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79 Eyeball physics and Holiday memories
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole, E3’s demise, Kickstarters, Fortnite, and Games as a Service; Ron goes from the science of the eyeball to physics; Chris brings up our holiday memories. As always please like, subscribe and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Evolution of Gaming Events
00:00:04
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe podcast. I'm Chris. And I'm Ron. Ron was talking about how he's going to rent a goat to walk on his back. That goat's heavy enough. Well, I think the little cloven hooves would be uncomfortable. Yeah, but I think it's a matter of, because they spread it out over four feet, I need to direct it down. You get one of those freaky goats who walks on two feet.
00:00:34
Speaker
It's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. So I saw some gift or something and it was a goat walking on two feet in a pen and like four chickens were falling behind it. I was like, that's a ritual. That's not. They're plotting our demise. Yeah. So I was supposed to ask you about an eyeball. Well, no, that's my topic. Oh, OK. OK. All right. Oh, that's a teaser there, folks. Eyeballs.
00:01:05
Speaker
You know, everybody loves talking about eyeballs. What did you see the news that E3 is finally dead? I mean, it's kind of been dead for a couple of years. It's been dead for a while. Yeah. It's not like it really. Yeah. Well, the problem with E3, it was never meant to be what they tried to make it into. Right. It was originally for, you know, tradespeople. Yeah. Yeah. It was supposed to be this thing in the summer. It's like, hey, here's all this stuff that you should have on your shelves for, you know,
00:01:35
Speaker
October, November for the sale season. Right. They made it into comic-con. Yes. Which is not the best. No. Really system for what it was. And then I think, you know, from talking, I'm not talking about hearing from people talking about it. They were, you know, all the insiders got mad about it because all these, you know, other people were at the event.
00:02:04
Speaker
You know, the peons. Yeah. Oh, no, no, not the people that are actually buying your product. Well, well, yeah, I get it. But it's it's like it's the same people who are complaining about the video game awards the other night. They're like, well, you know, they ran. They just burned through the awards. They didn't give, you know, the publishers and everything the credit. It's like, well, if you want to see that, watch the dice awards. That's all they do is give credit to the people who make it and, you know, develop it and everything.
Costs and Strategies of Gaming Events
00:02:32
Speaker
Video game awards is just
00:02:34
Speaker
two hours of new game trailers and stuff. Yeah, I think I would think about E3 though is like if you think about FDIC and all of a sudden they just have a bunch of, the fire barn came to my house, I should be at FDIC. Yeah. That's kind of the problem with it though is if it's meant for your business. Right. That's how you make your living. Yeah.
00:03:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think it all went bad when they started letting just every Joe Dick game reporter in. Yeah. Well, there's that and they still never let us in. But I mean, now it's so easy for these big publishers to say, no, we're going to have our own one off event and, you know, it can be virtual, it can be hybrid, it can be whatever. And, you know, super affordable. They don't need to waste the money for E3. Yeah.
00:03:32
Speaker
I mean, I think that's going to be the way of Comic Con. I mean, I think it's all. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it's, you know, writing on the wall for many of these. So because how much does it cost to run a comic on? I mean, it's got to be astronomical. Oh, yeah. Well, and I heard at least for E3, they had like some other caveats in there, like if you.
00:03:53
Speaker
had a booth there, you had to hire their employees to set it up. You had to use their craft services for food. You had it was all these like little add ons that they had tacked into it. So yeah, yeah, I believe all that, you know, because again, cost of these things are crazy. And I know like when I worked in a not exactly conventional, but I worked in like we had the same thing where you got to use our people. Yeah.
00:04:24
Speaker
You know, for, you know, for insurance reasons, all kinds of money reasons, but yeah. We can't set up our own tables. No, you can't set up your own tables. If you set up your own table, we'll flip it over. Well, that's our tables. They aren't your tables. Oh yeah, I see. What if they brought their own table? I don't know that they would have loved that. Yeah.
00:04:51
Speaker
Well, if they said that table met all the specs that your table made. Oh, well, our tables are junk, so yeah, like that hard. Yeah. Yeah. It's a shame. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't like gotten excited for E3 in a while because, yeah, the big thing is, it's like, OK, yeah, all the trailers going to be on YouTube within seconds. Yes. So or you have like rocks, rockstar.
00:05:21
Speaker
Oh, we're going to have our big GTA six of announcement and then somebody leaked it. So they set up where we're just putting it out there.
Challenges in Gaming Industry
00:05:32
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I liked the spectacle of, you know, the. Releases and this is what's coming up in the year and yeah, but then it got to this is what's coming up in five years. Yeah, you know.
00:05:49
Speaker
And then, you know what, Starfield announced that in 17 or something crazy. Yeah. Let me just think Elder Elder Scrolls six was announced what, two years ago. Yeah. It's supposed to come out in 26 or something. We're still waiting on Dragon Age. Yeah. You know, I was looking through my scene the other day and I saw Dragon Age. I was like, Oh, man.
00:06:15
Speaker
Well, I saw the other day they had like this little teaser. I was like, oh, they're putting out a trailer. And at the end of the teaser is like full trailer out in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. I was like, what? You're teasing the trailer's release now. Come on. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah. I was surprised with Rockstar. I figure when they put that GTA six out, they'd be like, yeah, available, you know, spring of twenty four, not summer of twenty five.
00:06:43
Speaker
Well, they're still making so much money off GTA five. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, they make. I think GTA five broke game design companies brains. Oh, yeah, I agree. Because the amount of money it made after the game. Yeah. They haven't put out anything for it in how long? Um, actually, I think they just put something out. It was like cook cop shops or something. I don't know.
00:07:14
Speaker
But they didn't put out a big expansion. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, just little like, you know, little add ons here and there. Like, I mean, most of the life service games do so. And then the video game thing people are going to play, they didn't really mention the fact that all these layoffs happens. Like, well, is that really the place to talk about the layoffs? Right. You know, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you.
00:07:40
Speaker
You're there and I get it. You know, it's it looks like it sucks. But it was also a lot of these game companies like it exploded because they, you know, we're all trying to do, you know, the service or things like that. And then they realized, oh, crap, we really can't do this stuff. And I've had it where it's like, what was that game that just came out the the next day or whatever that like was on Steam for five minutes and then they pulled it. Oh, I didn't hear about that. Yeah, it was like a
00:08:11
Speaker
a Kickstarter, but, you know, one of those kind of deals. And yeah, the company was like, yeah, it we put it out there. It's not going to fly. And anybody who supported us? Sorry, shit happens. Right. It's like, wow, that's OK. All right. I mean, unfortunately, that is, you know, when like Kickstarter, like if you kickstart something, you have to realize that there's a good chance that it won't go, you know,
00:08:40
Speaker
You know, that it's it's made by people who have no experience or even if they have experience, it's just things don't work out the way you think they're going to work out. So I've only kick started one thing and I won't do it ever again. It's not the best. Yeah, I learned I'm kind of hesitant unless I like really love something, but. Well, it's just the voters gay people just said that all the
00:09:07
Speaker
All the people who worked on Baldur's Gate are basically gone from the studio. Or I guess maybe working on other projects, but it's kind of sad. It is, yeah. And honestly, part of me is like, I don't know if I want a Baldur's Gate 4. Right.
