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Episode 111 - ADHD & The Secret Power of Soup: Comfort, Regulation & Low-Effort
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It's Tuesday, welcome back to ADHDville!
Ever find yourself reaching for the same simple, comforting meal when your energy is low or your brain feels overwhelmed? You're not alone, and there's a surprising reason why.
In this week's episode, we're diving into the wonderfully warm and often overlooked world of ADHD and Soup. Join ex-mayors Paul and Martin as they explore why soup is more than just a meal—it's a powerful tool for the neurodivergent brain.
We’ll break down the key connections, including:
- Sensory Regulation: How predictable textures and temperatures can be a safe harbour.
- Reduced Decision Fatigue & Effort: Why the simple, one-pot, one-spoon meal is an executive functioning lifesaver.
- Comfort Through Routine: The stability of a familiar meal in a chaotic world.
- Gastrointestinal Considerations: The unexpected link between digestion, ADHD, and easy-to-process foods.
From canned tomato soup nostalgia to the debate of chunky vs. smooth, we're serving up a hearty discussion filled with personal stories, laughs, and a surprisingly chaotic soup quiz.
So, grab your favourite broth, cup of soup, or pot noodle, and join us in the King's Agitated Head pub for a conversation that's as comforting as the topic itself.
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Transcript
Introduction and Soup Enthusiasm
00:00:00
Speaker
Back in the room, mate. Back in the room. Hello, everyone. Back in the room. and when And we're glad that you're here in the room with us. Yeah. With a nice drink or a nice snack.
00:00:13
Speaker
Or a broth. A broth, even. A cup of soup. A cup of soup. Yeah, right. All right. Pot noodle.
00:00:24
Speaker
Blimey. They have pot in the States. you have pot noodles in the States? Yes. Okay. Yeah, we did do. It is definitely a thing here. It sounds like something that was invented in the States, a pot noodle.
00:00:37
Speaker
It may well have been. um I don't. Yeah, I feel like it was. ah All
ADHD and Soup: Unlikely Connections
00:00:45
Speaker
right. So let's get to the place where the distractions and the details are the way to welcome to a HD film.
00:00:52
Speaker
That was chaotic. Sooty twist. Sooty twist.
00:01:05
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podcast about hd and autism stuff hello i'm paul thompson and i was diagnosed with soup And ADHD two years ago.
00:01:17
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and I'm Martin Weston. was diagnosed with a combined ADHD poo-poo platter in a can in 2013. And we start off in the local pub in ADHDville, the king's agitated head, where we, the ex-mayors of ADHDville, take care of business.
00:01:34
Speaker
And this week, ah it's your it's your subject, yeah Paul. This week's about ADHD and soup. Very seasonal. You're probably thinking, well, come on, guys.
00:01:47
Speaker
You're pushing it a bit. youre You're stretching it a bit. um right It turns out we're not. There's actually a lot of um associations we can make with the world of soup, it turns out.
00:02:00
Speaker
I'm interested. um i was yeah You know what? i i I made soup to today. like i I'm in soup season. ah I will be making soup every week. and This week, my soup was ah black bean Mexican soup.
00:02:19
Speaker
And then that's what I made made this morning and had for lunch. And obviously you you make it in quantity so that I can put it in the fridge and I can pull it out and eat it over the next couple of days. So it's one advanced soup.
00:02:35
Speaker
We had this week, we had black kale and ginger soup. Ooh. That's very nice. I like the sound of that. Last week's was a white bean and and kale soup.
00:02:50
Speaker
um right yeah yeah i don't like beans though in soup we'll get into that i don't like soup i don't like beans in soup all right don't like beans in soup get his beans out come on go come on go to the chip shop instead i'm just gonna shut the shut the the blinds here because Otherwise, I end up getting... At the end of the episode, the podcast episode, i all I am is just like this the sun comes to the river. All right. So ah let's jump in the... in the period that's cotain that Yeah, down... Let's go to the coffee shop, shall we?
00:03:34
Speaker
Oh, nice. They may serve some soup there. Well, yeah. In the winter, surely. In the winter. Absolutely. Soup of the day. I wonder what it is.
00:03:47
Speaker
of the day. Yeah. Soup of the day. Soup of the day.
00:03:58
Speaker
It's a pea soupa out there. It is actually. Here is a pea soupa. Oh, is it really? There's a folk. There's a folk and there's ah there's a there's a Russian wintery front arriving as we speak.
00:04:13
Speaker
Jesus. love Yeah, him too. but hasn and So, yeah, ADHD and soup. You're probably thinking, oh, come on, guys. a bit a stretch. Actually...
00:04:25
Speaker
When you actually put your spoon in and testing you test it, you suddenly realize that actually there's a lot of associations you can make between soup and ADHD, right?
Soup's Comfort and ADHD Benefits
00:04:36
Speaker
All right. For instance, I've got gloves four main categories here. Sensory regulation, reduced decision and effort, comfort through routine, and yes, there's a physiological part which we'll go into.
00:04:52
Speaker
There's an actually physiological thing you can associate with the world of, between the worlds of super and ADHD, right? Okay. Yeah. So this first one, sensory regulation, okay, it's bad basically the most predictable thing you can have.
