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Where In The World Is Chris Migs?
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On this weeks show Garrett & Fax are talking Punk vs Mox, Jared Leto, Fred Willard, where Chris spread his covid this week and of course, Beast Man!
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Sibling Nicknames and Audience Growth
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me is Jimmy Fax. Do I call you Jimmy? Are we that close? You can just, you know, it's actually weird that just Fax is for people that are closer to me, right? You drop the first name. That's just how we go. I have, as I've alluded on the podcast, I have four siblings. We all call each other Fax. It is a sign of great affection.
00:01:03
Speaker
See, I've always called you facts. Calling you Jim or Jimmy felt weird, but, you know, it does make you feel like a newspaper boy in a Marvel comic.
00:01:15
Speaker
Yeah, no, and that's kind of what I'm going for with it, right? That's why it's kind of my Twitter newsboy identity. And, you know, just at the top of the bat, and I just give, you know, before we get into it, I know we got some big stuff to cover today. You know, Chris isn't able to join today. It's you and me last week, it was you and he. I did listen and just one pretty critical bit of feedback as a listener.
00:01:42
Speaker
Yeah. Not nearly enough beast man. I. OK. OK. Yeah. Yeah. The the I noticed that on the last episode the West Virginia viewership did drop pretty quick when they realized which is funny because we have been getting way more downloads out of West Virginia than we normally do. So we are hitting a market that you know podcasts aren't traveling to.
00:02:11
Speaker
Well, you know, West Virginia, we now know whether it's a wrestling show or a podcast, if it's free, they'll bring a chair and they will meet you there. They will bring their chair. They will sit down. They'll give you a listen. If we were on Spotify premium, maybe not. Right. But, but right now we're, we're, we're giving this away for free. West Virginia all in on that.
00:02:33
Speaker
That's true. You know, the second we hit that Joe Rogan level of Spotify viewer, like listenership down a little right now, we're hitting that sweet West Virginia spot, tapping into
Live Podcast Plans and Wrestling Comparisons
00:02:45
Speaker
gold. People got their lawn chairs in their front yard, their tailgating, listening to this, getting their wrestling information and they love it.
00:02:53
Speaker
This is, this is what the Appalachian professional wrestling crowd pre-games to the tailgate to they blast us. We talked about how some, some other viewers might, might listen to us during their morning commute. We're really gunning to be the official tailgate podcast of Appalachian wrestling.
00:03:10
Speaker
I don't think it is impossible that we could get some microphones, be invited there as guest of honor, and do a live set from the Buffalo Wild Wings before one of these shows.
00:03:25
Speaker
I mean, I was not joking around when I said that that has been officially added to my bucket list. Chris and I are planning a trip to Mexico City near the end of the year, so I already have plans to take off that bucket list item, and it's just getting replaced with the Buffalo Wild Wings in West Virginia.
00:03:44
Speaker
I think I am a little afraid of Shane Douglas hearing these and feel like we're not putting enough respect on the net because we are fans of this wrestling promotion. I don't want this to seem like we're joking. Yeah, I mean, I think that it's just and I don't think this is a hit on Shane at all. I think that what we're saying is Shane Douglas is very clearly the Bret Hart of Appalachian Wrestling.
00:04:11
Speaker
Right. It's just right now beast man is stone cold. Right. He's the two of them. Next time they dance is going to be their mania 13 moment. And it's just going to make, you know, one of them who's already kind of an immortal of Appalachian wrestling, it's going to just burn his star even brighter. And then the other one beast man is just going to be he's just going to move to just sites previously on thought of.
00:04:38
Speaker
So a genuine concern for me is while we could get that Bret Hart, Stone Cold WrestleMania moment out of these two, I'm worried that before we get there that maybe Shane Douglas gets a little jealous. Maybe we get a different Hart, Stone Cold moment. Maybe we get Owen versus Stone Cold and he breaks Beastman's neck because he sees that his star is burning too bright.
00:05:03
Speaker
Or it could be Austin Michaels, right? Where I'm like, he's a pro. He's going to do the job, particularly because, you know, he's, I'm sure, I'm sure Shane Douglas in 2022 has some pretty substantial back problems. Right. So just, Hey, I'll give the kid the rub on my way out. I don't know when I'm going to be back, but I'm, I'm already Hall of Fame, rarefied air.
00:05:30
Speaker
Based on Beastman's valet, the term give the kid the rub means something completely different to him. I watched him jerk a bone off at a four-year-old and say, I don't even remember what the fuck he said. I said it in the podcast earlier, but it was something about like, here's a bone for you. Well, obviously, when I said give him a rub, I meant, you know, the spices that you and Chris used last week. It sounded like it went really well, surprisingly well. So, I mean,
Wrestling Reflections and Surprising Matches
00:06:00
Speaker
getting Beastman involved in the wrestling seasoning game seems like a no-brainer. And that's maybe a way that Shane can kind of get some money off of this, right? He gets a couple of percentage points on all the Beastman seasonings when those hit the market.
00:06:18
Speaker
Dude's gourmet is fucking up, not already being in Beastman's DMs, getting this set up. Okay, so that was your complaint about last week's episode. We did have one other listener complaint, and I do need to go ahead and say what it was. It was from the one and only Derek Halpert.
00:06:39
Speaker
Oh, yes, I saw that. So Derek, he called me to voice these complaints. And I believe his quote was, you made me sound like a fucking pud. That does sound. I only saw the text messages he shared on our group thread, but that sounds like you. That sounds like his voice. All right.
00:07:02
Speaker
If anyone thinks I don't think I've ever said PUD, now I can't stop saying it. Thank you, Derek. But yeah, so Derek says that I made him sound like a PUD and he wanted everybody to know he has not been watching WWE start to finish every week. He has just been watching the YouTube clips. But that being said, he said that the WWE shirt is still under the AEW shirt, ready to go.
00:07:31
Speaker
you know, when he does get there. Well, you know, then that's that's a good transition point because one interesting thing is I have not watched any full WWE shows in years dot dot dot until last weekend where I was at my brother's house in Chicago. We had some other plans.
00:07:49
Speaker
Couple things changed around and we ended up basically just hanging out at his house for the entire weekend with his kids. They had a bunch of stuff got, you know, bad weather stuff that canceled. We watched just a shit ton of peacock and I watched a lot of SummerSlam. I watched the hell on the cell. I feel like I'm I am actually not ready to say that I have a WWE shirt underneath it. I think I even more entrenched me with like
00:08:16
Speaker
Yeah, there's some decent stuff, but I feel like I watched every significant WWE thing of the last year in a single day. And I feel good not having said that over a year. Plus, I think we're we should get into what what what just happened in real time when we're getting into which I think in my mind,
00:08:36
Speaker
I think I had been drifting a little bit from AEW. I hadn't actually been. It's kind of like I'm not cheating on AEW, but my eye has begun to wander a little bit. You know, it's kind of like, oh, yeah, I'll take out the garbage later. Like it's gotten a little too domestic. My relationship with AEW.
