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Fire and EMS is the best job
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Welcome back! This week we rigamaroll right into a long chat about Fire and EMS stuff. As always please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Transcript
Introduction and Delays
00:00:10
Chris
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe Podcast. I'm Chris.
00:00:13
whenisspring
And I'm a confused... Did it delay on rear end too, or is it just my end?
00:00:16
Chris
It did, yes, the intro delayed just a bit. God,
00:00:19
whenisspring
I was just there going, what the heck?
Stories of Hauntings and Unusual Encounters
00:00:24
Chris
what was it the other day?
00:00:24
whenisspring
Yeah, it's fun.
00:00:26
Chris
I was walking across the engine bay and I was like, do you guys smell like burnt plastic? And they were all like, no. i was like, cool, it's that stroke I've been waiting for. and and they all just kind of looked at me like, to hell? Yeah.
00:00:38
whenisspring
Well, it's coming out to station one where you hear random chiming noises all day.
00:00:42
Chris
um No.
00:00:42
whenisspring
There's a ding dong every once a while. It sounds like cops are driving by.
00:00:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:00:47
whenisspring
thought it was a ghost, but we think it's, we think we appease the spirits and it's not a ghost.
00:00:49
Chris
Duh.
00:00:52
Chris
You appease the spirits?
00:00:53
whenisspring
Yeah, we think.
00:00:54
Chris
How'd you do that?
00:00:56
whenisspring
Incense and sage and, you know, sacrifice one of the new kids.
00:00:58
Chris
Okay.
00:01:01
Chris
Yeah. One of the CTE students that came over. Yeah.
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whenisspring
Yeah.
00:01:07
whenisspring
How's your high school experience going? Yeah.
00:01:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:10
whenisspring
Yeah. yeah
00:01:12
Chris
what's like, I went for a meeting the other night at the U S kennels building. It's on progress circle, like back behind the Holly center. And I mean, you if you know how you can get into that building. So I just pop the door open. I'm in there and the lights are off every day. I've turned the light on and sit there. And one of the guys that like runs U S kennels, he comes in he's like, Oh, you got yourself in. i was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, man, you're brave.
00:01:37
Chris
It's like, what do you mean? he was like, dude, this place is so haunted. I can't believe you're sitting here by yourself. i was like, what, what, what? Yeah.
00:01:47
whenisspring
Nice.
00:01:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:49
whenisspring
Of all the people.
00:01:49
Chris
yeah I was like, yeah. i was like, well, I'm never coming here by myself again. God. That's like, as we were leaving, the light switch is like way in there. was like, oh God, I got like, i was like,
00:02:02
Chris
yeah They were like, Chris, you get the lights? I was like, ah I'm already up here. i does Somebody else has to get the lights. I get ah
00:02:11
Chris
yeah i don't know. The light's not going to stop the ghost. The ghost is going to still come.
00:02:16
whenisspring
I mean, i go by the simple rule of it can't, I can't see it. you can't see me.
00:02:23
Chris
Yeah, man, that's what it is.
00:02:25
whenisspring
Yeah. buts That's, that's how I live, by words to live by.
00:02:29
Chris
Gosh. Yeah, just... i looked at the guy that was like, you son of a bitch. Why would you, why would you tell me that? So yeah. Yeah. We'll see it on like the security cameras all the time. There's like, you know, shapes that move and sometimes the lights will like flare up and then drift down.
00:02:45
Chris
I'm like,
Home and Fire Station Maintenance Issues
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Chris
ah, ah, great.
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whenisspring
ah
00:02:49
Chris
Great.
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whenisspring
Fun facts.
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Chris
Yeah.
00:02:51
whenisspring
Fun facts to know about my first two.
00:02:53
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. If you get an AFA or something, yeah, definitely send, yeah. Send Meg.
00:03:00
whenisspring
You guys go in, I'm gonna stay out here and wait for the screams.
00:03:05
Chris
Yeah. Hold on. I'm lighting my sage. Golly day. He's sending in a wreck for that. ah Station one needs more sage.
00:03:14
whenisspring
Yeah, we've been burning through our sage. We can go there a lot.
00:03:19
whenisspring
We also need salt.
00:03:19
Chris
But you know, ah you know, they would order it.
00:03:22
whenisspring
Oh my god. Not only is this what we were talking about. They wouldn't just order sage. They'd be like, oh, this is imported Turkish sage.
00:03:28
Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
They climb mountains.
00:03:32
Chris
Yeah. ah This is special. It's a homegrown by McKean tear.
00:03:38
whenisspring
Yeah.
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Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
It's actually called Fire Department Screw You Sage. Oh, okay.
00:03:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:44
whenisspring
Okay.
00:03:45
Chris
yeah That's weird. But that's the best.
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whenisspring
It's got to be the best.
00:03:50
Chris
Yeah. Golly day. Well, kind of similar to ghosts. My one dog had a exorcist moment last night. Evidently vomited all over my daughter's room.
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whenisspring
Oh, no.
00:04:04
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. This morning she came down.
00:04:06
whenisspring
Oh.
00:04:07
Chris
She's like, my room stinks and it's covered in vomit. I was like, cool. Have fun cleaning that up.
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whenisspring
Time to be an adult. Clean the room.
00:04:18
Chris
Yeah. Well, I will say she gathered up all the linen and got most of it up. And then I went in there and used the carpet cleaner. Yeah.
00:04:30
whenisspring
Yeah, that sucks.
00:04:30
Chris
She's currently and filling her bookcase so we can redo part of her room
00:04:37
whenisspring
Hmm.
Weather Mishaps and Station Preparations
00:04:38
Chris
yeah yeah that's the fun yeah uh yeah yeah yeah we're talking about redoing the entire downstairs in like hardwood or something or laminate
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whenisspring
Hmm.
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whenisspring
It's no bueno.
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whenisspring
Dogs and carpet. It's not good mix.
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whenisspring
Never will be.
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whenisspring
Yeah, I want to strip my hardwood, but it's such a pain in the butt.
00:05:02
Chris
It is. it is. Like when there's giant Sanders and.
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whenisspring
It's like, yeah, it's like, well, you got to move out of your house for a ah week, you know, everything. Because mine's all one grain of hardwood, so you got to basically do it all at once.
00:05:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
Rent a pod, move everything out of your house.
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Chris
Live in the pod. Yeah,
00:05:21
whenisspring
Live in the pod. Well, yeah, we'll live in the RV next to the pod.
00:05:25
Chris
yeah that's true.
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whenisspring
We'll be pod people.
00:05:28
Chris
Pod people.
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whenisspring
Yeah.
00:05:31
Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
Maybe do it when it's not 12 degrees outside.
00:05:32
Chris
Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's really a good idea.
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whenisspring
Yeah.
00:05:37
Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
Which seemingly will never be warm again.
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Chris
Yeah.
00:05:41
Chris
Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I mean, well, we just had Snowmageddon Part 3.
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whenisspring
You guys did.
00:05:48
Chris
No, we didn't. No, we didn't.
00:05:50
whenisspring
Here's what I'm going to
00:05:51
Chris
It snowed. It looked beautiful overnight. It was that light, fluffy snow. so everything had a, you know, beautiful view to it. The next morning, there was a lovely sheen of ice under everything because the maniacs here spray the streets with brine so it ices everything underneath. Yeah.
00:06:08
whenisspring
Here's what I say. I left my house. I left even early to go to work yesterday because I was under the impression I was going into the frozen Hoth hellscape and I'm driving along and I'm like, huh, no snow in Dover.
00:06:14
Chris
Yeah.
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Chris
Yeah. i heard
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whenisspring
Huh, no snow in Harrington. Huh, there's no snow in Seaford. Huh, I'm in Laurel. There's still no snow. ah I'm hitting Delmar and there's no snow.
00:06:38
whenisspring
where is this snow that I've been hearing about? And all those things. I hit the Salisbury line. i'm like, I think that's some snow. What is, is that frost?
00:06:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:47
whenisspring
i
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Chris
yeah yeah
00:06:52
whenisspring
I get to work and there's extra people in the station. They're like, we're here for the snowstorm.
00:06:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:55
whenisspring
And I'm like, what is going on?
00:06:59
Chris
yeah yeah yeah
00:07:01
whenisspring
What?
00:07:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:02
whenisspring
but
00:07:02
Chris
Non-existent snow. Yeah. We'll over staff. Hey, they say there's going to be this big concert. Everywhere they go, there's usually like fights and all this. We don't need to up staff.
00:07:12
whenisspring
Oh, hurricane's about to hit the town.
00:07:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:07:16
whenisspring
I think we'll hold off on extra staff, guys.
00:07:18
Chris
yeah yeah
00:07:19
whenisspring
Okay. Yeah. I mean, look, I'm all about it because we've had snowstorms where we get like eight inches and yeah, it's nice to have extra people for those events.
00:07:28
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:07:32
whenisspring
But no snow?
00:07:34
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:07:36
whenisspring
Two days after no snow?
00:07:38
Chris
Hmm.
00:07:39
whenisspring
Yeah. Yeah. Crazy.
00:07:42
Chris
I was the lunatic because I was like, oh, four people we we're going to put one extra person on each ambulance now why would we do that we'll put them into utility and have them run around everywhere i was like but if you put them on the ambulance they can like shovel and stuff while the crew's taking care of the patient and then help with loading and stuff and be with them at all times but okay okay
00:08:04
whenisspring
i got in the I got in the engine yesterday Donnie looks at me and says, do we still need the shovel in the back here? I said, I think we can take the shovel out of the engine. I think we'll be okay.
00:08:14
Chris
You took the shovel out without asking?
00:08:17
whenisspring
Yeah, I made an executive decision as a lieutenant.
00:08:23
Chris
gosh.
00:08:24
whenisspring
I said, they trust me with a million dollar piece of equipment and to run a firehouse all day.
00:08:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:28
whenisspring
I think I can make a decision about a shovel.
00:08:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:32
whenisspring
I don't even know where that shovel is.
00:08:32
Chris
that's but It's a special shovel.
00:08:34
whenisspring
I can't make decisions as to throw away junk.
00:08:37
Chris
Yeah.
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whenisspring
But I can take the shit out of the engine.
00:08:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:08:42
whenisspring
We currently have a broken chair sitting by the door. And I said, can we throw the chair away? i don't know.
00:08:48
Chris
What do you mean you don't know?
00:08:49
whenisspring
It's broken. Throw it the fuck away.
00:08:51
Chris
Throw it away. Oh
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whenisspring
What are we doing?
00:08:54
Chris
oh my gosh.
00:08:57
whenisspring
We replaced the gas power...
00:08:58
Chris
What do they think? The elves are going to come
Fire Station Upgrades and Equipment Discussions
00:09:00
Chris
over at night and fix the chair?
00:09:00
whenisspring
fact but And look, it was a sergeant. I get it. you don't want to make the decision. like I understand. You don't want to not your station. I come into work and the parts of the chair are on the desk.
00:09:15
whenisspring
And I said, what are we doing? Well, those are the so parts of the chair. Are we going to fix said parts? Are we going to weld them back together? what Throw them the fuck away? Yeah.
00:09:28
whenisspring
it's The gas f freaking and blower for the station. We replace with electric blower, battery-powered blower.
00:09:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:35
whenisspring
Okay, take the old one out. I don't know if we can really do that.
00:09:39
Chris
What?
00:09:40
whenisspring
we have a We have this battery-powered one.
