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Episode 109 - ADHD & Dinosaurs. (Maybe Our Autism Is Showing)
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Welcome back to ADHDville! This week, hosts Paul and Martin (the ex-co mayors of ADHDville) are tackling a topic that's big, toothy, and full of dopamine: Dinosaurs! Why do these ancient creatures captivate the AuDHD mind so completely? Was it the 165 million years they ruled the Earth, or the thrill of discovering something massive and mysterious? The boys share their own dino-obsessed childhoods, from bedtime books and trips to the Natural History Museum to dreams of becoming paleontologists. They discuss everything from the Flintstones' smoking habits and fossilized footprints to a special "spooky dinosaur quiz." Strap in for a fun, funny, and deeply relatable look at one of the most classic neurodivergent interests.
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Welcome to ADHDville, the podcast where hosts Paul and Martin bring 40 years of friendship to your ears. As late-diagnosed adults, they explore the ADHD world with fun, games, and the occasional guest—no boring lectures, just a comfortable and hilarious conversation you’d have with old friends. A new episode drops every Tuesday to make your week brighter!
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Theme music was written by Freddie Philips and played by Martin West. All other music by Martin West.
Please remember: This is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals.
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Transcript
Welcome to ADHDville
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Hello. Oh, blimey. Here we are. Back in the room. Back in the room. Thank goodness for that. Oh, and we're... Oh. And we hope that you're all out there with your favourite snack and your favourite beverage.
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Yes. And that you're in a room with Paul and me. Oh. So, let's go to the place where the distractions, the landmarks and the details are on the main roads. Welcome to ADHDville.
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Nice, I like that.
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I liked the Flintstones. the best thing. was good. It was good. It was good. i know. know. It was the first, apparently, did a bit of reading on the Flintstones.
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Yeah. It's connected to this week's subject. It was the first cartoon in America that went out during primetime television in the States. Amazing.
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There we go. um All right. Anyway. so Now it's over to you to introduce ourselves. Yes.
Meet the Hosts
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Hello. I'm Paul Thompson. I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD a bunch of years ago.
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And I'm Martin West, and I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD poo-poo platter in 2013. And we start off in the local pub in ADHDville, the King's Agitated Head, where we, the ex-co-mayors of ADHDville, take care of business.
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And this week, it was my it was bite topic. Your
ADHD and Dinosaurs
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turn. yeah Yeah. And we' um we're going to talk about ADHD and dinosaurs. Roar!
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r ra Get your claws out. Right, exactly. Jurassic Park. It's a massive steve park.
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well For those that don't know it, that comes from there's a comedian that did a did some stand-up and he he did he kind of envisaged... andvisageed um a West End musical that was based on Jurassic Park.
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Jurassic Park. Oh, it was brilliant. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? yes Absolute genius he is. You can find it on YouTube.
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If you look up on on YouTube, if you do... nine out of ten cats and then dash
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theme tune to ah Jurassic Park. You'll find it. All right. Well, then, I think we're going to... Right, then. where Where should we head off to? I'm glad you asked that, Martin. I suggest we go to the coffee shop, Martin.
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Right. Well, let's just jump in the tractor. Ah. and make our way there. we go. trusty A trusty tractor.
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Boing, boing, boing, boing. I'm going to have a green tea, as always.
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What about you? think I'm going to have something, what's it called? Oh, like Jesus, I can't remember what is in English. Canelo in Italian.
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I have no idea. You know, Gary Bordy biscuits have them. It's a spice. Oh, right. Cinnamon? Raising the cinnamon. Cinnamon. I'm going to have like a cinnamon hot drink.
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Nice. You know what had? ah There's a newish coffee place up the road from me and and I had a, i it was a banana pudding chai latte, which was very nice. That sounds all right.
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I quite like that. like um On the cinema theme, you can buy very good cinema biscuits at Ikea. All right. All right. Just saying. I rate their meatballs.
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and Do you? they rate yours? Yes.
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They've never, you know what, I'm not i' not sure that I've ever made, yeah, no, I've made meatballs before at least once. Okay. so um and So I never posted any off to Ikea. I should have done. Right.
00:05:04
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I should have done. I should have said. Put it on your bucket list. Yeah, right. I should have said, look, I know that you like your own meatballs, but, mate, check out my English meatballs.
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Right. I mean, there's probably in the address you could send it to Tupperware. ah yeah I suggest Tupperware. i'm i'm i'm i'm I'm on it. All right. let's let's Let's herd ourselves back.
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So ah we're going to talk about dinosaurs, which, yeah you know, um I know that this crosses over a lot with kind of autism and special interests, but hell, why not?
