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Episode 94 - ADHD and Hospitals - Is it the ultimate overwhelm?
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Back in the hospital room. Back in the hospital waiting room. Yes.
Introduction to ADHD and Hospitals
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ah So this week we're going to talk about hospitals. no ADHD and hospitals.
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ah can hear all I can almost hear all of our listeners going, oh, yes, fantastic. I know. I've been so looking forward to this one. Yes.
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ah Thank God for you guys. I know, right? So let's go to the place where the distractions are landmarks and the detours are the main roads. Welcome to ADHDville. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh. Oh, oh.
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other departments, radiology, radiology.
Meet the Hosts and Their ADHD Stories
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Hello, I'm Paul Thompson. I was diagnosed with a combined ADH and the D again, calling towards a bunch of years ago. Hello, I'm Martin Russell. I was diagnosed not in hospital, but in a sort of a, in a psychiatrist's office ah with the combined poopy platter in, yeah, in 2013.
Smoothies, Routine, and Dietary Habits
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And we start off as we as as we are as we have been doing recently um in the king King's Agitated Pub in ADHDville where Paul and I, the ex-co-mayors of ADHDville, sit the back and enjoy it and enjoy a drink.
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And i'm I'm on my smoothie tip still. I've um i've just finished to my smoothie. All right. Mine was a mine is a to today. It's ah banana and mango.
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Oh, nice. I know. Nice. Every day is different. See, that's such the thing. my Variety. That's where there's, right. So this is where the ADHD and the and the autism come to play because the autism part likes having that smoothie every day as a routine. Yeah.
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But my ADHD side has to like switch it up. Otherwise I'll just get bored. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Well, I also, I have to have the fruit quite near to the blender.
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Yeah.
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The fruit bowl is not the other side of the house. It's it's within but within about a metre and a half of the blender. Right, so you can just... Otherwise, I don't associate the two.
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Yeah, exactly. Nice. um All right, well, let's get in the tractor. And make our way. Where are we going, Paul?
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I think we'll go to the coffee shop, Martin. The coffee place. You know what? Sounds like a nice, chill place to talk about hospitals. and Hospitals.
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Let's just jump in. There we go. Whoa. All right. are
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Right. I've been exclusively drinking in my local coffee shop matcha tea with lavender and honey.
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Wow. Exotic. that's that's That's been my... I'll tell you what, lavender is definitely the flavour of 2025. It like... and he's like Everywhere.
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Okay. Did you hear, talking of, you know, that kind of thing, if you smell, if you if you have luck ah if you're lucky it's enough to have luck in your garden, if not, you can grow it on your windowsill.
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Rosemary. Okay. I've got several growing outside. Okay. Give it a sniff every day. It's great for ADHD and autism.
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right it it yeah it It kind of ignites your your, makes your brain more efficient. but They've done tests on it. Give ah a little bit of a sniff to your rosemary every day. it was supposed to hi I honestly go out there and sniff my herbs.
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um we have ah We plant um lemon seeds. Balm, which is a plant and it smells amazing. Smells like balmy. Lemons. Oh, so good.
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I like ah coriander. All right. Yes, I have that too. I have that too. Nice.
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ah Nice. So we're going to be talking about hospitals today. ah We are. We are.
Order and Structure in Hospitals
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We are. Which can be. because yeah Go on.
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Which can be. Can be challenging places. ah for you So ah where where are you on hospitals? Because for me, i can i actually, writing this script today, I've come to realize that I actually like hospitals. It's something that I find them very agreeable to the way my mind works.
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There is, you know what, ah I was thinking whether you were going to, what side you were going to come down on on hospitals. right. Because it's to say i hate hospitals, right, which right for the most part I do.
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but then there is actually ah kind of a fascinating side to well. Oh, yeah. I find them, I've just found them infinitely fascinating.
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Yeah. there's There's different elements of them on top level. They're very ordered places, right? So and this I love signage systems, which feeds into my, I like order. i like order and so sin Hospital signage systems.
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I just love those places. ah i I actually downloaded a list of potential signs that you might see in our hospital. I've only, after 56, I've only realized what ENT means.
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After all these years. E-N-T? Ears, nose and throat. Oh, okay. ah didn't i didn't I didn't know. Right.
