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Sugar Bowl Review | 2024 Georgia Football

S5 E187 · My God a Podcast! A podcast for Georgia Bulldogs
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Jim and John review Georgia’s 23-10 loss to Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.

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Introduction and Sugar Bowl Recap

00:00:00
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It was not a fat John Faber special. We were not doing directional kicking. You can't say stuff like that when I'm drinking my water. I almost spit it out of my monitor.
00:00:16
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Welcome to My Gotta Podcast. I'm Jim Wood. In this episode, John Palani reviewed Georgia's 23 to 10 lost in Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl. We talk about our experiences on Saturday and what stood out to us during the game.

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Reflections on New Orleans Incident

00:00:45
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Now let's join the conversation in progress.
00:00:53
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Hmm. We're back. We're back with a sigh. ah Tough pill to swallow. Tough pill to swallow.
00:01:04
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um
00:01:07
Speaker
All the way around, all the way around. So much, you know, we're recording this kind of late. So, so much has happened, uh, on and off the field. Um, I feel like we kind of have to start just, you know, unreal set of circumstances down in, in New Orleans, um, with the attack on New Year's Eve slash New Year's day. Um, yeah, we know a bunch of people that were there. A friend of the show, Tim Riley was like right there with his family. Um, so just thankful that, you know, those that we,
00:01:36
Speaker
Knew they were down there were were safe. I know many were not as as fortunate. um So just kind of surreal as that is that unfolded and you know ultimately the game was moved. so But thoughts and prayers with the city of New Orleans and and everyone down there. Yeah, absolutely. that's ah That's probably a good place to start for sure. um Just so much so much wrapped up in those couple of days. You had yeah and the terrorist attack and then The news came out after the game that, you know, Sonny Smart, we knew that he fell. And, you know, I know that I personally like didn't realize that it was as serious as it was, but apparently they, even during the game, ki Kirby kind of had an understanding that his dad was going to be um departing departing home, so to speak.
00:02:21
Speaker
yeah um Yeah, I don't know how. i There's just, ah there's just so much wrapped up in what Kirby Smart has had to deal with in the matter of 48 hours. And frankly, what he's had to deal with, you know, just as ah just as a person in the days after um He's managing rosters. He's managing transfers. He's managing NIL deals on on people transferring in and dealing with NFL drafts. like you know i I think that there's been you know a lot of speculation about the coaching staff. So he's dealing with a lot of the noise that I'm assuming is to it. And then also, by the way, he's having to deal with his you know trying to put it put his dad's affairs in order and and you know lays lay his father to rest. so
00:03:09
Speaker
just speaks to the professionalism of of Kirby and and everyone around him and at the university. So yeah, um yeah there's just a lot going on. And then, you know, obviously the terrorist attacks, I think that the university ended up mentioning that a student actually was was among of the victims, right? You know, I haven't heard an update I know there was a student that was in like in the hospital um that was injured um And I remember a critical condition, but I never heard an update. So I don't know hopeful Hopefully that situation is approved improved, but I do not know. I have not heard an update.