Childhood Dinosaur Memories
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I think the... not? the the I think a lot of kids get interested in in in in dark dinosaurs, not not just boys.
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But um it's, I can, just to go back in time, i can remember, was trying when I first kind of like saw one.
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And I think yeah it was when I saw one hour out in the wild. In the wild. Yeah. yeah um It would have been my my birthday because my parents for a while on my birthday would take me up to the Natural History Museum in London.
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a And that's where I would have seen a big dinosaur bones there. Right. And that is a gorgeous building, right? Natural to his History Museum.
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it's got some it's got There's a reason for it because when it was being built... by the Victorians, Darwin had just come out with this theory about ah evolution.
00:06:59
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Yes. Queen Victoria has said, no mate, what you talking about? What are you talking about? You're having a laugh. Stop that nonsense. ah So they built... You're having a laugh, son. Stop it.
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So they built the the Natural History Museum as it as if it's... a a church, its it's like a church kind of spirit to it. There is no nature, animals, all of that kind of thing, right? It's all related to God.
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So you go into the museum and you have the distinctive presence. It's like a a cathedral to nature. There It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous, Nick.
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Gorgeous, man. I took my son when he was about three years old He was in a pram still. We went in to the Natural History Museum, and there it was. He was like it's still in the pram. He was looking up at the life-size, full-scale Tyrannosaurus rex that was animated, so it had moving parts, and it would occasionally go, rah, like that. right yeah He'd never seen anything like it before.
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He pointed up at it, and he said, duck. ah Large duck. That's the nearest thing he'd seen in his life terms proportions.
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Right. Well, mean, he's not wrong because obviously this urgeging i mean birds evolved out of dinosaurs. So yes he's not wrong.
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He's not wrong. I'm just saying. That's wrong, some would say. Smaller aquatic dinosaurs. Yeah. i and that that that That is such such a fun story.
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um i just sit i reminded him of that this week. powers. asked him if they improved after 23 years. I don't know.
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and i asked to be that they improved after twenty three years i but That's what he said. Yes, they have. Thank you for asking. That's good to know.
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Good to know as he's a nurse. um Right. That's a good point. I could ah can rim remember like I had a small de a small dinosaur book that I went to bed with and my And I read it every night.
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like And my my goal was to kind of get to the end of the book b before I fell asleep. And mean it was a fairly small book, but I mean, like I just read it over and over and over and over and over and had all my favorites in it.
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You read the same book many, many times? Oh, God, yeah. Absolutely. Really? Yeah. Okay. But look at the pictures. i mean, so this book would have been a classic book.
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um u like ABC book dinosaur book I mean it was kind of yeah it was it was fairly fairly uh brief but um but but yeah it was I loved it I loved it and then i think one of the things about dinosaurs is is that which which I kind of like is that They're kind of half real and half not real.
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Like there are, they are kind of like these monsters and these crazy, crazy animals. Yeah. Yeah. um the that are not anything like like we we have today, but but yet, you know, like we can go to a yet and museum and we can see yes bones and they and they they existed. That's kind of, there is something really kind of visceral. Oh, totally. Oh, I love them.
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ah Whenever there's a new discovery of them, of dinosaurs, I'm always fascinated, right? I think there's there's there's one very recently, about what about four or five days ago, one of the biggest dinosaurs ever found.
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I love that idea of, you know, I imagine myself doing that job and uncovering this enormous shin bone. And just think, how big is this one going to get? You know, as you're like peeling away the mud with ah with a scalpel.
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felt fit for four months. Right. Just for a shin bone. I used to... um ah yeah that's That's the job that I wanted to have.
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Like, I wanted to be an and archaeologist. Like, that was my first... If I could think of, like, ah the first men job. I remember that about you, actually. oh Jesus, how long have How long have known you?
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I mean, I think that was, like, when I was, like, seven... No, I remember you talking about it years years ago. Maybe, probably. Sounds about right. Going on and on about and on.
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No, I'm kidding. But do, I remember you mentioning it. in it in it All right. Yeah, yeah. No, I wanted to. I wanted to. And then that's kind of like, I think that's where I ended up.
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Yeah. I would get into like rocks and fossils. so So I would go fossil hunting. have have you Have you ever been fossil hunting? Have you found a fossil?
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um on I found a fossil in in ah in a shop once for sale. Oh, right. Yeah. There was a shop in London called, it's still there, called Lasko's.
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It's in Shoreditch. It's freaking amazing. I once saw a fossil in there, it huge, of ah of a reptile. It was for sale for about £40,000. Wow.
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wow It was about two metres long. And I remember every time, it took a while to get sold. But I kept going past it. I used to go in there in my lunch hour with my sandwiches.