00:08:53
Speaker
But tonight, even secret texting other wrestling promotions in the bathroom. Well, an Appalachian even kind of openly where it's like AEW is like, well, he's never going to leave me for Appalachian. And it's like, oh, yeah, of course not, honey. And stuff like that. But I do got to say we are recording actually while we're watching in real time, the end of this week's dynamite is still on. We're in the six man tag match right now.
00:09:18
Speaker
But we the world title match in this week's dynamite was basically in my metaphor, the equivalent of my wife, just me coming home from work and my wife is just wearing like a trench coat. She just opens it up and she's wearing like sexy lingerie and like fishnets. And I'm like, oh, baby, I've forgotten, you know, I've forgotten what why we shacked up in the first place. And then you finished in three minutes. Exactly. I.
00:09:46
Speaker
For those of you now who know how long that punk Moxley match was, that's about how how long Mrs. Fax gets me before I'm out of breath and just ready to explode. So we were concerned in the lead up to this match. For a lot of reasons, right? You and I were we were texting, you know, also with with Derek, with Chris, you know, it was suspicious. The show opens up. You and I both talked about we assumed the sixth man was the opener.
00:10:16
Speaker
But they open up with Jericho, Daniel Garcia and Brian Danielson cutting promos and suspiciously they're not even talking about what is. I mean, I'm not wrong when I say this was probably literally the biggest match in the history of dynamite to this point, right? Is it? It's it's it's up there with the only thing I can think of is the winter.
00:10:45
Speaker
You mean just as far as like pure star power big money match happening on live TV. But I think this one has it was it had the star power. It may not have had the build that the winter is coming Kenny Omega match
Speculations on CM Punk's Storyline
00:10:59
Speaker
or the hangman Danielson that you mentioned.
00:11:02
Speaker
But it was also to unify the interim belts, which is not something they've done. It was something where either way we were going to have a new world. It was literally the main event of the quarterly PPV until like two thirds of the way through Dynamite last week. And all of a sudden they're like the higher WrestleMania like, yes, orderly pay per view. Like this is kind of the pay per view. This is what we all wait for all year.
00:11:30
Speaker
I mean, they had Christian in the title match last year. This is this is nothing to sneeze at. That's that's a joke. Obviously, we all thought. And I think Tony until a month before thought it was going to be the hangman, you know, finally taking the title off Kenny, which which happened a pay-per-view later. But yeah, like I think it's huge and they're not even like talking about it. And then like 35 minutes into the show, they casually just throw out, oh, well, Osprey's in our main event tonight. And it's like.
00:11:58
Speaker
Wait, did Will Ospreay replace Moxley? And the match is like, what's going on? And then they just throw out, oh yeah, the title match is up next. It reeked of fuckery, right? It seemed like we were gonna get some kind of like Russo era bullshit where there wasn't even gonna be a match. That's honestly what I was thinking leading into this.
00:12:20
Speaker
This I know so in our text thread You and I seem to very much enjoy what happened. I saw that Derek said he absolutely hated this and yes, I mean I was fucking surprised because I
00:12:36
Speaker
I liked Moxley enough. I've always been fond of Moxley, but the past few months, Jon Moxley has actively become my guy in this company. Yeah, and for the listeners, in case it doesn't come out, I hope he comes out how much we love this man. We poke fun at him, but I mentioned a couple of weeks ago where I'm like, no, no, no, I legitimately am worried
00:13:02
Speaker
about his mental health because I love the man and that he's suffering for his art and I am loving everything he's doing. And I mentioned in that text thread, even I surprised myself
00:13:17
Speaker
when they had the intros and this match was actually starting how much I wanted Moxley to win and how much more I like Moxley than Punk. And I don't think it's just because of the promo Punk cut last week. I just think it's Mox is so connected with our demographic of wrestling fan that this is like, it's almost like we are the world champions now.
00:13:38
Speaker
Wait, yes. Yes. I mean, we've been getting some pretty decent GCW matches from him more regularly. He bled in that barn for me. By the way, even the GCW matches that there was a 0% chance he was losing.
00:13:55
Speaker
Right. Those matches are really good. Like the Tony Deppin match. There was no chance Tony Deppin was winning the GCW title from Jon Moxley. But that match was a fucking banger. Every single GCW title match has been great. He is really trying. Like, I feel like he has hit this part of his career where he is just, yeah, bangers are what he has in him. This isn't something I ever
00:14:23
Speaker
related to Jon Moxley like this is like a Kenny Omega thing where it's just like in his sleep he's gonna put on a good match but Moxley's kind of hitting this this his stride it honestly makes you feel like if we went back and watch the the post-show promo at at all in with Cody doing the we're all professional wrestling I feel like
00:14:45
Speaker
Jon Moxley just shits on that. He's like, Cody, you thought you were professional wrestling back then? Fuck you, buddy. I'll show you what professional wrestling in 2022 is. I'm going to bleed with Mance Warner on a Friday night on a show that gets half a million viewers.
00:15:03
Speaker
Yeah, and just because I think we're gonna have to unpack a little bit of this, I just need to get my shit in here and say, as of now, we're watching the show on mute, maybe they've said something, maybe something's on Twitter you and I haven't seen yet, but there needs to be presumably a new main event for All Out. Somebody's gotta fight Moxie for this title. I'm thinking it could be Beastman.
00:15:26
Speaker
I don't know how he's going to do West Virginia war games and then also fight Moxley in Chicago. But I mean, he's a primordial beast man. I think he can figure something out. The problem is.
00:15:39
Speaker
Tony Khan doesn't listen to the fans. He claims to listen to us. I mean, obviously he gave us this match where Jon Moxley comes out and beats fucking CM Punk in a midcard match. In like three minutes, clean as a sheet. And can we just cover, by the way, because I think you and I are on this page, but let's just talk through it in real time.
00:16:04
Speaker
That there's no way that was a legit injury spot with punk, right? I mean, that was pretty seen pretty clearly. The scripted way that match was going to go, that he literally hit a kick and his own off it, like, and then that hurt his foot. Like that just seemed like a way for punk to save a little bit of face, but that felt like that was the scripted finish. And there, there was no fuckery around a legit injury.
00:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, I know. I didn't think anything about that. Like, you know, we didn't get the. We didn't get them throwing up the X or anything like he even worked the foot after he hurt them, because, yeah, basically, bell rings, see him, punk kicks, Jon Moxley in the head immediately injures his foot. Moxley runs around him for a second, puts him in a couple of holds.
00:16:51
Speaker
And just beats the shit out of him. Beats the shit out of him. Because it was only like a 3-4 minute match but it was just Moxley absolutely stomping him. It was a fucking squash match on Dynamite against their top star. By the way, you know what, I'm just realizing this now.
00:17:10
Speaker
I think GCW or AEW. This has got to be the first title match Moxley hasn't bled in in a very long time. He doesn't have time to bleed. He didn't have Moxley didn't have time to bleed. That's like a James Bond movie. No time to bleed.
00:17:42
Speaker
Well, so let's talk about that. Right. Because so it was interesting, you know, because I was traveling. So I didn't see the punk promo last week in real time. I got to my hotel. I was on a work trip. I got to my hotel and I watched the second half of dynamite. So thankfully I got the Kenny Omega stuff live. And we should probably talk about that in a minute. But I missed the punk promo.