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I thought Ent. What the hell is Ent? I thought, is it like a stent without the stir bit? No. What is that? No, Ears, nose and throat.
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It's a tree. it's ah It's a tree in The Lord of the Rings. Yes, that's true. That's what ENTS are. um And I won't hear any other explanation.
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No, no, no. Weirdly, though, coincidentally, I was talking to someone yesterday about ENTS, the trees. And it came literally yesterday. Literally.
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He came up with the idea for those trees because he just had an argument with his neighbours because they they had just cut down a tree that he really loved. And that's his inspiration for the Ents in that Lord of the Rings.
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Oh, wow. Okay. Nice. ah nice So why do you fall on hospitals?
Personal Hospital Experiences
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hospitals but i i try Well, if you are going fall anywhere, ah hospital would be perfect place to fall, to have a tumble.
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um I was in hospital last year because I had kidney cancer. so So I was there for a good few days, and then I visited my wife who was in there last about a month or so ago.
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So, so I have fresh, fairly fresh memories of, of being both a patient and the visitor. Yes. I mean, that most of us have had,
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bad experiences, haven't we? Of course. You know, they're not supposed to be they're not supposed to be places where you choose to go. man No, you don't choose. Well, yes, no, generally, yeah. There is something wrong with you.
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You go to the hospital. It's never going to be fun. It's not like going to... ah a theme park is it it's not like going to no no one chooses to go to a dentist it's like oh I know do you know what haven't been to a dentist for a while i think I'll go there today just for fun right but i when I'm there I do find them fascinating
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um All right. Orderliness. um I like, for instance, I remember when my when my son was born and there was just like, I remember watching this anesthetist that came in.
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um And I like the idea that this like this person has a very, very specific job and that's all they have to do, you know, anesthetize.
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That appeals to me.
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that everyone has a very set role and they generally keep to it. who You are definitely like a, ah you find you like function.
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but there is There is beauty in function, like the signage. yeah like the orderliness. And the fact that just from of a just just because I've got my design head on suddenly, everything has to be clear, right?
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You can't fancy things up. Everything is quite diary direct. um You know, all that the the these these these the the signage, everything is all just quite, yeah it's about function. So what what what I do like is those graphical this displays when you're hooked up to a computer monitor and has a big thing i says and it and it and it and it shows your heart rate and it shows your blood pressure and it shows your oxygen levels and and all of that then and that that kind of they they look cool
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and yeah They look like something of Star Trek. I like those. Practical use, isn't it? And even like I like doctors and nurses because they're they're straight talkers.
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You know, she won if you want their opinion, they'll give it. sugarcoat it. I remember when, again, in the same room, actually, where the anesthetist came, there was a lady next door giving birth without so help from drugs.
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Okay. And they um the nurse came. For some reason, I kind of knew that the nurse had come straight from her room.
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into my room, okay, where my son was about to be born. And I said to her, because she was scream she was screaming, this lady, with pain. Right.
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Okay. And i said I said to the nurse, is she crazy? And she said, no, sir. She's very, very brave. i was going to say. Yeah.
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And so... That told you. That's true. I mean, I love that. I love that kind of straight talk talkiness that you get from a nurse. Right. I would say. And especially nurses. i like Nurses are even more straight talkers than doctors.
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I would say they definitely are straight talking up to a point. And then they are definitely not straight talkers at all.
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Like.
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Trying to get prognosis
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out of anyone is extremely difficult. They won't tell you what is going on or what their thing is going on. Yeah.
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Because they can't, I suppose. Yes. Because they're like they have to they want to be sure that they are the person who can give you that information, if they even if they have it.
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And then when you when you get to like end of life care and you get into that world where you've got like someone there and they're, you know, they're towards the end of life, then you you really see how...
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they don't tell you so much.
Communication Challenges in Hospitals
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Yeah. for yeah For various reasons. they Yeah, they they um they are straight talking up to a point and then they're definitely like not straight talking at all.
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And you have to really yeah Yeah, i mean I know what you're saying, but especially if you're in like a hospice, um ah So, you know, you know you're getting their filtering information based on a need-to-know basis.
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Yeah, I mean, hu hospitals are about trying to keep you alive. They won't ever say anything that is not about trying to keep that person alive.