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Mm-hmm. Just stand in front
Dinosaurs vs Humans: A Long History
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of it. yeah Go on. Have a bite. Go on. You haven't eaten for ages. Go on. It's pastrami. You like pastrami.
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You should eat something. I can see your bones.
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Then his mum piped in, I've been telling him for years.
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oh Yeah, then fossils burn. Yeah, yeah i've never being ah very I've never actually gone out and found my own fossils in nature.
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Oh, right. Yeah, because I got into it into rocks and fossils and then I got into school and then I picked ah then i picked a ge ah picked a geology as like as one of the um as bottom my subjects. so So well i I did that for a bunch of years.
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ah And we had our teacher, he was like, You know, days those teachers that just kind of scared you because, you know, and if you pushed them, they would like suddenly just turn around and they would oh and that throw the chalk at you.
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And then they would turn red and they'd they'd scream at you and you were like... freaking scared so for me it was my technical drawing teacher he would do that so you with rocks you've got something common with Jennifer Lopez yeah don't Jenny from the block don't look at the rocks that I've got I'm still Jenny from the block Rob, well, I'm clearly into fossils.
00:15:16
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Well, I'm more the anti-version because ah because ah I want you to little look at my rocks. Oh, okay.
00:15:27
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At my rock collection as it is. That's very generous of you. I know. so the So then ah when we got to 16, you left school at 16, right?
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six sixteen right Yeah, more or less, one left straight after GCSEs. Right, and then now I stayed on it for another two years, and I did get and and i did the geology for another two years quite intensively.
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and And when I went for my first geology lesson, and when I went back into the new term, ah my ji might My geology teacher was the nicest guy in the world. He turned from this angry person to this lovely, lovely, amazing guy.
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And I think it was because... um ah up till 16 we had to do it but at 16 to 18 we chose to do it and that was a whole different yeah and it was like i a captive captive audience instead of all just a random audience Well, it was just like, i chose you.
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and it was like, ah, come to me, my my special people. And then, and then i ah yeah, and he would show me all the fossils and he was great. i loved him. He was a good lad.
00:16:56
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Mr. Livington, I salute you, sir. um like Come on down. Right. And then so so like I just really got into into rocks.
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and And I actually have... yeah i do actually have Yeah, and we would go out on um geology field trips and go fossil hunting.
00:17:20
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That was great. Do you still have some rocks? because, you know, like I've i've left, I used to, you know, like when you kind of move house and you move house and you move house and you move house and things just gradually just drift off into the world.
00:17:38
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Totally. They've all kind of gone. I've moved 23 times. Oh, you counted? Yeah. Yeah. i've left I've moved house 23 times, which is a lot.
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That is a lot. That is a lot. um All right. Talking of a lot, talking of a lot, dinosaurs are a lot. yeah Right?
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I love that. They're like big, right? They're big and they're clumsy and a bit toothy. well But were they? We have this like For me, I was digging into like met this perception that they're big and clumsy and they're a lot, right? A bit toothy, you know, their limbs slightly out of proportion, you know. Yeah, small brains. Even they're like out of proportion with trees.
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Trees were tree should have been a lot bigger, shouldn't they? But no. Right. And so I thought, know, I've looked into this. Dinosaurs existed.
00:18:41
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this in context. I know you're begging for that. but Dinosaurs existed for 165 million freaking years. Right? 165 million years.
00:18:55
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We, me and you, Martin, or humans, modern humans in general, we've had existed for only 300,000 years. So dinosaurs were but were around for 500 times longer than we have so far.
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Wow. 500 times longer. Good for them. Put that context. If the Earth's history was 24-hour day, 24-hour day,
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dinosaurs rule for about one hour and 30 minutes. Right. We humans, we've existed just for just a few seconds before midnight. We've got a lot of catching up to do.
00:19:38
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Yes, exactly. Will we do it? I suspect not. I suspect not either. So, i mean, like, what what was your, did you have like a favorite a favorite with dinosaur?
00:19:52
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it It was the T-Rex, but mainly because of, ignorance it was like the easy one right you know yeah yeah it's a classic it's the easy one do like the pterodactyl because they flew oh yeah very nice things like scary you know dinosaurs that fly that's scary So like that.
00:20:16
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Yeah, yeah. You know what? Thinking of that T-Rex, whenever I open up a book, no no not every book, but the classic illustration of the T-Rex was always there's like one or two just kind of hanging there, and then they look, and then they're looking behind them almost and up, and then there's this and there's this sort of a meteor come coming in, like, in the sky. Okay.
