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Speaker: OK, just before we begin this episode, um we had some technical issues with Paul's mic, so it doesn't sound that great. um I've done what I can. But anyway, I apologise for that.
Speaker: Let's press on. ah Back in the room.
Speaker: You know, yeah. Yeah, back yeah bit there we go. All right. So just without further adieu, actually, before that, I should just say we're glad that you're in the room with us. Yes, we are. it your favourite beverage or your favourite snack?
Speaker: Yeah, or both. Indeed. why Why pick and choose, mate? Why pick and choose? Why give it yourselves? Mm-hmm. So, let's go to a place where the distractions, the landmarks, and the detours are the main roads. Welcome to
Speaker: special episode, special episode.
Speaker: Special episode, special episode, special episode 101 type theme. Type theme. Hello, I'm Paul Thompson and I was diagnosed with the combined ADH and the D again two years ago.
Speaker: And I'm Martin West and I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD poo-poo platter in 2013 and we start off... ah in the local pub in ADHDville, the King's Agitated Head, where we, the ex-mayors of ADHDville, take care of business. And this week, it's a it's a special, it's it's um but but it's it's game two of the ADHDville Room 101 game.
Speaker: Yes. I'm very excited. I'm very excited. So, yeah Paul, do do you just want to kind of take us through what this game is for those that don't know?
Speaker: Yes. Yes. Why not? Why not? um Well, basically, how does this happen? How does this work? with Basically, Martin, we suggest five things that we hate, so each of us, so it's 10 things in total, and we compare that. We put them, we offer it to we kind of like input our answers into ChatGPT,
Speaker: gives us that their response, his, their response, and based on that, we kind of get a point score. I got a really bad score last time because i was trying to be too comical, and ChatGP didn't like it.
Speaker: And Martin won hands over. This time, let's see what happens. Right, so we try and ah um get things banished to Room 101, things that we think that the world could do without. without, exactly. Right.
Speaker: Exactly. Okay. Thank you for writing from the script, Martin. I like what I did just now. No problem. That's what I'm here for. um i' i'm a Yeah, so...
Speaker: ah Next time we we play this, I'm um um um going to get some game show and music going, I feel. Okay. I feel like i feel a we need to game show this. Okay. right. Yes.
Speaker: Yes. All right. So, yeah, we've got – we're going to each introduce a thing. um and as we go through, we can compare one to the other one to the other and see it who what we score.
Speaker: I've got, this is always interesting. course, it's always, the the easiest thing to do is think up things that we hate. It's much more difficult to think up things that we like. So it's quite easy. all right I've got five things here that didn't make it. okay Peach has a colour, right? Well, I was going to say, here Do you want to hold off on these?
Speaker: Or do you want to kind of like, no? beautiful Well, they might turn up at and a future episode. But in the meantime, peaches for the moment, peach as a colour didn't make it.
Speaker: The word like that has integrated itself into the English language too much recently. All right. Every sentence has got the word like in it. Don't like that. I've got modern Lego kits. Don't like the modern modern Lego kits. They've got, like, no imagination. They've basically got, the like, the image on the packet.
Speaker: And it's like, where's all the creativity gone? Where's all the imagination gone? All right. Still, big one for me. Didn't make it. And last but not least, the word game changer didn't make it, but almost did.
Speaker: I hate the word game changer. think... I think that you mentioned that last, last, last episode. okay. That's possible. That's how much I hate it.
Speaker: I did. ah you know what? i i i I don't have a left leftover list. Okay.
Speaker: You know what? I did. ah did have one that was fireworks that that that that go off at random times. So expect the so on the fifth of no November or on or on the or an independence day Yes, New Year's Eve, I get that.
Speaker: But it's the ones that are on a random, you know, August the 5th for no reason.
Speaker: If you live like I did in Palermo for three years, you'd get fireworks almost every night at midnight. Okay. Okay. And I thought, well, you know, it's just like, oh, kids, you know, bloody hell.
Speaker: Then I found out there's a reason. Basically, every time someone gets out of jail, out of the local jail in Palermo, they set off the fireworks at midnight. So you all always knew when some mafioso had got out of jail that day because they would set off the fireworks.
