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EPISODE 13 - BOSTON CELTICS UP 2-0. (some Drake Maye talk at the end)
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Boston Celtics looking good. LFG!
Also hearing good things about Drake Maye out of camp.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
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savageboston
All right. What's up guys. Welcome back to the Savage Boston podcast. We are here it is June 10th at eight at night and we're recording this week's podcast.
Celtics vs. Mavericks Game Analysis
00:00:11
savageboston
We're two and oh in the series in the finals. So they they won the first two games. Celtics of course and what we want to start with because we're all we we're starting to talk about it before we started recording I told everyone save it for the pod um I think the the biggest best entry point is that the Mavericks really I think blew it badly in game two like that was to me clearly the game they should have won I think you know like I actually looking back I don't know how they didn't win we just pulled up this chart for the Celtics when they shoot under 30% from three um they are six and nine now on the season ah and one of those games was you know they only shot 26% in game two and so again like if you're the Mavericks
00:01:07
savageboston
I don't know what you do scheme wise. I know Jason Kidd wants to play mind games or something, but like I don't know what you do to get back in the series. I know you're going home and you might ride that emotion, but if the Celtics just shoot, like I don't know, 35% from three, which is like very obtainable for them, um they smoke them. Smoke them so yeah, maybe Kyrie has a better game. Maybe something's different But I just I think we said it a week ago the Celtics match up really well against this Mavericks team and you've basically seen that to a tee so Snooty why don't you lead off and give me your your initial kind of takes did the did the Mavericks blow that game?
00:01:49
Snooty
So they entirely blew it. And I think it's over. I mean, I think it it's done. Like that was the game for them to win. It was game two. you You know, all you heard after game one was, oh, well, you know, Dallas where they won game two and all these other series where they lost game one. And, you know, that's fine, but. You know, they're supposed to rebound. They're supposed to give you their best effort. You know, the Celtics haven't been good at home in game two. So, you know, this, this year in the series, um, or this, uh, playoff run. And, um, they came out, they shot like absolute shit.
00:02:20
Snooty
I mean, that was what they're, what did we say? Their fifth or sixth worst three point shooting percentage game all season.
00:02:27
savageboston
Yeah.
00:02:27
Snooty
And and they won by by seven and realistically it should have been more, you know, but they kind of fucked around at the end. But. I mean, I don't see what they can do. You just blew an absolute golden opportunity to steal home court advantage and make this a series. I think they're done. um I said before the series, I think it was five. I still think it's five because I actually think the Mavericks win game three. And then I think Celtics won four and five and closed out in five.
00:02:57
savageboston
I actually, to be honest, I really think the Celtics, I know people are saying this today, but like they really have an opportunity to sweep. I know that we're saying like just because they go home and Mavericks have momentum and stuff like that, but in reality, I don't know, man, like I could see the Celtics coming out there and just shooting lights out from three in the hostile crowd. They've played great on the road this whole postseason. And like I said, like the Celtics, who in the right mind said that the Mavericks were deeper than the Celtics? I think it might've been like Skip Bayless, but like what a fucking terrible take. I mean, look at, even if let's say the Mavericks come back and win all these games, right? Like, and and we sound like schmucks.
00:03:36
savageboston
That's one thing. But just looking right now and on paper, how could you possibly suggest that the Mavericks are deeper than the Celtics?
00:03:47
Snooty
i I mean, I don't know. um Like realistically, if you want to put, if you were to rank the players in this series, you want to put Luke at one fine. There's a very real argument that Brown and pre-pre this series starting that Brown and Tatum could have been two and three in, or Tatum and Brown in some order. And then he would be four and then five through like, I don't know, nine or 10 would be Celtics.
00:04:07
savageboston
Yeah. yeah
00:04:15
Snooty
So it's like they're, it's not only are they deeper, but they're like substantially better than, than the, ah like, obviously that's the subtle distinction, but like to say they're deeper, but like they're substantially better across the board. So.
Mavericks' Shooting Woes
00:04:33
Snooty
I mean, I don't know. I don't, I don't know how they make this a series. I just feel like there's going to be one game where like, just, I don't know if something happens, like Luca goes crazy. Kyrie makes a two shot. and then game four, they come back and it's like, nope, they're done.
