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Healing Through Soul Intelligence – a conversation with author Kristine Genovese
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You may have heard of IQ and EQ but here Kristine Genovese explains how Soul Intelligence helps us to heal from within.
Although Kristine Genovese, the creator of the Soul Intelligence Method, shows little sign of it in this interesting episode she has, because of her family history been called the Spiritual Gangster.
Instead, in this episode of Fit For My Age, Kristine takes host Michael Millward on a fascinating exploration of soul intelligence which includes.
- The links between physical and mental health
- How emotions are energy in motion, and how that energy must be maintained.
- The importance of zones of excellence and zones of genius.
- The difference between our conscious and unconscious minds
- Understanding the messages our bodies give us,
- The power of relaxation
- Holistic approaches to healthy living
- Building an inward facing emotional intelligence
- And a whole lot more
Kristine is featured in the internet series Pillars of Power
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Hello and welcome to Fit For My Age, the health and well-being podcast from Abysida. I am your host, Michael Middleward, the Managing Director of Abbasida.
Guest Introduction: Christine Genovese
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Today, my guest is Christine Genovese, who is a transformative force in holistic health and the author of Healing Through Soul Intelligence.
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Christine is based in Tampa, Florida. I've been to Florida, but not to Tampa. If I do get to go to Tampa, I will make my travel arrangements with the Ultimate Travel Club. It's where I get trade prices on flights and hotels, trains, all sorts of holidays and every type of travel purchase you can imagine.
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Very importantly, on Fit For My Age, we don't tell you what to think, but we do hope to make you think. Hello, Christine. Well, hello. I'm delighted to be here. i am delighted that you are here because it's taken us a little bit of to-ing and fro-ing to get this organized, but we are now here.
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Indeed
Christine's Journey to Holistic Health
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we are. Shall we start by giving us a little bit of background around who Christine Genovese is? Absolutely. Well, given my last name, I'm often referred to as the spiritual gangster. And as I shared with you, I do come by that honestly. I'm originally from New York City, as my my very infamous ancestor, Vito Genovese. But I ah spend most of my time helping people heal from the inside out using a method that's based in bioenergetics.
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And what bioenergetics is, is the correlation between your physical well-being and your mental emotional well-being. It was actually founded in the 1950s by Dr. Alexander Lowen. And it basically says when you don't feel well physically, mentally, and emotionally, you're not doing so hot and vice versa, which is a lot of common sense to me. But my method actually gets to the root cause of what causes the dysfunction in the body. Now, I wasn't always um the spiritual healer and gangster. I came out of the spiritual closet in March of 2020. I spent most of my career as a corporate turnaround specialist trying to find the right people, processes, technology in order for the businesses to thrive and grow.
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When i was unexpectedly plucked out of corporate America, I was given a wonderful exit package that allowed me about nine months time to birth the soul intelligence method.
Exploring the Soul Intelligence Method
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I have been helping hundreds of thousands of people heal ever since. Cool. Sounds really interesting. So you're business executive who takes the opportunity to so review their life and decide that you're going to take a completely different direction and, like you say, pop out of the spiritual closet. Yeah, actually, you know, I think Brandon Bouchard said it great. I think most of us spend a great deal of our time and what we call, or he refers to as our zone of excellence, right? Where you're really good at this role, you're paid very well for it, The people in your life see you as this role, love you in that role. You identify with that role and you stay in it for a long period of time, typically because you know you make a lot of money at it.
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And then there's there comes a point in your life where you're like, is this all there is? At that inflection point, I think that for me, it was finally time for me to rise into what we call your zone of genius, right? And so my zone of genius is really elevating my mission, which is to make the world healthy, mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, and ultimately energetically. No small task then.
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Well, you know, it's not for the faint of heart. We definitely we definitely have an opportunity to do it. But one of the things that I share with people is, you know, I'm really called to teach other people my method. That is really my passion because I want everyone to be able to heal. what holds them back. Truly doing this work in the world is extremely rewarding. And when you make a commitment to heal yourself, not only does that impact you and or the people that you're close to, but it has a butterfly effect. It is if a butterfly changes its flight pattern on one side of the world, it could cause a tsunami on the other side of the world. We're all connected. So when you start to heal you, you actually have an impact on on consciousness itself and everyone connected to it.
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Yes, I can see what you mean, i think. But we'll find out whether or or a bit about that. But yeah what you're saying is that the work that you're doing, your method is based upon the scientific research, which dates back to the 1950s. So that wasn't done by you. That was done by scientists. yes And what you're doing is taking all of that and you've created method to make it more accessible to other people. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I think if I probably have to kind of rewind a little bit and share with people why the method works in the first place, right? um If you go back to grade school, I don't know what you call it in the UK. I think we'd call it primary school because that... Primary? Okay.
