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Bike Camping and Star Wars
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Welcome back! This week, after the rigamarole (weather, customer service, Avowed, REPO, EMS, Fire). Ron has dipped his toes into Bike Camping; Chris asks what we want from Star Wars. As always please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Early Podcast Recording and Dunkin' Donuts
00:00:08
Chris
Welcome back to another episode of the mythic draft podcast. I'm Chris.
00:00:11
tothezune
And I'm ah hot off the presses angry Ron, and it just happened this morning.
00:00:16
Chris
Oh God. What? Oh, let me guess. You went for a walk and the you had to walk through a fog of pollen.
00:00:23
tothezune
I haven't gone on the walk yet.
00:00:25
Chris
Oh, and okay.
00:00:26
tothezune
It's Saturday, my wife gets up late. This
00:00:28
Chris
Yeah. The fact that I got in my car yes, two days ago and turned the wipers on and the cloud of pollen off
Empathy for Service Workers
00:00:34
Chris
my windshield. Yeah.
00:00:35
tothezune
is gross. is gross
00:00:37
Chris
yeah
00:00:38
tothezune
No, this is me rising up for the workers.
00:00:42
Chris
Okay.
00:00:42
tothezune
So, you know, somebody's texting me at six o'clock in the morning, you're ready to podcast. So I'm like, luckily, you know, I have a dog that wakes me up at 6.08, so I was already up.
00:00:51
Chris
I did not text you at six o'clock.
00:00:55
tothezune
But I'm up anyways.
00:00:56
Chris
It was quarter of seven.
00:01:00
tothezune
It's still early, you know.
00:01:02
Chris
You said you were up early, so yeah.
00:01:05
tothezune
I was. I was awake. But I...
00:01:07
Chris
Oh, I could see on the camera.
00:01:12
tothezune
why I got to take the Wi-Fi down. yeah I was like, I'm going to go over and get my Dunkin' Iced Tea because I need a little caffeine to wake myself up.
00:01:20
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:21
tothezune
So I'm going order a map, go over to the Dunkin'. This is Dunkin' Donuts. What time of day, if you were to guess, would you think Dunkin' Donuts is the busiest?
00:01:31
Chris
Well, I would say obviously three o'clock in the afternoon.
00:01:35
tothezune
Oh, there's a, yeah, that, I always think donuts at three o'clock in the afternoon. They're always considered a lunch food to me, you know.
00:01:42
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:44
tothezune
So I walk into the Dunkin' Donuts and it's one person. This poor girl is running around like crazy trying to fill orders by herself.
00:01:51
Chris
Oh, gosh.
00:01:54
tothezune
What asshole who runs a Dunkin' Donuts is like, man, we only need one worker in the morning. We could probably have two or three in the afternoon, but would we only need one in the morning.
00:02:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:04
tothezune
bonkers.
00:02:05
Chris
Did you offer to help?
00:02:07
tothezune
I almost put like almost got my Dunkin' Donuts apron on. Went in there and helped.
00:02:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:11
tothezune
No, I did not do that.
00:02:14
tothezune
I still have PTSD from working at Dunkin' Donuts 30 years ago.
00:02:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:21
tothezune
Oh my god. It was 30 years ago.
00:02:22
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah. That's why I still won't really eat Subway because of that.
00:02:31
tothezune
Yeah. That's I don't Domino's either.
00:02:35
Chris
Yeah. ah I mean, I wonder did like, maybe, maybe they're supposed to have three people and somebody called out.
Customer Service Challenges
00:02:44
tothezune
oh no she was even telling how people weren't coming in for another hour yeah that was that's insane and you know because i'm a pro worker she's like i'm so sorry i'm like don't apologize to me
00:02:47
Chris
Oh my gosh.
00:03:00
tothezune
You should be raging against your boss, not against... and you know
00:03:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:06
tothezune
I'm not mad that I've got to wait two minutes.
00:03:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:08
Chris
Right. But you know, there are people who are mad and that, and they take it out on the poor employee.
00:03:11
tothezune
Oh, yeah. hundred percent 100%. Right. Yeah.
00:03:17
Chris
It's one thing if the employee has a shitty attitude or, you know, does something stupid, but for something like that, that's totally out of their control. no
00:03:28
tothezune
You know... I'm starting to get to the point where I believe that the employees deserve to have a shitty attitude. Because, man, everybody treats people like shit. yeah It's so hard to put a smile on and be like, yeah, I don't deal with you assholes every day.
00:03:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:47
tothezune
You know i feel you know, when the company's screwing you over, and you know customer service gotta be the like the worst job like for health insurance companies and stuff where you're just you're getting paid ten dollars an hour to hear people bitch about their health insurance you got nothing to do with that i'm not going to take that out on you the
00:03:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:01
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah,
00:04:07
Chris
yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Stop getting angry at the middleman.
00:04:09
tothezune
yeah
00:04:10
Chris
But people do because that's the outlet.
00:04:12
tothezune
Right. But I can see why those people have shitty attitudes, because if I was getting at every day, I'd have a shitty attitude.
00:04:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. but pa Yeah. Right.
00:04:18
tothezune
You know?
00:04:21
tothezune
It's the conversation EMS, like, we're supposed put smiles on and deliver you coffee with our call.
00:04:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:29
tothezune
ah Attitude was not part of the conversation.
00:04:33
Chris
You guys didn't get the cur eggs that are supposed go in the medic units?
00:04:33
tothezune
Competency...
00:04:36
tothezune
no Yeah.
00:04:39
tothezune
Yeah.
00:04:40
Chris
and I'm sorry, the Nescafés, so it can be a fancy one.
00:04:40
tothezune
I mean...
00:04:44
tothezune
Every complaint I've ever had in my career has been, i wasn't nice enough.
00:04:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:49
tothezune
Or I didn't seem happy enough to be there.
00:04:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:53
tothezune
It wasn't, was I professional?
00:04:56
Chris
Right.
00:04:56
tothezune
Did i take care of the patient? Did I mess up a protocol?
00:04:58
Chris
Yeah.
EMS Expectations vs. Reality
00:05:00
tothezune
It wasn't ever those things. It's always, you weren't smiling enough.
00:05:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:04
Chris
Yeah. Well, I mean, they've they've proven that across health care that patient satisfaction is tied to the bedside manner of the practitioner.
00:05:05
tothezune
Well, the doctor.
00:05:14
tothezune
Sure. i
00:05:15
Chris
I mean, you could have a genius doctor who comes in and, you know, super clinical and everything. And unless it's somebody who understands that they're going to, know, like the last time I was in the hospital, know, the doctor, when he did my follow-up was very just to the point, this is it done.
00:05:34
Chris
And me knowing healthcare, was great. know, he told me exactly what I need to know. Great.
00:05:39
tothezune
Right.
00:05:39
Chris
But anybody else, if he didn't ask me, you know, if my feet were warm enough, it's, I think it's setting those reasonable expectations and we've done a piss poor job of that over the years.
00:05:51
tothezune
Yeah, well, I think that I'm just going to only speak for American society. We just have this idea that people should be nice. Like, I want you to be professional and brusque.
00:06:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:04
tothezune
like
00:06:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:05
tothezune
if get the and you know, the the funny thing in EMS, at least in in my experience, is never the patient who complains.
00:06:11
Chris
Oh, it's always a family member or a but a bystander.
00:06:13
tothezune
Right. Right.
00:06:15
Chris
Ooh.
00:06:16
tothezune
I saw them not being nice to them.
00:06:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:18
tothezune
Or, I'm sorry, you what?
00:06:20
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:21
tothezune
you know You know, like I had the last complaint I had to deal with was the nurse complaining because we were we were asking too many questions.
00:06:28
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:06:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:33
tothezune
but Like, what?
00:06:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:36
tothezune
but Sorry, you're complaining because I asked you to call the hospital? You're complaining because my one firefighter didn't say anything? And then the other person was saying too much? what What's going on? You know.
00:06:48
tothezune
Do you have a complaint? This is how, if I was ever chief of a fire department, is your complaint about the murder protocol? Did they say something racist? Did they say something sexist? Nope.
00:07:00
tothezune
Your complaint goes in the trash.
00:07:00
Chris
yeah
00:07:01
tothezune
Done.
00:07:01
Chris
Right. Well, and as someone who fields quite a few calls, yeah,
00:07:09
tothezune
Sure.
00:07:11
Chris
yeah my goal usually is to, a lot of times, if I just hear the person out, let them vent for five, 10 minutes, by the end, they're fine. They're calmed down and it doesn't go anywhere.
00:07:22
tothezune
what ah i think the problem isn't on our side, but somebody has to say to them, this is not a valid complaint.
00:07:30
Chris
Yep.
00:07:30
tothezune
right like
00:07:30
Chris
Hmm.
00:07:31
tothezune
this is we're less We're wasting our resources even entertaining your complaint.
00:07:36
Chris
Right.
00:07:37
tothezune
Right. this right
00:07:38
Chris
Oh, yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, 20 minutes of my day that I could have spent doing something else.
00:07:43
tothezune
Because you want to complain. like if you There are legitimate complaints about fire departments. right
00:07:47
Chris
Absolutely, yes.
00:07:49
tothezune
I'm not saying there aren't things you can legitimately complain about. But there are so many people complain about things that...
Waitstaff Pressures
00:07:56
tothezune
It doesn't say firefighting with a smile. It says firefighting with professionalism and competence, right?
00:07:59
Chris
Right.
00:08:01
tothezune
Like, did they do the job?
00:08:02
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:08:03
tothezune
Did they do it correctly?
00:08:04
Chris
Right.
00:08:05
tothezune
your loved one better? Right?
00:08:08
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:08
tothezune
Like...
00:08:09
Chris
Well, that's one thing. The new Scott Air, ah the face masks, they actually have a sensor and it's going to give us feedback on number of times smiled during the incident. And that's, yeah, that's going to go on your evaluation.
00:08:21
tothezune
Well, considering they're Scott, they probably won't work for, you know, any of the time. So I'm not real worried about that.
00:08:30
tothezune
Yeah. it a its It just drives me batty where we're at.
00:08:35
Chris
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:08:37
tothezune
and it And watching that show, The Pit, you know, watching the lady complain to the doctor about patient satisfaction scores, i was like, this is exactly what's going on in the world.
00:08:41
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:08:47
tothezune
Like, it's insane.
00:08:48
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. yeah I got to watch that. So perfect example of, well, not perfect example, but so similar to that. So last night wife and I had a kid free night.
00:09:03
Chris
Youngest was all for friends. we're like, okay. So now ah my wife said, yeah.
00:09:08
tothezune
was your patience.
00:09:11
Chris
Um, she's like, let's act like crazy people. We'll go to the movies and and dinner afterward. i was like, oh God, I'm not gonna dinner until like seven 30. All right.
00:09:19
tothezune
yes
00:09:21
Chris
So we go to this movie and well, side tangent, she, she had sent me the, the, the movie was called the drop or drop. I don't know. But she sent me like the synopsis is like, you know, this person's out to dinner for the first year, goes on a date, there's widower after so many years and then starts getting these weird messages on her phone. And, you know, I'm like, oh yeah okay, this sounds intriguing.
00:09:45
Chris
So we're pulling up to the theater and my wife goes, well, don't worry. If you get scared, you can hold my hand. I said, excuse me. She's well, yeah, this is like a scary thriller. I was like, the hell is wrong with you woman? Why am I going to this movie?