00:04:47
Snooty
But if the Celtics win three, it's a sweep. Game three, it's a sweep because there's there's absolutely no way Dallas is gonna have anything in game four.
00:04:50
savageboston
Yeah.
00:04:55
savageboston
Yeah.
00:04:55
Bret
Yeah, I think I'd say they fold if that comes to the case.
00:04:56
savageboston
gotcha bre
00:04:59
Bret
And I agree. I think a sweep is really on the table. And what's funny is is going in towards it, I like I kept saying people are widely overstating the impact that Luke and Kyrie can have and that it comes out in depth.
00:05:08
savageboston
Gotcha.
00:05:13
Bret
And I know the last pod, you know, we ended up talking about how okay the top two sort of cancel each other are out but the next four it's clearly on the Celtics so like it just comes down to players really three through six on the rosters and it was our clear advantage and uh i guess i even gave Dallas more credit than i should have because yeah they they look very bad and this matchup like like favors the Celtics big time on how we look Now granted, you know while we had a really shitty shooting night, ah Dallas had like an equally shitty shooting night.
00:05:47
Bret
you know They shot 23% from three pointers. They were like missing a ton of free throws last night as well, so really bad shooting from them. But you know they've also they're not a good free throw shooting team throughout the playoffs. They've
Celtics' Defensive Strengths and Tatum's Role
00:06:01
Bret
been a pretty poor free throw shooting team.
00:06:03
savageboston
You know actually, Brett, do you know the stat on their free throw shooting? Because I did hear this today. Do you know they were ranked 16th out of 16 in the playoffs in free throw shooting?
00:06:11
Bret
Yeah, they were last, yeah. I don't know what their percentage was, but like there it's not, this is this isn't new for them.
00:06:14
savageboston
Brutal. I don't know either.
00:06:19
Bret
Their three-point shooting percentage isn't this bad. like Teams don't shoot 23%, but like yeah, we don't shoot 26%, right? I think for the season, we we were 35% for the year or something like that, maybe 38. But like as ah as a team, so like yeah, okay, we had a bad three-point shooting night. They obviously had a bad three-point shooting night and bad shooting night in general. But the thing that I look at is like we missed a lot of open looks and primarily had them. ah We played better defense. Like I think our defense dictated a lot of that shooting versus the latter, whereas for them, I don't think their defense really dictated our poor shooting night. Like we had plenty of open looks. I think it was like in the first half, they were like, they're like, yeah, the Celtics are like one and 13 or two and 13, but they've had like seven or eight
00:07:09
Bret
open three point attempts like we've had like they were wide open looks and we just couldn't we couldn't hit and like every like so every team shot that so I expect better shooting next game
00:07:14
savageboston
It is Charlotte, chef.
00:07:21
Bret
from both teams. But at the end of the day, we just have more shooters like ah Kyrie and Luca are not going to be able to carry them and and Kyrie's played pretty pretty poor this entire this entire finals like he has not showed up not looked great. I think Luca while statistically had a dominant first half really had a mediocre second half didn't really finish off all that strong, had like eight turnovers for the game. And like some of those were just kind of like Hail Mary lob passes that ended up being turned around. And he just looked gassed and looked like run down. And I just think it's one of those areas where they just don't have nearly enough talent around them as they should. And the other thing that was kind of funny is going in towards it, a lot of people were talking about
00:08:08
Bret
Uh, you know how good their bigs have been playing with gafford and lively and they got good defense there and lob city and all that stuff but in reality like I think they they had one le updunk maybe two last night and trying to remember but like for the most part we pretty much neutralize that and then on the defensive end like I don't think they're doing anything all that impressive anything more than any other regular center does so like therere They're mediocre at best everywhere else beyond like Luca at this point.
00:08:39
Bret
So clearly they're not going to get carried.
00:08:39
savageboston
I think I saw I think I saw a lot, you know, when I, when I see lively playing defense on Tatum, Tatum looks a little flustered, but to be fair, he's looked pretty flustered in the first two, you know, two games. Obviously he's taken the responsibility now of being the guy who's going to take the ball, drive the lane and and dish. and that's the role he's taking. I know it's been, I'm sure it talked about ad nauseam and we texted about it last night and everyone on the radio talks about it. It's like Tatum's performance. And I've heard wild takes today, whether people are saying like, he's awful, he can't shoot. Other people are saying he's actually the MVP. I'm like, okay, it's got to be somewhere in between. And I think like, yes, he's, would you consider your best player? I think he's playing excellent defense. He's facilitating really well.