00:09:29
Speaker
I would like I think I would like some mini one off campaigns or something. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I would love to see my character, you know.
Gaming Trends and Preferences
00:09:39
Speaker
In the infernal realm. Yeah. Well, you know, they had just had that update or whatever that it's like a epilogue kind of thing. It's like six months later.
00:09:50
Speaker
Oh, no, I saw the update. I downloaded it. I didn't realize it was. I haven't hopped into it yet, but yeah, it's supposed to be like six months later and you can interact with everybody at the camp and there's something else to do. And yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. That game is just like an everlasting gobstopper, though. Yeah. Yeah. How could you replay it? It's like, yeah, if I say one thing differently in Act one, everything's changed. Yeah. It's a whole butterfly effect. Yeah.
00:10:20
Speaker
Totally different game. I feel bad for the game developers that have lost their jobs, I guess. Oh, yeah, absolutely. The thing is, the business of game making is so different than it was even three years ago. I don't know how these companies really keep up with it. No.
00:10:46
Speaker
We buy games differently. We, you know, there's just. The idea of like, I'm going to buy one triple A title a quarter now, right? Like I don't buy every triple A title. No, you just can't. No, no. What's like PlayStation sends you like, well, every damn service does it now, the you know, your 2023 wrapped up or whatever, right?
00:11:14
Speaker
And yeah, I played 11 games last year. Yeah, I mean, and that's including like the little freebies on plus every now and again and stuff like that. So. Well, look at the games you play now. Like, look how much hours you're putting into them to, you know, get through the content of the games. So much more content. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, I played Destiny all year this year and then Baldur's Gate three, I just got in what, September, right?
00:11:41
Speaker
And it was my number two played game. So, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the games that were on there, they were, you know, there was that Star Wars Fallen Order, which was a huge game. Final Fantasy 16. I mean, there's big games that came out. Spider-Man two. Oh, Spider-Man two. What's that? Spider-Man two. So the game. Yeah.
00:12:10
Speaker
It's one of those annoying games that like, come on, sorry. Yeah. One day, one day. I don't. I don't think they will. No, no, it won't. No. Well, you've got a PlayStation four. I do. I do. Oh, wait. No. Spider-Man 2 is only five. I was going to say it's probably got to get to the point where they're not. Yeah, it is. Yeah. That's right. Because my brother was like, Oh, I guess we got to break down by five. Yeah. The.
00:12:39
Speaker
The PlayStation sits in my RV for my RV gaming. Yeah. It's a little annoying with the PlayStation and the Xbox, though, like, yeah, because I have to log in before we leave, make sure it's all updated. Yeah. Play games. You know, it's kind of where I want to get a switch. What the switch to will switch. You got to update to. Yeah, but you can just carry it inside. Yeah. You know, yeah.
00:13:09
Speaker
Yeah, I, I can't believe they haven't, you know, announced like the switch pro or switch you or whatever they're going to call it. I think they've thought he's going to be a new switch. Yeah. So. Can't be that much stronger. Yeah. I'm sure they'll have, you know, Mario Kart eight for the eight thousandth time. That's very popular. Yeah, it is. I mean, that's the reason why it's popular. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:13:38
Speaker
Markart is. It's maybe the best. Party game that's ever come out. Yeah, yeah, Mario or Nintendo is definitely good at that stuff, although, I mean, some of the stuff Fortnite's doing now is kind of eking in on that. So I don't follow Fortnite. So, yeah, evidently in Fortnite, there's three new modes and you can do Lego Fortnite.
00:14:07
Speaker
which is licensed with Lego. So it's like Minecraft, but Lego. Yeah, there's I can't remember what it's called, but they partnered with the people who did Rocket League. So they have their own kart racer inside Fortnite now. And then they have they partnered with harmonics who did rock band and everything, and they pretty much have rock band inside for now. Yeah, it's like I heard all that and I was like, I might download Fortnite.
00:14:38
Speaker
Yeah, that's insane. Yeah. So, you know, I don't give Fortnite any crap because I played it once or twice and I enjoyed it. It's a fun little game. I got a couple of victory royales. I was like, I'm going out on top. Right. That's what I did. Yeah, I just didn't. You know, I can't do the building like the couple of times I played and I was like,
00:15:03
Speaker
You know, I'm running around and these people like are building this giant structure in front of me. I'm like, what? No, no. I'm here to pew pew. I'm here to pew pew. I'm all out of pew pew. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. It's a fun little game. Yeah. And I guess like you can, you know, all the old skins and everything carry over because I saw like the one over there in the rock band or whatever it's called festival, I think. And it was like Batman playing drums and, you know,
00:15:33
Speaker
Darth Vader playing guitar. Well, that's where Fortnite really went. They really were smart people. Freakin love those skins. Yeah. Yeah. They really got that right. Yeah. I mean, I mean, they have skins for everything. I mean, I think they have got like, you know, Ripley and the Predator and all kinds of terminator, all kinds of stuffs in there. They must have just gone to every major studio and was like here. How much money for us to have everything? Right? Yeah.
00:16:05
Speaker
Cause I have all the Marvel stuff. Yeah. And they did it well. Yeah. They're not like crappy knockoffs. They look good. They're good character models. They, yeah. So they really killed it with the skins. That was like, yeah. Where they really, really stepped it up. Yeah. That was smart. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just old man. When I first log in, there's like 8,000 things on the homepage and I'm like, whoa, this overload. Right. So.
00:16:32
Speaker
Yeah, my my brother and I are playing a World War II shooter. This got cosmetics is the only thing you can really unlock is because my guy is some tiny little unlocks, but they're like blush lipstick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you can't see it. So it's the point. Yeah. So only you're the people playing against you. Right. You're smart. Yeah. And see it. That's about it. Right. It's like, well, this is dumb. I was like, Destiny so many times, you know,
00:16:59
Speaker
I mean, yeah, if you grab a sword, you can see your character or you do an emote. But other than that, cutscenes, that's it. It definitely has the same problem. Yeah. To be fair, the cosmetics and destiny kind of suck.
Philosophy of Timekeeping
00:17:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just shaders and things like that. Yeah, for spooky season, I did get the it's like a big tarantula kind of costume for the Titan.