00:10:00
tothezune
Bye.
00:10:00
Chris
like, well, it's supposed to be more like, you know, make you think at all. was like, okay, whatever. So get to the movie. And the first like three trailers are straight up horror trailers. i was like, this is not good.
00:10:14
Chris
Luckily the movie wasn't super scary or anything it did make you think more than anything. i was like, okay, it wasn't a bad movie. It wasn't great. But anyway, so we get done, go to restaurant.
Maryland Road Infrastructure
00:10:25
Chris
And it's Olive Garden. We're like, let's just go to a crappy, you know, act like teenager.
00:10:30
Chris
date night so we went there hey it's not that busy for
00:10:35
tothezune
Well, la-dee-da, Mr. Teenager went to Olive Garden.
00:10:40
tothezune
I didn't realize we were fancy pants.
00:10:44
Chris
so we sit down and there's a table beside us and they were like finishing up their meal and waiter comes by and you know this and that well he comes back with our drinks and he's got the table next to us is dessert and he gives us our waters and he was like I'll open the bottle of wine in a minute.
00:11:03
Chris
I got, yeah. ah he You can tell he's frazzled. We're like, Hey, just set it down and take them their dessert. He was like, are are you sure? We're like, yes. Get them their dessert. We're fine. Take your time.
00:11:15
Chris
Came back. He was super appreciative and thankful. And it's like, man, how beat up during a work shift are you that if somebody just says, Hey, no, take them their food. You, you act elated about.
00:11:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:28
tothezune
Have you ever been waiter at a Olive Garden?
00:11:31
Chris
No, I haven't.
00:11:32
tothezune
hello
00:11:33
Chris
God.
00:11:33
tothezune
i ah Those have got to be the lowest of the low people, right? Yeah.
00:11:39
Chris
Yeah. Well, that's what I don't understand. People getting angry with the waitstaff.
00:11:46
tothezune
I don't understand the bonkers decision to piss off the waitstaff.
00:11:50
Chris
Right. Yeah. This is someone who could easily spit or urinate in your food on the way back.
00:11:53
tothezune
right These people are going to be 100% control of your food.
00:11:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:59
tothezune
Why would you piss them off?
00:12:00
Chris
Yeah. What the, what was it, waiting or something like that?
00:12:06
tothezune
yeah Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:12:07
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch that. You won't piss off a food service person.
00:12:11
tothezune
yeah I just don't...
00:12:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:12
tothezune
That's a bonkers like decision process to me. Like, yeah, this person's got 100% control of the thing that's going to go in my gullet.
00:12:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:20
Chris
Yeah. Well, it's just like pissing off the paramedic who's taking care of you.
00:12:23
tothezune
That's true, too.
00:12:24
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:26
tothezune
I mean, that rarely ever happens, though.
00:12:26
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:30
tothezune
It's usually the loved one that pisses you off.
00:12:32
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah or it's the homeless guy that you've picked up three times yeah he deserves it
00:12:32
tothezune
Or the nurse at the nursing home. And you can't stab them. Yeah.
00:12:39
tothezune
Yeah.
00:12:42
tothezune
Yeah, we were we were... I was out with my brother yesterday because we went to play disc golf in the lovely Baltimore County, which is a county that needs to fucking get real roads.
00:12:49
Chris
hmm
00:12:55
tothezune
I don't understand why your state of Maryland thinks that there's only two axes across your state. There's the 95 corridor and then there's 70 or 50.
00:13:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:07
tothezune
Nothing across the northern part of your state. Like...
00:13:10
Chris
Yeah. Why would they need something up there?
00:13:12
tothezune
There's how many people live in Baltimore County? It's insane. Hartford County and Baltimore County, you cannot get west. So I have to drive all the way to Baltimore and then back up to Baltimore County.
00:13:26
tothezune
It's insane.
00:13:27
Chris
You could take a bunch of back roads.
00:13:30
tothezune
Right. Exactly. I could take Billy Bob's back road that was built.
00:13:35
Chris
Single lane bridge.
00:13:36
tothezune
It was a single lane. Yeah, it was built for when there were 50 people living out there, but now there's a million people in that county and you're driving on roads that were built for 30 people.
00:13:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:47
tothezune
It's insane.
00:13:48
Chris
But think of the scenery you see. Yeah.
00:13:51
tothezune
Yeah. Strip mall, strip mall, strip mall, strip mall, strip mall.
00:13:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:56
tothezune
Yeah. But anyways, I'm out with my brother, and he was talking about... What the... I ah totally lost my plot of where I was going.
00:14:07
Chris
Disk golf.
00:14:08
tothezune
Oh, he was... No, he was talking about um people pissing off paramedics and firefighters
Technological Advances in Health Monitoring
00:14:13
tothezune
and stuff.
00:14:13
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:14:14
tothezune
And I was like, oh, it happens all the time. And he's like... His kiss girlfriend... live-in partner, whatever she is at this like part of her life, was like, well, it's real bad if, you know, the cops recognize people by name.
00:14:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:27
tothezune
I'm like, no, no. It's real bad when the paramedics know you by name.
00:14:31
Chris
Yes.
00:14:31
tothezune
That means we know everything about you and we've seen you ah way too much.
00:14:37
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:39
tothezune
And very few of you are legitimately sick.
00:14:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:45
tothezune
There are a few.
00:14:46
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:14:47
tothezune
You know, I always think of the one that Jill hated who was legitimately sick. know Yeah.
00:14:52
Chris
Yes. Yes.
00:14:54
tothezune
Rest in peace.
00:14:56
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Or I mean, you know, some of the diabetics that, you know, back before, I mean, that was really before like glucose monitoring was where it is today.
00:15:01
tothezune
Yeah.
00:15:07
tothezune
Yeah, it's really like you lost the the wild, wild west of the diabetics. You lost all the fun.
00:15:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:15:15
Chris
So side tangent to the diabetics, I saw, said, a university in Germany has developed a tattoo ink that responds to your body.
00:15:27
Chris
So if it's a diabetic, it can actually show their glucose level. The color will change.
00:15:33
tothezune
Whoa.
00:15:34
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:35
Chris
It will change for that.
00:15:35
tothezune
That's pretty cool.
00:15:36
tothezune
Now,
00:15:36
Chris
And there's another one for pH.
00:15:40
tothezune
pH is important.
00:15:42
Chris
Yeah, I was like, that's amazing.
00:15:42
tothezune
thats
00:15:43
Chris
That's like one step closer to chipping us.
00:15:44
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
00:15:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:15:53
tothezune
Man, I can't even think of a science of that.
00:15:53
Chris
Well, and that would also, that would prevent the cops from calling us because they could look and say, ah no, this isn't a diabetic.
00:15:59
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:01
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:01
tothezune
Right. Oh, look.
00:16:03
Chris
Your arm is green.
00:16:03
tothezune
Yep.
Importance of Medical Information
00:16:04
Chris
You're fine.
00:16:04
tothezune
You're green. Into the back of the squad car you go.
00:16:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:08
tothezune
Or the more importantly, oh, you're not green. Definitely get you an ambulance.
00:16:12
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:16:17
tothezune
That's the one that always bothers me.
00:16:22
Chris
yes yeah but yeah i can't either and wonder if it has to be like touched up every now and again i'm sure but
00:16:27
tothezune
That's a crazy... i can't even think of the science behind that.
00:16:33
tothezune
But that's...
00:16:37
tothezune
you think it's one of those things, though, that they're going to put out and they're going to tell people, oh, the fire department knows to look for it, and then we're going to have no idea.
00:16:44
Chris
Right, yeah. Yeah.
00:16:46
tothezune
It's like the it's like the the the fight I had with the phone lady when she's like, oh, the fire department goes through your phone and they they they know to push this button and it brings up your contacts. I said, ma'am, I've been a firefighter my entire life and they've never heard of that before.
00:16:57
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:58
tothezune
She's like, no, no, every firefighter knows. I said, well, I don't.
00:17:02
Chris
yeah Yeah, it's it's taught in the recruit class, yeah. It's day three, how to access somebody's phone.
00:17:08
tothezune
Ma'am, I accidentally take a screenshot 30 times a day on my own phone.
00:17:10
Chris
And how many different, yeah, was about say, how many, How many different phones are? Yeah. i yeah ah yeah Working my own phone is tricky enough sometimes, let alone somebody else's.
00:17:22
tothezune
Yeah, this is not going to happen.
00:17:24
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:26
tothezune
We're lucky. You're lucky if we you know find your phone and take it with us.
00:17:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:32
tothezune
Yeah, mike my mother was
00:17:32
Chris
Yeah. Or that tattoo would be somewhere like odd.
00:17:37
tothezune
Right.
00:17:37
Chris
Oh, you mean you didn't look under their left butt cheek?
00:17:37
tothezune
yeah Right.
00:17:40
Chris
Nope. No, I didn't.
00:17:42
tothezune
Yeah, i i I'll glance at the wrists to see if they've got a bracelet on, but I rarely ever see people wearing the b bracelets anymore.
00:17:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:51
tothezune
Those have really fallen out of fashion.
00:17:53
Chris
Yep.
00:17:54
tothezune
And now I know to look at the upper arm to see if they've got the glucose patch, or the myring patch.
00:17:58
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:59
tothezune
and But i that's about as far as I go.
00:18:03
Chris
Right.
00:18:05
tothezune
Yeah, my my mother and I had a whole conversation the last time she was here.
00:18:05
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:18:09
tothezune
She's like, you don't go bike riding without your ID, do you? and um Because we went we went somewhere and she's like, you don't have your wallet on you? but like, no, don't have my wallet on me. I'm not buying anything.
00:18:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:19
tothezune
She's well, what about your ID? It's in my wallet. Well, what if something happens? said, well, then I guess I'll be unidentifiable. I don't know.
00:18:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:32
tothezune
Who cares?
00:18:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:36
tothezune
She's like, well, you don't go into bike riding without your ID. like, yeah. like what if you get hit by a car? Well, then I'll be dead.
00:18:43
Chris
yeah
00:18:43
tothezune
But then they won't identify your body. I won't care because I'll be dead.
00:18:51
Chris
yeah she's not a realist she doesn't understand it no no we are perfectly fine transporting john doe to the hospital
00:18:55
tothezune
She's like, the fire department it has to find your stuff. I'm like, they don't.
00:19:01
tothezune
but They don't care.
00:19:04
tothezune
of Do you know how many John Doe's I've done reports on?
00:19:09
Chris
yeah or no it's not john doe it's trauma omega 423 yeah
00:19:10
tothezune
And I've still...
00:19:15
tothezune
Sure, now it is.
00:19:17
Chris
yeah
00:19:17
tothezune
But it used to be just John Doe. And I was still will fight to the death because i don't remember what, it might have been two EMS officers ago who said, you have to change your report because now we know that person's name.
00:19:19
Chris
Yep.
00:19:29
tothezune
I'm like, nope.
00:19:30
Chris
No, you add in a...
00:19:31
tothezune
At the time of the At the time of that, I didn't know anything.
00:19:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:34
tothezune
If you want to add his face sheet that you got later as an addendum, totally cool. But I'm not changing the report.
00:19:38
Chris
Yeah, that's all you can do. You can't... No, you can't change a medical report.
