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Ole Miss Review | 2024 Georgia Football
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Jim and John review Georgia’s 28-10 loss to Ole Miss.
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Introduction and Hosts
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This is now a pro playoff.
00:00:08
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Welcome to my gotta podcast. I'm Jim Wood.
Georgia vs. Ole Miss: Game Highlights
00:00:11
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In this episode, John Powell and I review Georgia's 28 to 10 loss to the Ole Miss Rebels. We talk about our experiences on Saturday and what stood out to us during the game.
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Game Predictions and Outcomes
00:00:42
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Well, that one definitely wasn't as we predicted.
00:00:46
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It was not, it was not, I mean, kind of shocking actually. Yeah. And like many, on many fronts. Full disclosure. I actually thought we were going to win by more than I said on the podcast. Um, I got stitches and like, as John Michael D says, and I, I basically like gave the score that I gave last year. Cause I was like, well, that worked last year really well. And we blew them out. Cause I thought we were going to win by a lot. Um, you thought we were going to win. I thought we were going to lose. You thought we were going to lose this game.
00:01:15
Speaker
Yeah, like going in. Yeah. I thought we were going to lose the game. Yeah. Well, you didn't say that is possible. You're just keeping that in inside to yourself. No. i Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I told everybody, I knew I thought we were going to lose this game. We didn't say on the podcast.
Atlanta United: Playoff Importance
00:01:31
Speaker
We're we're talking about Atlantic United, right? Oh my gosh. I don't know. That was the only game that happened this past weekend. I don't know. I don't know. I blacked out on Saturday. I don't know. Well played.
00:01:43
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way but That was amazing. i figured'd we'd lead I figured we'd lead off with some positivity, Jim, because ah frankly, I don't want to talk about it, as a wise man once said.
00:01:56
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i i text I was texting with Matt Moore. ah I texted Matt a Saturday night after the game. is That was pretty sweet. the at atlantic After the Atlanta United game. Yeah, that was fun. That's awesome. Dude, shout out to Rob Valentino, an interim head coach for Atlanta United. I think I mentioned this, but he he's he goes to my church and our kids are buddies.
00:02:19
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um but Yeah. Um, dude, he and I talked about that at Halloween. They came trick or treat, you know, neighborhood, you know, talking about it at Halloween. I said, send that Argentinian packing and sure enough he did. Yeah. Yeah. That was sweet. That was sweet. I'm wearing the hat. I'm wearing the Atlanta United hat for my boys because, uh, they're making a run in the playoffs
Excitement for Upcoming Games
00:02:44
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right now.
00:02:44
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Yeah, which goes to show, um, I've seen a lot of people, I've seen a lot of like, Oh, well, like why, like, why do we even want to see this team in the playoff and like things like that being Georgia football. And to that, I say, just get in and you never know. And look at, look at Atlanta United as, you know, I mean, that's perfect evidence right there of you never know what's going to happen. All you gotta do is get into that playoff and then go from there. So.
00:03:14
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Yeah, dude, seriously, like if there ever was a team that that the entire world just assumed was going to win, it was definitely Lionel Messi's team in Inter Miami. Yeah, it's a it was it's definitely ah a perfect ah perfect scenario there for, i didn't I didn't mean to start off with a nice s segue into playoff talk. But yeah, it just just naturally happens. and is that happened naturally happened that and This is now this is now a pro playoff.
00:03:49
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ah
00:03:53
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Oh man, ah Josh is like so happy. By the way, Josh texted me on on Sunday when like our our group chat was kind of going off the rails a bit and Josh takes takes it texted me directly and was just like, hey, he's like, you know, next weekend's going to be awesome, right?
00:04:10
Speaker
he I was like, yes, Josh, it's going to be amazing. Uh, it was pretty funny. I'm going to have major FOMO. I feel like everybody in their brother is just like with the Tennessee game that when they were ranked number one, it's just like that game. Like yeah the the whole world is going to be there. Yeah. And my wife has Santa pictures. Awesome. Go sna um
Georgia's Game Strategy Analysis
00:04:33
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Santa. Santa.
00:04:34
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So what I will say is I do think we, I think old, generally our defense kind of held Ole Miss. So I think roughly what we thought they would, um, points wise. Um, cause I had Ole Miss with 26 points or 24, you had 26, a hundred had 32. Um, but they put up 28 points. It was the whole Georgia only scoring 10. I did not have that on my bingo card. I never, like I knew they had a good defense.
00:04:59
Speaker
I never would have thought it would have been that low of a point total, especially with the way the game started. I mean, the way the game started like. You couldn't have asked for a better... It couldn't have been anything better. It could not have been anything. the The defense came out on the field with their hair on fire, which is what we talked about, like kind of wanting to see getting after the quarterback, like we saw against Texas. They did that. I mean, it was like sack, sack pick, basically. we're like and Maybe that's overexaggering a little bit, but... um I mean, it was definitely pressure, pressure, pressure.
00:05:29
Speaker
Yeah. So, you know, and then short field ran the ball. We wanted to z as run the ball and basically ran the ball every play, um, to get a touchdown. Um, although I guess like the one thing that like, like needing to go to fourth and goal to score that touchdown with as close as we were there, like I was kind of like, what was going on? Like, can we not punch it in? And we did punch it in, but I don't know. Maybe that was early, early warning sign there, but.
00:05:54
Speaker
Yeah, an early warning sign that Kirby needed new knew that we were going to need points. man Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, man. and Thinking about that thinking about that series is ah is frustrating because you're like, literally, everything that you want to happen turnover, short field points, like, these are the things These are a few of Kirby Smart's favorite things. I don't understand where it went from there though. That's the part that is just utterly mind boggling on both sides of the ball.