00:09:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:43
whenisspring
The old one can go away. Give it to the city yard. I'm sure they they need leaf blowers.
00:09:49
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Have at it.
00:09:53
whenisspring
Have at it. We don't need it.
00:09:56
Chris
yeah
00:09:56
whenisspring
Get it out here. Well, we could, you know, why don't we just stick it the annex for a few years and then we'll throw it away.
00:10:02
Chris
Oh my gosh. We always joke about it, but yeah, firefighters yeah want and hate change so much.
00:10:06
whenisspring
say
00:10:11
whenisspring
They want to take the door off the kitchen, the the little door that goes to the closet in the kitchen, because they're going to put a whiteboard up for training and they're going to take the board down when they do the kitchen remodel we're going to find a better place for the board.
00:10:16
Chris
Okay.
00:10:23
whenisspring
I said, can we take the so door off now? I said, yep, and throw the door away. I think we should take the door and put it in the annex.
00:10:32
whenisspring
<unk> We're getting rid of the door. We don't. But what if somebody needs the door? Who needs a door?
00:10:40
Chris
What if somebody needs the door? oh my god.
00:10:42
whenisspring
to Do you need a door? Take it home. I don't care. I'm sure that the city doesn't need us to surplus a door.
00:10:51
Chris
oh my god.
00:10:52
whenisspring
Send it uptown and use it for training. I don't care.
00:10:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:55
whenisspring
Don't leave it here.
00:10:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:57
whenisspring
That seems like a big decision. It's not.
00:11:01
Chris
Seems like a big decision.
00:11:01
whenisspring
Let's get rid of the door. Get rid of the door. It's insane. It's like the pack rats are... You have to fight them all the time.
00:11:15
Chris
Oh, the door. that's That's a good one.
00:11:17
whenisspring
The door that we're already all planning to get rid of.
00:11:20
Chris
Yeah, yeah. was saying the plans, that door is not there.
00:11:22
whenisspring
that That door's going away, right? Yeah, that door's going away.
00:11:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:26
whenisspring
Get rid of the door.
00:11:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:29
whenisspring
In fact, we'll probably save 50 bucks off the demo if we get of the door now.
00:11:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:11:33
whenisspring
Because we're probably paying the guy 50 bucks to take a door off.
00:11:33
Chris
yeah
00:11:36
Chris
yeah
00:11:36
whenisspring
He's just going to throw it in a dumpster.
00:11:38
Chris
yeah
00:11:41
Chris
Well, think about what you know you can repurpose all those
Gaming and Lifestyle Discussions
00:11:44
Chris
cabinets for. And
00:11:47
whenisspring
If I had my way, those guys would get busted up with an a halogen bar.
00:11:51
Chris
yeah, I fully expect that demo is yeah know just like office space.
00:11:52
whenisspring
so Yeah.
00:11:59
Chris
I mean, let each shift take out some frustrations.
00:12:03
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:12:03
Chris
Yeah, yeah. That's your little rage room for day. ah day
00:12:08
whenisspring
Someone had a a very good point because they were talking about, we don't want to have, we don't want to get the cabinets from station two. And we're like, yeah, the cabinets we got here that have lasted 20 years. Let's just get a new set of those.
00:12:20
whenisspring
Oh yeah, that's a pretty good plan. Just get regular cabinets.
00:12:26
Chris
yeah
00:12:28
whenisspring
Hell, you could probably reface the cabinets we have and we wouldn't even know.
00:12:32
Chris
Yeah, that's true.
00:12:33
whenisspring
Don't tell anybody.
00:12:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:38
whenisspring
Except for the ones that are all moldy. Let's get rid of those ones.
00:12:40
Chris
Yeah. but Yes. Let's get rid of those. Yeah. but the other ones, they're specific for fire departments, so they're better.
00:12:47
whenisspring
yeah Yeah, that's why we've had her twice now?
00:12:48
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:53
whenisspring
ah Five years?
00:12:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:57
whenisspring
If I bought cabinets...
00:12:58
Chris
I could have, I could have handmade those cabinets.
00:13:01
whenisspring
Yeah?
00:13:02
Chris
For a lot cheaper than what we spent on them.
00:13:05
whenisspring
Yeah?
00:13:05
Chris
As somebody who made. Five cabinet. Or four cabinets. And a set of drawers. Yeah. it's It's not rocket science.
00:13:14
whenisspring
If I bought a set of cabinets from a company and in five years I had to replace said cabinets because they were peeling and falling apart... I wouldn't be paying for shit.
00:13:25
Chris
Right.
00:13:25
whenisspring
And I sure as I wouldn't be buying more product from said company.
00:13:29
Chris
No. No. Well, they worked the kinks out of it.
00:13:35
whenisspring
Meekintire cabinets. Meekintire.
00:13:37
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like the hose that we got. The Mercedes or whatever.
00:13:42
whenisspring
Oh, yeah.
00:13:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:44
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:13:46
Chris
What was wrong with the old fire hose? Nothing? Cool. So we replaced it all? Yep. All right.
00:13:54
whenisspring
Worse than that.
00:13:54
Chris
Hmm.
00:13:56
whenisspring
Because when it happened, I said, this hose is better, right? Well, no, it's the same.
00:14:04
Chris
yeah yeah
00:14:05
whenisspring
is it It's got less friction, right? It's got something cool. Well, the couplings are gold. And they they put scotch tape on them, scotch bright on them, so you can see them.
00:14:16
Chris
yeah yeah yeah i thought that was like part of the gimmick was it was supposed like less friction loss and yeah no no it's not
00:14:19
whenisspring
Cool. Cool. Cool.
00:14:27
whenisspring
Yeah, I don't think that's true. Yeah. I think the gimmick was, hey sucker, fire department.
00:14:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:37
whenisspring
But this stuff is strange.
00:14:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:38
whenisspring
It looks cool when you pack it.
00:14:41
Chris
Yeah. Because little kids, when they see a fire truck going down the street, the first thing you do is look at the couplings.
00:14:49
whenisspring
ah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:51
whenisspring
Well, you're judged by other fire departments on the internet if your host are completely perfect.
00:14:54
Chris
Hmm.
00:14:57
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:14:58
whenisspring
I see that all the time I go, you know what that tells me? You don't fight fires.
00:15:02
Chris
Right. Yeah, yeah, that five inch has never been pulled.
00:15:06
whenisspring
Right. That's what that tells me.
00:15:08
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:15
Chris
Well, I've been playing any good games.
00:15:18
whenisspring
Well, good is a subjective statement.
00:15:19
Chris
Uh oh.
00:15:23
Chris
Yes.
00:15:24
whenisspring
Sid Meier's Civ 7 came out.
00:15:26
Chris
Oh, how's that been?
00:15:30
whenisspring
It's a journey.
00:15:31
Chris
oh no.
00:15:31
whenisspring
It's a journey. it's I had this conversation with my brother. It's my brother. Who I never saw play a Civ game until like three months ago. Is apparently the world's greatest Civ fan.
00:15:45
whenisspring
But whatever.
00:15:45
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got a, yeah, he he runs the Reddit page for it.
00:15:49
whenisspring
Right. But I said, you know, Civ 6. As we played it three months ago or two months ago. Was... seven years of development like add-ons and dlc and game so the game was refined over that time he's like well i don't understand why the new one's not like that i'm like i think that's just how they make this game they play base game that they want to build off of and you just kind of have to enjoy the suck for the first iteration it's not terrible i don't want to say it's terrible because it's not it's got it's new
00:16:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:20
Chris
Hmm. Yeah.
00:16:29
whenisspring
In good ways, bad ways, just ways.
00:16:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:31
whenisspring
It's just new.
00:16:32
Chris
You start out as Archimedes.
00:16:32
whenisspring
and
00:16:35
whenisspring
No. but it's i i don't know if you've ever played Civ, but like they've added ages and reset the game.
00:16:40
Chris
It's been a while. Hmm.
00:16:42
whenisspring
I mean, it's a whole a whole new take on the game, which is kind of refreshing. And I was like, if you want to play Civ 6, they didn't turn off Civ 6.
00:16:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:51
Chris
Right.
00:16:51
whenisspring
You could still play that. Hell, could play Civ 1 if you want.
00:16:53
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:55
whenisspring
you know you gotta find something to run it on but so it's been interesting and i have i know that it's right i guess well that guy got laid off by trump so yeah yeah poor guy but i would say it's going to be good and and it's fun now but i think it will be better
00:17:01
Chris
It'll run on a Zune.
00:17:07
Chris
Oh, poor guy. Fred, we miss you.
00:17:13
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:16
Chris
OK. Yeah.
00:17:22
whenisspring
I've been sneezing like maniac today. i don't know. Something in my house.
00:17:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:28
whenisspring
yeah
00:17:30
Chris
It's the woman.
00:17:31
whenisspring
I think it might be.
00:17:32
Chris
She sprayed something around the house.
00:17:34
whenisspring
Yeah. Something.
00:17:35
Chris
She probably did. Damn. She's devious like that.
00:17:38
whenisspring
Yeah. Speaking spraying.
00:17:40
Chris
It's the long con.
00:17:41
whenisspring
Two people. Two people. have One. I went to the sauna at the gym the other day. And some dude spraying some shit in the sauna. Because he likes the smell of it.
00:17:52
Chris
What?
00:17:52
whenisspring
Like, this is a shared space. This is not your frickin' personal sauna.
00:17:55
Chris
Yeah. right
00:17:56
whenisspring
I don't like the smell of your Axe body spray or whatever the fuck this is
00:17:57
Chris
No.
00:17:59
Chris
What? a Did you punch him in his mouth?
00:18:03
whenisspring
I wanted to. so sweaty, though. I don't want to get knuckles sweaty.
00:18:06
Chris
the Yeah.
00:18:07
whenisspring
But then, i got I've been taking this yoga class because I'm trying to challenge myself with yoga. And she walks around with a spray bottle and spraying the room with some scent.
00:18:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:19
whenisspring
And I'm like, it doesn't smell very
00:18:20
Chris
petly
00:18:20
whenisspring
I don't think it smells very good. She, as I'm going there Thursday, she sprays it, takes a step forward.
00:18:22
Chris
yeah
00:18:26
whenisspring
It gets in her face. She's like, I'm like, well, why are you spraying this then?
00:18:30
Chris
ah That's instant karma.
00:18:33
whenisspring
Right. Stop doing that.
00:18:35
Chris
ah
00:18:35
whenisspring
You're in a shared space. You don't know if someone's allergic to whatever is in that crap.
00:18:40
Chris
Right.
00:18:41
whenisspring
Stop doing that.
00:18:43
Chris
It's probably like her distilled urine or something.
00:18:45
whenisspring
ah
00:18:48
whenisspring
I hope not.
00:18:51
Chris
Everybody leaves. She rings out the yoga mats and then puts it in a diffuser.
00:18:56
whenisspring
That's why I bring my own mat.
00:18:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:58
whenisspring
yeah ah so It's just crazy.
00:18:59
Chris
Hmm.
00:19:00
whenisspring
like You're in a shared space.
00:19:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:02
whenisspring
Don't bring your whatever the fuck that is.
00:19:02
Chris
Right. Yeah. but That's like all the people who smoke weed in public now.
00:19:10
whenisspring
Yeah. Yeah. Well, now you can't say anything to them, right? because it's their right.
00:19:15
Chris
No, it's not.