Game Day Logistics Challenges

00:03:45
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Yeah, just terrible Yeah, um yeah and then we had a game and then we had a game we had to play the next day Yeah, I mean game got delayed and the vibes were the vibes were low and Yeah, it felt it definitely felt weird. It felt weird that that day all day, you know, kind of took half the day. I think, you know, I would say it was the right decision to move it. I don't think anyone's really questioning that. It was. But yeah, it was definitely it was interesting. It was wild. um Yeah. Everything was thrown off. I did i mean, but between that, I don't know how any I don't know how Kirby was able to coach the between that and his dad. That's just that's wild.
00:04:24
Speaker
um I don't know for me, like after it was over and we were talking about like, when are we going to record this? Like I was just kind of like, ah like i I'm not really talking about it yet. Like there, you know, I was looking in the grand scheme of things. Like I'm glad people are okay. You know, like, I don't know. It was just very weird for me, uh, coming out of that game. So yeah, but I would have to say that, um,
00:04:45
Speaker
I guess I guess technically that was the first our first foray into playing on a Thursday. I don't know. It's the first time that we've played on a Thursday. um <unk>t I don't know how the math checks out on that, but I would imagine we played on a Thursday and like on like New Year's Day being on a Thursday or whatever. But like it being a, you know, a work day, a work day like that was that was weird. I definitely got like like they're like definitely jokes like the first meeting I went to in the morning and was like, oh, you're you're here today. today I figured you were just going to take off with your dribbling. I switched to my background to so UGA that day, and I definitely got comments for it. because you know i mean
00:05:26
Speaker
ah Man, 10 out of 10 do not recommend ah having a major college football game on one of the first days back from a two-week layoff. I know, right? Yeah, that was it was weird. That was weird. Thankfully, I just kind of was like, yeah, like I'm here this morning.
00:05:44
Speaker
Um, and I was like, I'll, I'll definitely be gone, you know, for the game. So, um, worked out, but was still, was still odd had already done the pregame run, you know, new new year's day. We didn't know. Um, yeah, all that, you know, it it was, it was interesting. So.
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah. i i was i told i talked a lot of I talked a big game about being able to to do the pregame run two days in a row. It became very, very quickly ah the unrealistic as my day just imploded from work. um Yeah. I even had like a call that was scheduled for the kickoff time and I ended up trying to i ended up moving it to the next day, but I was so frustrated that the game was on first. thing I remember you, Sandy, you had a call. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We, we, Kim and I did manage to do, we did redo our pregame run, like basically like at lunch on, on the second. Uh, but it was much, much shorter, um, than ours are near our new year's day run. So, but yeah.
00:06:45
Speaker
You know, and and we had, we had known, we, we came into our game. I mean, we would have anyways would have known all the other results. Um, but it also being a day, day later. Um, and unfortunately the trend that it had started stayed true with us in that, uh, every team that got a buy lost, um, and this inaugurable and in this inaugural 12 team playoff. Um, still think that's kind of weird. Uh, although and I think Kirby pointed out like, well, you know, two of those teams were.
00:07:11
Speaker
We're better anyway in Penn State in Texas, but I don't know. I expect we can talk about this later, but I've already anticipated changes, but we'll see. We should probably we should probably save that for the season review, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:29
Speaker
But as far as the Sugar Bowl goes, I think that, I don't know, I never got confirmation. like I guess that both teams were quarantined or are held to their you know held to their hotels um during that time period. I think that that that was that was like a question because at the time we were getting reports that UGA was being and sheltered in place and we were wondering what the impacts were on on PrEP and if Notre Dame had the same restraints. I never saw a confirmation that Notre Dame was.
00:07:57
Speaker
i Saw I was watching like I was trying to figure out like even like like pregame like you know because like you're now you can't watch game day game day was yesterday like That was awful too. That was another thing that I did not appreciate So I ended up like I just turned on yeah ESPN because that's the channel the game was gonna be on and like the guide said it was like NBA Countdown or NBA some kind of NBA show and it wasn't it was like a Special Sports Center and Um, and so they had kind of a pregame on there at least. Um, and I do remember from there, I think it was Laura Rutledge. She was doing a lot of reporting from New Orleans. She basically, she said that like, yes, both teams were like sheltering in place. Notre Dame actually never even went. Like Georgia ended up in the evening, early evening, I think late afternoon, early evening on New Year's day, going over for a walkthrough at the Superdome. Um, and Notre Dame didn't, and they did their walkthrough, like in their team, like in some like ballroom at the hotel or something like that.
00:08:50
Speaker
um They never went over there. so Interesting. what i know that is That is actually and and and ah an interesting approach. I guess it worked. Maybe we yeah you should. be ready to do Maybe we need to do walkthroughs at the hotel. Oh, man.
00:09:07
Speaker
But I will say, I guess we can talk about the, um, the game itself, like it ultimately came down to two plays. It came down. Well, it came down to 17 points in 54 seconds. So that's hard to overcome. Um, I, I will say like it felt off first play of the game. It felt off to me. Like we ran that toss sweep first play of the game.
00:09:29
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They chase it down. We missed multiple blocks after. I have not really watched the game, but I've looked at that play and like we had multiple guys just totally whiff on blocks and ETN got eaten up. and I was just kind of like, yeah.
00:09:42
Speaker
yeah Suboptimal start. um You know, what would we get three out, three out and putt, I think. Right. But then they didn't really do anything either. um Shoot, their first play of the game. Riley Leonard tried to throw two four passes. Can't do that, young man.
00:10:00
Speaker
I mean, welcome, welcome to, welcome to how I felt the entire game. Like, I guess, I guess that, you know, we talked about, you talked about 17 points in 54 seconds. Like that, that literally was the game. But if you were to take a step back and you know, you know me, I like to play the game. If I had told you before the game, the Gunner Stockton was going to have Gunner Stockton was going to go 20 for 32 for 234 yards, one touchdown and zero interceptions. I would have said how much, how much did we win by? I would have said exactly. But then you follow it up with Georgia's going to rush 29 times for 62 yards.
00:10:41
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that is that is not that is still not ideal. That is not for joy to to quote our friends. No, but then you can but then you can flip it over and say Notre Dame is going to run one play inside of Georgia's red zone. Yeah, yeah, no, exactly. I mean, but then then you look then you look at the flip side. If I told you before the game that rather than it was going to go 15 for 24 and for 90 yards, yeah that stat line would not be.
00:11:08
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ecstatic for for them. um I mean, we were worried about him. Everybody was worried about him as ah as a runner. Other than one play, I think it was for 30 yards he ran for one play. He's only had 50 yards.
00:11:24
Speaker
Yeah, it was like, it was the, it was the, you know, 32 yard, he had a 32 yard run where he kind of like, again, like I, like I said on the, like I said on the, on the, on the on the podcast, like the pregame, um, you know, he, they, they parted the waves and no one was there and he just took off running. It wasn't like a design run or anything like that. Yeah. Kind of took off running and took advantage of, of an open field.
00:11:50
Speaker
When they were doing the design runs, it was for short yardage. His was, it was volume, right? It wasn't, he wasn't ripping off long chunk runs. It was the short volume runs. He was the leading rusher. Uh, he ran for 80 yards, 91 total would then 11 lost on negative place. Um, yeah. And that was the thing. Like, I know I'll, I'll say that something that you, you texted, I don't know what either me or one of our threads during the game, you're like,