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The school up to about the age of 11. Perfect. Okay. So in primary school, we all learned that everyone and everything is energy. Right. We're all these protons, neutrons, electrons vibrating in an electromagnetic field.
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Our body has electricity that runs through it. It is mostly made of water. Right. We are operating in an electromagnetic field. Like the only way people can hear us right now is a transfer of energy frequency.
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It's the same thing as when you know people are streaming movies. It just comes out of thin air, right? That's 5G. That's a transfer of information and energy through frequency. And even Einstein said, the future of medicine is frequency and vibration.
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And that's because we are all comprised of energy. And where we put our attention, right, is where our energy goes. I look at our physical body as really our subconscious mind.
The Role of Emotions and Energy in Health
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And the surprising fact that 5% of our mind is conscious, that is where we do all of our strategizing, thinking, calculating, you know, planning.
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When 95% of what's going on in our mind is in the subconscious. And what does the subconscious mind respond to? Feelings, energy, That's where we hold all our trauma. That's where all of everything is stored. And so um you may recall back um back in the day, there was a book called The Secret. There was also a movie called The Secret. And it talked about positive affirmation.
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And while that's a great start, that is like the electric charge in the electromagnetic field, okay? The idea, the intention, the masculine spark. But what collapses the particle wave, what brings things into you, magnifies things to you, energy.
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emotion, energy in motion. And where the trouble starts is when energy is no longer um in motion, it pools in the physical body and starts to cause dis-ease, dysfunction, or a dissonance in your frequency. And that's typically when you notice something's physically wrong, you go to the doctor.
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Now, it could be slightly different. Perhaps um You and I were having a sidebar conversation earlier. Perhaps you wake up one morning and you have a pain on the left side of your neck.
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Well, necks represent flexibility. So you're being a little inflexible or someone's being inflexible with you. On the left side of your body is typically female.
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So if you have a pain in your neck on the left side, Michael, it could be a girlfriend giving you a hard time. It may not be that you slept funny. Okay. I, there is, there's origins in everything that people say. And, you know, people do say you are a pain in the neck, not to me, obviously.
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Well, which side, which side you need to know the side. Well, it's, it's, if it's on the left hand side, then we could get into whole different deb debate. the If it's all the way around, you've got a real problem, I suppose.
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I totally get what you're meaning is that the, our body gives us signals as to what is actually the the problem. Absolutely. But not everybody is um aware enough to interpret what that is. And that's where my method comes in. So I literally have a book of charts, all right, about 30 different charts. And I use a pendulum. And I, you know,
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set up what I would call a sacred space because once energy is created, it can't be destroyed, right? That is a scientific fact. It has to be transmuted. It has to go somewhere else. And that's what I was saying. When it pools in the body, that's when it causes dysfunction, discomfort, dis-ease, right? Dissonance in our frequency and we have to address it, right? We can't ignore it anymore.
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um My method allows me to figure out where it is in the body, what it is, What caused it? When did it happen? um And even though like people go through traumatic events in their life and maybe they've done counseling where they talk it out and they cry it out and they get back into that situation and they have to move the energy up and out of the body by reliving that situation. That is one way to release trauma.
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Another way could be actually exercising. I'm also an avid tennis player, hence living in Florida, right? That is a great release and that helps to move energy. There's lots of ways to move energy, but when something is stuck in the subconscious mind for a long period of time, it often forms those cells and causes something majorly wrong. yes The genes have been downregulated and you now have dis-ease that you need to attend to.
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And so there's always an underlying emotional root cause to whatever is going wrong in the body. Like I said, it could be something as simple as a pain in the neck to something that might be a cause for cancer cells forming in the body.
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One of the things that you said was that emotion is like energy in motion. When the energy doesn't move, it stops having motion. Yes. That's when it starts to pool. The longer that it is static, the longer that it's in that pool, the more serious the damage that it would do physically to your body. Absolutely.
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and if If we are to maintain good physical health, the first part of maintaining good physical health is to be also managing our emotional and mental health as well.
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Otherwise we could end up, so yeah, I'm really fit. I can do umpteen pull-ups and press-ups and whatever it is you want, run marathons every day. But if you you could still have that energy, that static energy, which is going to cause problems. Absolutely. You know, i mean, it's also talking about our thoughts, what we think, you know, something else that's stored in the subconscious mind are repetitive thoughts, which have become self-limiting beliefs. And it clouds your vision of who you are in the world. For example, maybe if you grew up with the self-belief, you're not enough.
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I grew up with an alcoholic parent. And so in order to get attention, I always had to do something spectacular. it had to be I had to be the best on the team. I had to you know have the best grades. I always had to exceed expectations in order to get praise. That's a way to become more important, more impressive than the drug and the alcohol. Yes. I certainly had it served me in my corporate career, always meeting and exceeding expectations. But it really failed me in my personal life because I wound up choosing partners that would underdo and I would overdo.