00:19:16
whenisspring
No. The reason we got rid a cigarette, it wasn't because it was unhealthy. It's just because we couldn't stain it anymore.
00:19:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:22
whenisspring
It smelled so terrible.
00:19:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:23
whenisspring
I don't care if you guys give yourselves emphysema. I just don't want myself to have to smell it.
00:19:28
Chris
Right.
00:19:29
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:19:29
Chris
yeah And as somebody who used to smoke, I smell somebody now. I'm like, oh, my God, how did I ever do that?
00:19:35
whenisspring
Yeah. It's pretty bad.
00:19:37
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And then marijuana, it's such a oh skunk nasty. Like the other day, I was like, did I step into all crap? Nope. Oh, that's you. Yeah.
00:19:46
whenisspring
you you don't You literally don't know if you've hit a skunk on the road anymore.
00:19:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:51
whenisspring
Until you see the guy driving 12 miles an hour and you're like, didn't hit a skunk.
00:19:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:55
whenisspring
Found that guy.
00:19:56
Chris
yeah
00:20:02
whenisspring
Oh, God. I've done something to my hip.
00:20:03
Chris
Where was it we... Oh no.
00:20:07
Chris
We went somewhere the other day and the entire store smelled like weed.
00:20:12
whenisspring
Oh, it's everywhere where you go anymore.
00:20:14
Chris
So it was obviously the employees were just out back hotboxing before we got in there.
00:20:22
whenisspring
We take our walks in the morning. Someone at 6.40 in the morning in my neighborhood is getting blazed. It's like, good lord, dude.
00:20:29
Chris
The old wake and bake.
00:20:32
whenisspring
I thought you guys woke up at like noon. What's going on here?
00:20:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:36
Chris
but He's got to get up and go work on the roads.
00:20:42
whenisspring
Yeah, it's probably a 911 dispatcher or something.
00:20:45
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:48
whenisspring
Hmm.
00:20:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:50
whenisspring
Yeah, I don't care that you're smoking it.
00:20:51
Chris
you
00:20:51
whenisspring
I just don't want to smell it. Do edibles or something. I don't care.
00:20:55
Chris
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
First Aid Kits and Firefighter Gear
00:20:57
Chris
Because yeah the smoking, its it's not good for you.
00:21:01
whenisspring
yeah
00:21:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:02
whenisspring
Every one of them that makes that argument. Well, it's not as bad as cigarettes.
00:21:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:07
whenisspring
Okay.
00:21:07
Chris
It's worse because it's not filtered.
00:21:09
whenisspring
Well, it's also better and worse. It's not good.
00:21:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:14
whenisspring
like And then it's the next argument. Well, it's as bad as alcohol. Still not a good argument.
00:21:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:20
whenisspring
Getting bit by a rattlesnake is bad. Getting bit by a cobra, much worse. Still both suck. Don't do either. I don't know what to tell you.
00:21:28
Chris
Oh God. that I have never thought of that analogy before. That is awesome.
00:21:33
whenisspring
It's an asinine argument that they make all the time.
00:21:36
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:21:39
whenisspring
Putting hot gas into your lungs is bad for your lungs. I don't care what you do.
00:21:47
whenisspring
Insane.
00:21:55
whenisspring
It's the world we live in.
00:21:56
Chris
um rattlesnake cobra which is your poison and yeah yeah
00:22:00
whenisspring
Yeah, they're still both very bad. Well, and i' not poison, but yeah.
00:22:04
Chris
yeah
00:22:07
whenisspring
Yeah, I was like,
00:22:07
Chris
Yeah, because poison you ingest, venom is injected, right?
00:22:11
whenisspring
Yes.
00:22:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:12
whenisspring
If you eat a poisonous frog, that's a poison. But if you get bit by a venomous snake, it's venomous.
00:22:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:18
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:22:19
whenisspring
Yeah, because I teach those first aid sleep yard classes to the Girl Scouts, and always they ask about snake bites, and I'm like, here's what i' tell you. Get to the hospital.
00:22:30
whenisspring
I don't know what to tell you. The answers are no good.
00:22:33
Chris
Yeah, now they're worthless.
00:22:33
whenisspring
Well, what about snake bite kits? Now, suck poison? Don't do it.
00:22:36
Chris
Mm. Yes, yes. Remember they used to say you would cut between the two and then suck the venom blood out?
00:22:39
whenisspring
Just
00:22:41
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:22:44
whenisspring
Yeah. i Remember they had the little, the old school snake bite kit, which was like a little suction cup that you were supposed to pull out.
00:22:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:51
whenisspring
And then you were supposed to tourniquet the leg. I said, by the time you get a tourniquet out, the venom is at your heart.
00:22:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:56
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:22:56
whenisspring
Do you know how fast blood moves around your body?
00:22:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:59
whenisspring
You aren't that fast.
00:23:03
Chris
unless you have the tourniquets already on your both legs you're like on done ah yeah
00:23:07
whenisspring
Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to work.
00:23:15
whenisspring
I had to have the fight again with one of the one of my who my person my friend who is the person who hooks me up all these Girl Scout troops to teach class. She's like, you keep teaching these girls about tourniquets.
00:23:24
Chris
yeah yeah what what
00:23:26
whenisspring
I'm like, yes, because tourniquets are first aid. You shouldn't be teaching people tourniquets. Yes, you should.
00:23:32
Chris
Yes. yeah Everybody should know how to use a tourniquet.
00:23:34
whenisspring
Everybody should know how to do that. No, it's a last resort thing.
00:23:37
Chris
No, it's not.
00:23:38
whenisspring
Nope. It's a first resort because if you think about it, last resort means it's too late.
00:23:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:49
whenisspring
I really, really need to turn the water off in my house because it's flooding. I may put a sponge against the faucet.
00:23:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:57
whenisspring
Or I could turn this valve off.
00:23:57
Chris
ah youre There are all of these analogies you're coming up with today.
00:24:00
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:24:01
Chris
This is awesome.
00:24:03
whenisspring
And I'm like, and then I said, what do you do for a living? Well, I'm a math teacher. What do I do for a living? Well, you're a firefighter paramedic.
00:24:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:13
whenisspring
Which one of us is more qualified to talk about tourniquets?
00:24:19
whenisspring
They get really mad when I have to go off on band-aids. Because band-aids are not for first aid.
00:24:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:25
whenisspring
Band-aids are for comfort.
00:24:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:29
Chris
Your body makes its own bad bandage. That's a thing. Keep it clean. That's all you got to do.
00:24:37
whenisspring
yeah they i I even helped them build kits.
00:24:39
Chris
Band-Aids are good. Like if you get a blister, or you put the band-aid, you know, there.
00:24:43
whenisspring
But Moleskine's better, right?
00:24:44
Chris
Well, yes, it is.
00:24:45
whenisspring
You just carry Moleskine.
00:24:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:47
whenisspring
I said, here's the problem. Band-Aids aren't sterile.
00:24:51
Chris
Right.
00:24:51
whenisspring
They're not kept in very good packaging.
00:24:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:24:54
whenisspring
They're expensive.
00:24:55
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:24:56
whenisspring
They are slightly waterproof, so you get a little bonus on that.
00:25:01
whenisspring
But gauze keeps things clean. It's cheap as hell.
00:25:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:04
whenisspring
You can keep it sterile.
00:25:06
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:25:06
whenisspring
It's meant to be sterile.
00:25:08
Chris
And you can just tape it in place.
00:25:08
whenisspring
Just carry it. And you just tape it in place. and then you have a band-aid that's better.
00:25:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:12
whenisspring
Just do that. Oh, but band-aids. The girls like the band-aids. I understand that their pink Barbie band-aid helps them feel better.
00:25:17
Chris
na
00:25:20
whenisspring
And if you want to carry that for that reason, great. Not first date.
00:25:22
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:25
whenisspring
like like I did finally get him to buy a decent first aid kit this year because we got done the class and the scout leader's like, what about this first aid kit? I'm like, I mean, I wouldn't pay as much as you're paying for it, but it's actually got tourniquets and, you know, gauze and, you know, it's a good kit.
00:25:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:44
whenisspring
And we're buying them. I said, okay, go for it. You should have a decent first aid kit you're going to take other people's children places.
00:25:51
Chris
yeah
00:25:54
Chris
Yeah. See, when I helped the scout troop, I was like, I will build you a first aid kit. And it was the same thing.
00:26:05
Chris
Do we need... Oh, this has burn gel in it. And it has gel in it. And it has itch gel. I was like, no, those are garbage.
00:26:13
whenisspring
Throw all those away. Yep. I said, if you...
00:26:17
Chris
We get you just some hydrocortisone and antibiotic cream, done.
00:26:22
whenisspring
I don't even do that. I don't put anything in a estate kit that expires. Because you don't look at them.
00:26:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:29
whenisspring
You know, I said, you should probably have some of those things in your car.
00:26:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:33
whenisspring
Like, and I said, just buy some Lana cane spray and be done with it.
00:26:37
Chris
Oh yeah.
00:26:39
whenisspring
Right? Don't mess with any body sprays because... You're going to get cleaned up hopefully somewhere.
00:26:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:46
whenisspring
Right. You know.
00:26:47
Chris
No, you're supposed to rub the dirt in with the ointment.
00:26:50
whenisspring
Right. Yeah. And burn jellies.
00:26:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:26:53
whenisspring
We had a whole conversation this last class because the girls are getting older now. And I was like, let's talk about treating burns.
00:26:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:00
whenisspring
And I was like, I can tell you that everything you've ever heard about and everything I've ever heard about burns is wrong because every three years they change what we're supposed to do about it.
00:27:05
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:08
Chris
Yep.
00:27:09
whenisspring
And here's what I'm going to you. Make sure they're not burning anymore. Keep it covered.
00:27:13
Chris
Yep.
00:27:14
whenisspring
Get it to the hospital.
00:27:14
Chris
Yep. take a Brillo plat pad and clean it.
00:27:18
whenisspring
Do not do that.
00:27:20
Chris
yeah That's what the hospital's going to do.
00:27:20
whenisspring
that walk yeah and They're going to do that, and it's going to suck.
00:27:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:28
whenisspring
because If you look at the AHA burn thing, i'm like they're like, drown it in burn jelly. i'm like Don't do that.
00:27:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:34
whenisspring
Don't buy special burn plaids.
00:27:35
Chris
Hmm.
00:27:37
whenisspring
Just...
00:27:38
Chris
Oh yeah, I had one of my friends she was like I'm go to get one of these ah fire blankets for my kitchen. i was like, no, you're not. No, you're The commercial it immediately puts it out. i was like, no, it temporarily smothers it.
00:27:58
Chris
And you have to get very close to said fire to put said blanket on the correct way. We fire hot. You're reaching over fire.
00:28:07
whenisspring
Firebat.
00:28:08
Chris
Very hot.
00:28:09
whenisspring
Yeah, Frankenstein's monster showed us this one. Firebat.
00:28:11
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. was like, just get a small kitchen extinguisher if you're that worried about it. So I don't need a blanket.
00:28:18
whenisspring
We...
00:28:19
Chris
No, no, no.
00:28:20
whenisspring
We pretty much perfected what you need to put out a kitchen fire about 40 years ago.
00:28:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:26
whenisspring
I mean, i don't want to, like, stoke their ego, but Kitty Fire Extinguishers for Kitchens pretty much got that covered.
00:28:31
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:34
whenisspring
Whatever you see... Don't buy it.