00:17:54
Speaker
John Mikesley.
00:18:06
Speaker
All I heard is that, hey, this match got bumped up to next week. But then I did watch the promo the next day or two days later. And then I obviously read on the dirt sheets how, hey, his comments against Paige were kind of a shoot. There's a lot of backstage animosity. It's a little unclear. Some people are in the this is all a work camp, although I don't understand what the upside for AEW is, making it seem like everybody hates CM Punk backstage. It seems like a pretty bizarre work.
00:18:38
Speaker
But after this, it does kind of make you wonder what were things kind of falling apart backstage.
Jared Leto and Wrestling Merchandise
00:18:44
Speaker
And then after the Adam Page shoot comment that really buries page and there's nothing page can do about it. Did Tony Conch go fuck it? Now you're getting squashed on dynamite.
00:18:57
Speaker
You know, originally you were getting the the main pay-per-view shot and maybe you're going over maybe Mox was like, hey, now you're just getting squashed and you're going to learn not to fucking run your mouth. I don't know. I don't see a world where that's the case. He's too fucking popular, especially going into a pay-per-view in Chicago to not have him. And I mean, who knows what's going to do next week? But what do you do? Do you think do you think they're just going to run back Moxley Punk? And this is kind of like.
00:19:26
Speaker
to make punk seem like an underdog because that would be weird after because he's clearly the heel in this feud. I think even in Chicago, right? Like I, I don't know, man, you and I have been to a lot of wrestling shows in Chicago. What's the promo going to be like? He's going to be like, you want a title shot? You hurt your toes kicking me in the head and I beat you because of it. Like, yeah.
00:19:49
Speaker
I don't, unless like, does this go into a CM Punk MJF thing, not for a title? I went 38 minutes in a Punjabi prison match with Starboy last week. You couldn't last three minutes with me on primetime television with Sensors Boy. I don't know why my mocks all of a sudden turns into like dicks later. I went 37 minutes with Starboy Charlie in the Punjabi prison in a match in Pukepsy that nobody saw.
00:20:17
Speaker
Buck buckets of blood buckets. You broke your foot on TV. Yeah, he's John Moxley's just slowly becoming Harley race. I think that that's what both of us were doing. We were making our Moxley and pretty soon it's just going to turn into a guy with a trick like in the coming day, in the coming days, I will defeat you.
00:20:39
Speaker
Well, that's where on our old podcast, the best there ever was, we used to notice that one of the things is when you do Vince, if you do Vince for long enough, particularly that you have a group of people that everyone's doing Vince, eventually it turns into Mario from the Super Mario Brothers. And it's weird because you think Vince McMahon and Mario not remotely the same, but somehow you do Vince long enough. That's where you go. So I think Mox is that with a sling blade.
00:21:09
Speaker
I think I, I think I, I think I cut my face off there. Yeah. That's my knife. Starboy gonna fight now. Now, see, now anytime I hear Super Mario now, I know you're, you're a movie guy with me. Um, my, I no longer think Super Mario. I think Jared Leto and House of Gucci. So it just immediately becomes like, oh, stone the cold. Oh, you're a fired.
00:21:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to they're going to get a lot of pushback with Chris Pratt is doing the voice of Mario in a giant movie where it's like, no, you got to get Jared Leto Leto to do this. He had an audition and he should have won an Oscar for that audition. I don't even like Jared Leto. And I thought that was a great performance. I think and it was a very cartoonish performance. Right. I mean, you do it in a different movie than everybody else in that thing.
00:22:01
Speaker
But like, if you want to do it, make it a crossover, have Lady Gaga play the princess, you know, you could you could kind of you could kind of work it have De Niro or sorry, Pacino could play Bowser, King Koopa.
00:22:19
Speaker
I can't even do a Pacino until, but I, yeah, we've, if we need an improv like voice actor on here to just, and this is what it would be like if Al Pacino were Koopa. Well, and you know what? That would be, I'd really respect the craft because of the degree of difficulty. Like they talk about things like, Ooh, Lord of the Rings, they made all three movies at the same time. Even back in the seventies, they made the first two Superman at the same time. Ooh, like, yeah.
00:22:43
Speaker
You made three movies with everyone playing the same character. You took shortcuts. You know what's harder? Use the exact same cast and director and screenwriter. Make a House of Gucci and then a Super Mario Brothers animated movie. What's the third? What's the third in the Jared Leto Does the Mario voice in three movies? And then I think it's a Ron Jeremy biopic.
00:23:14
Speaker
He's playing three different characters but doing the exact same voice.
00:23:31
Speaker
All right. And he seemed he seemed fine other than they had. I found out afterwards they had to make sure that no one that went to the school ended up in the limousine with him. And he was really, really trying is what I heard, allegedly.
00:23:52
Speaker
allegedly I mean that that sounds accurate right I mean that sounds like a pretty good all of the time life situation is don't let anyone not even like don't let loved ones don't let anyone you've ever met into a limo with Ron Jeremy
00:24:10
Speaker
No joke, like maybe six years later after that time in college, I was in Los Angeles, my wife and I were going to see the cure at the Hollywood Bowl. As we were leaving, you know, thousands of people filing out, a man lunged at me through the bushes. I felt like I'm about to be attacked by a hobo. And the man who lunged at me from the bushes, one Ron Jeremy.
00:24:38
Speaker
Did Ronald recognize you? I mean. He's like, we did that interview back at WIDB six years ago. And I remember everything. No, he didn't seem like his memory was good. Like it didn't seem like. Yeah, it didn't come from a place. Because, yeah, this I was just there. I happened to be the person on the other side of the lunch. I'm not going to claim it. Maybe you interviewed. I don't know what Ron Jeremy's music interests are, but I can't see Ron Jeremy.
00:25:08
Speaker
being like, it's Friday night. I think I'm going to go see the cure. I did that just that math doesn't really check out to me. Well, they were both famous around the same time. And I mean, that kind of adds up. But like, you're right. He just happened to be in that bush in Hollywood at that time. And yeah. And you know, like they would be one of those like, you know, strange bedfellows thing where they're like, you guys
00:25:36
Speaker
sing about how sad you are. And I just bukkake all over young women. Who are sad? And I'm sad. They're sad. It's the saddest industry that's ever existed.
00:25:55
Speaker
with your songs would be perfect for my movies if we were going for a different tone. Well, and I could see that that in the movie, right, we have Jared Leto as Ron Jeremy, he's blowing a load on a young lady. And then just boys don't cry, starts playing on the soundtrack and it just slowly inches up on his just unmoving emotionless face.
00:26:19
Speaker
because he's a boy and he's paid to blow loads. And there's many people that would consider that a dream job, although no one would actually want it in real life. I guess that's the weird thing with being a male porn star, right? Is that it's kind of like, everyone's like, oh man, that's the life. You have sex for a living. Yet no one would actually want to do it.
00:26:40
Speaker
Yeah. And you know what? Jared Leto has no shame. He's willing to put on 150 pounds to play this role. Oh, yeah. God, yeah. This is going to be a great trilogy of movies. It started with House of Gucci, loved it. Super Mario is going to be great, which he's ready. He's ready. And it all leads up to this.