00:19:43
tothezune
Yeah.
00:19:45
tothezune
And you shouldn't because it goes to show, hey, we didn't know anything about this person.
00:19:46
Chris
No.
00:19:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:51
tothezune
If you go, I didn't know anything about this person, but his name was blah, blah, blah, and he lived here, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that shows something.
00:19:55
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
00:19:59
tothezune
Yeah.
00:20:00
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:01
tothezune
I found this dude unconscious on the side of the street. Didn't know shit. Didn't have a wallet.
00:20:06
Chris
Did my best to treat the unknown male.
00:20:09
tothezune
Right. Yeah.
00:20:13
Chris
What the f-
Emergency Services Billing Simplification
00:20:15
tothezune
It's the way of the world.
00:20:16
Chris
well
00:20:19
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:20:20
tothezune
Well, we have to build them. Yeah, I can get anything out of this person anyways. That I promised.
00:20:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:24
tothezune
Okay.
00:20:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:28
Chris
That's a whole other thing how screwed up the billing is. Mm-hmm.
00:20:31
tothezune
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, if you need an ambulance, people, um just pay us ahead of time.
00:20:44
tothezune
but Let's just negotiate us a lower rate, but you just pay us. That'd be nice for everybody.
00:20:48
Chris
ah yeah yeah yeah
00:20:50
tothezune
And it's about to get really bad.
00:20:55
tothezune
Yeah. Oh, I got game news.
00:20:58
Chris
oh yeah and okay yeah yeah i've heard yeah i've heard a lot of stuff about that okay
00:20:59
tothezune
I've been playing Avowed on Xbox.
00:21:07
tothezune
It's Obsidian, made the game. And it hits literally every trope of a fantasy RPG that you want.
00:21:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:20
tothezune
I really wasn't into it for a while. It took me ah good bit to like go, oh. But then like as I'm looting this person's house and they're like, hey, stop taking my stuff. I was like, oh yeah, this is just a old school fantasy RPG.
00:21:33
Chris
OK.
00:21:34
tothezune
Like every trope, like I'm going to go to this dungeon and do all these things. You know, it's <unk>s got companions that are useful.
00:21:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:41
tothezune
There's a healer that actually heals you.
00:21:43
Chris
Wait, what?
00:21:44
tothezune
you know that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:44
Chris
A healer? Wow.
00:21:49
tothezune
So it's, I'm going to give it one and a half thumbs out of two thumbs.
00:21:55
Chris
OK. OK.
00:21:57
tothezune
It's totally worth playing. I haven't finished it yet.
00:22:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:00
tothezune
But the story's cool.
00:22:04
Chris
Is it a first person?
00:22:06
tothezune
Yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah. First-person RPG. um Character classes are pretty simple. It feels like you can multi-class whatever you want, though.
00:22:16
tothezune
So that's cool.
00:22:16
Chris
Oh, OK.
00:22:18
tothezune
Yeah. um yeah It doesn't do a great job of explaining a lot of stuff, which is kind of fun.
00:22:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:26
tothezune
I just have to figure it out, read descriptions.
00:22:29
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:22:30
tothezune
Yeah.
00:22:31
Chris
Every now and again, you want a game that's not holding your hand. Yeah.
00:22:35
tothezune
Yeah. I will tell you, for... It has markers, right? Like, it tells you where quests are.
00:22:43
Chris
Okay.
00:22:43
tothezune
But boy, it doesn't tell you how to get to those quests sometimes. There's this one that was, like, in the middle of a mountain range.
00:22:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:49
tothezune
It took me, like, three laps to figure out how to get through.
00:22:50
Chris
Hmm.
00:22:51
tothezune
And you just have to, like...
00:22:52
Chris
Hmm.
00:22:54
tothezune
You just have to find the place you can mount up the cliffs. There's a lot of like, you just have to figure out how to get around it, which is cool. So yeah, it's a pretty good game.
00:23:04
Chris
You can't do the Skyrim, like, billy goat your way up the mountain.
00:23:09
tothezune
I've tried. I've tried. There is no mount, which is a little annoying. It's little slow running around the map.
Recent Video Game Experiences
00:23:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:18
tothezune
But, or there could be a mount. I haven't gotten that far.
00:23:22
Chris
Hmm.
00:23:22
tothezune
doesn't seem to be one.
00:23:22
Chris
Hmm.
00:23:25
tothezune
I'm on the third act, so I'm assuming by then I would...
00:23:27
Chris
Yeah, you would think.
00:23:29
tothezune
you would think.
00:23:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:30
tothezune
But, yeah. Pretty fun.
00:23:33
Chris
yeah
00:23:34
tothezune
That's my... Oh, and I've been playing Repo. I'm sure that's been on everybody's... on the internet.
00:23:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:40
tothezune
It's fun game.
00:23:41
Chris
Are you like a tow truck driver?
00:23:44
tothezune
Oh, you haven't you haven't seen clips of this.
00:23:46
Chris
No.
00:23:47
tothezune
It's like... ah Lethal Company. Did you ever watch or play Lethal Company?
00:23:53
Chris
no
00:23:55
tothezune
Oh, so it's a...
00:23:57
Chris
repo oh online co-op horror game oh that's definitely not me
00:24:01
tothezune
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You... It's not as scary as... It's definitely not you. You wouldn't play it. But it's fun. You definitely want a group of like four people playing, though.
00:24:15
Chris
yeah i was like i saw bungie's big announcement for marathon or the new marathon was like yeah i mean it looks
00:24:16
tothezune
Oh.
00:24:26
Chris
Like Bungie and all, but it sounds like you gotta have three people to play or else it's gonna be weird.
00:24:31
tothezune
Yeah.
00:24:32
Chris
So, don't know.
00:24:33
tothezune
Yeah, that's tough.
00:24:35
Chris
Yeah. don't know.
00:24:37
tothezune
Yeah. It's tough to play. Well, that's the problem with my brother We played with my brother and his friend, and then my buddies joined in. So we had four people.
00:24:47
tothezune
was great. And I was like, yesterday, we were like trying to get four people on the same time.
00:24:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:51
tothezune
was impossible.
00:24:52
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah. I mean, it's the you know dnd failure you know trying to find time where you know group of people can get together and play is tricky yeah oh yeah
00:24:59
tothezune
Yeah.
00:25:05
tothezune
And it's even dumber because we're all in our own houses. like and We still can't you know you still can't get it done.
Bikepacking Preparations
00:25:15
tothezune
That's my video game news for 2024, 2025, whatever this is.
00:25:21
Chris
so we're in 25
00:25:23
tothezune
It takes me a good six months before I figure out what year we're in on a consistent basis.
00:25:30
Chris
ah Time is just a manufactured thing.
00:25:32
tothezune
Yeah.
00:25:35
tothezune
Time is just a constraint construct of your own brain.
00:25:37
Chris
Yeah. oh
00:25:40
tothezune
Just think about it. It's either
00:25:41
Chris
No, i I don't need to think about it again. who don't need to break me. hu
00:25:47
tothezune
simultaneously 8 o'clock in the morning and 9 o'clock in the morning.
00:25:50
Chris
hu
00:25:51
tothezune
No, wait. 11 o'clock in the morning and 8 o'clock in the morning.
00:25:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:54
tothezune
ah
00:25:56
Chris
Huh.
00:25:59
Chris
The sun is up. That's all I need to know.
00:26:01
tothezune
That's fair. And it's going be up for quite a few more hours.
00:26:02
Chris
Yeah. Yes.
00:26:06
tothezune
Well, on to topic one.
00:26:08
Chris
Sure. Topic one.
00:26:11
tothezune
So i got a new hobby.
00:26:13
Chris
Okay.
00:26:15
tothezune
So, well, it's kind of an old hobby, but I've, one of my plans after retirement is I want to I know if it's ever going to happen, but I profess to want to ride my bike ride across country.
00:26:29
Chris
OK.
00:26:30
tothezune
So my list of things to do.
00:26:32
Chris
all right.
00:26:33
tothezune
And so this July, we're starting the baby steps. We're riding from Pittsburgh to Shepherdstown, Maryland. Pittsburgh, PA, Shepherdstown, Maryland.
00:26:44
Chris
OK.
00:26:45
tothezune
And camping. So we're going on bike camping.
00:26:48
Chris
OK.
00:26:50
tothezune
Yeah. Let me tell you. I'm in the weeds.
00:26:55
Chris
Really?
00:26:56
tothezune
Yes. So luckily I had a bike that already could convert to a bikepacking bike, a touring bike. So I, cause you know, I have way too many bicycles at this point in my life.
00:27:07
Chris
Hmm.
00:27:08
tothezune
ah And I,
00:27:10
Chris
Wait, are you saying like you can, it has a pannier so you can put the saddlebags and all that on? on
00:27:15
tothezune
yep. So I put my rack on it yesterday. So I have two panniers on the back. I have a third,
00:27:19
Chris
Okay.
00:27:21
tothezune
top bag and I got I bought a tent that is specifically designed to sit between the handlebars of a bike yeah it's pretty cool but I am like hardcore in the weeds of like what do I need out of this because you know you only have two panniers and a top bag and weight you wouldn't think putting a tent on the front of a
00:27:29
Chris
Oh, wow.
00:27:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:48
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:27:51
tothezune
ah handlebars would really affect the weight of your bike boy oh boy it does yeah i did go
00:27:54
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah, i mean, that definitely changes your whole center of gravity on the bike.
00:28:02
tothezune
yeah so that's what i'm trying to get it loaded now so that i can start doing some rides with it so i can like adjust weight and figure out where i need to move stuff
00:28:04
Chris
Hmm.
00:28:10
Chris
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:28:14
Chris
Well, just zip tie 20-pound dumbbells around the bike until you figure out where you... Yeah.
00:28:23
tothezune
I don't want to do that.
00:28:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:25
tothezune
don't want to do that.
00:28:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:27
tothezune
I don't think I'm going to have that much more weight.
00:28:30
Chris
yeah
00:28:31
tothezune
I hope. The tent's probably the heaviest thing. I went for a bigger tent because, you know, I'm going to, like, enjoy myself.
00:28:34
Chris
yeah
00:28:38
Chris
yeah
00:28:38
tothezune
Because there's some bikepacking. I was, like, this was a three...
00:28:41
Chris
No, it's like a... cook There's probably one some that are like just a cocoon, pretty much.
00:28:45
tothezune
Yeah, there's like these little ones that basically are just a fly and ohlthough with a tarp you sit on. I was like, nah, I'm not doing that. I don't want the bugs in my face while I'm sleeping. So this one I got has a little awning for your bike to sit under and still packs up in the spot.
00:28:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:59
Chris
Oh, wow.
00:29:02
Chris
La-di-da.
00:29:03
tothezune
Yeah.
00:29:04
Chris
Yeah, and then once you get it out once, getting it back in that package is going to be fun.
00:29:09
tothezune
That's what I'm worried about.
00:29:10
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:11
tothezune
Yeah.
00:29:12
Chris
Would it be better to put it instead of the handlebars, like somehow like over the front wheel, like as a fender or something, maybe keep that weight further down instead of up on the handlebars or on, I know you can't put it on the frame because ah you've got water bottles there.
00:29:12
tothezune
Luckily, this one...
00:29:25
tothezune
Some people do that.