00:28:37
Chris
yeah
00:28:39
whenisspring
Yes, all of those things in theory work. They don't work as well as a signature.
00:28:41
Chris
or Right. Yeah.
00:28:45
whenisspring
I remember when I was a kid, my dad's firehouse, they would actually set up cooking fires and have people put them out and teach them how to do it.
00:28:51
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:56
whenisspring
always I always thought that was such a great thing to do.
00:28:56
Chris
That's awesome.
00:28:58
Chris
Yeah.
00:28:58
whenisspring
And I feel like now you can't do it because somebody's going to get hurt. You know?
00:29:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:03
whenisspring
because they would literally just light panes on fire.
00:29:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:05
whenisspring
Maybe that's just something we should just do.
00:29:06
Chris
yeah
00:29:07
whenisspring
Don't let them do it. We'll just go up there and put the... fine you know
00:29:10
Chris
Do like the office, you lock them in, see how they react.
00:29:13
whenisspring
Right.
00:29:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:14
whenisspring
But, you know... they might i could i have memories of my dad's firehouse like they had a table outside and they would have like you know i don't know if you guys do it down there but but we have there's always like the neighborhood festival like the church has a festival like the carnival or whatever like your fireman's carnival or stuff but it was ah always at the church and um so we just go there they go there and they there's the fire department and showing you how to put a king fire out it's literally just a guy going lid fire out
00:29:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:31
Chris
yeah yeah
00:29:37
Chris
yeah
00:29:41
Chris
down. Yeah.
00:29:44
whenisspring
Oh, fire on burner. Salt. Fire out.
00:29:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:29:49
whenisspring
Yeah, know i thought
00:29:49
Chris
You should pitch this to the fire marshal's office. He'd be all about it.
00:29:52
whenisspring
yeah I mean, I think it's a good idea.
00:29:54
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:57
Chris
But I mean, we'd have to buy a special pan and lid and hot plate to put it on. And yeah. Yeah. Well, and we better buy two just in case.
00:30:05
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:30:10
whenisspring
Yeah. Yeah. um
00:30:12
Chris
I mean, do we use canola oil? Or I mean, we should probably use grapeseed oil.
00:30:15
whenisspring
I'm sure i'm sure from hearing this conversation, someone over the internet is gonna be like, well, I have a company that we sell gas-fed kitchen fire demonstration kits.
00:30:23
Chris
Yep.
00:30:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:29
whenisspring
And you can get a grant because it's only $7.2 million. Yeah.
00:30:33
Chris
Yeah. God, we're getting... Yeah, Salisbury's going to get something in the mail next week. ah I think we should get this.
00:30:38
whenisspring
yeah
00:30:40
whenisspring
Chair of Assistant Chief Twillie.
00:30:41
Chris
Oh.
00:30:43
Chris
Yeah, God. see it in the mail. Son of a bitch, how'd they figure it out?
00:30:49
whenisspring
yeah uh i'm sure and if it says fire department it's seven times more expensive than it would ever be instead just going to the dollar store and buying a dollar store pan and some freaking you know lighter fluid and oil
00:30:50
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:30:56
Chris
Oh, God. Yeah, try it. right Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Trying to explain that to somebody the other day. i was like, they were like, oh, yeah. so yeah They say these pens are great for paramedics. I'm like, no, just go buy a regular pen.
00:31:14
whenisspring
no they're not
00:31:14
Chris
Why? i was like, because those pens are worse and because they put paramedic on it or EMT, they're twice the cost at least.
00:31:22
whenisspring
Do you know what the best pen for a paramedic is? A free pen.
00:31:26
Chris
Yes.
00:31:26
whenisspring
Do you know how many pens I lose on a shift?
00:31:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:31
whenisspring
I never, I don't know what I do. I don't know how I do it. I never have a, I always put a pen in my pocket in the morning.
00:31:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:39
whenisspring
There's always a pen. If you check my uniform at 7.01, there is a pen. 7.06, find a pen. by seven oh six i cannot find a pen
00:31:48
Chris
God, when we finally sell Engine 1, they're going to like open up the floorboard and there's going to be like 80 pens.
00:31:53
whenisspring
Oh, well, whenever we tilt the engine for to check the the oil, you just hear...
00:31:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:00
Chris
Or up in the rafters, there's some squirrel with this giant freaking pen castle that they've built.
00:32:00
whenisspring
Looks like a...
00:32:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:08
whenisspring
Because... but And I went to Staples and I bought... You know, they had, like, the big bucket O-Pen.
00:32:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:15
whenisspring
This is like cheapo pens for, you know, $7. seven dollars but You know, of course I told everybody on my show. was like, hey, you need a pen, go my locker, grab a pen.
00:32:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:23
whenisspring
There's only red left, by the way.
00:32:27
whenisspring
But I went through that whole bucket in like six months.
00:32:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:30
whenisspring
Where do these pens go?
00:32:32
Chris
Yeah. I don't know.
00:32:33
whenisspring
and I wash three pens a month.
00:32:37
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. That's always bad.
00:32:38
whenisspring
Conservably. Conservably wash three pens a month.
00:32:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:42
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:32:42
Chris
Yeah. Honestly, if you want a good pen, ask waitstaff what they use. Those are good pens.
00:32:49
whenisspring
No, it's whatever's free. That's for me because I'm going to lose it.
00:32:50
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. but That's the thing. Yeah. When you like sign your credit card, you know, when you're leaving your tip, like yeah this writes pretty well.
00:33:00
whenisspring
Yeah. Yeah. My wife always buys like nice fancy like Dr. Gel pens. She's like, oh, and this is my favorite pen.
00:33:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:09
whenisspring
And I'm like, yeah, whatever pen is in my hand is that my favorite pen.
00:33:10
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:12
whenisspring
And immediately when I put it down, that pen is lost.
00:33:15
Chris
yeah Yeah.
00:33:16
whenisspring
I've never seen that pen before, and I'll never see it again. It's a good run.
00:33:19
Chris
ah It was a good run, Penn. was a good run.
00:33:22
whenisspring
Look, you signed four page pay stubs. You're great. We're done with you.
00:33:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:26
whenisspring
i don't know what...
00:33:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:28
whenisspring
It's insane.
00:33:29
Chris
Yeah. Why is Whisper walking around all day with a pen in his hand? He found one he liked and he doesn't want to set it down.
00:33:35
whenisspring
I should... to my radio strap, I should get one of those bank chains with pen.
00:33:36
Chris
Oh my God.
00:33:40
Chris
Oh, yes.
00:33:42
whenisspring
But I should only get like a three inch one so it's never like, can never sign anything.
00:33:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:46
whenisspring
It's always like, God damn it.
00:33:47
Chris
You're like lean down with your little T-Rex arms to sign.
00:33:51
whenisspring
Yeah. Yeah, I should do that.
00:33:55
Chris
Yeah, but that's another thing. There's somebody listening right now saying, we could add a pen holder to the radio straps.
00:34:00
whenisspring
A detachable tactical pen holder.
00:34:02
Chris
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:03
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:34:05
Chris
Not only does it retract, but it also magnetizes in.
00:34:09
whenisspring
Yeah, only for...
00:34:10
Chris
And put a little light on it so you can turn that on to sign in the dark.
00:34:14
whenisspring
only for $99.99 would this pen be yours.
00:34:14
Chris
Oh, man.
00:34:17
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's just the pen and the yeah that's not that's the pen.
00:34:21
whenisspring
Oh, so but pen's not included. That's the holder for the pen.
00:34:23
Chris
Yeah, that's the holder. And you also have to buy the strap. And you have to buy the pens.
00:34:26
whenisspring
Whoa.
00:34:27
Chris
And there's special pens that fit in this strap. But guess what?
00:34:30
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:34:30
Chris
They don't sell them. It's their cousin's company down the road that sells those.
00:34:33
whenisspring
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:34:35
Chris
a
00:34:35
whenisspring
Oh, the tactical pens.
00:34:36
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're jet black.
00:34:42
whenisspring
Tactical radio straps. My radio strap's going to fall apart one day, and that's what the day I will replace it.
00:34:48
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah, my radio strap is one 20... Yeah, 22 years old.
00:34:57
whenisspring
Oh, mine's eight because my other radio strap fell apart.
00:35:00
Chris
Oh, I have like linseed oiled and done such care to keep this thing running.
00:35:06
whenisspring
Oh, I...
00:35:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:07
whenisspring
finally got the point where the duct tape was more than the that leather and I said okay
00:35:07
Chris
Oh, if I... but Yeah. Well, and I'm also an admin now, so I don't use my radio strap as much.
00:35:16
whenisspring
fair and I said uh fucking funeral pen uh radio strap you've had a good run you know it was just literally duct tape I don't but I'm not a guy who's like gonna out and buy $7,000 radio strap because I'm just like it's a piece of leather that goes into fires I don't care what it looks like
00:35:17
Chris
But, yeah.
00:35:23
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:35:25
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. yeah no
00:35:35
Chris
Yeah. yeah Now, will say my radio pouch, I am on my second one of those.
00:35:42
whenisspring
yeah, because the snaps always break.
00:35:42
Chris
The strap. No, see, my strap has held up.
00:35:46
whenisspring
Really?
00:35:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:47
whenisspring
Yeah,
00:35:48
Chris
Because I've, like, yeah, oiled it and cared for it.
00:35:52
whenisspring
and my snap always breaks. It's better now because I have my own radio and I don't have switch my radio out every f freaking day.
00:35:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:57
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:35:59
whenisspring
Because that's what you're pulling that snap 38 times over shift.
00:36:03
Chris
so Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:06
Chris
Yep.
00:36:06
whenisspring
yeah You get a bad shift back in the day, you have to switch your radio three times.
00:36:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:09
whenisspring
know That piece is out of service. but yeah That piece is broken. okay
00:36:13
Chris
yep
00:36:15
whenisspring
yeah
00:36:17
whenisspring
I don't buy any their crap. That's all it is. all crap. They just sell crap to firemen.
00:36:22
Chris
yeah Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:36:25
whenisspring
And then they convince each other that that's the best crap they can get.
00:36:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:30
whenisspring
here's here's Here's my tip to all future firefighters. Carry a shitty screwdriver that costs a dollar. Go buy a shitty knife.
00:36:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:42
whenisspring
maybe Maybe spend $10 on a knife.
00:36:44
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:36:46
whenisspring
Get a decent flashlight, then take care of your decent flashlight. Everything else should be disposable.
00:36:51
Chris
Oh, God, flashlights. I used to get the ah cheapo ones from the dollar store. You just tuck in the webbing in your helmet.
00:36:57
whenisspring
Oh, I still keep this.
00:36:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:59
whenisspring
yeah like i the i think i'm the only one in the fire department well me and probably meg are the only ones in the fire department who wear those things and i don't know why nobody wears them they're the greatest flashlights in the world
00:37:05
Chris
Really? Yeah.
00:37:10
Chris
They are, and they're so easy.
00:37:10
whenisspring
yeah
00:37:11
Chris
You just slide your hand up and it's on.
00:37:14
whenisspring
yeah and when it runs out you throw it away i've got a whole stack of my i bought a case of them because they were like 10 for 24 them
00:37:17
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:22
whenisspring
twenty four of them
00:37:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:24
whenisspring
And I was like, ha so whatever, this will last my whole career.
00:37:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:27
whenisspring
Yeah, I don't know. what And we were at a training one day. And Meg's like, holy crap, wisdomzard you I can see you from across the building. I'm like, that's the point of the flashlight.