Analyzing Game Performance

00:12:18
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man, are we really going to waste like an all time defensive performance? Um, which was frustrating. and
00:12:24
Speaker
Uh, cause the defense, I mean, the defense basically you could say held them to nine points at the three field goals. Um, you know, the one touchdown. They didn't score an offensive touchdown. Well, I mean, they did, but it was a short on a short field and one play coming off that sack fumble. Um, and that was the only play they ran from our red zone, by the way. They never entered the red zone via their offense. That is crazy to me that that like that has wowed to me that that happened in a game that Georgia lost. You're looking at like kind of how we picked the game. You know, we were similar like in points like it. But if what's crazy is if we had scored as many points as we thought we were going to. You had 35 to 26. I had 24 to 21. I mean, even 24 points would have won the game.
00:13:14
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um i did not have george only scoring 10 points um on my bingo bingo card um that was that was frustrating yeah so notre dame was missing their number one linemen and it didn't actually look like that they were missing their number one one defensive linemen um they pressured they pressured the hell out of us all game long they had a good game plan once i once the game kind of was underway and you could see Like they basically were saying, Hey Gunner Stockton, we're going to make you beat us. Which if you're the opposing team, that's, that's probably a fair, a fair strategy. Like, yeah. But he answered that call pretty well. Um, I don't think that there's a whole lot. I think at one point, at one point in the first half yeah ESPN threw up a stat that showcased that Gunner was like perfect. Like he.
00:14:07
Speaker
yeah He was like nine for nine or something like that. um And I remember thinking to myself, like, holy crap, like, I did not see that coming. And good Lord, he connected on the bomb to Arian Smith, yeah which Carson Beck, it took him three years to figure out how to do something like that. And Gunner gunner goes out and does it in his first start against the one of the top defenses in the country, um you know number 17 in the country.
00:14:35
Speaker
um ah yeah ah ah Gunnar Stockton did everything right in this game. um I think that there are a couple oft if I could nitpick him a little bit,
00:14:47
Speaker
I think that he very much like what we've seen from Beck this season um was found himself in situations where he should have stepped up in the pocket like the strip fumble. um I think that if he steps up into the pocket he's got to feel he's got to get a feel for um how his offensive line is performing and where his offensive line is on the field. but When you're left tackle is getting worked and he's getting run around like you just have to anticipate that when he disappears from your field of view that you've got to step up in the pocket because that defensive lineman is pretty much right behind you yeah yeah and that's exactly what happened that's exactly what happened to Carson Beck too um the other the other couple nitpicky things that I would say about Gunner I was a little surprised at how I was expecting him to be able to throw the ball on the run
00:15:39
Speaker
better than he did. And I'm sure that some of that's going to come with time and reps in game, like, you know, full speed, yeah not not playing ones versus twos or whatever. But but um I thought that him, I thought that rolling him rolling the pocket would be more effective than it actually was, if that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, it felt like we didn't do it as much as I thought we would, but maybe that was due to the fact that the offensive line was getting absolutely housed. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, and to your like him, I feel like the, him being able to sense the rush and get a feel for that stuff. I think, I think that's just, uh, due to lack of playing time and lack of experience. I think that thing would come over a time, I would think, but in his first start, I'm not totally shocked. And I will say, and I don't, you know, I don't want to go on the like,
00:16:28
Speaker
Blame Bobo train. I'm not going to do that, but I will say like on that call, um, the lead of the sack fumble, like, you know, we, we put Freeling in a one-on-one situation where he's been getting beat multiple times that half. And we do a dropback play action deep shot and don't give him any help. Like we don't have a tight end over there helping him. We don't have ETN helping him shift the guy. Uh, we just let him go out there one-on-one and he got beat and he'd been getting, been getting beat. Um,
00:16:58
Speaker
And then he, I mean, ultimately they moved him and they, they started shifting the line around, um, and put someone else out there. So, um, not a fan of the play call. Um, you know, I think Kirby said, you know, hindsight, 20, 20, good getting that get to the halftime. You're down 63, six to three, you know, in the moment, be aggressive. I get it. Um, I'm not going to fault that. I do think that play call was a suspect, including the play design of not helping out your, your left tackle who's already struggling.
00:17:26
Speaker
The protection. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, speaking of protections and, you know, pre presn-snap reads, maybe we've, you know, and think I think I was texting the thread about, you know,
00:17:39
Speaker
but There were a couple of plays where it seemed as though the offensive line was a little confused because they were like turning around and looking at him and a couple of times. And then those ended up being plays that that like we got blown up on. um yeah There were also some plays where we would run the ball into the teeth of the defense kind of thing. like I think think I messaged the message you guys. like we've got We've got to be able to check out of out of some of these plays because yeah There were multiple instances where it was very clear that they were just going to sell out for the run. And we had ourselves in a run and a run fit and didn't have the right and didn't have the right protections. Yeah. And I think that's the, so to me, like it's that stuff, like that is the difference between a guy and his first start and Carson back. And like, I totally agree. Like Gunner, you you look at his stat line, like he he went over on coaches over unders, you know, know, for passing yards, stuff like that, like had a, had a good stat line. And I think he played well. Um, but I think like, I don't have any, you know, I don't want to say like negative things about him. I do. I think the difference that is the difference though, of like, it allowed Notre Dame to have a different game plan. Cause they didn't have to game plan for Carson Beck. They were able to do what you're saying. Like, Hey, we're, we're going to dare Gunner to throw. Like we're going to take away your run. If Carson's in there, I don't think they're able to do that. Um, are I don't, I don't think that would have been their strategy.