00:27:02
Speaker
Well, and it's it's it's it's it's the casting of Chris Pratt publicly. It's a pro wrestling move, right? You swerve the audience that way when you get Jared Leto in there and he crushes the role. It's just that much sweeter. Hmm. And then somebody. Yeah, back to back to John Moxley and see him. So so so do you. So you're saying you don't think
00:27:28
Speaker
Because what the fuck like because if if if there's no legit injury and this isn't a reaction to something I'm not understanding Having punk lose in three minutes Because unless you're trying to set him up is the I guess the like Darby Allen You're trying to say hey CM Punk is now Darby Allen trying to win the title back at all out But I don't see that playing right because nobody wants to root against Moxley
00:27:58
Speaker
If, I don't know, like. Unless he's against Nick Gage. Yeah. Yeah. You cover that pretty well. Yeah. I mean, we, we, we, we, we, we discussed, we discussed. We'll get deeper into that when we. I don't know. Is, is punk is big. He has to still be the biggest star, even with Kenny Omega back with Danielson back like.
00:28:21
Speaker
I but but now it looks like Danielson's going against Jericho at the pay-per-view. Right. Presumably Kenny, you know, let's just say like it's presumably going to be Kenny in the box against the Dark Order. Right. Is what we all think the six man final is going to be. So it's like a lot of these guys are busy now. Hangman, as I've been saying, could play Miss Elizabeth in that that six man match. That seems like kind of a little bit of a waste of the guy that was literally your world champion.
00:28:50
Speaker
on pay-per-views earlier this year. But maybe that's it. Maybe. But then again, maybe, and I'm just seeing, I see Omega and the Bucks coming out at the end of Dynamite here looking and making some pointing. So I don't know, maybe the Dark Order is not a shoo-in to be who they go against in the finals. But I feel pretty good Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks are gonna be in that match. It's like who else could Moxley be going against? It kind of feels like
00:29:20
Speaker
number one Hangman page, number two CM Punk, end of list. I mean, even Powerhouse Hobbs has a match at all at this point. And there's so many guys in the back like Andrade is like, I don't have anything going on. And it's like you did the flare match. You're good for the year.
00:29:41
Speaker
So I didn't see a second of this match. It was over my shoulder and I've been looking at you. Yeah, I have it over my shoulder. I wasn't really following it. It looked pretty good. Surprising, you know, big shock. Six really good workers looked like they were having a really good match. I mean, they gave it like 20 minutes.
00:30:03
Speaker
But I didn't. Okay, so right now we're looking at Osprey and Kenny Omega yelling at each other, which for the last year, they have been feuding on the internet. So this easily could be the finish of this where you could have a Kenny Omega who's not quite ready to do a full hour match with Will Osprey, but put him in a six man, let everybody else do a lot of work and let him get some good shit in.
00:30:30
Speaker
One, this could be also where you start getting into the other side of the forbidden door. Like you were just talking about, because now it's like, we talk about these things like getting will Osprey here and like the, how the forbidden door means we have a lot of interesting guys on dynamite. But there's a lot of really good guys in the dynamite, or sorry, the AEW roster that aren't getting regular spots. So like, could you, could that be setting up something in new Japan for Kenny and Osprey, you know,
00:30:59
Speaker
I don't know if it can wait till the Tokyo Dome, but maybe it does or something like where maybe you're just like, you know, and Tony these days is like, you know what, Kenny, take a month, do some New Japan, wrestle one of those big matches. It's OK. We have enough star power. You know, doesn't seem crazy. Speaking of Kenny, what did you think of last week?
00:31:23
Speaker
I mean it could have been like him looking rusty as part of the story or it could have been him looking because he's been gone so long. I think it was like I was a little surprised that anyone thought it wasn't part of the story because like I was watching it again with with my brother.
00:31:42
Speaker
and it was like comically overdone and the fact that like he didn't do anything dangerous because that's the thing is like we know if guys play a little loose like they could hurt people but like he kind of accidentally landed
00:31:58
Speaker
perfectly the wrong way, you know, like doing the you can't escape move and all that. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, that's the perfect example. And that's like right early in the match. And it's, you know, Kenny Omega is is pretty much the Jared Leto of wrestling in terms of he is just a great actor of all. Actually, we started this by saying Leto is not a great actor. Generally, I was like, I don't like him, but I loved Gucci.
00:32:24
Speaker
He has a great agent, though. He has a wonderful, terrific agent that gets him premium roles. And I guess maybe that's Don Callis for Kenny. But what I'm saying is, yeah, for me, I think that was all storyline. I think wearing the shirt was part of the storyline. Like JR was even like kind of fat shaming him a little bit, which is weird, but also something that you're obviously only going to do if you know that he's in normal Kenny Omega shape underneath that shirt.
00:32:51
Speaker
That was, yeah, it was bizarre to see Kenny Omega as a shirt on wrestler, and then you're hearing JR say like, ah, somebody's had one too many taquitos from the 7-Eleven rollers. And I mean, we all know that the three for $5 deal at that 7-Eleven for the taquitos is a steal, but when you're a professional wrestler and not an elderly announcer, you just can't have it every day, Kenny.
00:33:19
Speaker
By the way, and this is a little bit of a non sequitur, you notice it seems like the last two weeks now we're back to Jim Ross doing all two hours of dynamite after many weeks where he was only doing the second half. Is that a reaction to the ratings where they're like, maybe just people flipping through the channels, they hear Jim Ross's voice, they're more likely to stop.
00:33:40
Speaker
That has to be a thought, right? I mean, he's a huge, like he's the voice of the attitude area. He's the voice of our childhood. And I think that all the hard cores are all kind of like co-signed on him fading into the background. And like, we're like, we're totally cool with Taz and Excalibur and Dhoni. Like we're fully on board with this, but like, we're the ones already watching.
00:34:06
Speaker
Yeah, and all those, the casuals flipping through, they didn't live through the New Japan years. And that was honestly, I think we should go back and watch some of the Jim Ross highlights of him calling New Japan matches, because there were some beauties in there. Yeah.
00:34:27
Speaker
and having to say those people's names, him having to, I don't know, like, honestly, when I was at the Cow Palace and watched Jay White knock him backwards out of his chair and him be very, very mad, that was great.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yeah, and actually, now that you think about it, JR's not only doing two hours dynamic, he's also doing rampage, because I remember that that was something we've gotten recently is another kind of modern JR port de force performance is wrestling with pronouns when Sonny Kiss is involved in a match.
00:34:59
Speaker
Which is always, it's right up there with you have Japanese wrestlers with similar names. And then anyone that is not a totally traditional binary gendered person. Those are the two things where JR really shows his age. Oh, it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I get it. It's hard. It's hard for he's trying. He's trying. He usually corrects himself, right?
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, again, the man's literally a grandpa and his wife died years ago, you know, and he's got Bell's palsy for God's sakes. Like I do kind of wonder why does he even want to be on television anymore? Like he's got the barbecue sauce. He's done some one man shows like.
