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Saturnalia and the death of Gaming

S2 E103 ยท Mythic Giraffe Podcast
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole (cars, bingo, Christmas movies); Ron takes us through the 10 steps to a good Saturnalia; Chris quit Destiny after 7 years. As always please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!

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Amusing Bingo Incident

00:00:07
Chris
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Draft Podcast. I'm Chris.
00:00:10
rondestroyerofleaves
And I'm Ron.
00:00:12
Chris
And I almost slipped the other night because I called Bingo for a charity and I had a microphone in hand and I almost said, welcome back to another episode of Mythic Draft.
00:00:26
Chris
The old biddies would have been like, what's that?
00:00:30
rondestroyerofleaves
That's pretty good.
00:00:31
Chris
Yeah, that's all my wife. I can have Bingo caller to my resume now.
00:00:35
rondestroyerofleaves
That's big dude. That's big, big news.

Charismatic Bingo Caller

00:00:38
Chris
Well, I mean, that qualifies me to be the head coach of the Redskins.
00:00:39
rondestroyerofleaves
I, uh,
00:00:43
rondestroyerofleaves
It's true. That's true.
00:00:47
Chris
ah
00:00:48
rondestroyerofleaves
i I remember the firehouse, but he's got to be dead by now, but the the firehouse bingo caller from when I was a volunteer, and that guy was like a rockstar to those old ladies.
00:00:57
Chris
yeah
00:01:01
rondestroyerofleaves
He would come in and it was like pandemonium.
00:01:01
Chris
yeah yeah
00:01:03
rondestroyerofleaves
He was Elvis walking in that door. And the one time that he was sick or something and he couldn't show up and what, just one of the firefighters, it was like, they were getting to tar and feather.
00:01:10
Chris
Oh.
00:01:12
Chris
Hmm.
00:01:15
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:01:16
rondestroyerofleaves
Crazy.
00:01:17
Chris
That's like I prefaced it. I was like, look, I did this once as a fill in 20 some years ago, so be patient with me. I got done and a bunch of them came up. You did such a good job. It's like, I guess it's all right.
00:01:32
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, that's fun.
00:01:33
Chris
There there were little ladies with their little trolled all sitting out.
00:01:36
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, yeah.
00:01:37
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:01:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Yep.
00:01:40
Chris
So.
00:01:41
rondestroyerofleaves
It's a big deal.
00:01:42
Chris
Yeah. No, it was fun.
00:01:45
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, that's fun.

Yoga Class Adventure

00:01:47
Chris
Yeah, so.
00:01:47
rondestroyerofleaves
That follows the wisdom and rule of things you should do.
00:01:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:53
rondestroyerofleaves
You should always do something that is out of your comfort zone.
00:01:58
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:01:58
rondestroyerofleaves
And I have the perfect example of that.
00:02:01
Chris
Yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, a person at the gym.
00:02:04
Chris
Hmm.
00:02:04
rondestroyerofleaves
was talking to me, that person, she was like, you should come to a yoga class. Because I do some yoga during my workout.
00:02:11
Chris
Hmm.
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rondestroyerofleaves
I'm like, I'm not really comfortable going to a yoga class.
00:02:12
Chris
Okay.
00:02:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:16
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm a big guy, kind of lanky, yeah kind of like clunky and Frankenstein-ish.
00:02:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:22
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't really feel comfortable in that. So I was kind of like, poo poo daddy.
00:02:24
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:25
rondestroyerofleaves
I was like, I probably won't do that. Then I got thinking out, and I was like, oh, I should, I have nothing to lose. I can only gain out of the situation.
00:02:33
Chris
yeah
00:02:36
rondestroyerofleaves
If a bunch of people who I don't know were like, look at that freak, I was only a monster doing yoga.
00:02:41
Chris
Yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
I don't care.
00:02:42
Chris
Yeah, that's true.
00:02:42
rondestroyerofleaves
So, so of course I signed up for the yoga class and it was yesterday morning and I got a phone call from the gym. Uh, we had to cancel the yoga class.
00:02:50
Chris
Oh.
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rondestroyerofleaves
I was like, Oh, all right. Well, no, I had to single it.
00:02:53
Chris
Did you already have your phone picked out?
00:02:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Like, you know.
00:02:59
rondestroyerofleaves
That's what you do, right? Wear a singlet?
00:03:00
Chris
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, I mean, the other day I got a weird look from the chair massage lady that was going around the city when I showed up naked.
00:03:07
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, you have to wear the robe first. Take your robe off.
00:03:10
Chris
They didn't offer a robe so I just walked in naked. Uniform boots and that's it.
00:03:17
rondestroyerofleaves
That's fun.
00:03:18
Chris
Yeah, no.
00:03:18
rondestroyerofleaves
That's a real party.
00:03:20
Chris
Yeah, no.

Traffic Woes and Inventions

00:03:23
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, I've decided I have a new invention for the good of the world.
00:03:26
Chris
Okay.
00:03:28
rondestroyerofleaves
um I am going to invent spikes that shoot out from the passenger side of my vehicle into cars on the driver or passenger side of my, you know, in the inside lane of construction sites and fill their cars with a toxic gas because nothing drives me nuts more than these maniacs who see yields, who see merge signs and decide that they're going to ride all the way down and not merge.
00:03:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:53
Chris
ah god Yeah. Yeah.
00:04:00
rondestroyerofleaves
So that's my, that's my invention for the world.
00:04:01
Chris
Yeah. ah Yeah. I think it'd be great.
00:04:07
Chris
I would use it quite a bit.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, here's the thing. You use it once you got to reload it. So it's only a once per driving time.
00:04:16
Chris
Yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
So, so I can't kill a lot of people.
00:04:21
Chris
Oh, no, no, no, no, I would use it and I would find the next

Holiday Gift Traditions

00:04:24
Chris
gas station to pull over and reload it.
00:04:28
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I was going home from work yesterday and there's construction and it says merge and it's just maniacs are just piling through, piling through.
00:04:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:37
Chris
Yep, yep.
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rondestroyerofleaves
It's like, I want, I want all of you to have bad things happen to you.
00:04:40
Chris
Mm hmm.
00:04:43
Chris
No, yeah, i yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Nothing, nothing makes me angrier in my soul.
00:04:47
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
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rondestroyerofleaves
um I'm on the phone my way.
00:04:49
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will. I will wish upon someone to shit them themselves so often on the road.
00:04:54
rondestroyerofleaves
Yes. Yeah. It's terrible. They heard the. They are the worst.
00:04:59
Chris
no Yeah.
00:05:01
rondestroyerofleaves
So do we have a story for topic two from you or is it a rigmarole story that I'm ready?
00:05:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:05
Chris
Oh, no, it's going to be my story.
00:05:07
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm hearing today.
00:05:11
rondestroyerofleaves
Okay. So it's your topic.
00:05:12
Chris
There's going to be my topic.
00:05:13
rondestroyerofleaves
Okay.
00:05:13
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:13
rondestroyerofleaves
That's fine.
00:05:14
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Now we'll see.
00:05:15
Chris
Yeah. Which did you watch or hear any? I know you didn't watch it. Did you hear anything from the game awards last night?
00:05:21
rondestroyerofleaves
No.
00:05:22
Chris
I did see the trailer. There's the Witcher four.
00:05:26
rondestroyerofleaves
Okay.
00:05:27
Chris
It's it's Siri.
00:05:30
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't know the Witcher enough.
00:05:32
Chris
You didn't play the third one.
00:05:34
rondestroyerofleaves
I've not played any of them.
00:05:36
Chris
Oh, I thought you played the third one.
00:05:37
rondestroyerofleaves
No, never played any of the Witchers.
00:05:38
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. It's a female protagonist.
00:05:42
rondestroyerofleaves
That's awesome.
00:05:43
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:05:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Is she in the show?
00:05:46
Chris
I'm sure I think there is.
00:05:47
rondestroyerofleaves
I watched like three episodes of the show and then lost interest in the show.
00:05:48
Chris
Yes, she is.
00:05:52
Chris
Yeah, it's yeah. Oh, they did announce Borderlands 4.
00:05:57
rondestroyerofleaves
Good. Hot off of that super successful movie.
00:06:04
Chris
Yeah, in a the trailer, whatever, for looks I mean, it's the same, you know, like cell shaded and everything, but. We'll see. Hopefully it's it it doesn't look like it's against whatever.
00:06:19
Chris
Vault tech or whatever. Who are there there?
00:06:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Right.
00:06:21
Chris
So, yeah, I mean, I like Borderlands. It's just three was just so much of the same as two.
00:06:29
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Um, I will say, and I like borderlands. I mean, I named my dog after borderless character for God's sakes.
00:06:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Um, three was, it just felt like a slog. Cause it didn't add anything.
00:06:44
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:46
rondestroyerofleaves
I wasn't like, Oh, I was super excited for this.
00:06:48
Chris
Right.
00:06:49
rondestroyerofleaves
You know, it's, it's kind of the fallout problem for me.
00:06:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:52
Chris
Yeah. Hmm. Yeah.
00:06:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Like fallout. What are you really adding to Fallout nowadays?
00:07:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:03
rondestroyerofleaves
you know
00:07:03
Chris
Yeah.