Speaker: Oh, is it a celebration or a warning? No, it's a celebration. Of course it is. Penelope. Cool. All right.
Speaker: you imagine? All right. Can you imagine that in in London or somewhere like that? Yeah, someone just got out of jail. Just set off some fireworks and celebrate. we Anyway.
Speaker: All right. So what's the first thing that you want to introduce into Room 101? Okay. Well, I'll give you some context first. You know you know the or more negative comments or corrections that an ADHD person will receive by the age of 10 compared to their peers, right?
Speaker: Okay. Corrective statements. We're apparently... three to five more times more likely to receive negative or corrective statements. Like, stop that.
Speaker: Pay attention. Why can't you just dot, dot, dot? You know, all that kind stuff. So, I guess the first thing I'm going to put into room world one is ears, obviously.
Speaker: If we didn't have ears, we wouldn't have to listen to that shit. Right? Ears. Obvious. Obvious.
Speaker: Obviously. Obviously. Obviously. Right. ah Right. And actually put this, i've been I've researched it, and there's a lot of things that would be actually improved in the in in society, right, if we were all deaf. yeah If everyone was deaf, suddenly a lot of things would be improved.
Speaker: You wouldn't have language problems. Everyone would be able to communicate by saha sign language or something. There'd be no borders. you know There'd be no problems with language at all.
Speaker: There'd be no small talk. There'd be no small talk. Because people wouldn't be bothered doing sign language in small talk. There's too much effort.
Speaker: All right. okay There's a downside. Music would be changed quite a lot. Right? Right. Also, the other thing that be changed ah quiet a quieter sensory world would foster mindfulness and mental clarity.
Speaker: Right? Or without constant auditory overstimulation, people might find it easy to rest or focus or connect inwardly. Martin.
Speaker: So that's my first thing. Years. Years going into... It took room 101, banished forever.
Speaker: All right. So where are are we going to put earrings for example? Banished as well. zi example and And earrings.
Speaker: All right. sir OK. So how confident are you that it's in? I'm really confident, Martin.
Speaker: All right. I'm really confident. OK. Well, let's put it to the chi to the ah chat, to the GBT judge. I put upper in ears because society would be better. No small talk or language barrier. Excellent. Here we go. something So I put in some some some of your reasoning.
Speaker: Yeah. Or it says. Great idea. It says denied. Denied. Come on. It's bad It's a bold proposition, but without ears, there'd be no music, no laughter, and no way to hear the kettle click off, the ADHD brain's favourite sound of accomplishment.
Speaker: Society might be quieter, but far less alive. Oh, no.
Speaker: Oh, well, kicked me. I feel like I'm going to have an argument. I'm sorry about that.
Speaker: I feel like I'm going to have an argument with ChatGPT. A big one. Oh, dear. Well, okay that was a bold one. I mean, you came out why the gates hot.
Speaker: I've got less bold ones. But how about, what's yours, Martin? What's your first one that you want to banish? My first one cheap underwear. is cheap underwear Now, the problem I have with cheap underwear is there's two things. One is, you know, the the elastic on, like, if you're wearing your little tidy, whitey underpants, and then the the elastic goes, then they and then they kind of, like, when you're wearing your jeans, they kind of, like, slip down off your off hips and kind of, like, gather up.
Speaker: Right. Down, you know, like down below and it's like really feels weird and uncomfortable. Okay. Yes. I don't like that feeling of because that's what cheap underwear does. krista Because it's cheap elastic?
Speaker: Yes. So the cheap elastic doesn't retain its elasticity? No. And you put it on and all kind of loose.
Speaker: What if you just replace them, like, regularly? Like, at least every 20 years?
Speaker: That regularly? and Wow. Jesus. Look at you. I'm Mr. Ford Thompson. And I buy new underwear every 20
Speaker: Good Lord. You know what? I don't... I don't have cheap cheap underwear. i um will I don't have expensive underwear. um So my brand of choice is the classic Calvin Klein right and underwear. I find that the elastic is good and it lasts a pretty long, long time.
Speaker: Okay. 20 years Yeah. And also, go on. Yeah, no, go on. I was going to say holes.
Speaker: that That's the other issue I have with... Three of them. with Three holes, at least.