00:35:46
Speaker
Does he? I don't think he needs the money, right? He has to enjoy that. Poppy gets every time they play the marching band song and the crowd wants to see him like that has to feel good. You want got to want that every week. But I kind of feel like.
00:36:01
Speaker
I get that, but when kind of in his last days with WWE, where he was only getting like the one match per pay-per-view and that was it, and he would get the full intro, like that's you're getting a pretty big pop, right? You're getting like the 15, 16,000 person pay-per-view pop. I mean, that's a pretty good pop. If you really want to book JR a job that is he's out of his league on, if he had problems with Sonny Kiss,
00:36:30
Speaker
Let's get him the full show of Effie's Big Gay Brunch. Watching J.R. in a handicap match against pronouns is the main event. I'm just imagining it. It's Effie's Big Gay Brunch. The very beginning of the show, the first thing on the show is J.R. with the marching band music.
00:36:55
Speaker
but it's a bunch of drag queens in cheerleader outfits just like doing cartwheels and just Jim Ross coming out just like horrified just having like just looking kind of visibly just
00:37:09
Speaker
like a confused old man who doesn't know what's happening. The only thing kind he could say is the thing that when a person of that age doesn't like something or understand, they just say, well, that was different. Exactly. That is the most PC way to say everything going through his mind. That's funny. It would be JR doing GCW, let alone an Effie show.
00:37:39
Speaker
It would be very similar to when we had my mom try sushi. They're probably similar ages. Yeah, pronouns are hard like chopsticks, man. You know, you got to once you learn them, though, you get it, you get the hang of it and you you impress people.
00:38:04
Speaker
And exactly. And like, like pronoun, you know, old people, pronouns, or an old person that's ever had it going to a Japanese restaurant, they're going to get it wrong because they're going to go with what they used to. And they're going to try to order General's house chicken at the Japanese restaurant. And they're not going to understand why other people are finding it offensive that they're even trying to get that.
00:38:28
Speaker
Are you sure you can do this? That seems like a lot of wasabi. I can, I can, I can do this. This is, I've, I've done this before. Oh my God, he's humping his face. Wait, he's humping their face.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah. Cause you know, he would just go back to attitude era, but it would be the pronouns that would throw him off. Cause he'd be like, okay, I've seen a lot of genitals and other people's faces. That's been a big part of wrestling for a long time. But, but now the pronouns are different and it confuses him and probably scares him. Fair, fair. Although him doing death match war games would also be pretty cool.
00:39:10
Speaker
My god, the humanity! What's a gusset plate? Why is that here? Gintzicutter, that doesn't seem like a very- OH MY GOD! You can curse here, Jim. Okay, thank you. What the fuck's a Jimmy Lloyd?
00:39:35
Speaker
And just, sorry, my brain's going a little all over the place. We were talking about Kenny and yeah, something happened to me this week with Kenny Omega. You know, Kenny was on Dynamite last week. We're all very excited to have the cleaner back. Honestly, there was a piece of my heart that was hard to fill without him there. And you know, it's there. My kid's coming soon.
00:40:00
Speaker
And I thought, well, I have not bought this baby a wrestling toy. Like, I know there's like very few wrestling toys. It's OK to just hand to a baby. Right. But I thought my favorite wrestling toy growing up has been canceled, which was a whole coke and wrestling buddy. But I was like, but I can get him one that hasn't been. I'm going to get him this Kenny Omega wrestling buddy.
00:40:22
Speaker
So I get on Amazon. I order it two days later, it arrives. I'm like, I'm like a kid on Christmas ready to unbox this thing. It's in this, this, uh, they come sealed in a cardboard box, not just the Amazon box, but like a wrestling buddies box open, right? Cause you could see them on the shelf, but I guess these days they don't, they don't really sell them off a shelf, right? Everyone just buys them online.
00:40:47
Speaker
Yeah. So it comes in a box that says wrestling buddies Kenny Omega. I'm so excited. I'm lighting up. My man is back. Open this box, pull it out. And who's there to fuck me one last time? Cody Rhodes. Yeah, that's a now did Cody have like the purple side of his body in this right? Was it a modern 2022 version?
00:41:11
Speaker
He actually, it looked like he took a purple Sharpie and did that. And then on the box, it was signed to Garrett, fuck you, Cody Rhodes. And then Rhodes was underlined twice. Yeah, I mean, that's tough, I guess.
00:41:29
Speaker
That's kind of a karma thing, right? Because you you live in Tennessee and as part of your taxes, you can get a free cane wrestle buddy and you declined that to order the Kenny Omega one. So maybe maybe Mr. Jacobs had something to do with that. So the Kenny wrestle buddy did eventually come and has 12 catch phrases. What would Cain's 12 catch phrases be? I
00:41:56
Speaker
They'd have a lot to do with January 6th. That's... Like, well, one is a gong and you can hear the flames. And then two, you hear like... And then three, it's like, it was all a hoax. You're like, what was a hoax? What was a hoax, sir? Four is like him just doing like, rest in peace. And then five is, let's go, Brandon. The next one is, teachers are indoctrinating our children.
00:42:26
Speaker
And then there's one where like if you just in the booth recording and didn't realize it was still going And it's just like no, honey. I mean come on. I give you a hundred. I'm the mayor. I'm the mayor I can't get in trouble. Just give me is that still recording. All I want is a hand job, right? Nothing mouth. Nothing mouth Just need a little release. Oh, I love this could be a massage booth. Oh
00:42:53
Speaker
This could be a massage booth. Basically, he's gonna, I would like that version of him that's just saying the things Fred Willard was saying in that nudie booth when he got arrested. That's right. I don't know if any, do wrestling fans know Fred Willard? I think, I think, I think so. I think people- He's a ghoul in a way. You'll be like him, okay.
00:43:16
Speaker
Yeah. People, people know how Google works. They can figure it out if they really care. I mean, he's only recently departed too. So I think he, I bet a lot of people are Googling it and they're going, Oh yeah. Everybody loves Raymond. He's been on I think probably every sitcom known to man between 1971 and like four years ago or whatever.
00:43:39
Speaker
Either way, Fred Willard famously arrested in his older years in a nudie booth. Leave the guy alone. Leave him alone. Just like JR. But Kane's not at that range yet. Fuck that guy. He's not a endearing old man.
00:44:00
Speaker
By the way, I do think we should update the listeners because Chris isn't here and we've obviously talked about he's been struggling with COVID the last couple of weeks. So he is not on a respirator or anything like that, right? Nothing to be worried about.
00:44:12
Speaker
is still amazingly symptomatic. And he actually was taking his entire family ice skating in Rockefeller Center with a bunch of immunocompromised orphans. And that's why he couldn't join us today.
00:44:30
Speaker
Again, he's fine, but incredibly symptomatic and still spreading, still actively spreading the contagion. I get all of his medical reports go to my email. We share an email address from the old podcast days.
00:44:45
Speaker
It does bother me that he is following around some famous New York figures, some very beloved people. I saw that yesterday he ran into David Letterman on the street and had a 15 and a half minute conversation with him, which I believe you have to be around somebody about 15 minutes for the spread to take place. Yeah, I imagine he had an alert on his phone and then with 15 minutes he goes, all right, I'm sorry, bye.