Birthday Restaurant Reluctance

00:07:06
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, ah Amazon almost ruined my Christmas present for my wife.
00:07:10
Chris
What?
00:07:12
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, so I ordered my wife Christmas presents. They were supposed to arrive Tuesday.
00:07:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:18
rondestroyerofleaves
It says arriving Tuesday. Check it three times.
00:07:21
Chris
Okay.
00:07:22
rondestroyerofleaves
Arriving Tuesday.
00:07:23
Chris
Yep.
00:07:24
rondestroyerofleaves
And I just happened to go out so at my front door on Monday, and they were so their boxes were sitting there.
00:07:30
Chris
Hmm.
00:07:32
rondestroyerofleaves
unwra you know they were They're items that are not in another box, just sitting on the front step.
00:07:37
Chris
Hmm.
00:07:38
rondestroyerofleaves
And I was like, oh, these are here. So I hustled them inside and hide them from my wife.
00:07:42
Chris
hu
00:07:46
rondestroyerofleaves
And I'm like, you you're not allowed to go downstairs. She's like, why? I'm like, just, you're not allowed to go downstairs.
00:07:51
Chris
Bears, there are bears down there.
00:07:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, there's fairies downstairs. Bees! and uh then of course i'm like dirty i'm in a hurry now dirty wrapping paper no i throw all the wrapping paper away because the dog gotta to do it son of a and it's like now you know too late to go get wrapping paper it's been an event this week where am i gonna go i meant like it was like nine o'clock at night
00:08:10
Chris
ah It's not too late to get wrapping paper. The stores are quite mild and tame. There's not really anybody in them. Just slip in and out.
00:08:24
Chris
I mean, you don't want to forage at Walmart at 9.30 at night.
00:08:29
rondestroyerofleaves
I never go to Walmart.
00:08:31
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:34
rondestroyerofleaves
We don't have Walmart close to me, which is to the good, I think.
00:08:36
Chris
that's That's good. Yeah, yeah.
00:08:42
Chris
I don't know. My wife and I, we don't do gifts anymore, so.
00:08:46
rondestroyerofleaves
We say that every time, and then we still do it.
00:08:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:50
rondestroyerofleaves
And then, of course,
00:08:50
Chris
Yeah. Our gift to one another is we get that house cleaned twice a month.
00:08:57
rondestroyerofleaves
That's so ah a nice gift.
00:08:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:00
rondestroyerofleaves
The family still expects gifts, which is bonkers to me.
00:09:06
Chris
I see we don't, I set the rules down with my family. I said, kids can get presents. That's fine. Nobody nobody else.
00:09:13
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. May that would be nice to have that.
00:09:13
Chris
I said, we'll give you a calendar every year that has pictures of the kids. That's, that's it. But my mother's still like, Oh, look at you sit for your birthday.
00:09:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:09:22
Chris
Like you don't need to.
00:09:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:27
Chris
so
00:09:28
rondestroyerofleaves
My mother, bless her, bless her heart. You know, she's coming out for my birthday this year for like, she's bored.
00:09:32
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:09:36
rondestroyerofleaves
And she's like, Oh, I take it to this restaurant. I don't want to go to that restaurant. Don't you want to go to this? And it's a very fancy restaurant.
00:09:42
Chris
so what who why would jacket and a tie
00:09:42
rondestroyerofleaves
I said, do I have to wear pants? She's like, you have to wear a jacket and a tie. I said, then I don't want to go to that restaurant. Yeah.
00:09:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh yeah.

Fire Station Sign Controversy

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rondestroyerofleaves
Very fancy restaurant.
00:09:57
Chris
but you dining with the underhills ah Oh.
00:10:00
rondestroyerofleaves
Probably actually, more like the DuPonts, but yeah.
00:10:05
rondestroyerofleaves
and you know she was She just couldn't understand it. I'm like, I have no desire to spend my birthday dressed up in clothes that I don't know where, eating food that's probably not that great, paying way too much for it.
00:10:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:17
rondestroyerofleaves
She's like, well, I'll be paying for it.
00:10:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:17
rondestroyerofleaves
and I said, i don't that doesn't that hast factor into my system.
00:10:22
Chris
Yeah, and Mom, that cuts into my inheritance, damn it.
00:10:25
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. And on top of that, I told her, I was like, you know, the wife and I are being super healthy. So we're not going to be wanting to go out a lot while you're here because she's always wants to eat out all the time.
00:10:32
Chris
Yeah. Right. Oh, she's one of them.
00:10:39
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Will we ah not doing that?
00:10:44
Chris
Yeah, good for you.
00:10:47
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:10:47
Chris
I'd say last night I was, we were getting home late because my youngest had a long session at the gym. So I was at home, I was like, gosh, I don't feel like cooking.
00:10:58
Chris
But I was like, you know what? No, I'm not going to stop and get something. I'm going to come home and cook. And I'm so glad I did. So I
00:11:04
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:11:06
Chris
had some roasted Brussels sprouts with gnocchi and herb butter.
00:11:15
rondestroyerofleaves
That sounds amazing to me.
00:11:17
Chris
Yeah, i did I did not hand-make the gnocchi. I haven't gotten to that point yet.
00:11:22
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, that's a lot of work, right? You gotta, like, mill the potatoes and everything.
00:11:27
Chris
yeah Yeah, we don't have a food middle, so.
00:11:29
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, well, it's gonna be real tough.
00:11:31
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we've got you know the stone pestle that circles around that we strap the dogs to, but.
00:11:41
Chris
What is going on out there?
00:11:42
rondestroyerofleaves
How does that go?
00:11:44
Chris
Truths are just grinding wheat again.
00:11:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:50
rondestroyerofleaves
That's a lot of work that I don't want to do.
00:11:54
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:58
Chris
It's had your ah Thanksgiving turn out.
00:12:01
rondestroyerofleaves
ah Fine. I mean, we pretty much did nothing.
00:12:08
Chris
Good.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, we had a friendsgiving on this Saturday, which went pretty well.
00:12:12
Chris
Oh, nice. Nice.
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rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it was a different group of friends than I normally hang out with.
00:12:21
Chris
Oh, okay.
00:12:22
rondestroyerofleaves
And because I wasn't really sure how the vibe was going to be.
00:12:28
Chris
Hmm.
00:12:30
rondestroyerofleaves
They took a lot of very delicious looking food that I did not eat.
00:12:34
Chris
Ah.
00:12:34
rondestroyerofleaves
And they were like, you sure you don't want? I'm like, I mean, Yes, I want to eat that entire they made like this.
00:12:43
rondestroyerofleaves
It was like it was like a deconstructed pie, but I mean, almost like like sticky toffee pudding like man.
00:12:44
Chris
Ooh.
00:12:50
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm in for all of that, but I'm not going to eat any of it because.
00:12:53
Chris
yeah yeah yeah it's it's tough willpower though willpower discipline discipline are they still baffled that you take a fish oil every day because the doctor told you to
00:12:57
rondestroyerofleaves
The self denial is key to life.
00:13:07
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I talk about with the nutritionist all the time.
00:13:21
rondestroyerofleaves
The doctor is.
00:13:23
Chris
God, that's, I just, I don't understand that.
00:13:27
rondestroyerofleaves
It just says a lot about ah people, I guess.
00:13:35
Chris
Yeah, I guess. Well, yeah, because we're also the society that have, you know, they tell parents, now put something in the back seat that's, you know, extra special to you so you remember to take your kids out.
00:13:48
Chris
It's like, shouldn't the kid be extra special?
00:13:48
rondestroyerofleaves
but
00:13:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it's a fair, fair point.
00:13:57
Chris
Yeah. ah Side tangent, what does SWAG stand for, S-W-A-G?
00:14:03
rondestroyerofleaves
Is this answer something?
00:14:05
Chris
Yeah, it's like stuff we all get or something.

