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Top 10 Non-Exorcist Possession Films: From Puppet Masters to White Castles
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Join Jim Phoenix and J.M. Brannyk on this hilariously haunted episode of Streamin’ Demons as they rank their Top 10 Non-Exorcist Possession Films—from cult classics like Puppet Master and Prince of Darkness to wildcards like Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle. Expect possession without the priests, body-hopping demons, cursed prom dresses, and a whole lot of wiggle talk.
💀 Featuring:
- Fallen with Denzel Washington
- The Autopsy of Jane Doe
- My Best Friend’s Exorcism
- Jennifer’s Body
- Evil Dead
- ...and yes, even Harold & Kumar (because sliders = spiritual need)
Plus: behind-the-scenes chaos, Haunted MTL rebranding updates, upcoming projects, and the tease of a Bruce Campbell-a-thon.
👻 Weird? Check. Possessed? Double check.
🎧 Hit play, get spooky, and let the wiggle begin.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Theme
00:00:01
Jim Phoenix
Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here, and today we've got a spectacular thing. We've got top 10 non-exorcist possession films. That's right. We all know that Exorcist probably hits the top 10 mark no matter where.
00:00:13
Jim Phoenix
So we're doing a top 10 non-exorcist profession films. I'm not tired.
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box
professions.
00:00:20
Jim Phoenix
You're tired. Damn it.
00:00:22
box
It's a profession of possession.
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Jim Phoenix
Possession
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Jim Phoenix
the master of producers, the doodles and the possessions of the professions. All this more on this stream of demons hit my musics.
00:00:34
Jim Phoenix
I guess our music. I don't own the music. Actually, you made the music.
Podcast Music and Light Conversation
00:00:38
Jim Phoenix
Damn.
00:00:38
box
I did make the music.
00:00:39
Jim Phoenix
You're you did. You make beautiful musics.
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box
Thank you.
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Jim Phoenix
Do, do, do. Stop playing the strong band.
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box
It's time for everyone to dance.
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Jim Phoenix
Let that wiggle. Hey.
00:01:00
box
Get your wiggles out.
00:01:03
box
No, no, not that wiggle. Put that back in.
00:01:05
Jim Phoenix
but that would go a
00:01:20
Jim Phoenix
Don't we all? Damn it. Yeah.
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box
Don't we all?
00:01:23
Jim Phoenix
yeah And boxing, you know, the funny thing is, was like, thank you.
00:01:24
box
long did that take you? How long did that take?
Main Topic Introduction: Non-Exorcist Possession Films
00:01:28
Jim Phoenix
That clip comes from the, was Bloody Mary's Exorcist?
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box
and Yeah, but oh, is that why we're doing Exorcist movies?
00:01:34
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the because of the clip. Yeah, that's exactly why. Not because i was like, what the fuck can we do? Because you want to talk about dicks.
00:01:43
box
I did. i said i have a lot of movies that I could talk about dicks and horror where dicks are a theme and a You know, a genre.
Humorous Exploration of 'Dick Horror'
00:01:54
Jim Phoenix
Get Felicia Rose for that if you want.
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box
Horror dick.
00:01:55
Jim Phoenix
But I think I even might say, oh, that's a great idea.
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box
Dick horror.
00:01:59
Jim Phoenix
And I was trying to think, like why does say this a great idea? I don't even know fucking any dick films. What the fuck's wrong with me? was like, what?
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box
Oh, Jim.
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Jim Phoenix
No.
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box
Oh, Jim, you you have so much to learn about dick horror.
00:02:12
Jim Phoenix
Dick whores? Yes. i but I'm from Vegas.
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box
Dick horror.
00:02:15
Jim Phoenix
I know all about the dick whores. Trust me.
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box
Dick horror.
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Jim Phoenix
so Trust me.
Upcoming Guests and Future Podcast Seasons
00:02:20
Jim Phoenix
If you're new to the show, this is season four. Holy shit.
00:02:23
box
I'm so sorry. Yeah, if you're new, I'm sorry.
00:02:24
Jim Phoenix
Shit. Season four. We actually have Terry Reed coming up this season. I said that last season for this season.
00:02:31
box
you did say that.
00:02:31
Jim Phoenix
So I wasn't lying. Yeah. I was this like, next season, I'll tell you.
00:02:33
box
swear you've... I swear, like, it keeps getting out season after season, like, soon.
00:02:38
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. And soon. I just have to get the right. What you think? Like the top Terry Reed movies for horror?
00:02:45
box
ah ah wo that would be great.
00:02:46
Jim Phoenix
She wasn't enough of them. Yeah.
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box
she
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Jim Phoenix
I mean, she.
00:02:48
box
Oh, yeah, she's definitely in enough of them.
Discussion on Screeners and Notable Actors
00:02:50
Jim Phoenix
Cool. Maybe that man would just pitch that and So normally box and I will either take new, new, new stuff from screeners, but let's, let's face it. I Jimbo was tired.
00:03:01
Jim Phoenix
I'm so sorry. I got two screeners.
00:03:01
box
I'm tired too.
00:03:03
Jim Phoenix
Thank you. Shutter and other shutter arrow, I guess. suter another Shutter and other shutter.
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box
and but
00:03:10
Jim Phoenix
i don't, i don't remember the other studios name right now.
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box
And I didn't get it.
00:03:14
Jim Phoenix
I'm so sorry. That's how tired I am.
00:03:15
box
Uncorked. That's one that we've seen.
00:03:17
Jim Phoenix
Uh, so And they're really great screeners.
00:03:18
box
Oh.
00:03:19
Jim Phoenix
I mean, they're things that I'm like, holy shit, i really want to watch that. Like, one's got a Skarsgård in it.
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box
fool
00:03:26
Jim Phoenix
Like, the youngin Skarsgård.
00:03:29
box
Is that the one with Anthony Hopkins and they're in a car?
00:03:31
Jim Phoenix
Yeah! Did you get that one, too?
00:03:34
box
No, I want that one, though.
00:03:35
Jim Phoenix
Oh, my bads? that's I guess I'm like, god I can't read, I can't watch this one.
00:03:39
box
No, I saw that. I saw that. I'm like, what is going on in this movie? They're just driving around and it's scary.
00:03:48
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, it's like fucking Nick Frost in Black Cab, man.
00:03:48
box
That's that.
00:03:50
box
Ooh.
Idea for Final Destination Podcast
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box
We should do, I'm saying this on air, but we should do Final Destination movies because of Tony Todd because the next one's coming up and Tony Todd is in that one.
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Jim Phoenix
Driving?
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Jim Phoenix
Oh.
00:04:01
box
RIP.
00:04:01
Jim Phoenix
Is he really? Fucking, he's dead.
00:04:03
box
He was in like all of them.
00:04:04
Jim Phoenix
It's like, wait, do these shoot before?
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box
Or something.
00:04:09
Jim Phoenix
are they rehashing?
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box
Yes.
00:04:10
Jim Phoenix
Is it Carrie Fisher?
00:04:11
box
no No, no, no, This is a new movie.
00:04:11
Jim Phoenix
Or is it kind of like a?
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box
This is like, actually, it's very cool. It's about a family who like cheated death like a long time ago. And now, like, death is coming to try to get them all.
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box
anum And it looks really, it looks fun. It looks like a barrel of fun.
00:04:30
Jim Phoenix
of monkeys. Oh, did you watch the monkey?
00:04:34
box
Yeah, I did.
00:04:35
Jim Phoenix
Okay. So yeah, I didn't, uh, I was, was, I was, we could have,
00:04:37
box
I did. I said I was going to write about something, but we're going to put a pin in that because Jim's going to say something about that later. Yeah.
Site Shutdown and New Magazine Announcement
00:04:44
Jim Phoenix
I'll say it now because I'll forget shit. So I hope you all enjoyed Haunted MTL because long story short, I'm i'm nuking this site, guys. I'm sorry. like
00:04:54
box
Yeah, so long. suck
00:04:56
Jim Phoenix
I've got way too many creative things.
00:04:56
box
My opus was on there.
00:04:57
Jim Phoenix
and Yeah, it was sad to go. Sad to see. We're rebranded as Haunted Empty Hell because you actually say the letters out MTL. It says empty hell.
00:05:09
box
Yeah.
00:05:10
Jim Phoenix
Hell's empty. All the devils are here. That's going to be the tempest. And the new logos and stuff like that, they'll come out soon. But the end of this month, March, is our last month to be online for the website itself.
00:05:16
box
It's scarier.
00:05:21
Jim Phoenix
It's still going to exist as the kind of an archive for a little bit. But we're going to put our focus on the magazine, will be... Calgary's Curiosities, which would be quarterly magazine where I got some stuff coming out with that short stories and some
New Podcast Announcement: Combo Box 2.0
00:05:37
Jim Phoenix
drawings. And i've I've got short comics from people that contribute to us before former staff.
00:05:45
Jim Phoenix
I got short comics from people who are brand new. I'm holding a contract in my hand for one of them. That's amazing work.
00:05:53
box
I might have a column.