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Anyway, um and I would say... I would say um i um what I like about hospitals is is Is there anything I really love like about hospitals?
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I mean, you know like how you how you can get a dopamine from having an argument, for example? there's There's that sort of negative so a dopamine rush that you get.
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Yes. if If you're sort of like having have an argument and you're like charged up and yeah and your whole nervous system is kind of yeah excited and ablaze. Yeah.
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and the bla Yeah. um You know, so some people to get a a hey dopamine hit will have an argument.
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um And hospitals feel a little bit like that. Like there's there's a certain anxiety when you walk in that is kind of, there is something kind of quite nice about it as well.
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You know, there's something exciting about it, weirdly. Right. Yeah, but there's there' is that there's an unpredictability about it all. Right.
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You know, and you don't know what's going on around the corner. You have no idea. You know, um someone could be dying.
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Someone could have just had some amazing news because, you know, they they've been cured of something. ah Could be anything, couldn't it? um I mean, I once got lost in a hospital.
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mean, ridiculously lost. I was with my son. Yeah. We ended up in the basement. um And there was this, we got, we started going on this incredibly long corridor without any exit until you got right to the end.
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So there's no way of getting, um you know, there's only one way of going. And there must have been about 100 meters of this corridor. i'm not kidding. It very long. But there was a a small group of, there was a family group pushing a trolley, clearly with ah a dead relative on the trolley.
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Right. In a zip bag. Ouch. Okay. And I couldn't i couldn't overtake. I just felt like it was disrespectful. But they were going ever, ever so slowly out of respect, I suppose.
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It's not something you do fast. You know, you don't rush a trolley in that situation. So it seemed like it took half an hour to get from one end of the corridor to the other.
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Blimey. Yeah, but I could get lost in a ah hospital quite easily. Oh, yeah. They that they are very confusing places, especially if you're trying to find someone for the first time.
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So you yeah you know someone's in there. And you have to ask a load of people yeah try and find where they are. Yeah. And then in looking for that that person, you end up having to like crane your neck and looking into rooms.
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And again, that, that, unexpected element. You don't know what's going on, ah but you feel you feel like you're intruding on something very intimate, you know, ah but you have to look, you think, okay, if the nurse says, Oh, it's the third room on the right, but you're still looking at all the other rooms.
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Oh yeah, I know. Right. If they're on, especially if they're on the right, just in case you didn't hear it properly. So there's an element of discomfort. Yeah. Right, especially in my case when the when the guy behind the desk told me the wrong room number i got to to go in.
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Okay, look, this is a stupid story, right? Okay. He said, oh, it's it's room 403, right? Uh-huh. ah And so ah so I went into room 403. just went in, and then there was a very attractive woman in there.
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Yes. I went, wow. sorry. ah just like went, went, went out and I went, I went back to the desk. and I said, yeah. um ah Yeah. Room, room for a three. Yeah. That is not my wife. I mean, i mean, she is an upgrade.
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ah But I hope would much rather i actually visited my but my actual wife. Right. I think that was my stress talking. Yeah. know, like how you kind of just say stupid things when you're anxious. What did he
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What did he say? Oh, he just went, oh, oh. And then he told me the right room number. But I mean, yeah. So i apologize to my my wife. i was I was anxious. I was making an anxious joke.
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um Best ones.
Sensory Experiences in Hospitals
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and The best ones are anxious. i know. I mean, the the the the the things that really wind me up about hospitals, The noise, the constant noise.
00:19:31
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Yeah. The people and machines and the beeps. What about uniforms? Even as a guest.
00:19:42
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What? What? Their uniforms? Their uniforms. I don't have a problem with their. Do you have a? No, I have of the opposite a problem. I find them really um interesting.
00:19:58
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All right. Oh, I don't. I find a lady in a nurse's outfit extremely attractive. And I don't mean, you know, like the, you know, Victoria's Secret kind of like thing with suspenders and stuff.
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No, I mean just a normal, you know, ah all right normal nurse's outfit. Normal. All right. Yeah. Very attractive. Or blue. Oh, Jesus. I mean, look, yeah but my mum was a nurse, right?