00:37:38
Chris
Yes.
00:37:39
whenisspring
That flashlight doesn't let me see shit. That's for other people to see me.
00:37:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:37:45
whenisspring
I said, you got to buy a $3,000 box light that you drag behind your ass.
00:37:49
Chris
Oh my gosh. Or you have the little light that clips onto your radio strap. Have you seen those?
00:37:56
whenisspring
I have seen those.
00:37:57
Chris
but They even have them that blink. I'm like, come on, you're not the fire truck going down there. What do you turn that on when you're walking in the building and go wee woo?
00:38:05
whenisspring
Half the time I forget to turn my flashlight on until I go, oh shit, yeah.
00:38:05
Chris
yeah
00:38:07
whenisspring
turn
00:38:08
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:08
whenisspring
You know? i sets i And I don't buy rechargeable flashlights because they never work when you need them to.
00:38:12
Chris
i
00:38:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:17
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:38:17
Chris
Yeah. i When I was operations I always try to keep myself as streamlined as possible. I didn't want a bunch of bulky stuff.
00:38:27
whenisspring
There seems to be two cults in the sal Salisbury Fire Department.
00:38:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:31
whenisspring
One of them believes in 17 extra bags, and the other one's a bunch of firefighters.
00:38:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:37
whenisspring
I don't know.
00:38:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:37
whenisspring
I'm not trying to say anything.
00:38:41
Chris
yeah
00:38:42
whenisspring
But they carry so much extra shit, and I'm like, I've been doing this longer than you guys have been alive, and I don't carry half this crap.
00:38:49
Chris
yeah
00:38:49
whenisspring
What are you doing?
00:38:51
Chris
Yeah, I had a, like you said, a crappy Phillips head and flathead screwdriver, a pair of pliers. Yeah, everything else pretty much was at the job.
00:38:58
whenisspring
Yeah, I'd like to carry... I have a shove knife, a small ah crowbar.
00:39:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:06
whenisspring
I have a i I used to carry... I have right now a multi screwdriver that I'm going to throw away and get a shit because it's got rusted. so i'm just going to go back to two shitty two drivers.
00:39:12
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:16
whenisspring
And a knife.
00:39:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:19
whenisspring
And a... Oh, and an old gift card.
00:39:21
Chris
Yeah. Oh yeah. I always keep old gift cards.
00:39:24
whenisspring
And then I have a piece of webbing. Two carabiners.
00:39:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:28
whenisspring
and gloves and slay for glasses. That's it.
00:39:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:31
whenisspring
That's all I carry.
00:39:31
Chris
yeah Yeah. I would instead, well, I would carry lineman pliers because they had like that wedge on the one end you could pie or you could hammer with them.
00:39:37
whenisspring
Oh, I do have a pair of Dykes.
00:39:40
Chris
It really, everything in one.
00:39:42
whenisspring
I do have a pair of Dykes in my one pocket for cutting car cables and stuff.
00:39:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:47
whenisspring
But I buy them Harbor Freight for $5.
00:39:47
Chris
But yeah, it's exactly.
00:39:49
whenisspring
just... don't...
00:39:50
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:53
whenisspring
And... i i don't and I have this conversation with people and I'm like, i don't know what where you guys
Fire Department Careers and Generational Differences
00:40:01
whenisspring
hear this. is You have to carry 70 pounds of crap because you're already wearing 70 pounds of crap and you weigh 120 pounds.
00:40:04
Chris
Yeah. Right.
00:40:08
whenisspring
What are you doing?
00:40:10
Chris
Yeah. I always loved when the guys that got the but they the last chance belts and they wore as their uniform, I was like, oh, so you're going to repel out in your duty uniform.
00:40:16
whenisspring
Yeah, I have one of those.
00:40:23
whenisspring
No, I'm never going to use it. I wear it because i hate our belts.
00:40:28
Chris
Oh. Oh.
00:40:31
whenisspring
I have never understood the Maryland belt. It's insane to me. It doesn't even look nice. I don't get it.
00:40:40
Chris
No. No.
00:40:41
whenisspring
it It never... but Maybe it's a great notepad.
00:40:43
Chris
It was a great notepad.
00:40:45
whenisspring
It has so much shit on the inside of it.
00:40:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:40:48
whenisspring
But you can never get it tight enough. It never, you know, and as you're like losing weight or gaining weight you got adjust it. And it's a pain in the ass.
00:40:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:40:57
whenisspring
So I just don't wear it.
00:41:00
whenisspring
I don't wear it. That's my secret. I don't wear the last chance belt because I'm expecting to repel from my belt. I wear it because they told me I could wear a last chance belt and I didn't have to wear the stupid Maryland belt.
00:41:10
Chris
Yeah, I can appreciate that.
00:41:12
whenisspring
Yeah. Because it does... i don't... i I guess... I know it looks... It's got an aesthetic to it, but it is the most impractical belt.
00:41:19
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's a giant square or rectangle.
00:41:23
whenisspring
It is...
00:41:26
Chris
Yeah. Like if you're squat ah you know scrunched over and all, it's like digging into your gut or in your pelvis.
00:41:31
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:41:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:32
whenisspring
And it... You actually have to have, like, a class on here's how you put this belt on.
00:41:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:37
whenisspring
Like, they just, when I, you know, I'm sure like same thing when you got hired, they just hand you this stupid belt you're like, I don't know what the, I've never seen this thing.
00:41:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:41:44
whenisspring
What are you talking about? Right?
00:41:45
Chris
Do I tie this in a, like a water bend or what?
00:41:50
whenisspring
And it's backwards. It's the only belt that's backwards.
00:41:52
Chris
Yeah. Yep. Well, I guess left-handed people that love it.
00:41:54
whenisspring
Like, I'm sure they do. Those weirdos.
00:41:57
Chris
Yeah. That's probably what it was. There was a quartermaster who was left-handed back in the day.
00:42:01
whenisspring
Right?
00:42:01
Chris
He's like, I'll show these sons of bitches.
00:42:02
whenisspring
ah I'll get every one of these bastards. Yeah. hate that belt. It looks nice in the... bit No, actually, it doesn't look nice in our uniform. Because you can't fucking see it.
00:42:12
Chris
no
00:42:14
whenisspring
Like, in a Class A uniform, you can't see the belt.
00:42:16
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:42:17
whenisspring
It's stupid. And I'm sure that belt costs...
00:42:21
Chris
Oh, my God.
00:42:23
whenisspring
$85. Perper.
00:42:24
Chris
Yes.
00:42:25
whenisspring
You know.
00:42:25
Chris
ah
00:42:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:42:28
whenisspring
Oh, man.
00:42:28
Chris
i
00:42:29
whenisspring
We've rambled far. That's just all the time. We've rambled far. Yeah.
00:42:33
Chris
Oh, yes, we have.
00:42:34
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:42:35
Chris
Yeah. Anybody still listening? God, we love you.
00:42:37
whenisspring
Sorry, we're just rambling. sorry
00:42:39
Chris
Those belts are $45 piece.
00:42:39
whenisspring
but
00:42:43
whenisspring
Is that the belt or just the buckle?
00:42:46
Chris
Uh, or, uh, no, I'm sorry. No, that's an inch and a half casual leather belt. Uh, let's look for, know, at Gaul's you can get it for a garrison belt for, three quarter inch. No, that's way too small.
00:43:01
Chris
No, no, no. We have to have this.
00:43:02
whenisspring
Ours are like Ewitz, right?
00:43:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:05
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:43:06
Chris
Oh, gosh. Ah, there it is. $69.99. sixty nine ninety
00:43:12
whenisspring
ah So I was one cent off.
00:43:15
Chris
yeah
00:43:15
whenisspring
There was $70. said there were $85, so I was $15 off.
00:43:17
Chris
Yeah. Yep. And that's just a belt. That's not the buckle.
00:43:21
whenisspring
That's insane.
00:43:22
Chris
Yeah, it is.
00:43:24
whenisspring
Insane.
00:43:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:43:26
whenisspring
For a not good belt.
00:43:26
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:32
Chris
Yeah, I'm definitely going to put in the show notes, fire department rant.
00:43:37
whenisspring
I think some people could appreciate us frantic with the fire department.
00:43:41
Chris
Oh, 100%. And there's also somebody out there saying, I carry 85 pounds of stuff in my gear.
00:43:43
whenisspring
I was home.
00:43:47
Chris
And look, good on you, man. But,
00:43:50
whenisspring
Yeah. Do you?
00:43:50
Chris
i
00:43:51
whenisspring
i just don't get it.
00:43:52
Chris
but yeah. If I could to drag your ass out, I'm not bringing that stuff.
00:43:54
whenisspring
You know...
00:43:57
whenisspring
Yeah. a I have this very large toolbox that I ride around in.
00:44:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:03
whenisspring
If it's not on there and I don't have it, then I'm in real trouble.
00:44:07
Chris
If it's not on there, then I'm going to call the rescue company.
00:44:09
whenisspring
Right. that There's somebody else I'm calling for. it
00:44:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:12
whenisspring
I don't know what you have in your little pouch that is going to fix that, replace that rescue truck, but I think I need the rescue truck.
00:44:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:19
whenisspring
Yeah.
00:44:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:21
whenisspring
I was telling ah my wife today, because but I basically browse Reddit as my only internet anymore.
00:44:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:29
whenisspring
And of course, you know, Reddit, even though I don't have an account, I just sp browse as a creeping stalker. um It's now recognized my phone and starts like, you curating me.
00:44:41
whenisspring
So I get like firefighting, firefighting stuff.
00:44:41
Chris
yeah
00:44:44
Chris
yeah
00:44:46
whenisspring
And I feel so disconnected from the firefighting community. It's on Reddit, I guess I should say, specifically on Reddit.
00:44:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:44:55
whenisspring
It's like, I'm five years on the job. I can't do this job anymore. It's terrible. It's doing this all to me. And, you know, I just don't see the perks of the job. And no one ever, and no one ever speaks up like, here's why the job's great.
00:45:07
Chris
Really?
00:45:08
whenisspring
And then it's, and it's never like, Hey, I'm a 20. No, nobody's comes on there and says, I'm a 20 year farm. And this is why the career is rewarding.
00:45:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:45:14
whenisspring
There are hard challenges to the career, but nobody's defending the career anymore. And it's like, Oh man, I don't know what, I think people need to hear the good side of the fire department, you know,
00:45:19
Chris
Hmm.
00:45:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:26
whenisspring
We're ranting, but not one of us has been like, fuck the fire department.
00:45:29
Chris
No.
00:45:30
whenisspring
you know It's it's heard different now. it's I guess that's part of being an old man.
00:45:35
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:45:37
whenisspring
know Being a dinosaur.
00:45:39
Chris
Yeah. guess, but man. Yeah. It's, yeah.
00:45:43
whenisspring
i see all these patterns.
00:45:44
Chris
It's, it's, it's the best job in the world.
00:45:47
whenisspring
It's the best job in the world. It will always be the best job in the world.
00:45:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:45:50
whenisspring
There's no more rewarding and disappointing
00:45:52
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:45:54
whenisspring
job at the same time right you'll never find that high and low in a job like this yeah
00:45:59
Chris
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think there's really many other jobs that have the highs and lows.