00:05:53
Jim Phoenix
stories and reviews and pictures and magazine goodness and yays all mys and more podcasts that can i announce that your new one you announced new one fuck what am i announcing for it's yours
00:06:03
box
Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, you can. Okay, okay. This is for like, long time, long time ago. There was a,
00:06:11
Jim Phoenix
yes young box
00:06:12
box
There was a young box, a young box human. And basically, i there was a guy on the site called John Combo. And basically, Jim was like, oh, you guys can have a podcast.
00:06:21
Jim Phoenix
so here
00:06:24
box
It's going Combo Box. And apparently, he said that as a joke. But me and John Combo like took him up on that offer. And so it was Combo Box.
00:06:32
Jim Phoenix
Not knowing what a combo box was. I didn't know there a thing. didn't know combos were a fucking thing.
00:06:37
box
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:38
Jim Phoenix
Like the little like pretzel things.
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box
The candy.
00:06:40
Jim Phoenix
I didn't know there was even a...
00:06:40
box
yeah Yeah, the pretzels and things.
00:06:41
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:06:42
box
Also, i would I would, during that, go out and get a fast food box.
00:06:47
Jim Phoenix
Taco Bell?
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box
Because all the fast food boxes have like that weird gimmicky thing that they're doing.
00:06:48
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:06:53
box
And so I would eat that like beforehand and give that a So, yes, Comma Box 2.0 is to be coming back.
00:06:57
Jim Phoenix
Eat it. Don't eat it. Don't eat anythings. It's all Baby Yoda's.
00:07:06
Jim Phoenix
Starring who?
00:07:08
box
Starring me, of course.
00:07:09
Jim Phoenix
And?
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box
I know, some slump.
00:07:11
Jim Phoenix
so la Baby Yoda.
00:07:12
box
Yeah. yeah And we're good.
00:07:14
Jim Phoenix
Baby Yoda's gonna be on Kamlobox 2.0? Holy crap. You heard here first, and kids.
00:07:17
box
And you know what we're going to do? We're going to eat...
00:07:23
Jim Phoenix
Thank you.
00:07:24
box
Thank you. Thank you.
00:07:25
Jim Phoenix
I'm way too lazy to make new drops.
00:07:25
box
they Oh my god.
00:07:28
Jim Phoenix
Although, you know, if I'm focusing more on the TV aspects of it. Oh, right. you don't even know this.
New TV Writing Project
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Jim Phoenix
I was creating with a co-creator, co-writer.
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box
I don't.
00:07:40
Jim Phoenix
Like the first time I was actually actually writing, writing, co-writing a TV thing in forever. And that should be, we've done the rough of the entire, you know, holidays.
00:07:55
Jim Phoenix
What was it called? Like with Kevin Smith did one. Yeah.
00:07:58
box
it was a great movie.
00:07:58
Jim Phoenix
It's like that. Yeah, it's going to be like a five minute boom, boom, boom, boom.
00:08:00
box
Great movie. Great movie.
00:08:03
Jim Phoenix
but they're actually going interrelated a little bit. And it's not just horror.
00:08:06
box
Okay.
00:08:09
Jim Phoenix
It's not just comedy. It's little bit of all things kind of like moving into it.
00:08:12
box
I love anthology movies.
00:08:14
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:08:16
box
They're always so much fun. They always bring a little bit something different to the table. I just, I like them.
00:08:21
Jim Phoenix
Right. And that's great because that that's right. We're taking away the digital stuff and like the the website blogs type stuff. And we're moving more into fantastical areas, which I kind of get excited for. This is always the plan anyways.
00:08:36
Jim Phoenix
You know, one day we'll get the game out. But until then, we've got the top 10 non-exorcist possession
Top 10 Non-Exorcist Possession Films Discussion
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Jim Phoenix
films. He's he's reading off right now.
00:08:47
box
Yes, we do.
00:08:47
Jim Phoenix
for fucking 92 is our 92nd episode 90 fucking do ninety two 92 season 4 92 i'm pretty sure it might be in yeah we have to do something special for our hunters yeah yeah terror we can bet another hunter oh my god can i do it in the episodes yes i can absolutely
00:08:54
box
92nd episode. and Oh, wow. Damn. We're going to do something. Yeah, exactly. Tara Reid.
00:09:09
Jim Phoenix
Absolutely. Yeah. Now the episodes are coming out. We're doing book clubs and more stuff and all sorts of things. Deep dives and different genres. you like Buffy that's coming, you like Chucky, whatever's going to be, like Goosebumps maybe, who knows.
00:09:21
Jim Phoenix
You know, all the less stuff's going to be there.
00:09:22
box
Yeah, I'm still talking to... and Here's something i pitched to Nicole and possibly Court Court is doing millennial horror.
00:09:28
Jim Phoenix
Quark Squared.
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box
So millennial monsters.
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Jim Phoenix
I would love to do some Millennial
Film Analysis: Veronica
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Jim Phoenix
Horrors. You got a Lister and Boxy of millennial horrors.
00:09:38
box
Yeah, so do I. wonder if can have a bear.
00:09:40
Jim Phoenix
So do I got a whole whole telephone book for
00:09:43
box
Yeah.
00:09:44
Jim Phoenix
Megaduff. I don't even have that. It's the drop. Megaduff. What was that? Megaduff beer. Yeah, okay.
00:09:51
box
yeah
00:09:52
Jim Phoenix
Sponsored by. Because, you know, I stole it probably.
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box
you do that time?
00:09:56
Jim Phoenix
I don't know. Protect your hands. Protect your necks, Wu-Tang Clan.
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box
so sorry. and do that all a time
00:10:01
Jim Phoenix
The wizard that just hit the go-face killers. It's about the decks.
00:10:07
Jim Phoenix
I don't want name it. I'm like, we got, you know, you got Master Killer, Big Baby Jesus, you know, all of the, you know, Method Mans.
00:10:13
box
male
00:10:20
Jim Phoenix
So, for those who do not know and are still here, we go back and forth.
00:10:24
box
so sorry
00:10:26
Jim Phoenix
if you Usually, box does one and I'll do one. We keep going back and forth from there. We did not compare our top five. Are we going to do...
00:10:33
box
We did. It's a blind read.
00:10:35
Jim Phoenix
Shoot, I just noticed a flaw my list. Fuck.
00:10:38
box
Don't I?
00:10:38
Jim Phoenix
Are you doing the worst up to five?
00:10:42
box
Yes.
00:10:43
Jim Phoenix
Damn it. That's what I thought. And okay, fuck it.
Film Analysis: Autopsy of Jane Doe
00:10:46
Jim Phoenix
Whatever.
00:10:47
box
Because don't we want to do, like, the number one is, like, a big half week?
00:10:47
Jim Phoenix
I'll do that too.
00:10:50
Jim Phoenix
I know. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know.
00:10:53
box
Well, do you want to do it?
00:10:53
Jim Phoenix
I know.
00:10:53
box
I mean, we could do it opposite.
00:10:54
Jim Phoenix
No, no, no, no, no. no no no and and
00:10:59
Jim Phoenix
no
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box
Okay.
00:10:59
box
Okay.
00:10:59
Jim Phoenix
know
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box
Okay.
00:11:00
Jim Phoenix
I also realized that my list has like no particular order whatsoever.
00:11:04
box
Oh, well, I can tell you, here, you, you organize.
00:11:05
Jim Phoenix
It's just the list, which is fine.
00:11:11
box
I'm going to say the dishonorable mentions.
00:11:11
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. You go first. I'll do my list.
00:11:14
box
So the dishonorable mention is going to be, our yeah, it's going to be Argento's Demons.
00:11:16
Jim Phoenix
Designable mentions. Yes.
00:11:21
box
I did not like that movie.
00:11:21
Jim Phoenix
Oh, fuck. No. No.
00:11:22
box
and thought I thought it was gross.
00:11:23
Jim Phoenix
no
00:11:25
box
I thought the plot was, made no sense because the plot made no sense and it was dumb and I didn't like it. The hilarious mention is Season of the Witch.
00:11:38
box
It's funny. It's got Ron Perlman. It's got Nick Cage. What else could you watch?
00:11:42
Jim Phoenix
Halloween? No, not the Halloween season, which.
00:11:44
box
Season of the Witch.
00:11:46
Jim Phoenix
Not Halloween 2.
00:11:46
box
don't know.
00:11:47
Jim Phoenix
Oh, the one with Nick Cage.
00:11:48
box
No, no, no. Yeah, it's just called Season of the Witch. Yeah, and they're like knights.
00:11:54
Jim Phoenix
Oh, yeah, no.
00:11:54
box
They're like in the
Film Discussion: Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night 2
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box
old timey time time.
00:11:57
Jim Phoenix
And the old-timey nights? Yeah, no.
00:11:59
box
And it's Nick Cage Ron Perlman. And it's really funny. And then the one that I shouldn't say, but an honorable mention is Ghost with Whippy Goldberg and, you know, crazy.
00:12:13
Jim Phoenix
Oh, good. You went deep with that. Good for you.
00:12:17
box
I mean, there's possession in it.
00:12:18
Jim Phoenix
That's an honorable dishonorable?