00:06:32
Speaker
The part that's hard to say is what went wrong was freshmen left-handed quarterback came in off the bench. I mean, I guess, but then he sat down on them back on the bench. He did, but like that was, I mean, to me, like that was a big, huge turning point. You you know, the defense absolutely shuts them down, gets a pick, short field, took Dart out of the game momentarily. Um, you know, thankfully he was able to come back, but never want to see anybody get hurt. but yeah know Then you get ah get a true freshman in there, a quarterback, and he just marches down the field 75 yards. like it was like It was nothing. um That was frustrating. like I don't know what changed. like We didn't have a plan for him or whatever. it didn't Maybe they had just adjusted. I don't know. I'm not at a certified ball knower and I haven't like watched any film breakdowns of this yet. um so I don't know if they changed something, if we changed something.
00:07:22
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Did something there was a felt like there was a drop off and then. Like an intensity or something, but maybe that wasn't it. I don't know. Um, I mean, you said the hair, the hair was on fire. Did the, did the rain extinguish it? Could have been, but, but then, then it was like, everything went wrong, right? So then it's like.
Georgia's Offensive Challenges
00:07:41
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Freshman quarterback comes in. So you're like, Oh yeah, back up. Like, let's go. would We don't even have to face Dart. Then he marched down the field score. Then they kick off and the kicker falls down, but it still ends up being a great play for them because it's a weird squid kick and we don't handle it. Well, we're backed up. And then it was just like, nothing went our way really after that point. Um, except for some flukey things, but yeah, it it reminded me and I, we talked, we were texting about this with Hunter, like, Hey, John, um,
00:08:10
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It kind of reminded me of the 2017 Auburn game. You know, later in the season, road game, favorite on the road, go in there, find early success, and then it just turns on you in snowballs and you can never get back in the game. um So it felt a lot like that game to me. Yeah, yeah, I definitely, I definitely was worried after the first two offensive series pretty, pretty heavily.
00:08:37
Speaker
um Yeah, I think that from a, you know, if you're going human, you're like, what the heck do I have to do, like, we force them to feel goals on all these different drives. Yeah, force them to punt, turn them all over, like,
00:08:54
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they They were having a tough time. We held that we held them to under their you know under everything on the from the defensive side of things. So I think that the defense did enough in this game. And the really, really painful part of this game is that all of the chickens from an offensive standpoint came home to roost.
00:09:15
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in a big, big way, in a way that um I guess you you you're you're quick to remind us that you're never as bad as you think you are after after a loss or whatever. yeah um I don't know. i've I thought that we were pretty awful.
00:09:30
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but but Yeah, well that's the yeah the the flip side of that coin is you're never as good as you think you are after a win either right and I think I think we had been winning and Despite some deficiencies and so you want to kind of excuse it or whatever or think you can clean it up And yeah, I mean it all it all happened on Saturday Yeah, it all happened um the they They did not clean it up, Jim. no um And they haven't cleaned it up all season. That's the part that's frustrating is that, I don't know. Couldn't run the ball could run the ball consistently. Couldn't run the ball. 72% of Beck's passes were behind the line of scrimmage. His
00:10:15
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adjusted depth of target was, was it like four yards or something like that? um I mean, it was anemic, anemic. And I mentioned this on the last, you know, on the Florida review, the more, the more that teams play this, this offense,
00:10:34
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the more they're figuring it out and the more I feel like that we have to do something different. I guess then I pose this question, you know, to our, you know, internally on our chats or whatever, but like, at what point does Curvy Smart get so desperate than to do what Saban did to him in a big game, you know, must win game. You know, we've got one of those coming up here. Winner go home, like at some point you've got to throw the backup in or do something, you know, different. I don't know, man, the part that's the part that's frustrating to me is that we had an entire coaching staff watch Carson Beck get picked up off the ground. Was it eight times or five times or something like that?
00:11:19
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um constantly get hit, constantly in the backfield, constantly tackling for losses. um Plays were getting blown up left and right. We had offensive linemen and picking themselves up off the ground, which is never a good thing.
00:11:36
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um We had offensive linemen not engaging in blocks. We had offensive linemen that were literally watching the defensive line tackle their quarterback, not even getting a hand on him. These are things that are really, really, really concerning from a, what the heck are we doing? Like with the talent that's on this roster, we've got three, four star,
00:12:02
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players and not a one of them looks like that they're getting better, developing, or um playing at
Reflections and Future Strategies
00:12:11
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the level that they need to this late in the season. I get it. Everybody's hurt. I get it. We've, we've got rotations, but like, dude, we just watched Georgia Tech just took down an undefeated Miami team and they don't have nearly the talent that they do. You know what I mean? Like, yeah.
00:12:27
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So what like that's what it's that's like a ah famous like project management term like all this all this stuff happened so what like you just figure it out right. Yeah. Yeah. And what's frustrating was like I'm going to go back to what you were saying was like that.
00:12:42
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the percentage of passes thrown behind the line of scrimmage and Beck's depth of the target. It was like, for one thing, we've been doing that like all year. And I, you know, like we talked about that coming into the season, like when are we going to get vertical with Dominic Lovett? Like last year we just threw screens to love it left and right. Like he's a good, like he can get downfield. He did that at Missouri. When will we see that here?
00:13:01
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Um, and now it's just like, it's like, it's expanded to like everyone and it's like either. Wide receiver screens, like the jailbreak screen or the tunnel screen or whatever. And it's like all we're doing and I could, you know, you could say like, well, it was raining really hard. So they needed to adjust the game plan for the rain. Well, almost didn't like they were, they were throwing the ball down the field. They had no problem with it whatsoever. And they had guys running wide open behind our, you know, between the linebackers and the safeties basically. Um, and we.