00:29:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:31
tothezune
Yeah, you can.
00:29:33
tothezune
My bike doesn't have it. you There's front forks that you can put things on, but I'm a little more worried about that.
00:29:35
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:39
Chris
yeah yeah
00:29:41
tothezune
I think the handlebars will be a little better.
00:29:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:46
tothezune
Now I've got water bottles and that because we're going to be. where we're going in July, we one of the days we won't have potable water, so we have to carry every all our water with us.
00:29:54
Chris
Okay. Yeah.
00:29:56
tothezune
So I have to figure that out. too
00:29:59
Chris
Just bring iodine tablets and...
00:30:01
tothezune
Well, I'm bringing camp stove so I can boil water.
00:30:04
Chris
And all you need is a pot and a lid.
00:30:08
tothezune
It's the most important thing you can take.
00:30:10
Chris
ha ha ha
00:30:12
tothezune
I still stand by that.
00:30:13
Chris
god Yeah, folks, go back to episode like seven to hear about that.
00:30:17
tothezune
Yeah, say like episode three.
00:30:20
Chris
yeah
00:30:21
tothezune
Yeah, but no, I get a little camp stove. I'm figuring all this stuff out. I'm so like, it's like because I'm going to Alaska next month and I told my wife I'm more excited to go backpacking or bikepacking than I am to go to Alaska.
00:30:35
Chris
Wow.
00:30:36
tothezune
Says something. And I know it's going to be hot as balls.
00:30:41
Chris
Yeah, that, that, yeah. Yeah.
00:30:45
tothezune
What brings the the question up is What is the...
00:30:48
Chris
Now wait, who's going back camping? Is it you and your brother?
00:30:51
tothezune
It's my brother's birthday, so it's going to be him and a bunch of his friends, and who most of I know most of his friends, and then me.
00:30:58
Chris
All right.
00:31:00
tothezune
It'll be like a party of like... Some days will be four of us, and then other days will be eight.
00:31:06
Chris
OK.
00:31:06
tothezune
so
00:31:08
tothezune
I think only four of us are doing the whole trip.
00:31:11
Chris
Gotcha.
00:31:12
tothezune
yeah
00:31:12
Chris
OK.
00:31:12
tothezune
where we stop and we start in Pittsburgh. I guess there's a this route has like a, this is where you start. And then, you know,
00:31:22
Chris
Oh, OK, so you're not actually like having to design the whole route.
00:31:26
tothezune
no, not not for this one.
00:31:27
Chris
It's kind of pre...
00:31:28
tothezune
It's we're taking the, what the hell is the name of the path? There's a path.
00:31:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:34
tothezune
There's a, there's a bike route between Pittsburgh and Trevor sound we're taking.
00:31:37
Chris
OK.
00:31:38
tothezune
So the the moral question I have is I can take the train out, right?
00:31:48
tothezune
So the day before we leave, I can take the train and can get to our starting point because we're taking a shuttle from there to the starting point.
00:31:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:57
tothezune
But then when I'm coming home, i have to get on a train for like three hours without having showered and have been to lie
00:32:11
Chris
um pack a can of febreze
00:32:14
tothezune
so That's what I was like, what do I do in that situation? it's going to be, i would be coming home on the commuter train.
00:32:24
Chris
yeah yeah i'm sure you could at least take like uh
00:32:25
tothezune
So it's going to be like, there's going to be people on that train. It's going to be an empty train ride.
00:32:33
tothezune
Yeah.
00:32:37
Chris
sink shower yeah
00:32:41
tothezune
me that's my brother's like yeah you know we'll just we'll find a place and shower and then get in the train i'm like oh hopefully i that is gonna be some i would not want to i would be so mad if i got on a train it's some asshole got on there who had not showered in four days sweating in 100 degree weather
00:33:02
Chris
yeah but I mean homeless people ride the train all the time
00:33:07
tothezune
that's That's true. That is very true.
00:33:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:12
tothezune
Yeah, because it's a...
00:33:13
Chris
God, how would that be? Like you're sitting there and sudden this homeless guy says, next, how long you been out? Oh
00:33:20
tothezune
Or with the homeless guy's like, holy crap, I can't be next
00:33:24
Chris
my God. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there'll be one of those homeless showers set up.
00:33:32
tothezune
I can't... I can only carry like Maybe two changes of clothes. Right?
00:33:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:37
tothezune
like It's not even going to be like clean clothes.
00:33:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:40
tothezune
him It's be rough.
00:33:42
Chris
yeah Yeah. But I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:33:43
tothezune
But I don't want to drive. it seems like to defeat the purpose of drive.
00:33:47
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. You get your wife to drop you off and pick you up.
00:33:52
tothezune
Well, that feels like it's just the same thing, but cheating.
00:33:55
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:58
tothezune
I'm trying to be a ah better steward.
00:33:59
Chris
Oh, you should ride your bike from Wilmington to Pittsburgh.
00:34:03
tothezune
Mmm.
Homelessness Encounters at Work
00:34:09
tothezune
There's a couple bridges in there that are a little scary.
00:34:11
Chris
ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:13
tothezune
Like, i don't even know how I would get across the Susquehanna River.
00:34:14
Chris
Hmm.
00:34:20
Chris
Hmm.
00:34:22
tothezune
I guess there's a bike path.
00:34:22
Chris
I'm going to get a real head of steam. Yeah.
00:34:26
tothezune
There's gotta be ah some bridge that you can ride that has a bike path, but boy, I don't know.
00:34:29
Chris
yeah
00:34:33
tothezune
The Susquehanna is a scary river. It's really wide.
00:34:38
tothezune
Yeah, this is my new obsession. I've been like hardcore into this for couple weeks now. just This thing weighs 38 grams, but this one weighs 56 grams and I get more efficiency out of it. So how many grams can I deal with here?
00:34:55
Chris
Yeah, I mean, if you're getting down to grams, that's...
00:34:56
tothezune
That's fine. Oh, you have to.
00:35:01
Chris
Oh my gosh.
00:35:04
tothezune
The only thing, my big they make purchase next is my sleeping pad. And that is where my next big wait. Because you figure water is your biggest wait.
00:35:13
Chris
oh
00:35:15
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:35:16
tothezune
Besides my fat ass. Then it's water. And then it's the tent.
00:35:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:22
tothezune
And then food is pretty... I'll probably take freeze-dried food and turkey and stuff.
00:35:25
Chris
Hmm. Yeah.
00:35:27
tothezune
You know.
00:35:28
Chris
I just fashion a snare and catch a rabbit.
00:35:28
tothezune
Eat like... Yeah.
00:35:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:35
tothezune
Eat like crap for four days. Because...
00:35:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:37
tothezune
I said my brother well, you know, we're going to take beers and, you know, you can drink. And I'm like, that seems like a bad idea.
00:35:45
Chris
What? That's wasted weight.
00:35:47
tothezune
Yeah. That's stuff I not want to carry.
00:35:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:50
tothezune
I am in charge of the first aid for the crew and I've already, I've already bothered them.
00:35:51
Chris
Hmm.
00:35:53
Chris
Okay. Okay.
00:35:58
tothezune
Cause I sent them a form. I said, i need you to fill this form out.
00:36:00
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:36:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:02
tothezune
It's got your contact information.
00:36:03
tothezune
Do you use an EpiPen? you going to carry the EpiPen? You know,
00:36:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:07
tothezune
So stuff like very, very generic medical information.
00:36:08
Chris
Yeah. Blood. what Yeah. Blood type.
00:36:13
tothezune
Yeah. Blood type, stuff like that, because we're older men, things can happen.
00:36:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:18
Chris
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:36:22
tothezune
Plus I always tell when I teach first aid of the Girl Scouts, I always say, you guys should be making these cards up for your kids.
00:36:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:28
tothezune
You should have this information with you when you go out, laminate it, give it to the paramedic.
00:36:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:35
Chris
No, no, no. We proved this earlier. It's on your phone.
00:36:38
tothezune
Oh, right, right, right.
00:36:39
Chris
Yeah. And every firefighter knows how to access that.
00:36:41
tothezune
You're right.
00:36:42
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:45
tothezune
Yeah. Don't do that. Just laminate it.
00:36:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:49
tothezune
Give it to your, you know. So I've got a build out my first date Because my first date gets really only meant for a single person.
00:36:55
Chris
Right.
00:36:56
tothezune
You know, so now I have to, like, not that there's going to be much more, but got to make it out for ah bigger group.
00:37:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:04
Chris
But then that adds more weight.
00:37:06
tothezune
It's going to add more weight.
00:37:07
Chris
Hmm.
00:37:08
tothezune
Mostly I'm going to add like moleskin for blisters and yeah.
00:37:10
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's going to be a big part.
00:37:14
tothezune
Yeah.
00:37:15
Chris
Sunscreen.
00:37:16
tothezune
Sunscreens definitely.
00:37:18
Chris
Well, everybody should be bringing their own.
00:37:21
tothezune
Yeah. I'm going to probably wear long sleeve sun shirt most of the time.
00:37:24
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:37:27
tothezune
Even though it's going to be house balls.
00:37:28
Chris
Yeah. have you thought about like a little trailer yeah like well i'm telling even when those that you like you know throw your kids in
00:37:32
tothezune
Oh no. I looked at one. I did. But I was like, that's just too much wood.
00:37:40
tothezune
Yeah, no, they have bike, but that then it becomes like transporting a trailer and the bike is too much.
00:37:47
Chris
oh yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah yeah yeah
00:37:49
tothezune
You want it to be one little compact bike done.
00:37:53
Chris
yeah
00:37:55
tothezune
Yeah, I mounted my rack and my but my bags yesterday and looking at it and this is my new thing.
00:38:01
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:03
tothezune
Yeah, my brother's like, well, we're going take one a year. I'm like, one a year? I'm going to go to work with this thing.
00:38:08
Chris
Well, you could camp right behind Station
00:38:13
tothezune
I was thinking about going this week because I got to work 24 on, 24 off, 24 on.
00:38:13
Chris
One.
00:38:17
tothezune
was like, I'll just camp in between. But then i was like, I have to get up super early. Break the tent down.
00:38:22
Chris
yeah yeah
00:38:24
tothezune
not going work.
00:38:25
Chris
but you could camp right behind station one
00:38:28
tothezune
I could do that. I'm sure Seed Shift would not fuck with me at all.
00:38:33
Chris
No. Yeah.
00:38:36
tothezune
I'm sure I would get an uninterrupted night of sleep with those maniacs around
00:38:39
Chris
Yeah. yeah if There would not be yeah yeah and ambulance pulled right up to the tent. Yeah.
00:38:45
tothezune
Yeah.
00:38:50
Chris
yeah Yeah, that's true.
00:38:50
tothezune
No, because they'd just be like, oh, there's another homeless guy out there.
00:38:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:54
tothezune
They'd chase me away.
00:38:59
Chris
ah Yeah, because that's technically in the county. So if the sheriff's deputies i actually do something to you as opposed to you know other police municipal agencies.
Emergency Response Protocols
00:39:09
tothezune
Yeah.
00:39:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:09
tothezune
Yeah.
00:39:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:11
tothezune
Oh, did I tell you about the homeless lady that yelled at me?
00:39:14
Chris
What?
00:39:15
tothezune
like a month ago at work ah so we went to um
00:39:15
Chris
OK, yeah.