00:19:07
Speaker
I don't think their strategy would have been, we're going to make Carson Peck beat us because they know you know they know what they've what he can do um there. I do think that would have potentially helped the run game um with the backs. I mean, who knows? We'll never know, but that's just my my gut feeling. And then like you said, the checking out of the place, you know, checking and even maybe rearranging the protection, you know, um helping the line.
00:19:30
Speaker
You know, identify certain guys or whatever, who knows. I mean, he did, he did a good job of spreading the ball around. He had seven, seven different receivers had more than one catch. Um, I will say that, um, Arian Smith with his one catch for 67 yards. Okay. This is, this is, this is where I'm going to, this is where I'm going to go. Bobo bashing. And I'm going to go, I'm going to, I'm going to make myself angry all over again.
00:19:55
Speaker
Okay. um This feels like a situation like what Ohio State experienced when they lost to Michigan where they didn't use their best talent on the field. Marion Smith had one reception for 67 yards like to me based on how he was breaking free and what his skill set does I feel like that that was we underutilized him and Chip Kelly and the loss to Michigan basically said that he recognizes that he had a Jeremiah Smith out there and he didn't work to get him the ball. And then that's where he pivoted his offense and was able to leverage the strengths that his ah offense has and maximize it as best as possible. That is probably one of the biggest issues that I have with how this game panned out.
00:20:43
Speaker
um you know i'm i'm glad I'm glad that Delp had a catch. i mean according to the According to the chart, which I didn't realize this until looking at the the stats, like Henry Delp had a couple of receptions. like What? ah Something weird happened with their stats. um I'll say that. so they haven't like they They repeated some names in the stats. I noticed that when I was looking at some stuff up on on a website.
00:21:11
Speaker
Um, they, they had Oscar Delp in there twice and they had, uh, they had Nate Frazier in there twice with like different, they like had their middle names or something. I'm not, it was weird. Yeah. Anyway, I don't remember that i maybe. Is that lucky? Is it lost? Is that lucky? No, it's dealt. They, this it's Oscar is his name is must be Oscar Henry Delp and they doubled his stuff and they listed him twice and they did the same thing with somebody else. I think it was Nate Frazier. I can't remember.
00:21:41
Speaker
Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, like Lost and Lucky's nowhere on on the sheet there. he had He's had some clutch catches ah throughout the season. I don't know. So you look at that and you look at the the fact that on on the plays that we had that would put us in contention late we went with a couple of fade routes to players that I feel like that we probably would not normally be throwing to I mean the lucky one I could get I could understand maybe I'm not convinced that I'm not convinced that that wasn't a
00:22:21
Speaker
bad throw by Gunner, but um ah at the same time, like you're asking a first time starter to throw a fade. It's already a low percentage play call in and of itself. And then you you tack on the fact that it's a first year starter high pressure your situation. Like, can we put our we put our players in a higher percentage play? um Basically put your players in a better success, in a better position to succeed, right?
00:22:47
Speaker
Yeah. And then, and then the fade, the fade throw to Nitro, like, dude, the guy has caught what, like three passes all season long or something. Like, I don't know. To me, that just seems like an egregious, an egregious like problem.
00:23:02
Speaker
well um Well, I felt like if you're going to, clearly you're going to go four and fourth down because we did. Um, it's four down territory. Like you don't need to get all the yards that you need in that situation. And I feel like that was out there a couple of times. Um, yeah, I mean, on the, on the receiver distribution, like that, so throw a bone for, uh, Brent Rollins, he had tweeted out like the targets, the targets for receivers in this game, only four receivers were targeted. Uh, Dylan Bell led with 11 targets. Then you got Dom Lovett for. Aaron Smith, that long catch. That was the only time we threw to him the entire game. We had one target, the nitro toggle, the one target. Um, and that was it. So we did not target London Humphries. Um, we didn't target Anthony Evans. Um, and the, the, the one for Arian.
00:23:47
Speaker
really weird. Only one target to him. I mean, he's been, he's the leading receiver. that's He's the leading receiver. Exactly. He's the fastest player on the field. Like to me, yeah it just feels like that we didn't put our best foot forward. It's like, it's like when you go into an interview and you feel all good about the, about the job and then you completely bomb the interview. Like, i don' I don't know this this to me was just this is this is where this was the game for me that was a bit of a turning point for me on how I feel about our offense. Because I felt that in the past Bobo has been
00:24:25
Speaker
the unfairly criticized because of the situations that he was put in because his defenses in the past when he had failed the most his defenses in the past failed him when we had just an absolute abysmal defensive situation so he was pressed to to try to perform and we would score points but we wouldn't win games and i felt like that that was unfair because the defenses in those time periods sucked well That's why I say like we really really screwed the pooch on it epic defensive performance and an epic defensive game plan. We've completely shut Notre Dame down and I feel like that that is going to be lost to the annals of time and
00:25:05
Speaker
we just couldn't figure out how to beat this team and there are other teams throughout all of college football that have less talent that were able to put up more points on these guys yeah and these guys were missing they're one of their best defensive assets and we still could only muster 10 points And we just kept doing the stupid things over and over again. ah like When I talk about personnel on the the two downs, you know when we throw the fade routes, when we absolutely had to have touchdowns, those are examples of just errors that you can't make at this level. On top of that, early in the game, the fumble to ETN, we put Anthony Evans on a
00:25:54
Speaker