00:46:06
whenisspring
ah but the highs are so great and the lows are bad because you haven't learned to deal with the lows yet when you start to re-form how the lows act in your brain and you say oh i did the best and i did the thing the lows aren't as bad
00:46:08
Chris
Oh my gosh, yes.
00:46:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:46:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:24
whenisspring
you know Yeah, the sure.
00:46:24
Chris
Yeah, I mean, they still hurt. But, yeah.
00:46:27
whenisspring
100%.
00:46:28
Chris
But I mean, that's Because we're humans.
00:46:31
whenisspring
Some of you.
00:46:32
Chris
ah yeah. Yeah.
00:46:33
whenisspring
You know here people are, but you know
00:46:34
Chris
new
00:46:37
whenisspring
some of us are not. I keep going through these Reddit posts. I keep waiting for somebody like me to like jump in. I've got 20 years of the job. I've been doing this my entire life.
00:46:49
whenisspring
Let me tell you why it's great. Here's why.
00:46:50
Chris
yeah
00:46:51
whenisspring
and's like People are like, oh, the pay sucks. Yeah, the pay is not great. It's a middle, it's a not a middle-class job. It's a lower paying, kind of working class job, guys.
00:47:01
Chris
yeah
00:47:02
whenisspring
You know, but, it's so great.
00:47:04
Chris
i But nobody got into this job for the money.
00:47:07
whenisspring
That's what I told my wife today. I'm like, if you got into this, the fire department for money, I don't know what you were reading.
00:47:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:14
whenisspring
Like, what you thought was happening.
00:47:14
Chris
Or what you were smoking. Yeah.
00:47:17
whenisspring
It's not happening.
00:47:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:18
whenisspring
And, it's her job too. You know, she's a social worker.
00:47:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:21
whenisspring
If you don't love that job, you're not going to do it.
00:47:25
Chris
No. Yeah.
00:47:26
whenisspring
but You got to that job because you love it.
00:47:28
Chris
Right.
00:47:29
whenisspring
Everyone who's a firefighter loves being a firefighter, at least at one point was like, man, that seems like a cool-ass job.
00:47:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:36
whenisspring
And if you don't let it be a cool-ass job, it's not a cool-ass job anymore.
00:47:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:41
whenisspring
But you got to let it be cool.
00:47:41
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You can't. It's not the kind of job that you're like, I can just drudge through this for 20 years.
00:47:49
whenisspring
No, because it's it'll it will chew you up.
00:47:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:52
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:47:53
whenisspring
Because if you can't find the the thing that makes it cool, because the thing that makes it cool is the bad shit that happens.
00:47:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:02
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:48:03
whenisspring
It's terrible to say, but you know dope nobody's enjoying the day on the job at the fire department of doing nothing.
00:48:04
Chris
yeah
00:48:12
Chris
Well, yeah, yeah. Nobody working for the fire department has a good day unless somebody out there is having the worst day of their life.
00:48:21
whenisspring
Right. You know, you and I have both been medics in the field at a significant portion of our career.
00:48:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:28
whenisspring
Right.
00:48:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:29
whenisspring
You didn't have a good day as a paramedic. If you're like, well, I didn't do a single paramedic skill today. Right.
00:48:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:35
whenisspring
You weren't like, that was a great shift.
00:48:36
Chris
yeah
00:48:37
whenisspring
yeah that but Nobody enjoys those days.
00:48:40
Chris
yeah
00:48:41
whenisspring
you You enjoy catastrophic days, unfortunately.
00:48:45
Chris
Right.
00:48:45
whenisspring
You know, it's a
00:48:46
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because it's the humdrum stuff that gets to you.
00:48:50
whenisspring
Yes, that's always been my complaint. It's not.
00:48:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:53
whenisspring
The people that are killing the fire department, the EMS services specifically, are the people that are calling 911 for the bullshit.
00:48:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:00
whenisspring
We don't. Nobody, at least I would say, I'm going to speak for a majority of firemen I know, and EMTs, nobody is mad when they go on a cardiac arrest.
00:49:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:10
whenisspring
Nobody's mad when someone's got real difficulty breathing and really has chest pains.
00:49:10
Chris
yeah.
00:49:13
Chris
yeah yeah we yeah
00:49:14
whenisspring
we We went to school for that.
00:49:15
Chris
Yeah, somebody's got a raging STEMI. I'm like, all right.
00:49:17
whenisspring
Right. We went to school for that, right?
00:49:20
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:20
whenisspring
That's why we went to school.
00:49:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:22
whenisspring
What we didn't go to school for was I'm picking grandma up from the nursing home when there's staff watching me, right?
00:49:28
Chris
Right.
00:49:29
whenisspring
Nobody's, that's not, I've got, oh, you have a leg cramp and you're calling 911 at two o'clock in the morning.
00:49:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:37
whenisspring
You know, and went like yesterday and a a young man says to us, well, I called you guys because even though I was halfway to the hospital, I knew you guys would get me in faster.
00:49:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:48
whenisspring
but we didn't get in the job for that.
00:49:50
Chris
No.
00:49:50
whenisspring
ah Nobody went to school like, that's what I want to do.
00:49:50
Chris
No.
00:49:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:55
whenisspring
Right. Right. wi But nobody has ever, always, because people, you know, it's it's sad.
00:49:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:03
whenisspring
It's kind of humorously sad that people always apologize when it's their worst day.
00:50:10
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:50:10
whenisspring
Oh my God, I'm so sorry that you had to call you guys.
00:50:10
Chris
Right.
00:50:12
whenisspring
and you know I had to hate to bother you when I've had this raging STEMI.
00:50:12
Chris
Right.
00:50:17
whenisspring
Like, whoa, man, that's what we got it for.
00:50:17
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:19
whenisspring
That's what we're here for.
00:50:20
Chris
Yeah. Yes.
00:50:21
whenisspring
But when you call us for bullshit, you're like, eh, you guys are taxis, right?
00:50:21
Chris
Please. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:26
whenisspring
yeah No, no, we, the guy yesterday, his house could have caught fire. It didn't catch fire, right? Nobody was hurt. He was so, thank guys for being here so quickly. you like I'm so glad you guys got here. You know, I'm so sorry to bother you. Sir, you're not bothering us. We heard F1ST and we were fucking jumping for joy into the engine.
00:50:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:48
whenisspring
Like, Like nobody was like, oh man, we really have to go on this call?
00:50:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:52
whenisspring
You know, we were fucking, screw we were screaming down the highway fast as we could going, all right, we're going to pull this line. This is where, you know, we're doing our job.
00:50:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:51:00
whenisspring
We were happy. You know, we're not happy when we're going to IHOP at three o'clock in the morning for the 12th time because they they can't fix their alarm system.
00:51:08
Chris
yeah
00:51:08
whenisspring
You know, that's, that's the real truth of the job in my mind.
00:51:12
Chris
so yeah, absolutely. Okay. I mean, be like, you know, The CPA, yeah yeah and tax season and stuff like that, I'm sure they are like gung ho. That's their, you know, I love it.
00:51:28
Chris
And then, yeah, if somebody calls them up, it's like, can you help me balance my checkbook?
00:51:32
whenisspring
right sure sure yeah i mean i know that there are people who are in jobs that they don't like i get that i'm sure there are people in the fire department who don't like the job anymore and i feel very much sympathy for them because it's look it's a commitment that you're in right you've whether you're under a contract with your department or
00:51:32
Chris
I mean, um it it's got to be something similar. Yeah. But.
00:51:41
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:44
Chris
Right. yeah
00:51:50
Chris
It is.
00:51:56
whenisspring
Whatever it is, you've put a lot in to be where you're at.
00:52:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:00
whenisspring
you know yeah You've gone through lots of classes.
Paramedicine's Evolving Role
00:52:03
whenisspring
You did some sort of getting into some sort of physical fitness. You did a lot to get where you're at. And it it's hard to walk away.
00:52:10
Chris
yeah Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:52:12
whenisspring
you know And it's hard to be like, I'm just done.
00:52:15
Chris
Hmm.
00:52:16
whenisspring
If you literally can't find anything to enjoy the job anymore, it's time to go.
00:52:22
Chris
yeah
00:52:23
whenisspring
you on...
00:52:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:24
whenisspring
if you go on a STEMI and you're like, fuck this crap. I'm a paramedic.
00:52:29
Chris
ah
00:52:29
whenisspring
I don't want to go on STEMIs.
00:52:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:33
whenisspring
I can't help you. There is no help for you at that point.
00:52:36
Chris
yeah
00:52:36
whenisspring
Because, you know, because you're not going to be happy no matter what.
00:52:37
Chris
Yeah. Right. yeah No, you're not. And the way, you know, I always looked at it as, you know, it's people look at us as though we do have the best job in the world.
00:52:51
whenisspring
Yeah. They're jealous of us.
00:52:53
Chris
Because, yeah, I mean, well, I mean, rightfully so.
00:52:54
whenisspring
Cops are always jealous of us. ah Of course.
00:52:58
Chris
Yeah, if they got five more points right on the ah test, they would have been a fireman.
00:53:03
whenisspring
That's right.
00:53:04
Chris
But, ah yeah, I mean, who else shows up to somebody's house and people just trust you as a stranger with their loved one who is critically ill? I mean...
00:53:14
whenisspring
Not only that...
00:53:15
Chris
People don't even go to the ER. r you know When you get to the ER, r you can't always tell. They're like looking at the doctors and everything, but not the paramedics and the firefighters and all. They're like, here, we trust you.
00:53:25
whenisspring
they... they they not only trust you, they have hope that you're going to do something.
00:53:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:33
whenisspring
Right. Like the, they are more helpful that when they're in their worst moment and it could be, and I always say like, I don't even mind when I go to the busted pipes because that's their worst moment.
00:53:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:40
Chris
yeah
00:53:46
whenisspring
Right. Like I i get it.
00:53:46
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:49
whenisspring
We're here to help. Like, we're not going to do everything you think we're going to do, but we're here to help.
00:53:49
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:53:52
Chris
Right.
00:53:53
whenisspring
Right. And,
00:53:54
Chris
And nine times out of 10, we're going to do something.
00:53:57
whenisspring
We're going to do something. You know, it's not going to be...
00:54:00
Chris
Yeah. And I've been on calls like that. They're like, we got nothing we can do. was like, do something, you know, what put them on oxygen or, you know, ah you know ah take the smoke detector down and fiddle with it or something.
00:54:08
whenisspring
Sure.
00:54:12
Chris
That's not going do anything. I don't care. It makes them feel good. They they see us doing something.
00:54:15
whenisspring
but yeah.
00:54:18
whenisspring
ah it's it Like said, that's the best part of the job.
00:54:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:21
whenisspring
but When someone's disaster, they don't call anybody else.
00:54:26
Chris
Right.
00:54:26
whenisspring
Is it annoying sometimes when get phone calls?
00:54:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:29
whenisspring
Like, hey, I've got this going on. I don't know who else to call.
00:54:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:33
whenisspring
I'm calling you guys. Yeah, we come out there and we say, hey, I don't... This isn't us. We're going to call the right company.
00:54:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:40
whenisspring
That's why we did something. They know that we're going to do something.
00:54:42
Chris
Yeah, right. Yeah.
00:54:44
whenisspring
They don't call the police like that.
