basically tells Gene, like, I know he's a hitman, he fucking was a soldier and then he basically kills people for a living.
00:28:16
Speaker
And Jean assumes, because anyone says that to a park you in a parking lot, you would assume that they were just bullshitting and giving you an actor thing. This is the real monologue. Do you believe that?
00:28:28
Speaker
Because when I watch the scene yeah with Jean listening to Barry, I have a different point of view. I think he believes him.
00:28:41
Speaker
i think he believes him. I think, I think. I don't. i I think as I watched it the first time. I'm like, okay, watch again and I'm like, I'm still wondering from the point of view of someone who watched the series for the first time. right I was like, did he look at that guy and think he is ah soldier from Afghanistan?
00:29:10
Speaker
He lives very difficult time i'm bored with these monkeys of children i have every day right i want to work within because i want to work on something different i think you're reading a challenge i think you're reading too much into the character of gene gene's a very shallow dude gene's not that deep gene is just like i'm saying gene is henry wrinkler if something really bad happened to henry wrinkler's life Gene is just out for the money. He wants those monkeys.
00:29:39
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Remember, he's also the guy who can't get casted anywhere anymore because he's very volatile to everyone he's worked with. <unk>s He's a jerk off. like gene is There's not a lot of saving grace in Gene.
00:29:51
Speaker
Okay, so you think Gene don't believe Barry? Not one word. No, he doesn't he just thinks that Barry finally got balls to do an acting scene.
00:30:01
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and he And Gene probably would say like, oh, I remember how, okay, it's a mirror. It's a mirror. I'm squeaking my chair. It's a mirror judgment. ro Watch. Gene does the thing with Sally, right?
00:30:12
Speaker
And says Sally's a piece of shit. Then he's doing the whole thing, the boo-hoo-hoo thing. And it brings out like suck my dick, right? We framed that in the beginning. We recall, we call back, sorry, as I hit my mic, we call back to it later on when Gene thinks he's doing the same thing to Barry, except that Barry's telling the fucking truth.
00:30:33
Speaker
And Gene says, as Gene's like, oh, I did it again. Another Sally moment, pat myself in the back. um Do you see what I mean? Because it's actually a framing of a plot. Okay.
00:30:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's ah it's a bookend. Okay. See, you like to see the nicest part of people. yeah that's my problem i i know we've been friends for a while that is your problem oh 15 years 15 my fucking christ yes i'm drinking whiskey um la la thank you lee for the whiskey putting the good news man it's oh that was wrong pipe so we have this and after this is all going on And Barry is finally going to his class.
00:31:18
Speaker
Like he's going to be a real person in this class. He's got the money to pay for it, obviously. He's approaching Ryan's car. He's really going to say theys say, fuck it. I am a hit man, but I also could do this too.
00:31:30
Speaker
But let's just kill Ryan because that's what i have to do. He finds him already dead. And then no ho Hank. and his other guys try to kill Barry. And you just see, during the first part, we so kind of see that Barry killed someone. We assume Barry killed someone way before, when the episode first starts, right?
00:31:50
Speaker
But we don't really see him being violent. We don't see him really doing anything until this moment. He takes out his gun, very natural, pop, up pop, pop, pop. And he starts fucking shooting the instructions up. And it's a good scene. The K-Chain are one known to be the killers of the killers. They kill everyone. They're always in the wild. There's a mafia of the mafia.
00:32:10
Speaker
And there's a guy on the top of the car and there is no one who's like, no, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it, man. Don't do it. And he just take his gun slowly he and bang, bang. He just kill everyone.
00:32:24
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But boom, boom, boom. The end. After he just do U-turn. Walk slowly, grabs a gun, throws the gun away, yep um pom pom po po goes to a cafe, sits and you see the police coming in the background on the street and this lovely waitress goes like, hi, can I help you today?
00:32:46
Speaker
Well, do you have any whiskey or something strong? ah The strongest thing we have is just tea, something, something. oh I will take tea, something, something. And you notice some paper in our hands, like, excuse me, what is this?
00:32:58
Speaker
Oh, it's a script. Tomorrow I've got an audition. I'm an actress. He's like, oh, me too. Right. And that's how it ends. We start off with the guy killing, ends with him killing, but then goes in the world acting. Yeah, I really like the setup. And it it it reminds me the don't do it part.
00:33:16
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It reminds me of the new Daredevil season on Disney+, plus which if you haven't seen it, should absolutely watch the new Daredevil series. But this happens early on, so not much of a spoiler here.
00:33:28
Speaker
He's like, don't do it. please is He's just basically pleading with the bad guys not to fucking hit him. He just wants to be left to fuck alone. And that's what Barry is doing. He's just, don't fucking go for your gun. Don't try to kill me. I just want to be left to fuck alone.
00:33:43
Speaker
And they can't leave him alone, so he kills them all. All but one, I guess. I think, you know, no spoilers. Next week, no. ah But Hank lives. You know, obviously no whole Hank lives because that's actually the going into next season or next season, next episode.
00:33:57
Speaker
So yeah, overall, like what would you, would this episode alone make you want to watch rest of the show? Correct, yes, yeah definitely. Yeah, it's a strong fucking episode.
00:34:07
Speaker
It's perfect. It's perfect. Like, it's a five out of five. Like, i really like it. It's the first episode is great. It's full of little details. It's everything is set up from the group, from the family background, from the killing situation.
00:34:24
Speaker
Like everything is set up and I like it. Yeah, everything. And you said five out of five and critics agreed with the episode is they gave it a five out of five. Like Vulture gave it a five out of five. AV Club, so it was amazing.
00:34:39
Speaker
Like all these hard critics gave it tremendous awards and they should have, they should have. This came out in 2018. That was a long, long time ago, 2018. ah eight My gosh.
00:34:52
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But the the cool thing is, For the episode, Beryl Hyder wins the Directors Guild of America's Award for Outstanding Directorial Achievements, and I'm by myself now. So, I guess Emily had to leave, but that's okay. We're done with the episode.
00:35:07
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All this and more coming up on the next Streaming Demons with my co-host as she pops back. We are going to do 2. Episode 2 of Barry Season 1.
00:35:19
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So all this next week. See you then. Bye. Like and subscribe. If you like Barry, go for it. We're doing deep dives in Barry. We're still doing other stuff for streaming demons as well.
00:35:30
Speaker
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00:35:38
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