00:45:12
Speaker
Like he ended the conversation when he had spread enough of his hot, hot breath. He only left because he thought he saw Regis crossing the street and then until he realized that Regis has been gone for years. That that that would be, you know, when we say Conrad is on like the beginning of something even bigger and like we're like, well, Ric Flair can't have another match. Nobody would buy tickets again.
00:45:40
Speaker
But it's just him and Chris just in a hot room together in the middle of the summer, seeing how long Flair can survive. Get well soon, Chris. But you seem to be doing well with it. He's doing great. Just if you see him on the street, stay away.
00:46:05
Speaker
Yeah, get away from him and avoid Six Flags, avoid big movies coming out, avoid any Grateful Dead event in the New York State area. That's a guarantee. I would probably stay away from anywhere that does soft serve ice cream. He likes to just kind of take it right from the machine directly into his mouth.
00:46:29
Speaker
Um, so I would just stay doing the suicides and a, at a Taco Bell, like a little taste to all the flavors. That's, that's for sure. That's for sure. Um, the United nations, probably another place you'd want to stay away from Chris. Chris, uh, he doesn't work there, but he just likes listening to wrestling podcasts out on the steps of, of, uh, the United nations.
00:46:52
Speaker
He is always outside of the today show with a sign. I know that's very crowded, especially, I mean, he is right in the middle, like he doesn't like the front, he doesn't like the back, he likes the middle, especially if like a Harry Styles or an Adele, somebody that's gonna draw a big crowd.
00:47:11
Speaker
And generally, too, like when they do things, the make a wish events for the kids, they're actively fighting cancer that somehow Chris just wanders in backstage like he's not even doing it purposefully. There's no malice. He just kind of wanders in and just, oh, there's John Cena and 18 kids with aggressive stage four cancers.
00:47:35
Speaker
Are you at all worried that when this comes out tomorrow, that you're going to receive a call from Chris and say, you made me sound like a fucking putt on that show? I hope so. I truly, I truly, that's actually was the purpose of this. Me and Garrett have a game plan going on. We're like, let's alienate our very good friends and podcast co-hosts as much as possible.
00:48:01
Speaker
That's going to be we're going to have rotating hosts here. And it's just going to be you should see what we're going to like, you know, Garrett's already alluded to his wife is like 13 months pregnant. And yeah, he's inevitably going to miss a show. And we're just going to absolutely lay into you, buddy, when you're not here. You you come for me. I dare you. I dare you to come for me. This is take me to the putt zone.
00:48:27
Speaker
Well, you know, you you edit the podcast, so you kind of have the pencil. Right. That's true. That's true. And you've said a lot of things that I can really edit and turn around like the podcast. It's like, hey, everybody, welcome to a predetermined program. And then you just hear you from this episode say, let's go, Brandon.
00:48:48
Speaker
Yeah, I was wondering why you had me read a transcript of the entire 8chan website. I didn't understand why we were doing that earlier before we started recording. Now I'm getting it.
00:49:03
Speaker
It's so that I can make an AI of you eventually. This is all I need. You mentioned my wife is 13 months pregnant. So last night we did a very responsible thing and went to see my chemical romance. Sure as one does. Since the beginning of our relationship,
00:49:23
Speaker
We've talked about going to see this band. It finally happened. Originally, we're gonna go to Chicago. It was like a week after the due date, but this is a couple weeks before. So it's like, let's do this. And a great time was had by all. And while we were standing outside, who passes me on the sidewalk? But Darby Allen. Hmm, Darby Allen. And so now you're in Nashville.
00:49:49
Speaker
Darby lives in Washington, right? Pretty famous. Seattle, yeah. State. AEW was nowhere near Nashville. Presumably, you would have known if he was on an Indy card. Is he just following around my cam?
Unexpected Encounters and Event Promotions
00:50:07
Speaker
I think he is. He had a backstage pass around his neck and I can't believe I didn't say anything to him. We were standing outside the venue and I saw him approaching like he was very, very close and I did a really hard double take because you don't expect to see Darby Allen out in the world in a place that he doesn't live.
00:50:29
Speaker
Well, and I got to imagine it's not like, like if you saw just to say someone else who could plausibly start bleeding at a concert when if you ran into them, uh, John Moxley, like if you pumped into Moxley, he's like six, three jacked. Like there's no remotely mistaking him for someone else. Whereas Darby is more like normal person size. Like was that a factor where you just like, Oh, the, the,
00:50:53
Speaker
Because I've had that with celebrities before where I'm like, oh, there's that guy I know. And it takes me a second to be like, oh, I know them from television. They're not like just a buddy of mine. So I was actually I mean, he was like one. I think he was taller than I expected him to be. Like I've seen him live, but I'd never been, you know, like four feet from him to I'm like, wow, you are you're actually bigger, beefier and more handsome than on TV.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, he seems like he'd be more handsome without the face. I assume he wasn't wearing the face paint.
00:51:26
Speaker
Yeah, it wasn't my chemical romance show. Well, that's what I said, I assume, right? If it was like if you were like we're at, you know, the Eagles reunion show, I'd be really confident he was going to no face paint. But he he was there with a guy that could have looked like a wrestling podcaster. He looked like any of us. Like if you told me, like, hey, Garrett, he's with you right now. I'd be like, oh, that is me.
00:51:51
Speaker
But Derek asked, you guys were joking around asking if Sting was with him. I wish I had not said anything to Darby and approached that man and been like, Sting?
00:52:04
Speaker
We do have to though, I think like, I know this isn't great. I feel like we had some good jokes. I just got to go find them and just read them for the listeners on what we said. So I think was it you or Chris that said Sting was out in the car reading a book waiting to pick Darby up? That was Chris. I think that was probably the best one.
00:52:32
Speaker
Okay, we text too much. I can't find anything. It's compelling of podcasting as this is to find texts we sent to each other. That was the original name of the podcast we rebooted. We're like, let's not make it predetermined. Let's call it us stumbling over trying to remember jokes we made over text in the last week. Next week, we're going to read 10-year-old Rob Delaney tweets and see if they hold up.
00:53:00
Speaker
Sure. Was he tweeting about Beastman a lot 10 years ago? That's my only... A Rob Delaney tweet 10 years ago would have been like, at Walmart, watching Beastman, my pants are moist. That would have been it. That does sound quite accurate.
00:53:24
Speaker
So all right. So we've talked a lot about the AEW stuff. There's been a lot of interesting. So Kenny, I don't know. We'll find out how much I think it's all the work. I think that I think his his first big singles match is going to be incredible. I think he's all the way back. I'm really curious what they do with the world title match at all out. I'm really curious what they do with punk at all out, whether it's part of that or not. There's a lot of issues, but I think we really covered it. What else in the world of wrestling
00:53:54
Speaker
is big. I mean, I could get into all the WWE watched over the weekend, but like you, any of our listeners either already know those matches or are never ever going to watch them. So.