Top Christmas Movies Debate

00:14:08
rondestroyerofleaves
Okay, did none of that.
00:14:09
Chris
But it's but it's you know like a little thing you get at like a party or whatever, or an event.
00:14:14
rondestroyerofleaves
Sure, like the swag bag.
00:14:16
Chris
There's this stupid produce stand down from us. that we have holiday wreaths and swags for sale. What the fuck is a swag?
00:14:28
rondestroyerofleaves
Uh, I don't know.
00:14:30
Chris
God, I almost want to stop there and ask them.
00:14:36
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:14:36
Chris
Yeah. yes
00:14:39
rondestroyerofleaves
That's, uh, weird.
00:14:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:44
Chris
yeah
00:14:47
rondestroyerofleaves
Uh, yeah. what and Wait, do they mean swags or sways?
00:14:54
Chris
It said S-W-A-G local S.
00:14:57
rondestroyerofleaves
because aren't sways like the reeds, but they're you know long lines.
00:15:07
Chris
Swayze?
00:15:08
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I know what those are called.
00:15:12
Chris
I don't see any, I mean, can I just hold sway over someone? I don't know.
00:15:23
Chris
Evidently, there's a website called Sway.
00:15:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Sure. sure
00:15:27
Chris
To get started with Sway, visit sway.office.com.
00:15:31
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, swags are fabric lengths that can drape gracefully across the top of a window, creating a soft and flowing effect.
00:15:36
Chris
Huh.
00:15:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Those are called swags. They're not called sways, they're called swags.
00:15:41
Chris
Okay, so they're, they want, maybe they are selling swags.
00:15:44
rondestroyerofleaves
There they are.
00:15:45
Chris
Okay. Yeah.
00:15:46
rondestroyerofleaves
See?
00:15:48
rondestroyerofleaves
Boom.
00:15:50
Chris
Hmm.
00:15:53
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, I don't know if you've heard the, ah this kind of goes into my topic for the topic for it, but I don't know if you heard the great news that the Salisbury Fire Department has put me in charge of the sign outside of station one.
00:16:07
Chris
Ah, nice.
00:16:09
rondestroyerofleaves
And they made a comment, well, it should be outdated to say, you know, Merry Christmas. And I said over my dead body that will be, I'm thinking of putting happy non-denominational winter festivities.
00:16:16
Chris
No, yeah, no, happy holidays or happy December.
00:16:24
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:26
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, they did not like that.
00:16:30
Chris
What?
00:16:30
rondestroyerofleaves
So, well, you picked the wrong person to be in charge of the sign, I think.
00:16:31
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:35
rondestroyerofleaves
Because, you know, I have very strict ah rules about government buildings and holidays.
00:16:40
Chris
Yes. Yeah.
00:16:42
rondestroyerofleaves
So apparently, I caused the hubbub by leaving Happy Thanksgiving up for a week to leave.
00:16:48
Chris
Really?
00:16:49
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:51
Chris
Why why did it?
00:16:53
rondestroyerofleaves
ah Apparently,
00:16:54
Chris
Did they want you to say Merry Thanksgiving?
00:16:56
rondestroyerofleaves
a deputy chief, three people from the um civilians, and a lieutenant all complained that it still said, happy Thanksgiving a week later.
00:17:08
rondestroyerofleaves
So it was an emergency that I fixed it. I said, well, I'm sorry that I was really busy on my last shift and I forgot to change it.
00:17:13
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:16
Chris
yeah
00:17:16
rondestroyerofleaves
I apologize.
00:17:17
Chris
and
00:17:18
rondestroyerofleaves
I'll tell all the people to stop calling now and once so I can fix the sign.
00:17:22
Chris
So people really complained?
00:17:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Apparently.
00:17:26
Chris
Oh my god.
00:17:31
Chris
Yeah, there are there are bigger things to worry about.
00:17:31
rondestroyerofleaves
so Of all the things in the world to worry about, then the sign in front of the fire station saying, Happy Thanksgiving on December the 4th.
00:17:37
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Hey, it was a late Thanksgiving. We didn't get the whole effect.
00:17:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:50
rondestroyerofleaves
We're trying to draw our time out.
00:17:51
Chris
but And also, sorry that yeah i'm sorry that one imaginary holiday overshadowed another.
00:17:52
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm sorry that you you maniacs want Christmas from October 31st on.
00:18:07
rondestroyerofleaves
That's fair. for
00:18:10
Chris
oh so Side tangent that kind of ties into that. Taking my youngest to the gym yesterday, and this thing comes on the radio.
00:18:17
rondestroyerofleaves
That's fair.
00:18:18
Chris
It's talking about the top five Christmas movies of all time. National Lampoons did not make that.
00:18:24
rondestroyerofleaves
What?
00:18:25
Chris
And I was like, that's one of the best movies. She's like, no one likes that movie. It's like, you shut your mouth.
00:18:29
rondestroyerofleaves
What?
00:18:30
Chris
Everyone likes that movie.
00:18:32
rondestroyerofleaves
Everyone loves that movie.
00:18:33
Chris
Yes.
00:18:34
rondestroyerofleaves
That's a beloved movie.
00:18:36
Chris
Yes.
00:18:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Even I love that movie.
00:18:40
Chris
yeah
00:18:41
rondestroyerofleaves
And I hate everything.
00:18:42
Chris
yeah You dressed up as it one year for Halloween.
00:18:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it wasn't for Halloween, it was for a charity event, but yeah.
00:18:49
Chris
Or for whatever, yeah.
00:18:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:18:51
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:18:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Crazy.
00:18:53
Chris
Yeah, if if if your friends group doesn't quote something from that movie at least three times between now and New Year's, there's something wrong with them.
00:19:00
rondestroyerofleaves
They're not friends or human beings.
00:19:03
Chris
Yeah, yeah, robot.
00:19:06
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:06
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't know if I should have gone down a hill Clark with nothing between my brain and a piece of government plastic. Would it really make a difference Eddie?
00:19:12
Chris
You really think I'm gonna make a difference, Eddie? Yeah, my part's right there. This side, it's fine, this side.
00:19:17
rondestroyerofleaves
right
00:19:19
Chris
My hair would be all messed up. I said my brother posted something the other day on social media and he was like, yeah, that moon, it was a picture of Eddie, kind of dumbfounded.
00:19:29
Chris
It was like, when you realize that you're your family's cousin, Eddie.
00:19:35
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, my brother is definitely my cousin, Eddie.
00:19:37
Chris
Yeah. Oh, I'm on a hunt now.
00:19:37
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:19:39
Chris
I am gonna give him the white V-neck, A long sleeve shirt with a black dicky and white winged tip shoes.
00:19:45
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, yeah. Yes.
00:19:47
Chris
I gotta find them.
00:19:48
rondestroyerofleaves
That's that's the classic outfit.
00:19:51
Chris
Yes.
00:19:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, yes, folks, go watch National Lampoon's.
00:19:56
Chris
Mmm.
00:19:59
rondestroyerofleaves
And what movies made it on top of that? Let me guess, hold on, because this was your hillbilly area so ah Christmas story okay ah ah the movie's fine it just gets played way too much ah it's a wonderful life um Snoopy Christmas or Charlie Brown Christmas
00:20:14
Chris
That was number two, I think? I hate that movie. God, I don't, and don't I don't hate it. Yeah, it's just, yeah. Yep.
00:20:32
Chris
Yep. Yeah.
00:20:36
Chris
Which Snoopy's the only decent part of those.
00:20:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Right, so there's the top three.
00:20:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:42
rondestroyerofleaves
Uhh... You hillbilly's. What do you hillbilly's like?
00:20:45
Chris
The Grinch.
00:20:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, the stupid Grinch. And they probably mean the wrong one.
00:20:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Because they're maniacs.
00:20:51
Chris
They probably met the Jim Carrey one.
00:20:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:20:54
Chris
Yeah, it should be the cartoon.
00:20:54
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. And... Die hard.
00:20:58
Chris
No, no, they didn't have Die Hard.
00:21:00
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh. That's sad.
00:21:02
Chris
I can't i remember what the fifth one was.
00:21:05
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, it should be... Well, number one should be Curse of Vacation.
00:21:07
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:21:09
rondestroyerofleaves
Number two is die hard.
00:21:10
Chris
Number two, Die Hard. Yeah. I feel like, oh, it's not a Christmas story just because it takes place during Christmas.
00:21:16
rondestroyerofleaves
Christmas is a pivotal part of the plot.
00:21:17
Chris
No.
00:21:19
Chris
Well, it's also it it embodies the Christmas spirit. This man is forced to go to a loved one's stupid work event and gets tangled into bull crap.
00:21:30
rondestroyerofleaves
It's true.
00:21:31
Chris
That that that's Christmas.
00:21:32
rondestroyerofleaves
It's Christmas.
00:21:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:34
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:21:36
Chris
Yeah, John McLean would have much rather been sitting at home drinking a beer and watching TV, but no, we had to have a party at Nakatomi Plaza on Christmas Eve.
00:21:41
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, and they don't even have a great relationship. He lives in New York. She lives in LA.
00:21:48
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:50
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it's Christmas movie.
00:21:51
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:21:52
rondestroyerofleaves
They kind of come back together. It's a Hallmark kind of thing.
00:21:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it's a great Christmas movie.
00:21:59
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:00
rondestroyerofleaves
And there's a guy who's thrown off of a building, which is representative of Santa going down the chimney.
00:22:07
Chris
Yes.
00:22:09
rondestroyerofleaves
And he's giving presents to all the terrorists.
00:22:09
Chris
Yes. Yes, he is.
00:22:13
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:22:13
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:14
rondestroyerofleaves
Come on, people.
00:22:15
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. It's got pastries. It's got.
00:22:18
rondestroyerofleaves
It's got everything.
00:22:20
Chris
Yeah.