00:05:08
Speaker
oh Right? So you know you're going to get. and it's probably one of the most consistent and predictable foods that you can possibly have. so if you want to take out you know that kind of the problem with choice and stuff,
00:05:25
Speaker
you get you go You go to a supermarket and you get like a can of tomato soup. that was where is my go That was my go-to in the 60s. In the 60s?
00:05:38
Speaker
In the 70s and Heinz tomato soup was my go-to. Pretty usable. It was. Yeah. Totally pretty. So that there is this kind of...
00:05:50
Speaker
this um this That element of it. So for me, for example, I'm very sensitive to the sensory regulation part of food.
00:06:01
Speaker
Right. Like, as we say before we went on air, I can't stand the idea of chunky soup. Chunky soup. I love a chunky soup. But but for you... It's got to be blended to death.
00:06:15
Speaker
blended to is it Blended to within an inch of its life. that' it it's so smooth as as glo and dr dr loosely can't say As smooth as Luther van a on a fur rug by the fire That's how smooth you want your soup. It was smooth, Martin. It's a good choice of, yeah.
00:06:43
Speaker
um Also, yeah, so easy oh easy to chew. So it reduces discomfort around textures. That's where I come in. oh I don't like the, I don't like that things like,
00:06:56
Speaker
i like to be it needs to be i like it to be predictable but every part strongly yeah smooth smooth like like easy listening jazz So you're okay with, you can go chunky, you can go smooth. you know You can be chunky and smooth at the same time. yeah, yeah. No, no, i in in in fact, when i when I make soup, what I what i tend to do is is um I will do it in my in my Dutch oven thing on the stove top, on the and on the top. And then I will take out, when it's cooked, I will take out half the soup that has all the lumps in it. Put that to one side.
00:07:37
Speaker
And then I'll get the hand blender and then blend the other half until it's really smooth. And I'll add the other chunky bits back in so that I have like a nice mix of smooth and chunky.
00:07:52
Speaker
That's how I like to do it myself. Well, i'm um'm ah I'm up for that if the chunks are actually meat. Oh, I see If the chunks if a chunks of vegetables, I can't do it. You're like, no, I can't do it. I just want the, yeah.
00:08:10
Speaker
All right. Well, if you come round for soup one day, i'll I will try and remember that. Okay. Right. yeah so i need to i need to be able to i need to be able to suck soup through straw as a kind of a guide of consistency that's where i'm which honestly is is gonna help as you get older right as you get really old and then all you can do is actually just suck food through a straw you're gonna be like bonus Fantastic. all but All my food is now straw.
00:08:45
Speaker
Yeah. comes in the straw. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. training. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going to feel less shame when I'm being spoon-fed.
00:08:56
Speaker
Yeah. You'll be like, by a nurse I did this in my Yeah.
00:09:03
Speaker
40s actually, yeah. Oh, right. I think one of the most effective, you know, you know the most close associations with ADHD is the reduced decision and effort, right? Executive functioning, right?
00:09:16
Speaker
Because it food food requires the probably the fewest steps in preparation that you could possibly have. Yeah, soup's easy. you You empty your soup. We're talking about canned soup.
00:09:30
Speaker
Oh my God. Sorry, I keep forgetting that people actually. Yes. Yes. Canned soup. Yeah. Even if, as we know now, you know making a soup at home is the easiest thing in the world.
00:09:44
Speaker
Yeah, kind of. And much better for you. yeah But canned soups, yeah, yeah, easy, easy, easy. Easy, easy. Also, easy to eat, right? You only need one spoon.
00:09:55
Speaker
Yeah. Right? Economically. So you've got, basically, you've got a saucepan, one spoon, and one bowl. So you've got a lot less cleaning up to do.
00:10:06
Speaker
Nice. Which is always a bonus. It's always a bonus. It doesn't require any complex planning. You don't have combine loads of ingredients or cutting up food or anything. So it's kind of like says here, this makes it low effort option during times of low energy and burnout. Yeah. Just go buy 100 tins of soup.
00:10:35
Speaker
I know, right? I know. But I'd be better. Yeah, go on. Carry on. there Carry on. Comfort through routine, Martin.
00:10:47
Speaker
ah the I think we've said that, yes. Yeah. Yeah, we predictability, eating the same kind of spoon soup regularly, it might provoke provide a sense of stability. Right.
00:11:00
Speaker
Which is always good. Was it your your dad always had the same sandwiches every day? no it was it it was my granddad who had cheese and sandwiches every day of his working life. yeah Yeah, good Lord, how how predictable was was he? he was very predict He was a very predictable man. In fact, now that I've come to think about it, about it right he would drive...
00:11:23
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he would he would drive from his house in East Quinstead over to Banstead where I live, which was a good, I don't know, I want to say it's like a 40, 45 minute drive, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:38
Speaker
yeah tick And he always left at the same time. He knew and he arrived at the same time. And then one winter, it snowed really badly.
00:11:50
Speaker
Yes. And my mum phoned him up to say, hey, you know, Dad, don't bother coming because it's like, it's so much slow. but But he still left at the same time and arrived at the same time.