00:13:31
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We're unable to figure that out. Or when we did, it was like no, no yak, right? No yards of the catch. um I think like the deep ball to the wheel route to Cash Jones is a perfect example of that, where I'm not sure. Like I haven't rewatched it. I know you and I were texting like it felt like like why wasn't that a touchdown? Like as open he's as he was. Maybe Beck had to fit it into a window from a safety coming over or something. I'm i'm not sure. Like maybe he actually threw it in the right spot, but it felt like that threw it on his he threw it in a safe spot.
00:14:01
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Yeah, that's what he did. He threw it to a safe spot. right like It's almost like it's a microcosm of all the things that we've been frustrated about with Carson Beck all season long. right He played not to lose, which is good because When he's gone for that pass in the past, it's got represented it hasn't worked out or it's been intercepted. I mean, frankly, like yeah he's overshot 90% of those throws. I'm sure that he saw when he sees Cass Jones dancing, and dancing by himself in the secondary, like he's probably thinking to himself, you know, with all the pressure and all that kind of stuff that, you know, he talked about, you know, he, he said he was going to take it one play at a time or whatever, but like,
00:14:46
Speaker
know I think that we'd all be ah dumb to not realize that he, I mean, shoot, his his girlfriend is making TikToks about being the worst curse in college football. Like they clearly know and are talking about like how he's been playing. So yeah it has to be something that he's that he's thinking about to a certain extent, even in the game, to not mess up. Like don't don't F this up. Even if it means throwing it short,
00:15:13
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and completing the past and taking what the you know defense gives you yeah and living to fight another down, which that's what they said that they wanted him to do. So this game, in my opinion, does not fall at the feet of Carson Beck. I think that there are maybe a handful of things here and there, the Cash Jones throw, you know a couple of throws here and there that I feel like that maybe you know you could probably criticize him a little bit on. but like He did exactly what the coaching staff said that they wanted him to do, which was to, you know, not force it, take sacks if you need to. It's okay. Like just like next next play, next play, next play, next play. Yeah. And yeah, up until, up until the interception, you know, and even the phone, even the fumble wasn't his fault. That's freaking offensive line. Like he's a kid. The kid is literally getting blasted every single, every single time he he takes a snap.
00:16:09
Speaker
Yeah, um yeah, and I definitely don't put the pig on him either. Like I know we talked about texting like the offensive line didn't and engage with that defensive lineman whatsoever. Just let him stand there and then he jumped and batted it down. Like you've got to go up to that guy, I think. I don't understand that. Like I thought that like this is this goes to the I'm I'm not like Stacy's not invited at Thanksgiving. I don't know what's going on. Yeah.
00:16:35
Speaker
whatever's happening, and I mentioned this before the, you know, I mentioned this early in the game, it was the first at first I was getting on to the wide receivers, and then I started getting on to the offensive line because we couldn't be Carson didn't have any time whatsoever to to do anything, and our running backs were getting tackled.
00:16:53
Speaker
three yards behind the line of scrimmage because literally everybody got beat um along the line of scrimmage this this conference is a line of scrimmage conference the game is a line of scrimmage game if you don't win the line of scrimmage you're going to lose the game more often than not and we lost the line of scrimmage in every way, shape, and form. Mike L. Williams,
00:17:16
Speaker
um you know Jamon Walker, those names were names that nobody really talked about in the game. At one point, I was like, oh yeah, I forgot that they were playing. They're not hurt. They're not hurt. Right. And that was the thing. It was like on that first drive, everyone was so disruptive. I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm not paid $6 million a year or whatever it is that we were you know, wherever is it we're paying Kirby? I'm not getting paid millions of dollars a year to figure this out, but there is a person that is, and his name is Kirby Smart and he lives in Athens, Georgia, um and he needs to figure it out. um yeah At the end of the day, all of all of our problems, all of our lows, even on the offensive side of the ball, which I know is not something that Kirby is not necessarily known for, but I don't know if he's
00:18:06
Speaker
I don't know if he's mandating different things that maybe our offensive staff doesn't want to do or doesn't feel comfortable doing. And we're just not doing a very good job of doing what Kirby wants to do, but I have a hard time believing that. um yeah But it's just it's just these these things just keep happening over and over again. And it's just, this is the team that we are. We're a team that's going to struggle on the offensive line. We're a team that's going to struggle with the wide receiver position, which to start the game,
00:18:33
Speaker
Like we started the game the first, like for two third downs in a row, we dropped the ball on third down. One of them was a completed pass that should have been a first down. Um, yeah. The, you know, the drop, the drop pass, um, that I think was a Dylan Bell. I think, I think he dropped it. He was a love it. Bill dropped one that was, he was short of the sticks anyway. He was short of the stick anyway. Yeah. Like nothing, nothing we probably could have done there, but I don't know. they che Maybe, maybe he catches it and maybe there's a ah penalty or maybe there's a, well, yeah, we, we got a wild hair that Kirby gets and.
00:19:10
Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean, we were getting crazy penalties too, like, you know, not enough men on the line of scrimmage, like illegal formation. It was like, we couldn't, anytime we even, we would like do good things, um, it'd get walked back for a penalty. Um, I, I want to go back to the back thing really quick because I feel like there's kind of two things there. One, I do feel like he did what they asked him to do. I was actually, I was happy that he was like, we actually saw him throw the ball away. Like, and I was like, yes, like,
00:19:35
Speaker
That's what we've been trying to get you to do. Um, and even taking the sacks, like just don't make, you know, don't turn a bad play into a disaster. And I felt like for the most part, he did a good job of that. Um, the only thing that I was concerned about was early in the game, it felt like they also just weren't asking a lot of him.