00:20:25
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So the whole nurse's, Outfit does not work for me. Yeah. In the slightest. My mum was a psychiatric nurse. My grandfather on my mum's side was a psychiatric nurse.
00:20:41
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He was head nurse at St. Ebbers Mental Institution in Epsom. Runs in the family. Yeah, runs in the family. And my son is now a nurse.
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Wow. What went wrong with... There's a lot of noise. I don't know. It skipped a generation. went to graphics. draw pictures.
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Although I did work a lot with scalpels. I was like a surgeon. There we go. There we There's your connection if you're looking for it. I'm looking over here for for full my scalpel. I always have ah a scalpel to hand. Oh, there it is.
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There we go. I've got another thing that i that really really appeals to me is cable racks. You know when you go along the corridor? Oh, nice. Right. You know when you and need go along the corridor and they've got so many cables going on that at some point they've got like external cables in it like suspended from the ceiling, bulging with cables.
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Love those. Yeah. You love a good bunch of cabling. I love a bunch of cables going, you know, in like kind of like, you know, random directions.
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Right. I would say that on certainly here in in um and in American hospitals, you will have two people to a room separated by a curtain.
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So, yeah you are literally like the, you can hear absolutely everything that the person next to you is doing, farting, thinking, burping, shouting, whatever. Or the And that is just, it's just so dysregulating right there. I mean, you know, as a guest or whether you're, you know, in the, in the bed, it's just like, Oh God, you are the worst, the worst.
00:22:49
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Yeah. They're right there. So in America, right, there's some weird traditions. I'm not sure if it happens anymore. In the UK in the 70s and 80s, if you were visiting someone in a hospital, you would take grapes and Lucozade.
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do you remember that um yeah i remember that being in the uk yeah in the states what do they do i i don't i mean don't i don't ah tell i think you bring flowers maybe yeah so nothing to eat or drink But, you know, where does that come from? Where does that – it doesn't make any sense, grapes, other than they're kind of neatly packaged. I don't know.
00:23:40
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You know, they're easy to eat. Well, they're handy little snack bubbles. Yeah. You wouldn't take a grapefruit, would you? No.
00:23:52
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No. Just a grape. just just to Just a grape. I mean, i was also – the
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If all of the wires, so if you are if you're in bed and you're hooked up to and a machine, there's a bunch of wires coming from you enter into a machine, which means every time that you...
00:24:22
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move or you're there as ah as a yeah looking out for patient and they're moving you have to dance around all of these wires the whole time they're just like you know there's and you're scared about accidentally pulling one out or touching anything It's just like I just find those the whole wire thing to be oh it just to be um very stressful.
00:24:57
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Talking of stressful, and there is one aspect of hospitals that I really don't like. Hospital canteens.
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All right. Oh, yeah, I was in one. Just horrible places. ah just I'll avoid them at all costs because they remind me of hospital food, just the worst thing in the world.
00:25:20
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There is one hospital It's like a sensory nightmare. That I love, right? So when when I was having my kidney chopped chopped up,
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um and I came out of the anesthetic, the first thing that they would feed me was this little sort of this little sort of ah vanilla pudding that came in a tub.
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um And I loved these. my me my um And um so every time I go to a hospital, I go down to this hospital canteen and I look for this little vanilla tub.
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and i and i And I buy them and they are fantastic. And I and i'm and i'm love it. and the And the interesting thing is I can buy them at the supermarket down the road. Right. Right. But they don't taste the same. but No.
00:26:17
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They only taste right in a hospital. Right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure, because it's the air thing, isn't it? There's like disinfectant in the air, like heavily.
00:26:29
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Right. There's something about, yeah. Yeah. it ah In Italy, the um hospital food is associated with something very specific, fennel soup.
00:26:42
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Okay. Okay. Yeah, which I love, but no one eats them outside of hospital because they they're very strongly it's very strongly associated with hospital food.
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But i love fennel soup. o um so remainific i have some I have some fennel growing fennel soup.
Cooking Tip and Neurodivergent Advice
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outside so all that nice my life to make such it have fun What's really nice with fennel, just a sidebar, raw fennel chopped up with them orange, oranges.
00:27:19
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Okay. So take an orange. Fennel and orange as a side salad is phenomenal. All right. little bit of pepper, a little bit of olive oil. Bob's your auntie. All right.