00:12:05
Speaker
Wow. Which was the shocking part. He was that, yeah but you know, even though he was snowing a blizzard, he maintained he maintained his speed throughout Okay, so you in the in the past you've referred to that Aspect as maybe ah an indicator of some level of autism, right?
00:12:28
Speaker
h Okay. And i was i was reading the other day that this is where the overlap between ADHD and autism can be a bit of a tricky one because the autistic side of you likes the um the predictability and the structure. But the ADHD side of us kicks out at that and doesn't want it. It reacts against it.
00:12:57
Speaker
It's a bugger. It's a bugger. It is. But you see, that's where soup is good because you ski you can have soup every lunch if you want, but then which will satisfy your autistic side.
00:13:14
Speaker
yeah But your ADHD side can be a little bit more appeased because one day you're going to have tomato, the next day you have mushroom, the next day after that you'll have like... have Italian wedding soup which is something that we have here is that something that exists over your way Italian wedding soup yeah Italian wedding soup no it's a thing it's a thing I'm gonna have to wow obviously all right so it's new to taoo you then yeah yeah
00:13:53
Speaker
um'm I'm just Googling now. There we go. it is a So this is what it is. It's a hearty soup made with tiny meatballs, greens like spinach and small pasta in a savory chicken broth.
00:14:10
Speaker
The name is a mised oh it's a mistranslation of the Italian minestra. ah Okay, yeah. Minestra maritata, which means married soup.
00:14:24
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Wow, okay. There we go. Yeah, I've never heard of that one. But yeah, there's so much. it People generally know like ah an idea of what Italian food is, but it's so varied.
00:14:37
Speaker
It's massively varied from one region to another. So there's often like loads of dishes that are really famous in one region
Cultural Significance of Soup
00:14:45
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and not in another. Well, how how is it on the...
00:14:53
Speaker
Right, so so what about the soup then? What about its Italians and soup? Are they big so soup people? They're not big on soup, actually. Do they get into bit of soup? and I think it's more of a northern hemisphere. It's a more more of a northern European thing.
00:15:08
Speaker
You know, it's to heat yourself up. It was a poor people's thing, you know, because that what rash that's what chefs do, don't they? They make soup from the leftovers.
00:15:20
Speaker
and soup was always a poor people's meal.
00:15:26
Speaker
All right. Well, that's that's what I do. um Although, I i don' i think i mean i think ah it was definitely a posh people's food as well because there is an expression which is from soup to nuts.
00:15:42
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Is that ah ah and an expression that you've come across? From soup to nuts. Not until now. Which means from the start to the finish, right? Right.
00:15:58
Speaker
So when you went to a posh hey posture dinner, the first course was soup and the last course was nuts. So it was like was like from beginning to end, soup to nuts.
00:16:12
Speaker
It means everything, like all of it Now think of it. Now think that they used to have, the posh people used to have a thing called ah a soup tureen. It was like this silver thing with a posh silver ladle.
00:16:26
Speaker
So yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, definitely. But yeah, it's it's ah it's it is, um you were saying that chefs, that they but they they bung stuff into soups.
00:16:40
Speaker
So I make my my own my own broth. at home which is which so basically which is the found found found which is the foundation of my soups and it sounds like I'm being all kind of like posh and chefish but but really what this is right is i When I found this out, I was like, why am I spending five bucks on a carton of broth? And I can make it home for nothing. So every time I chop up vegetables, right, it goes in bag, which goes in the freezer.
00:17:20
Speaker
which goes in the goes in the in the phaser And then and every time i'm um I'm chopping up vegetables, I just keep throwing it in this bag. And then when the bag's full, I get out my Instapot, my pressure cooker, shove it in, shove in some some water, turn it on. and then And then 40 minutes later, I've got i've i've got i've got i've got i've got a vegetable broth, which I then into jars.
00:17:53
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like that free. my That's what it's exactly what my girlfriend does. She's always got. Right. It's free. like She's got like, what should you call them?
00:18:07
Speaker
Like single, not dosages, but... um Just got them separated out. The English words are coming
Broth vs. Stock: A Flavor Debate
00:18:18
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in. Yeah, exactly.
00:18:20
Speaker
Oh, my God. It's like single servings of the broth. so We could go into the Yesterday, for example. Oh,
00:18:32
Speaker
okay. There's a bit of lag. Yesterday, for example, I made a risotto. And she already had the broth that's ready, so the the the secret of a good risotto is the broth.
00:18:49
Speaker
So, um you know, my part of the job was easy because she'd already made the broth, like, weeks before and put it in the freezer. Yeah. Anyhow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:01
Speaker
But, yeah, it sounds like you've got good habits there, mate, good habits. or is it ah And I was like, what, I'm saving five bucks every time I do this?
00:19:12
Speaker
I'm in. I am so in. Yeah. um So, yeah, that's so that's that's that's what I do with my left leftovers.
00:19:23
Speaker
but isn't it I turn them into money. There's a three Michelin-star chef called in England called Marco Pierre White. And he swear east swears blind by the cubes.
00:19:36
Speaker
All right. What do you call them? Stock cubes. Stock cubes. Bullion cubes. Yeah, stock cubes. He swears blind by them. They're fine. They're really good.