00:09:27
savageboston
Drive and dishing all that being said could he shoot better? Yes, like if he just hit three more He's had a few wide-open looks that he's missing he hits a few more of those We're talking about him very differently today like he is the MVP guaranteed you know And I think maybe if game three and four or five, whatever, he comes out and he plays like we know he can and scores, he'll be the MVP. But like but that's kind of the the big talking point with him is like we watch him play and you know he did he really didn't shoot well.
00:10:00
savageboston
And when a guy is your primary score and your leading score, you need that from him. Now, there's potential. You don't actually need it because if the Celtics are this deep,
00:10:09
Bret
Yeah, we don't.
00:10:12
savageboston
then you actually don't need it. Like what's looking, we're all watching these games and you're like, Jesus, Celtics are a way better roster. I mean, that's the only thing that comes to mind when I watch them. Like you got guys coming off the bench for the, something you know, Porzingis is off the bench right now and you know, the the the third, fourth, fifth guys in between Drew Holliday and Derek White. I mean, these are really excellent players everywhere. So again, the funny hot take was the real MVP is Brad Stevens because he's the one that that constructed this roster.
00:10:43
Snooty
but i think there's an art
00:10:43
Bret
Yeah, no. he should be well Brad Stevens should be recognized that way.
00:10:45
Snooty
sir
00:10:47
Bret
but like Sorry to cut you off, Snooty, but like just real quick on Tatum. I agree. I think people are going wild stances in both directions, and people can't like just accept it for what it is at this point. like The guy's clearly on a slump. He's not shooting well.
00:11:04
savageboston
Yeah.
00:11:04
Bret
Okay, like fine, every professional athlete goes through a slump. But the thing that I've been preaching from Tatum ah for a while now, we're honestly, like a whole season is basically he's making smart plays. Like what pisses me off with Tatum is when he gets an ISO ball and he takes like a mid range jumper fade away after bleeding out the entire clock without moving the ball without doing anything. And I'm like, what are we doing? like that does That serves no purpose. And in general, he's not doing that. Now, he did take 22 shots or something like that last night for a guy that's not shooting well. That's not ideal. But like I had a hard time like thinking back towards it and saying, like
00:11:45
Bret
how many shots did he take where you're like, that was a really bad, like that wasn't the right play, right? I look at it for the most part and say, by and large, he's playing mature basketball and doing the right play and it's just not dropping for him. So like, yeah, he's not shooting well. And that's not okay as being a superstar elite best player on the team. But it also doesn't mean he sucks, right? He's doing some serviceable things.
00:12:10
savageboston
It does not stop.
00:12:11
Bret
And I also think And then on the on the back end, when people are like, well, what do you expect when he's getting doubled or triple teamed? I'm like, he's not getting doubled or triple teamed. I'm sorry, if you drive the basket by your guard and the guard's trailing you, and then the two centers that are basically on either end of the post co collapse on you, that's not getting triple teamed, that's just you going into defense.
00:12:32
savageboston
Normal de defense.
00:12:32
Bret
So, correct, normal defense. And he's just got to finish stronger at the basket. So I think like that sort of excuse is wildly overblown. I think the whole, he's getting triple doubles and doing the intangibles.
00:12:42
Snooty
you
00:12:45
Bret
Assist wise, yes, better on the turnovers, better on the assists, but like rebounds, I'm like he's gonna get the rebounds, because defensively what they're doing is is they're putting him on the big, so that if they try to switch off, they're not switching off into like Al Horford, they're switching off into Tatum, and forcing them to be creative that way. So like, he's playing in a big position, and he's gonna get the rebounds, because he's down low with that area, So like eating them up.
00:13:09
savageboston
hmm
00:13:10
Bret
And at this point in the NBA, everyone's jacking up threes. It's easy to get a rebound because no one's really contesting you. So I think he's making positive plays. I think he's making the right plays. He's not having a great series. He's doing okay. And for an elite player, like you need to do better than okay. I expect him to have a better than okay game, but like people are wildly overstating both ends of the spectrum. And it's so stupid.