key swing block for for a play when his entire body of work throughout the entire season is such that you do not trust him to actually make that play. Why don't we have Dylan Bell out there on that hinge point block? Because if he delays that man, if he delays that end, just a fraction of a second It allows our running back ETN to get out of the way from a helmet hitting the football. yeah And then you might not fumble the ball. Maybe you take a loss there. I'm not asking someone to like completely, you know, hold the man up there. Anthony Evans is a small guy, but even if he just gets a hand on him, um, he may slow him down enough to where the helmet doesn't hit the ball. Yeah. I feel like if that's Bell or Lovett or Aaron Smith, it's a different result on that play.
00:26:46
Speaker
And like these little personnel things are just the attention to detail and the attention to what's been going on. Like the slow start continued. We only scored three points. I think that when you look at this game and then you saw Bill Shanks send through that that message about the the slow starts throughout the entirety of the season. And you start to, study it was like an epiphany for me. I was like, Oh my gosh, this is, this is, this is an accurate assessment, except this time we couldn't figure out the second half. And there frankly is no reason for us to have not figured out the second half.
00:27:24
Speaker
There's no reason that we should not have figured this out because Notre Dame was not doing Jack anyway. Like, yes, they came out and scored. They scored the the kickoff return, but that took two seconds off the clock. We had the entirety of the second half to figure things out. You still couldn't do it. Yeah. All right. A few things.
00:27:43
Speaker
When I do have to say, I'm kind of proud of us for making it this far and not talking about Parker Jones. But I feel very disappointed if we don't at least mention it like again, again, didn't didn't out affect the outcome of the game. um But that one like that was what that was on the long the deep past Aryan. So that right there, you know, that happens with the penalty and like we still could have scored or whatever. But We were in much better, but you still have it first and 10. You can still. Right. Right. But so there, that's the the three points right there. Right. So hopefully maybe we get it getting in seven. You say on the play, we talked about at length where ETN fumbled, you know, ah he would hope that at worst you're getting three out of that. You know, I mean, there's, there's, there was, the stuff was there. Um, there's the turnover down to the end of the game. We can talk about where we went through the multiple fades.
00:28:31
Speaker
There was, there was that sequence where like we had a turnover on downs and then they had a turnover on downs. We had the ball back and then we had turnover on downs again, including like we line up to go for and forth down. We get a false start. Then we landed the plant. Then they jumped off sides.
00:28:47
Speaker
So then we get to, we get again, now we're like fourth and two again, and we still couldn't get it. Like it was those things, like it was those short yardage situations. They're the most frustrating, I think for me that like we couldn't figure out a way to get two yards in those scenarios. Um, I do have to say too, though, I will say like, honestly, I am.
00:29:06
Speaker
I almost feel like their punter was the player of the game. Notre Dame's punter. I mean, he flipped the field multiple times. And that that made a big difference. That made a big difference because we were you know, there were times where we would we would punt or they would punt it to us. You know, we're deep in our own territory, wouldn't do anything. And then we put back to them, then the midfield. They gained they gained some I would say fairly significant yardage off of trading punts during the game. He was good. He was good. He lived up to his Australianness.
00:29:35
Speaker
Yeah, five points 43 yards average. Two of those punts were inside the 20 and he had the along the lawn. That was one of those, one of those inside the 20. I know it was a, it was, it was his long 54 yards. Yeah. Yeah. And then their kicker, you know, they've had kicker kicking problems all year and he was perfect. Um, I mean, you could argue special teams won the game. I mean, the like Oh yeah. Special teams and turnovers like in a tight game.
00:30:00
Speaker
in a tight game, evenly matched, special teams and turnovers win the game. I had to look it up. I was like, man, when was the last time there was a kick? Do you know? Do you know? I didn't know. I had to look it up. I could not remember. When was the last time Georgia gave up a kickoff return for a touchdown? I was actually thinking the same thing. You're like, man, that like nine times out of 10, Cass Jones tackles that man. Yeah, it was.
00:30:22
Speaker
The other thing is too, I was like, okay, this is fun inside sources. Um, you were texting at halftime, like we need to steal a possession. Uh, we need to do an onsite kick. And I was like, please know Kirby's onsite kicks never work. Like just kick it deep. And then like, they run it back for touchdown. I was like, guess we should have done onsite.
00:30:43
Speaker
I mean, yeah, at that point, like what's, uh, but I will, uh, I think drew Butler said that, uh, that it looked like, um, he just got under the kick. Like it, I think it was not, it was not a design kick. It was not a design kick short. It was not a, it was not a fat John Faber special.
00:31:04
Speaker
We were not doing directional kicking. You can't say stuff like that when I'm drinking my water. I almost spit it out of my monitor. Oh, man. um Yeah, but speaking speaking to the the Parker Jones situation, like, I don't know, oh man, like that kid has taken such such heat and looking at the reviews, like I've seen I've seen George Foster talk about like the line that you're supposed to be behind isn't actually the white, but like dude, every every game I've ever seen, they're all up on the white. I mean, Kirby literally had a guy whose job was to pull him back.
00:31:47
Speaker
And yeah, that ref that ref went into the green area, man. Like, dude, I don't know. I feel like nice. I feel like some of those, some of those times they're, they're going to call that flag and then give it a sideline warning as opposed to an actual penalty. I've never, I've never seen the penalty called.
00:32:03
Speaker
I don't know that I've ever seen it called either, but I don't, I can't remember the time I've seen someone seen a referendum to someone like that either. But I will say there is no such thing as a warning for that. Um, they don't do that. That if you, when there's contact with an official there, it's a, it's a penalty period. There there's no, like, it's not like the sideline warning. Um, it's different.
00:32:25
Speaker
So when, so when the ref comes out and does, and does the sideline warning, that is a different penalty. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So this is different. So there's like, um, I forget the exact wording because I definitely went down, you know, me, I went down like the, uh, rule book,