00:20:48
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Right. Have you been doing... Have you been popping LSD, Martin? No. I mean, because the in ah because the dinosaurs were wiped out by a a meteor,
The Meteor and Dinosaur Extinction
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right? Yes.
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Yes. It seemed to be like they really liked that image of the T-Rex, who was the king. So he was like the king of everything. And then he was like hanging around and just like, ooh, what's that little bright spark in in the sky? That looks interesting.
00:21:23
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And then there's a sort of a meteor coming coming down to extinct them all. Okay. Right. Have you ever heard that ADHDs have the T-Rex arms?
00:21:38
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Have ever heard that? yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where does that come from? What, that actual terminology? I've never heard anyone flesh that out as a concept.
00:21:52
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Oh, well, it's a it's a stimming thing. So it's a self-regulating thing. Because I think I do it. I do that occasionally. doing it now. yeah If you're watching this on YouTube, um to do tellly I do that occasionally that occasionally.
00:22:10
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. Especially in in in bed or like you know like when you're kind of chilling out. Right. Or if you're going into the the kind of sleeping position. Mm-hmm.
00:22:28
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Right. Tonight, Jeremy, I'm going to sleep as a T-Rex. Of course. um my my ah all Although the T-Rex was my favorite, I think, ah you know that classic, there was always a, in every illustration book, there was the classic battle of the T-Rex and the Tristeratops.
00:22:54
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you know, the herbivore with ah with the yeah the shield and the big pointy sharp things at the front. Horns.
00:23:05
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There we go. Horns. Thank you for that scientific term, Paul. Yes. You're welcome. ab ah Yeah, so they would always have ah have a battle.
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And I think there's even like an an early 50s, 40s, maybe even earlier film, sort black and white stop an animation film where they had like those those two going at it.
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I was always a more of a plant-based person. So i can i would model one of my favourite plants is the fern. And apparently the ferns were around when the dinosaurs were around.
00:23:45
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Yeah. You know they were like buddies. They were mates. They were mates. They used to go to parties together, you know. Yeah, and I think the T-Rex would then sort of roll up the firm and and have a smoke.
00:24:00
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And chill out. Yeah. right Yeah, man. It's good shit.
00:24:08
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yeah Well, they might have done. That explains the shape somewhat. Especially those New Zealand ones, the ferns you get in New Zealand. They're kind of like spliff shaped.
00:24:19
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Oh, are they? I've never seen them. They can't grow in columns. All right. I have some ferns that have started to grow in my back garden.
00:24:30
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I love a fern. which Which I'm quite happy about. Love fern. Yeah. The problem is trying to grow fern in the house, they just turn into, they die, basically.
00:24:41
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I've never managed to have one survive indoors. All right. I mean, we were speaking about the Victorians earlier, and they were obsessed with ferns.
00:24:52
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They were obsessed with ferns. They would go nuts for them. They would go nuts for them. Nuts for ferns. Yeah, like rare ferns. They would travel the globe. but In fact, i'm um I'm half suspecting that the entire the the entire British Empire was basically just a huge fern-gathering exercise. Right.
00:25:16
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There's that really cool American comedy series between... Between two ferns. Oh, yeah. with um Interviews with famous people was funny. They just take the piss out each other.
00:25:29
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Yeah. Yeah. That's very cool. It is very nice. Especially the one with personal, personally big fan of his, Matthew McConaughey.
00:25:40
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Oh, right. Yeah. Anywho, back to back to dinosaurs. Yeah, because Matthew McConaughey's got nothing to do with dinosaurs. mar He has not appeared in Jurassic Park yet.
00:25:56
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Not yet. um Which I did like that film, by the way. eight five've Yes, I have seen it. Because I like Laura Dern.
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All right.
00:26:11
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Yeah, she's definitely in it. Yeah, she's kind of a cool chick. Yeah, yeah, um yeah. Yeah, she's cool. All right. if if you get Any other like crazy little... taton I mean, like one of my... Go on.
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I've got some stuff about the Flintstones, Martin. I know we talked about it at the top of the programme. Are they dinosaurs? Yeah. Oh, go on then. Go on then. Yeah. me some Flintstones.
00:26:38
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I've got some facts, odd facts about the Flintstones.
The Flintstones and Historical Norms
00:26:42
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Of course you I just loved the Flintstones. all and He basically worked in in ah in a stone quarry, right?
00:26:50
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Yeah. And I always loved his cars, the cars they had. Yes. were just like not cars at all. were just like running inside this frame. Yeah. With like like rocks for wheels.
00:27:03
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Mm-hmm. Just the best. Anyway, apparently, it's got some facts here about about it. It held the longevity record. It remained the longest running primetime animated series for 30 years up until The Simpsons came along.