00:12:20
box
It's honorable.
00:12:21
Jim Phoenix
Honorable.
00:12:22
box
That's honorable.
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Jim Phoenix
Okay.
00:12:23
box
And I would also say another honorable is Fallen, which I don't like the ending because it's sad, but whatever.
00:12:28
Jim Phoenix
No. I won't say much, but you know what? It's on my list.
00:12:35
box
Is it?
00:12:36
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Fallen's on one of my, that's one of my top five.
00:12:36
box
Okay. Okay, sorry. Alright.
00:12:40
Jim Phoenix
Oh, no, no. Don't worry. and i supposed to.
00:12:43
box
ah do you Do you want me to go now? Like, for reals use?
00:12:45
Jim Phoenix
Yep, I got my list.
00:12:46
box
Okay.
00:12:47
Jim Phoenix
Number fives.
00:12:48
box
Alright.
00:12:48
Jim Phoenix
Number fives. Or number...
00:12:49
box
Number five.
00:12:50
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, for each.
00:12:51
box
it's It's a, it's kind of a newer movie. I'm seeing... So, it's called Veronica. Veronica. And it's about a teen girl.
00:13:02
Jim Phoenix
Archie?
00:13:03
box
She she does...
00:13:03
Jim Phoenix
Fucking Jugheads and shit?
00:13:05
box
Huh?
00:13:06
Jim Phoenix
Veronica from Archie?
00:13:07
box
No.
00:13:07
Jim Phoenix
Is it Riverdale?
00:13:09
box
You're so...
00:13:09
Jim Phoenix
Because how is Luke Perry still in fucking school?
00:13:11
Jim Phoenix
I think that was the mystery. Why why is fucking...
00:13:13
box
Okay.
Humorous Argument: Harold & Kumar as Possession Film
00:13:15
box
Riverdale was something else.
00:13:15
Jim Phoenix
Perry's still in school. Rest his soul.
00:13:19
box
i I wish, but...
00:13:20
Jim Phoenix
Or not.
00:13:20
box
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:13:23
Jim Phoenix
He's always been dead for years.
00:13:23
box
Anyway. Yeah, but still. So Veronica is basically... from 2023. It's a coming of age. It's like a teenage, about a teenage girl.
00:13:36
box
She plays a Ouija board and she starts to become possessed and she starts to like weird things happen. And her mom like works a lot of hours. So she takes care of her younger siblings.
00:13:49
box
And so it's so many great shots because the apartment kind of wraps around. So there's so many shots of like, the camera being outside looking in on them and seeing something weird happen somewhere else within the house and things like that to where a you don't know what's quite going on.
00:14:05
Jim Phoenix
Really?
00:14:12
box
But it's, it is a good, scary movie. It's really well acted.
00:14:18
Jim Phoenix
It's well acted.
00:14:18
box
it is Spanish, I believe. I'm looking that up. It's from 2017. Trying remember. seventeen trying to remember
00:14:27
Jim Phoenix
You boys like Mexico?
00:14:27
box
It's in Spanish.
00:14:28
Jim Phoenix
No.
00:14:29
box
Well, it's it's from Spain.
00:14:33
Jim Phoenix
is it it's and we're doing subtitles we're doing subtitles what was in English is
00:14:42
box
it's based on and true story, but again, it's, you know, there's there's a lot of those.
00:14:45
Jim Phoenix
based on a true story all of mine are based on true story
00:14:50
box
But it's really good. It uses very practical effects. It uses very, like like I said, it's like a low-budget indie movie, but it has the scares. It has the acting.
00:15:01
box
It's just, a I think, kind of a hidden gem. Not a lot of people talk about it.
00:15:06
Jim Phoenix
I like the hidden gems because those are the ones you used to find at your video store.
00:15:12
box
Yeah.
00:15:13
Jim Phoenix
Just box surfing. No no pun intended. You're just like, oh, i like this one.
00:15:17
box
Absolutely.
00:15:18
Jim Phoenix
The covers.
00:15:19
box
Absolutely. And just like one of those, you know, you just pick it up, you're like, what is this? And then you take it home and it freaks the hell out you.
00:15:26
Jim Phoenix
It freaks the hell of you. And then you have to like pass it on before a girl comes out of TV set or something like that. That was your fifth one?
00:15:34
box
Yeah. Or, yeah.
00:15:36
Jim Phoenix
Oh, you know what?
00:15:36
box
Oh.
00:15:37
Jim Phoenix
Guess what? I have have a new edict.
00:15:38
box
right
00:15:40
Jim Phoenix
didn't pass this through. I was like, obviously, no. I'm giving the rating anyways. What do you think about doing ratings still? i
00:15:47
Jim Phoenix
I mean, you know. I mean, we're we're ranking them.
00:15:49
box
You want to do a thumbs up or thumbs down or thumbs in the middle?
00:15:52
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
Film Analysis: Talk to Me
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Jim Phoenix
Like, I know. I mean, these guys really worked really hard in these movies. I felt bad about telling, you know.
00:16:01
box
You were always that, like, you were always like, I give it five Cthulhus and like, 2.5.
00:16:08
Jim Phoenix
yeah 2.5, motherfucker. Well, not that one.
00:16:12
box
I'm like, you have to impress me.
00:16:14
Jim Phoenix
not like not like that one that was like a screener. I kind of ripped it. so All right.
00:16:21
box
we can We can talk about this later.
00:16:23
Jim Phoenix
yeah So you did that one for five. I'm going to do...
00:16:29
Jim Phoenix
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I know exactly which one I want to Autopsy of Jane Doe's.
00:16:35
box
So good.
00:16:36
Jim Phoenix
father and son coroner duel.
00:16:37
box
So good. I completely forgot about that one.
00:16:39
Jim Phoenix
Right? Well, there's so many of them. There's like a possession of Hannah Gray.
00:16:42
box
Yeah.
00:16:42
Jim Phoenix
and There's an autopsy of Jane Doe's.
00:16:43
box
Yeah.
00:16:45
Jim Phoenix
And there's even ones I really want to fit on, but I couldn't like my best friend's exorcism.
00:16:51
box
Yeah.
00:16:51
Jim Phoenix
Just because like this the five is tight for me. it like i I would love to include a lot of these. But the autopsy of Jane Doe at 216, I believe. And it is the...
00:17:04
Jim Phoenix
think there's only like one location. Like the hospital, right?
00:17:07
box
There's only like one location because it's it's done in such a clever way.
00:17:09
Jim Phoenix
The morgue.
00:17:12
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. They're claustrophobic sometimes too.
00:17:13
box
really is. Like if people have played the Mortuary's Assistant, it's like that.
00:17:21
Jim Phoenix
I've never played that one. was that?
00:17:23
box
It's a game.
00:17:24
Jim Phoenix
Oh! Did not know that.
00:17:27
box
yeah
00:17:27
Jim Phoenix
I did not know that. I can't do the Johnny Carson right now.
00:17:31
box
Yeah.
00:17:31
Jim Phoenix
So they're father-son corner team, and they get an unidentified woman. They're trying to discover, you know, it's an autopsy, really. so And as they're doing this autopsy, really weird things happen, including, of course, you have to be trapped in the house because there's a storm outside.
00:17:48
Jim Phoenix
You can't go out, right?
00:17:49
box
Yep, of course.
00:17:49
Jim Phoenix
You have to be trapped in. And it's a matter of a bit of a psychological horror, a bit of a supernatural. It mixes all these elements into it. I can't remember what the budget was, but I'm not saying, i don't think it's a whole hell, a lot.
00:18:04
box
they They had like, what, three to five casts? Like, it's it's not a big cast. It's one location.
00:18:13
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, and one's dead. Although, the the i think that the one of them is Brian Cox. So like you're you're having like not bad actors. It's like the acting phenomenal.
00:18:23
box
no, so The acting in this is really good.
00:18:25
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:18:26
box
I'm just saying, it's a that's how low the budget is.
00:18:26
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:18:30
box
Like, you don't need a lot. It's kind of like Saw 1, where they didn't need a lot. of people,
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00:18:35
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:18:35
box
they didn't meet a lot of places, it was just one place.
00:18:38
box
And they made it work, and this makes it work too.
00:18:42
Jim Phoenix
Absolutely. And just like Saw One, I think the the name would be Carrie Ewell's. But there's always one, the the heavy.
00:18:47
box
Yeah, exactly. No.
00:18:48
Jim Phoenix
And he doesn't have to carry the film. That's the best thing. like Brian Cox does not have to carry the film.
00:18:52
box
Nope.
00:18:54
Jim Phoenix
Neither do they carry.
00:18:55
box
He's there to support, and he does a good job.
00:18:55
Jim Phoenix
goes for a soft. Yeah. That's the story. It's like the whole story is really the film. And that's why it's my number five. There are other stra there stronger ones coming up. But that's my number five.
00:19:06
Jim Phoenix
is the, if you haven't seen it, there's some there is some nudity because it's an autopsy, right?
00:19:07
box
It's a good one.
00:19:12
Jim Phoenix
If I remember correctly.
00:19:12
box
Right. Yeah.