00:13:35
Snooty
I think he's having a good series, um but it's not what relative to what we want him to be or expect him to be.
00:13:36
savageboston
hmm
00:13:43
Snooty
It's not there. But the thing I will say is that in years past, he would get in slumps like this and he would just continue to jack the ball up. Right. And that was the criticism of them or a criticism of them was that like you're shooting your way. You're shooting us out of games because you insist on doing it. And he's not doing that right now. He's he's making the pass. He's he's finding the open shooters. He's doing he's I saw somewhere today that like his driver in this series is like three times his um his average in season like per
00:14:16
Bret
What is that?
00:14:16
savageboston
He's driving a lot, but just to cut in quickly, he's driving a lot. But as you said, like but like in the past, you wouldn't jack him up. Well, you know do you know who left the team in shots?
00:14:27
Snooty
No, no, I know. Well, that was the other thing is like, I'm like to the, on the flip side of it, if you're not going to score cause you're not shooting well, but you're acting the game everywhere else, like fine. And I'm not saying that's what we want all the time from Tatum, but like clearly he's in a swamp of fine, but you can't take a quarter of your team shots and not score.
Celtics' Team Dynamics and Strategy
00:14:50
Snooty
Like you.
00:14:51
savageboston
Yeah, he shot 22, he shot up 22. But to be fair, looking at even like plus, he was six of 22, which again, not what you want you know even if he hits four more of those shots big time different game because then you win by you know uh you win by 15 and you're like man he you know wow he had that game you know but but that's not how it went down but he was still a plus six in the game which is one of the higher you know drew holiday was a plus six d white was a plus eight somehow jaylen brown was a minus three
00:15:21
savageboston
Don't know how that came out. Porzingis was a plus 12 for the minutes he was in. So just sometimes a plus minus obviously can like show the impact, um you know, versus like, you know, Luca Doncic and Kyrie were both just minus threes. But look what look at the bench lively for the Mavericks was a minus 15. You know, it shows when he came in off the bench. they couldn't generate often. You know what I mean? Like, so I like, I like looking at plus minus because I feel like in basketball, yeah, there's sometimes things you can't control, but at least a good on the surface stat for your general impact on the game.
00:15:55
Snooty
I saw ah ah so something where Porzingis, when Porzingis is on the floor, they're plus either 54 or 44 of the series, and when he's not on the floor, it's it's even.
00:15:55
savageboston
And then Jason taking them. Yeah, go for it.
00:16:03
savageboston
Yeah.
00:16:06
savageboston
Whoo.
00:16:07
Snooty
so like like When he's on the floor, they do really fucking well. but when you saw
00:16:10
savageboston
They can't go near the paint, dude. He's destroying their lob game. I mean, it's like single-handedly, you know, his his impact on the defensive end has been incredible. Barring Luca, having some silly shots, which he's still, he's he's gonna do. He's an extremely talented player.
Luka Doncic's Performance and Fitness
00:16:27
savageboston
Like, I'll give him all the credit in the world.
00:16:27
Snooty
up.
00:16:29
savageboston
Very talented, think he should be in better shape, period. Like, I know, like, you know, you're an NBA player, he's like, how old, like 23 or something, or 24, whatever old he is. Like he's got to take care of his body because he's not gonna be at this level He's gonna get really gassed and you're seeing it in this series It's like he can't stick with anybody on defense guys if Tatum shot a normal rate We would again won by 15 or 20 again so like I think I think Luke is gonna work on his fitness And that's not a shocking take everyone has said this you know like but he can't be out there gassed after like a couple defensive series You know
00:17:05
Snooty
You have to be like chiseled.
00:17:06
Bret
Oh, but well the thing
00:17:07
Snooty
You just have to be like Paul. You're never chiseled but Paul.
00:17:10
savageboston
Gotta be in shape, and you know, just, you're an NBA player.
00:17:12
Bret
not No, he looked gassed and I think he's bank banking in those injuries with like his chest contusion and all this other stuff. so like He's he just overdramatized it, but like I was trying to look it up.
00:17:21
savageboston
Yeah,
00:17:25
Bret
I don't have the splits. By the way, I love the fact that I said Tatum for a guy who's shooting bad, shouldn't shoot 22 shots, and then like right afterwards you're like, you know how many shots he took? But anyways.