00:27:19
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Wow. When they broke the record. Okay. Yeah. Fred Flintstone and Barney once did cigarette commercials.
00:27:30
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Oh, think I knew that. In the 1960s, the characters were actually appeared in Winston cigarette ads. Can you imagine? That is so cool. That's funny.
00:27:41
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that That was when smoking was cool. Oh, you know what? I think ah think there was there was backlash about that because because it was a kid's cartoon and they were smoking, that that was not that that the that there was a bit of controversy that you're trying to sell tobacco to kids.
00:28:08
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I remember now. It's coming back to Turns out they had a point, you know. ah they had they They had a point. Don't smoke kids. Turns out. Don't smoke kids out there. All the kids listening.
00:28:19
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Mm-hmm.
00:28:22
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Okay, but that's pretty – what else have I got? Pebbles, the baby, supposed to be a boy. Okay. Right. Okay. But a toy company convinced them that to make a baby girl – to make to me more money, would be better if it was ah a girl.
00:28:43
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it was supposed to be a boy. They made it a girl to make more money because girls buy baby. Girl babies, not boy babies. Right. I guess that makes sense. There you see I'm thinking, I'm not planning on having more children, but if I have another child, I call it Pebbles.
00:29:03
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And not Bam Bam? Oh, Yeah. Bam Bam Pels, yeah. God, those were the days. We were proper names. problem Proper kids' names. Proper names.
00:29:16
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Did you ever, I think had this conversation, did you ever wish you had a different name? ah Yes, yes. We've had this conversation, yeah. Yeah. think it was one of the first episodes we talked about it, if not the first.
00:29:29
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Maybe. don't know. I can't remember, but yeah. Yeah. Maybe like dinosaurs, we should have like a proper Latin name as well.
Dinosaur Names and Footprints
00:29:40
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yes So we're commonly known as Paul right or Martin, but there should be like a Latiny name. like ah Martinus dilapidus.
00:29:52
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paulus chaoticus. paulus chaoticus Like that. Yeah. Right. Okay.
00:30:03
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i'm All right. um Okay. I've been mindful when I'm reincarnated. Right. So ah if you want. I've never believed in reincarnation ever since I was a frog. I've never believed in it.
00:30:17
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Jesus Christ. oh um um Yeah, so if you want your Latin name, then get in the comments and just say what your first name is, and then we'll give you a an official ADHD Latin name that that you can go go go forth with. yeah And for an extra cross, we'll tattoo it on on some part of your body.
00:30:46
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in Bic Biro. Yeah. I mean, just to kind of get back onto dinosaurs a again, this is like herding, this is like herding velociraptors, this is.
00:31:00
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um But I think, like, one of the one of the nice things about them is that there's is that you can really deep dive on them you can really like you can really you know they're yeah if you're really info centric and you really want to create a special interest around them so is yeah There is a lot to kind of to kind of get get your head around. And it's always evolving.
00:31:29
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So as you were saying, like like they just they dis dis discover stuff all the time. so there's yeah so So while you're learning about something, there'll be a piece of news coming in from here, from there, yeah the the kind of up...
00:31:44
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dates you so you know it's quite a quite an quite quite and and an interesting ADHD slash all or autistic thing to be interesting yeah because like and you could endlessly obsess on it yeah yeah like I've always obsessed with how come dinosaur footprints um we can still see them today how the hell You know, does that happen?
00:32:13
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Right. Yeah, I know. um I don't get it. Well, I can get that a dinosaur dies and it becomes fossilized. Okay. But a dinosaur footprint is a stretch.
00:32:27
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So what has to happen is that it will walk across usually like a beach. If you can imagine like a beach or a shore, right? So the ground's quite soft. So it like plods along.
00:32:43
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but but bit bri And then there has to be an event after that where maybe there's a flood. say say there's a Or a volcanic eruption. something right so it's usually like all this all this material comes in this fine ma material and then almost just like fills up that whole thing yes it's like plaster casting yes right so okay yeah that yeah 58 years i've been confused about that
00:33:17
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All right, well, it it only took like six years of cheup j ah chitic geology educat education. So, yeah, so those two years. Mr. Leamington, you'll be proud.
00:33:29
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It's good say to know you didn't waste those years. Exactly, for this moment, on this pod, on this episode. Marvellous. Marvellous. All right, well, if you if you haven't got anything else, then um um um I'm going to take us to... That's my lot for dinosaurs.
00:33:46
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All right. And therefore, let me take us to the ratings. All right.