00:19:13
Jim Phoenix
Right.
00:19:13
box
Yeah.
00:19:14
Jim Phoenix
But there's blood and guts. There's not much beyond that.
00:19:15
box
i I would hope people would be okay with titties.
00:19:20
Jim Phoenix
You have no idea.
00:19:20
box
If they're okay with blood and guts and stuff.
00:19:23
Jim Phoenix
Blood gets an ass.
00:19:23
box
But there is.
00:19:24
Jim Phoenix
Alright, so that's that's my five. What's your what's your number four?
00:19:26
box
Okay. Number four. My number four I to pull it up because you did that really fast.
00:19:34
Jim Phoenix
Oh, sorry.
00:19:34
box
Okay. Okay. So I know that this is campy.
00:19:36
Jim Phoenix
That phrasing.
00:19:38
box
I know this is silly, but I really love this movie and it's called hello, Mary Lou prom night two.
00:19:41
Jim Phoenix
All good?
00:19:46
Jim Phoenix
Oh, wow.
00:19:46
box
And yeah, prom night two, it has nothing to do with prom night one in the least and just the title.
00:19:47
Jim Phoenix
Prom Night 2.
00:19:50
Jim Phoenix
Talk about the VHS boxes. No. Whatsoever. Just a title. Right.
00:19:57
box
and but it is, it's a Canadian supernatural natural slasher film. It has actually a lot of depth to it because, like, she has a friend who's going through this pregnancy scare.
00:20:08
Jim Phoenix
Right.
00:20:09
box
Like, there's it's there's a lot of female themes in this that I think aren't...
00:20:14
Jim Phoenix
A lot of emotional impact.
00:20:16
box
Yeah, and they're it's not usually shown.
00:20:16
Jim Phoenix
Like realistic. Yeah.
00:20:18
box
You know, even, like, Mary Lou, she's kind of, like, trying to get
00:20:20
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
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00:20:22
box
revenge on the people that murdered her.
00:20:25
Jim Phoenix
Spoiler.
00:20:25
box
is she sassy? Yes. she's She's quite sassy.
00:20:30
Jim Phoenix
But she's also a teen.
00:20:32
box
She's also a teen.
00:20:33
Jim Phoenix
Like she's a sassy teen who's unfortunately also dead.
00:20:33
box
Yeah.
00:20:37
box
Yeah. And so she's, see there's a dress.
00:20:38
Jim Phoenix
Unfortunately, because the movie wouldn't work otherwise.
00:20:41
box
The girl puts on the dress for the prom. Uh-oh. The dress is possessed. Now she's possessed. So that's kind of the story. Yeah,
00:20:48
Jim Phoenix
You know how many times I got possessed through a dress?
00:20:53
box
right.
00:20:53
Jim Phoenix
I mean, all those times, officer. It wasn't the alcohol. was the possessions. It was me and Vince Vaughn going out.
00:21:00
box
Look, I remember seeing a picture of you with a Wonder Woman dress, I think.
00:21:05
Jim Phoenix
Oh, shit. What? Where? Did I show you that?
00:21:08
box
You did.
00:21:09
Jim Phoenix
Oh, fuck me.
00:21:09
box
looked good.
00:21:11
Jim Phoenix
Goddamn right I looked good one as Wonder Woman.
00:21:11
box
looked good. Yeah, you did.
00:21:13
Jim Phoenix
That's fucking John Berryman's for that one.
00:21:14
box
You did. So, I don't put it past you to be possessed by a dress.
00:21:20
Jim Phoenix
I'm possessed by a dress. Okay. i dig So, okay. Because this is where I get weird. I think I had this discussion with you and Voodoo before.
00:21:34
box
Okay, you get us so confused though.
00:21:34
Jim Phoenix
be It might have just been the same person. This might have been one of you. But I was watching something. i was like, man, this is so weird because it's like all tits and ass, but they're like high schoolers, you know?
00:21:48
box
Yeah.
00:21:48
Jim Phoenix
And you're like, oh, that's creepy.
00:21:49
box
Well.
00:21:49
Jim Phoenix
I'm like, well, like I didn't fucking cast this shit. like i didn't write it.
00:21:53
box
Well.
00:21:53
Jim Phoenix
I'm just watching this. So do they have like a lot of nudity in that film?
00:21:55
box
I.
00:21:59
Jim Phoenix
And if so...
00:22:00
box
yeah. It has some nudity. I know, i think there's fellatio involved they're teens they're teens you know like 18 yeah
00:22:07
Jim Phoenix
That could be a dick one for you. Nice. Oh, 13. Not 13. thirteens not thirteen Got
00:22:14
box
yeah
00:22:14
Jim Phoenix
okay
00:22:15
box
they are they are teens like 18 19 whatever and the people here's and here's the thing too here's the thing too it's it's not as bad as grace casting of teens but you can tell they're in their they're
00:22:17
Jim Phoenix
teen we're We're saying legals. Okay. the they're They're having a very late prom. 19. They all failed. It's a dummy prom.
00:22:34
box
there They're not.
00:22:34
Jim Phoenix
Is Luke Perry in this one too? Yes, Luke Perry's. Also on this one. He didn't get out. He was a dress. Didn't want to spoil it. Luke Perry's a dress.
00:22:44
box
Yes, he was the one in the dress. he He's actually the one who gets possessed by Mary Lou.
00:22:45
Jim Phoenix
It was a dress. Nice. Ooh.
00:22:49
box
And it's great.
00:22:50
Jim Phoenix
Him and Vince Vaughn go kill them, people. Love it. All right, so is that number four for you?
00:22:55
box
That was number four.
00:22:56
Jim Phoenix
Not bad, not bad. i You know I also have more of a campy one for my number four. So it kind of worked out. It's it's whimsical. It's not what you're going to... It's not what you're going probably think of when you think of like the top 10 non-exorcist possessive films.
00:23:12
box
but Okay.
00:23:12
Jim Phoenix
But a little setup. From 2004...
00:23:17
Jim Phoenix
I'll just give the story. Starring John Cho, Cal Penn, and Neil Patrick Harris.
00:23:23
box
Oh no.
00:23:23
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle because they're possessed missions for White Castles.
00:23:25
box
Harold and Kumar.
Praising Prince of Darkness
00:23:30
Jim Phoenix
And they go through hell and back to get to White Castle. So therefore, it is a possession movie, motherfuckers. At number four, it actually beat out my best friend's exorcisms and all that other shit.
00:23:42
Jim Phoenix
It beat that out.
00:23:42
box
Oh, wow. Wow.
00:23:44
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:23:45
box
You know, I have never seen those movies.
00:23:48
Jim Phoenix
You've never seen Harold Camargo to White Castle?
00:23:51
box
No.
00:23:52
Jim Phoenix
Oh my gosh. Okay. So
00:23:54
box
Apparently that's what we're going to be doing next time.
00:23:57
Jim Phoenix
maybe we could just like start doing those movies. There are like probably three or four of them at least. They do Christmas, Catanamo Bay.
00:24:02
box
I think there's, yeah, I don't remember those two.
00:24:07
Jim Phoenix
One was 3D. One was 3D and Claymation that showed penises. It could be a penis film for you as well.
00:24:14
box
Oh, there we go.
00:24:14
Jim Phoenix
There's actually a penis film.
00:24:15
box
See, we can do our dick horror.
00:24:18
Jim Phoenix
We could do dick horror.
00:24:19
box
Thank you.
00:24:20
Jim Phoenix
Apparently now I watched one. Or two with Mary Lou.
00:24:22
box
Thank you. Yeah? I mean, there's...
00:24:25
Jim Phoenix
I'll have to watch.
00:24:26
box
mean, I'm sure if you go back in your memory, there's so many dick movies that you don't even realize.
00:24:33
Jim Phoenix
Oh. There is. okay Remember the one where the guy's dick came to life?
00:24:38
box
No.
00:24:38
Jim Phoenix
And he was a complete... Detached from him and started killing people?
00:24:43
box
No, but that sounds like King Missile's detachable penis.
00:24:50
Jim Phoenix
don't think that was the movie title, but it might also just been a porno was watching.
00:24:54
box
Oh, okay.
00:24:58
Jim Phoenix
It might have been a porno. I think I might have reviewed that for Burning an Angel, to be honest.
00:25:00
box
It might have been a porno. With small hands.
00:25:03
Jim Phoenix
myself like Small Hands was in it. So I don't know. Maybe it was just that. But I think I looked it up afterwards. But yeah, Hell of Camargo to White Castle. It is everything you want in a movie because you are looking at people who are being abused by society and they just want one fucking thing.
00:25:13
box
hi
00:25:23
Jim Phoenix
They want to take their lives and say, i just want, they're really high.
00:25:25
box
White Castle.
00:25:27
Jim Phoenix
I just want White Castle.
00:25:29
box
That makes more sense.
00:25:29
Jim Phoenix
That's all I want. A fucking slider.
00:25:31
box
That makes way more sense.
00:25:32
Jim Phoenix
The end. Just one victory, God.
00:25:34
box
Because White Castle is disgusting.