00:17:35
savageboston
yeah you shot 22 times.
00:17:36
Bret
ah I was trying to look it up. like I feel like Luca made like nine field goals in the first half and he only, I and i think he only made three in the second half. So like again, like he really did not play well in the second half and showed fatigue and like was like fading out.
00:17:50
Snooty
And.
00:17:50
savageboston
Yeah.
00:17:56
Bret
So like he was just he did not have a good second do not have a good second half. And even in the first half, like Yeah, he scored on us and like he was shooting lights out like he was shooting like 68 almost 70% for the first half like what is he four for five from three point range?
00:18:10
savageboston
yeah
00:18:11
Bret
He was shooting lights out and I get it. He's got that potential. But like I even said it at a halftime. Like there's no way he replicates that in the second half. Like there's just no way. And he didn't, he kind of came back down to reality. And ah yeah, he just looks like a guy that just, it doesn't have the endurance, but I know we've talked about it. He looks like shit on defense, like shit on defense.
00:18:34
savageboston
You do it.
00:18:34
Bret
It's laughable how bad he looks on defense.
00:18:36
savageboston
I think everyone's like, oh, Luca MVP or this and that. like Hey man, Tatum are truly having opposite series. Like Luca can score. He can score from anywhere. He can still somehow have these like slow, weird drives. Like he has awkward shots, single foot jump shots and he he knocks it down. So he can score from anywhere, but he's gassed as hell. He can't run. He's not, he someone gets his boards cause he's six, seven. But again, he like, you can't play defense versus Tatum. Can't knock down a shot, but he's doing everything else. And again, like,
00:19:10
savageboston
I don't wanna, it's like sucks to have Tatum's taking the focus of the complaints, but like you watch the game and what does the eyeball test tell you? You don't even need the stat sheet when you watch it. You're like, geez, Tatum, like some of these shots, man, like these are open looks for you. These are shots where you're too skilled to miss some of these shots. Not like you gotta to shoot 60%, but he's too good to shoot six for 22,
Celtics vs. Mavericks Series Predictions
00:19:33
savageboston
Jason Tatum. And so, you know, we don't know what's gonna happen for the rest of the series, but I can't imagine, just prediction wise, I think the Celtics, I would say I initially predicted Celtics in six, I'd move it down out of Celtics in five, but I think there's a real chance they sweep only because unless there's some matchup, or again the Celtics are extremely cold, it's just a law of averages.
00:19:40
Bret
Bye.
00:19:55
savageboston
Like I expect Hauser to come in and not go like 0 for 5 or whatever he was from three.
00:19:55
Snooty
Mm hmm.
00:20:00
savageboston
He's gonna hit two of those at least. Right, there's all these guys that I think you need the law of averages to to to to even itself out. These guys aren't gonna shoot, 10 of 39 or whatever, every game from three. They're a better shooting team than that. So that's that's kind of my take. I think Celtics, I think they take at least one of two in Dallas. I'd be very surprised. If we're sitting here 2-2, game five and like, fuck, it's a series, I would be really surprised. I think the Celtics are a far superior team. So that's my opinion.
00:20:33
Bret
Yeah, I mean, the matchups are insanely favoring the Celtics. like i I look at it and say, You have to like ask yourself, like what can Dallas do schematically with the personnel they have to change the course of the series? Because it's like, yeah, we talked earlier, like everyone shot poorly last night from three-point range. But it's not like the Mavs have a ton of shooters like we do.
00:20:57
savageboston
Yes.
00:20:58
Bret
like I think PJ Washington is a better shooter than what he's showing like and should be playing better. i mean uh you know he hit his first three pointer like to open up and they went on their first little run to start off the game but then he was like one for seven or something like that like he's a better shooter than what he's showing and obviously kairi is a better shooter than what he's showing and i expect kairi to have a better game in Dallas, but even if Kyrie and Luca go off and score like 30 apiece and they're shooting like 40 something percent from the, you know, 40 percent, 50 percent from the floor, they don't have anything else around them.
00:21:26
savageboston
Yeah.
00:21:35
Bret
And they have nothing schematically that can slow us down because when Luca and Kyrie on the floor, the Celtics are absolutely exploiting them. So happy they are. But when they switch off onto them, I mean, Luca is a freaking turnstile, and Kyrie is like a midget compared to Brown, Tatum, ah KP had Kyrie at one point, and I was...