00:54:07
Speaker
Well, a big thing that I do wanna promote is this coming weekend in Boston is ICW pit fighter, Battle of the Tough Guys, which former pre-determined, I'd say if you were a predetermined host at one point, you're always a predetermined host. Hardway Heater is back, he's wrestling, he is fighting Hoodfoot in the first round of Battle of the Tough Guys for ICW on IW-TV this weekend.
00:54:36
Speaker
And everybody, if you don't have an IWTV subscription, it's more like seven, 10 bucks.
00:54:43
Speaker
Re-up that shit. Watch Hard Way Heater. Support that guy. Well, it's just the way, like, if, again, on Fight, you'd pay 10 bucks easily for that show, right? Like, if that was just on Fight and that was the only way to get it and it was $9.99, you wouldn't think about it. You would just order it, right? So why not just, you can watch some other shit. They don't know that. They don't know that you would have paid 10 for the one show. You can just pay for the library. You can just watch other shit. They'll never know.
00:55:12
Speaker
A bunch of old GCWs on there. Yeah. You know, there's there's good shit. No, but I'm really excited to get him on and to check him out. Yeah. Also, he is very interested in coming back on the show and talking his shit so we could actually get him on after at some point to talk about Battle of the Tough Guys and what else he has coming up in the world of deathmatch wrestling. And what kind of roles we think, you know, he'd like to see Jared Leto play.
00:55:41
Speaker
And if he saw Chris anywhere out and about in busy public places and bars, Chris was actually on the plane the whole ride. He was the stewardess. Yeah, he he he dropped the puck at a Bruins game alongside a bunch of 9-11 survivors that were in the game.
00:56:07
Speaker
Pretty soon, Jon Stewart is going to be out there making sure that Chris is behind bars. Yeah, he's going to be we're going to it's going to be like a Carmen San Diego game. We're going to be like this is where Chris was. It's a giant he Chris was visiting a giant statue gifted from the French to the Americans coughing all over new immigrants that just wanted to finally come to America.
00:56:37
Speaker
The land of the free. It's a little bit of geography. It's a little bit of science. This is a this is this honestly could be on Disney Plus. It could be. It could be. It could be. Well, because Disney Plus, I believe, and this is a shoot, I believe, actually has the they own and have the access to the archives of America's most wanted. So Chris could easily not the tag team, the show. So I could see
00:57:05
Speaker
I could see Chris making that. Or it could be, again, more of a Carmen San Diego and kind of a joyous, wondrous ride. Oh, man. Before we get out of here, I do want to, you know, promote Beastman at least one more time. You've got the JCW show coming up. And that card is really shaping up to be like kind of a banger show. Well, I don't know that we've talked about this on the pod. So that was you brought it by WTV. So that day,
00:57:35
Speaker
In the same building in Jersey, it's about 25-30 minutes from where the faxi pad where I where I hold. So we'll have probably a couple of brewskis at my place before heading over. They're doing two shows. So the early show is a GCW show, but it's a settlement series show.
00:57:54
Speaker
So they're not really bringing the A talent. Now, normally in Atlantic City and stuff like that, they do a JCW show first, which is basically it's the it's the heat, you know, the pregame show. It's the AAA version of GCW. And then you're going to see Gene Schnitzke do something before
00:58:14
Speaker
The Rock comes back. Exactly. Essa Rios is going to be featured prominently. But you might even, and usually in the JCW show, you'll see one GCW or a couple of GCW stalwarts that just weren't on the big show. So it's just like Jimmy Lloyd's not on the big show. Maybe he'll work the main event of JCW or something like that.
00:58:36
Speaker
But interestingly, for the settlement series, they're just doing the opposite, where they're like, we don't give a shit about the GCW show for the settlement series. It just has to technically be branded GCW, right? So what they're doing is they're basically making the minor league show GCW to be part of the settlement series, so it'll be on IW TV. So you can see that show with your $7 after you see Heater. Stick around to see the Beastman undercard.
00:59:03
Speaker
And then JCW is where they're putting the A-list talent. So essentially, JCW for one night only is the main event. It's the biggest show in Jersey.
00:59:16
Speaker
And they could legitimately headline that with Beastman versus Janela. Though now you've got Slade versus Mance Warner in a barbed wire match. You've got, I believe, Speedball versus Yoya. That's gonna be fun as hell. Who else was? Well, I don't know if they're done announcing stuff either. And is that actually, I'm just kind of trying to think of it. Is that, is it, a lot of times the JCW shows are free on YouTube.
00:59:44
Speaker
Is this one just streaming for free? Yeah, everybody's going to watch it. This is going to break ratings records. It's actually going to... Lauderdale heard us talking about going to the West Virginia show for free, just bring a chair and he was like, hold my beer. I'm booking Beastman against Janela and the whole world can watch it for free on YouTube.
01:00:10
Speaker
It's, and you know what? I hope Lauderdale doesn't see Appalachian wrestling because he's going to start having us bring our own chairs that the wrestlers break and put tables on. And then he has no overhead on that. You know, he just, he's breaking these jabronis chairs.
01:00:26
Speaker
I'm not going to lie, you know, at least for the shows in New York, I've obviously been to more GCW shows in New York than anywhere else, but New York and New Jersey, I think I'd prefer to bring my own chairs because they really have these tiny chairs that they really packed together to the point where I just started buying GA to a lot of shows, not to save money, but I'm just like, I just legitimately don't want to take the risk of being in the middle of a row with a bunch of other Husky wrestling podcasters.
01:00:58
Speaker
Uh, you really are. It's the who's who of Husky wrestling podcasters. It really is. I mean, it's, it's in Jersey mittens is going to be there. I know he's not a podcaster per se, not yet, but he's doing mittens will be predetermined. Oh yeah. I w what do you think? I say we vote them in. I mean, these other two pods aren't here right now to vote.
01:01:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we should get him on before Chris is back, right? Because I don't know if we want mittens to get COVID. It'd be too big of a hit to the indie wrestling community.
01:01:34
Speaker
But think about, oh my God, like the special that Netflix put out for Bob Saget and how beloved he was. IWTV would put on a similar thing for Mittens and the who's who of death match wrestling would be there. Like think about a eulogy performed by Slack. This could be like, I really loved Mittens. I just, I could just see a eulogy
01:02:05
Speaker
of Jimmy Lloyd just smoking and then it keeps looking like he's going to put his cigarette down and start talking. But then he just keeps just grabbing another one and lighting it off the last one. And then just at the very end, after about 11 minutes of that, just one tear, just one tear rolls down. He leaves without saying a word.
01:02:29
Speaker
And then Stephanie McMahon obviously watching live on IW TV sees that and that's what causes her to finally pay the money to get Jimmy Lloyd over to the to the red brand. Yeah. Also do the listeners know Mittens? Like I just assume I assume a lot of things where it's like we're all the same level of dorks.
01:02:51
Speaker
but where we pay attention to the people in the crowd enough to know the name? Here's a better question, right? So let's just go ahead on the premise that some do and some don't. Who did we bring up earlier? Hollywood? Fred Willard. Fred Willard, right? So Fred Willard, it's not hard to spell Fred Willard. You Google search Fred Willard. Two seconds later, there's a picture of Fred Willard, and you probably are gonna recognize it.