00:19:52
Speaker
And so I don't know if that was like the scary thing is, could that be a trust thing? Although hearing Kirby talk, I'd, I'd like to think that it's not that. And then that leads me back to the weather, which again, I feel like it didn't bother them or them being on this. So I don't know. I don't know what to make of that. Um, also like the whole, like, you know, ETN, I mean, his ribs are clearly bothering him. Um, you know, we're like feeding in the ball early.
00:20:16
Speaker
He was doing great. And then I think early in that second drive, he took himself out and you could see on TV, the conversation between he and Kirby and if he's like pointing to his rips, um, they bothered him and, you know, Nate Frazier, talented freshmen scored our only offensive touchdown in the game. Um, but I think we also saw some signs of why he hasn't gotten the playing time that we kept asking, why isn't he getting it? Um, he's putting the ball on the ground. So, um, gotta gotta clean that up. You know,
00:20:46
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I guess that, you know, yeah, you got to clean that up, but like at the same time, like you got to try something different, like, okay. So yeah if that's not working, then like we have other guys that can play that role. I mean, Dylan Bell had a really good run out of the running back position. He's played that position in the past. We've got other running back. Like we've got natural toggle. We've got, um, laser receiver, I think, but.
00:21:13
Speaker
but yeah But we do, we we do get, we got, we got Dwight, we get peanuts. We get peanuts. We got Chauncey Bowens is the other, he's the other freshmen. And that was a name that came up in the pregame that Graham was talking about to not be surprised to see Chauncey Bowens toe in the rock. Yeah. Um, like, yeah.
00:21:34
Speaker
I don't, I don't know. I don't know, man.
Quarterback and Team Evaluation
00:21:36
Speaker
Like, I guess that like, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're not, if you're not worried enough to try a different quarterback, that's clearly not going to happen. I mean, that's, that's clearly like, it's clearly not going to happen. of Did you see Kirby's interview today? Have you seen that quote? Because Chip Towers asked him today.
00:21:55
Speaker
Okay. easy What did he say? Chip Towers asked Kirby if he had basically like basically like it it went over about as well as a visor and actually probably went a little bit better than the visor question last week. Um, but he basically was like, you know, have you thought about it in game making a change? And he said, absolutely. He said, absolutely not. Uh, we've got a quarterback that is completely is perfectly competent and capable and gives us the best chance to win. And there may have been some other stuff and I paraphrase, but that's generally what he said.
00:22:25
Speaker
and So I don't see it happening. I don't know, man. ah If that's the case, then, you know, that's fine. Okay, so so great. So you got your quarterback, right? Yeah. um and What? how How do we feel about the wide receiver position? as I was gonna say that. Yeah, that's nothing. Maybe apply that there, right? Like if you're not going to catch the ball, let's people are dropping passes. Yeah, people are dropping passes. You subbed out. You subbed out Frazier when he fumbled the ball. Like, yeah.
00:22:53
Speaker
You clearly are okay changing some personnel here and there. I mean, when Xavier Truss is getting burned, you move him out and move someone else in. Drew Bobo at one point came in and played guard.
00:23:06
Speaker
um i mean Yeah. I don't know, man. like ah just i would I would be looking for a spark. ah if If I'm if i'm in ah in a situation where we're losing by multiple scores late in the third quarter, you need a spark. like Try something different. Try something different.
00:23:27
Speaker
Yeah. What's frustrating is like, let's see. Uh, so in the third quarter, I mean, we get the ball to start second half when we go 70 yards in nine plays and nine minute and 44 second drive. Is that right? No, no, no, sorry. That's not the time. I'm sorry. Five minute and 16 second drive. Um, but we don't get a fuel bowl. Like, you know, this is like, that was the one with the the past or was it maybe not? That was earlier.
00:23:54
Speaker
Um, yeah, that had to have been the drive where we had the long pass to, to cash Jones. Um, cause that was our only other scoring drive. Um, and we just get a feel about a lot of it. Um, yeah, you get, you get all the way down there. And the only thing you have to show for it is the field goal. When it took, so it was so painful to get to that point. Like you score a touchdown there. It's a different, it's a different face of the game from an optics standpoint. Maybe they're, maybe they're making different decisions, whatever. Like.
00:24:23
Speaker
Man, from there we fumbled the ball. same and we Literally fumbled the game away after that. like yeah now our Our second half ah drive ending plays went field goal, fumble, interception, fumble, turnover on downs. That was our second half on offense.
00:24:41
Speaker
that's well um There's one other, there is one other moment, um, like, you know, we, something we've talked about as like the whole like complimentary football thing. Um, and this kind of gets my back to, I, again, we've been texting, texting about this a lot. Like I think the defense played well enough to win, but I don't want to give them a complete pass and, you know, say he was like perfect or anything.
00:25:02
Speaker
There was there was another moment that I felt really could have changed the game. So again, you know, offense um kind of sputtered out and had to punt. And Brett Thorsen makes a huge play and pins them at the one yard line. And at that point, it was, I think, 13 to seven. Right. and So they're the one yard line, if you you know,
00:25:25
Speaker
In theory, you're thinking, Hey, we can probably get some pretty good field position and take the lead if we get the ball back. Um, so got unpinned at the one yard line and we gave up a 10 play 63 yard drive that ended in a little miss field goal.
00:25:41
Speaker
Uh, you know, another just huge moment for the Ole Miss offense there. And I mean, you know, credit to dart. I mean, gritty, gutty game for him. And he even made plays with his legs on the injured ankle that he injured or whatever he entered in the game. Um, yeah he played, he, he played really well, especially considering that.