Celebrating Saturnalia

00:22:24
Chris
Well, you're ready for topic one.
00:22:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, ready to be on the... Yeah.
00:22:27
Chris
All right.
00:22:28
rondestroyerofleaves
My topic is a traditional topic on this casting of the pod, because this would be our last one before the Yule, right?
00:22:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:37
Chris
It is. Yeah, it is the last before the Yule. The Yule lads are about ready to fire up.
00:22:42
rondestroyerofleaves
They are. Yeah, there. Well, I want you guys to know the 10 ways to celebrate your Saturn area.
00:22:50
Chris
OK.
00:22:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Because, you know, we have to do it correctly.
00:22:55
Chris
Yes.
00:22:55
rondestroyerofleaves
First, we're going to wear the colors of the holiday. Do you know what the colors of the holiday are?
00:23:00
Chris
ah Green and white.
00:23:02
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, you're so close. You are halfway there. It's green and gold.
00:23:05
Chris
Green and some Gold, I almost said gold.
00:23:09
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:23:10
Chris
Go with your gut.
00:23:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Green and gold. We're going to add decorate our doorways, windows, and even the stairs with greenery. Garlands and wreaths are ideal. Add gold cutouts of the sun or golden pine cones, nuts, and acorns.
00:23:23
Chris
That makes sense. Okay, yeah. Oh, looking around, my wife kind of did that.
00:23:27
rondestroyerofleaves
If you have
00:23:29
Chris
We've got greenery above all the cabinets and there are golden balls amongst it.
00:23:34
rondestroyerofleaves
See? See? If you're living, if you have any living trees on your property, hang them with sun symbols and stars and faces of the god Janus, who watches over the end of the old year and the beginning of the new. It's the two-faced god.
00:23:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:47
rondestroyerofleaves
Trees are not brought on doors in Roman times, but were decorated where they grew.
00:23:52
Chris
That makes sense. why Yeah. Why would you kill a tree to?
00:23:55
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. Leave it where it is. Celebrate it being there.
00:23:57
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:59
rondestroyerofleaves
Make cookies in the shapes of fertility symbols.
00:23:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:01
rondestroyerofleaves
Suns, moons, stars, and herd animal shapes.
00:24:06
Chris
ah Really?
00:24:06
rondestroyerofleaves
Add green or or gold food colors or sprinklers. Sprinkles.
00:24:10
Chris
Huh. So you should make
00:24:12
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah
00:24:14
Chris
Cookies that are in the shape of pigs and cows and huh. Okay.
00:24:23
rondestroyerofleaves
Drink and enjoy Mulsim. A drink of wine and honey. Mulsim.
00:24:28
Chris
Molesome, hmm. Is that where mulled wine comes from?
00:24:35
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't know.
00:24:36
Chris
Because mulled, I mean, well, mulled wine has herbs and yeah.
00:24:39
rondestroyerofleaves
Bowling spices. Greet people with the traditional cry of Yo, Saturnalia.
00:24:49
Chris
Oh, I am so starting that next week at work.
00:24:53
rondestroyerofleaves
Good, good.
00:24:54
Chris
Yes. Yo, Saturnalia.
00:24:58
rondestroyerofleaves
ah This is timely important, you need to know. Invite your friends over for a feast and party on December the 17th.
00:25:06
Chris
Oh, it's Tuesday.
00:25:09
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:25:11
Chris
Yep, it's a good thing this is coming out Monday the 16th, so then our listeners will be aware.
00:25:13
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, you have time.
00:25:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:17
rondestroyerofleaves
ah Give small presents, including presents of food or sweets or candles or lamps. ah Attach a clever note or short witty poems to your gifts.
00:25:23
Chris
Okay.
00:25:26
rondestroyerofleaves
Read the Roman poet Marshall, Xenia, and Agra Freda for synthetic examples from Roman times.
00:25:35
Chris
Now, do you have to write the poem yourself?
00:25:39
rondestroyerofleaves
I know, you could use others, I'm sure.
00:25:41
Chris
Yeah, okay. All right.
00:25:45
rondestroyerofleaves
Make sure your lirarium is clean. Safely light a candle there and display and decorate a set ah statue of Saturness.
00:25:54
rondestroyerofleaves
you know
00:25:54
Chris
What's the Larium?
00:25:56
rondestroyerofleaves
It's your household shrine.
00:25:57
Chris
Look. OK.
00:26:01
Chris
All right. I've got to get mine cleaned up.
00:26:03
rondestroyerofleaves
Yep, get yourself your shrine cleaned up. Celebrate freedom and destroy hierarchies. Saturnalia was a type of opposite day, which slaves can enjoy luxury goods alongside their masters. You may want to wear a Pelleus or a conical felt cap, and like which represented freedom.
00:26:18
Chris
Huh.
00:26:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, there you can see.
00:26:21
Chris
Oh, dang. See, to tear down the hierarchy.
00:26:25
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, tired of the hierarchy.
00:26:26
Chris
Hmm. Hmm.
00:26:30
rondestroyerofleaves
So that's your 10 most important ways to get your Saturnalia on.
00:26:33
Chris
Hmm.
00:26:37
Chris
And it's easy to see how so many of them have been adapted and bastardized into other things.
00:26:43
rondestroyerofleaves
100%.
00:26:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:26:52
rondestroyerofleaves
The poet Lucian of Samusota, 120 to 180 AD, describes Saturnania like this. Secondly, during my week, the Sirius is barred, no business all allowed, drinking and being drunk, noise and games and dice, appointing of kings and feasting of slaves, singing naked, clapping of tremulous hands, and occasional ducking of corked faces in icy water.
00:27:18
rondestroyerofleaves
That's the, yeah.
00:27:21
Chris
What's a corked face?
00:27:22
rondestroyerofleaves
i don't know
00:27:24
Chris
Okay.
00:27:26
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah yeah
00:27:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:29
rondestroyerofleaves
There was a Greek equivalent for the holiday, Greek holiday for Cronus, the Greek equivalent of Saturn, known as the cronia, but it was held in the summer.
00:27:35
Chris
Huh.
00:27:39
rondestroyerofleaves
Fun fact.
00:27:44
Chris
Cork faced.
00:27:52
Chris
um Yeah, I'm not finding anything. I can get you a nice four by eight by a half inch roll of premium face grade material.
00:28:05
rondestroyerofleaves
Let's see the recipe for making Muslim. Muslim. Muslim.
00:28:08
Chris
Molesome? Not Molson.
00:28:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Okay, you're gonna need honey and a medium dry white rind.
00:28:12
Chris
OK.
00:28:15
rondestroyerofleaves
White wine.
00:28:15
Chris
Oh, that's easy.
00:28:17
rondestroyerofleaves
Add a half a cup of honey to a bottle of medium dry white rind. Store it a very cool place and bring it out just before serving to ensure that it's cool chilled taste is retained. If you want to add some spices to it,