00:21:55
savageboston
he's He's a liability in the defense right now.
00:21:57
Bret
They both are.
00:21:57
savageboston
Kyrie, like, yeah, he Kyrie, like, Luca's tall with letting guys run by him, but Kyrie isn't contributing on defense.
00:21:58
Bret
They both are.
00:22:04
savageboston
I mean, look at the effort from Dirk White, let's say, for instance, versus Kyrie on defense, or True Holiday. I mean, this is what happens in the NBA Finals in the playoffs, dude.
00:22:10
Bret
Lu- Lu?
00:22:14
savageboston
When it clamps down and shit gets tight, you need to be a really excellent scoring team to put up points. Like, look at Indiana. Like, Indiana series, Indiana got buckets, man. Like, that team could score. They're the highest scoring team all year, and they gave you a run. I know you swept them, so, you know, I get it, but we watched those games. All of them were close. All of them went to the wire, because that team was tough and scored. And like they have more offensive output than this Mavs team. I don't know if just Kyrie is just shook by the de defense the defensive effort. Derek White giving him fits. like i don't I don't know. But Kyrie looked so off. Maybe it was the Boston Garden, the Mystique. Who knows? But he just looks really off.
00:22:56
Snooty
The Pacers are much tougher matchup because the Pacers kind of play more similarly to the Celtics than the Mavericks do and that like they'll and roll out a bunch of guys who can shoot.
00:23:04
savageboston
Yeah.
00:23:07
Snooty
They're not all going to put up, you know, none of them are going to put up 30 points, you know, a couple of those nights excluding, but, you know, they can all score at least, you know, 10, 15, 20 points or something like that on any given night.
00:23:19
Bret
You mean they're more like the Celtics, not like the Mavs, right?
00:23:19
Snooty
So it's.
00:23:23
Snooty
they um play more similarly to the Celtics than the Mavs.
00:23:26
Bret
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. You said the Mav, and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:23:28
Snooty
Yeah, yeah. Well, the other way around. So it's it's like, we're like, they play a more similar style of the Celtics than the Mavericks, which the Mavericks are through two person team, right?
00:23:37
Bret
I agree.
Mavericks' Gameplay and Strategy Issues
00:23:41
Snooty
And I think there's only two things the Mavericks could maybe do, which are, I've heard, you know, calls for Tim Hardaway Jr. to play more um with, he can't defend either, but maybe just like, well, fuck it. We can't defend. Let's just go. try to score more, I guess, um and then put less of put less defensive attention on on Tatum and hope that his shooting shit stays that way and just try to stuff everybody else.
00:24:10
savageboston
They just play they like the Mavericks are playing this like this half court like half court ball. You know what I mean? It's like it's like you're playing three on three at the end and you just have one hoop. They just it's slow. They go out there. They come down. Luca moves at like. 40% speed, and then he'll just get you one-on-one and back down a little little jab step, one foot turnaround. And to be fair, he hits it a lot. So i get I get it that it works for them, but I don't know how they put up so many points this year, unless maybe they just ran a lot more when the when the the court was more wide open. But they look slow, the Mavericks, they don't look like they run, versus Indiana wanted to run, go, shoot, threes. you know It was a very, very different team.
00:24:54
savageboston
And also, to be fair in the Indiana series, Nemharth went berserk. If Nemharth didn't hit 80% from 3, that series isn't even remotely close. Like they had guys that were outliers playing really, really well versus obviously right now Kyrie you'd expect a lot better from is playing very underwhelming basketball. So I don't know, like maybe I don't know if they can speed up the tempo. Jason Kidd, I heard that that was the exome. He came in the game on purpose to try to speed up the tempo. And the guy looks like a clown. He couldn't like he hit like one three, but like it's not an offensive basketball player.
00:25:27
Snooty
now he's now he he's you'd more
00:25:27
savageboston
He doesn't play offense.
00:25:29
Bret
No, they can't change the tempo now because, like again, Luca can't do it.