00:17:21
Speaker
Okay, that's cool. Yeah, but I was never really impressed with the just running around Yeah, you know, that's one of the things about dust down though has the same problem like yeah. Yeah, it's kind of meh, right? Yeah Let's say was it Call of Duty started it with a you know You could have like the little charms that hung at the end of your gun barrel and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so That was you know, that was a big do it. Yeah
00:17:51
Speaker
Call of Duty. Now they're giving away Call of Duty because it's so bad. Yeah, I haven't played Cotton Wolf on how long? Yeah, I mean, I think Black Ops might have been the last time I played a Call of Duty game. Yeah. The first Black Ops, not even Black Ops 2. It was fine. It was the same. And I'm not right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should have transitioned to the
00:18:21
Speaker
Service years ago. Yeah What's like I know this year chris judge got some flack at game awards because he was like, yeah my They're cutting me off of my speech is a minute and a half or whatever. He's like, yeah It's still longer than the call of duty campaign this year. Yeah Yeah, so It's not wrong. No, no, not at all. Yeah, it's not wrong Well, you know
00:18:47
Speaker
And that's weird because I enjoyed like the the early colleges had actually real campaigns. And I enjoyed it. And then they just kind of got away from that. Yeah. Yeah. When you had like soap and ghost and all those guys. Yeah. Gosh. And real that sniper mission. Oh, you had to crawl through and everything. Maybe.
00:19:13
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, famously, the the one on the airplane. Oh, yeah. And to rescue the hostages. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Which five, they just want to be a multiplayer game. Yeah. Yeah, but don't try to say you're still doing a campaign. Yeah. Don't put it out as single player campaign. Just just be honest with everybody. No, we're we're doing that. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine. Exactly.
00:19:43
Speaker
That's why I'm just playing Diablo as a single player experience. Oh, cool. Yeah. So my neighbor jumps on all the time. Yeah. It's a play. I'm like, it's fine. Yeah. What's the Christmas or the holiday event going on right now in Diablo, right? Yeah, late winter, I think it's called. OK. I haven't messed with it. Yeah. I'm still working through the campaign.
00:20:12
Speaker
The mid-winter blade, that's what it's called. My neighbor was like, you're not done the campaign yet. I'm like 50, level 55 or 56 or something like that. It's like, I was done by level 35. I'm like, yeah, well, I've done, I think every side. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. You're a completionist. No, I'm not completionist in that game. No, no, no. There's too much. But I just, I'm not going to not do missions. They're there. Yeah, exactly.
00:20:43
Speaker
Well, that was the problem I had with the Witcher. Right. Yeah. That's what I had with. There's a question mark there. I have to. Assassin's Creed. There was so much crap on your map and you're like, Oh my God. Let's say there's a new Assassin's Creed out Mirage or whatever. And I used to play every Assassin's Creed. I had no idea to even come out. Yeah. I kind of got off the Assassin's Creed train early. Yeah.
00:21:08
Speaker
which don't really have a good reason for. Yeah, it's supposed to be like back towards the original style where you're actually hiding and assassinating on like Valhalla and Odyssey, where you just went through and brute forced everything. Right. So yeah, Assassin's Creed Valhalla. That was not. No, that was, you know, Viking Plunder. That's fun, I guess. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, but it wasn't. No, there was no Assassin's Creed to it. Right.
00:21:38
Speaker
You got to, you know, find all the feathers. Oh, God. That was what, brotherhood? Well, that was the original. Was that the first one? Mm hmm. Yeah. It was original. I had to find all the feathers. You had to kill all the night templars and you had to find all the lookout points. Yeah. In each map. And it was an old Altair. Yeah.
00:22:05
Speaker
That's pretty much the game that broke my completionist part, my brain, because I couldn't do it. Yeah. It's just like, I'm going to get through this story. Yeah. Well, topic one. Yeah, I think we've rambled about games for enough. So this is just a weird topic that, you know,
00:22:31
Speaker
I was at the gym the other day and I do planks and then I do six inches. Looking backwards over my head, I'm looking at the clock that's on the wall. It's upside down, but my brain is able to take upside down information and turn it upside down again in my eyes and then
00:22:55
Speaker
turn it again upside down so that my brain understands it and it really messed with my head for a second. I was just sitting there going, so my brain is upside down. What side's right? Because your eyes perceive everything upside down and then translate that to right side up.
00:23:22
Speaker
Do you think there are people whose eyes don't do the second part? Oh, my God. They think just the other living in upside down land. Yeah. Like, do you think there's people whose eyes don't make it right side up again? There might be like something terrible. Yeah. That. Oh, just, you know. Yeah. I mean, with it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. If there's that little like
00:23:51
Speaker
glitch in the optic nerve or something, I guess. Yeah. Right. There's got to be people out there. Brains are not extrapolating the data correctly. Oh, my gosh. They have to wear special glasses that flips everything over to start with. Yeah. If we wear those glasses, those upside down glasses. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. That also led to me going down a physicist rabbit hole on the YouTube. Oh, no. Boy, that was your brain. Yeah.
00:24:21
Speaker
Well, I mean, the thing is, everything you're seeing, is it really there? No, it's upside down or it's upside down? Yeah, the upside down to the upside down. And it's just things that your mind is creating for you to interact with. That's not really there. I'm not sure what Neil deGrasse Tyson's end game is. To break people's minds. Right. Like what? Yeah. What is the goal here? Yeah. I don't need you to give me
00:24:49
Speaker
Just enough physics and information to scare the crap out of me. Yeah. Yeah. That's his job. He sits at Night of Chuckles about that. Yeah. Neil, we know you're listening. That's got to be what he's doing because what other reason is there to give everybody that information? Yeah. Like him and that guy, Brian Cox. Boy. Yeah.
00:25:12
Speaker
I'm not saying you guys are very smart people. Yeah. But you also create nightmare fuel. Right. You're ruining my life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can't. I don't think it was one of them, but, you know, it was one of those somebody like that talking about the, you know, fixing the calendar and stuff like that and how, you know, well, again, time's just a made up figment of us and this and that and they're like, you know, if we
00:25:40
Speaker
was switched to 1328 day months. And you just had a leap year every year or something like that. It like fixes everything. Well, to be fair, our calendar is pretty screwed up. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's stupid. But yeah, it was something like you switched it. So every month was 28 days and New Year's.
00:26:06
Speaker
Everybody that was the extra day you have every year. There's that extra day that you just had. Everybody has off because it's the new year and then you start with one. Hmm. And every fourth year you have two because for the leap year or whatever, I don't know. But they were saying that. Yeah. So you would like, you know, the first would always be. Monday. Yeah. So you'd always start on a Monday or Sunday, whatever it was, but you would always know, hey,
00:26:35
Speaker
If it's the eighth, uh, you know, it's always going to be on a Tuesday or something. Huh? Yeah. Well, that would suck. Would it? Yeah. Cause then your birthday is never going to be on a weekend. If you're one of those people. Yeah. I didn't plot it out. No, ours, we'd be good. Yeah. We'd be good, but other people would screw them. That's fair. Well, what our day birthday be good because, uh, you got to take the last day of the,
00:27:03
Speaker
Yeah, yours would be on a Saturday, my movie on a Friday. But would it? Because you've got to take all those days before it out. Oh God. Well, that's a thing. Well, nobody's yet. What about the poor bastards who are born on the 30th or the 31st or the 29th? Right. Did they just eliminate theirs? No, because they'd be like the fifth now because you've got to take all those days out and because you're adding a whole other month. So they would be born in. Yeah. Ron, you worry.