Speaker: Yeah, but it is when that sneaky fourth hole creeps in that... Yes. Okay. I have a problem...
Speaker: What about chafing? Yeah.
Speaker: You know what? um but Yeah, no. I ah don't remember. Yeah. I'm guessing cheap underwear may chafe more.
Speaker: I don't know. I think it probably does. probably does chafe more. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Cheap underwear, okay.
Speaker: I'm going to put it into a into the judge. I'm just going to say cheap underwear. Here we go. What does it say? It says it's in.
Speaker: Cheap underwear is a betrayal of trust. It promises comfort and and delivers chaos and this and disintegrates at the worst possible moment, banished to room one or one never to ride up again.
Speaker: Riding up. See, that's the other thing. Riding up. Rides up. Yes. Right. ah to it There's an expression in English. You call There's an expression, isn't there?
Speaker: Wedgie. A wedgie. In England. A wedgie. yeah Okay. All right. all right This one... This next one's a little bit... A little bit less conversed controversial than ears, Martin.
Speaker: I want to... I want to banish forever the word deficient or deficit. oh Oh, okay. From ADHD. The D in ADHD, deficit. I want to banish it.
Speaker: Because, here's my theory. If, on the other hand, people that aren't ADHD, right? Neurotypicals, right? Do they not have deficits?
Speaker: Why is the word deficit? in the the in the definition of being neurotypical. Short of deficit in filtering small talk. They don't they can't do it.
Speaker: they can't They don't know how to filter small talk. They just like to give you the small talk. That's a deficit. Deficit in authenticity. Look at my blip, like jenny from Jenny from the block.
Speaker: Look at the blocks that I've got. how Authenticity, come on, let's talk about that for a minute. I'm just, I'm just turning from the block. Don't look at the rocks that I've got.
Speaker: Deficit in authenticity. Interesting homes. How many neurotypicals homes have you been into and they were interesting? No.
Speaker: Go to a neuro spicy person's house. A million times more interesting. So deficits. Another deficit. um Names for their countless psychosis.
Speaker: Deficit. Fashion sense. Neuro spicy people, we've got way more fashion sense, much more interesting. Deficit, come on.
Speaker: So I want to put deficit firmly. i want to firmly banish it so forever. Don't like that All right. All right, I'm going to in the word the word the word deficit in relation to All right?
Speaker: right Yes. So I've given you a little bit of kind context. It's going to make you think, isn't it? Come on! It's in. It's a straight in. There we go. The reason is and like deficit.
Speaker: yeah Yes, it says deficit makes it sound like we're missing something. When in truth, ADHD brains overflow with ideas, curiosity and energy. The word itself deserves early retirement in room 101.
Speaker: There we go. Yes. Nice. Well done, Paul. Well done, Paul. Scoring a point there. like Thanks. I love it. All right. I feel quite confident about my next choice, I think.
Speaker: Where is it? Oh, there it Okay. All right. So my choice is um badly designed showers. Okay. So ah my my my problem with badly designed showers one,
Speaker: one And the most important one is that the controls for the shower are often, at least in this country, are right by the shower head on the on the same wall as the shower head.
Speaker: So yeah when you turn it on, you are kind of, you are going to get it on you. Like as soon as you turn that shower on, you are in the firing line.
Speaker: Like, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't escape it. Whereas, no. um Yeah. And if you if you do get it vaguely right and you're in the shower,
Speaker: ah if you if you want to turn it up or down, you're you're you're kind of like, it's right in the wrong place because you end up having to like, I always find out my my head usually goes under the shower head when I'm trying to fiddle with it.
Speaker: Whereas if it's if it's on the back wall behind you, yeah yeah it makes so much more sense. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Because you've got time you' got a chance to step in Step in.
Speaker: That's right. Turn it on without getting wet, getting the, and then just putting your hand out and testing it. Oh, is it too hot? Is it too cold? Let me to suggest just adjust, adjust, adjust. And then you can proceed towards the shower head.
Speaker: Right, okay. that so Yeah, yeah. So cheap cheap shower heads, yes. no it's just badly designed showers. Oh, badly designed showers, okay.
Speaker: Right. Are you an advocate for the bench? Oh, that that was my point too. Yes. if Every shower should have like a seat.