00:25:35
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Oh, okay. We grew up on them. Sorry. Sorry. You have some kind of platelets, whatever. Your platelets. That's what want to have a platelet.
00:25:45
box
Yeah, my platelets my playlets hate white males.
00:25:47
Jim Phoenix
Your platelet count is fine. My platelet count is fine. The blood cells are fine.
00:25:53
box
So they get possessed?
00:25:53
Jim Phoenix
So this... They're possessed by a undying mission...
Top Film Choice: Puppet Master
00:26:01
Jim Phoenix
to get sure.
00:26:01
box
Like a mission from God? Kind of like Blue's Travelers? Oh, wait, not Blue's Travelers.
00:26:05
Jim Phoenix
but Blues Brothers. Blues Drivers be Canadian, Bendy. Although one of the Blues Brothers was Canadian.
00:26:11
box
Yeah, yeah he got he got arrested for having a bunch of guns and shit.
00:26:11
Jim Phoenix
Another one is Johnny Blues.
00:26:17
Jim Phoenix
He's no Blues Driver no more. And this one has Neil Patrick Harris, which is, I think, might as be his first real film besides Doogie.
00:26:19
box
No.
00:26:25
box
I think it was, and I think he got the role in How I Met Your Mother from this.
00:26:31
Jim Phoenix
Based on this. Yeah, it's basically the same character. I mean, really.
00:26:35
box
Yeah.
00:26:35
Jim Phoenix
is i mean not the same He plays himself in Harun Kumar. But it's like the you know the persona being being a nice little guy. I'm a nice guy. And he's actually just like this fucking womanizer from hell.
00:26:50
Jim Phoenix
It's amazing. It's perfect, man. It's perfect for him. Not because he's womanizer.
00:26:54
box
Which is great because he's gay.
00:26:55
Jim Phoenix
It's because he's absolutely not a womanizer. That's what I'm saying. it's like It breaks the stereotype of his public image.
00:26:58
box
Yeah.
00:27:01
Jim Phoenix
And I love it. It spawned a franchise. So that's why my number four. What's your number three?
00:27:07
box
We should...
00:27:08
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:27:08
box
Okay, real quick. I know.
00:27:09
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:27:10
box
Sorry, everybody. we should do We should do one where it's like being John Malkovich. This one, like when actors portray a version of themselves,
Conclusion and Future Plans
00:27:21
Jim Phoenix
A version of themselves.
00:27:22
box
I think that would be kind of fun.
00:27:23
box
Yeah, I think that'd be kind of fun.
00:27:25
Jim Phoenix
Would that also include... An actor who portrays, but it has to be named, right? So John Malkovich is John Malkovich.
00:27:34
box
right.
00:27:35
Jim Phoenix
Neil Patrick. So you could do Bruce.
00:27:37
box
for Karis is good.
00:27:37
Jim Phoenix
I am Bruce Campbell. Yeah. So we got three so far.
00:27:41
box
Yeah.
00:27:41
Jim Phoenix
Nice.
00:27:42
box
Yeah.
00:27:42
Jim Phoenix
Cool. We do that for one of them.
00:27:43
box
Okay. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
00:27:45
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:27:46
box
Okay. My number three?
00:27:50
box
No, there's actually one more.
00:27:50
Jim Phoenix
There's only three of them.
00:27:51
box
I have it in my head. It's the something, something, Wade of something.
00:27:52
Jim Phoenix
Oh.
00:27:55
box
It's Nick Cage. There's another one.
00:27:56
Jim Phoenix
Oh. Oh, yeah. The incredible bum but blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:27:59
box
Who liked it? With Pedro Pascal.
00:28:00
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
00:28:02
box
My boy Pedro.
00:28:02
Jim Phoenix
We'll do that next time.
00:28:03
box
Okay. So the next one I got, number three, is Talk to Me, which is one that Kort Kort actually told me to watch.
00:28:09
Jim Phoenix
I am. Car squared.
00:28:12
box
Yeah. And it's basically a group of friends who discover how to conjure spirits through this embalmed hand. And so there's multiple spirits that possess them.
00:28:23
box
And they find this like a fun party game, but then one of them takes it too far.
00:28:24
Jim Phoenix
Oh. Right.
00:28:29
Jim Phoenix
i remember that one. that's It's their college-ish age.
00:28:33
box
Yeah, yeah, like...
00:28:33
Jim Phoenix
Like early college. And they were like videotaping it.
00:28:35
box
like so
00:28:35
Jim Phoenix
Is that the one? Or they saw a tape of it.
00:28:38
box
I don't know if they have video game.
00:28:39
Jim Phoenix
Or they had...
00:28:41
box
The embalmed hand is very like prominent. It's very like, yeah, and you touch it and you say, talk to me.
00:28:44
Jim Phoenix
Right.
00:28:49
box
And it basically gets you possessed.
00:28:52
Jim Phoenix
Right. And bad shit happens if you go past the time limit.
00:28:56
box
Yes, exactly.
00:28:57
Jim Phoenix
Okay, I know what you're talking about.
00:28:57
box
You got it. You got it.
00:28:59
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, that's a good one.
00:28:59
box
yep
00:29:00
Jim Phoenix
That's number three for you?
00:29:02
box
Yep, that's number three.
00:29:02
Jim Phoenix
That fits.
00:29:03
box
Because it's...
00:29:03
Jim Phoenix
Okay, I forgot about that one.
00:29:04
box
fun when you see a bunch of different ghosts that possess them.
00:29:07
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:29:07
box
like and And the story is really good because it's really about a daughter's loss of her mother and trying and and going through that loss.
00:29:13
Jim Phoenix
yeah
00:29:17
box
Really well acted. Really great music. Actually, one of the the music pieces in it was a meme for a while. So that's like how great the music is.
00:29:28
Jim Phoenix
Really?
00:29:29
box
And practical effects.
00:29:30
Jim Phoenix
the
00:29:31
box
Really good effects.
00:29:32
Jim Phoenix
The shopping cart.
00:29:33
box
It really scares
00:29:34
Jim Phoenix
Really good shopping carts.
00:29:36
box
yes
00:29:36
Jim Phoenix
No spoilers. I'm like, what kind of effects they have?
00:29:38
box
long
00:29:39
Jim Phoenix
Like a bottom hand and a fucking shopping cart. That was it, right?
00:29:42
box
Well, no, because remember one of the kids gets his ass beaten, you know, and like his eyes kind of like bulging out.
00:29:50
Jim Phoenix
oh I don't know.
00:29:52
box
Like it's, it's, it's, he ends up in the hospital.
00:29:53
Jim Phoenix
I don't remember that part. Oh, yeah, I do remember that part.
00:29:57
box
the you we don't want to give it too much away.
00:29:57
Jim Phoenix
Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, oh, yeah.
00:29:59
box
We don't want to give, but it's really good.
00:30:00
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, I know. But it's it's it's good. it's good and And it works because is one of those films where it's a decent film, even if it wasn't a horror film.
00:30:02
box
It's good.
00:30:08
box
Exactly.
00:30:08
Jim Phoenix
It's just a decent story.
00:30:09
box
Exactly.
00:30:10
Jim Phoenix
Like they're saying, like, dealing with the mom's loss.
00:30:11
box
Decent story, decent acting, decent, like, everything is really good.
00:30:16
Jim Phoenix
Very cool. Wow, shit. I have to follow that. God damn it.
00:30:19
box
you do. I know, it's a bummer.
00:30:21
Jim Phoenix
My number three is your dishonorable mentions, Fallen's. It's got Denzel's.
00:30:26
box
No, no, no, no. No, no, no. I didn't say it was dishonorable. That was honorable. Yes.
00:30:30
Jim Phoenix
Oh, I don't care. It's got Denzel Washington, John Goodman, Donald Sutherland. I mean, if you don't know,
00:30:36
box
It has a really good acting.
00:30:38
Jim Phoenix
It is the... It's a crime story. It's a supernatural crime thriller where Denzel is going... Thinking in case there's a celllar killer killer. But there is a demon that keeps bouncing from person to person. But it bounces through touch.
00:30:54
Jim Phoenix
And then you don't know if the person has until they start seeing in time. but you know
00:30:59
box
Yeah, time is on my side.
00:30:59
Jim Phoenix
Time is on my side, but it stones. Yeah. i won't Because it's hard to...
00:31:02
box
Yeah.
00:31:05
Jim Phoenix
talk about the movie without giving it away since it's really a suspense and you're trying to figure stuff out beyond.
00:31:08
box
Yeah.
00:31:13
Jim Phoenix
I mean, that all happens like first act. So, you know, it jumps around, but it's someone who's taking it, Seriously, the Zennel's Washington character takes it seriously. Like, he's just trying to figure out what's going on.
00:31:26
Jim Phoenix
He may or may not be a great believer of the supernatural at that time. And he's really just trying to follow the case like a cop. It's a procedural. It's a crime story.
00:31:35
box
hmm hmm
00:31:38
Jim Phoenix
And breaches a crush. Breaches a crush. Rocha's the question, like, how far would you go if you don't believe in this stuff? And like, I just executed someone, serial killer on death row, executed that motherfucker. He's dead.