00:33:58
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Dinosaurs, are they a dopamine hit or are they a burnout thing? Jesus, is's hard to it's hard to think of them being a burnout at So how much a dopamine hit are dinosaurs for you, Paul?
00:34:18
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Essentially a lot more. I could see myself also being an archaeologist. or What's a paleontologist? What's the difference between paleontologist and an archaeologist?
00:34:32
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archaeologist I think an archaeologist can basically dig up anything. So you could be an archaeologist and dig dig around you know but Saxon villages or Roman compounds. Yes, that's a good point. Well put.
00:34:49
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ah pay I can imagine myself being a paleontologist very much and getting a massive, potentially a massive dopamine hit out it. But because I haven't been a paleontologist, I'll give it a solid seven.
00:35:02
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Oh, okay. With a potential much higher. um I'm just remembering, like, um ah just to kind of give some nice um ah women history,
Mary Anning and Paleontology
00:35:17
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picking up women. and um You know, ah in but in the south coast, in Dorset, there was a a young girl,
00:35:26
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um who discovered all of the, dar not all of them, but but she discovered a lot of marine of of marine dinosaurs. and and And I'm just kind of struggling to is ah think of her name off the top of my head, so I'm going Google this while I'm while i'm what i'm speaking.
00:35:48
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but so My ex-wife, she was from Loworth Cove. Dorset. Dorset fossil woman.
00:36:00
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What was it? Oh, there we go. Mary Anning, 1779 to 1847, English fossil collector.
00:36:12
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ah done Okay. so um she so So she was on hard times, and ah and ah her dad died early because... because um he was also a fossil hunter. and And then I think that he actually fell off the the cliff and died. lying um And she carried on and she became this expert, right, on fossils. Like she was like, she could find them. She she knew a lot about them.
00:36:40
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And she would send them up to the to the old crusty men, the but the the British royal fossil... bunch of arseholes and um and they were like no no no a woman can't doesn't know anything about our field or whatever um and uh they didn't really accept her until um until later on when they kind of went oh hang on a second she knows a thing or two and then thenda then but yeah so big props to marianning well done
00:37:20
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Reminds me of this women and NASA story. Oh, yeah. Not being allowed into NASA. Right. Fantastic. Until Barack Obama came along and and gave them if them medals, well-deserved medals for how important women were for the Apollo 13 mission stuff like that, that they don't get a look in, don't get mention.
00:37:42
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Right, absolutely. All right, so my dopamine score for dinosaurs, um I mean, it's like a sort of a, Nine. It's going to be out there. Nine nine out of 10. Oh, solid.
00:37:57
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And a burnout score of zero. No, there's no burnout. Right. There's no burnout. Well, because the ice age, wasn't there? It's the ice age that killed off the dinosaurs.
00:38:09
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So you can hardly have a burnout during the ice age. Right. That's my logic. All right. But I think it was the ah the Ice Age came a lot.
00:38:22
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A lot. OK. Time after. So the... the the um Anyway, all right. So, great. All right. Well, if you have got some favorite dinosaurs, get in the comments. Let us know what they are. Yes, let us know.
00:38:41
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Tell us where we went wrong or the facts that we screwed up in. Who knows? um All right. So, let us… That's unlikely. I think we're quite precise with our facts. Yeah.
00:38:52
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We are quite precise, don't you know? We're quite precise, quite, you know, methodical, would say, even. Absolutely. Quite methodical. um ah Well, let's jump in the in the in the tractor and let's head over to Alexander's Holted Inn. Okay. Get Well, we're
00:39:13
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off now. Touch of butter. Yeah. away
00:39:24
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Spooky haunted in? Yes. We've got some feedback from Alessandra Martin. All right. She's watching our last episode about about so Halloween, and she's going on and on like you did about that.
00:39:41
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I've got watch Ghostbusters, apparently. Come on. I suppose I'll have to watch it now, won't I'll have to watch it. I mean, what's not to like? You've got Bill Murray. You've got a great cast. You've got... Okay, um i'll just I'll try.
00:40:00
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Just a fun roll-up.
00:40:07
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And apparently, the way I was made up with stuff, I looked like Coco from for but i mean from a, what's it what's his name's films? Oh, yeah.
00:40:19
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Yeah, the, the yeah. oh Oh, I've got one of his books. umve I don't know. Anyway. Blimey. Anyway, yes.
00:40:36
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And at the Haunted Inn. So that'd be cool. Quiz night at the Haunted Inn. Right. Maybe we could do an episode that the whole episode is like a long version of the quiz and and maybe be even contribute towards questions.