Speaker: Yeah. Like as normal. Like this is just everyone has a in the shower and you can sit down or you or use as a shelf, whatever you want to do. Read a magazine. You could have a read a laminated the magazine for sure.
Speaker: Yeah. But yeah why why why are we forcing people to stand up through the whole thing? I don't like those rubber mats either, anti-slip mats.
Speaker: Why can't we just put a proper shower basin in that doesn't slip?
Speaker: Right. Why they smooth? Just asking for trouble. what What are showers like in in it's Italy, Paul? It's the same as anywhere else, really, except more of them because no one has baths.
Speaker: They don't have baths, generally, in Italy. um No, I haven't had a bath since 2001, possibly. Yeah, probably the same. i I remember when I moved into a an apartment in Palermo,
Speaker: i I said, okay, and I was walking around the the apartment with the owner and said, I'll take the apartment if you put in a good quality shower.
Speaker: Wow. And she said, what's wrong with the one? Yeah. what's wrong with the what's wrong What's wrong with the one that I've put in? said, it's made of plastic. I don't like plastic showers.
Speaker: I like, I don't like the noise they make. So I want a glass shower. I love this. She said, oh, that's a bit niche. I said, I know, just the kind of guy I am.
Speaker: And so I insisted and she did it. Wow.
Speaker: That's amazing. It's a true story. Way to go, Paul. I love it. Way to go yeah have you with your accommodations.
Speaker: Because I was already on a winning streak because she thought, because I was English, I was going to be one of those reliable tenants. So I thought I'd be able to play on this a bit.
Speaker: So, okay, you want me as a tenant because I'm English. And therefore, you perceive me as being reliable. But I'm going to push for a quality shower person.
Speaker: i that is amazing all right so i'm gonna put i'm gonna put badly designed showers ah in into a chat GBT. let's Let's see what it says. must come Yes, it's in.
Speaker: There we go. Nothing tests ADHD patients like a shower with five knobs, no pressure, and a spray that hits everywhere except your body into room 101. They go along with whoever thought barely warm mist was a a a design choice.
Speaker: You know what? The worst shower head, now now that you bring up shower heads, I don't know whether you've seen these. It's called something like a rainforest or something, and it's a big... Yeah. It goes right over your head, and it's like a circle, and it and it comes down like rain.
Speaker: Yes, yes. And that's... For whatever reason... can't remember what it's called. It's got a name, isn't it? Yeah, it's got a name. Rain? Yeah, I hate... ah that's basic Yeah, I just don't cope with those.
Speaker: Yeah, I know what you mean. Because I like a shower ah like a shower nozzle that you can angle. but If you've got, like like I did last night, I had a knot in my shoulder.
Speaker: I like ah ah don't know why. but And so I directed the nozzle blast it with hot water on the area of shoulder where the knot was.
Speaker: And with those showers that you're talking about, you can't do that. No. Too generic a spray. Pointless. Pointless and stupid.
Speaker: All right. Cool. ah go All right. I'm doing well, but but it's anyone's game. So you've got one in and enough I've got two in.
Speaker: Okay. okay I'm going to throw in a ah wild one, ah controversial one. Ha-ha. going to put in to Room 101, Banished Forever, the years from 1980 to 1984 that I was at school.
Speaker: I don't want to... rather just didn't ever exist. Even if, in those years, excellent for music, right? There was Soft Cell, Tainted Love, The Smiths formed in 1982...
Speaker: New Order, Blue Monday, 1983. Motorhead, if you're of that kind of, you know, like that scene. Ace of Spades, 1980. The Specials, Ghost Town, 1981.
Speaker: All of that music would not have existed. but And I know it's it's a bit of a selfish request to banish four years of the 1980s. But that is my proposal.
Speaker: Oh, right. You know what? um i thought think I think a plenty plenty of people would um would rather some years... when when but right The last four years of your school vanished.
Speaker: When was it? 1980 1984? 1984.
Speaker: ah 1984 was a good year, um um I must say.
Speaker: I'm going to type it all out.
Speaker: says, yes, you can have room 101. It said
Speaker: it says yes. you can have room one ah one and said yes Yeah. Banished. No one.