00:39:23
tothezune
behind this tower road but it was behind the popeyes and this it comes in as a non-breathing we're like oh fuck
00:39:28
Chris
okay yeah yeah
00:39:33
Chris
Oh, gosh.
00:39:35
tothezune
So we get there and the lady's up talking. And i was like, look, I only got to say, hey, you can't sleep there. She was sleeping basically next to the railroad tracks.
00:39:46
Chris
Yeah, that's not safe.
00:39:46
tothezune
And she just goes off on me. And all I wanted to say is, hey, you can't sleep there because people going to think you're dead.
00:39:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:52
tothezune
You know, ah you need to go somewhere else.
00:39:52
Chris
Hmm.
00:39:55
tothezune
And she's like, you can't tell me this is blah, blah. I'm like, and she's like, and the best part is like, there's no sign that says no trespassing. I turn around and there's a big sign that says no trespassing property. And I was like, what?
00:40:09
tothezune
But then the cop just was like, yeah, go ahead, go back to sleep there. And I'm like like, this is the problem.
00:40:12
Chris
uh yeah right yeah hey he couldn't clap
00:40:14
tothezune
You have to tell them to move. this This is not safe. We've already had one guy fall asleep on the tracks. Remember what happened to him?
00:40:29
Chris
god hmm oh yeah
00:40:29
tothezune
Yeah. But she, I mean, I literally was like, you can't sleep here. And she was like, bam. i'm I'm sure she gets harassed all the time about stuff. But, ma'am.
00:40:41
tothezune
They're calling because you think you're dead. I can't have that all day.
00:40:43
Chris
yeah right yeah yeah just yeah sleep somewhere else and you know have like a green flag you hold up or something
00:40:53
tothezune
We already have homeless camps. Go sleep in one of those. yeah just
00:40:58
Chris
or maybe she was kicked out of one of those yeah
00:41:00
tothezune
that's With her attitude, I'm sure she was. I'm sure she's very... But she was, I mean, immediately on my ass. I'm like, all right, I'm out.
00:41:12
tothezune
I'm sure I'll be back to get you when you get hit by the train.
00:41:16
Chris
Yeah. That's like, yeah, do the tent communities, they have HLA homeless associations or something.
00:41:23
tothezune
Well, they must. They must have a council because they've kicked one of our homeless people out many times.
00:41:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:29
tothezune
So that person gets kicked out of every camp that they build out.
00:41:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:34
tothezune
so
00:41:35
Chris
yeah I still remember the one camp that, that one tent had French doors. That was impressive.
00:41:43
tothezune
They're impressive what they get done in their little camps.
00:41:46
Chris
yeah Yeah.
00:41:48
tothezune
i don't I don't mind the camps. I don't like the fact that they booby trap them and then call 911.
00:41:54
Chris
That's, yeah, I don't like that part.
00:41:56
tothezune
Not a big fan of that.
00:41:57
Chris
No.
00:42:00
tothezune
But yes, just don't sleep where people can see you and then they'll call us.
00:42:00
Chris
No, not at all.
00:42:04
Chris
Right.
00:42:07
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah. And maybe, maybe we should have a rule. We don't send four pieces of apparatus to ah report on non-breathing on that route.
00:42:19
tothezune
You know,
00:42:21
Chris
Yeah, but the time we don't will be the time we need it.
00:42:22
tothezune
I know, I know. It's the same conversation about these, like They had a chicken coop fire the other day and sent seven stations responding to the fire.
00:42:32
Chris
Well, yeah, that's... And you would think they would have like some kind of you know what's the square footage kind of thing.
00:42:41
tothezune
Right. Or, hey, is it an outbuilding? Okay, we're going to send two companies.
00:42:46
Chris
Right.
00:42:46
tothezune
And if they get there and they say we got to upgrade it that's fine.
00:42:49
Chris
Right. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:52
tothezune
Yeah. it's it's It's a little out of control.
00:42:56
Chris
I mean, I remember years ago, they were we were dispatched for a house fire, and yeah like you said, everybody and their brother is driving full head of steam.
00:43:09
Chris
The dispatcher misheard the person that was a doghouse on fire.
00:43:14
tothezune
Yeah.
00:43:15
Chris
So, yeah. But, yeah.
00:43:18
tothezune
That's, you misheard something, that's whatever.
00:43:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:21
tothezune
Right. What this one was, came in as chicken coop on fire.
00:43:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:28
tothezune
That doesn't require a seven company response.
00:43:30
Chris
Right. Well, I mean, that was my thing the other day with sending all those pieces of apparatus to Worcester County when the first unit got there and they were like, yeah, it's well involved partially on the ground.
00:43:32
tothezune
It is seven.
00:43:38
tothezune
Oh, I didn't.
00:43:43
Chris
It's like, and why are we sending anything else?
00:43:45
tothezune
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:47
Chris
To me, don't know, maybe I have I've gotten a different mindset with my age, but to me, that would be talk to the homeowner. Look, there's nothing we can save this. Do you want to just let go?
00:43:59
tothezune
Right.
00:44:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:00
tothezune
Yeah. How many, how many times have they rebuilt a house that was partially on the ground? 0.0.
00:44:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:08
tothezune
zero point zero
00:44:08
Chris
Well, it was like the conversation the other day. When's the last time a car that was on fire was put back on the road?
Lithium-ion Battery Concerns
00:44:16
tothezune
Yeah, it doesn't happen.
00:44:17
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Which, side tangent, after that talk the other day, I'm terrified to have anything plugged in.
00:44:26
tothezune
You shouldn't be.
00:44:26
Chris
God.
00:44:27
tothezune
That was...
00:44:28
Chris
I know, but still.
00:44:30
tothezune
I was... i i just clammed up during that class.
00:44:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:34
tothezune
i didn't I didn't say a thing. Because people were like, Wismer, you didn't say anything. I'm like, yeahp I just clammed up.
00:44:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:39
tothezune
Because it was fear-mongering and it was...
00:44:40
Chris
Yeah. Yes.
00:44:43
tothezune
it was is Are there things we should be concerned about?
00:44:47
Chris
Yes.
00:44:48
tothezune
Yes. Are there things that we should be like, oh my god, this is going to happen and the world's going to burn down? No. Are these things not safe? they're For God's sakes, people, we've had laptops for 20 years. Your laptops aren't blowing up every five minutes.
00:45:01
Chris
Well, the thing is, is like he he was talking, though, as long as you get UL listed. But I do see the problem that people, you know, oh, I can get a replacement battery on Timu and plug it in.
00:45:11
tothezune
Yes.
00:45:12
Chris
That's that's where the problems start.
00:45:14
tothezune
Which was the exact conversation I had when the fire chief put us on that committee. And I said, the only thing we can really do is say, don't use aftermarket products.
00:45:23
Chris
Right.
00:45:24
tothezune
That's the, I mean, cause they were, they, we had conversations on this committee, like, well, we, we, we have to ban these things.
00:45:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:45:30
tothezune
I'm like, you can't ban lithium ion batteries.
00:45:30
Chris
what they're everywhere
00:45:33
tothezune
What are you talking about? and then the and then the conversation well they can't have them in multi-family homes i'm like well people have scooters that for mobility because they can't move you can't tell them they can't think there's motorized wheelchairs you can't tell them not to do it like that it's is it a concern sure but you should also you shouldn't you know plug generators into houses but so we don't say you can't have generators so i you know
00:45:44
Chris
yeah
00:45:47
Chris
right yeah yeah
00:45:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:01
tothezune
You just have to be, it was when his, I really, he really lost me when he went over.
00:46:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:06
tothezune
Well, if this bus rolls over on top of it's on top of itself, then we're going real problem.
00:46:08
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:46:10
tothezune
was like, well, if any bus rolls over on top going to have a real problem.
00:46:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:13
tothezune
What are you talking about?
00:46:13
Chris
yeah Yeah. yeah i i didn't
00:46:16
tothezune
i think, I think the least of our worries was the battery.
00:46:18
Chris
Yeah. I didn't know until the other day that like like e the EV cars and everything, I didn't realize it was just banks of those little batteries.
00:46:27
tothezune
Oh yeah, banks banks.
00:46:30
Chris
I thought it was like 10 big batteries underneath the car, not thousands of little ones.
00:46:34
tothezune
No, it's, yeah, it's thousands of little batteries.
00:46:38
Chris
Yeah, that's interesting.
00:46:39
tothezune
Yeah, but that's why that was the other conversation we had when I was on the committee. was like everything that I'm seeing is bullshit. Because like the one product that even he showed, I was like, this is just pierces the case. It doesn't get into the fire.
00:46:53
Chris
Right.
00:46:53
tothezune
None of this works.
00:46:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:55
tothezune
you know and and i think the fire chief got frustrated with the committee because we kept saying there's no real answer because at the end of the day there is no real answer you the the answer and this is what i told the fire marshal was just let it burn right he was like well we can't just but what our what's our answer if it's a lithium ion tool i said take the battery outside
00:47:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:05
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:11
Chris
Yeah. yeah protect exposures
00:47:20
Chris
yeah
00:47:20
tothezune
You can pick it up, put it outside, let it burn.
00:47:22
Chris
yeah
00:47:25
Chris
yeah
00:47:25
tothezune
Well, what do we dispose it? Well, once it's burned off, throw it in the trash.
00:47:31
Chris
yeah
00:47:31
tothezune
We don't need to, right.
00:47:32
Chris
It's inert at that point.
00:47:34
tothezune
We don't need to buy, like this, this is nothing new.
00:47:36
Chris
Yeah, because putting it out, that just causes it to possibly go run away again.
00:47:42
tothezune
Right. Yeah. Just let it burn up.
00:47:42
Chris
Yeah. If you let the product. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:46
tothezune
it's And the nice thing is it's going to burn off the toxic gases. It's it's just let it burn.
00:47:49
Chris
Yep. Yeah.
00:47:52
tothezune
And they
Fire Safety Protocols
00:47:53
tothezune
don't want that answer.
00:47:53
Chris
Yeah. I don't know why.
00:47:54
tothezune
But unfortunately, that's the answer.
00:47:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:56
tothezune
but it's it
00:47:58
tothezune
It's the same conversation about car fires. Like, why are we risking anything to put a car fire out?
00:48:02
Chris
yeah right yeah
00:48:05
tothezune
You know, just let them burn. You know, and then somebody said, what about the pavement underneath? I said, do you know hot pavement gets to put it down?
00:48:15
Chris
what yeah what about the what what what about the pavement
00:48:17
tothezune
Like, what are you talking about?
00:48:25
Chris
um
00:48:26
tothezune
And you also...
00:48:26
Chris
Yeah. The only time I see it as a concern, like if you've got a car fire in like a parking garage or in a ah parking row or something, like sure.
00:48:27
tothezune
but
00:48:31
tothezune
Sure.
00:48:35
Chris
But yeah, if it's an isolated car fire, because really once you're trying to put it out, all you're doing is spreading that crud everywhere through the water and the runoff. and
00:48:46
tothezune
let it burn.
00:48:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:48
tothezune
Every car fire, we could just let them burn.
00:48:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:51
tothezune
you know Unless somebody's in it, i obviously.
00:48:53
Chris
Yeah. yeah yeah yeah
00:48:54
tothezune
You know? But...
00:48:57
tothezune
they're not going to get fixed.