00:19:53
Speaker
So, you know, if he can say it, you know, and he's a real stickler for quality. Right. But my my my point is is that mine my stock is free.
00:20:05
Speaker
Yeah. to have to buy it. Yeah, yeah, totally. I'm just cutting up vegetables anyway, just like shoving it in a bag. Yeah. Golden. um one thing that i do love like about soups is that from an adhd point of view is that it's it's it's i mean if if you're gonna make it is that it's really for giving like anything is soup like like you can you can you know you can shove anything in it you can shove anything in it and make soup you know oh fish soup oh lovely
00:20:40
Speaker
I mean, anything. You can literally just shove whatever you've got in the soup. Just like shove in. Shovel it in. If you overcook it, it's still soup. If you undercook it, it's still soup.
00:20:55
Speaker
Yeah. but if there's There's no right order for things. You can just literally... Do you remember, Martin, there used to be, um maybe still there, in Rygate, so near where we went to our college, there was a French bistro.
00:21:12
Speaker
Yeah, called Red... Do you remember it? No, Rouge, Café Rouge. No, no that that was like um oh that was like a like a chain thing the centre. Yeah, all right. No, this was like a popper bistro near the near the old library.
00:21:29
Speaker
Not the upright room. Near the old bookshop. You know the dusty old bookshop that was there? It was the next door. Oh, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got it, yeah The lantern or something like that? don't know, but it isn't there anymore. Oh, okay, right. They used to have, reason mentioned that because they used to have monkfish soup on the menu quite regularly.
00:21:54
Speaker
Ooh! very posh god it was good yeah well it it uh ragate was a posh town with posh people right had posh soup soup that it turns out right um so um i've got them another aspect to uh adhd on here related to soup It's gastrointestinal considerations. maled Oh, so glad you came up with that. Yes.
00:22:27
Speaker
Apparently, if you're if you're either ADHD, autistic or both, you have higher rates of digestive issues, right? So soup can be easier on the on the stomach for those kind of situations because you haven't got break down things.
00:22:50
Speaker
Do you have that problem, Martin, with breaking down food? No, i don't. ah Would you like to? mark
00:23:04
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Yes, I really would like to have in intestinal problems. I don't have enough of them. That's a very good point, Paul. Thank you. I need more issues downstairs.
00:23:17
Speaker
Yeah, that's why I left it till last. So great. one of the best ones. Yeah, no, I mean, i ah yeah, what's this? um ah I would say that, okay, well, I know that you don't like beans in in in your in your soup, but bean soup is, if you've got ADHD, is really good for you um because ah protein.
00:23:43
Speaker
Well, fiber. This is where we're going. Fiber and your gut biome and this chemical compound called... finally Biotrine? Oh God, now I can't they remember. But fiber and bean soup is like i fucking good for for your ADHD and inflammation.
00:24:09
Speaker
um Yeah, yeah eight ah you should be eating like ah between one, two cups of beans a day, Paul. I mean, I eat beans every day, but I... Do you? Oh, God, yeah. every Every day there is beanage going on. So i have about at least one cup of beans, but but but now I'm going to have to, like, up that.
00:24:33
Speaker
Okay. Up my bean count. I'm guessing you spend quite you've got quite a lot of time in the bathroom. No. You're quite regular. You're regular.
00:24:44
Speaker
Regular, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not like, yeah, yeah. No, it's all good. Okay. goodby Bean soup. Okay. but But we should save that subject for another episode. Maybe you should do a whole episode about bowel movement.
Nostalgia and Soup Preferences
00:24:57
Speaker
What? ADHD and the toilet. About... It's doing bowel movements. Oh, blimey. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. So, okay.
00:25:08
Speaker
What, what, what, um, if you've got go-to soup, if you had to buy, Martin, a ah can of soup, if you had to buy a can of soup, what can of soup you buy? Oh.
00:25:22
Speaker
I wouldn't. Why am I buying a can of soup, mate? but What about in the is why Why are you making me? All right. um ah All right. So if I was a kid and I was going to run into the store, this bub would say, go and get a can of soup for your dinner. And I'd be like, I don't want soup. I want i want iven i want oven pizza and chips.
00:25:46
Speaker
um Yeah. But did did you have did you have cans of soup in your larder in the 70s? No.
00:25:53
Speaker
and eighties that no my mum wasn't really she she didn't wasn't wasn't i mean so if i was forced to go in into a store when i was a kid i would probably get cream of mushroom would be top of me list right that'd be numero uno yourself i would go we've got three tomato yeah ox tail and molly pitoni All right.
00:26:23
Speaker
Well, now I think of oxtail. Now on that no I think of French onion soup, which which is yes which is like this which is up there in the indie gods of soup.
00:26:35
Speaker
that would yeah like That would be in the running for for best soup ever. How are your croutons in your soup? um They're fine. word with word They're hanging out. I mean, I don't tend to do courchons that often, to be honest.
00:26:56
Speaker
It comes to mind because French onion soup. I remember the first time I had French onion soup, they put like um like sliced baguette toasted yeah on the top. yeah absolutely Yeah. Lovely.