Speaker: Yeah, you can you can you can basically.
Speaker: So no no Blue Monday, by no Smiths, no Soft Cell, no Moded, no Specials. All right. Okay. Didn't think that would go through. It all goes in.
Speaker: But then you wouldn't get market culture. You know, it's all good. I know, but this is just your school years. So... Right, just my school years.
Speaker: ah you get to keep them? Yes. Oh, okay. So it's just I seem to be a little bit less selfish. ah Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. If you hadn't have added your your more school years, then that would have been... Okay, fair enough. All right. Okay.
Speaker: Let me go with ah my third choice, which is um possibly won't won't get into in indic room one one. It's cooking chocolate.
Speaker: now okay i'm pretty i'm pretty sure ali uh alexandra our ah postmaster general will be like no cooking chocolate's awesome because it has a very specific purpose but my reason why i don't like cooking chocolate is you know i have adhd i have a bit of a sweet tooth thing right and uh And I'm hunting around my my mum's cupboards usually. I'm just thinking back to my childhood. And then there's no nothing good except cooking chocolate.
Speaker: And you kind of go, oh, okay, how bad can it be? so you have a bit of cooking chocolate. And you're like, oh, this is not good. We're talking like 100% cocoa to cooking chocolate, like the top.
Speaker: Okay. any any any Any cooking chocolate. chocolate Okay. I don't know. It doesn't have have the – it's got something missing out of it. I think flavor or niceness.
Speaker: ah Really? I bought – I literally bought some cooking chocolate yesterday. it was i was at the cake at the cash till, and it was on offer, 50% off, and I bought a big chunk of it.
Speaker: i could horror I can happily eat that stuff. 70% cocoa. I love it. I love that stuff. That's a controversial one, Mr. West.
Speaker: I know. It's good. Cooking chocolate is great for chili con carne. It's like a secret ingredient that you can put in.
Speaker: Well, you know, that's I think that's, um yeah, this is one one of one of those. Oh, what? It said yes. it see It's a Larian Inn.
Speaker: It says because it's better disappointing taste and its failure to become proper chocolate could be someone's ultimate culinary horror. mean, that is a controversial answer. It's generous.
Speaker: it says It's quite generous.
Speaker: I don't know how I got away with that one, Ref. he Honestly, mate. and I'm surprised as you are. ah Okay. Okay.
Speaker: We're ready for the next one. All right. Number four. Number four. I'm going to put in, to be banished into room 101, the state of limbo. the state of limbo Ian, I'll give you some context.
Speaker: State of limbo. If I've got, like I did today, literally today, I had my first meeting ah teaching conversation English online was at 3 o'clock this afternoon, and I was in a state of paralysis um right all day until that.
Speaker: And I just can't organise my life until, it's a classic ADHD thing, isn't it? yeah and it's like all I can think about is that and I can't as if I can't do anything before it and it defies all logic it's like I'm sitting there thinking come on Paul do something do something go to the go and I don't know go for a walk with the dog do this or do that make some dinner sort out your sock drawer yeah sort out my sock drawer
Speaker: Go to the post office.
Speaker: That's it. State of limbo. paralysis. All right.
Speaker: I like this. I ah feel like you should be on good, solid ground here. because Yeah, it's it's that it's that awaiting mode. I can only really do...
Speaker: can only really do Things that are wrap. So say I've got a meeting, right? And it's with someone. and i i can I can do things if if it's in the same room as mike right is is my computer set up.
Speaker: I can't do anything outside of the room. but So I could, you know, oh I could tidy my desk a bit. I mean, that's about it, really. The stupid thing is, right, this first listing was for an hour and a half.
Speaker: So it finished at 4.30. And then my next lesson was at five. So I had a half hour gap between the first and the second online student, right?
Speaker: I got so much done in that half an hour. I was like, oh, I need to do this before the next one. And I didn't have that state of anxiety before, like getting stuff done.
Speaker: You know? Yeah. It's just unbelievable, frustrating. What can I say? Well, I think I've got high hopes for you. Although the judge has been a little bit weird, I'm going to say. I think the judge has had a few, you know, has had half a bottle whiskey.
Speaker: Right. All right. Let's see.