00:25:59
Speaker
But that that that moment that was just a key moment to me in the game where really felt like we had an opportunity to turn the game around and couldn' enough couldn't get off the field, you know, couldn't get their offense on the field. Yeah, I mean, you could have you probably could have rewound a little bit further back and gone to the end of the second half. We we had an opportunity to go after a punt and we just let let their guy just unload an absolute rocket that effectively ended any hope that we would have had to take a quick couple of plays here and there and get a sneaky field goal in before we get the ball back or whatever. Or, you know, on the other on the flip side of that, like send the house, like send the house and try to get a block, get a safety, get some points, get a touchdown, like
00:26:48
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was like, you've got to go after this, but we've got to understand that's the, that's the thing that, that's the thing that is we got, this is the first game that I feel like that I've seen our coaching staff get outcoached for four straight quarters. Yeah. And we've had, we've had a half. We've had, you know, blips and moments and in games like the Alabama game earlier this season, the the beginning of the the the beginning of that game, um we were able to turn around. right this we had We had no answer for a team that lost to Kentucky. like yeah We had no answer for a team that lost to Kentucky and freaking LSU. LSU just got trounced by Alabama at home. at home i yeah What the hell is going on that we can't figure this out? like
00:27:40
Speaker
I think what's ah yeah was there was definitely a realization to for me. I mean like this game changed a lot for me in a way. I'm thinking about going into games now because I had basically convinced, you know, we've made the the statement and I don't think it's true anymore. Like we kept saying like the only team that can be georgia's Georgia is Georgia.
00:27:59
Speaker
and <unk> so hu and almost and all miss Yeah, that's the thing. Like that wasn't true. Like I, you know, yes, we dropped passes and yes, we got out of coach and all this stuff, but I'm not going to, this is not one of those, you know, we shot ourselves in the foot. I mean, we did, but this was like, they dominated both lines of scrimmage and that's how you win games. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. To quote, to steal, to steal your quote from the last, last year, last year, man, we get there.
00:28:26
Speaker
I actually had that thought that somewhere somewhere there was an oldness too old miss. There's two old miss buddies like us that woke up i like that on Sunday. Had that conversation. Yeah. The alternate Pizarro world. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, dude. but Hey, you know,
00:28:47
Speaker
Yes, we got our butts whooped, but they did not play to their standard. you know From a metric standpoint, like we we held them in check. They're not used to kicking all those field goals. Yeah. yeah i Again, i think that the I think that if you have a couple of situations where we turn some of those possessions into points, touchdowns, it's a different game.
00:29:13
Speaker
Yeah. Turnovers on the road and line of scrimmage losses are are just going to kill you in this, in this league. It just is what it is. Like turnovers on the road and losing that battle up front. Yeah. wow i kept I just, I just kept assuming we were going to eventually figure it out. Like I'm just so used to us figuring it out. You know, like, I mean, I like at halftime, I was like, you know what? Like they should be beating us by a lot more than they are. Like I feel pretty good right now. Like that's how I felt on halftime.
00:29:41
Speaker
you don't beat You don't beat teams like Alabama and Georgia with field goals. right That's what we used to always talk about with the Nick Saban teams. like yeah We can't beat these guys just kicking field goals. yeah we've got We've got to score touchdowns. And they didn't they didn't score touchdowns.
00:29:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It was wild. That was wild. I don't mean like they lean dialed it up. He schemed it up and Kirby said it. Like he said, we got our coast and I agree. So I don't mean back to the. And confirm. Yeah. Yeah. So they're going to have to, uh, back to the, back to work. I want to say back to the drawing board. Like you got to start all over. but Um,
00:30:19
Speaker
There is a motivation factor. Ole Miss was basically playing an elimination game. Yeah. I personally think that Georgia's playing an elimination game this weekend. Yeah. oh So, you know, when your back's against the wall, like, this what did I say? A wounded tiger is most dangerous when it's cornered. um Yeah. I mean, there's a, or a wounded bulldog, I guess I should say.
00:30:44
Speaker
a wounded bulldog is yeah um yeah i would say that I would say that it would, I don't remember, did we discuss this or not on the preview? I heard someone say that Tate Rattler just didn't practice like at all.
00:31:01
Speaker
I said that because I read it somewhere. Okay. Yeah. He definitely did not look like he practiced. Yeah. I don't know if he got hurt or not, but he got pulled and then was done. I'm trying to remember a bit of a fog this weekend, but I believe he just couldn't, physically he couldn't finish.
00:31:26
Speaker
They tried to send him out here. they They felt like, you know what? He's been here forever. He knows what he's doing. Even though he didn't practice, he can go in and you cant you cannot. I mean, I had tight ropes and he had tightrope surgery. He had the same surgery. Brock and Mary's mims out last year. Like he's, that sounds like he's just not ready to be playing yet. So I don't know. Try to get Florida. Yeah. Because someone else got pulled for injury. Like that wasn't like a great plan. He was, he was like, ah he was there in case of emergency break glass and they needed him.
00:31:55
Speaker
yeah right right freak about that yeah I mean, if I have to, if you, if you were to boil it down to like one thing, like for me, it's the offensive line, because if, if the offensive line can keep that clean, better things are going to happen.
00:32:16
Speaker
I have to trust that better things are going to happen because we've seen it happen. Yeah, I know that he's capable of it. I know that they are as a unit. They are capable of it. The offensive line is not playing up to a standard, and that is something that is difficult to swallow. um I wish that I could say that it wasn't somewhat expected, but I'm not really sure that I have the confidence in that particular position group.
00:32:44
Speaker
in that particular you know position meeting, I don't know, man, I feel like something's got to change at the end of the season in that in that room. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's just like kind of like reality setting in of all the turnover we had. And, you know, I'm actually like, to be honest, like the defense with who what they lost i'm kind of impressed honestly with what they're doing like to lose kamari lasseter tike smith devon bullard um is like a lot in the secondary and i yes you know i've talked about guys kind of running free
00:33:20
Speaker
in the secondary um on Saturday and that was frustrating, but like you know there that is a that they theyre they had to replace a lot of talent. and then you know I mean, i we we lost the running back room, basically. you know Milton and Dejan Edwards are gone, Brock Bowers gone, Lev Mikaki gone, Marcus Rosemi, Jack St. gone.