01:03:19
Speaker
Right. Even if you don't, aren't a big movie guy or a big TV guy, you're going to recognize him from something guy's been in a hundred different things. But Mittens, what listeners, if you don't know who Mittens is, we're not going to tell you. I want to know your, your SEO strategy behind even finding out who, like, I'm, you know, I'm going to just do it right now. I'm going to put in Mittens GCW and just see what happens that I'm interested in this search.
01:03:50
Speaker
Oh, you know what? His Twitter, his Twitter comes up, which is Mac McMuffins at NY in DCM punk kid. So yeah, he, his Twitter is the first thing that comes up for Mittens GCW. But when you go to images, I am not seeing a picture of Mittens. I'm sure there's one in there, but I don't.
01:04:15
Speaker
any GCW show, any ICW show, you're going to find him. And here's the thing. I like Mittens. I mean, I have had very good experiences with Mittens. Getting to watch Mittens CC and punk wrestle for the first time since he left was a highlight of all out last year. Like he was just he seen that level of joy. Like I think it could power some sort of ship.
01:04:40
Speaker
If you could bottle mittens energy in that moment, you know, that's, that's gold. Well, that's one more thing to watch this, this JCW show, um, on what I believe it's September 12th.
01:04:57
Speaker
one of those days, maybe the 11th. Trust me, we'll talk about it more times leading up to this. It's a piece of man. You know, you can watch it on YouTube for free. Tickets are still available if you are within driving distance. And if you're within driving distance, you can certainly meet Mittens. He'll be there. He'll be very visible. I'm very I haven't talked to him or anything, but I'm very confident he will be there. His front row. Did we? Yeah.
01:05:25
Speaker
No, because again, I don't know the venue and I don't know what the situation is going to be. Because somewhere in the New York New Jersey area, sometimes the first row is terrible. In Hammerstein, first row is great. In even the Atlantic City, in the bigger casinos, usually the seats are pretty solid. But on a venue that I haven't seen them work before,
01:05:47
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I'm usually just more I wanna do GA and kinda scope the space out because I've been burned a lot of times where I buy the front row tickets or the second row tickets and end up just standing the entire show anyway because you got two beast man's on both sides and exactly and they're both husking aggressively.
01:06:09
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You guys are gonna have so much fun Derek and Chris the those those boys if they if they ever come back They they're gonna have a good time at all out. Oh, I do need to bring this up Did you you listen to last week's show idea? Okay, so I did give Chris a lot of shit about not staying at the Red Roof Inn. I
01:06:31
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Mm hmm. Yeah, a lot. Like, I really honestly, I bullied him a little bit to try and get him to sleep at the Red Roof Inn. And I found out that our listeners from Canada, Lowell and Matt, have a room booked at the Red Roof Inn. So we're going to get a scoop from inside the building and hopefully we can get Chris in that room with him at some point. Yeah, I remember. Good luck, Lowell and Matt. But I remember Derek just describing the murder room.
01:07:00
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us kind of not fully believe we're like, oh, he's using hyperbole. He's exaggerating. Then we obviously had to see it. And it's like, nope, he gave a full completely right down the middle, accurate description of this room. It definitely looks like a murder took place here at some point fairly recently. And but then if you recall, I think the second or third night, we were like, yeah, let's get some let's get some
01:07:29
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Let's get some some hard seltzers. Let's get some claws and drink them in the murder room. That was a feature, not a bug. That's true. Yeah, man, that I'm I'm excited for everybody involved in that weekend. It's going to be good. I'll actually sounds like my baby will be coming a day or two after that now.
01:07:54
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That is interesting. That is interesting timing. This is the second time for All Out. I will be out of the country.
01:08:07
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to be determined if I will order it from Iceland, which is where I will be or not. If like if I have like a four hour period, I can watch the show. I will certainly order it. It's cheaper on fight TV in Europe. It's usually about 20 euro. I was going to say you could you could actually get it on fight. Yeah, that's honestly just for that alone would be worth worth doing it. Yeah, but you can access it when you get back home.
01:08:34
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So it won't just sit there with like, I guess I could probably use VPN or something, but, um, I, you know, I would like, but again, it's hard to say cause we're only going to be there for six days. It really depends. You know, typically my wife gets traveler sickness everywhere. So that usually buys me a window that she's just vomiting in the other room and I can watch some wrestling. Um, but I don't know, Iceland, uh,
01:08:56
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I don't know if they have the kind of food that's going to disagree. I mean, literally, she's gotten traveler sickness in Orlando. So from what I understand, food wise and Iceland hot dogs are very big. I know when my wife went a lot of hot dogs. Yeah, lamb. They're made with lamb on the hot dogs. Definitely going to get some of those. I don't know what she's going to eat. She's probably not going to touch any of it, but then she's going to eat something weird and get sick anyway. So.
01:09:23
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Well, while you're there, be sure to hit up the big Lebowski white Russian bar. That's on the list. That is absolutely on the list. And I'm I'm basically planning to and just trying to find some tremendously large Viking looking dudes and then just trying to explain pro wrestling and then try to actively recruit them to fight beast man. I think you're going to say to recruit them to be new new hosts of this show. Every week we add somebody else.
01:09:52
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Just so then when they're not on it, we can shit talk them. Right. Yeah, those fucking puds. God, I'm not I'm not going to get enough of that. But hey, you know what? We're close enough to the end on this. What do you say we wrap this thing up? Do it. Do it. You got any you got anything to promote? You got a book coming out. Do you have you? I have.
01:10:16
Speaker
I'm still working on my Bukaki album. It's not ready for public consumption yet. It's a coffee table book, is that what we're talking about? Oh, yeah. It's a coffee table book. And it's actually for the elderly. So I put the proper pronouns for each person. I'm Bukaking in the caption. So it helps them learn.
01:10:45
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that these things aren't always so binary. Honestly, an educational book. Yeah, I think it could be for kids too. Sure. Good Lord. Okay, everybody. Thanks for listening. We will be back next week. Who knows who's going to be on this show? It's a surprise to us even. Yeah, I love it.
01:11:05
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I like having no schedule, no idea what we're talking about, and just coming in and chatting pro wrestling with you. There's a decent chance neither of us will be on. It might just be a 72 minute block of just a random person breathing heavily. That could be next week's episode. Is it Beastman? Is it Mittens? Only time will tell. Is it me watching Beastman?
01:11:33
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It's you watching Beastman eating a turkey leg, drinking a hard dew. And that is ASMR, my friends. Yeah, I mean, I can't top that. All right. At Predetermined Podcast on Instagram, I am at Gartet on social media. What do you got?
01:11:53
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I'm at Jimmy facts on Twitter. Um, I also realized I lost our old podcast login credentials. So that's going to be, that's going to be it for me. I just shared some stuff with me in the Periscope brothers from a few years ago. I do that sometimes. I also tweet about the Yankees a lot. So, you know, it's fine if you don't follow me. All right, everybody. Thanks so much for listening. We'll see you next week. Hit the goddamn music.