Speaker: It's thinking about it. Oh, it's in. It's in. Yes, of course You're good. it It's in. So what's that score? What's the score? 3-2?
Speaker: It's currently, um well, we're we're we're halfway through. So you've scored, you've got four questions and you've got three in. Yeah. right yeah I've done three questions and got all all of them in Oh, have you? Oh, okay. So you could go, okay, so we're level at the moment, but you've still got one to go.
Speaker: Yeah, I've got like a thing in hand. Okay. Are you thinking about it, Sean? um and you think yeah so it's
Speaker: I'm just looking down at the other two and I'm thinking I'm feeling confident, mate. um I'm feeling confident. Okay. right. All right. Yeah. yeah I'm feeling good about about about this. All right. So number four is other people who walk their dogs near near me Okay.
Speaker: it's it's It's odd because I like other people's dogs, right? I like seeing other people's dogs. And I actually don't mind talking to other people.
Speaker: Right. Like if I'm just kind of like someone's just starts talking to me, I don't tend to mind that so much. My problem is, is that when you're walking your dog, you'll be going down the road or the path, say, and you'll see them in the distance coming towards you. And you know,
Speaker: like in in about two or three minutes time, you're going to meet, right? because it's it's Because you're on the same path, it's inevitable. Yes, right. And you just start thinking, have I seen this person before? Do I know this dog? No, I don't. Okay.
Speaker: Do they look like someone that I can talk to? Because then i have to do this thing in my head, which i think is a cultural thing, which is if the person's like a – sometimes you get it like a kid – walking the dog right like a you know a young girl of like you know 12 or 13 or something or a boy as an and and as an as as an errand because i don't know because they wanted the dog and they promised that they would walk it and now they're walking it um and i will generally just blank them because i think it's weird
Speaker: to say, oh, hello to an 11-year-old girl, right, walking down a path. like I just think it's like, it's like so, nope, I won't even speak to you. and then and then you And then so if it's if it's an adult, I go, oh, are you old enough? Yeah, yeah. um ah So you have to like work out who they are and then what whether you should engage with them or not yeah And then when you actually meet, right, I can't deal with...
Speaker: i can't deal with looking at my dog and how that interaction with their dog is going. like So I've got to police that, right? I've got look out for that other dog. I don't know any other dog.
Speaker: I know mine, I have to watch my dog just to see what's going on down there in in the dog world. yeah And then i have to, at the same time, have a conversation with that person.
Speaker: Yeah. So there's too much going on. Because if don't have conversation, it's rude. Right. Yeah. Well, if you, my dog, if he depends on the type of dog that he meets, but if there's some dogs, he could get quite frisky.
Speaker: And all of a sudden, the leads get all entangled. And you're doing like a merry dance with the with the the two dogs, the two owners, and you're trying to get the leads untangled.
Speaker: It's like you do like, and you end up doing like a game Twister in the middle of the street. Right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. The whole oh leash twisty thing. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Oh, hang on. Oh, yeah. Oh, hang on. oh Yeah.
Speaker: Oh, sorry. Oh. Yeah. I know, right? Yeah. that is Do you ever pretend to be on your phone and so you just avoid the whole thing? Oh. All the bloody time.
Speaker: All the time. unless i Unless I know them, which I i do know some people around here that walk their dogs, and i'm I will happily chat with them because I already know that their dogs or how their dogs are going interact with mine, so i I'm less paying less attention to that.
Speaker: um So that's, yeah. So that that's good. All right with all this one I like that. All right, well, yeah, I'm thinking i'm thinking good about this. let me said Let me just punch it in. What does Chachibitec say it is?
Speaker: Thinking about... No? Oh, that's going to create...
Speaker: Oh, that's put the cat amongst the pigeons and the dog amongst the duck. They were trying to create some tension. They were playing with us. What's their reason?
Speaker: Because it says, no, because for most people, this is a pleasant or neutral social interaction, not a profound personal terror.
Speaker: So, yeah, it might be a profound personal terror to people aren't Martin West, though. Most people aren't most known aren't Martin West. What the hell? That's right. Okay.
Speaker: So that has, Paul, Paul, Mr. Paul, Mr. Paul, this is this means that we're on our last question, question five, and we've both got three years.