00:33:39
Speaker
And it's been hard to replace those guys. um ah you Jeff Dancer talked about that. I listened to the Bulldog brunch um and he talked about that.
Season Challenges and Predictions
00:33:48
Speaker
yeah He was pretty like, he was like, you know, if you look at the skill players on this team, like who would start on like 17, 18, 21, 22. And and his his stance was no one. So he may not be wrong. So.
00:34:02
Speaker
but you're not playing against those guys and you're not playing against those teams from those seasons. Like we're playing against this season, you know, so I don't know. Yeah. I know that there's, I know that there was definitely talent in that, in these rooms, you know, the, the, the question of who, who, who was playing in that team. And again, it just goes back to like, I could, I could nitpick a lot of different things, but at the end of the day, like if If the offensive line is not getting it done, everyone else looks like, sorry Carter. but yeah If the offensive line doesn't keep Carson Beck clean, give him time to go through his progressions to make faster, to allow him to have time to make reads.
00:34:42
Speaker
allow our wide receivers to get open, et cetera. like yeah Even if you have bad receivers and you have all day to throw, like eventually they're going to get open. Even if you had bad running backs and you have a C that you and I could run through and a hole that you and I could run through, you know yeah it makes the subpar running back look a lot better.
00:35:03
Speaker
um yeah i will say there were some really good runs on saturday that should have been like three yard losses that were yeah three yard gains there actually was some pretty good tough running by the backs i will say that there's definitely some tough running for sure um but again ah it just goes back to the offensive line and i think there's been a lot of rightfully so there's been a lot of eyes on what's been going on there And it is you know somewhat fair that, you know, Charles has been there a couple of years now, like some of these are his kids and some of them are not. But and he allegedly has guys coming in that are going to be, you know, good. But it's hard not to notice that where we're not producing as nearly as much elite level talent. You're either elite or you're not on the on the line of scrimmage and we are not elite right now.
00:35:56
Speaker
um yeah the thing that is uh the thing that is you know maybe i'm being too hard on him is maybe luke left the cover there than we thought it was um maybe that you know there's It's kind of like, and know that you don't I know you don't have this, but for all my pellet smoker friends up there, like there's a bridge appellate ah a bridge appellalette bridge gap um and in the in the feeder. um Sometimes when the auger is trying to pull in pellets, there's a gap. Because something gets clogged up, something in the mechanism just it doesn't feed as much. So there's a ah brief ah brief time where there's no pellets coming into the flame.
00:36:42
Speaker
And it's not holding fire, basically. yeah Maybe we're at a ah bridge right now um because there's there's just there's just not enough talent. There's not enough talent in the room. And I believe that if you go back and look at the 2022 and 2023 recruiting classes,
00:37:01
Speaker
um There's a lot of kids that we brought in in those classes that are no longer on on campus. yeah yeah We basically lost an entire class of offensive linemen over the last several years to attrition. And I don't care how you shake a stick at it. like that is and That's impossible to overcome with nothing but time. And we could just be here sitting there watching it happen.
00:37:31
Speaker
but Yeah. Well, I think too, um, we saw, we saw on full display on Saturday, what Ole Miss, I mean, that, that team was built through the portal and one off season. And lane said in the post game, in the post game, like, you know, we losing to Georgia, I'm going to paraphrase, but like like you losing to Georgia last year was eyeopening. And we built this, we reconstructed our roster and built this team to be able to compete with Georgia. Like that's what they did. Um, that was his.
00:38:01
Speaker
That was his Jim Harbaugh moment. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, I think, are again, I know like one of the, one of the big things that Kirby does is self-scouting, self-evaluation of the program and They do a lot of that in the offseason and ah you know, I'm sure they're gonna do that that here and they're gonna have to take a look at that now what I will say is the the wild thing about it is and this was where I'm gonna go back to where where we were When we started of like getting the playoff and you never know to your point John this team Lost to LSU this team lost to Kentucky at home
00:38:38
Speaker
Um, so even with that roster that was built through the portal and with these players that were capable of doing what we saw on Saturday day to Georgia also lost those teams. This is a weird, wild, crazy college football season. It's a new sport. I keep saying that with the 12 team playoff with and n NIL with a transfer portal, it is very different. And I mean, you just never know. You never know. Like from week to week, these teams are so up and down. Um,
00:39:04
Speaker
And that is the one thing Kirby says like, we're not going to ride the wave. We're just going to focus on what's in front of us and and what's next. And um i'm goingnna and Kirby we trust. i'm goingnna I'm going to trust him to to get these guys you know ready for the rest of the season. The other thing too is we've been on an insane road trip ah or whatever.
00:39:23
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's been when it it really hit me leaving the Mississippi State game when Brooke Whitmire said, see you all, you know, Georgia fans, see you in five weeks. It's like, holy cow, five weeks. um What was the stat that Stu Mandel put out today? Georgia has played more top 10 or no more top, more ranked teams in road or neutral side games this season than have played home games period. So we've played four ranked teams either at their place or in a neutral side game, neutral side being Clemson. We've only played three home games so far. the No one did us any favors with the schedule. The schedule is nuts, but.