00:27:08
Speaker
And cheese. Yeah. Yeah. Grilled cheese on the top. Yeah, it's so bad for you, I ah believe. Yeah, yeah. It's unbelievable. Terrible. Yeah, yeah.
00:27:19
Speaker
Good. um All right, so, yeah, did you did you answer well what was your favourite? Oh, yeah, you... Yeah, oxtail tomato morigatoni.
00:27:31
Speaker
All right, yeah. Which I'm sure morigatoni is basically an Indian, it's like dr the indian soup. Lentils? No. then Isn't it?
00:27:42
Speaker
No. Molagatone is like a curry soup. Right. And you can if you go to a curry house in in England, you can often find Molagatone soup on the menu. But I'm sure it doesn't exist. It's just an invention.
00:27:57
Speaker
Oh, it oh well you mean over in India? Yeah.
00:28:05
Speaker
Mulligatoni soup is basically, ah yeah, it's ah it's an adaptation from the from the colonial era. It has lentils. I i knew it damn well had lentils.
00:28:19
Speaker
Okay. um ah Yeah. ah Lentils, vegetables, curry curry powder, and then other bits and pieces. And then what whatever you have on hand.
00:28:31
Speaker
chap did but clearly when i've had mulligan toni soup when i was when when i was a small boy clearly the lentils had been had been um blended to a pulp because i hate i hate lentils so much oh i'm sure that oh yeah because every time you have indian food there are probably lentils in there yeah yeah all kind of mushed
00:28:58
Speaker
Yeah. Smoosh it. Okay. Okay. Good for you, mate. Yeah. All right. i think i felt it I think I'm ex i'm i'm exhausted of
Soup's Emotional and Practical Appeal: A Rating
00:29:12
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ADHD. You've been done on the soup. Soup.
00:29:17
Speaker
I'm just looking down my notes and I'm not seeing anything here. Well, hopefully if you're not too exhausted because I've got a quiz for you, Martin, on soups. Canned All right.
00:29:28
Speaker
All right. Okay. Well, are we going to do that now? Well, do we need to get back in the in the the tractor? Should we do it now? Are you tired? Would you like a little a nap?
00:29:41
Speaker
I'd like a post-soup nap. I think what we'll do is that we will we will rate. We will rate. Of course we do, yes.
00:29:52
Speaker
ah Soup. Yeah. Is he a dopamine hit or is he a dopamine nap? Is Soup a... That's singing in the background of that music. Is that you?
00:30:05
Speaker
Yeah. Is it? I'm singing. Is it a dopamine hit or a burnout thing? Oh, play again.
00:30:16
Speaker
There we go. All right. Listen up. Is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing? Superb.
00:30:26
Speaker
And then... Absolute banger. Absolute banger. And I kind ah come in straight after that and go, soup, is it ah is is it a dopamine hit or is it a burnout thing?
00:30:37
Speaker
Wow, that's almost on cue. All right, so ah are you going to do canned soup and and and and and I'll do like... Okay.
00:30:49
Speaker
Cooked soup. How but but about that that? That covers all our soup bases. Covers our soup bases, yes. yeah Can. All right. Dopamine hit on the canned soup.
00:31:02
Speaker
Oh, God, it depends. In the 70s, it was high. In the 70s? It was so much better when i I was young.
00:31:13
Speaker
Now I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. Oh, blimey. So I'd have to rate it. Yeah, wouldn't touch. I wouldn't touch canned soup with a barge pole now.
00:31:25
Speaker
Oh, right. Oh, blimey. No, no, wait. It's full of shit.
00:31:31
Speaker
it's full of shit it is full of some kinds of rubbish oh blimey all right well okay let's do you as a kid yes back in the 70s with cad soap don't put it in it it would be about a seven seven and a half oh that's 7.5
00:31:53
Speaker
um I will go ah the ah ah see ah soup's easy so that's good and the dopamine hit I think that the main dopamine hit is for me is is I've made it and it's in the fridge and I go oh shit I've got to eat something and I go oh yeah I made soup brilliant yes that for me is is like the kind of is is the main thing i would also say like it's a seven i think even even then it's like a seven i mean it's good but it's not like
00:32:34
Speaker
awesome you are magic i We had a bit of soup left over the other day from our kale and ginger. And after two days, my girlfriend threw it away. She said, no, it's no good anymore. becomes It becomes bitter.
00:32:49
Speaker
It's no good. No good, she said. No good. No good. She threw it away. Too big. Not for two days. Too big. and All right. oh And what about the burnout? out Well, post-1980s, burnout post-1980s, burnout score would be high pre nineteen eighty s yeah because
00:33:18
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i soon post nineteen eighty s at burnout school would be high because i wouldn't touch it Okay. But it would be low in the 70s and 80s. It would be, let's give it four.
00:33:33
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A four? I mean, like, honestly, i know. it It was your mum. who like got the yeah the the can out and then put it in the saucepan and served up. I mean, how much of a burnout picking up a spoon?
00:33:52
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No, because we've left out important aspect. In the 70s and the can openers were really shit. They were. And there was a risk of of quite insane levels of injury.
00:34:06
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all right, fair point. you remember? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were really, really vicious, those things. Yeah, they were. So there's an element of effort in the you know and danger.