00:28:30
Chris
Oh.
00:28:30
rondestroyerofleaves
You can add cinnamon stick, nutmeg, cloves, natural sweetener, and a slice of orange.
00:28:37
Chris
More natural sweetener, you have honey in it already.
00:28:39
rondestroyerofleaves
It kind of sounds pretty good.
00:28:41
Chris
It does sound delightful.
00:28:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:46
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, this is a side tangent to all this nonsense.
00:28:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:49
Chris
OK.
00:28:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Do you know what a Christmas pudding is?
00:28:55
Chris
Isn't it like a meat pudding or something?
00:28:57
rondestroyerofleaves
It's not.
00:28:58
Chris
Or no, it's like a pastry.
00:29:01
rondestroyerofleaves
It's not.
00:29:02
Chris
No? Oh god.
00:29:04
rondestroyerofleaves
I didn't know this either. I knew what pudding traditionally meant.
00:29:05
Chris
Okay.
00:29:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:09
rondestroyerofleaves
Pudding means steamed, basically.
00:29:12
Chris
Okay.
00:29:13
rondestroyerofleaves
So it's a spiced, steamed cake, I guess. But apparently you're supposed to feed it for like a month or more.
00:29:24
Chris
What?
00:29:27
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, so they keep it in a warm, humid location and they just keep adding alcohol to it until it soaks up all the alcohol that it can soak up.
00:29:34
Chris
Oh.
00:29:37
Chris
okay Oh, Oh, that.
00:29:38
rondestroyerofleaves
And that is a Christmas pudding. It kind of sounds disgusting to be fair.
00:29:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:46
Chris
Oh, God, let me warm and humid and all that sugar.
00:29:47
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:29:50
Chris
I mean, that's just a breeding ground for mold and bacteria.
00:29:54
rondestroyerofleaves
I think all the that liquor kills all that.
00:29:57
Chris
Maybe. i don't And what kind of liquor?
00:30:02
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, but I guess Rome's brandy is whatever you want, I guess.
00:30:09
Chris
Yeah, because I know putting a lot like Yorkshire pudding is like a doughy bread thing.
00:30:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. But it's steamed technically in the oven, and that's why it's.
00:30:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:30:21
Chris
Uh oh.
00:30:22
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh.
00:30:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Gambling was typically it was openly allowed during Saturnalia. Stakes for these games include coins and nuts.
00:30:36
Chris
Is that why people say, oh, nuts?
00:30:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Maybe.
00:30:39
Chris
Maybe. Because they didn't win the coin. They won the nuts.
00:30:42
rondestroyerofleaves
Mm-hmm. On December 19th, known as Siglaria gifting, giving was next customary.
00:30:44
Chris
Hmm.
00:30:48
Chris
OK.
00:30:49
rondestroyerofleaves
The gifts were typically modest.
00:30:50
Chris
So that's when you give the candle or the lantern.
00:30:53
rondestroyerofleaves
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:30:54
Chris
OK. All right.
00:30:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Mm-hmm. Uh, the Saturnalikeus Princeps, known as the ruler of Saturnalia, who presided over the festivities as the master of ceremonies. selected by a lot this figure has been looking to the medieval lord of misrule at the feast of fools his command such as sing naked or throw him into cold water had to be obeyed think it's a different commands yeah
00:31:17
Chris
ah Wait, were those two different commands, or was it a command and a um which call it result if you didn't?
00:31:29
Chris
OK.
00:31:33
Chris
It's just walking along, swing naked. OK.
00:31:39
Chris
I'm not going to try that one at work.
00:31:41
rondestroyerofleaves
No, let's not do that one at work.
00:31:43
Chris
now No, no.
00:31:46
rondestroyerofleaves
But that is all I have on Saturnalia, sadly.
00:31:48
Chris
Hm.
00:31:49
rondestroyerofleaves
But please make sure your statue to Saturn is cleaned and venerated.
00:31:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:55
Chris
Yes. Yep. Is there a specific way it should it should face?
00:32:02
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't think that that matters in Roman.
00:32:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:07
rondestroyerofleaves
times and Greek times they had to be inside of the Megaron which was your family temple area but I don't know that that same rule applies in the Roman times now actually I think Janus faces the gates of Rome and whichever face is facing is whether they're at war or not
00:32:08
Chris
Yeah. Hm.
00:32:12
Chris
Hm.
00:32:15
Chris
OK.
00:32:18
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know if, like, with Janice, with the two-face, you wanted it facing the sunrise. So the backside of it would be.
00:32:31
Chris
OK. OK.
00:32:36
Chris
Mm.
00:32:38
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:32:38
Chris
That's an easy indication.
00:32:40
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. You'll all wake up, you'll all go, oh crap, we're at war.
00:32:42
Chris
it's my Yeah, Janice is smiling today.
00:32:50
Chris
Or who knows, maybe Jana smiled because there was war.
00:32:53
rondestroyerofleaves
With Romans, quite possibly that was more correct.
00:32:55
Chris
Yep.
00:32:57
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. They loved their wars.
00:32:58
Chris
There's trouble afoot. Speak the side tangent. run um Have you watched the new gladiator movie?
00:33:07
rondestroyerofleaves
I have not.
00:33:08
Chris
I got no, I'll watch it maybe when it comes out on home streaming or something. but
00:33:15
rondestroyerofleaves
I didn't hear very good things.
00:33:18
Chris
I heard it was just like the first one told again. so And the first one was a masterpiece at the time.
00:33:28
rondestroyerofleaves
It was pretty good.
00:33:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:32
rondestroyerofleaves
If you ignore a lot of the history part it's pretty good.
00:33:34
Chris
Oh, yes. Yeah. I'm talking about the the acting and just, yeah.
00:33:36
rondestroyerofleaves
but yes oh yeah for an action movie pretty on point you can't get much better than i am maximus decimus son to a murdered wait father to a murdered son husband to a murdered wife yeah commander of the armies of the north yes
00:33:41
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:56
Chris
yeah Yeah. I'll have my revenge in this life or the next. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:06
rondestroyerofleaves
It's a good, good, good movie.
00:34:07
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:10
rondestroyerofleaves
And if you go past some of the plot problems, the history is not terrible.
00:34:17
Chris
yeah
00:34:17
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:34:21
rondestroyerofleaves
Some of those things could have happened.
00:34:25
rondestroyerofleaves
And the costume is pretty good.
00:34:31
rondestroyerofleaves
It's a good movie. Highly recommend.