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And so I felt unsupported. it took me a long time to heal that one. Yes. Have you learned to relax now? Oh my goodness. Yes. I am ah i am an avid meditator. i have ah really taken recently my meditation to a whole new level.
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Yeah, it's ah glorious to where you actually get back your love of life and start operating as your future self instead of your past self all the time. And so my method really helps people get clear enough so that they can get into those higher states of consciousness and start getting that joy of life back. I mean, so many people battle with depression and anxiety and our nervous systems are just constantly in fight or flight. You know, the second people pick up their their cell phone or they pay attention to the news or, you know, you think about how many times a day you go into fight or flight. If people can't calm their nervous systems down, it affects their immune system. Their ability to fight any dis-ease off lowers their resistance and then they tend to get sick more often.
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Propensity to be sick more often also leads to more serious illnesses, I suppose. What you're saying is that our natural state is it's not a natural state, that fight constant fight or flight.
Impact of Lifestyle on Health
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But because we are evolving, changing to being in a constant fight or flight because of the pressures of life in the Western world, we are just by our choice of job or our choice of the way in which we do our job is going to contribute towards creating a negative impact on our health.
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Yeah, it definitely can. Like when you you look at all of the factors that contribute to dis-ease within the body. It usually falls into just a few categories. The good news is most of them are within our control and most of them are lifestyle-based. So the first one is poor nutrition. So if you think of your body as a computer, you have to think about what am I putting into it? so you know, garbage in, garbage out. So, you know, trying to eat, you know, healthy foods and having more of a ah balanced diet that works for you. The next one
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ah toxicity. So managing toxicity, that's not just the chemicals in your home or what you choose to clean with. It's looking at your environment. It's looking at the people in your life. Like, you know, when you look at your cell phone and that one person calls you and you just cringe, like, oh, I don't know that I have the energy to pick up the phone and speak to them right now. The energy vampires in your life.
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Toxicity is also what you listen to or what you watch, what you read. You know, what are you feeding your subconscious mind? So toxicity shows up in lots of ways. So it's almost like if we are listening to celebrities, politicians, campaigners telling us what is wrong with the world and they're the only person who's going to put it right. Yes, definitely contributes. This thing to that bad news all the time is going to contribute towards creating negative the negative aspects of our subconscious and or our subconscious mind and will contribute towards the pooling of that emotion and stopping it from moving around the body. Yeah, and and keeping you know the nervous system in high alert.
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Then the next big one is stress. Stress is a a huge factor in our health, our physical health, and how we manage that stress, whether we move or not. Movement is big. Sitting has become the new smoking. um So, you know, as much as you can incorporate movement. And the last thing that typically contributes is the genetic component, but it's only about 5%, 3% 5%.
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three to five per cent that affects people in genetics. Something comes through your family line. You've inherited a condition. Yeah, you've inherited your genetics from your parents and your grandparents and etc. But it's not just the genetics that you inherit, is it? It's the habits that they have. I'm thinking like Thanksgiving dinners in in America or Christmas dinners here in in the UK.
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You will do what your parents and grandparents did and you'll organize food in ah in a particular way because that's the way that it's done. Well, that's just the way that it's done.
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It's all sorts of habits. If your parents were smokers, you're more likely to be a smoker. If your parents worked in an office, you're more likely to work in an office. If your parents played sport, you're more likely to play sport. But if they were spectators, you're more likely to be a spectator.
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If you read books or if your parents read books, you're more likely to read books. There's all sorts of different evidence that supports that habits get transferred from generation to generation just because that is what is accepted in that environment, what is seen as important in that environment. Yes, very much so. Yeah. The good news is most of it is within our control and we can change it Yes.
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it Yeah. Within our control, we can change it. That does lead me very nicely onto the question then of like, okay, so
Application and Benefits of Soul Intelligence
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what's your advice? You get, you somebody goes through the method. Mm-hmm. the soul intelligence method, they get all sorts of information about where they're at with all sorts of different things. And then they look at it and their stress levels increase, obviously.
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But how does somebody use the outcome of the soul intelligence assessment to actually then improve life? What do they do?
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Well, the cool thing is um when someone does a soul intelligence session with me, all they have to do is to show up to a Zoom. That's it. Talk about compliance. um You show up and you receive.
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I typically record the session so that if you do want to go back and listen to it later, you can, but that way you can be fully present. I typically ask whatever needs to move or shift for someone that it comes up.
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I work in the field of functional medicine, which treats people holistically. it looks at the whole person, not just ah a specific body system or part. A lot of my clients are medical doctors, nurse practitioners, healthcare care professionals in some form or fashion. That tends to be who my primary clients are and then consequently their patients. So I remember i was working with this one doctor.