Critical Game Moments

00:32:42
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um, the rule book rabbit hole and, uh, and read up on it. And, uh, yeah, it is, it is different. It's not the sideline warning.
00:32:52
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Yeah, you hate that. Like literally, literally nothing went right for us. You know, all the, all the things that could go wrong went wrong. You know, we lost the turnover battle, gave up a special teams touchdown, gave up a sack fumble inside our, inside our own, our own 20, gave them a short field touchdown. Like just, if you don't have anything to offset, offset that, I mean, the,
00:33:19
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The gamecast showcases that this game was over as soon as that fumble happened, or as soon as they scored after that fumble, I guess is what I should say. Like that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I didn't really feel like it went to 80. It went to 85 percent after after that. Yeah. After that touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it went to 92 percent after it was 20 to three.
00:33:43
Speaker
but Yeah, yeah, yeah, I yeah, I mean, I don't know. I felt like we were still in it, but it wasn't. I know we were. It was a four quarter game, I guess I would say. I mean, because it wasn't really like over, over until the whole fake punt, running 11 guys off the field. It was over, over after that happened.
00:34:03
Speaker
Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna harp on the coaches for this like as soon as that happened I was like call a timeout call timeout like this is the time when you want to call a timeout like there's no way there's no way that they're going to run this play like they have no incentive to do so because if they don't get it then they're giving us life. And we have shown throughout the entirety of the game that we can't do crap. Like there's nothing like we we couldn't get anything going. yeah So like there was no incentive for them to run that play. So I feel like Kirby should call the timeout and said, guys, whatever you do, we're not jumping off sides. Yeah. For what it's worth, they fall started, but whatever.
00:34:48
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Yeah, like I said, everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. We got refs making calls that they shouldn't be making. We got um calls they missed or whatever. um There was an egregious pass interference call on, I think it was, wasn't it Dylan Bell? It was Dylan Bell. They threw the pass down the sideline and even even even noted Noted a Joker that hates the crying about the refs Chris Marlar was like guys. What are we doing? i saw That there was funny So I agree with you. I agree with you I think Kirby said post came like he was like, ah you know, he's like they're they're trying to get us to call timeout Like that's why they're doing that. He's like I did so I didn't want to do it um but
00:35:31
Speaker
I know again that I feel like that's you know in the peach bowl coaching in the peach bowl you know he called a huge timeout on a fake punt situation um save the game um I don't know them's the bricks I guess I mean if they get if you if if something goes wrong and they do run the play or you do jump off sides like to me it's risk reward it goes back to everything that we talked everything that I've talked about that has gone wrong from an offensive standpoint was just risk-reward, like all these different calls, like the fade routes, risk-reward, putting someone out there that can't block risk-reward, calling an aggressive play call at the end of at the end of the half when you really are in this game and are dominating and and showcasing that you can hold these guys, they couldn't do anything on us either. So you do that risky play, again, risk-reward on having someone out there that's getting absolutely, just getting absolutely warped all game long, and you give them no help,
00:36:27
Speaker
Like risk reward like man. We needed we needed man ball Kirby back at the end of the first half I mean, I don't I don't hate the fact that he's trying to go after points But I'm worried that these last two games are gonna like haunt Kirby for Ever cuz there was there was a period of time when he would not do that, right? Like he would not go for that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And we've got this aggressive Kirby that wants to do wants to do things and that's that's great. I think that he I think that we had time to actually get down there. Like we had more than enough time to get down there to kick a field goal.
00:37:06
Speaker
yeah Yeah, we didn't. We did. And I don't hate it. I just hate that we, again, just put people out there and and percentages, the the percentages were against us on that particular play call. Yeah, man. ah the i would I would wager to say that if we play this game nine times out of 10, we're probably winning it nine times out of 10.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I still feel like, I mean, I didn't see, like they didn't do anything offensively, um, that would concern me. You know, we, we handled them well. Um, I would tend to agree. I will, i I will give them credit. Let me like their defense was definitely better than I thought it was going to be. Um, and they played really well in special teams and, and they've got a good coaching stuff.
00:37:52
Speaker
You know, I mean, Freeman pulled out some tricks and they worked. Um, he was very pleased with himself when they worked too. Something. Yeah, he was. Yeah. The, I will say that I, I, before the game, I had a lot of respect for Marcus Freeman. I still, I still liked Marcus Freeman, but like him doing all the strutting and all that kind of stuff on the sideline. Like, yeah. Yeah. Save that for the end of the game. Like Kirby does that. Does some of that stuff like at the end of the game after he's gotten a shower of Gatorade.
00:38:22
Speaker
Right. um Yeah. I don't know, man. um usher was Usher was definitely happy with himself a couple of times. um But I definitely am going to be watching the games as they pan out, because you know it's interesting that there's now going to be a guaranteed black African-American coach that's going to be um be coaching in the national championship for the first time ever. Cause you know, hit him and it's going to be a showdown between him and Franklin. And I guess if, if there has to be one person to do it, I would much rather it be, uh, I wouldn't much rather it be Marcus Freeman than James Franklin.
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah. It'll be interesting to see how they do, um you know, how they go how they go the rest of the way. I have a feeling that they are going to match up pretty nicely with note with ah Penn State, but if they do make it to the national championship and they have to play Texas or Ohio State, that is going to be an interesting matchup because it's going to be a high-powered offense. And obviously we didn't have a high-powered offense, but I have a feeling that that's going to be a bloodbath.
00:39:35
Speaker
Um, I mean, I feel like it's Ohio States to lose at this point, like they're playing so well. For sure. For sure. But I do. There is part of you that wonders like, okay, is Notre Dame's D the question that I have still on the floor is Georgia's offense has been all season long and Notre Dame's offense or Notre Dame's defense has been good all season