00:31:53
Jim Phoenix
Crimes against humanity. Cards against this. Dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria. That's posters again. But how far would you finally go? Like, fuck, it has to be something evil. Like, actually demonic evil.
00:32:07
Jim Phoenix
Must exist.
00:32:08
box
Right. Otherworldly. Completely otherworldly.
00:32:10
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:11
box
Like, what is this?
00:32:13
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:32:13
box
And where do i where do my beliefs fall into that?
00:32:16
Jim Phoenix
Right. Absolutely. And then you have to kind of reconcile the fact that you might have killed even though the man killed people.
00:32:17
box
and
00:32:24
Jim Phoenix
the The actual devil made me do it defense would be legit.
00:32:27
box
Yeah.
00:32:27
Jim Phoenix
So you kind of killed an innocent person.
00:32:30
box
Yeah.
00:32:31
Jim Phoenix
The devil have made kill.
00:32:32
box
And honestly, what I like about this film is Denzel plays such a good character. But the demon is such a good character too.
00:32:40
Jim Phoenix
Yes.
00:32:40
box
They play off of each other. Like there's this like interest and connection in each other.
00:32:42
Jim Phoenix
Yes.
00:32:47
box
make that sound so much more sexual than it is, but it's, it is, it's very like, you know, cause the demon knows and the demon's like toying with him, but also there's that interest in them.
00:32:50
Jim Phoenix
Mm-mm-mm.
00:32:58
box
And it's just a really good dynamic that I've never seen in a movie before and kind of since where, there is a weird relationship between this demon and the main character.
00:33:13
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, and this goes again, this comes from 98. and John Goodman, Donald Southern.
00:33:16
box
mean
00:33:19
Jim Phoenix
These are people, like, Goodman's not known for doing cop dramas.
00:33:23
box
No.
00:33:23
Jim Phoenix
He was known for Roseanne.
00:33:25
box
Yeah.
00:33:27
Jim Phoenix
You know, and Donald Southern got a huge-ass career.
00:33:28
box
i Wait, what year was this? Was it by The Big Lebowski? I feel like that was...
00:33:32
Jim Phoenix
98, I can't remember Big Wabowski what year that was. But arguably it is a, yeah.
00:33:35
box
I feel like that was when he made switch.
00:33:39
Jim Phoenix
Michael Keaton did it. Why not?
00:33:41
box
Yeah?
00:33:42
Jim Phoenix
you know Mr.
00:33:42
box
Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
00:33:43
Jim Phoenix
Moms, Batmans. right, so that's my number three? Is that question?
00:33:47
box
it's It's a really good number three.
00:33:48
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, number three, yeah.
00:33:50
box
Yeah.
00:33:50
Jim Phoenix
What's your number two? What's your number two?
00:33:51
box
So, my number two is going to be sexy.
00:33:55
Jim Phoenix
Sexy?
00:33:56
box
Yep. It's going to be also bi.
00:33:57
Jim Phoenix
Like, Frankenhooker? oh Oh, it's called sexy.
00:34:00
box
It's going to be... Yeah, no.
00:34:01
Jim Phoenix
Oh, sexy bi? No, wait, wait. Are you saying B-Y or B-I?
00:34:04
box
It's sexy and bi. B.I.
00:34:07
Jim Phoenix
Okay.
00:34:07
box
Bisexual.
00:34:08
Jim Phoenix
Bisexual, okay.
00:34:09
box
So I am going to, my number two is Jennifer's body. Yeah.
00:34:14
Jim Phoenix
Oh, I forgot that one.
00:34:15
box
Yeah.
00:34:16
Jim Phoenix
How the fuck did I forget that one?
00:34:19
box
See, like, you you remembered one I forgot, and then I remember one you forgot.
00:34:21
Jim Phoenix
Oh, Harold Kamara's. Harold Kamara, go to White Castle. That's one you forgot. Like, oh, I wish I had that one.
00:34:27
box
No, I don't think that was the one. that
00:34:29
Jim Phoenix
Oh, the autopsy here.
00:34:30
box
But we have Megan Fox as Jennifer, you know, and Link.
00:34:32
Jim Phoenix
Megan Fox. Yeah.
00:34:35
box
And Amanda Seyfried? Seyfried?
00:34:39
Jim Phoenix
so for
00:34:39
box
I forget how to say her name. But anyway, it's really cool because you get to see this transformation of the demon.
00:34:46
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:34:47
box
And she just keeps getting hotter. The more she possesses, the more she, she you know, spreads around chaos and things like that.
00:34:54
Jim Phoenix
Kills. Yeah.
00:34:56
box
So, but there is, I guess, again, kind of... going between the, you know, that connection between Amanda's character, Needy, and Jennifer's character, you know, Jennifer, Megan Fox's character. So, I mean, there's there's a lot of sexual tension.
00:35:16
box
There's a lot of, it's just a good story with really good acting.
00:35:20
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. It's well-placed sexual attention. It's it's earned.
00:35:23
box
i
00:35:24
Jim Phoenix
It's not like...
00:35:25
box
It's not exploitative.
00:35:25
Jim Phoenix
What was that? No, yeah.
00:35:26
box
It's not exploitative of like,
00:35:27
Jim Phoenix
It's not the... My gay friend.
00:35:31
box
No.
00:35:31
Jim Phoenix
know Like, you know, the Vince Vaughn possessed movie. yeah Of course she has a gay friend.
00:35:35
box
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:35:36
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, it's not that.
00:35:37
box
It's not...
00:35:37
Jim Phoenix
It's like, we just have him hook up with the bully.
00:35:40
box
It's not for, you know, a gaze.
00:35:41
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:35:43
box
It's not for... It's for the gaze, I guess.
00:35:46
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. But it's going...
00:35:47
box
But it's it's played very straight.
00:35:48
Jim Phoenix
like
00:35:49
box
It's played very...
00:35:50
Jim Phoenix
Yes, like exploring sexuality.
00:35:52
box
yeah Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:35:56
Jim Phoenix
During that time, yeah.
00:35:56
box
And so i know I know a lot of queers that really resonate with that movie where that was kind of also their sexual awakening.
00:36:05
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, and unlike Bugs Bunny, I can see that one. I can see that.
00:36:10
box
See, I was just going to say, like, you know, Freddy, Freddy 2, it's kind of a possession movie. It's kind of sexy.
00:36:16
Jim Phoenix
yeah I almost did a Freddy because it does have yeah aspects.
00:36:17
box
It's kind of good.
00:36:21
Jim Phoenix
Even like Friday the 13th, Jason at the end starts doing the possession. No, not Jason. how j Jason and Halloween.
00:36:28
box
Whoa, Jason does. you No, Jason does because he kisses people.
00:36:30
Jim Phoenix
All three of them do.
00:36:32
box
Remember, he kisses them.
00:36:33
Jim Phoenix
Through one of them. And it passes the thing that the worm would realize on.
00:36:36
box
it Yeah, it passes the worm. Yeah.
00:36:38
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. And then Halloween was...
00:36:39
box
That's how that's how people kiss, right?
00:36:40
Jim Phoenix
What was that?
00:36:41
box
That's human kissing. That's how people kiss, right? You pass a worm through something like to possess them. like That's how humans kiss.
00:36:46
Jim Phoenix
I think so, yeah. That was the whole...
00:36:49
box
Yeah. Like, that's...
00:36:50
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, so we we actually missed a whole bunch of the fucking movies, apparently.
00:36:50
box
I
00:36:53
Jim Phoenix
But again, the the those franchises aren't known for possessions.
00:36:53
box
know.
00:36:58
box
No.
00:36:58
Jim Phoenix
And honestly, stacking up Freddy 2 versus anyone that we talked about so far is not going to get the top 10. Like, you wouldn't bump one of these off your list, would you?
00:37:09
Jim Phoenix
For two?
00:37:10
box
No, no, no, no.
00:37:11
Jim Phoenix
No.
00:37:12
box
and And to be honest, too, like, I was looking at, you know, the Conjuringses, and I was looking at the Sinisterses, and the, the Red, what was the Red Door one?
00:37:18
Jim Phoenix
Me too, but yeah, same.
00:37:23
Jim Phoenix
That was, yeah.
00:37:24
box
That one. and Insidiouses.
00:37:27
Jim Phoenix
Insidious, thank you They all came the same time.
00:37:28
box
i Oh, I did go to the Insidious thing in Detroit, and I was there for the final show before they completely took it off tour.
00:37:36
Jim Phoenix
Wow, was it good?
00:37:36
box
So I should probably write about that. Maybe that'll be at my first column.
00:37:39
Jim Phoenix
For the magazine.
00:37:41
box
Yeah.
00:37:42
Jim Phoenix
Do a magazine for that.
00:37:43
box
i I survived the insidious.
00:37:43
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, well, I survived the insidances. we We have those things. Or even like the Hell House LLCs where there's some possession involved.
00:37:49
box
yeah like Paranormal activity.
00:37:52
Jim Phoenix
It's just not. Yeah.