00:54:45
Chris
no
00:54:47
whenisspring
They very rarely... and I know there's a
00:54:55
whenisspring
people out there that say like ems workers get assaulted a crazy amount and it's not that we don't get assaulted it's very rarely people who are in the right mind right people aren't calling 9-1-1 to beat up em ems workers you know they don't fight with us when we get there very rarely and if it's usually it's because of a medical or psychiatric issue right
00:55:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:04
Chris
Oh, yeah, no, it's not. Yeah.
00:55:10
Chris
no
00:55:12
Chris
Right.
00:55:16
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. There's some kind of chemical imbalance, medical ideology, something like that. God, the good old days of wrestling a diabetic.
00:55:23
whenisspring
but the
00:55:25
whenisspring
Yeah, I mean, but but how great did you like think about it?
00:55:30
Chris
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:55:32
whenisspring
It's so hard to remember the first time you were a paramedic and you gave D50. You felt like you're a goddamn doctor.
00:55:38
Chris
It's, it's.
00:55:41
Chris
Yeah. You are.
00:55:42
whenisspring
You're like, you're a damn road doctor.
00:55:43
Chris
You're a damn road doctor.
00:55:45
whenisspring
went to medical school.
00:55:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:47
whenisspring
But Or Narcan. Remember, like, now it's different now, but remember the first time you gave Narcan and you woke somebody up from basically dead?
00:55:50
Chris
Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:55:57
whenisspring
okay Think about that. Like, um my...
00:56:00
Chris
Oh yeah. Those were always the calls. Yeah. The diabetics and the overdoses like in the yeah early twenty ten Yeah. Those were those calls that it's like I am literally going to make an immediate impact on this person that is clear as day.
00:56:19
whenisspring
You see this person who is barely breathing and out of their mind.
00:56:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:23
whenisspring
I'm going to fix them right here.
00:56:24
Chris
yeah Yeah.
00:56:26
whenisspring
They're going to get ah peanut butter and jelly sandwich from me and be fine after I'm done with this medicine.
00:56:30
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:56:33
whenisspring
ah We would do it constantly.
00:56:36
Chris
yeah And it's like even the diabetics that we would wrestle and tussle with and everything.
00:56:38
whenisspring
And I. Wow. Yeah.
00:56:42
Chris
After we fixed them, they're thanking us and, oh, how bad was I this time? And, you know, it was, yeah.
00:56:50
whenisspring
Remember the one who lived on... looks like near No, no, no, no.
00:56:54
Chris
Honeysuckle?
00:56:55
whenisspring
That was the other one. But the one who lived like on Loblolly. He always had his CPAP mask and he would always like be screaming in his CPAP mask at you. ah Oh my god. i He was always like...
00:57:07
whenisspring
thing.
00:57:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:07
whenisspring
You'd have to wrestle him to the ground.
00:57:08
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:10
whenisspring
who out like and This is another crazy rant about it. but We used to just do it with you and your partner.
00:57:17
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:57:18
whenisspring
You didn't call anybody.
00:57:18
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. If you called for a help, it's like, what are you, a coward?
00:57:22
whenisspring
Right. right like Except for Steve.
00:57:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:25
whenisspring
You got help on Steve.
00:57:26
Chris
Oh, good gosh, yes.
00:57:26
whenisspring
because We're going to need 12 of us.
00:57:28
Chris
But otherwise, yeah, otherwise it was, yeah, okay, yeah um you're 170 pounds. Take down that 300-pound man and hold him still so I can get this IV.
00:57:39
whenisspring
hu
00:57:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:40
whenisspring
so
00:57:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:41
whenisspring
And we just did it.
00:57:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:43
whenisspring
And it was awesome.
00:57:45
Chris
yeah
00:57:45
whenisspring
And yeah, sometimes a poodle bit you. And yeah, sometimes an icicle knocks you out.
00:57:52
Chris
Yeah, look, I did put something out the other day. i was like, make sure all crews are paying attention to icicles today.
00:58:00
whenisspring
That was just part of the job.
00:58:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:02
whenisspring
That's the, that is the job.
00:58:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:04
whenisspring
It's still the job.
00:58:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:04
whenisspring
but
00:58:05
Chris
yeah
00:58:05
whenisspring
You know, it's one of the things I hate about paramedicine now is diabetics. We shouldn't be taking the hospital. The right thing to do is treat them and street them and make them follow up with their doctor.
00:58:15
Chris
Right. Well, and that's a, but I think the problem is so many people aren't following up with their doctor. And so if we take them to the hospital, we're kind of forcing them to, but then the hospital's not doing it all the time.
00:58:25
whenisspring
Right.
00:58:26
Chris
So it's, yeah it's a, honestly, it should be, oh, a diabetic call.
00:58:26
whenisspring
Right. We're just.
00:58:30
Chris
Swift is coming out.
00:58:31
whenisspring
Sure.
00:58:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:32
whenisspring
Sure. But we should treat them, treat them like we used to. They can follow up with our, you know, community paramedicine or they can follow up with their doctor, but that's their choice.
00:58:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:41
whenisspring
Taking them to the hospital, I never liked it because we were forcing them into a situation.
00:58:42
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:46
whenisspring
Now where they get a bill and that's not their doctor, no matter what you are.
00:58:48
Chris
Yeah. Well.
00:58:50
whenisspring
This is a PSA for everybody in the world.
00:58:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:58:52
whenisspring
The ER r is not your doctor.
00:58:54
Chris
No.
00:58:54
whenisspring
They are not there to treat you. They are there to get you the hell out of the ER.
00:58:58
Chris
Yeah. The only time I was like really insistent on i going to the hospital is like, do you have a doctor? if they didn't, it's like, or yeah if they didn't, I'm like, yeah, okay. You probably need to go see somebody. But, you know, if it was one of those, know, why'd your sugar drop?
00:59:12
Chris
Oh, I have no idea. ah Maybe something else is going on, but it was the, Oh yeah, i forgot to eat dinner and I took my insulin or, you know, oh, I, you did too much of this or, know, whatever it was.
00:59:23
Chris
If there's usually an underlying reason why their sugar was off, that was fine, but it, yeah.
00:59:25
whenisspring
Yeah. Almost on... It always bugged me when that change happened because we went from being what I thought was the savior to kind of just a burden on the system.
00:59:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:59:39
Chris
Yeah. Hmm.
00:59:40
whenisspring
Because then they just sit in the ER and get pissed off.
00:59:42
Chris
Well, when you also have certain medical directors who are paid per contact in the ER.
00:59:48
whenisspring
Sure. Sure. That is a whole other point of it.
00:59:50
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:51
whenisspring
But, you know, I just... It always bothered me that we took away that from our medics. Because that feeling is the best feeling that you get.
00:59:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:59:59
whenisspring
There's maybe two other feelings that are better.
01:00:00
Chris
Oh, yeah.
01:00:02
whenisspring
you know
01:00:03
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:00:06
whenisspring
Delivering a baby and bringing somebody literally back from the dead.
01:00:09
Chris
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
01:00:10
whenisspring
You don't get much better than that. But going, hey, up your loved one, I'm going to fix them right now.
01:00:15
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:16
whenisspring
know
01:00:17
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:18
whenisspring
it's just
01:00:19
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:20
whenisspring
That's the great part of it.
01:00:20
Chris
I don't know if delivering a baby is that it's, great it's, it's very wet.
01:00:24
whenisspring
it's great I never really like enjoyed it.
01:00:28
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:29
whenisspring
But I'm told by humans that they find the experience fun.
01:00:32
Chris
yeah I mean, i it is cool that somewhere out there, there's a kid that's got my name on its birth certificate, but, but yeah.
01:00:39
whenisspring
I understand other departments that make a big deal of it.
01:00:42
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:42
whenisspring
You know, like um some departments do the Stork citation.
01:00:46
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:47
whenisspring
i you know i always thought that was cool. I understand it.
01:00:50
Chris
We should do something like that.
01:00:51
whenisspring
Of course we should. Just like we should have bring back the the the red citation for your uniform.
01:00:52
Chris
Yeah.
01:00:59
whenisspring
you know You should get another star every time you save a life. you know
01:01:04
Chris
I thought they brought that back.
01:01:06
whenisspring
I think you just get a certificate now.
01:01:09
Chris
No, they've had little red pins attached to them.
01:01:12
whenisspring
um Okay.
01:01:12
Chris
Yeah.
01:01:13
whenisspring
Well, then that must be the new new...
01:01:15
Chris
yeah yeah
01:01:15
whenisspring
Because they weren't doing it for a while. But you should get a Stark pin.
01:01:20
Chris
yeah
01:01:21
whenisspring
You should get know the Star of Life pin.
01:01:23
Chris
yeah
01:01:23
whenisspring
You should get those things.
01:01:25
Chris
yeah
01:01:26
whenisspring
Because you should... you know i i always think about... Like our medals are so out of whack compared to our careers.
01:01:35
Chris
yeah
01:01:36
whenisspring
Like I've got 20 years in, I've got like four citations. I've got multiples of a couple.
01:01:41
Chris
yeah
01:01:41
whenisspring
But if you look at like a 20 year cop, it's like, oh, you got all these citations. And it's not that their citations are meaningless. It's that they mean different things.
01:01:51
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you made your 300th safe stop or whatever yeah yeah yeah
01:01:51
whenisspring
Like, hey, this is good conduct. This is, you know, all these things that you get citations for. We don't do that Yeah, and we don't do that and we don't celebrate our people like that, so we don't we don't give our people those citations.
01:02:05
whenisspring
Hey, you've delivered four babies. That's something to have on your chest to be proud of.
01:02:08
Chris
yeah well and i think that's part of the problem is as a whole for the most part fire and ems we're very humble people we don't want the limelight we don't want that
01:02:09
whenisspring
Oh. Yeah.
01:02:21
Chris
or we've been ingrained to think that we don't want it, I guess, is probably closer to the truth.
01:02:22
whenisspring
oh yeah
01:02:27
whenisspring
I'm the worst one because when I write up citations, I put my crew and I don't put my name in it.
01:02:31
Chris
Yep. I'm right there with you.
01:02:33
whenisspring
yeah Right? I don't want to say they they did it.
01:02:34
Chris
Yep.
01:02:35
whenisspring
I didn't do shit.
01:02:36
Chris
Yeah, exactly.
01:02:37
whenisspring
You know, that they they deserve the citations.
01:02:38
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:42
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:44
whenisspring
But, you know, we just don't celebrate the same way other services do.
01:02:48
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:48
whenisspring
It's just, you know, it's our own curse. you know, if that makes people feel better that they can look down their chest and say, Hey, I got all these service awards.
01:02:58
Chris
Yeah.
01:02:58
whenisspring
No. Why isn't there, why isn't there a good conduct award for, you know, every five years?
01:03:00
Chris
Yeah. What's it hurt?
01:03:04
whenisspring
Like, Hey man, you, really been doing a good job here.
01:03:07
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:08
whenisspring
No, you know, it sucks for the people that didn't get the good conduct award, but you know
01:03:12
Chris
Yeah. But that maybe spurs them to not be a shit bag.
01:03:16
whenisspring
yeah. Yeah. I look at the army. I mean, You look at the army, you get a good conduct award, you get, you know, all kinds of meritorious service awards.
01:03:25
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:25
whenisspring
That doesn't necessarily mean you did something crazy heroic. It's just a tracking of your career.
01:03:30
Chris
Right. yeah
01:03:31
whenisspring
You know, when you're chief, you can fix all that stuff.
01:03:33
Chris
Yeah. sir yeah yeah
01:03:43
whenisspring
Well, we've been ranting for over an hour.