Celtic Pagan Holidays Misinformation

00:34:37
Chris
see. What other centred Nalia facts?
00:34:44
rondestroyerofleaves
I was gonna go over the 12 Yuletide things. But every time I start doing any research on Celtic pagan holidays, it makes me mad because it's all bullshit that somebody in the 70s made up.
00:34:48
Chris
Yeah. Is it really?
00:34:58
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh yeah, 100%.
00:34:59
Chris
um Oh, I didn't know that.
00:35:00
rondestroyerofleaves
If you see someone say, this is traditional Celtic, therere they're lying, or druidic, they're lying.
00:35:06
Chris
Oh, OK.
00:35:08
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah First off,
00:35:09
Chris
Yeah, well, I mean, there's so few druids out there. I mean, shape changers and.
00:35:13
rondestroyerofleaves
There's zero. Exactly zero. The Romans killed them all.
00:35:17
Chris
Hmm, yeah.
00:35:19
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah
00:35:19
Chris
Hmm.
00:35:22
Chris
Yeah, let's see.
00:35:26
Chris
that's a ye The neo-Platonist philosopher Porifer, Periphery, interpreted the freedom of Saturnalia as symbolizing the freeing of souls into immortality.
00:35:44
rondestroyerofleaves
It's one thing I know at the Romans. They knew how to party.
00:35:51
Chris
Yeah, definitely.
00:35:53
rondestroyerofleaves
They loved.
00:35:54
Chris
Slave streets of banquets, Yeah.
00:35:58
rondestroyerofleaves
Which that went on for centuries after the Romans.
00:36:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:02
rondestroyerofleaves
Though.
00:36:03
Chris
Was that where Boxing Day comes from?
00:36:04
rondestroyerofleaves
I think that is what box today is, right? Like, isn't that like the whole thing that supposed to give the servants presents and feed them a feast.
00:36:07
Chris
Yeah, yours.
00:36:10
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:13
Chris
Hmm.
00:36:19
rondestroyerofleaves
We don't do that in America because you know we treat our servers like crap every day.
00:36:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:27
Chris
hu The toga was set aside in favor of the Greek synthesis, a colorful dinner cloth, otherwise considered in poor taste for daytime wear. Romans of citizen status normally went about bareheaded, but for the Saturnae, the pilius that you talked about, the conical felt cap.
00:36:44
rondestroyerofleaves
Which I had always heard is the phrygian cap, but I guess it may be slightly different.
00:36:45
Chris
yeah
00:36:48
Chris
Hmm.
00:36:53
rondestroyerofleaves
I always get my piliuses and phrygians confused.
00:36:58
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely gambling, gift giving.
00:37:02
rondestroyerofleaves
I mean, we gamble on Christmas now.
00:37:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:11
rondestroyerofleaves
I can't believe that I'm not going to kill somebody. So far, successfully.
00:37:16
Chris
Oh, it's Eo Saturnalia, not Eo.
00:37:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, EO.
00:37:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:26
rondestroyerofleaves
We'll definitely do that.
00:37:26
Chris
eo uh yeah eo yes oh it yeah it's pronounced either with two syllables a short i and long o or as a single syllable with the i becoming the latin consonant consonatal j and pronounced yo so yo or eo okay
00:37:27
rondestroyerofleaves
It's going to be better.
00:37:48
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, okay. Yeah.
00:37:52
Chris
It was a strong emotive ritual exclamation for invocation used for announcing triumph or celebrating Bacchus, but also to punctuate a joke. So you tell a joke and, yo, Saturday area.
00:38:06
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm going to be super obnoxious at work starting Sunday.
00:38:08
Chris
Yes. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:38:18
rondestroyerofleaves
Good old, yo, Saturnalia.
00:38:22
Chris
yeah ah during the late medieval period and early renaissance many towns in england elected a lord of misrule like your feast of fools yeah but the 12th night or epiphany common tradition in western europe was to drop a bean coin or other small token into a cake or pudding whoever found the object would become the king or queen of the bean
00:38:23
rondestroyerofleaves
You're all fired. Yo, Saturnalia.
00:38:50
rondestroyerofleaves
Kind of like the Mardi Gras thing.
00:38:52
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:38:54
rondestroyerofleaves
I think that's called a Kinkig.
00:38:55
Chris
The Puritans banned the Lord of Misrule and the custom is largely forgotten.
00:38:59
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, period insert.
00:39:00
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:02
rondestroyerofleaves
Kind of Debbie Downers and everything.
00:39:06
Chris
The bean in this pudding has survived as a tradition of small gift, ah the one finding a single almond hidden in the traditional Christmas porridge in Scandinavia.
00:39:17
rondestroyerofleaves
Hmm.
00:39:18
Chris
That's got to be a hell of an uptick there. You're eating porridge and all of a sudden you hit an almond.
00:39:21
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:39:23
Chris
Yeah, huh.
00:39:23
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:39:27
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, and I see pictures of the sheds and boy.
00:39:32
Chris
Oh, oh, they posted pictures.
00:39:32
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm even less impressed. Yeah.
00:39:34
Chris
Oh yeah, it was, it was, yeah, I was <unk> dancing with the devil.
00:39:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:42
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:44
Chris
Yeah, it originally started as a one day event, went then stretched to three and then seven.
00:39:53
Chris
Do you know why it starts on the 17th?
00:39:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, I do not.
00:39:59
Chris
It's, we are both of this sign.
00:40:02
rondestroyerofleaves
Capricorn?
00:40:03
Chris
Yeah, it's the first day of Capricorn. House, the house of Saturn and the planet named for the god.
00:40:08
rondestroyerofleaves
Huh.
00:40:10
Chris
Yep.
00:40:11
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't think I'm Capricorn anymore.
00:40:12
Chris
Yeah. Really?
00:40:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Didn't that change?
00:40:16
Chris
I don't think so.
00:40:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:22
rondestroyerofleaves
Uh...
00:40:23
Chris
Yeah, December 17th was the first day yeah endowed with various meanings by both ancient and modern scholars. The widespread use of wax candles could refer to the returning of power of the sun's light after the solstice.
00:40:41
rondestroyerofleaves
I thought they added one.
00:40:41
Chris
yeah They might have.
00:40:43
rondestroyerofleaves
Didn't they add one, recently?
00:40:50
Chris
Oh, and guess who extended it from three to seven days?
00:40:54
rondestroyerofleaves
Ooh!
00:40:57
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, Domitian.
00:41:01
Chris
Huh?
00:41:03
rondestroyerofleaves
There's an Emperor, Domitian.
00:41:05
Chris
Caligula.
00:41:06
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh.
00:41:07
Chris
Yeah. No, you're still definitely a Capricorn. December 22nd through January 19th.
00:41:15
rondestroyerofleaves
but they did add one right I can't say that word oh Fucus December oh now it was it's great yeah I don't know this is all fake bullshit
00:41:20
Chris
I'm not.
00:41:29
Chris
feet
00:41:38
Chris
Yeah, yeah, as yeah as we go along and try to.
00:41:40
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, because now I'm just Sagittarius.
00:41:42
Chris
Really?
00:41:42
rondestroyerofleaves
Sagittarius is December 18th or January 20th now.
00:41:45
Chris
What now?
00:41:47
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, Capricorn is 21st of October 16th.
00:41:51
Chris
That, no. I'm a Capricorn in my heart, dammit. Yeah. Yeah, Ophiakus is the 13th. Yeah, the serpent bear. Ooh. In Steven Schmidt suggested a 14-sign zodiac that also included Cetus.
00:42:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Hm.
00:42:17
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm still a Capricorn in my heart.
00:42:18
Chris
Huh. Yeah, it's, yeah.
00:42:24
Chris
Yeah, that's, yeah, I don't like that. Sagittarius, stupid. Isn't Sagittarius the centaur archer thing?
00:42:33
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I think so.
00:42:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:42:36
rondestroyerofleaves
It's pretty cool, better than Fish Man, but, you know, fish coat.
00:42:40
Chris
Yeah, with the sea goat.
00:42:42
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:42:45
Chris
Yeah, the remains sense, but whatever.
00:42:51
Chris
I'm looking forward to celebrating Saturnalia.
00:42:51
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, yes, that's all we can say is EO Saturnalia.
00:42:58
Chris
i And when I do it, I'm going to do the Buddy Jesus point.
00:43:04
rondestroyerofleaves
Nice.
00:43:05
Chris
Think of all the different ways I can offend my mother.
00:43:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, I'm ready and excited to hear about topic two because it was been eased.
00:43:14
Chris
All right.
00:43:17
Chris
Topic two.