Speaker: I almost feel sorry for you because I've i've got a blinder for the next one. like All right. ChatBT might give me double points.
Speaker: can ask it, I guess. Yes. Yes, exactly. Okay. I'm going to put the word disorder. I'm putting the word, the other D of ADHD, I'm putting the word disorder.
Speaker: Okay. And um right I want to know, you know, I want to know specifically, you know, if we want to get it changed, what what happens? Because apparently the ICD, the International Classification of Diseases, which is part of right?
Speaker: Right. It only reviews these definitions every 10 to 30 years. Wow. so and And so I thought, well, what what do you have to do to get it changed?
Speaker: And you can. I've got an address. If anyone wants to write them, it's an address. It's a very specific address. I've got a telephone number as well. A specific number for this exact address.
Speaker: part of their job, not just like any old definition, specifically ADHD. You write to the World Health Organization in Avenue Appiah 20, 1211 Geneva, Switzerland, um telephone number plus 41 22791 2111. Okay. All right. I'll put that in show notes.
Speaker: okay all right i'll put that in the show note I don't know who's the closest, right? Yeah, put it in the show notes. don't know who's the closest, but I worked out by foot.
Speaker: I can literally arrive, but if I walked there in 16 days, could walk to Tsunema. Is that walking hours a day?
Speaker: it's walking um ah twenty three to thirty kilometres a day All right. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I'm just the other side the house from Geneva, basically.
Speaker: So it's not that far. It's just steep. All right. It's just a lot of up and of down. It's lot of ups and not too many downs. Yeah.
Speaker: All right. So I want to put the word dis... mean, we all know it's not a disorder, don't we? Although, Chachy Pig put cookie chocolate.
Speaker: She allowed it, or they allowed it. So we'll see what they say about disorder. Right, because the the the only reason why I can think that they would leave it in is because it's a it's like that fucking crazy, like the...
Speaker: medical world has to like you know that's how how they think but yeah all right like let's let's put it in i put in the word disorder in adhd does that seem fair is it fair yes clean you know all right straight up on the rocks all right here we go he's thinking about it and it gives the answers yes yes That's a yes for you.
Speaker: Yes. That's a good yes. Ask if he thinks I deserve a double points. I will in a second. It says, because for many with ADHD, the word disorder pathologizes their unique neurology and represents a lifetime of being told they are broken or defective.
Speaker: I'm going to say, right. Pathologizes, that's the thing. this worth double points? Yes or no.
Speaker: ah With a short explanation.
Speaker: All right. Let's see whether you're worth double points. Oh, no. No, you don't get double points. You don't get double points. Pourquoi? um It says ah Room 101 is about profound personal terror, not a grading system for annoyances.
Speaker: Ooh!
Speaker: I put you in your place. Blimey. Blimey. I think can get a nosebleed.
Speaker: who Blimey. know I think it just got ticked, ticked off that you asked it. Hold my jacket, mate. I think i need to get my arms up up free for a battle.
Speaker: right i love i love this okay so if i have a chance to uh to get in um yeah uh i hope you have to have to uh get this yes for a draw i have to get my last uh thing in so my last thing is Now, I know that we did small talk.
Speaker: I think and we did small talk last last game, but I have a very specific small talk thing that that we could... but but i wish that we could banished to room 101 and that is the small talk about the roads that you took to get to the yes to the place so oh god yes so in it So here's a in this scenario, right? um
Speaker: People are coming around your house, right? And they ding dong on the doorbell. Oh, hello, hello, come in. Yeah, hello, come in, come in. Oh, how was the drive? Oh, you know, it was quite good. But then we hit the B72 Lechelade and then we were held up.
Speaker: So we went down... the A47 to like Junction 7 and then double back to the m twenty five and then yeah and then that's how, like that that conversation.
Speaker: That's the worst kind of small talk. The worst kind. I was once having a conversation, there was guy, i had to go to a town, um a place called Rimini on the east coast of Italy and I was asking this guy,
Speaker: you know, best way to get there. And he just went on forever. He gave me alternatives depending on whether, ah if there were, oh, if there's traffic, then you need to go this way and that way and this way. and Oh, just when you get to certain point, you've gone too far, so you need to come back again.