Offense vs Defense: Who's to Blame?

00:39:57
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long. Is it because our offense is just crap and we can't figure it out or is Notre Dame's defense really that good?
00:40:04
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Yeah, that's a good question. That's what I'm, that's what I'm, that's what I'm wondering, like against a Chip Kelly offense, against the, the Circusian offense, like what are, what are they going to do? You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I was just pulling up the, the times and everything. Um, why don't we do a little, uh, uh, coaches, coaches pick them briefly on that. So you got your name, Penn state is in the orange wall. That's tomorrow night, by the way, because we're recording on Wednesday, Thursday night, seven 30 nerd names favored by one and a half. And I don't, I don't know. i mean They're playing that game tomorrow. Yeah.
00:40:39
Speaker
Yeah, play these games on Saturday, please. That was the thing, too, about this game is like, I mean, know I feel like it should not be lost anyone that Notre Dame or that Penn State is, you know, had basically two day head start. um yeah that That was why they moved the game to be at four instead of it originally was going to be seven forty five. So I think both coaches were like, you know, the earlier we can play it the better because we want to get rest and you know get home to get prep for Penn State.
00:41:05
Speaker
um I feel like that is an advantage. I i that that i give the coaching advantage to Freeman though over Franklin. So I guess I'll go with Notre Dame. Yeah, I'm gonna go with Notre Dame on that one too. Okay.
00:41:17
Speaker
And then Friday night, so the next night, Friday night, seven 30 again. And so this is interesting to me that they're playing on the cotton bowl. I mean, Texas basically has a home game. Um, so yeah, Ohio state, Texas, but Ohio state is favored by five and a half. Um, I still feel like when is, when is that game taking place? Friday night, seven 30 Eastern at the cotton bowl in the cotton bowl. Where's the name Dallas?
00:41:41
Speaker
Dallas. So the only thing about that, that I'm curious about is, um, so they're playing that on Friday. So the only thing about that is, so the Miami game, the orange bowl, is that inside or is that outside? or Either way, it's either way. It's in Florida. It doesn't really matter. But the cotton bowl Dallas.
00:41:58
Speaker
It's going to be 30 to 30 degrees out there. They're playing in it. at It's at like Jerry World. Oh, it is. Oh, I thought it was. I thought it was in the Cotton Bowl was at. I thought it was at the Cotton Bowl. It's at. It says it's AT and&T Stadium in Arlington. I think that's isn't that isn't that Jerry World? Yes, that would make sense that they would not have it outdoors. But yeah, that's true. Yeah. OK, that's right. Yeah. Never mind.
00:42:26
Speaker
but there could be travel issues getting to the game. There could be. That would be interesting. Yeah. Um, yeah. and I mean, I was just looking at, I was just looking at some, some weather predictions. I mean, Ohio state definitely is going to have, they could, but they could easily have some issues with travel for sure. I'm sure they're, I'm sure they're already there. I mean, when I said travel, I guess I meant like so fans being able to get to the game, but okay. So let's say I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go stick with Ohio state though. Who are you going to go with?
00:42:57
Speaker
I really, I really want to go with Texas on this one. Basically a home game. Screw it. I'm going to go against you, Texas. but Give me, give me, give me the Longhorns. I made a joke. I made a joke with my client. So I had my, my Texas client that I have, uh, I had a meeting yesterday with him and they were like, Hey JP, I noticed that you don't have any, any red and he written in black on. I noticed that your background is, is not the same either. And I was like, uh,
00:43:27
Speaker
I told him, I told him, can you guys just go ahead and win it so that we can say that we beat the national champion twice? Twice. Oh my God. I'm going to refrain commenting on that further until we do the season review. I have thoughts. Um, on that note, so we did a coaching, a coach, coaches, style, big, um, uh, the over under coaches, over under as results for the year are in my death March was successful.
00:43:53
Speaker
I was able to keep you at arm's length, uh, by with both of us going five and three in the picks, uh, for the sugar bowl. Uh, so I finished 61 51. You finished it in even 500, 56, 56. Uh, but as you said, you took the intercontinental belt by, uh, winning the pickups for the season, the intercontinental championship. Yeah. Uh, so good.
00:44:20
Speaker
By like one pick. By one pick. I know. it So good. So good. All right. I can't remember which one it was. Oh, from the games this week? Yeah. Well, this week we both went one and two. So you basically just like kept, kept the lead. You kept the lead. But we did pick different games because I, I picked Arizona state to win and man, they almost did. If Arizona state, if they could have stopped Texas on 4th and 13, or if that targeting had been called or I'm not saying it should have been, by the way, I'm just saying there were multiple routes ah for Arizona state, or if they had special teams in the first half, I don't know. That was, that was the best game of the semis or the quarters for sure.
00:44:57
Speaker
Yeah, dude, speaking of that game, did you see the, um, did you see all of the nonsense that happened with the field goal on that bounced, that bounced through the uprights and how there was a lot, there was a controversy about how it was accounted? Yes. It should not have counted again. I went, I I pulled that say, give me, give me the gym would explainer. I pulled up the rule book and search for that, dude. It's like literally like the first sentence of like a field goal on like how to score points on a field goal. Um, it says like, it says if the ball goes through the uprights before hitting the ground, like it's literally right there. Like the ball can not hit the ground and then go through the uprights and account. So yeah, I figured, I figured it was something along those lines where as soon as it touches the ground, it's, it's basically no good.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's I don't have it up anymore or anything, but I promise it's like in the, uh, there's the section of like how to score points on a scrimmage kick or whatever, um, in the real book and it, it says right there, um, like in the definition of how, how to get points. So.
00:46:03
Speaker
Wasn't there something, wasn't there something else that was kind of weird recently where someone was, maybe it was in the NFL where they did like a, where they did like a free kick. a Free kick. Yeah. That's been in, that's always there in the rule book. It just, it's this, and people have attempted free kicks. I've just never, that's the first time I've seen anyone make it. Yeah. So if you do a fair, and anytime in the NFL, at least I don't, I'm actually not sure if this is in college or not. We could, we could look it up.
00:46:28
Speaker
Anytime you fair catch a punt, you can ah attempt a free kick for a field goal. It's just that usually you're so far away that you won't attempt one. The reason it worked here was he did a fair catch and there was a 15 yard penalty. So it moved it up 15 yards. And so that's why they were close enough to have it actually work. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:47
Speaker
All right. I found, I have the rule book up and I found it. How scored section four of rule eight of scoring for a field goal. How scored. It says a field goal shall be scored if a scrimmage kick, which may be a drop kick or place kick passes over the crossbar between the uprights of the receiving team's goal before it touches a player of the kicking team or the ground. I don't know how you can make it anymore plan. So the Arizona state kick should, that conspiracy theory has been debunked.
00:47:14
Speaker
that would be it that would be an interesting That would have been an interesting wrinkle. I mean, I assume that these guys would have yeah they would have they were have corrected themselves. yeah But that that would have been an interesting outcome. Like, hey, you can actually bounce. and actually It's like it's like ah when you're when you're playing beer pong or something, or or in our case, like most recently, my my teenager and my wife and I We had a giant disagreement on rules of UNO and how to play UNO, like house rules kind of thing. That's awesome. Sure. You can totally bounce through a fair goal. If it goes through the... It's kind of like a goal. It doesn't matter how it goes in the goal. It's a goal. Hey, let's do something happier. You want to have a basketball minute for Fletcher?
00:48:04
Speaker
Let's talk about basketball, Jim. I had a i had ah ah session today at church this evening and and they the guy that was that was leading, his name is Gary, he he was actually talking about how he was a Kentucky fan. He was like, who won? who I don't even know who won the game yesterday. and I was like, you know who won? Yes, yes, I know who won.
00:48:30
Speaker
Oh man, an 82 to 69 win over Kentucky. and um What a game. It was awesome. um the and do I still say like I have not seen the rim shake ah a dunk in Stegman Coliseum like that. He's the first one since Sean Coleman.
00:48:49
Speaker
and that I remember to to dunk and have the rim just like continuously shake after it. ah It's incredible. I i enjoy watching him play, but did the whole team. And I was like, you know, we get that big lead at halftime. You got Newell hits the book the buzzer beater to go up what, like 13, I think at the half. um But like it then it started to go like how the Georgia Kentucky game tends to go. It's like you got a halftime lead, but then they get back and then they just take over.
00:49:16
Speaker
And they cut it to, I think as close they got in the second half was what, five. So that's what was, that's what was, I don't know, I think even more impressive to me is it's like Kentucky goes on this run. They cut the lead to five. Mike White calls timeout and the team kind of regrouped and we're able to push it back out. Um, you know, then it kind of hovered around 10 for most of the rest of the game. So it was beautiful. It was beautiful. I'm sure this tag was insane.
00:49:40
Speaker
It was definitely um rocking and in there at multiple points, I felt like. yeah um I almost i made some memes that I'm going to hold on to centered around Mr. How do you say it? Le few? Le few? Yeah. Le few? Yeah. I have some ideas.
00:50:03
Speaker
Okay, I think ah hold him in I'll hold him in my back pocket. But dude, he was I was like, who's this guy? I haven't haven't really heard. I hadn't really heard his name that much. I'm sure like for those that you have watched all of the all of all of the games probably do, but um dude, he was lightening it up. Yeah, I watched the whole game. Yeah, he's he he's been playing. He's been playing. he So the the funny thing about him is so he and DeShane Montgomery Duchy and Montgomery, they're both transferred from the same school. They they both came from ah Mount St. Mary's, which Fripp Dog turned me on to that. He, he enlightened me on that while they were here over Christmas. So, okay. um How about, oh, go ahead. Carter was asking about Carter's favorite, favorite player is Asa Newell, which we make fun of him, or I make fun of him from the time that he was at, the last time we went to the game. um He refers to him as