00:27:32
Speaker
You know, no, I got in a hole, but this is totally a part of your conversation. I got in a hole. I was looking up a topic for another project and doing some research. And then I got in this rabbit hole of calendar stuff. And did you know, so historians count year zero.
00:27:55
Speaker
Right. OK. Yeah. So there is a year zero. Right. Right. There's zero A.D. Right. There's no zero B.C. There's one B.C. Yeah. This is zero and zero. Yeah. So you have 364 days in that zero. What? Yeah. So the year zero, there are 364 days until you're at year one.
00:28:21
Speaker
No, there's 365 days in year zero and then there's... Or 365, whatever. Then there's year one. Yeah. But physicists and geologists, there is no zero. So other people, other, I guess, professions and disciplines, there is year one and then there's year negative one.
00:28:49
Speaker
There is no year zero. How do you, how do you have a negative year? So, I mean, I've had a negative year before, but right. So for them, BCE one is negative one. Okay. But wait, but no, for them is zero negative one. That's my problem. So they seemingly the way I went through this in my head a lot. Yeah.
00:29:19
Speaker
to the way it seems to me is they say AD zero is year one. So to them, this is 2024. Huh? Instead of 2023. Yeah. Like today, right now. Yeah. December 16th, 2024 in their world. In their world. Or in their,
00:29:47
Speaker
Their interpretation. Right. Well, I mean, again, as we broke my mind once before, you know, time is a construct that we created. It doesn't matter. And it's not worth anything. And that's true, too. You know, then it gets more complicated. Oh, no. Because in what, 15? No. Yeah, 15 80s. We lost 10 days. Wait, what? Yes.
00:30:16
Speaker
How do you lose 10 days? Well, cause we switched over calendars and then we did it again in the 17 hundreds. So we are 11 days. And from what I was reading, we need to lose like three more days now to get the solstice back correctly. Like right now we're still three days over or something like that. Yeah.
00:30:43
Speaker
And then the French screwed it up because they changed their calendar system in the 1790s. So everything's a little fucked up. What can we get rid of Valentine's Day? I don't think it's a week. We did lose 10 days. They just need to like, this is December 16th. Tomorrow will be December
00:31:15
Speaker
90s. Because we don't have an observational calendar. That's the problem. We have the bullshit Gregorian calendar. Well, but it's based off a formula, right? Yes. It's not based off observation. Right. So as we dripped, that's what happened for the Gregorian calendar is that it drips
00:31:42
Speaker
The julian counter drifted so far away from the solstice, they had to fix it. Well, that's why Easter's on a different day every year, right? So that's why the julian counter exists that they were trying to calculate Easter.
Debates on Daylight Saving Time
00:32:01
Speaker
It's supposed to be
00:32:05
Speaker
the first weekend after the first full moon after the spring sultus, I think, or something like that. Yeah, because that sounds like a very Judah Christianity thing as opposed to a pagan thing. Let me tell you this. Yeah. The Jewish calendar doesn't have month names. What? Yeah. They're just numbers. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:36
Speaker
Next thing you know, you're going to tell me that the way the Brits do it and they do day, month, year, that makes sense. So it does make a lot more sense. But what makes more sense than day, month, year is year, month, day. Year. Oh. Which is the. So the 2023 1216. Yes. Oof.
00:33:02
Speaker
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense in archiving information. Because if you think about how you would archive data, you would archive it by year and by month and then by day. So if you wanted to pull up a newspaper from 12-16-23, you would look in 2023 in December and then get to the 16th.
00:33:28
Speaker
You wouldn't look up every December in the archive, right? What don't we just say today is the 350th day of 2023. Oh boy. It's another argument to be made. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can totally get rid of the months. You need years. Do you?
00:33:55
Speaker
for record keeping, you do, because otherwise, so if you got rid of years, right? I'm just going to start going by Solstice is Solstai. Chief Christopher Truitt needs to look up a EMS report from the 340th day from the summer Solstice.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah. Two solstice solstices ago. Right. Like that's going to be a real nightmare for him to find that information. Chief, I need to take a 340th day off around the Vernal Equinox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So.
00:34:33
Speaker
Uh, yeah. Okay. Well, we'll let you keep your ears. I keep yours, but we should have a, we need to have a accepted standard as to what the year is because now that I know that there's not, it's really messing on my brain. Well, that's, that was a whole nother Neil deGrasse Tyson thing where he was talking about how we there, he was like in 10 years or something, we actually need to count an extra leap day. Or I can't remember what it was because he was saying how the, you know, the days are,
00:35:01
Speaker
or the years are getting longer or something. There's something like that. I don't know. It's terrifying. Well, and like the calendar itself has an expiration date. It's only good for so many years and then it has to be renewed.
00:35:22
Speaker
So formula that we, I don't know. I think it's not going to be in our lifetime, but the formula we use to calculate our calendar has to be renewed anyways. Yeah. Yeah. I've broken him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh God.
00:35:46
Speaker
You know, this is what happens when you have artificial constructs that keep your life from check. I know what days to pay your bills, but the day somebody says, Hey, you're late paying me that I'd be like, no, I'm on the Julian counter and I owe you that in 10 days. Yeah. Or 11, if you go by the French day that they took away. I'm not late to work. I'm 10 days early. Yeah.
00:36:17
Speaker
Well, in the whole I got into this discussion the other day, we're talking about like what's called daylight savings, which is made up crocs. Yeah, we don't need it. We do not need it. No. Yeah, that's fair. Oh, really? No. Fall back, spring forward, kiss my ass. No. What? Seven is seven is seven.
00:36:46
Speaker
This is the worst year that I can remember daily savings effect. I feel like it's this year has been really particularly dark early. Yes. And well, the sun's burning out. That's not, that's not happening. You're fine. No riding. Don't listen to me. I'm broken. But for some reason this year has felt very,
00:37:18
Speaker
Hard to adjust to the darkness. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I get off it. You know, three thirty sometimes four most days and it's like dusk when I get home. No, no. Yeah. But my days that I get off work and we've had not even really a bad night, which is a night where I need a nap when I get home. Right. I'll get my nap. Go to the gym.
00:37:47
Speaker
And it'll be dark. Yeah. So basically I missed a day. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's like right now I'm looking outside. It's 830 in the morning and it looks like it's like 11 or 12 outside. Yeah. It's like super bright and shiny and everything. It's like, no, no. Yeah. Well, what's your congressman? Yeah. Well, and then what about these, you know, these poor people that like. What is it?