00:27:30
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Love it. Okay. There you are. You get like cookery tips as well. It's a Sicilian dish. Very nice. Okay. um What about – Go on. Yeah, go on.
00:27:44
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I was going to say one important thing is, I think, is which I realized last time around is – Hospitals are not always going to be very good.
00:27:59
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You know, like if you are neurodivergent, they're going to be very taxing on you with the overhead lights and the noise and the stress. and all of that.
00:28:10
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um And it's important to to try and regulate yourself because what ah what ah what I found is is that if you're going to visit someone who is ill and in hospital and you're sitting there and you are starting to stress out yeah and because you're getting all this and you're getting overstimulated, then the person, the ill person in the bed ends up having to like...
00:28:38
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look after you totally because because because you're starting to have a little sort of mini a little mini little mini melt meltdown so yeah my dad is like that it's my dad is a nightmare in hospitals Right. and need right So it's just good to like know yourself and try and don't be the one that everyone has to like fucking look after.
00:29:11
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Yeah, exactly. So bring headphones, yeah do you know only stay for a certain amount of time, whatever it is that that you need to do so that you can... When my mum was getting chemotherapy in a hospital, my dad would visit, but he'd always have to take a newspaper.
00:29:29
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And that was his way of regulating himself. All right. Because he he just found hospitals deeply um troubling and discomforting.
00:29:41
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And you just like, like my mum would be like there and she's like just being go through chemo. and She needs like a helping out. And my dad just couldn't handle it. He'd just be sitting in a corner in an armchair reading the paper.
00:29:55
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Yeah. And that was just his way regulating. But still. Right. And I would top tip, if you are in hospital and you need to get away, there is always a chapel in the hospital where you can just go and it'll be quiet and you can just sit in there and just kind of like, you know.
00:30:19
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That's a good call. That's definitely a good call. Catch a few minutes of peace. Yeah. How are you with um accident and emergency services, ah waiting rooms? When was the last thing you had to go in A&E?
00:30:34
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oh ah ah You know what? I don't. I'm struggling to think if I ever have been in A&E. I know I have done, but it was fairly, it was years ago and it was.
00:30:49
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Okay. It wasn't too bad. Last time I went. I know you have. Sure in. yeah I've been a few times because I've, but believe it or not, in 20 years I've been living in ah Italy. I've never had my own GP.
00:31:02
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So whenever I've had problems, I would go to a and e because it would just get so bad, you know, I'd let let it i'd live ah let it go and let it go, hoping it would just go away until it got so bad I'd have to, like, walk myself to the A&E department.
00:31:19
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ah And one time I woke up in the morning and my head was spinning and the room was spinning, but, I mean, really violently the point that couldn't stand up.
00:31:31
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And I thought, whoa, what the hell is going on? And i'll let and it it was really bad. and And then I thought it will pass. i it It's never happened to me before.
00:31:42
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Then the next day i woke up and it was the same again, but even worse. So then I got up and I walked to A&E. I was like zigzagged to A&E. And I was there for a few hours.
00:31:55
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And it was a stone that had come loose in my ear. So, know, yes. So it's a normal when you're, when you're in your fifties, there's a stone, there's a kind of stone in your ear that, that that gets, has been consumed over the years.
00:32:11
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And it, this, this kind of thing can happen and you lose your balance basically. But yeah, I was there for hours and I didn't dislike it. Even though i was there for hours and hours left on a trolley for like in the corridor for like five, six, seven hours. I didn't dislike it actually.
00:32:29
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Hmm. Yeah, interesting. Interesting. Interesting. That's very... I know, well, I was just thinking, you know, like, obviously, obviously, us lot with ADHD, know, like, we we often end up in the fucking, a a and you know, in the A&E, in the accident and in emergency room because we've done something stupid, you know, or as you say, we've not...
00:32:58
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fifty be we've not we've not treated a problem and and until it's become like yeah hospital worthy. Yeah. it It reminds me of one of the first episodes we had. We talked about our experiences when we were looking after our cars and and our cars would just get so bad.
00:33:16
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You know, we just forget to take them to the mechanic, forget to get a service to the point where they would just blow up on the road in front of us. That's how I treat my body.