00:37:55
box
like there's There's a lot to choose from, but I feel like this is a much more to our heart, you know?
00:37:57
Jim Phoenix
The franchises. Yeah. But it's not true. Like these are the best the best. Like how much I love Conjuring.
00:38:06
box
yeah this
00:38:08
Jim Phoenix
I owe Conjuring so many jump scares with the people I've dated. Through my life. But it's not it is not the ones like we've talked about today.
00:38:15
box
Yes.
00:38:20
box
Right. it's it feels more It's good, but it feels more plastic. It's a popcorn movie.
00:38:25
Jim Phoenix
More manufactured. Yeah, it's... And some of these are coming from 1998.
00:38:27
box
Yeah.
00:38:30
Jim Phoenix
So you did Jennifer's Body for your number two?
00:38:31
box
Yeah.
00:38:34
box
Yeah.
00:38:36
Jim Phoenix
Okay. I'm going to do a John Carpenter for my number two.
00:38:41
box
Okay, I like John Carpenter.
00:38:42
Jim Phoenix
Can you guess the John Carpenter one?
00:38:44
box
The Thing?
00:38:46
Jim Phoenix
No, because that technically the thing recreates the body.
00:38:47
box
no, I mean, they're not possessed.
00:38:53
Jim Phoenix
It's going to be one that stars Alice Cooper.
00:38:54
box
Is it
00:38:57
Jim Phoenix
Or not stars Alice Cooper, but... And Donald Pleasence.
00:39:02
box
I love Donald Pleasance.
00:39:04
Jim Phoenix
The Prince of Darkness.
00:39:04
box
Is it a Michael Myers one?
00:39:06
Jim Phoenix
No, Prince of Darkness.
00:39:09
box
and forgot about that one.
00:39:10
Jim Phoenix
Exactly. Exactly.
00:39:11
box
Oh, that's right.
00:39:12
Jim Phoenix
I said to your face, exactly. That was...
00:39:16
Jim Phoenix
87. This one scared me as a kid.
00:39:17
box
Yeah, that was a one too. It is scary. it It has a lot of like, it's tonally scary.
00:39:24
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. Because it's half scientific, half religious, and all fucked.
00:39:28
box
think so.
00:39:30
Jim Phoenix
Like when Alice Cooper being the homeless person, like, of you know, conglomerate, like, flies around the the hospital, I guess.
00:39:39
box
think so
00:39:39
Jim Phoenix
Or whatever research center it is. It's been a minute. Like when he when that's like the least scariest thing there, it's fucked up.
00:39:43
box
It's the same.
00:39:48
Jim Phoenix
And it's, here's the log line.
00:39:48
box
Alice Cooper's a very nice guy.
00:39:49
Jim Phoenix
A priest enlists, it is Detroit.
00:39:50
box
Detroit. Detroit versus everybody.
00:39:53
Jim Phoenix
It is, I think so. A priest enlists a team of scientists to study a mysterious canister of swirling green liquid, soon realizing it's literal embodiment of evil trying to cross into our world.
00:40:06
Jim Phoenix
And oh.
00:40:07
box
It's such a great poster, too.
00:40:10
Jim Phoenix
oh
00:40:10
box
It's one of those posters that you see and you're like, oh I remember that, seeing that movie on the blockbuster.
00:40:15
Jim Phoenix
Yes.
00:40:17
Jim Phoenix
It's got scientists trying to prove or disprove. And I can't talk about too much because it will absolutely, like the ending really well worth it.
00:40:25
box
Mm-hmm.
00:40:27
Jim Phoenix
And it's part sci-fi, the cosmic dread of it all because this's you don't know what's in this canister. And you the the absolute horror in some of it is just paranoia too.
00:40:41
Jim Phoenix
So it's kind of like the thing where you don't know who's going to be like the thing.
00:40:42
box
yeah
00:40:45
Jim Phoenix
And so at the end, I go, is this the dude? or yeah I love the beats of it. Like Carpenter takes his time. It's an 87. I honestly do not remember if it had, it no, it had to have mostly practical, mostly practical.
00:41:05
box
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:06
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:41:06
box
it was it was pretty much all practical.
00:41:08
Jim Phoenix
They might've done some green swirling shit on the screen, but that's about it.
00:41:10
box
Yeah, I mean... And usually back then it was done by hand anyway.
00:41:13
Jim Phoenix
was all, yeah. Yeah, like on a film. Yeah. So if you've never seen Prince of Darkness, it if you want to see what scared Jimbo as a kid, or I guess 87 as an alien.
00:41:18
box
Yeah.
00:41:24
box
but
00:41:27
Jim Phoenix
How's that old? Whatever. It was still scary, man. And one of those things, I bought it.
00:41:32
box
Like I was 16 and still writing a book.
00:41:36
Jim Phoenix
rented it from the box.
00:41:40
box
Yeah.
00:41:40
Jim Phoenix
It's like, John Carpenter, look at this box. This box looks spooky, spooky. Let's take it home. It's 99 cents to rent.
00:41:46
box
Like I said, the poster of the box, like, it's spooky.
00:41:48
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:41:49
box
It looks good.
00:41:49
Jim Phoenix
It's well done. It's well done. That's nine, number twos. What's your number one? Oh, number one.
00:41:55
box
Number one. I wonder, I'm really curious if we have the same one.
00:42:00
Jim Phoenix
Probably not.
00:42:02
box
Okay,
00:42:02
Jim Phoenix
Probably not.
00:42:02
box
good. So I'm gonna have to go with, again, another Michigan film. This was one of Michigan's babies.
00:42:10
Jim Phoenix
It was close. Okay. I almost put that one in. If I'm annoying, I almost must put that in.
00:42:15
box
We have to do it, because Actually, my dad worked on cameras when Sam Raimi was making it.
00:42:20
Jim Phoenix
Cool.
00:42:21
box
And he would return the cameras with all the like fake blood and shit on it.
00:42:26
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:42:27
box
And they would like threaten Sam Raimi, like, you can't keep doing this, bud. If you do, because they would just rent out the cameras.
00:42:34
Jim Phoenix
yeah
00:42:34
box
We won't rent them out to you anymore. Like, you have to clean it up.
00:42:38
Jim Phoenix
Clean up your act. No one wants to see your low-budget shits.
00:42:39
box
And so.
00:42:42
Jim Phoenix
Your student films.
00:42:43
box
So, yes, it's. It's gonna be the Evil Dead. Like, take your pick of one, two, three, whatever.
00:42:46
Jim Phoenix
The evil death. yeah
00:42:50
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:42:50
box
Like, Evil Dead. Even the series is great.
00:42:53
Jim Phoenix
Yeah. The series.
00:42:54
box
Like, don't know, he looks so good.
00:42:54
Jim Phoenix
I would even the fucking series. So much.
00:42:59
box
Like, he really, he aged well.
00:43:00
Jim Phoenix
We could do Bruce Campbell films for like just all of it.
00:43:04
box
I mean, we should do a Bruce Campbell-a-thon at some point.
00:43:07
Jim Phoenix
I think we... but waitly after We have it. We have it. I'm so glad you put this one out because it did not make my list.
00:43:11
box
Yeah.
00:43:13
Jim Phoenix
And I was like, man, started talking, I'm like, oh, yeah, I know. I'm glad you put it on.
00:43:18
box
It's so good. It's still scary. It's still campy. It's still everything. The effects being claymation are real gross.
00:43:24
Jim Phoenix
Made for a credit card.
00:43:28
Jim Phoenix
yeah
00:43:29
box
Tree rape is not our sponsor.
00:43:32
Jim Phoenix
but it's done well.
00:43:32
box
like
00:43:34
Jim Phoenix
It spawns the fucking franchises and genres itself.
00:43:34
box
It was... Oh my gosh. Exactly. like it's It became a huge thing. It became its own thing.
00:43:42
Jim Phoenix
but Ways of shooting with cameras, like new camera techniques came from this.
00:43:46
box
Yes. Absolutely. And we've seen before, you and i with Intruder, that you know Sam Raimi has incredible eye for filming and for different doing different shots that keep you engaged and keep you scared and keep you guessing at what's going to happen next because you don't in those movies.
00:43:51
Jim Phoenix
Yes.
00:44:06
box
You really don't.
00:44:07
Jim Phoenix
You don't. And the whole Ramey family, Ted Ramey is pretty fucking talented too. i mean, therere
00:44:13
box
is talented. He is.
00:44:15
Jim Phoenix
this is all those things.
00:44:15
box
He should have been in more movies.
00:44:16
Jim Phoenix
yeah
00:44:18
box
You should have been more movies.
00:44:21
Jim Phoenix
I can't talk about that. I'll tell better.
00:44:23
box
Okay.
00:44:24
Jim Phoenix
I can't talk on air. But yeah, absolutely.
00:44:27
box
But.
00:44:28
Jim Phoenix
Evil Dead.
00:44:28
box
So good.
00:44:28
Jim Phoenix
Holy crap. I was so glad you put that on there because I want... Apparently I bumped the Evil Dead for fucking Harold Gamar.
00:44:38
box
Let's just call off right now.