00:48:59
Chris
no
00:48:59
tothezune
you know
00:48:59
Chris
No.
00:49:01
tothezune
and And like, i didn't, again, I didn't say anything to i said my wife later because he was explaining those buses and he was like, this is crazy. And I said, does he not know how trains work?
00:49:12
tothezune
Because this is how trains have worked for, yeah, like since probably the 50s.
00:49:12
Chris
Right. Eons. Well, not eons, but yeah.
00:49:19
tothezune
You know, trains are electric vehicles with a diesel generator.
00:49:22
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:49:24
tothezune
That's all they are.
00:49:26
Chris
Submarines, boats.
00:49:27
tothezune
yeah yeah
00:49:29
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:49:31
tothezune
oh it's like the new hot topic to fear monger about it's like this is not worth this isn't worth our time to worry about we've had i know three incidents in the city that involved lithium ion batteries one of them caused legitimate damage to a house everybody got out safe
00:49:38
Chris
Right.
00:49:43
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:49:45
Chris
Yep.
00:49:49
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:49:51
tothezune
And that yes, what we can do is educate the public and say, hey, you need to put this, you need to charge these things with UL rated chargers. You need to charge them in locations that are awake.
00:49:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:01
tothezune
Like all of my lithium ion batteries are in ah my shop, which is a separated room that i keep the door closed.
00:50:06
Chris
the Yep.
00:50:09
tothezune
you know Just fire safe things that we can tell everybody.
00:50:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:13
tothezune
But we don't need to be like, you got to get them out of your house.
00:50:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:15
tothezune
They're going to kill everybody.
00:50:18
Chris
or hear me out. We start a company to build charging huts behind people's houses.
00:50:26
tothezune
Sure. that That would...
00:50:28
Chris
They're concrete. We run electric out to them. That way they're safe away from their property and they can charge their items in
00:50:37
tothezune
Yeah, when the guy was like, you know, and people are charging their their electric vehicles in their in their garages. I was like, well, what do you think happens if a gas-powered car gets caught fire in a garage, bud?
00:50:47
Chris
Right.
00:50:48
tothezune
it does It's the same effect.
00:50:48
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of this stuff was inra informative, but yeah, there was some fear mongering.
00:50:53
tothezune
Fire...
00:50:58
tothezune
yeah Yeah, it's just... i And I get it. This this is his this guy's thing. This is what he's...
00:51:03
Chris
And it's and it's new.
00:51:05
tothezune
It's new-ish. It's not really new.
00:51:07
Chris
Yeah, right. But im yeah, it's. Yeah.
00:51:11
tothezune
yeah it's... it's the but The whole class.
00:51:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:51:13
tothezune
and Everybody kept looking at me, and I'm just like...
00:51:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:51:16
tothezune
I got but nothing to say. And then Kramer at the end of it... No, I shouldn't say names. But the fire marshal at the end of it was like, we need to buy this, this, and this.
00:51:22
Chris
yeah
00:51:24
tothezune
And I'm like, we don't need to buy that stuff, guys. Well, what are we going to tell people? We tell people the same thing we tell them with hazardous materials. Here's how you ship it. Here's where you get the the product to ship it.
00:51:35
Chris
yep yeah yeah
00:51:35
tothezune
See you by. Or throw it in the fucking trash.
00:51:40
Chris
yeah
00:51:41
tothezune
Your Makita battery. I don't want to. i shouldn't probably say this. Your Makita battery goes bad. Take it to the hazardous waste dump and say, get rid of this.
00:51:48
Chris
no yeah
00:51:50
tothezune
That's their job.
00:51:51
Chris
Right.
00:51:53
tothezune
It's not the fire department's job.
00:51:53
Chris
Yeah. No.
00:51:56
tothezune
we We do not get into hazardous waste disposal for any reason.
00:52:00
Chris
No. Yeah. Yeah, I could. Yeah.
00:52:05
tothezune
I don't want to be involved in that.
00:52:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:06
tothezune
I guess I don't have anything.
00:52:07
Chris
Yeah. Having the education to give them and information. Yeah.
00:52:10
tothezune
Yeah.
00:52:11
Chris
Here. Here's your pamphlet. Follow these instructions.
00:52:13
tothezune
Yeah, here's your pamphlet. but Because he was like, well, if someone calls and then we have this battery and we have to do something with it. said, why do we have to do anything with it?
00:52:23
Chris
Right.
00:52:24
tothezune
If someone calls and said, hey, my lawnmower caught fire, do we say, well, here's how you dispose of the lawnmower?
00:52:29
Chris
Right.
00:52:30
tothezune
but we don't walk ah We don't take the lawnmower back to the station. but like We don't do that.
00:52:33
Chris
Oh, we we're not supposed to do that?
00:52:36
tothezune
i mean, I don't do it. they you know it's
00:52:38
Chris
OK. Yeah.
00:52:41
tothezune
But we're just getting involved in stuff. I was like, we don't need to be. this is we guys are You're sweating the wrong stuff here. You know, but like the MDE guys are nuts because they're taking these batteries back to their state.
00:52:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:52
tothezune
you got be did Did you really look at the picture?
00:52:55
Chris
Oh my gosh, when he, yeah, that one picture, i was like, what are you doing?
00:53:00
tothezune
Right. So you're taking apart this thing that you think is going to catch fire inside of an enclosed structure.
00:53:01
Chris
Hmm.
00:53:05
tothezune
Neither of you are wearing gear.
00:53:05
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:53:06
tothezune
Yeah,
00:53:07
Chris
No. ah He had his work gloves on.
00:53:09
tothezune
it's work gloves on.
00:53:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:12
tothezune
Yeah.
00:53:13
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:13
tothezune
and i that's why told my wife, I said, it's clear that MDE guys are not firefighters.
00:53:18
Chris
Right.
00:53:18
tothezune
Right. they This guy has no business being involved in firefighting.
00:53:19
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:26
tothezune
He was a fire investigator, and now he's a battery monkey for the state.
00:53:28
Chris
Yeah.
E-bike Considerations for Bikepacking
00:53:34
Chris
ah
00:53:34
tothezune
Yeah.
00:53:34
Chris
So with your bike camping, are you taking your e-bike?
00:53:37
tothezune
No.
00:53:38
Chris
I don't. That would just...
00:53:39
tothezune
ah but
00:53:39
Chris
God, that would be heavy.
00:53:40
tothezune
That would be heavy. Plus, when the battery runs out, that would suck.
00:53:42
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:45
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:53:49
Chris
So July...
00:53:49
tothezune
Well... and
00:53:50
Chris
So after July, we'll get an update on how bike camping went.
00:53:54
tothezune
yep, you yep.
00:53:55
Chris
Unless you take a little trip before then.
00:53:58
tothezune
I might pick with him.
00:53:59
Chris
You'll have to take like a demo trip just to see. Yeah.
00:54:02
tothezune
Yeah, that's the goal. was going to do one-night overnight trip.
00:54:05
Chris
Are you going to get your wife to do it?
00:54:11
Chris
ah yeah
00:54:12
tothezune
Well, not even a conversation.
Star Wars Celebration Updates
00:54:15
tothezune
Well, on the topic two.
00:54:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:18
Chris
Topic two.
00:54:21
Chris
um so this weekend was, or I guess the start of it, I don't know, yesterday was the Star Wars celebration.
00:54:31
tothezune
Yeah, why did they do that instead of waiting until May the 4th?
00:54:34
Chris
I, I, yeah, I don't understand it either.
00:54:34
tothezune
It never makes sense to me.
00:54:37
Chris
And well, and there were like all these updates at like eight o'clock in the morning. So I guess it's somewhere overseas.
00:54:45
Chris
I don't know. Yeah, it was weird. Um, yeah, I, Some of the ah projects announced and everything I was, I had never heard of, which that's great. I've never heard of them, but like Ryan Gosling is going to be on a star Wars movie called star.
00:54:45
tothezune
didn't think about that.
00:55:00
tothezune
Yes, Starfighter?
00:55:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:03
tothezune
Yeah, weird.
00:55:03
Chris
What? Okay. Um, I did see Sigourney Weaver is going to be in Mandalorian and Grogu.
00:55:13
tothezune
I didn't see that.
00:55:14
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's a crossover with aliens. No.
00:55:19
tothezune
game over man came over
00:55:20
Chris
oh my god although yeah i'm sure there's somewhere a what if or a crossover um but yeah yeah yeah yeah um is there anything like you really are expecting or hoping from star wars or okay
00:55:27
tothezune
Well, because ATE is technically in there, right?
00:55:31
tothezune
Yeah. Nothing saying there can't be xenomorphs.
00:55:43
tothezune
I will say I'm looking forward to Andor Season 2.
00:55:48
Chris
well that starts next month right
00:55:48
tothezune
and No, this month. the
00:55:51
Chris
Oh, this month.
00:55:52
tothezune
This week, I think, actually.
00:55:52
Chris
OK. Oh, wow. OK.
00:55:55
tothezune
It might actually have started yesterday.
00:55:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:58
tothezune
Um, and then i know it didn't get a lot of love, but I do look forward to the Ahsoka season two, which they just replaced Ray, sadly.
00:56:08
Chris
Yes.
00:56:15
Chris
Wait. Wait. Huh?
00:56:19
tothezune
The guy who played the Jedi, the fallen Jedi, Ray, um,
00:56:23
Chris
Oh, oh, oh, okay. um Sorry, I thought you... um Yeah, ah okay.
00:56:28
tothezune
The one passed away, sadly.
00:56:31
Chris
Yes, yeah. Yeah, because it's going to be the Hound.
00:56:32
tothezune
yeah
00:56:36
tothezune
is that who it is?
00:56:37
Chris
Yeah, it's a guy that played the Hound from Game of Thrones.
00:56:37
tothezune
i just saw that they were present. Oh, nice.
00:56:41
Chris
Yeah, right.
00:56:45
Chris
Andor... This can't be right. says Andor season 2... April twenty third But then it says April 22nd for so episode two. That doesn't make sense.
00:56:58
tothezune
I think it is this week.
00:56:58
Chris
April 22nd. Yep, April 22nd.
00:56:59
tothezune
Okay. yeah Yeah, I think it's this week.
00:57:00
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:02
tothezune
so And our season two.
00:57:03
Chris
All right.
00:57:04
tothezune
excited.
00:57:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:05
tothezune
I'm more excited for the shows than I am any movies, sadly.
00:57:08
Chris
Yes. yeah Yeah, I will definitely agree with that. um
00:57:12
tothezune
Yeah.
00:57:14
Chris
Yeah, I want to see the continuation of Ahsoka.
00:57:19
tothezune
And I think...
00:57:20
Chris
Or as I like to see it, the continuation of Rebels.
00:57:26
tothezune
Right. That's how I look at it.
00:57:29
Chris
Although part of me would almost rather it be animated.
00:57:29
tothezune
didn't they yeah
00:57:36
Chris
Because I got to tell you, the Clone Wars and Rebels, that's some of the best Star Wars stuff we've had.
00:57:44
tothezune
ah but besides Rogue One yes I love Rogue One I think Rogue One was one of the best Star Wars movies ever made
00:57:49
Chris
Yes, I know you are a huge Rogue One fan.
00:57:57
tothezune
um
00:57:57
Chris
but See, i if i I want my Star Wars to have lightsabers.