00:34:20
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All right. So you have a three yeah for that, right? And then ah ah making your own soup fairly easy. if you If you do cook things on the regular like I do, then soup is like, oh, that's fucking brilliant because, you know, yeah I can do it with my eyes shut.
00:34:42
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I can literally shut my eyes, put my hands in the fridge and randomly pull out things and then shove it a pot and it's soup. um But even so, you've still got to chop shit ah and put the leftovers in bags and put them in the freezer for the stock for the next time. so i so solid it's ah it's a four.
00:35:02
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Okay. so So canned soup is easier if you lived in the nineteen seventy s um and you didn't have to use the can opener because your because your mum did it for you yes then that was the ideal soup ah era yes exactly it wasn't even if now the cans they now have a like some kind of really bad really bad um plastic lining inside the cans which are really bad for you apparently
00:35:35
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oh all right yeah um but you can get good soup out there but yeah soup and like if you if if you don't want to cook and you just get some canned soup it's just easy you know ah there we in the in the 90s in london soup was a big thing there there was a chain of soup places that opened up in the and i used to quite often go God, where was it? Oh, there was this place.
00:36:03
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can't remember where it was now, but there was a place to go for lunch and get it you know, the soup of the day. soup of the day. I'm not sure if it's around anymore.
00:36:14
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I don't remember it. Last time i was in London, I don't remember seeing anything. soal Oh, no. All right, well, let's jump in our tractor. Yes.
00:36:26
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And go the quiz. And head to Alexandra's Haunted Inn, and then we'll kind of do do some do some stuff.
00:36:38
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There. Let's get going. That's really well.
00:36:47
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It's so spooky. Haunted Inn. All right. So um I think what we've decided to do, right, Paul, just going forward is that we'll have a little mini quiz each week here
Quiz: Unusual Soup Varieties
00:37:04
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Alexandra's Haunted Inn, which is on the subject of the thing. And then whoever...
00:37:09
Speaker
Whoever does the topic that week does the quiz, right? Right. We've got a fixed format. A fixed format now.
00:37:20
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Yeah, we like this. Okay. We like that. Yeah. my My autism says I like fixed formats. um Shall I introduce the quiz, Martin?
00:37:31
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Go on. Okay. Well, it's based on, I went down a rabbit hole on varieties of um of Campbell's soup, tea soup.
00:37:44
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Well, actually also canned soup in general. like around the world, okay? Bear in mind that as of today, Campbell Soup have 90 different soups you can buy. 90. 90. 90, right? Wow.
00:38:01
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Yeah. In their history, they've produced over 250 varieties soup. Wow. Wow.
00:38:08
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ah we oh we we We should be sponsored by Heinz. should, shouldn't we? Give him a shout-out. Or Campbell's.
00:38:20
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All right. um Okay, so I've got the quiz, Martin. Yes, I'm ready. I'm going to give you a list of a list of three. Okay. They're all, actually all of them. They're all three questions, all based on real or made-up questions.
00:38:38
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soups um that actually existed, right? Existed? not In the past? Not just by Campbell's, but by all around the world, different places. Oh, Jesus Christ. All right. i've I've put some effort into this, mate. I can tell, mate.
00:38:54
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Well done. Okay. So the first three, okay, one of these is one of these, Martin, I've made up. Number one, cheeseburger soup.
00:39:07
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wow Made in the US by by Campbell's. It was a full cheeseburger in liquid form. Contained contained ground beef, cheese, tomato, pickles, and mustard flavouring.
00:39:21
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Cheeseburger soup. It sounds so like it would exist. right like Number two, pea and pecan soup. it's It's actually a canned soup available in Thailand. It's still available today. Okay.
00:39:39
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I like the sound of that. Number three, Baxter's, which is Scottish brand. Yeah. Roast beef and haggis soup. Soup. Okay.
00:39:52
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Yeah. Self-explanatory, that one. So either cheeseburger soup, pea and pecan soup, roast beef and haggis soup.
00:40:05
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I'm going to say, i'm going to have to say, because cheese cheeseburger soup sounds such like it has to happen at some point.
00:40:17
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um I think I'm going to go with the with the roast beef and and ha haggis. Okay. Because why have you got beef and haggis? because Because haggis is like... is is like It's like blood. So why why why why would you have like a ah those two combos? Seems like a really weird thing.
00:40:42
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Haggis is generally made of lambs in it and various bits. But also made of collagulated blood.
00:40:55
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blood as well yeah yeah and and it's very good by the way yeah I'm sure it is you're wrong Martin it is I made it up P and pecan soup I made that P and pecan wow P and pecan I actually thought that that sounded like an interesting combo yeah it's not bad is it think I'll have to try hmm o ah i I shall have some pecan nuts hanging around because we've got thanks because Thanksgiving is coming up.
00:41:28
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Pecan and pecan, if you can make that work, you're a genius. ah I will. I will let you know how it goes. Will I, right though? We might covered something special.
00:41:40
Speaker
Yeah. Or not. Next week. Okay. Ready for the next one? Yeah. One, alligator soup. Okay? It's a Cajun-style brand in the south of the US, southern, I guess, in southern parts of the US. Actual alligator meat, vegetables, spicy broth.