00:38:14
Speaker
Indiana and Arizona, there's like five states that don't do daylight savings now. Right. And can you imagine like if you're on the line of like the time change? I think there's a state that doesn't do daylight savings time in partially the state. Oh, my God. Right. Like I thought I got to go to work, so I've got to turn my watch back an hour. You're going to have two watches. Or you don't work in there. Either don't live in the weird one or don't work in the weird one, whichever way it is.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's the answer. You can't imagine it. Yeah, we're going to go see a movie. Oh, well, we got a factor in the daylight savings for the, you know, time warp your ass to the right theater. God. Well, I mean, that's smartwatches. Would they automatically calculate? I don't know. I don't know how that would work. Could you break your phone by walking back and forth, back and forth?
00:39:10
Speaker
But that's got to be already hard for some people. There's people who live close to the, I'm sure there's towns where the movie theater is across the time zone. Yeah. So you have to like, oh shit, the movie was an hour ago. Crap. Well, I mean, time zones are another construct. Yeah. Kind of. People make the argument that we should get rid of time zones and just have an international. And for some reason, they don't
00:39:40
Speaker
They think it should be the Greenwich line. They think it's supposed to be some line that runs through the center of the United States. Really? They're the same people that thought God put gold plates in Pennsylvania. No, no. It's a physicist argument. It's an argument by very smart people about why it's... I just couldn't follow the argument. But the problem with that is, yes, it would make banking an easier, but it would really screw with a lot of people's brains.
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta get up for work. It's midnight. I think a time zone works. Yeah, but it's just this, like you said, I know it's not arbitrary, but it's this line that's just poof here to time changes. Well, and the time zones don't even work the way we think they work because
00:40:35
Speaker
as you go more North, the time zones are different than the South of the time. Oh yeah. So the time zones are, they're wackadoodle anyways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kids go look to see where the moon is. Just wanted to break your brain a little bit. We just go out to sundials and solve more problems. Yeah.
00:41:01
Speaker
When do I have to be up? Well, when the sun comes out, when I go to sleep, sun goes down. Yeah. Yeah. That's what your body's made for. Yeah. Yeah. Little primitive brains are, you know, like they want that. More people would follow that rule. I wouldn't have to work at night. Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. I don't. For more people would stay in bed at night. I would be fine. Oh my gosh. Yes.
00:41:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's I think that's a big problem. There's not people getting their good seven, eight hours of sleep at night. Oh, yeah, that's a huge problem. Yeah. You can imagine the number of problems we would fix if we just were talking to somebody like, you know what? Go take a nap. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look here. Have a, you know. Glass of water, a little snack. Go take a nap and tell me how you feel after that.
00:41:57
Speaker
That person's not going to wake up angry. No, nobody would give you give somebody a little snack and a nap. See, kindergarten had it right. What you're saying is instead of EMS, we should just have little snack bags. Oh, my gosh. We're right up a grant for that. And we are government works. I'll get millions of dollars for it. We'll get billions of dollars for specialized nap pads. Oh, my gosh. Like those little Padgett kindergarten. Yes. We'll carry around.
00:42:27
Speaker
Oh, you're having chest pains. I recommend a 25 minute nap. Yeah. Let's know how you feel after after your snacks. Yeah. But I think, you know, naps are all well and good, but unless you can set it, you know, I'm going to fall asleep now and wake up now, then it's it's a gamble. Not for me. I am a professional napper.
00:42:52
Speaker
That's like one of the most irrelevant things from video games. If I could say sleep at 10, wake up at six, done. Yeah. If I could tell my dog to sleep at 10 and wake up at six, that'd be good. If I could tell my dog that on weekdays when I'm up, you can get up with me on weekends, stay your ass in bed. God. Seriously, she's like a little kid. You have two dogs too. Do your dogs do this?
00:43:20
Speaker
Do they go outside at the same time or do they go out and shifts? It depends. My dogs are always shift workers. One goes out, then the other one that comes in, then the other one goes out. It's insane. Yeah. Sometimes, like in the morning, it's usually shifts. Yeah. It's like, I could be going back to sleep if we would hurry this up, but you two have to do the pass on report.
00:43:46
Speaker
Oh, there were three new smells. There's something in the corner. You check it out. That's what's going on. It's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Cyber Attacks and Holiday Traditions
00:43:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dogs. Well, that's the other thing. I mean, daylight savings and all these things, they mess with dogs and kids. Oh, yeah. Dogs don't like it. No. It takes them a good week. Oh, yeah. Figure it out. And looking at you like, hello, it's dinnertime. Right. Yeah.
00:44:15
Speaker
Well, that's a thing. I mean, you know, dogs, if you don't feed them exactly on time, they wither away and die within a matter of seconds. Yeah. Which is what everybody didn't realize about dogs that they have precise clocks built into their eyeballs. Yeah. They'll know exactly what time it is because boy, do they know exactly what time it is. Yes. Insane. Yeah. Yeah. Well, sight changing off of that. Wife and kids were watching some
00:44:45
Speaker
movie last night. I can't remember what the name of it was. I watched part of it and then it started to get like spooky tense. So I started watching my iPad. But yeah, it was like there was some cyber attack or something, but like it started messing with the radio waves, which was affecting migration things and all this kind of stuff. And I don't know, it started to get like that weird
00:45:13
Speaker
M night Shyamalan, tense music and hammer angles. I was like, Hey, this is starting to get spooky. I'm good. I'm out. Well, like the wood girl walks in the backyard. She's like, look at the deer. And there's like a thousand deer in their backyard. Yeah, no, no. Yeah. So I don't know. They still have like an hour of it to watch tonight. I'm like, Hey, you enjoy that.
00:45:39
Speaker
I don't understand that system either, but I think that's from not being a woman. What? I'm going to watch half a movie tonight and the other half tomorrow night. Well, I feel like I broke your brain. You did. Yeah. Move right on to topic two. Sure. Mission accomplished. Yeah. My mind is jelly right now.
00:46:06
Speaker
Well, before we get into topic two, I think you'll appreciate this. We were on our own. It was myself, my mother, who is a devout Christian, lovely woman, and my youngest. We were on our way back from Pennsylvania for a field hacking tournament. And my youngest was talking about some Netflix series, one of those, and it was about this cult in California where the lady thought that Robin Williams was talking to her from the grave.
00:46:34
Speaker
OK. And all the end, he was going to come get her on this spaceship and she had to get down to one hundred and five pounds so she could ride the spaceship. And she had this cult following. So she heard all these celebrities talk to her, but Robin was the one that was coming back and she died because she stopped eating to drop weight and they were giving her some silver nitrate, but some silver supplement that I mean, she was blue by the end.
00:47:02
Speaker
Oh, that's good. She died. Spaceship never came. But the cult kept her body there for 12 days, just in case. But we're talking about this. And my mother goes, what kind of lunatic thinks that someone is talking to them from the beyond and they're going to come back from being dead and take them to the Promised Land?