00:40:00
Speaker
Yeah, which is why when I hear teams like BYU and Boise State and Indiana and Colorado being discussed for the CFP or getting buys and things like that, like, yeah, but full stop. like yeah where we I guess so that's that's the thing. like I feel like the the measure of our success is sadly still the SEC. The measure of our success is being able to beat teams in the SEC that we feel like are way better than other conferences. So like we talk about, like oh yeah, we don't need to go you know need to go to the SEC championship because everybody's good.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah. Which by the way, that's it's like Matt, we're not mathematically eliminated from the SEC championship, but like crazy stuff needs to happen. So but hey yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need kit. You need like Alabama losing the Mississippi state or Auburn in, I mean, at this point, at this point, like, yeah. drink Bring it on. Yeah. Yeah. but Bring on. ah Give me, give me all the KNS. Like hindsight, looking back at everything, ah which, by the way, found ah an online calculator that calculated the tiebreakers, which because it is wild. um We basically we we we went into that game on Saturday controlling our destiny, as you say, um to make the SEC championship game and we lost control of it. But it was an illness. You know, if we had one out, we would we would have been in. um But that's not not the case now, even if we be Tennessee, we need help. Yeah.
00:41:33
Speaker
I'm not too worried about winning the SEC, but it is kind of crazy that like literally everybody has two losses and they're not like they're, they're losses like intermingled all of them. Yeah, it's all, it's all over the place. I saw someone like jokingly say like a bunch of mid teams beating each other. Like, dude, no.
00:41:54
Speaker
Give me, give me BYU, give me Colorado, give me Boise State, give me Penn State, give me, you know, give me all the, give me all of those teams that are getting all of the smoke right now, any day of the week. I think that, I think that we would win, win those games.
00:42:13
Speaker
Yeah, they agreed. Yeah. Those teams don't have Walter Nolans or the mayor of Oxford, JJ Piggies, which that ah phrase made it on the broadcast, by the way. I don't know if you caught that. Yeah. They did go on that. So shout out. Yeah. They call him the mayor. When he when he got when he got hurt. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, Oh no, the mayor of Oxford.
00:42:29
Speaker
Um, okay, before I forget, uh, it was not only a bad week on the field. It was a bad week in coaches over unders. Uh, we both had losing picks. Um, I, I did, I did less bad than you. Uh, I am at 500 on the season. So I do, uh, I have the overall lead, ah but I went three and five, you went one and seven. So not a great day on the picks.
00:42:56
Speaker
But thank you, Coach, for talking to you, Bob. Appreciate it, Coach. I always enjoy the Sunday text thread when we get the over under. 13 percent. know yeah um You know, I mean, other than that, Saturday was OK. Lily had Lily had two shows of her play on Saturday, so she was like gone of that all day.
00:43:19
Speaker
Other than that, Miss Lincoln, how was the show? Yeah, exactly. It looked like a good production. Oh, dude, it was so good. We went Friday night. It was really good. It was really good. It was hilarious. I had never seen that before. Something rotten is what she was in. Something rotten? Something rotten. What's in the brown?
00:43:41
Speaker
uh shakespeare it's about like shakespeare is a character in the play oh okay it's about like uh an aspiring playwright who wants to be good but shakespeare is like the best is like the best playwright and is like famous and everything so the character of shakespeare is actually like part of the comic relief because he's like famous and acts like he's famous and stuff is pretty interesting yeah it was good yeah i mean it's a straight up it's a musical comedy it was good Okay. Yeah, we didn't do a whole lot this weekend. A sports ah sports for free weekend for us. so Gotcha. Everybody just kind of hung out. Carter went and did some fishing. He had some basketball. He has basketball season coming up, so we had basketball practice. um But yeah, other than that, we just kind of hung out. The calm before the holiday storms, yeah as as it were. Yeah.
00:44:34
Speaker
yeah I don't know, man. um I think that everybody should just buckle up, enjoy it enjoy the home games that are on the docket here for the next, what, three weeks, right? Yeah, i man. Yeah. but yet We got three home games coming up and the playoff starts now for Georgia, I think.
00:44:55
Speaker
Yeah, I think that that's also something to, like, people saying like, Oh, you're gonna get to a 16 team playoff, or, where you know, we're gonna expand the playoffs, like, if they do, I feel like that that is going to further, like, not help anybody's argument about the regular season mattering, because even with the 12 team playoff, all the all that all that would happen in those scenarios is that the that pushes back the meaning, the meaningfulness of the regular season to be the first few weeks of the, of the season, which is kind of scary in college football. Yeah. At least now we've, we've got what nine games that we've all played basically. And so now you're just like, are you in or are you out? Like kind of situation. So if you, if you win, you're, you're in and if you don't, then you're out. like There's not a whole lot of like wiggle room. Right.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, if you if you get up to 16 teams, then you're talking like three loss teams from the SEC are getting in like no problem, I think. Right. Like this week would not be this Georgia Tennessee game coming up would not be an elimination game if in a 16 team playoff. I think they'd both get in, you know, with one more loss. So um actually, ah one thing I totally forgot to say earlier, again, when when it rains, it pours.
00:46:13
Speaker
Ole Miss returned a punt for positive yardage. For positive yardage. I saw that, yeah. It was like two yards. Come on. Killing me, killing me man. Like all the streaks, all the streaks are ending against that guy. And that's, and that's like, uh, I think if you listened to chapel bell curve, like Yara talking about the villain origin story, like I can't stand like, if a man losing to him is just the worst yeah on the plus side, like, I guess that he had a chance to run the score up, but didn't. Um.
00:46:48
Speaker
He did call a lot of timeouts toward the end of the game. He did. He did. He say that he did call some timeouts. Yeah. So, which i I think is starting to kind of, Lanning has been doing that too. I think that's kind of becoming a thing and like they call time out when you're winning and so you can huddle the team and give them motivational talks or whatever. And like, look at what you've done or something like that.
00:47:09
Speaker
Yeah. You made their team, you made their team go home or something like that. Yeah. So this wasn't at home. I don't know. Um, but Hey, look guys, like, you know, this is funny for me to say this, especially considering you once did this, but like you got to wait until the game is over before you storm the field.