00:42:03
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as not bad but just very unexpected in a can very unexpected a can yeah very alligator soup okay two cream of kippah soup irish oh come on creep of kippah ah sounds Irish last year had only lasted about six months due to a lack of sales.
00:42:26
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It was discontinued. Right. So if but if you don't know what kipper is, it's basically so smoked haddock. Yes. what that is.
00:42:36
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Queen kipper. That sounds really nice. Doesn't it? Yeah. I'm in. I'm in. Okay. This one is a Wisconsin-based brand of soup. Cheese.
00:42:47
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Can soup. Cheese soup. Beer and cheese should soup. Beer and cheese. Well, if if it comes out of out of Wisconsin, of course it's going to cheese in it.
00:43:02
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Why? um it's it's the It's the cheese hub of America. isn it? um Yeah. In a good way. Good cheese. yeah Yeah, they have good cheese.
00:43:16
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yeah Well done, Wisconsin. All right, well, I'm going to say a cream of kippah sounds fantastic, but I'm not i'm not believing it, Paul.
00:43:30
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Does it sound like I made it up? It does. You're right. I did make it up. I just like the way it sounded, cream of kippah. Sounds gorgeous, mate.
00:43:41
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I'm in. Yeah. Okay. I like it. All right. you've won your level so far. Yeah, I know, right? Lost one and won one. one Yeah. Okay.
00:43:53
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Last chance. Okay. It's all on this. Yeah, right. The pressure. Okay. Yeah. Number one, cream of banana soup. It was actually 1960s Campbell soup.
00:44:08
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A short-lived oddity intended for using casseroles and tropical recipes. So that's the thing with they say with Campbell's soup.
00:44:19
Speaker
Because they're condensed, you could actually use them in to like make use them as a source for any other kind of, for a casserole if you wanted to as well, apparently. Right. Cream of banana. Okay.
00:44:32
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Okay. Okay. Number but two, this is a Chinese soup. Okay. Long Fung soup, which translates as Dragon Phoenix soup. All right. traditional chio Chinese soup made with chicken and snake.
00:44:47
Speaker
Oh, okay. Okay. and Yeah. Chicken snake. Okay. Chicken and snake. Okay. Last one, spicy wings and peanut soup.
00:45:00
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Another American soup. Discontinued, apparently, in 1984 after just 10 months. No one wanted it. okay So, cream of banana, dragon phoenix soup, spicy wings and peanut soup. All right. Well, ah i have I have had... when ah When I lived in Beijing, they would eat they would- eat snake.
00:45:27
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um That was a thing. um And so I believe that. So um I believe that the spicy wings and... ah and Peanuts, I totally believe that as well.
00:45:42
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um Cream of banana though, it's like, I want condensed banana in a can. If if if you could just do that, that'd be awesome.
00:45:56
Speaker
But I don't, i've I've never come across that. So, ah that yeah, that one seems like. You sounded confused, Marty. Do you want me to repeat them? No, no. I'm just saying that ah cream of of banana is is, you've made it up, mate.
00:46:12
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Are you sure? No, but i'm but that's where I'm going with it. That's where I'm going. It's wrong. made up of the spicy wings and the peanuts. Oh.
00:46:25
Speaker
This cream of banana soup does exist. It made by Campbell's in the 1960s. I want a can. I want a can, but...
00:46:34
Speaker
for for for some other nefarious uses. um All right. Just so you Campbell's, right like today, have one soup called white cheddar cheese soup.
00:46:51
Speaker
White cheddar cheese soup. Yeah. And that's weird because why is that bizarre? Cheese soup. Yeah.
00:47:02
Speaker
to soup There's another one called car garlic parmesan with herbs. Sounds good. film You're surprised. There's another one.
00:47:14
Speaker
New England clam chowder soup. Oh, fantastic. that is That is so good. I could go on if you want to. No. Probably won't. Okay.
00:47:26
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Creamy chicken and dumpling soup.
00:47:30
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ah you Are you just going to lift off list off soups now? For about the next half an hour. All right. Settle in, everyone. Just settle in, everyone. Yeah, yeah. that's it, Martin. That's it.
00:47:44
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All right. Very nice. All right, so I lost this one. You lost the quiz. I can't remember last week. ah ah Did I win or lose? I don't know. Did i think you lose? Oh, yeah.
00:47:57
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we're not lose oh I think, oh, I don't know. I can't remember. I will have to go back and look just just so that we can keep a tally. Yeah, can't remember. um All right.
00:48:11
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well ah Well, let's look at the feedback. So um aeg ah Alexander's left a a note for us. um Yeah, she she she definitely pulled pulled you up on the ah on that episode where we're talking about dinosaurs. And I said that you should watch Ghostbusters.
00:48:35
Speaker
um um and and ah And you haven't yet. No, I haven't. So that's on your two did to-do list. And and just interestingly enough, I was in the conversation and and the Muppets of Treasure Island, I put on on her to-do list. Oh, okay.
00:49:01
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Fast Muppets.