00:47:28
Speaker
I said, what? She was like, well, aside from Jesus, that makes sense. Naturally. Yep. 100%. All you can do is chuckle to myself. Yep. Oh, yeah. One clearly makes more sense than the other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:54
Speaker
I just I mean, she was like getting so angry about this cult and like, you know, degrading what they were doing and everything. I'm like, well, I'm here. Look at it. But at least they don't eat the body and blood of the lady. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. My topic, I was trying to do something a little lighthearted now that you've broken my brain just over the years. What are some good holiday memories?
00:48:25
Speaker
You know, and it doesn't have to be like specific to like, you know, Christmas or Hanukkah or anything like that. I mean, it could be like, you know, over Christmas break from school things and all like one of my best was 96, 97 when we had that blizzard and we didn't go to school for like two and a half weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And it like it was like right after Christmas break. So it was like super vacation.
00:48:48
Speaker
It was midterms for us because I remember I had like my French midterm for, that must have been what, sophomore or junior year? That was junior year. Junior year, yeah. Because the seniors didn't have to make any of those days up. Right. And I remember my French midterm was delayed for like three weeks. Wow. And I still didn't study the entire time.
00:49:11
Speaker
But it was also it was a time where kids had to, you know, sit and watch the stock report at the bottom of the screen to see if, you know, school was canceled. Oh, we had to listen to 93 7 WSTW. As opposed to now where they get a text. Yeah, they hear if your school was canceled. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. This isn't a Christmas one. It's a Valentine's Day one. Oh, my mother used to get us video games for Valentine's Day. Nice. And we one year we got Super Mario
00:49:42
Speaker
three. Okay. And that was a good time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My mom would always get us this sound, not real ones, but she would get us guns for Easter. Every Easter we got Nerf guns or like a super soaker or something. But yeah, it was always something. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the Christmas that
00:50:10
Speaker
I can't remember what the toys were called. Do you remember? Of course, it was a cartoon that sold these. There were these guys. It was like something up in the mountains or way up high. And like there were these little guys on ziplines and stuff like the vehicles would come apart and you could send them down a zipline. It had like anchor points you put across your house and stuff. I do sort of remember that. That wasn't mask. That was something I was thinking about mask. Yeah.
00:50:37
Speaker
But in like the little guys, they had like this thing that clipped to their arm, but it was like a bungee cord. But my mom let us run them to and from the Christmas tree. Nice. Yeah. And it was great until the cats attacked. Right. And then the three were the ones that I mean, it's a dumb toy. It had little magnets in the boots and they were like, everything was magnetic. Yes. Yeah. I don't know what they were called. Yeah. They were pretty badass. Yeah.
00:51:07
Speaker
Now, did your parents give you like a time like you can't get up on Christmas morning till 6 a.m. or whatever? Um, no, but my parents were both shift workers. Oh, yeah. So we kind of just did Christmas.
00:51:25
Speaker
whenever. Gotcha. Um, and we had to be at my, on Christmas day, we had to be at my grandmother's house for breakfast. Okay. So we had to be up pretty early to be get Christmas presents done at the house and then get to the grandmother's house. Yeah. We used to do that at my mom's house. We have breakfast, but now we do that the day before. So that way Christmas is just a lazy day for us. Yeah. You know, I was talking to my shift about this.
00:51:51
Speaker
Um, cause we worked Christmas this year and I was like, what do you guys want to do? Do you want to have a big, big dinner? Just talking to my six people at work. That's the way it should be. Right. I was like, do you guys want to have a big dinner or do you want to just like have a big breakfast? And then we just kind of snack for the whole day. And they're like, Oh yeah, we want, we want the breakfast and then snacking. And of course the maniac who works on another station was like, no, we have to have a get together as a shift. I'm like, Nope, my job is to be out here. Yep.
00:52:18
Speaker
We will Google meet in. Right. But nobody wants to have Christmas Eve and then have Christmas day. Like it's too much. Yeah. We don't have to have three big meals in a row. No. Like A-Shift, the maniacs that are A-Shift, they had, they were off Thanksgiving because of B-Shift worked. Yeah. And that they had Thanksgiving dinner with all the Thanksgiving stuff the next day. Yeah.
00:52:43
Speaker
Like that's insane. Yeah. It's too much people. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a disgusting holiday anyway. It's fair, but I just, I like, I, I always hated as a kid, the, cause I had, you know, I mean, I had my great grandmother and then I had my both grandparents, one of my great, my dad's parents were divorced. And then I had three sets of grandparents to deal with. So you'd have like,
00:53:10
Speaker
It just felt like Christmas Eve, Christmas day, like a Saturday before Christmas. You just always had something going on. It was too much. Yeah. Yeah. And where, you know, I was a split family. We had, you know, dad's side and mom's side. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My dad's side and my mom's side did not get along. So we had, because everything had to be separate. Yeah. You know, so we were going to go to my mother's
00:53:37
Speaker
For parents for Christmas day, we had to go to the other ones for Christmas Eve. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I wish my parents had, because I feel like my dad was very much like me who would have just been, if he had had the social graces of me and just be like, we're not coming. This is too much. Yeah. Yeah. We'll do one place each year. Right. Yeah. It's a lottery. Maybe you'll be the lucky place this year. Yeah.
00:54:06
Speaker
I just, it's so much. And then I couldn't imagine, you know, nowadays with just how far my family has spread out to try to do that. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I mean, my sister's up at, you know, in Massachusetts and I was like, we'll see you sometime. Right. Yeah. And I mean, my brother was, I mean, he's in Gaysburg, but it's not that far, but it's still, I don't want to travel every day. Right now.
00:54:33
Speaker
He was like, well, you want to go up for Christmas Eve? Like, man, I got to work Christmas Day. Yeah. I don't want to drive two hours, drive two hours home, drive two hours to work. You know, yeah, no, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. Let's say I'm just glad that I've finally gotten it through to all my family that the adults don't do gifts. I mean, I wish I could get that through my family. It's like, you know, we spend some time together or whatever, but
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, I was texting my brother and sister. I was like, you know, let's, you know, I'm not going to get you a gift card so you can get me a gift card. Right. Yeah. You know, it's like, you know, we're all grown adults. We can buy our own things. You know, that way we don't have to say, Oh, you know, don't buy anything, you know, for the last couple of months now. This year, my wife and I, cause our bed frame broke. So we need a new bed frame. We're just like, you know what? Oh, did it now.
00:55:31
Speaker
Sadly, not that way. Ah, that's a story you got to tell. Yeah, it just broke. I don't know. Yeah, nothing funny. But you can blame Atticus. It was just not by presence. We're just going to buy a bed frame. Yeah. We don't have to buy each other anything. Right. Just a bed frame. Then our birthday is three days later. So I have to offer your birthday. Yeah. That's it. We don't really do stuff like that anymore.