Hosts' Personal Anecdotes

00:50:58
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Asa.
00:50:58
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yeah
00:51:01
Speaker
He's sorry, he's sorry, Carter himself. Sorry, Carter himself. I'm not going to leave that out because Carter's. So that's why. Every time I say asin do over, he bangs a shot. Except for when he doesn't. That's great. That's great. Yeah, dude. It was awesome. And then Carter Carter's joined. Carter's joined the chat.
00:51:23
Speaker
ah so maybe for six andtaky right I mean, we know that's what we're talking about the basketball basketball minute basketball little minute. Um, and then like I i remember one of our chats and I was like, Oh no, are that are we going to storm the court? Like don't storm storm the court. Uh, and we didn't, dude, how about Josh Brooks? Like donating a, like this, a portion of the savings, uh, cause we would have had to pay the fine, donated it towards like student promotions. Oh, that was pretty cool.
00:51:51
Speaker
Yeah, um I'll have to, we'll have to wait and see what those promotions are going to be. Like, is he going to be like, is he going to be a Jersey that Chase is going to completely destroy? yeah
00:52:03
Speaker
ah Could be, could be. Dude, the student giveaways are, are nice these days. they they i I remember they, they were shown you yesterday, like the t-shirt, the students were getting on the way and it was pretty cool. So. And they have tables now where you can like go and get your size t-shirt. We had no such things. I have promotional shirts back from when we were in college and they're like double extra large or something. They're huge. I did love the, in the, in all the post game, uh, like the basketball Twitter writers were, we're actually tweeting about Georgia. And so we appreciated, uh, the love from Rossine, Rossine finally acknowledged Georgia basketball. And even you got in on the joke. Was it the first time?
00:52:37
Speaker
No, I mean, he's done before, but he he used to have like a he used to have like a victory tweet that he would tweet like whenever it was a Tom Crane thing. So he would say like it was something about like Tom Crane is colder than Tommy Lee Jones and ah the fugitive or something like that.
00:52:55
Speaker
And so that was where like Fletcher and who's mafia are always like, where's the Mike White victory tweet? Like you need to like come up with something and he he never does it. So that's from from my following of that. I think that's kind of how that came from. Got it. Yeah, man. He was like, George, a legit tournament team like that's pretty cool.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah. He's talked to, you he was, he was hype. He was hype. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah, this team is fun to watch, man. I keep saying it over and over again, but like, I don't know. They have, I don't know what constitutes having it in basketball is, but whatever it is, they've got it. I feel like, yeah, I agree. I agree.
00:53:35
Speaker
Big, rock good, good roster, ah being well coached and. Yeah, I think the depth, the depth is definitely noticeable because yeah I found myself being like, where the heck is Santo? Yeah.
00:53:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, he's a reserve. He's a reserve, but he, he makes his presence felt. I'll say that he did. You know, he was a, he was a Kentucky commit. Actually he can, he originally committed to Kentucky. And then I think when Calipari left or whatever, um, he decommitted and ended up at Georgia. So happy to have him. I'm sure he had a bit of a chip on his shoulder last night for that.
00:54:08
Speaker
Right. I see. Um, does Jaden Newell play? He's listed on the roster. I assume that's, I assume that's ACE's. That's ACE's older brother. And he was on the team last year. So he's like a walk on. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, he's gotten into games, but he does not play much. Georgia basketball, man. They're fun. They're fun to watch.
00:54:30
Speaker
The games are fun. If you get a chance to go, um, you know, we went when they played, what was it? South Carolina state or something. Um, even that game was fun. Yeah. So, uh, don't, go don't, don't go on the court. Don't, don't go on the court. they not want you to go They do not want you to go on the court. Don't do that.
00:54:48
Speaker
Carter and his buddy went down to the court level after the game, played South Carolina State. And one of the little buddy that we had with us, he was like, I'm going to touch the court. And he stood on the court and this old man comes over and goes, I need you to get off the court. And he like shoot him.
00:55:13
Speaker
And then they were like, Hey, is it okay if we take a picture? And he goes, just as long as you don't touch the court. Nice. Nice. Yeah, man. Next step. Uh, I got Oklahoma coming to the Steg this weekend. I'll be another ranked team coming in. Um, if Georgia can get through this one with another victory, I would expect Georgia to be ranked next week. So it'd be pretty cool.
00:55:34
Speaker
I guess I don't understand like what the criteria for getting ranked is. like If you've got several marquee wins, like at what point do you deserve to be ranked? I don't know. Yeah. SEC is tough. The the schedule is murderous row. That's why this win was huge. This is when it's huge. you know Coming off the loss, it'll miss. It's hard to win on the road in the SEC, and I'm ah i' happy that that applied to Kentucky at Georgia this week. so that's awesome yeah exact Yeah, exactly. Let's say when win your home games against these <unk> these tough teams. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:08
Speaker
All right. Well, that was an extended basketball basketball minute.

Season Review Plans and Roster Changes

00:56:12
Speaker
Um, I'm starting to become the basketball segment, Jim. Ooh, nice. Nice. I like it. I like it. Uh, let's do programming note. I know, you know, we will do, we were, we tried to, I think focus just on the sugar bowl as far as football goes. This one definitely want to do like a season review, kind of like we always do. Um,
00:56:35
Speaker
I guess we should do that. Those simple things we haven't talked about that we can definitely do after the after the playoff and just kind of do a season recap and talk about ah in the in the words of our our friends overweighting since last Saturday the the feelings episode. Yeah we can do that and we can Yeah, the portal has gone wild. We didn't talk about any of that stuff. we can We can talk about that later too. i The good news is is the longer we hold off on the feelings episode, the more solidified our our roster and and staff is. Yeah, true.
00:57:06
Speaker
true true um Probably do that after the national championship, I guess so we can do the full season. I don't know. We'll see. Whatever. Well, I have some we have some other stuff um that we can potentially start start di dipping into. But we'll get to that in a second. Yeah. with you Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
00:57:24
Speaker
Cool. Well, not the result that we wanted in the Sugar Bowl. Um, but you know what? In the first 12 team playoff, we made it to the quarterfinal. Um, on the whole, like if I, what if I told you kind of thing, like being a season, you told me Georgia was going to win the SEC championship and Carson Beck get hurt in the SEC championship. And then, you know, Georgia goes out in the quarterfinal. I don't think I would have had any issue with that. I would say that by that sounds about right. Yeah. But yeah, whatever. It is what it does.
00:57:53
Speaker
Seasoned over, won the SEC. I would say that this is kind of one of those... this I don't think this is the weakest Kirby Smart team, but it'll be the weakest Kirby Smart team for a while, I feel like.
00:58:08
Speaker
Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, throw 2016 out for sure. But, uh, I would say this team could probably give 2019 everyone for their money. i would Yeah. 19 and 20. Yep. All right. and Well, we'll circle back after the national championship, but in the meantime, go dogs, go dogs.