00:49:03
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Anything to do the Muppets is good for me. ah that's That's a great, great film. um And she also said on the episode about dinosaurs, I think I've told you, Martin, my favorite is Triceratops, which is like awesome.
00:49:22
Speaker
And she really likes the ocean dinosaurs. Oh, and we had a conversation where we talking about Flintstones a lot, right? Yeah. Flintstones meet Flintstones. And one of the characters is cool is called Pebbles.
00:49:40
Speaker
Yes. And she lives in Greece. And she says that that Pebbles in Greek was called stryphos.
00:49:50
Speaker
Stalitsa. Stalitsa. Yeah, that's probably saying it better than me. So so so Pebble's character was called Stalitsa, which literally means a small drop, but we use it to describe something tiny. And the word stalactites includes the word stalla, which in Greek means drop. Okay.
00:50:14
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So a small drop, a small tiny drop, which is which isar but which which which I thought wasla was a really nice trans translation of the word pebble, right? Because if you're, because I was thinking, right, if you're if you have to do a Greek version of the Flintstones, right, and you have to rename yeah the the characters and you get to pebbles and you want a rocky, a rock name that has a rock red reference, but it has to be small, right?
00:50:44
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yeah she um Yeah, they they found an interesting word. Okay. I'm just looking at what they were called in Italian because the Italians have weird names for things.
00:50:59
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All right. a
00:51:02
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The Flintstones, the Flintstones. They're a spicy meatball family. Flintstones characters called in Italy.
00:51:23
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Here we go. Here we go. He's thinking. Right. Go on then. Oh, God. The Flintstones in Italy were called the ancestors.
00:51:37
Speaker
What? All right. Bizarre. Fred f Flintstone was called Fred Flintstone. All right. Wilma Flintstone was called Wilma Flintstone.
00:51:48
Speaker
Pebble's Flintstone was called Chotolina. Chotolina, little bowl. All right. A little bowl. Dino.
00:51:59
Speaker
It's called Dino. Barney. So the same. was the same in Italy. Everyone had the same name except for Pebbles, which is called Chocolina, a little bowl for the soup, I suppose.
00:52:12
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Well, there we go. Nice link. I like that. Come on. ah The things we learn.
00:52:23
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chtanna All right. um All right. so the So let's ah let's do your bit, which which is where you say ah your feedback.
00:52:36
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Yes, hang on a Oh, i mean get get get out of that. Close this window. Your feedback is vital to us. Vital to us.
00:52:47
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We read all your comments with the maximum of enthusiasm and excitement. and why ah That was i wish yeah was an example of it. If you'd like, please do. We love your feedback. So any feedback will devour it with the good pleasure.
00:53:06
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Yeah, and I have to thank our Minister of Snacks, Carol, for for doing a really nice, superb job of of doing some nice TikTok posts around around when our podcasts go out. so So thank you so much, Carol.
00:53:24
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All right, so it's my turn to pick next week's subject. Oh, you've left it blank, Martin. I'm correct, you've left it blank.
Next Topic Teaser: ADHD and Swearing
00:53:34
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I know, because because i actually quite like the sort element of surprise, like I kind of ah want that.
00:53:41
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want that little moment. um ah we were We were supposed to do, just just to just just to clear things up, we said that we were going to do art school yes and then you swapped out our school and and we did soup instead so so just in in case everyone was kind of going weren't they supposed to be doing that right yeah uh yeah we we we we did say that but but but in in our adhd uh yeah yeah yeah think uh episodes may swap out uh without you knowing about it so next week
00:54:20
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I thought would be good is ADHD and swearing. Okay. Swearing. Okay. Which, which, which, you know. It's fucking brilliant are there I think it's bloody awesome.
00:54:38
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Yeah. You bastard. You bastard. ah So, i see, already, see, I'm thinking it's it's it's it's going to be a really fun episode. It's talking too, because there was a comedian this week that on the BBC.
00:54:57
Speaker
um There was like a massive amounts calls into the BBC because she would she used the word cunt in it. Oh, yeah. yeah on the bbc i'm gonna have people went epileptic they went crazy all right wow that's nuts um uh yeah because i kind of feel like there is a bit of sort an uh i think people with adhd uh are good creative swearers and it's kind of like okay it sort of releases a lot of the yang yeah you know i i think that there is that that there is a lot of dopamine to be had swearing oh totally i think it could it's also falling to into the ah the realms of anger management as well right i feel like suppression of anger
00:55:50
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yeah and therefore suppression of anger masking blah blah blah yay like it be fucking awesome awesome yeah so ah if you're if if if if you're up for ah for a really sweary episode next next week we can yeah we can provide adh dville with fifty percent more swearing Hey, family fun.
00:56:21
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00:56:49
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00:57:01
Speaker
Where's that? Where's that? There, says the mayor. That's that. yeah there yeah that's upstairs There we go. Lovely. Housecleaning. I think I've got some... I don't know why I've got these.
00:57:17
Speaker
What's that? Pliers. you've got pliers. Is this like what random thing do you have on your desk? Clips.
00:57:29
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I have a tape measure. I've got a camera battery. All right. I have a torch. Wonderful.
00:57:40
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wonder if it works. Oh, it works. Clearly does. Clearly. Lovely.