00:56:01
Speaker
You don't do anything? Not really. Nice. I wish. Yeah. Well, and we didn't last year. I don't think we did that year before. And then this year I was like, you know, I'm tired of my wife. I was like, so, you know, we're not going to do the present thing again, right? And she's like, I guess I can move something to your birthday. I was like, why would you call an audible? Oh, God. Well, the maniac's on my shift. One of the maniacs. What do you get this for Christmas? Nothing.
00:56:29
Speaker
I am the present. You've gotten me as your boss. You should be thankful. That's really it. But why do I have to buy you something? I know. We are, we are randomly assigned to the station together. Yeah. That's, we're not a kid. They each give you a wish list. You're supposed to be like Santa and just like touch your nose and know what they want.
00:56:57
Speaker
God, what did you get me last year? You know what you should do? You should you have what? Five other people? Yes.
Quirky Holiday Foods and Traditions
00:57:04
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Yeah, you should buy five random things, wrap them all up and let them do a Yankee swap. Have them randomly draw numbers and they just. Yep. What they get is what they get. You got.
00:57:18
Speaker
Shampoo. Yeah. Yeah, it's. But like four times this person's asked, what are you going to for Christmas? Nothing. It's a day that we have to work together. Right. That's it. Yeah. Why should I drop my heart or money on your grown ass adult? Yeah. Get your own damn money. Yeah. Oh, let me get you some Chachki that you're never going to use or, you know, or a gift card that I think you might like.
00:57:48
Speaker
Right. We are we are coworkers. Yeah. That is the extent of our relationship. We're friendly coworkers. I mean, it's one thing if you do like the like a secret Santa. OK, whatever. Sure. But that way it's you know, it's spread out and it's not. Yeah. So what is the fire chief supposed to get all hundred and want two of us a gift? Well, yeah, according to this theory.
00:58:17
Speaker
That's a admin. We did a white elephant. I think we're going to do nothing. I didn't want to do that, but. Can we can we just do nothing? Yeah, yeah. I will say at least that's the awkwardness of, you know, do we all pitch in and get, you know, or something? No, we white elephant. Yeah. I don't know. It's it's just like you said, it's this random day once a year, you're specific. No.
00:58:46
Speaker
What happened? Like, and this is going to sound harsh. It's your holiday, not mine. Yeah. No, you're exactly right. But like, I don't celebrate your holiday. Why should I partake? Just like, why should there be a Christmas tree in my face every time I go eat my breakfast in the goddamn station? Well, there should also be a menorah and the, uh, I don't know what the, or there could just be nothing. Yeah. Just nothing.
00:59:17
Speaker
Oh, wait, we got to do something. It's Christmas. Next year, I'm going to put the Yule lads up in admin. Yes. Yes, please. What's that? It's potlicker. Watch yourself. I just don't I just dress up like the Yule cat. Yes. The older and older I get, the more it annoys me and it shouldn't. I should just be like, OK, whatever, but.
00:59:44
Speaker
just you're forcing me to partake in your not even religious holiday. It's just a bonkers holiday anymore. It is. Yes. Yes. Especially now that we know that and gave out the Dunkin Donuts gift cards. Well, your talk earlier about how we've lost days and weeks and things. Who knows what day it really was? Well, we know it wasn't December 25th. Oh, yes. That's pretty clear from the Bible. You don't lay them in the winter.
01:00:14
Speaker
Mm. Lamb. Lamb. Lamb is pretty good. Well, so back to the holiday stuff. Did you ever get like the oranges and nuts? Oh, every year. Yeah. Yeah. Every year you're stocking. Yep. Oranges, lifesaver, the little lifesavers. Yeah. The book of lifesavers. Yeah. Yeah. Every year. And I remember one year my
01:00:44
Speaker
Spoiler alert, folks, my mother got us each a giant candy. Well, Santa, the giant candy game, you know, those ones that were like an inch in diameter and like a foot long. Have you seen those? Yes, it's a candy rod. Yes. What child is going to really eat that whole thing? So my brother and I, though, being the dumb children we were, we would
01:01:11
Speaker
gnaw on it or whatever, but then we would put a plastic bag over the end that we had gnawed on with a rubber band and put it in the refrigerator. Why? Because everything's better in the fridge. Because you don't want it to go bad, you know, preservation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then it would get tucked in the back and then you would find it around Easter and it would be a lovely shade of green. Yeah.
01:01:40
Speaker
My great-grandmother made, I guess she would call them Italian cookies, but I don't think she would have called them Italian cookies. I don't know what she would have called them, but she made these cookies every year and they were terrible. Really? Terrible. They're like almonds with powdered sugar.
01:01:59
Speaker
They're old lady cookies. Yes, very old lady cookies. But she would bring them every year. I mean, she would drive. This woman was in her 90s and she was driving from Pittsburgh to Delaware and she would bring us- Giving out candies along the route. But you, you know, and you would, you would eat, you would have to eat them. I mean, you can't not eat them. Yeah. Yeah. No. It won't work hard. Yeah. Because that was only your parents. You'll break your grandmother's heart if you don't eat that.
01:02:27
Speaker
Okay. So I get the stomach ache. Great. That's cool. And every year she, I, this, I have fond memories of my great-grandmother. She would always crochet us little mailboxes. Yeah. And put money in them. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Cause it was the, yeah, it was those, it was like, it was like a plastic sheet almost inside it to like help it hold its mailbox shape. Yeah. Oh yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about. We would get it too. And my great-grandmother
01:02:57
Speaker
would also she made fudge every year. I don't like fudge. Well, see, I usually don't because I'm not a big chocolate person, but hers wasn't super chocolaty. So it was great. Yeah, it was fine. But yeah, and she would always we have the little mailbox with money and then we would have this little I don't know where she got them, but there were these little like treasure chests almost and it had fudge in them and she would cut little pieces of wax paper for like each layer so they didn't clump all together and.
01:03:27
Speaker
Like our grandmother made nuts and bolts. That was the thing we always had. OK. Yeah. Pretzel rods and Cheerios. Yep. Yep. And then my my father made the worst chocolate chip cookies that ever existed. Every year they were the worst chocolate chip cookies. Yeah. And he was so proud of them. Yeah. And they were so terrible. And my one year he burnt them. He burnt the entire batch. How do you burn it? I can see burning a tray.
01:03:57
Speaker
The entire batch of cookies. Oh, my God. They didn't taste worse. Yeah, because they were still bad. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My great aunt would always make gingerbread and she made these Santas. And I was a kid. So for me, they were like, I don't know, like three feet in diameter, but they weren't really regular cookie size, probably by me. And she would like detail them and like do the boots and every look like Santa at the end. And it was just amazing. The best gingerbread ever.