Interactive Trivia and Myths
00:40:57
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Mm-hmm. I like that. Yeah. um um i i Yeah. All right. That sounds sounds sounds sounds good. um Also, we have a yeah a a another um comment from Carol.
00:41:18
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um And she says, Halloween is my favorite time of year because it's essentially a time of year. It's okay to be weird in inverted comments. um i i I've gone out as KFC Picnic.
00:41:33
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So these are some of the costumes. KFC Picnic. so yes figure but got So that's quite an interesting one, just holding your head for a second. like Oh, you know what? i think it is. i think it's like sort of a bucket, perhaps. You know, like a KFC bucket.
00:41:51
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It's probably like a big bucket costume. And your head poking out. Your head poking out with drumsticks and stuff. Right. That's how I would do it.
00:42:02
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um And a rave hooper. I don't want a rave hooper, but sort of a raver, maybe, like a sort of a a Viking queen.
00:42:17
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Or maybe it's rave hopper. Hopper? A dancing queen. oh yeah yeah queen yeah she wrote two o's but i think she wanted was supposed to write two p's maybe she's heavy on the o's and not heavy enough on the p's um and then she went as me mid mid mid magenta from rocky horror picture show and who was who is that was that um the marvelous um What's her name?
00:42:48
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The actress. Because we didn't talk about the Rocky Horror Show last week. Fantastic. I'm not a big musical person, but what an amazing creation that was.
00:43:01
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ah Yeah, she was but portrayed by per but Patricia Quinn, and she is the domestic servant and an alien from the planet Transsexual.
00:43:14
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Okay. Yes. And the actor that played Rocky Horror was Tim. No, not Tim. Yes, Tim something.
00:43:25
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Amazing actor. Unfortunately, not very well these days. What an amazing actor. Tim Curry is the... Yes, Tim Curry.
00:43:36
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What an amazing performance. Outstanding. Just amazing. I love him in the Muppets, Treasure treasure Island, which is ah okay yes yes which which is a fine film.
00:43:53
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Very fine. I've seen that film, Martin. um i've I've seen it like a billion times. Okay. and Upstage, lads. This is my only number. um Yes, I can quote it.
00:44:07
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um um You know what? I think we have time. um Seeing as Alexandra said that that we could have a spooky trivia night, I thought, oh, I wonder if I could just do a quick quiz, three-question.
00:44:31
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ah wow. You've got a quiz? i I have a quiz. Bring it on. If you would like a quiz, I have a question. All right, well, let's let's just do a bit of um spooky quiz music. I'm just going to read it behind me because I just found out just just just before we came on air that I could play the keyboard that's behind me and it comes out onto the podcast.
00:44:59
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So here we go Here we go. Quiz. Quiz. Oh, hang on. No. That didn't sound good. Let's just do more quizzy. know That's quizzy.
00:45:17
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There are. That's a little bit more quiz-like. All right. That is very quizzy. Well done. All right. so i So this is just three questions with three possible answers.
00:45:28
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um And as we're talking... No, on the theme of dinosaurs. Okay, sorry. So so i would I would keep it...
00:45:40
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So i'm um I'm keeping it in theme with this. Oh, on theme. Yes, I'm keeping it on theme. So and ah as Alexandra is a Greek, I also gave it a a Greek theme as well.
00:45:57
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Wow. That's niche. ah nation I know, right? So here we go. Question number one. Greek traders once heard tales of lion-bodied, eagle-headed creatures guarding gold in the deserts of Central Asia.
00:46:15
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Many historians now think those myths began when ancient miners stumbled across the fossilised bones of what dinosaur? So when we're thinking about um um those myths, I'm thinking it's like a sort of griffin.
00:46:36
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know was Right, yes. yeah that That kind kind of thing. ah right So so um did they think that it was the fossilized bones of Protoseratops, which is like the kind of early version of the Triceratops. So instead of having...
00:46:55
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Two horns. It has like just one horn at the front. Okay. Was it a cut down on the weight, right? Why carry around the kebab skewer? Why bother with a fork when all you need is ah is ah is a bottle opener?
00:47:12
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Yeah. single horn. Right. Yeah. boho yeah All right. So is it a protoceratops, a B, a velociraptor, or C, a triceratops?
00:47:28
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I'm going to go the first one. And you'd be right. Yes. Because cause you laboured the description of the first one. All right. You put a little bit too emphasis on it.
00:47:40
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I was talking about it a lot. I gave it away. I literally chose it for that reason. Hey, mate, that's basically how how I get through these.