00:25:30
savageboston
You know, outreach
00:25:36
Bret
And it's just not the style of play. They've played the entire year. So now, all of a sudden, you've got to flip the script and say, this is how we're going to play. like
Celtics' Defensive Tactics Against Mavericks
00:25:44
Bret
it's just not It's just not possible. I mean, Luca does slow it down intentionally. on his play, and then just kind of drains it out, gets a possession, ISOs, and then either looks to make a turnaround freak shot, drive the lane, or make a pass. But like that's literally their entire offense. So it makes it easy for us.
00:26:03
savageboston
Yeah.
00:26:04
Bret
And I i know some people are saying like we're not double teaming, Luca. We essentially are, because like we're we may switch off from time to time, but like we're the whoever gets picked and switched, Like trails them a little bit because like we know that our rotation defense is quick enough To close out on some of these other guys like they just don't know how to close So like we are putting pressure on Luca to close him out And essentially doubling them up But they just they can't flip the script on their offense and then all of a sudden say like we're gonna be a running gun Move the ball up tempo team like the Pacers play Because they just it's not how they've played the entire year
00:26:43
Snooty
their're best
00:26:43
savageboston
It just seemed to not match up. Well, I mean, that's we keep saying the same stuff. They just don't match up. It's like weird to watch. Like have this team somehow beat, you know, beat the Timberwolves who had just a really bad series. And then they beat. Who else did is this? Did the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets? Not this team.
00:26:59
Bret
And yeah, they beat OKC, which was the one seed.
00:26:59
Snooty
ah beat
00:26:59
savageboston
So.
00:27:02
Bret
But OKC was clearly you know not ready. They've got a young talent, but they're not at that level.
00:27:08
Snooty
all their best
00:27:08
savageboston
Young guys.
00:27:11
Snooty
An OKC plays like, again, they gave them the most trouble, but they play like a style more closely resembling Boston than than than Dallas. So again, they gave them the most trouble, but they're a bunch of young guys couldn't do it, right? The Celtics are a better version of that, or at least a more experienced like version of that.
00:27:33
savageboston
Yeah.
00:27:33
Snooty
Makes sense.
00:27:35
savageboston
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's been um it's been crazy. I mean i feel like that like i don't want to jinx i'm like feel like I don't want to something. or it's you know and But the realization is, like I said, good matchup. Celtics are playing better. They've been a better team. And they really should win the series. And we really should have a title, which I'm like so pumped to potentially see this happen. Uh, it just, it feels like we're somehow do and you know, the other teams are spottering and it's just like, would be so, so sweet and it'd be great for Boston ah to be back on top. Um, so yeah, so I'm, I'm excited for it. And we got game three is Wednesday night and then game four already scheduled up for Friday. So they only have a quick, quick turnaround for those two. I don't know if game five, if it happens, is that Sunday?
00:28:26
Bret
Yeah, yep.
00:28:27
savageboston
Okay, so it's Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. Got you. Well, before, just to shift gears for one fast second, I just have to read a tweet. A quick tweet from our friend, friend of the pod, ah Taylor Kiles, who I had to quote to tweet today. He said, Drake may just slid up in the pocket and threw a sidearm pass on the move to Jalen Polk during an end of half drill. Looked so cool that your grill peppers emulated the play from the sideline.
Shift to Patriots' Training Camp Updates
00:28:59
savageboston
Care to comment anyone Drake may sidearm throw.
00:29:02
Snooty
Everything that <unk>ve I read about today was that he lit the world on fire, that he was the best quarterback out there, that he seems to be ahead of schedule.
00:29:10
savageboston
Yeah.
00:29:13
Snooty
um I'm not getting ahead of myself here, but like that's where it's worth, that he was he's ahead of schedule of where they expected him to be or where they wanted him to be. He really, really well, the offense was better. um Not great, but better. um
00:29:29
savageboston
Zappy had a bad day. I heard that.
00:29:31
Snooty
Yeah, that's whatever is happy socks The
00:29:34
savageboston
He'll be caught.
00:29:34
Bret
he shouldn't He shouldn't make the roster.
00:29:36
savageboston
He'll be caught.
00:29:37
Snooty
only way is if Milton is just like such a project like mess that they're like But I'm saying like if if Milton the holy Jesus like you can't you are nowhere near ready to play right now you know what I mean then that's like
00:29:37
savageboston
No, he'll be caught.
00:29:45
savageboston
They can't hold them on their ass there, you know?