00:58:03
tothezune
It had the best lightsabers in any movie.
00:58:06
Chris
At the last five minutes.
00:58:08
tothezune
And that's what you want out of your lightsaber. You want it to be terrifying and awesome and rare.
00:58:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:14
tothezune
That was the best part of it.
00:58:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:16
tothezune
That was the second best Vader we've ever had. The Obi-Wan Vader was pretty amazing.
00:58:21
Chris
Yes. um Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely the fear, the intimidation, the, ah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:30
tothezune
and Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:31
Chris
The shows have definitely, and I think it's because they can tell a story over multiple episodes as opposed to trying to jam so much crap into, you know, ah two hour movie.
00:58:43
tothezune
Have they announced anything with the Obi-Wan stuff?
00:58:46
Chris
No.
00:58:47
tothezune
Yeah, that's sad.
00:58:48
Chris
Yeah, I know Ewan McGregor has said he's you know absolutely willing to come back, do whatever.
00:58:55
tothezune
And then have they done... Didn't they say there was going to be a Daisy Ridley star war a Jedi Academy kind of show movie or something?
00:59:02
Chris
There's supposed to be something. I haven't heard anything more about that. I did see that Sam Witwer has already filmed or recorded it or whatever. There's going to be a Darth Maul series.
00:59:18
tothezune
Is that gonna be animated? Because that's gotta be animated.
00:59:20
Chris
Yes, yes, that's going to be animated.
00:59:22
tothezune
I'm assuming it's Darth Maul, you know, post, like, right, when he gets his legs cut off.
00:59:25
Chris
Like with the Crimson Sun. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:31
tothezune
With his little weird spider things.
00:59:33
Chris
Yeah, I can't remember exactly what it's called, but yeah, I mean, Sam Witwer does an amazing job with that character. yeah.
00:59:45
tothezune
And I'll be okay if they don't do any more Boba Fett.
00:59:48
Chris
ah yeah
00:59:50
tothezune
It was fine. I don't need any more.
00:59:56
Chris
um the
01:00:01
Chris
it's an animated series coming in 2026. maul the shadow lord so yeah it's about him and the crimson son yeah like yeah yeah
01:00:18
tothezune
But the Starfighter is not till like the 2027, I think.
01:00:27
tothezune
So which means it'll probably be 2028 because, you know, I'm sure they'll have delays.
01:00:27
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:33
tothezune
And apparently whoever the chick, was going to say chick, the female actress who just won an Oscar for some movie turned down being in the Star Wars. She's turned down being in Starfighter and it makes me sad.
01:00:47
Chris
Really?
01:00:48
tothezune
It makes me sad because this is a very, i had never heard of her, young actress, right?
01:00:54
Chris
yeah
01:00:54
tothezune
Like the first Gen Z-er to win an Oscar or something. And like, she should be excited to be in Star Wars, not but like, I don't want to deal with the fan base of Star Wars, which I'm sure was the conversation, right?
01:01:08
Chris
yeah yeah um oh here's why we're getting an announcement so we're this is the star wars celebration japan that we're getting these from
01:01:20
tothezune
and Oh, that's why.
01:01:25
Chris
yeah yeah next star yeah star wars star fighter
01:01:36
Chris
Oh, it's directed by Sean Levy. Hmm.
01:01:40
tothezune
and't know who that is.
01:01:41
Chris
He did Deadpool, Deadpool Wolverine, Free guy
01:01:44
tothezune
Oh, that's cool.
01:01:46
Chris
So, yeah. Yeah. It's a standalone adventure. takes five to six years after the rise of Skywalker. It's not a prequel. It's not a sequel. It's a new adventure. Hmm.
01:01:56
tothezune
That's what I want.
01:01:57
Chris
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:59
tothezune
that That was my problem with Solo. Like, I think if you'd done Solo, a Star Wars story, but it had nothing to do with Han Solo,
01:02:03
Chris
Yeah.
Star Wars Storytelling Preferences
01:02:07
tothezune
it would have been cool.
01:02:07
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:11
tothezune
I think when you're trying to shoehorn characters in, it became a problem.
01:02:19
tothezune
And I don't... I mean, now that Luke's dead, you can't do anything. Anyways, but...
01:02:24
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:25
tothezune
I would have liked some old Luke stuff.
01:02:28
Chris
Yes.
01:02:29
tothezune
I feel like I was robbed of that.
01:02:31
Chris
Right. And I mean, the comics do such a good job. Well, some of them. do such a good job of like bridging the years between, you know, like a new hope and empire and empire and, you know, return the Jedi.
01:02:47
Chris
It's there's, there's so much little stuff that happens.
01:02:48
tothezune
Yeah.
01:02:52
tothezune
Yeah, there and there would have been It would have been nice to have here's Luke 30 years after Jedi. It would have been nice to have that instead of here's Luke crazy person drinking milk after walrus.
01:03:10
Chris
Yeah, that was, yeah.
01:03:13
tothezune
you know But now that that's no longer an option, do standalone stuff.
01:03:14
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:16
tothezune
I'm cool with that.
01:03:17
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:17
tothezune
There's a whole galaxy of things.
01:03:19
Chris
Right.
01:03:19
tothezune
It's cool.
01:03:21
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:21
tothezune
and it you know it's cool You can add one-off Jedi to the... I'm cool with it. You want to add Force users and stuff that are just one-offs?
01:03:31
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:32
tothezune
I'm cool with it. Like, I had no problem with Balin showing up in Ashoka. There wasn't like, oh my god, or there's only two...
01:03:38
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:39
tothezune
sick i did I think that was fine.
01:03:42
Chris
right yeah they're yeah
01:03:46
Chris
yeah it uh i don't know people get so it was they want it this specific way and it's i mean part of it is up into whoever's you know directing producing and all that um but you've also got to you know give them some liberties because when you try to just shoehorn it in then you
01:03:54
tothezune
Right.
01:04:10
Chris
ah Look at what we got with the sequel trilogy.
01:04:13
tothezune
Right. get nobody Nobody wants that.
01:04:18
tothezune
How about this? Just put Dave Filoni in charge and let him run with it. I trust him.
01:04:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:27
tothezune
You know.
01:04:27
Chris
Yeah. Ray Stevenson. That was the actor.
01:04:30
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:30
Chris
Yes. Yeah.
01:04:32
tothezune
you
01:04:33
Chris
Yeah. I mean, I just, yeah. Tell fun stories. Tell little spinoffs. I mean, look at, what was it? The bat the Bad Batch. That's some great stories in there.
01:04:43
tothezune
yeah Yeah. Totally a standalone, has nothing to do with anything, doesn't ever really tie into anything else.
01:04:47
Chris
Yeah.
01:04:51
Chris
Right.
01:04:53
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Little hints here and there, but nothing specific.
01:04:53
tothezune
Cool.
01:04:56
tothezune
Right. Well, even Rebels, right? Like Rebels basically has nothing to do, there's trying to think, there's really no crossover characters besides Thrawn, but you don't really know.
01:04:59
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:09
Chris
Right. God, enemy and you introduce Thrawn to the mainstream.
01:05:13
tothezune
Right. Right.
01:05:16
tothezune
yeah Rebels was great as a standalone. This is happening you know somewhere else in the story. Cool. you know All about it.
01:05:28
tothezune
The Shoka books are like that.
01:05:30
Chris
Mm-hmm.
01:05:33
Chris
Yeah, i mean, other than was...
01:05:34
tothezune
That's one thing I didn't really like about Ashoka.
01:05:35
Chris
other than rex rex was
01:05:38
tothezune
Yeah. Rex is a crossover.
01:05:39
Chris
A crossover. I mean you had Anakin. Vader. Kinda.
01:05:46
tothezune
In Rebels?
01:05:49
Chris
Yeah.
Ahsoka and Vader in 'Rebels'
01:05:50
Chris
Ahsoka.
01:05:53
Chris
Was she like.
01:05:53
tothezune
In Rebels?
01:05:55
Chris
Yeah. i was in Rebels.
01:05:56
tothezune
Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, that's that one.
01:05:58
Chris
Yeah.
01:05:59
tothezune
Yeah.
01:05:59
Chris
Yeah.
01:06:00
tothezune
She fights Vader.
01:06:01
Chris
Yep.
01:06:01
tothezune
Sort of. Yeah.
01:06:02
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah I mean other than those little.
01:06:04
tothezune
You're right.
01:06:07
Chris
Nods and. mentions yeah
01:06:11
tothezune
Yeah, I just want more stuff in the
Hopes for New Star Wars Stories
01:06:13
tothezune
universe. I don't need it to be more stuff with...
01:06:14
Chris
yeah right right yeah
01:06:18
tothezune
you know Luke, per se.
01:06:21
tothezune
That's why I'm kind of hopeful that the Ryan Gosling thing is just ah maybe even like a Dash Rendar type story.
01:06:29
Chris
oh yeah it's a reindeer but yeah yeah let me or even you know
01:06:30
tothezune
That'd be nice. Dash Reindeer. Dash Reindeer.
01:06:38
Chris
Look at, like you said, you the Obi-Wan, we explored more of him and Anakin's relationship and everything. I mean, that book, the brotherhood or brother, brotherhood that talked about a couple of the missions that Anakin and Obi-Wan went on together.
01:06:52
tothezune
Yes.
01:06:56
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Spin out some of those, you know, the ones they talk about.
01:06:58
tothezune
Yeah, there's so so many things you can...
01:07:02
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:05
tothezune
Here's an idea.
Revitalizing Rogue and Wraith Squadron
01:07:06
tothezune
Bring back Rogue Squadron.
01:07:07
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:09
tothezune
Or Ghost Squad, what was Wraith Squadron it was the other one.
01:07:12
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:13
tothezune
Bring that stuff back.
01:07:14
Chris
Right.
01:07:16
tothezune
People want to
01:07:16
Chris
Well, evidently i did look. Sigourney Weaver is supposed to be an X-wing pilot.
Star Wars Spin-off Potential
01:07:22
tothezune
Cool.
01:07:23
Chris
So yeah.
01:07:25
tothezune
she supposed to be Nora Wexley?
01:07:27
Chris
I don't think so.
01:07:27
tothezune
Oh no, Nora was a wide-wing pilot.
01:07:29
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:30
tothezune
I think.
01:07:30
Chris
yeah Yeah. Yeah. That's Snap's mom, right?
01:07:35
tothezune
Yes. Yeah.
01:07:36
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:38
tothezune
who she gets
01:07:38
Chris
yeah
01:07:39
tothezune
She's What are those books? Aftermath?
01:07:44
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:44
tothezune
Yeah.
01:07:45
Chris
Yep.
01:07:45
tothezune
Yeah.
01:07:45
Chris
Yep.
01:07:46
tothezune
She's in those books.
01:07:46
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, even do some spinoffs, like we kind of like the, what if that Disney did for Marvel, but do it for star Wars and bring some of those quote unquote legends books into that.
01:07:49
tothezune
Poor snap.
01:08:04
tothezune
hu
01:08:04
Chris
Oh my gosh. Mara Jade.
01:08:07
tothezune
Yeah, it's so sad that we never got any marriage aid.
01:08:07
Chris
Yeah. ah
01:08:11
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:12
tothezune
Ever. Ever, ever. Yeah, and I mean, ah it's not going happen now, but what are the aliens that invade the...