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She said to me, look, I have had this incredibly painful foot pain for months and I can't seem to get rid of it. No matter what I do, what I try, I'm really desperate. And, um, you know, I would love to do a session and I said, okay, let's do it. So we, you know, sat down and, you know, just did the zoom. We did the session.
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I asked her during the session, I go, what what is going on? What are all of these men that are not supporting me? What is, what is that that's going on? Like it, I go, it's like a group of men and a separate man. And she goes, oh I have been in a lawsuit with a construction company. This, this, these group, this didn't do, you know, this construction group didn't do what they said they were going to do. They fell through on the contract. I had to get an attorney, the attorney, my attorney isn't returning my calls and I didn't get the work done properly. I've got other challenges going on. And so she went on and on and on. And I went, aha, okay, that explains it. I go, so you can't take a step forward, hence your foot pain. So I wound up clearing all the energy that had basically pooled in the foot in that part of her body.
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She also had... like a sinus infection that wasn't going away. And I said, well, that means you're irritated with one person. It's probably your attorney who won't return your calls. So we cleared that up too. She literally the next morning texted me, you have no idea how impactful that was. She goes, I literally was crawling to the restroom from my bedroom. Like I couldn't put any weight on my foot. And this is a medical doctor.
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She goes, i was able to walk. Without a problem and no pain. I said, great. Did you also put your foot up your attorney's backside? Yeah. And so it was like, you know, she wasn't dealing with this situation. She wasn't able to move something forward. Right. And so that's why those physical conditions developed. So even someone as knowledgeable, right, as an MD wasn't able to solve their own challenges.
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But it's it's the understanding of the various different factors and then the processes to make use of that knowledge. isn't it Absolutely. And so everybody can get in touch with their own soul intelligence. You know, talk to people about, okay, we all can understand the concept of IQ, right? Our smarts, the brain, the idea, the inspiration. That's the magnetic spark in the in the electromagnetic field, the idea, the inspiration. But what magnifies things to you and bring things to you is emotions. So the emotional intelligence. And I think we all learned about that, um you know, kind of in the 80s and 90s. Like how you say what you say is more important sometimes than what you're saying.
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Yes, but when we learned about it in the eighty s and and especially in the 90s, think it was Daniel Gorman who wrote the book, it was an outward facing emotional intelligence.
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It was about how we impact other people. it was not about our inward facing emotional intelligence. And what you're talking about is building an understanding of our emotional intelligence. Absolutely.
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And then soul intelligence is your inner knowing, okay? And trusting your inner knowing um beyond intuition. It's literally feeling into a situation to gain direction. so we're talking about values then? um Not necessarily values. It's whether something resonates with you, whether it aligns with you. whether you feel like you can step into that situation. For example, I use a technique when I was you know doing executive coaching.
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I call it inside out problem solving. yeah So basically, you could have three different outcomes to a problem and you kind of you know stand in one spot in the room and you close your eyes, and you feel into that solution that you've come up with. And what does that look like six months from now? And who are you with? And how do you feel? And what impact has that had? And how does that transpire?
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Go with your gut reaction is what you mean. And then you take a step in a different direction and you feel into, well what if I do nothing? What does that feel like? And how does that unwind in six months? And where where am I then? and then maybe you take a step in the other direction and you feel into an even better solution and you feel within your body, what is the right outcome for you at this time?
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So it's it's literally tapping into your soul intelligence, tapping into your inner knowing, in order to solve a problem. Yes.
00:24:25
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Yeah. We have just scratched the surface of this, haven't we? I know. I'm like, ah where did the time go already? It's really, seriously, just scratched the surface.
Upcoming Projects and Conclusion
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I'm going to have to invite you back.
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Oh, I'd love that. That would be brilliant. But for today, Christine, I have to say thank you very much. It's been really very interesting. And I'm sure other people will have say it's been very interesting as well. so where can people find more information out about you? Probably the best place would be my website, which is soul, as in S-O-U-L.
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soulintelligencemethod.com. um I also have my book Healing Through Soul Intelligence available on Amazon and Audible. And I'm going to be in a movie ah called The Pillars of Power that comes out in the early part of 2026. And it is actually and it it really a great compilation. i mentioned The Secret earlier. It's like a 20-year anniversary of The Secret. So there are Some of the pioneers of transformation that were in the original movie, like Dr. Joe Vitale and Marie Diamond, Ken Honda and others, along with today's transformational specialists like myself.
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Pretty exciting times around here. Great stuff. Yeah, we will put links to everything in the description. But today, Christine, thank you very much. I've really enjoyed the conversation and you've given me an awful lot to think about. Thank you.
00:25:51
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Oh, absolutely. it was my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. It's been great fun. I am Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abbasida, and in this episode of Fit for My Age, I have been having a conversation with Christine Genovese.
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