00:29:47
Bret
They can't carry four quarterbacks though.
00:29:49
savageboston
I don't think they will.
00:30:00
Snooty
do you want to just keep the one court, I mean, look, I would cut them or trade them or whatever. It's, I don't see if percent goes down, then you're rolling with may. Um, I think one of the interesting things that came out today was that they had Kayden Williams playing right tackle with, and when you playing right guard, uh,
00:30:17
savageboston
yeah
00:30:18
Snooty
Which, I mean, I get it. if They're just playing with combinations and working different things right now. But it, that was his natural position in college, Kane Williams. And if, and when he's got a guard as he is a tackle, if not better. So, I mean, look, I don't care. If those two play on that side, you got Andrews in the middle and you can city, if city, so plays left guard, then that means you go four or five spots locked up and you can help and scheme.
00:30:40
savageboston
Yeah.
00:30:42
savageboston
We need that.
00:30:42
Bret
Thank
00:30:43
savageboston
That dude you signed from Pitt. I forget his name. Is it a gone quiz?
00:30:47
Snooty
Chuck.
00:30:49
savageboston
What's his last name?
00:30:50
Snooty
but I know I can't I don't know You'll
00:30:51
savageboston
Okay, I forget it was I know but yeah dude from from Pitt who will see I mean it happens to be just the top top two or three most important position on the offense It's a pretty big question mark at left tackle, but Yeah could be if he's healthy I know he had a big scare
00:30:52
Bret
you.
00:31:04
Snooty
be Calvin Anderson to it left tackle It
00:31:09
savageboston
um
00:31:10
Snooty
like malaria
00:31:11
savageboston
Yeah, like malaria, which is horrible.
00:31:13
Bret
you
00:31:13
savageboston
But I mean, everything I read today about Drake May going through it was, people are pretty impressed. I mean, he's really all of a sudden popped a bit today and did some stuff that they're like, whoa, like all of a sudden you flash and you're like, oh, okay. And what I thought was funny is not one time did anyone say anything like that about Mac Jones. I mean, at any point, no one said, whoa, you know, they said like, oh, he could probably run an offense. But like, this is a different, there's a different vibe going around, which I just love to hear the talent, the talent being there first. Like, I like, I like that. I like hearing that there's ability and talent and you got to coach it, but just that it flashes. And he's got, I heard he's got a couple of soft throws today, he squeeze, you know, he just did some stuff today. And Jaheim Bell,
00:32:01
savageboston
I'm hearing good stuff about too, an athletic like late round tight end. He's just like popping off in practice. So I don't know where that's going to go, but I think he'll probably make the roster.
00:32:10
Snooty
he's like ah He's like an HVAC move tight end type of guy out of Florida State.
00:32:15
savageboston
Yeah.
00:32:15
Snooty
ah I think the character concerns, he's a little bit of like a tweener in terms of like what position he'd play, but if you if you can move him around and and use him effectively, he has the athletic ability to, and I'm not going to say he's not like this guy, but he's more of the athletic profile of a Aaron Hernandez, than then like a because he was never like a true inline tight end or anything.
00:32:37
savageboston
I love it.
00:32:40
Snooty
but You know, that like Swiss army H back, like, you know, running back full back tight ends, big slot, like, you know, that type of guy, um, which awesome if you can use it, right.
00:32:49
savageboston
I love it.
00:32:51
Snooty
And, you know, so we'll see what happens, but like, he was a, I can't believe he fell to the seventh round to be honest with you, but, um, he was, he's a, he's a freak. So.
00:33:01
savageboston
Well, I just wanted to touch on Patriots very quickly. I don't want to go too crazy. We had lots of Patriots coming up over the whole summer and leading into training camp, which I'm sure I'll be probably going berserk all the time. I didn't kind of want to maybe find out the exact days and then get down there a day or two, which would be really cool just to check it out and see if I can, I don't know, get down there in person, which would be pretty neat. but But all right guys, thanks for tuning in. We'll try to keep it around a half an hour if we can. um And we'll check in next time and potentially have, well actually, probably cross your fingers, have a conclusion to the Celtics hopefully winning winning a title. So we'll see you next time. Peace.
00:33:42
Bret
Based.
00:33:42
Snooty
Yep.