Hospital Ratings and Dopamine
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You know, boy I don't take it for an MOT. Your internet got really slow.
00:33:33
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All right. I think now maybe we get on to rating yes hospitals. Is it a different movie? Is it a different movie?
00:33:47
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Is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing? Banjo is definitely. Banjo is definitely a dopamine hit. But dopamine hit, ah it is a big one, actually, surprising.
00:33:59
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Surprisingly. Okay. i think I think it's high. I think it's like an 8.5 for me. for me Wow. All right. see You get a lot of dupes.
00:34:13
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I do. I should have been a nurse. I should have carried on the family tradition. It's in the blood, mate. It's in the blood. It is, literally. Jesus. How about you? I am definitely not, even though it is in the blood because my mum was a nurse and my her mum was a nurse.
00:34:32
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So we do come I do i do have do have that in my blood. I would still say that, I mean. And you've worked in hospital. Have worked in one?
00:34:44
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yeah you Well, yes in a meant in a sort of hospital. Yeah, I worked in a mental institution, institution a big old Victorian, yeah i mean, popper proper with cut earth proper sort of gothic brick mental institution out in the woods where, you know. Lovely. Lovely.
00:35:10
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Oh, it's proper scary. um Proper scary. Yeah, but I would i would rate hospitals, um I mean, like low. I think I'd get about maybe a two. Oh, it's low.
00:35:22
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Yeah, for me. Oh, okay. like I don't get much out of them. I get a bit, but yeah it's more of a struggle. All right.
00:35:34
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Then what about... What was your burnout score out of 10? Burnout. This is a tricky one. ah think it's so there's only high burnout because the dopamine is quite high.
00:35:48
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So by the time I come out of the hospital, I'm exhausted. But I guess that's normal, isn't it? yeah I'd say burnout score is of five, though, an even five.
00:36:01
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Nothing particularly crazy. All right. I'm definitely going higher. um I mean, i there for me, it it's an eight.
00:36:12
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It's it's up up there. So I find hospitals very draining with a bit of yeah interesting dopamine hits. but But it sounds like you're you're you're on the on the other end.
00:36:25
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Yeah, I'm the other end. Also, just as as if ah is yeah um if only for like the aesthetics of of it as well. You know, what comes to mind is like the kind of Stanley Kubrick kind of scene, even if it was, in his case, it was a hotel, massive hotel.
00:36:42
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It's the same kind of aesthetic for me. I like it. I like it a lot. All right. Okay. Then let's, we have to do now is to jump in the tractor and we're going to go over to, to check on progress at, see how, how and Alexandra, the postmaster general, how, how her,
00:37:05
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Let's do that. I was going to say pub, but to but she's but she told me that she's um so it isn't a pub. It's ah it's an inn. It's an inn.
00:37:16
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In like Lord of the Rings style. Yes. um and And an inn is different from a pub because because you can you can you can rent rooms and you can sleep there. Exactly.
00:37:32
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And all that. All right. Let's jump in. and make her way over to her place.
00:37:41
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There
00:37:47
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she goes. Oh, I know. Castanets. Yeah, she says this place is haunted.
00:37:54
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oh and um ah carness yeah she says this this place is is hole is haunted Apparently. Oh, her inn is haunted. Okay. Her inn is haunted since she says that she feels like the ghost co-host, which rhymes.
00:38:16
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Ghost co-host. um Okay. And, yeah, so ah even though this this inn is still being built, it is already occupied With a ghost, it's like they they couldn't wait to get in.
00:38:31
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Yeah. Well, it's probably, yeah, they they're not easy to get hold or get rid of, are they? It's not like they come and go with, you know, new residents. They're kind of like fixed furnishings.
00:38:46
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Yeah. um see um ah She also hasn't come up with a... name for this in yet. So, okay.
00:38:56
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All right. Incoming. Incoming. Okay.
00:39:02
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I would, she did say about, in this kind of, um so if, so she writes nice long comments in the on the YouTube channel. So go and read it all because it's so yeah because it's always fun.
00:39:19
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um One thing that she did say about one of the weddings that she wanted went to was that she left the wedding and ended up at 7am at a cafe and I know that you and I have have been in that kind of place you know like where you're I'm pretty sure where you you've been out for for a night.