Exploring New Star Wars Characters
01:08:24
tothezune
Man. With Ben's kid... Ben Solo and the twins. Jason and...
01:08:33
Chris
Oh, yeah. um Oh, I know what you're talking about.
01:08:38
tothezune
Anyways, latest kids. Yeah.
01:08:39
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:42
tothezune
Which we're not going to have now.
01:08:43
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, she yeah flew through the space.
01:08:46
tothezune
Yeah, mean, it's cool to move on.
01:08:50
tothezune
Ugh.
01:08:54
tothezune
It's cool to move on from the old actors, right?
01:08:56
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:56
tothezune
Because, you know, we don't...
01:08:57
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. yeah I mean, look at.
01:09:00
tothezune
Harrison Ford doesn't want to do it.
01:09:01
Chris
Yeah.
01:09:02
tothezune
It's fine.
01:09:02
Chris
Yeah. But he's also ancient.
01:09:05
tothezune
Right, he's also ancient.
01:09:05
Chris
God love him. But yeah.
01:09:08
tothezune
and We've killed him off.
01:09:08
Chris
Yeah.
01:09:09
tothezune
Cool.
01:09:09
Chris
Do a spinoff of the Knights of Ren.
01:09:12
tothezune
Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice?
01:09:13
Chris
God. yeah
01:09:15
tothezune
Wouldn't that be... Have some conversation about what the hell those people were.
01:09:18
Chris
yeah yeah we got and i like you said i know it wasn't met with a lot of fan love but what was the the acolyte
01:09:19
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah. I...
Success of Star Wars Games
01:09:31
tothezune
Yeah. I like the Acolyte.
01:09:32
Chris
that's i did too and at the end i was like is that darth plegas is it's and now we'll never freaking know because bunch of damn neckbeards were bitching on the internet
01:09:36
tothezune
Right.
01:09:39
tothezune
We'll never freaking know.
01:09:44
tothezune
And I assumed it was Dark Blades.
01:09:44
Chris
and
01:09:46
tothezune
That was my...
01:09:47
Chris
yeah yeah and I think that's why you know it's the spin-offs and everything I think that's why the Star Wars was it Fallen Order and whatever but the the the two games that your Cal Kestis
01:09:48
tothezune
I think it was.
01:09:51
tothezune
Yeah. It's...
01:10:06
tothezune
Oh, yeah, yeah, um...
01:10:09
tothezune
God damn it. Fallen Order and Survivor.
01:10:13
Chris
yeah Survivor, yeah, I think that's why they've done well, because they were their own stories.
01:10:15
tothezune
Yeah.
01:10:19
tothezune
hu
01:10:20
Chris
They weren't, you know, oh, well, this is directly impacting this, or, you know, oh, look, let's team. Yeah, you had Boba Fett show up in the one.
01:10:28
tothezune
Yeah, at Vader, technically.
01:10:29
Chris
But, and yeah, and well but it was still, it was that terrifying Vader being Vader stuff.
01:10:37
tothezune
Right. That's
01:10:38
Chris
And it was, yeah.
01:10:40
tothezune
That's the nice thing about Vader is you have this terrifying... like Star Wars has the Vader solution, right? Because you don't have to...
01:10:48
Chris
Yeah.
01:10:51
tothezune
You don't even have to have him do anything.
01:10:53
Chris
Right.
01:10:54
tothezune
He just has to show up. like You just have to hear the...
01:10:56
Chris
Yeah.
Vader's Effective Screen Presence
01:10:58
tothezune
And that's enough, right?
01:10:58
Chris
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. yeah
01:11:00
tothezune
like nobody I don't think anybody complained about the Vader in Rogue One like, oh, we wanted more. I mean, maybe they wanted more, but...
01:11:06
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:07
tothezune
They weren't like, that sucks.
01:11:09
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:09
tothezune
That's what you wanted to see, right? You wanted to see e Vader kill some stupid dudes.
01:11:10
Chris
Right.
01:11:13
Chris
Well, yeah. And because the other stuff, Vader shouldn't be involved in.
01:11:18
tothezune
Right. Yeah. He's not going to be everywhere in in the galaxy.
01:11:21
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:23
tothezune
He's, you know, the right-hand man and the emperor.
01:11:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:27
tothezune
He's a busy guy.
01:11:27
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that's like ah in Rebels, when they leaned more into the Inquisitors and stuff like that. Because that was great.
01:11:36
tothezune
Mm-hmm.
01:11:36
Chris
Because, yeah, let's show what Vader was doing behind the scenes, kind of, to you know try to further his own plots and
01:11:45
tothezune
Yeah, they like totally established all this other stuff going on in the world. Just do that.
01:11:49
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fan Reactions to New Star Wars Movies
01:11:52
tothezune
You know, with people love Star Wars the IP. They don't necessarily... I think the Daisy Ridley movies proved they don't necessarily like it when you mess with the characters they love.
01:12:06
Chris
Right, yeah.
01:12:08
tothezune
Those movies would have been perfectly fine if they were like, and Han Solo is dead, and Leia is dead, and Luke is dead, and this is what's happening now.
01:12:13
Chris
Yeah.
01:12:16
Chris
Yeah.
01:12:16
tothezune
like If you would take all of that stuff out of the movies, I think people would have been happier.
01:12:22
Chris
yeah
01:12:23
tothezune
If you were just like, oh, look, R2-D2, this is Luke Skywalker's droid, but sadly Luke died 20 years ago. you know it would have been a better way to deal with that whole problem.
01:12:29
Chris
yeah yeah yeah look here's the academy that luke started but fell to the wayside you know or yeah yeah
01:12:44
tothezune
Yeah. They didn't do it. You messed with people's beloved characters.
01:12:50
Chris
yeah
01:12:51
tothezune
And I get it.
01:12:52
Chris
And look, Leia had twins because that's what... Twins usually have twins. And, you know, here's yeah here's some new...
01:12:56
tothezune
Right? Yeah.
01:12:59
Chris
Or even if, you know... yeah i know they didn't want it to do this way, but... Yeah, if Ben and Rey had actually been twins that were separated or something...
01:13:13
tothezune
Or instead of this whatever the heck they were.
01:13:16
Chris
ah
01:13:16
tothezune
was
01:13:17
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:13:18
tothezune
Force lovers? I don't know what you call that.
01:13:20
Chris
ah Yeah, that was... Yeah.
01:13:24
tothezune
Yeah.
01:13:24
Chris
Yeah. Forrest, let me teleport to you kind of, sort of weird.
01:13:28
tothezune
yeah
01:13:28
Chris
yeah
01:13:29
tothezune
Weird. The whole thing was weird.
01:13:31
Chris
Yeah.
01:13:31
tothezune
yeah And I think that's why...
01:13:33
Chris
and i And I get everybody loves Chewbacca, but you can't make Chewbacca thousands of years old.
01:13:44
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah. yeah The funny part is I have no desire to see those movies ever again. Like, just, it just doesn't happen.
01:13:53
Chris
Yeah.
01:13:55
Chris
Yeah.
01:13:58
Chris
Right.
01:13:59
tothezune
Because, oh, the ending of the third one is so terrible. Ugh.
01:14:03
Chris
Yeah.
01:14:04
tothezune
Oh, good. I get to see Lando in a lame times.
01:14:08
Chris
ah
01:14:08
tothezune
Cool. Cool.
Praise for Dave Filoni's Storytelling
01:14:10
tothezune
yeah Yeah, tell your own stories. It's cool. we We want to see new stories.
01:14:12
Chris
yeah
01:14:13
Chris
Yeah. yeah Yeah.
01:14:17
tothezune
That's why Dave is a genius.
01:14:19
Chris
Yes. Yeah. In Filoni we trust.
01:14:22
tothezune
In Filoni tries, because he seemingly knows to say, I'm going to tell my own stories in this universe, and there'll be nods, but we're never going to lean on characters that people will love.
01:14:33
Chris
Yeah.
01:14:38
Chris
Right. Yeah.
01:14:42
tothezune
And he made great shows.
01:14:45
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And introduce so many characters that are now, you know, symbolic.
01:14:51
tothezune
Sitting around doing nothing.
01:14:52
Chris
But yeah. Yeah.
01:14:55
tothezune
Yeah. Yeah.
Anticipation for Upcoming Star Wars Content
01:14:58
Chris
Well, hopefully some decent stuff will come out of some of these projects.
01:14:58
tothezune
I do kind of...
01:15:03
tothezune
Yeah, I think the Shoka show will be good, and I think Andor will be good, and...
01:15:06
Chris
Yeah.
01:15:09
tothezune
um I'm hopeful for a Ryan Gosling. I don't think I can say I i watch a Ryan Gosling movie and go, that movie sucked.
01:15:17
Chris
Yeah.
01:15:19
tothezune
You know.
01:15:19
Chris
Did you see him in The Gray Man?
01:15:22
tothezune
I did not.
01:15:23
Chris
Yeah, you should watch The Gray Man. That's a good movie.
01:15:25
tothezune
Well, okay.
01:15:26
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:15:27
tothezune
I mean, he was in Blade Runner, so that's all I need out of life.
01:15:30
Chris
Yeah.
01:15:31
tothezune
Yeah. That Blade Runner was great. Even though people pan it, I still loved it.
01:15:38
Chris
yeah Well, people like to
Science Fiction Movie Timeframes
01:15:40
Chris
hate change. And yeah, again, if it's on the internet, people hate.
01:15:42
tothezune
That's true.
01:15:44
Chris
So.
01:15:44
tothezune
Yeah. I did see some so moron who was like, I mean, the Blade Runner is ridiculous. I mean, the time frame, it's 2025 and we don't have replicates. It's like, it's science fiction, people.
01:15:56
Chris
Oh my gosh.
01:15:58
tothezune
It's fiction is the most important part of that.
01:16:01
Chris
Yeah. I mean, according to that, yeah look at the, is it predator two?
01:16:07
tothezune
Right.
01:16:08
Chris
I mean, 97, we should have had crazy stuff.
01:16:11
tothezune
And the Jetsons were 2000.
01:16:12
Chris
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:16:14
tothezune
So I don't have my flying car and my, I still, still have to do more than press a button at work. And that's, it's killing me.
01:16:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Conclusion and Farewell
01:16:26
Chris
Yeah.
01:16:30
Chris
Well, I think that was a good cast of the pod.
01:16:32
tothezune
Yeah, I think we potted and yeah,
01:16:34
Chris
Everybody got, yeah, yeah. Got a good workout on people's Zunes.
01:16:39
tothezune
there he goes.
01:16:40
Chris
There it is.
01:16:42
tothezune
Well, ah follow us on ah Green Sky at Truett22.
01:16:42
Chris
But, yeah.
01:16:50
Chris
Yeah. It's still on X. I haven't done Blue Sky yet.
01:16:54
tothezune
i play them mean
01:16:55
Chris
I don't know. Yeah.
01:16:56
tothezune
I'm so bad at social media, I didn't even know it was Blue Sky.
01:17:00
Chris
and We've got the Discord.
01:17:02
tothezune
Yeah. And you know what, folks?
01:17:04
Chris
Yeah.
01:17:05
tothezune
Enjoy your spring, because the weather's going to be weird and crappy, but it's going to fun.
01:17:07
Chris
Yes! Yeah. yeah Yeah. Take care, of folks.