00:44:39
Jim Phoenix
As it should be. As it should be. they're They're both genre-defining, I think.
00:44:45
box
The guests are...
00:44:46
Jim Phoenix
Evil
00:44:47
box
One is a stoner comedy and one is a masterpiece, but sure.
00:44:52
Jim Phoenix
Dead. They're both key, know? They're both key, know? All right, so that's that's a type number one. Okay. I'm going to do a number one.
00:44:57
box
It's so good.
00:44:59
Jim Phoenix
You're talking about doing Combo Box Squared.
00:45:02
box
Yeah.
00:45:03
Jim Phoenix
This is a movie from Combo Box.
00:45:10
Jim Phoenix
1989.
00:45:11
box
No.
00:45:12
Jim Phoenix
Yes, from one. I was like, I can't wait to tell the director that you guys did the movie. And then John Combo trashed the shit out of him.
00:45:17
box
Look, look, I, I did not say anything bad.
00:45:19
Jim Phoenix
I'm like, I can't wait not to tell David about this at all.
00:45:24
box
I just,
00:45:24
Jim Phoenix
I know. I you know. but was like, i was like, it was it was it during COVID, I think, or right before.
00:45:28
box
I didn't, and was the p it was beat. absolutely during COVID.
00:45:32
Jim Phoenix
during covid so remember walking around town listening to like getting i was on my phone box i was on my phone getting the contact information for the director to send him a link to the fucking podcast because i think he would got a kick out of it and then as i was like typing shit out and here the combo box the john combo just tear the fuck i hate this fucking phone like oh fuck Delete backspace, backspace, backspace.
00:46:01
Jim Phoenix
Delete draft.
00:46:02
Jim Phoenix
Pretend this shit never happens.
00:46:02
box
and I had no problem with it. I just said the second one was better. And also that there were just so many goddamn lamps.
00:46:10
Jim Phoenix
Too many laughs.
00:46:10
box
It's like tons of lamps.
00:46:11
Jim Phoenix
So many laughs. For those...
00:46:13
box
The set designer is like, lamp, lamp, lamp, lamp. It's all going to be lamps.
00:46:18
Jim Phoenix
was probably just a fucking holiday. end For those that don't know or didn't watch a... Or didn't listen to a combo box like seven years ago...
00:46:26
box
From seven years ago.
00:46:28
Jim Phoenix
we're talking about Puppet Master. The 1989 cult classic.
00:46:31
box
and first The first one?
00:46:33
Jim Phoenix
The first one.
00:46:34
box
The first one?
00:46:34
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, the first one.
00:46:34
box
Or just all of them?
00:46:36
Jim Phoenix
No, for me, just the first one. I didn't watch all of them.
00:46:38
box
Okay.
00:46:38
Jim Phoenix
I just like maybe watched the first two or three, that's about it.
00:46:41
box
I've watched five of them.
00:46:41
Jim Phoenix
But David Schmuller is director.
00:46:43
box
I've watched five of them.
00:46:44
Jim Phoenix
There's five. Oh, fuck.
00:46:46
box
Yeah.
00:46:47
Jim Phoenix
That's...
00:46:47
box
And Retro Puppet Master because MST3K did it. Well, Riftrax did it.
00:46:51
Jim Phoenix
No, no, no. as that
00:46:52
box
Anyway. Okay, first Puppet Master.
00:46:53
Jim Phoenix
I love the originals. I love the originals because it's something that
00:46:57
box
It's so weird.
00:46:59
Jim Phoenix
okay I'll read the thing.
00:47:01
box
It's... Okay, go.
00:47:02
Jim Phoenix
A group of psychics reunite at a creepy hotel.
00:47:02
box
Read it. Read the thing. They're...
00:47:05
Jim Phoenix
so weman like a hope That's why those lamps are just in quite old hotels. And discover the colleagues' deadly puppets, each brought to life by ancient soul-transfering Egyptian master. you know
00:47:16
box
They're...
00:47:16
Jim Phoenix
And they they're they're to kill Nazis, I think.
00:47:16
box
They're... They're
00:47:20
Jim Phoenix
but The puppets are like escaping Nazis.
00:47:21
box
entertain but they are the good guys because
00:47:25
Jim Phoenix
They are absolutely... In this film, the
00:47:27
box
They are fighting Nazis.
00:47:29
Jim Phoenix
And I,
00:47:30
box
America, take note. They're fighting the Nazis. They're doing the good deed.
00:47:34
box
They're becoming puppets.
00:47:35
Jim Phoenix
they're masters, the puppets, the puppets, masters.
00:47:36
box
Everybody, let's become puppets.
00:47:40
Jim Phoenix
And the weird thing is because it's, they're kind of attacking, they're kind of doing this. I felt more for the puppets than I did for the actors.
00:47:50
box
e Oh, yeah.
00:47:53
Jim Phoenix
And Paula Motsen and you know William Hickey, these are Jimmy Skaggs and Irene Miracle.
00:47:53
box
100%. a hundred percent
00:48:00
Jim Phoenix
They are great acting. there This is an early film for a lot of them, but...
00:48:02
box
Yeah. I mean, it's 80s acting, but yes.
00:48:08
Jim Phoenix
80s. We go to the lamps. If you've never seen Puppet Master, it is worth it. Apparently, according to Box, allegedly, the second one might be a bit betters.
00:48:19
box
I like the second one.
00:48:20
Jim Phoenix
But I can never, i like the first one. oh You know.
00:48:24
box
Look, okay, i I felt like it had too much going on because I wanted to see more puppets. And because it was a puppet master.
00:48:31
Jim Phoenix
You got a lot of master of it.
00:48:33
box
And but then we had psychics. And I'm like, there's just there's puppets and psychics and they're all wiggling around.
00:48:40
Jim Phoenix
Then puppet psychics. One of the puppets, like, oh, reindeer minds.
00:48:43
box
But the second one, like, explains it more. So I think that was my only thing is i just wanted more puppets.
00:48:47
Jim Phoenix
Sure. Yeah, which second one is a natural continuation of it.
00:48:52
box
u
00:48:53
Jim Phoenix
It's not like they didn't rebrand like Chud 2 did.
00:48:54
box
They try to do a good continuation throughout it.
00:48:58
Jim Phoenix
But that's my number one. Puppet Masters 1, 1989 with David Schmoller. So, that's not bad.
00:49:03
box
It's fun.
00:49:04
Jim Phoenix
Wow, 49 minutes, not bad. That's our top 10.
00:49:07
box
I know.
00:49:08
Jim Phoenix
That's our top 10, including all of these for non-exorcist films.
00:49:09
box
That's our top ten. Possessions. Yeah.
00:49:13
Jim Phoenix
Our first big listicle.
00:49:15
box
Professional exercise. Oh, wait.
00:49:17
box
Professional possession.
00:49:19
Jim Phoenix
Possessionists. Possessionists. And if you like this list, wait until next time we're doing Bruce Campbell's. Yeah. And you know what?
00:49:28
box
I love Bruce Campbell.
00:49:29
Jim Phoenix
Bubble Hotep's going pretty hot for me.
00:49:31
box
Bobo Hotel is pretty fun.
00:49:33
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:49:33
box
That's a good movie.
00:49:35
Jim Phoenix
And it's weird because I only like it by myself. I can't watch it with other people.
00:49:40
box
Why?
00:49:42
Jim Phoenix
It's a bit slow at times and the whole how Elvis, you know, he starts with Elvis and
00:49:45
box
i thought you were going to say it's too sexy and you you're like, I just, I can't.
00:49:48
Jim Phoenix
Well, a little bit because Elvis is making the comments in the nursing home. So it's kind of like, but I love it. Wow. That's it. Wow. Cool.
00:49:59
Jim Phoenix
So coming up in two more weeks, we've got Bruce Campbell.
00:50:02
box
so Yeah, we're going to plug our new thing. bru
00:50:07
Jim Phoenix
Right.
00:50:07
box
Oh, I'm actually going to be in Hungary.
00:50:14
Jim Phoenix
Really?
00:50:14
box
and Yeah.
00:50:16
Jim Phoenix
you're going to a live from Hungary.
00:50:18
box
Yeah, we'll go live.
00:50:21
Jim Phoenix
We're going to do live from Hungary in two weeks.
00:50:21
box
Budapest.
00:50:23
Jim Phoenix
And we'll have Box Humans. All that a more and more. On the next streaming demons. This is Jim Phoenix saying hello. Box Human, my co-host, saying goodbyes.
00:50:35
box
I'm saying goodbye.
00:50:36
Jim Phoenix
And Terry Reid is going to be for number 100. So stay tuned for Terry Reid.
00:50:41
box
that would be awesome.
00:50:41
Jim Phoenix
Bye, y'all. Like and subscribe. Fast forward to your friends. Go out into the universe.
00:50:49
box
Come by our magazine when it's ready.
00:50:52
Jim Phoenix
Yeah.
00:50:53
box
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00:50:56
Jim Phoenix
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00:51:02
box
i have a story in there.
00:51:26
Jim Phoenix
Yeah, motherfucker.