Moving On from Destiny

00:43:19
Chris
So I i dropped this bomb on Whismurr a week ago, if that.
00:43:23
rondestroyerofleaves
See, I think so.
00:43:24
Chris
Yeah, and yeah, your reaction was actually very similar to my wife's reaction. So i ah I made the decision the other day and I uninstalled Destiny from my PlayStation after seven years.
00:43:43
Chris
It's it's gone.
00:43:44
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. ah
00:43:46
Chris
it's just It just felt like the right time.
00:43:50
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah nothing set you off no just just was time
00:43:55
Chris
Now, I mean, so the last like big expansion had the final shape this past spring or whatever. It was great. Good story. We got to see some old characters again. To me, it wrapped it all up. yeah yeah We beat the big bad of the time and all. And now, I mean, there's these little, oh, well, this might happen or this. It's like, yeah, but we kind of wrapped it up. I mean, just let it be until there's something else. But It just feels like they're trying to just stretch it out even more than they already were for seven years.
00:44:30
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I mean it's it does feel like you kind of want Bungie to put it behind them because otherwise they're not going to make anything new and exciting.
00:44:40
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, that's like um Naughty Dog. they The people who did Uncharted and Last of Us.
00:44:52
Chris
They're like, oh, we need another game like that. Their next game is like some sci-fi futuristic hack and slash kind of game. I'm like, cool. That's something totally different from them. How about it?
00:45:04
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, that's...
00:45:05
Chris
But Destiny has just been so much of the same. And like the grind for the the, you know, oh, I got to get the God roll gun and this and that.
00:45:09
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I mean the few times I've jumped back into it.
00:45:15
Chris
It's like there's so much of it that's just total random hope and fingers crossed. So.
00:45:27
Chris
Which I did get back into Call of Duty and their progression is a lot nicer because you're actually progressing each weapon or, you know, doing whatever and yeah.
00:45:39
rondestroyerofleaves
that yeah, it makes a lot of sense that the you know less painful of progression is more fun.
00:45:54
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:45:54
rondestroyerofleaves
you know i did that That was kind of my problem when I got back into Destiny is it's harder to jump in and out of that game now because the grind feels so terrible.
00:45:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:06
Chris
Right.
00:46:07
rondestroyerofleaves
you know
00:46:07
Chris
Yeah, I think the whole like the power level and everything like that, it's like, just make everybody even and make some guns a little bit stronger or some a little bit weaker, but they shoot faster.
00:46:20
Chris
You know, there's there's ways around that. You know, then, oh, it's been two months. All the weapons that you have now, they're underpowered and you got to get everything up and another 10 points.
00:46:33
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:46:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:35
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. And it, well, as someone who played destiny one and destiny two and got through it all and got like to the max, it was, it felt very disheartening to like grind up your gear and then find out, Oh no, you come back in six months, your gear's completely junk.
00:46:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:52
rondestroyerofleaves
You have to just start from scratch.
00:46:54
Chris
Yeah. Yep.
00:46:54
rondestroyerofleaves
You know, it felt like, well, what what was all the progression that I did for?
00:47:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:00
rondestroyerofleaves
you know And answer was there wasn't.
00:47:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:03
Chris
Right.
00:47:03
rondestroyerofleaves
It wasn't for anything.
00:47:04
Chris
Well, that and, you know. You could be somebody, you know, like, you know, I had hundreds of hours into that game. And then somebody hops on and they're, you know, first round placer or through whatever they get, you know, this epic gun or whatever.
00:47:22
Chris
It's like, how the hell is that fair?
00:47:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. Yeah.
00:47:25
Chris
So.
00:47:26
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:31
rondestroyerofleaves
I always have this like, I want to play a game, like the destiny or Diablo or wow, where I'm building towards something.
00:47:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:39
rondestroyerofleaves
And then I always realize like, you're not really building anything meaningful.
00:47:40
Chris
Right.
00:47:42
Chris
Now.
00:47:43
rondestroyerofleaves
So I'd rather just enjoy the game.
00:47:46
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:46
rondestroyerofleaves
And again, as soon as it gets to the point where I'm not enjoying the game, I'm just grinding, I'm out.
00:47:47
Chris
Which.
00:47:50
Chris
Yeah. Yep. Have you seen Path of Exile 2?
00:47:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Which is
00:47:55
rondestroyerofleaves
I've been hearing things, but I haven't seen it yet.
00:47:58
Chris
I haven't seen it, but yeah, I played the first one a little bit, but I jumped into it way late, and yeah, it was past it, but yeah evidently it's like, I don't know, some of the people I've heard, they're like, oh yeah, it's a lot more engaging than Diablo because you are building towards something, and yeah, so you might try it.
00:48:17
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I mean, I've heard good things.
00:48:18
Chris
But no, right now it's early access, so yeah.
00:48:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. Yeah. I've just seen people talking about it. I haven't really looked too far into it.
00:48:25
Chris
Yep.
00:48:26
rondestroyerofleaves
But you know, it does.
00:48:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:30
rondestroyerofleaves
I just sometimes I don't want to play a video game to feel like a weakling.
00:48:36
Chris
right yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah i saw that yeah yeah yeah i was like do i reinstall balder's gate maybe yeah which side tangent uh larian has a thing right now it's uh
00:48:37
rondestroyerofleaves
you Like, I want to jump it in and like, Oh, I'm doing kick ass stuff. And I mean, they just put a whole borders gate. patch out with a whole bunch of new classes and I have to go through that. Yeah.
00:48:57
rondestroyerofleaves
I mean, eventually, right.
00:49:06
Chris
Advent.Larian.com and starting today the 13th for the next 12 days, every day there's like a little puzzle or something to do and you get like a little video or a thank you or something from it.
00:49:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, that's nice.
00:49:21
Chris
That company just keeps giving back.
00:49:23
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. They're doing a good job.
00:49:27
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:29
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, I personally did playing games that have no progression, or it's like cosmetic progression only that I don't care about, you know.
00:49:33
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

New Gaming Adventures

00:49:39
rondestroyerofleaves
I did play through the new BattleTech, the clans, MacWarrior clans.
00:49:45
Chris
Okay.
00:49:46
rondestroyerofleaves
It was fun. It was a little more on rails than the other one has been.
00:49:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:50
Chris
Really? Hmm.
00:49:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it was it's very much like a short campaign you just have to go through.
00:49:56
Chris
Gotcha.
00:49:57
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't know if they're going to flesh it out more, but it was fun. If you like MacWarrior and you want to play clan stuff, it's got the stuff you want.
00:50:00
Chris
Hmm. Yeah.
00:50:08
rondestroyerofleaves
be playing that and the I just landed an aliens cent it's called it's
00:50:14
Chris
ah but I think that, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
00:50:18
rondestroyerofleaves
like an XCOM game with aliens aliens dark descent yeah but I haven't
00:50:23
Chris
Dark Descent. Is that the one? Where is it? I just downloaded something the other day.
00:50:31
Chris
No, no, no, not that. Oh, God, don't do that phone.
00:50:37
rondestroyerofleaves
Even started it so I can't do statement-snake.
00:50:42
Chris
Why is... or this app so tricky at times so ah there it is plus um yeah alien stark descent i just yeah it was free this month for sony so it's oh so it's like an excom game command a squad of hardened colonial marines to stop a terrifying xenomorph outbreak on the moon left
00:50:55
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. Yeah, it was on game passives. That's what I was told, is like an XCOM game with aliens kind of thing.
00:51:09
Chris
Your soldier's real-time combat against iconic xenomorphs. You're the commander, they are your weapon. Dispatching orders strategically and intuitively at the touch of a button. Your foes will adapt to your tactics. Fortune your paths. Selection of different classes. Man, this does sound fun.
00:51:29
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. I mean, I just haven't had time to sit down and do it. That's the problem.
00:51:34
Chris
Yeah. Five starting marine classes, dozens of specializations, unique weapons, and abilities.
00:51:43
rondestroyerofleaves
I think it's one of those things where, you know, your guy dies dead kind of deal.
00:51:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:51:48
rondestroyerofleaves
Which, you know, always fun.
00:51:48
Chris
That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, add stakes to it.
00:51:52
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:51:54
Chris
Yeah.