01:04:26
Speaker
And she passed her recipe down and my dad has tried to recreate it and he does a pretty good job, but there's just something missing. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's it. That my my father every year for Christmas makes cream of crab soup. I'm like, yeah, because nothing says holidays like that. Oh, so in my family, that's so we can have soup all the time now. Really? So there's a thing called
01:04:53
Speaker
Seven fishes. Yeah. Yeah. Seven. Yeah. Italian festival. So we, we, cream crab soup is one of our seven fishes. Pretty regularly. That came from my first stepfather. Okay. Hardcore Italian. Yeah. Um, yeah. My grandmother still always makes ambrosia. Oh yeah. Give me a spoonful of diabetes, please. My grandmother made this
01:05:17
Speaker
terrible. Oh my God. This grossest thing that we ever had to eat. It was, it was a peach, a canned peach cut in half. So it was half a canned peach. And then it was on top of a piece of lettuce on the, hold on. It gets worse. So it was on the fancy China because you know, it's a Christmas thing. Oh yeah. So you got the, the, the lettuce, the slimy ass and peach.
01:05:46
Speaker
And then on top of that was this sour cream and yogurt mixture or something. I don't know what it was. It was so gross. What was she trying to make? I have no idea, but the woman could cook like two things well. She cook a great lasagna, but to eat the lasagna had to eat the fucking peach salad, whatever the hell it was.
01:06:11
Speaker
Like it was like this thing like you had it was like a trial of combat of your stomach, I guess. So bad. Oh, God. I'll have nightmares of that tonight because I thought about it. So gross. Yeah, peach, lettuce and sour cream and yogurt and yogurt and maybe mayonnaise. I'm not sure what it was in that thing was so gross. Oh, well, in a quick search, there's the millionaire salad.
01:06:41
Speaker
But that doesn't have lettuce. I don't remember it being called the millionaire salad, but. I think it was called peach salad with, oh, oh. I think it was just called peach salad. Mm. That's what she called it.
01:06:56
Speaker
And peach salad. She's clearly of that generation where they were confused about words because to her a relish was little cornichons and olives. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We had a relish bowl at every fancy meal. Oh, yeah. You have to have one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have to. Yeah. That's what my grandmother always used to make. Also, she she called it broccoli salad. I think I don't know, but it was like the cranberries in it.
01:07:25
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minced up broccoli, probably a lot of mayonnaise, bacon bits, and something else. It was just like, oh, no, no. I mean, I do like a good broccoli salad. But, yeah. It's a southern thing, I think. Yeah. We never had like a Christmas goose or anything like that. No, we never had a Christmas goose. Yeah.
01:07:51
Speaker
Christmas lasagna and Christmas breakfast casserole. That was our breakfast, breakfast casserole and waffles. Yeah. Yeah. And we had to have, but it's funny. Like maybe this is a very American thing or I don't think it is because I think just historically people had big feasts at holidays. Yeah. But all people really care about is the food. Yeah. That's what,
01:08:19
Speaker
That's what you're really talking about when you talk about the holiday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's why I have warmer memories of Christmas, because that breakfast casserole was amazing. Yeah. And all of this is eggs and sausage and bacon. I'll put it into a, you know, casserole dish. You know, it's just. I'll be eating my oatmeal for Christmas. Nice.
01:08:46
Speaker
I'm not cheating on my diet on Christmas. It's just another day. It is. It is. I have been people like, I was telling my friend. You start Saturnalia tree. I was telling my friend like, Oh yeah. You know, we're doing this clean for clean diet for December. Yeah. And she was like, I don't understand why you can do that. Like the holidays, I'm like, yeah, it's called self-control. Yeah. Got my cookies.
01:09:15
Speaker
do like chocolate chip cookies. My wife makes some damn good chocolate chip cookies. That's like, yeah, Sarah and the girls are going tomorrow to her parents to bake all day to make cookies. I'm sure there's going to be some recipe that my mother-in-law finds that they will try this year. Mmm. Spam cookies. Oh God. No, but just, I don't know. She forgets ingredients sometimes. Oh yeah.
01:09:46
Speaker
Why are the cookies so flat? I couldn't remember said baking soda or baking powder. So I admitted both. It's a good option. It's the good third option. Yeah, I couldn't tell if it said half a cup of sugar or two thirds cup of sugar. So I went with a quarter cup of sugar biscuits. Yeah. So, you know, nothing says Christmas like lasagna with brown sugar and ricotta dip. Ricotta dip.
01:10:16
Speaker
Oh God, his breakfast was discussed the other night, the admin Christmas party. Oh, the one bag of rice and four eggs. Yep. Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Hannah was like Brooks from D shift. We're like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God. True. Oh gosh. You don't put up with two. No. God.
01:10:44
Speaker
Hmm. God bless him. Yeah. Well, um, I hope everybody makes some holiday memories this year.
Weather Memories and Holiday Wishes
01:10:51
Speaker
Yeah. I'd like it to snow. Uh, I'd love it to snow. Yeah. So the other day, got like a half inch of their other day up here. Oh, nice. Yeah. It was like a wintry mix here for a little bit, but yeah, it should snow on the 27th and that way in the 28th, it'll be beautiful. Right.
01:11:12
Speaker
We've had hurricanes on my birthday before. I don't think I've ever actually had snow. Yeah. Yeah. I remember one year, my birthday on the 28th, I was very young. Yeah. Like a terrible wind storm came through. It's like, we used to have an outdoor Christmas tree, which was just a pole with lights. Yeah. And the whole thing got ripped out of the ground. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you look through the calendars, oh wait, you can't look through the calendars because they're not real.
01:11:42
Speaker
I would backtrack when there might have been, you know, there was this snow on this day. This could have technically been the 28th. Who knows? It's true. It could have been the 360 second day of the year. God. Yeah.
Reflections and Future Plans
01:12:01
Speaker
Well, I mean, the next time we have a podcast, you'll be older than me. Yeah, yeah, it'll be. Yeah, our next podcast will go out the first 2024.
01:12:12
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I will be older. Yeah. Always older. Always older. Yeah. Yeah. I feel it some days. I'm obsessed at the neighbors.
01:12:25
Speaker
You what? As I shake my fist at the neighbors. Nice. Discuss the wind. Damn you, wind. I got into that the other day. When was it? I was leaving a meeting. It was like a meeting with like some county health department people. And we walked out and it was super windy. I was like, God damn the wind. Whoever likes the wind, they need to just walk into a wall or something. And this one lady was like, wow, you really don't like the wind?
01:12:52
Speaker
So yeah, I forget to use my end inside, you know, keep that inside. Sometimes I'll let it out. Intervoices, inner voices, inner voice. Yeah. Well, folks have a safe holiday season. Yeah. Yeah. That's important part to us. Exactly. Yeah. Stay safe. Take care of yourselves. If you need to talk to somebody, call one of us, call your friends. Yeah, absolutely. I hope that you'll cat leaves you alone and you get some pajamas on New Year's. So you're safe. Yeah. Thanks for you. Watch out for Spoonlicker. Yep.
01:13:41
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Take care, folks.