00:39:46
Speaker
Yes. We used to stop over in Streatham High Street for a 6 or 7 in the morning. Right.
00:39:56
Speaker
Yeah. And you end up... I like that. there was There was something special about... When you've been partying all night and you go into the morning and you just go in to tutu get breakfast in a cafe or cup of coffee. is I can't remember the last time did that.
00:40:16
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I know. Probably with you in London somewhere. Yes, I know. um And she did give the, um she gave a weddings, a score, which is, way which is we ski I think our scores for the wedding were something like 3.5, was quite low. Anyway, so her scores were, I think it's,
00:40:46
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Three for dopamine and nine for burnout. Yeah, which is high. Yeah. High, especially if you're leaving the wedding at seven o'clock in the morning.
00:40:57
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Blimey. That's my worst nightmare.
00:41:03
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It really is. But Greek weddings do sound like fun. And but but what we didn't talk about was and which we should have done is because there's a lot going on at weddings, if you're like a guest you're neurodivergent, you will tend to hit the alcohol to kind of cope with it.
00:41:27
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ah Massively, yeah, especially British kind of – well, and all so I guess in most cultures, in most cultures it's serious amounts of alcohol.
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was talking to some Albanian clients of mine couple of weeks ago. In and Albania, they have two weddings, one for one where the bright in the village where the bride lives and one where the groom lives on different days.
00:41:57
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And it could be like weeks apart, but they have to have them in both villages. Yeah. and Lots of dancing. Lovely.
00:42:09
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Alexandra did say, ah don't get the rehearsal that they have in the States. Do they still do it? I have no idea. i mean, why they have to do the thing twice.
00:42:25
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um In the UK, you only have the rehearsal with the with the church part. ah you So in the you in right in in the States, we have the rehearsal, as it's called, which is actually usually it's a it's ah it it's a it's it's an evening it's an evening at dinner that you go to the restaurant um What? With the bride's family and the groom's family so that they meet and chat. And this usually happens on the night before the the wedding.
00:43:06
Speaker
That's like when it's... normally done is that based on any particular religion or just an american thing it's an american thing thing okay i think it's i think it's there is a if if you've got people from out of town they usually fly in and then i think that they kind of do a well let's meet the parents okay um and they do it then yeah Meh.
00:43:37
Speaker
But, yeah yeah i mean yeah, mean, what do you want from me? ah What do you want from me? Okay. This is a sometimes stupid country.
00:43:49
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um Anyway, see you. Thanks as ever to alex Alexandra. Always great have feedback. Yeah, as Martin said, we want your feedback. Go and read Alexandra's feedback.
00:44:01
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Give us your feedback on this. Tell us how much you love us or of hate us or how indifferent you are. okay Thumbs up. next Thumbs down emoji. Next episode, take you can tee yourselves up, you know.
00:44:13
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know You can collect your favorite blanket or your thermos flask, whatever you want to do to prepare yourself. It's about, well, you're deciding, Martin, the next one, aren't you?
00:44:23
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I was going to say. So we we all decide we now take it in turns. um And ah I thought, as as I did a post on cults,
00:44:36
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a while ago.
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00:44:38
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Oh, right. um ah And someone was like, okay I really want to hear the whole story. want to hear the story about you and a cult. So do I, actually.
00:44:47
Speaker
Right. So do I know most of it. But I'm sure there's some little details. I don't know. ah Yes. It's fun. Okay.
00:45:00
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It's a fun story. Okay. Yeah. So next week we're going to be talking about cults. So if you've got any thoughts on cults, have you been in a cult? Have you got out of a cult?
00:45:12
Speaker
ah Let me know. Are you thinking of getting into a cult? Yeah. do you Do you want to start one? What? kiss yeah what what what What would you call your cult? you want to start one?
00:45:25
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Yeah. By the way, the next next episode, is and that's going to be episode 95. Is it really? Jesus Christ.
00:45:35
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I know. we are we are We are heading towards that that that weirdly arbitrary 100. Yeah, triple digits.
00:45:47
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I know. Crazy, isn't it? Anyway, I think okay that just leaves me house a to to find the outro button. Yeah, know.
00:45:57
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00:46:33
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