00:47:52
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I know. Wait. I know you too well. Exactly. There we go. um Yes, so the big skull and frill of ah of the Protoceratops matched the mythic, the mythic, the mythic, the mythic, the mythic Griffins description almost perfectly. Right. So all of these questions going really come out of the the the the idea that ancient Greek legends and some of those creatures came out of,
00:48:25
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Okay, nice. Based on reality. Mythological, but based on something they dug up in the garden.
00:48:36
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Yeah, they were out in the garden. Or the beach. digging up their kebabs or whatever it is. And then turkish are they they would they would find they would find you know a large bone or something. And then that kind of like ah kind of prompted story. So question number two. Yeah.
00:48:58
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Ancient Greeks found massive skulls with a single large hole in the center of their face and believed they were the remains of Cyclops.
00:49:09
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You know, the um the yeah the the one-eyed giant. but ah What animal do scientists now think those skulls actually came from? so Was it A, a woolly mammoth, B, a hippopotamus, or C, a giant sea turtle?
00:49:29
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Turtle. Turtle.
00:49:33
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Oh, you'd be wrong. It would be the the woolly mammoth. So the ice hocket was really, you know, on the skull.
00:49:45
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Yeah. was Was really the... nasal cavity of which the um the sort trunk big old skull, isn't it? Yeah. Of the woolly mammoth. That's a big skull. That's big skull with with a big hole in ah and in the in in the front.
00:50:00
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It's all right. There we go. two Two questions. One right, one one wrong. You've got like, I know, this is all down. As as always, it's down to the last question. I like this hat.
00:50:12
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um I'm clenching my buttocks for the last one. Here we go. So you know. All right. So in several Greek temples, enormous bones were displayed as proof of legendary well legendary but legendary warriors.
00:50:31
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Modern archaeology suggests they were actually, A, dinosaur bones from the du Jurassic Cliffs. Yes. Yes. B, so fossilized mastodon and and mammoth and mammoth bones.
00:50:49
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C, statues carved from limestone that had weathered oddly. so they So there were these Greek temples with big bones and they were saying, yeah, number three.
00:51:05
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statues that were carved from limestone there but no it was actually fossilized mastodon and and mammoth bones so so they so it was it was just again just like earlier where they would dig up an old bone and it was huge and they'd go hang on second what what what is that i think that's the sort of and then they would invent stories around these right create crazy crazy it sounds a bit like roald dahl because everything roald dahl was all of his stories just had to be big.
00:51:39
Speaker
Yeah, James and the Giant Peep. Yeah. And even, well, I think I told you this, but his first job was writing for Penthouse, writing in porn stories.
00:51:50
Speaker
Was he? Yeah. He was commissioned. but His first commissioned work was writing for Penthouse, and it was all of his work was based on the fantasy of enormous penises.
00:52:00
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So he did it it's always the same thing. You just made them big. There we go. That's nuts. Oh, so I said nuts. Nuts.
00:52:12
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Oh, you know what? It's just room room reminded me that our mate Steve, you know, Steve plays guitar, Whitmore. Witters. Yeah, Witters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. um He worked for a porn mag for a while.
00:52:32
Speaker
um So he would do all the page layouts for it, right? course. I can't remember which which which which one, but yeah he's but he said in the next room, there was basically all these, all these ah know there was a bunch of of oh of women in there with their like with their PCs, and and they would write all of the letter sections.
00:53:02
Speaker
Yes. Like that that was their job. They would go, yeah Dear Basil Mag whatever it was, you know last week week you know i was late on my rent and my lander lady came up and but and it it was all of that stuff.
00:53:22
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Anyway, I'm remembering. Yeah, last week I couldn't pay the plumber ah and then I ordered pizza.
00:53:34
Speaker
What are they doing now? What are they doing now? All right. So um ah let's just say that your your feedback is is vital to us. So we read all of your comments. Your feedback is vital to us. We read all of your comments. Wow. Oh, brilliant.
00:53:50
Speaker
I love how you yeah he did that. um And let's get on to what it's your turn, Mr.
Episode Wrap-up and Next Preview
00:53:58
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T. Yes. Next episode is ADHD and art college. A bit niche, but, you know,
00:54:05
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All right. Come along for the journey because we'll we'll open it up about you to but self-expression and when you're young, that kind stuff. All right. and And perhaps the college days.
00:54:17
Speaker
College days. Yeah. Further education. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, post-school kind of stuff. So i i I feel like it's going going to be a just basically us two just talking about stories.
00:54:35
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Being nostalgic. Being at art college in the 80s. Pretty much it. Yes. Sounds to me. yes and good good to me All right.
00:54:46
Speaker
but In that case, with that, um it just leaves me to say that ADHD will... Yeah, why not? Yeah.
00:54:56
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00:55:36
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00:55:47
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00:55:57
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