Soccer Team Frustrations

00:51:55
Chris
Which side tangent to stakes? There is a semi-professional soccer team, football, whatever you want to call it. um And their name is the Salisbury steaks.
00:52:12
rondestroyerofleaves
What town of Salisbury do they play in?
00:52:15
Chris
Well, they actually play in Fruitland at Crown.
00:52:21
Chris
But they're the Salisbury as in steak like you would eat. S-T-A-K.
00:52:24
rondestroyerofleaves
Well.
00:52:26
rondestroyerofleaves
Sure, but they don't play in Salisbury.
00:52:30
rondestroyerofleaves
This angers me.
00:52:34
rondestroyerofleaves
I'm less angry to buy the steak part and more angry by the fact that they don't play in Salisbury.
00:52:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:41
rondestroyerofleaves
Hmm.
00:52:42
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:44
rondestroyerofleaves
Seems like a weird name for a team. Like it doesn't really invoke like, you know, like the thing you get in a microwavable dinner.
00:52:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:50
Chris
Fear.
00:52:57
rondestroyerofleaves
It's not scary.
00:52:57
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Does anybody like Salisbury steak?
00:53:04
rondestroyerofleaves
Apparently my brother does.
00:53:06
Chris
Really?
00:53:07
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. That's what he told me the other day was that he makes a mean Salisbury steak and he likes it. And I said, that sounds gross.
00:53:13
Chris
you ah I don't know if anybody who has that, you know, I make a mean Salsbury steak.
00:53:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Right. You make, uh, yeah, I think so.
00:53:22
Chris
Because isn't it just like a hamburger patty with gravy?
00:53:27
Chris
Yeah. I just know them from TV dinners and they looked awful.
00:53:30
rondestroyerofleaves
It's like, like onions, right? There's like onions involved.
00:53:36
Chris
Salsbury steak. Salsbury steak is a dish made from ground beef and other ingredients, considered variation of the Hamburg steak. It's named after Dr. James Salisbury, a Civil War physician who believed that a diet high in beef protein would be good for health.
00:53:57
Chris
Yeah, it's made by holding the beef together with egg and breadcrumbs and then searing it and braising the patties in gravy. Yeah, and there's like mushrooms and onions. and Most of these pictures have like onions and mushrooms on them.
00:54:10
rondestroyerofleaves
It doesn't even look good in the picture that they're showing it to look good in.
00:54:11
Chris
Oh, oh, I was about to say this one picture looks like they're dipping a turd out. Oh.
00:54:21
Chris
Well, I mean, the place we went to today for lunch, one of their hot menu items was liver and onions.
00:54:29
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh god, really?
00:54:31
Chris
Yes, they had it on the menu, like right at the top.
00:54:35
rondestroyerofleaves
There, nope.
00:54:38
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:40
rondestroyerofleaves
Now I'm trying to say, oh, he's from New York.
00:54:41
Chris
I don't.
00:54:43
rondestroyerofleaves
It's not from Salisbury, Maryland. How, oh man, I would, your career as a physician known for inventing the Salisbury steak.
00:54:48
Chris
Oh. Yeah. Yeah. oh Yeah. Hey doc, I got this. Uh, my ankle's been bothering me. Yeah. You need to eat more protein.
00:55:06
rondestroyerofleaves
He believed that vegetables and starchy foods produce poisonous substances in the digestive system, which were responsible for heart disease, tumors, mental illness, and tuberculosis.
00:55:14
Chris
Hmm.
00:55:15
rondestroyerofleaves
It's not very smart.
00:55:16
Chris
So he was the exact opposite of what the science says.
00:55:20
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:26
Chris
Sounds like John Wayne's personal doctor.
00:55:33
rondestroyerofleaves
He saw beef as a defense against many difficult physical problems and should be eaten three, salisbury steaks should be eaten three times a day with as much hot water to cleanse the diet. What?
00:55:48
Chris
ah Here, have the Salisbury steak and wash it down with some boiling water. Do you have any tea or coffee over there? not Just hot water?
00:55:59
rondestroyerofleaves
Just hot water and steak.
00:56:02
Chris
god ah ah just That makes my stomach hurt thinking about it.
00:56:09
rondestroyerofleaves
yeah that's wow this guy was a doctor did get a medical degree from Albany Medical College and a master's degree from Union College I've never heard of either of those colleges but
00:56:11
Chris
ah
00:56:16
Chris
ah We've come a long way. Yeah, but was he really a doctor or was he that age as doctor? Actually. Huh.
00:56:33
Chris
Yeah. Hmm. They were probably like the online colleges of that day.
00:56:44
rondestroyerofleaves
Union College is the first institution of higher learning chartered by the New York State Board of Regents. It's the mother of fraternities as three of the earliest Greek lawyer societies were established there.
00:56:58
Chris
Wow. Okay.
00:57:01
rondestroyerofleaves
It is gross.
00:57:01
Chris
Hmm. But still, the sauceberry steak's gross. Yeah.
00:57:06
rondestroyerofleaves
2,000 people go to that school.
00:57:12
Chris
ah It's barely bigger than Mardella High School.
00:57:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, what the heck.
00:57:17
Chris
Uh.
00:57:19
rondestroyerofleaves
Insane.
00:57:20
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:24
Chris
So ah yeah, yeah, I'm out of destiny. i It time. I got the platinum. I did all the things in it that I wanted to do in it. Yeah. I guess you you mean you hit the nail on the head. It just wasn't fun anymore. So why keep playing through it?
00:57:45
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, that's the problem. was Once it's no longer fun. And you had your fun, right?
00:57:48
Chris
Oh, yeah, tons of fun.
00:57:49
rondestroyerofleaves
There's no... You can definitely walk away from things and go, I had fun.
00:57:51
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:54
rondestroyerofleaves
I don't need more out of this.
00:57:54
Chris
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:57:57
rondestroyerofleaves
I think that's a problem with ah the way games are run now, as people are like, expecting more out of it.
00:58:00
Chris
Oh.
00:58:03
Chris
Yeah, they expect every game to just be, you know, every game's got to be a 10 out of 10. I got news for you.
00:58:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Mm-hmm.
00:58:11
Chris
I've had a lot of fun with games that are like six out of 10s.
00:58:14
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, and I've had fun out of games that are 10 out of 10s, but only last for You know, I got 12 to 14 hours out of them But I got a good 10 to 12 14 hours of 10 at 10 time But they're just not gonna serve to sort so be around for forever
00:58:22
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:58:25
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, yeah, yeah. That'd be like saying, yeah, I spent, you know, $20 on this movie. It should entertain me 24 seven. It's like, that's not how that works.
00:58:41
rondestroyerofleaves
Just so you know, the Albany Medical College does not list Dr. Salisbury as one of its notable alumni.
00:58:48
Chris
Really? What a slap in the face to the Salisbury family.
00:58:49
rondestroyerofleaves
No.
00:58:53
rondestroyerofleaves
That's... Yeah.
00:58:55
Chris
Hmm.
00:58:56
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it feels like they've got an agenda against him.
00:59:00
Chris
Yeah, I mean, you would think he would be listed. They would like serve that every Saturday or something.
00:59:05
rondestroyerofleaves
Salisbury stick to it. Oh, nope. He is down way on the list. Here he is.
00:59:08
Chris
Way down on the list.
00:59:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah.
00:59:12
rondestroyerofleaves
I mean, these other people are like invented the disposable catheter, you know, microbiologists that prove disease is transmitted from the insects. And then this guy invented the Salisbury steak.
00:59:24
Chris
And this guy said, beef good, vegetables bad.
00:59:30
Chris
ah ah Kids, this semester we're going to study the teachings of Dr. Salisbury. All this semester you'll learn things you'll never use again.
00:59:43
rondestroyerofleaves
how I'm like deep on a deep dive of all these doctors. Dr. David Nalen, who discovered oral rehydration therapy, which is the country that was saving 50 million lives from diarrhea across the world.
00:59:55
Chris
hu
00:59:57
rondestroyerofleaves
Landsat and UNICEF certified oral rehydration therapy as one of the most important medical advances of the 20th century.
00:59:57
Chris
Is that like Gatorade?
01:00:06
rondestroyerofleaves
Oh, now you're looking to that.
01:00:08
Chris
Oryl rehydration.
01:00:12
rondestroyerofleaves
ah Basically, it's water with modest amounts of sugar, salt, specifically sodium and potassium.
01:00:16
Chris
Yeah, so it's, yeah.
01:00:18
rondestroyerofleaves
It can also be given by a nasogastric tube, includes the use of zinc supplements to reduce the duration of diarrhea in infants and children.
01:00:26
rondestroyerofleaves
It has been estimated to reduce the risk of decrease the risk of death from diarrhea by up to 93%
01:00:33
Chris
Wow. So when you get the diarrhea from eating all the Salisbury steak, you take the oral rehydration therapy.
01:00:39
rondestroyerofleaves
This guy fixed- That's probably why he invented it. He was like, I'm tired of people dying of this Salisbury steak diet.
01:00:42
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:47
Chris
ah god ah Definitely not something I'll be cooking over the holidays.
01:00:54
rondestroyerofleaves
and Absolutely not. None of my side are merely a feast.
01:00:57
Chris
Yeah. You're going to have a nice Yule log.
01:01:00
rondestroyerofleaves
If you eat enough Salisbury steak, you will.
01:01:03
Chris
Ugh. Ta-da.
01:01:05
rondestroyerofleaves
and
01:01:05
Chris
Done.
01:01:08
Chris
Yodel log cake.
01:01:15
Chris
yeah Isn't it yeah don't they just isn't a sheet cake that they just roll up and then paint like a log?
01:01:21
rondestroyerofleaves
Yes, I think so.
01:01:23
Chris
Yeah, so it's like a giant ho-ho. Or yodel.
01:01:26
rondestroyerofleaves
But worse.
01:01:28
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That much is just too much. now
01:01:31
rondestroyerofleaves
Yeah, it's too much cake, not enough yodel.
01:01:35
rondestroyerofleaves
Too much yodel, not enough del.
01:01:37
Chris
Wait, the, you know, so is that, you know, from you Saturnalia. See, comes, comes around.
01:01:44
rondestroyerofleaves
that's There you go.
01:01:48
Chris
Oh, my family's gonna be so disappointed in me.
01:01:53
Chris
yeah
01:01:56
Chris
Yes, we have the airing of grievances.
01:02:00
rondestroyerofleaves
Do you put up the traditional poll?
01:02:07
Chris
I'm going to put the poll up Monday at work.
01:02:08
rondestroyerofleaves
Good.
01:02:09
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:10
rondestroyerofleaves
Good.
01:02:11
Chris
Yeah. I've got my stupid physical in the morning. And then when I get back, the polls going up.
01:02:15
rondestroyerofleaves
Nice.
01:02:16
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Which I just remembered I left my physical paperwork at work.
01:02:22
rondestroyerofleaves
Eh, what's up, I work.
01:02:22
Chris
So I'll stop by there and grab it.
01:02:25
rondestroyerofleaves
That sucks.
01:02:27
Chris
ah Yeah. So well, I hope ah
01:02:29
rondestroyerofleaves
If only we could just electronically send it.
01:02:32
Chris
he Yeah. Yeah. You would think.
01:02:36
rondestroyerofleaves
You would think.
01:02:36
Chris
But no. yeah
01:02:40
rondestroyerofleaves
Well, I hope everybody has a good Saturnalia. Greet everyone with the traditional yo or Saturnalia.
01:02:43
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:46
Chris
EO.
01:02:50
Chris
Oh, gosh, this is going to be so much fun.
01:02:52
rondestroyerofleaves
It's going to be great.
01:02:54
Chris
Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Join us on the Discord and follow us on Twitter.
01:02:57
rondestroyerofleaves
Yep. And follow us on X blue sky, uh, whatever. See how true at 22 stay warm, stay dry.
01:03:03
Chris
Yeah. Yep. And yeah have a good time, folks.