00:47:26
Speaker
Um, throw back to the 2000
Home Games and Fan Support
00:47:28
Speaker
whenever you stormed the field, um, yeah, but we're going to get, we're getting $350,000 out of that. And by the way, so they got double fine. So the, the going rate is a $250,000 fine for storming the field. They actually bumped it up an extra a hundred thousand because they stormed the field twice. Um, so Ole Miss owes a $350,000 fine and that fine goes to Georgia. So.
00:47:51
Speaker
Uh-huh. I don't know what we can, I don't know what that money is allowed to be spent on or if there are any stipulations, but maybe we can upgrade our lens scrimmage with that money. Put it towards NIL. Seriously. Like, Hey, Mr. Nolan, yeah would you like a raise? Right. or I think and I'd rather have, uh, what was the, what was the, what was the kid on the outside? Um, Prince or something. Yeah. Princely. Princely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:20
Speaker
Yeah, he, he was, he was a problem. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're a good team, man. They were good. They were good. If I told you, if I told you before the game, if I told you before the game that they would kick five field goals, do you think that we would have won that game with the way the season's been going on? I would have said how many times we turned the ball over.
00:48:39
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that also wasn't very positive either. So, yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, that is, that was wild that we held down to that may kill goals. So yeah, and we only they only scored, they only scored two touchdowns. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, we only scored one touchdown.
00:48:57
Speaker
Yeah. I mean the lowest, that's the lowest point total of the Kirby smart era. It's only happened one of those time. So we scored 10 points in a loss to Florida in 2016 and Kirby's first year. That's the only other time we've only scored. We've been held to 10 points under Kirby smart. So what they did to Georgia was you can't say unprecedented, but it had only been done once before we had scored 30 points in almost every game this year, except for Kentucky. Um, so yeah, I don't know, man.
00:49:24
Speaker
i ill I will, I will say what I, what I said on Twitter Saturday night after the game was just like, you know what? Flush it. We just got to flush it and move on and let's get home to Athens. We're going to be in the friendly confines of Sanford state in between the hedges, um, for the rest of the regular regular season. So I'm ready to get back to Athens.
00:49:43
Speaker
Amen. Amen to that. um i'll be I'll be living vicariously through you yet again. um Feel free to share your your adventures.
00:49:55
Speaker
um Yeah. Well, um I got to finish off these Landsharks. I don't know if your listener or watcher has noticed. I've been ahve been drinking Landsharks this week. So I'm down to the last couple down to the last couple of these and I'm happy to move on.
00:50:14
Speaker
Nice. No more of those. No more land sharks. No, no more land sharks. i Also also on the on the pregame run, like i went for I went for a 10K thinking him that maybe the 5K wasn't enough and that we needed some extra. but Maybe I was too gassed. I don't know. Just too much. Too much. need to Need to keep it under 5k. Kim and I had like separated the week before too. Like we didn't we didn't do the entire run together. And so this week I was like we have to do the whole run together. We can't split up. That was the problem. That was not the problem. Is she leaving you in the dust? Is that what you're saying?
00:50:54
Speaker
No, she, she runs a lot more than I do. And she had like, she had like stuff to catch up on for her week or whatever last weekend. And so she like had already done a run and then was doing this run with me. And I'm like, a little ways into it. I was like, I was like, you need to just go home. Like your guest, like I can, I can see it. Like you've already, this is like your second run of the day. Like you're tired.
00:51:15
Speaker
She's like, I'm fine. Well, you know, why don't you just go home? Like I'll finish off. Um, so this week we, uh, we, we stayed together for a run. So yeah, unfortunately didn't, didn't know. Oh, well, I tried. We tried. We tried. I don't think nothing happened. The text thread, the text, the tailgate thread was, was, they were getting naked early next week. Next week you're going to have to start naked. Yeah.
00:51:43
Speaker
Yeah, just so everyone knows that the line of conversation is around the ah changing of clothes that has changing of your fit at halftime. Yes. Oh, it happens. It does. Unfortunately, we do have the situation where like the soul crushing losses are not as are not as bad. I feel like in a regular I feel like in a regular like SEC season, these like this, this would have been a soul crushing loss.
00:52:12
Speaker
Oh yeah. Last year, this happened. Like if we didn't have the 12 team playoff, like I would have been devastated on Saturday night, but I was just like, you know what? Like just, you know, that's where I said it. Nice thing. It doesn't matter. Cause it's not that we didn't lose anything. It significantly decreased the chance. We go to the SEC championship. I'd kind of put that I'm kind of, you know, something crazy could happen and Georgia gets back in the fold there, but I'm just kind of putting that out ah of my purview, but like playoff is still alive. Flush it move on.
00:52:41
Speaker
Like we can't can't do anything about what happened. All we can do is improve going forward and we just gotta do that. And like I said, man, we have the these this team has been playing away from home for a long time. Um, and we get to go back home and the rest of the season is home is at home. Um, and we'll talk about this a lot when we preview the next game, but like they need our help. Didn't they need our help? So we need to give them an environment at home for Tennessee, like Ole Miss gave them. So.
00:53:09
Speaker
Hmm. I like it. We need to show up and and show early and show out. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So we'll talk about that at length. next it Yeah. Yeah. so So make it make it make it mean more ish. Nice. Nice.
00:53:27
Speaker
All right, man. Well, um this one definitely wasn't fun. I have a feeling that ah it's going to be an under underscore of what you like to say. you never as You're never as bad as as your losses, and you're never as good as your wins. like This one definitely definitely hits home. So we'll just look to regroup. um I would hate to be the Tennessee Volunteers. I imagine Bobby.
00:53:51
Speaker
Was watching that game and had a look of just utter fear that probably was emanating throughout his body. Yep. And we're going to, we're going to have to send him home, send him home crying again. Nice. Until then. Go dogs. Go dogs.