01:03:46
Chris
Yeah.
01:03:47
whenisspring
Did you have a topic you wanted to bring up at all?
01:03:47
Chris
Yeah. No, I mean, I think, yeah, the fire department chat was a good topic for today.
01:03:54
whenisspring
Yeah, yeah, well,
01:03:57
whenisspring
I always, we're not a fire department podcast, right?
01:04:01
Chris
Yeah, no, we're not.
01:04:02
whenisspring
That's not what, we don't, we're not getting salty or whatever the fuck, you know, and I'm not, I don't want to take anything away from those guys because some of, you know, some of their podcasts are great.
01:04:08
Chris
Yeah. Night. Yeah.
01:04:14
whenisspring
we're not like pushing the agenda of anything. I hope we're not pushing an agenda of anything.
01:04:18
Chris
Oh, God. No, it's just.
01:04:19
whenisspring
You know, I just, I do think that our voices and people like our voices probably need to step up in the fire service because I look at these young kids and they say, somebody has to stop here and say, wait second, and there are rewards to this.
01:04:21
Chris
Yeah.
01:04:27
Chris
Yeah.
01:04:34
Chris
yeah yeah yeah the love of the job is there yeah
01:04:35
whenisspring
You know, it's, yeah, I, but I need you to find, and I look at the ones who love the job. You know, I can, I could probably write down the name of every officer that's going to be in the Salisbury firepower in the next 10 years.
01:04:54
whenisspring
I could do that today.
01:04:56
Chris
yeah no yeah
01:04:57
whenisspring
um and don't want to do that, but I think I could do it. And I want to look at the other people and say, the reason is they love the job and we know they love the job.
01:05:10
Chris
yeah Yeah.
01:05:13
whenisspring
If you don't love the job, we're not gonna promote, we shouldn't promote you.
01:05:15
Chris
Yeah.
01:05:18
Chris
Right.
Career Challenges and Fulfillment
01:05:19
Chris
Yeah. I mean, that's yeah. Yeah. the The new Hazmat Jefe, he loves the job.
01:05:26
whenisspring
Yeah, loves the job. One of the reasons I wanted him to take it over.
01:05:28
Chris
And you can tell. Yes. Yeah. He is one of those shining examples.
01:05:34
whenisspring
Yeah, yeah, he and it's unfortunate because there's no promotional points for that.
01:05:43
Chris
Yeah.
01:05:44
whenisspring
Right. The new system is terrible because just because you tested well, you take a test doesn't mean you love the job and you're not showing other people.
01:05:45
Chris
Yeah.
01:05:48
Chris
Yeah.
01:05:52
Chris
Mm-hmm.
01:05:55
Chris
Right.
01:05:58
whenisspring
And I look, I can say I'm sure in certain parts of my career, I didn't love the job or didn't show that I love the job.
01:06:02
Chris
Yeah.
01:06:04
whenisspring
I still love the job. ah just, you know, but yeah.
01:06:07
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Those times were, you know, yeah It gets on your shoulders and yeah, that's just how it is for a while.
01:06:15
whenisspring
Yeah, but the people that should be promoted and leading people should love the job.
01:06:20
Chris
Yeah. Yep.
01:06:22
whenisspring
And the people who are good at the job, love it.
01:06:25
Chris
Yeah.
01:06:26
whenisspring
And you should be good at the job because the job will kill you in more ways than one.
01:06:29
Chris
Yeah.
01:06:31
Chris
Yeah. yeah
01:06:32
whenisspring
You know, I watched my father stress himself to death at his job, which is one of the reasons I'm a fireman, because I don't want to stress myself to myself to the job.
01:06:33
Chris
yeah
01:06:41
Chris
yeah
01:06:41
whenisspring
So love your job. find satisfaction in what you do whatever it is you do find satisfaction in it and if that doesn't satisfy you you only get one shot of this life find the thing that you love right if you love fucking being the greeter at walmart because you like interacting with people and it's fun that's your job bro you know you know it's it's it's the talk of the salisbury firework we got to promote promoting sucks
01:06:48
Chris
yeah
01:06:51
Chris
Yeah, exactly.
01:07:00
Chris
Have at it. Yeah. Yeah. hey Yeah.
01:07:12
Chris
You don't have to.
01:07:12
whenisspring
You love the job less the more you promote.
01:07:13
Chris
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.
01:07:16
whenisspring
Because it's not the job you love. Right? No matter what, once you take a promotion, it's a step away from the job you love.
01:07:23
Chris
It's a job.
01:07:24
whenisspring
You know, every promotion?
01:07:25
Chris
Well, that's the thing. it goes from being the job to a job.
01:07:30
whenisspring
Yeah. It has to, right? it's
01:07:32
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:34
whenisspring
you you know You get to my level, at I'm a step away.
01:07:35
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:39
whenisspring
you know I'm two steps away from the job I love. right I still love my job, it's but it's the job I really love is two steps below me.
01:07:44
Chris
Yeah.
01:07:47
Chris
Oh, yeah.
01:07:47
whenisspring
you know and like Like I told Sherry,
01:07:49
Chris
Oh, yeah. Being a street medic. Or a chauffeur. Those are the two best things in the world. Oh
01:07:54
whenisspring
I've told my wife many times, if I could just drive the fire truck every day, i would be i'd I'd come to work smiling, I'd wear my little gloves and my hat, I'd be the happiest man in the world.
01:07:57
Chris
my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.
01:08:06
whenisspring
right
01:08:06
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:08
whenisspring
That's not where I'm at, and it's I still love my job.
01:08:09
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:11
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:12
whenisspring
But the job is really down there. And you get above my level, you're steps and steps away from the job.
01:08:19
Chris
yeah
01:08:20
whenisspring
you know
01:08:21
Chris
yeah
01:08:21
whenisspring
You feel... i think I would say at my level and above, you feel like you're watching other people do the job you love.
01:08:29
Chris
Oh, a thousand percent.
01:08:29
whenisspring
Right? yeah
01:08:31
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:31
whenisspring
And when you get to do it, you're like, oh yeah, that job's really cool.
01:08:35
Chris
Yep.
01:08:36
whenisspring
And that's what I try to say to our medics all the time. like You're doing the cool shit.
01:08:40
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:08:41
whenisspring
Yeah, it sucks at 3 o'clock a morning when you get up. But you're still doing the cool shit.
01:08:45
Chris
Yeah.
01:08:46
whenisspring
You know. I told...
01:08:47
Chris
Let's say the last time i you know, covered a medic and i was working with one of our newer medics.
01:08:47
whenisspring
i
01:08:57
Chris
And yeah don't know, we only had like five or six calls during that 10 hours. But, you know, they're like, I'll take this call. I'm like, no, you won't. I got it. Yeah. I haven't done the fun stuff in a long time. Let me do this. Let me have this.
01:09:09
whenisspring
You guys are dipping in and doing the cool shit. I to do all the paperwork.
01:09:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:14
whenisspring
I got to do, ah look, and I, this is something that has to be said. Somebody has to do our job, my job and your job, right?
01:09:22
Chris
Yes.
01:09:22
whenisspring
So my job is to make sure my crew is working safely and doing the job.
01:09:22
Chris
Yes.
01:09:26
whenisspring
That's important.
01:09:26
Chris
Yeah.
01:09:27
whenisspring
I think my job is very important. Somebody has to do your job to make sure that we have the shit we need to do our jobs, right?
01:09:32
Chris
Right.
01:09:33
whenisspring
Those are all, it's all essential, but the cool shit is the people that I'm watching do it.
01:09:33
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Every it's all essential.
01:09:39
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:41
whenisspring
And that's what I told the jefe.
01:09:41
Chris
Yeah.
01:09:43
whenisspring
I said, you're going to find the hardest part is you have to watch people do the job you love.
01:09:48
Chris
yeah
01:09:49
whenisspring
You're going to watch people and you have to not stop them from doing it. You have to let them do it.
01:09:53
Chris
yeah yeah
01:09:55
whenisspring
You know, that's the worst part.
01:09:56
Chris
yeah
01:09:57
whenisspring
And you're going to be like, I could do it better. And you're going say, i can't. I have to let them do it.
01:10:01
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. God. God, everybody listen to this. Go join your fire department and be a firefighter. It's the best thing in the world.
01:10:12
whenisspring
Best thing in the world.
01:10:13
Chris
Or at least try it. Maybe it is the thing you like.
01:10:16
whenisspring
Yeah.
01:10:17
Chris
Yeah.
01:10:17
whenisspring
Yeah.
01:10:18
Chris
God.
01:10:18
whenisspring
Sad part is, if you don't like it, you find out right when it's really hot and really dark.
01:10:23
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
01:10:26
whenisspring
Usually, honestly, that to the world, you know in the academy, and whatever fire academy you go to, whether you like it or not.
01:10:34
Chris
Yeah. Yep.
01:10:37
whenisspring
It's not the real thing, but it's close enough that you're like, I don't like this. Right.
01:10:39
Chris
Yeah. yeah yeah
01:10:42
whenisspring
Yeah.
01:10:42
Chris
Yeah. if it Yeah. if yeah yeah If it's the, I don't know, you don't like it.
01:10:48
whenisspring
yeah
01:10:48
Chris
Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. I just, yeah. But if it's not for you, like you said, find the thing that's you and do it and enjoy it.
01:10:58
whenisspring
Find the thing you love.
01:11:00
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:00
whenisspring
right My neighbor does a job that I would literally... Actually, my best friend does a job that I've told him numerous times I would blow my brains out before working eight hours at his job.
01:11:09
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:10
whenisspring
see He reads reports and QAs them. That's what he does all day. motherfucker loves it. He loves it. He goes to work. He turns it puts sports radio in.
01:11:21
whenisspring
He listens to sports radio all day.
01:11:22
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:23
whenisspring
No one ever talks to him and he loves it. And he's like, i why would I change jobs? I'm like, you shouldn't. If you love that job, do that job.
01:11:30
Chris
Yeah. yeah If you love it, do it. Yeah.
01:11:35
whenisspring
I would never do your job.
01:11:36
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:39
whenisspring
I'm looking at three and a half years going, I don't know how to have a real job.
01:11:45
whenisspring
What do normal people do?
01:11:46
Chris
Yeah.
01:11:48
whenisspring
yeah
01:11:50
Chris
Yeah.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:11:52
whenisspring
Well, I think we think we hit a high point and a low point, and i think we're at the end.
01:11:55
Chris
Yeah. I think so. Yeah. But yeah, it's ah it's good to have these sessions every now and again. And yeah.
01:12:02
whenisspring
Yeah.
01:12:03
Chris
Yeah. I hope people out there you know take a little bit. yeah And yeah. Yeah. Still, reach out to us. Let us know you know what it is you love to do.
01:12:12
whenisspring
CLTruitt22 on BlueSky.
01:12:14
Chris
I'm not on Blue Sky.
01:12:15
whenisspring
No.
01:12:17
Chris
Twitter.
01:12:17
whenisspring
Just on X. X, can I give it to you?
01:12:18
Chris
Jess on X. X going give it to you. Yeah.
01:12:22
whenisspring
Or join the Discord. Or you know what? Run down the streets naked saying, I love this job and I love this podcast.
01:12:30
Chris
Yes, please do.
01:12:30
whenisspring
So everybody knows.
01:12:33
Chris
But until then, take care, folks.
01:12:36
whenisspring
Have a good day.