Speaker: And, oh, God. um ah Yeah, yes, the worst small talk.
Speaker: Yeah. um I'll type in. So going to write the small talk about directions and roads
Speaker: that um that how happens ah when you arrive at a party, say, right? Slash event. Party.
Speaker: Ah, party slash event. Here we go. Was it a party, though, or was it just a shooting weekend?
Speaker: A shooting weekend? Oh, there's a famous quote. sorry I was quoting from, you know that disastrous interview with Prince Andrew the BBC Newsnight?
Speaker: and never I never saw never watched it? Oh, man. No.
Speaker: All right. It was from there. All right. So yeah let's see whether it gets into room 101. And it is ah yes. Because for some people, being trapped in a cycle of meaningless repetitive small talk is profound social anxiety. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A draw. that's So that's a draw.
Speaker: That's a draw. Okay. There was quite was so who well it was's a battle. A battle. A battle. ah bottle Battle Royale. um I put two there that were like easy ones, really. Putting disorder and deficit in. ah You know, they're home bankers.
Speaker: Right. I knew that. Right. so But yeah, ah next next time will be a bit maybe more controversial.
Speaker: Right, well, just just just out out of interest, i'm I'm just wondering what the colour peach would have come back with. Oh, okay, yes. um um so So just in in in case you made a wrong this decision with your first one, which was right? If you swapped out ears for peach, would you would it have been a a tactical win if you'd done that?
Speaker: No, and that would have been out as well. Okay. So it says, what? How the hell do they defend the colour peach? Come on.
Speaker: It's indefendable. All right, here we go. It says here, while an individual might have a strange and specific phobia. You've got a strange and specific phobia.
Speaker: ah yeah The colour peach is not a universal or common source of profound terror. ah Profound terror? Okay. It says you have a strange and specific phobia, Paul.
Speaker: Right. Amongst many.
Speaker: Okay. Oh, well. Oh, well, that was a beautiful thing. Oh, well, we should do this again probably in about, I don't know, a month and a half's time or thereabouts. absolutely. We should do game three.
Speaker: So um first game is a win for me. Second game was a draw. ah All right. So as as this was a Room 101 special win, we're not going to go to the um Alexandra's hooked Haunted House or do any of that. Are we? Okay.
Speaker: Fine. wow well oh fell Or not. I could just say your feedback is vital to us, which it is. Yeah, we go. not yours, Martin, I mean our audience, our public, then it's really vital to us.
Speaker: And we read all your comments. And so let us know what you think. Would you prefer to keep your ears? Would you rather have them banished? Do you think it could be a good thing for your ADHD if you didn't have ears or no word on it?
Speaker: Let us know. you like cooking chocolate? Do you have an opinion on cooking chocolate? So, okay. and i Yes?
Speaker: I would like to know um
Speaker: ah why you can't use regular normal chocolate, why can't you use that and not cooking chocolate? but why Why is there a difference? I'm sure alex Alexandra has the answer for me that I so desire because I don't know why. You just don't use normal chocolate.
Speaker: Right. Why? I don't know. All right. All right. and so So yeah the next thing episode, Paul. Yeah, well, it's your choice, isn't it? what what What's the next?
Speaker: What's the theme of the next episode, Mr. West?
Speaker: Something that is close to my heart as a kid, and that is we're going to talk about ADHD and dinosaurs. Fabulous. Yes. Dinosaurs.
Speaker: Yes. Yeah. Jurassic Park. It's a massive park. Yeah. um and um So, yeah, I am excited to talk about dinosaurs. That would be a good one. Okay. Yeah, I know. Okay, cool. Okay, well, that...
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Speaker: And I beseech you fellow ADHDers, fare thee well with gladness of heart. There, where's button? There, says the mayor. That's that.
Speaker: There we go. Another episode under the belt. There's something in my pocket that's digging into me.
Speaker: I don't know what it is. It's your belt. I don't know what it is. Anyway. Oh, I've got... You know what? We have, like, um Halloween coming up, so I've got trick-or-treat candy downstairs.
Speaker: love to night And I'm just eating it. I'm just eating it, mate. Yeah, it's tempting. Tempting. Yeah.
