Introduction and Humorous Identity Crisis
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Chris
 Welcome back to the Mythic Draft podcast, I'm Chris.
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notasoldasyou
 And I'm... Ron?
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Chris
 Is that a question?
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notasoldasyou
 Hey, existential crisis, who knows? so
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Chris
 Oh yeah, okay, it happens.
Celebrating Birthdays and Aging
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Chris
 Until today is brought to you by the letter C because it's actually cold outside.
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notasoldasyou
 I was gonna say it's B for birthday.
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notasoldasyou
 It is the birthday of the Chris.
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Chris
 Yeah, and it's the birthday eve of the Whismur.
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notasoldasyou
 The old dirty Chris.
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notasoldasyou
 45 years old, brah.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, it's an age.
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notasoldasyou
 It's an age.
Youthful Perspectives on Aging Celebrities
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notasoldasyou
 Don't you feel, and maybe everybody feels this way, 45 was so old.
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notasoldasyou
 Like my grandfather was 45 when I was born.
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notasoldasyou
 I feel like I don't look anywhere near as old as my grandfather did at age 45.
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Chris
 No. No, no. What do you look back at like lethal weapon and things like that? I mean, you know, Danny Glover was what, 42 in that?
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notasoldasyou
 I think so. I think, what even were you, 38?
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notasoldasyou
 What was, uh, what's a, um, Beverly Hills cop tagger. That dude's like 37 or something in that movie.
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Chris
 oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, oh, he's got to be 50.
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notasoldasyou
 And I just, so I don't feel, I don't feel 45 or maybe I just don't know what 45 supposed to feel like.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I still feel like a kid.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, I still feel like I'm waiting for an adult to tell me what to do.
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notasoldasyou
 the The worst time of it is when I'm at work and everybody looks at me as the adult.
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notasoldasyou
 I'm like, you guys are like crazy.
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notasoldasyou
 like I'm going to go home and play with my Legos. What are you talking about? You don't want me making decisions,
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Chris
 Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, my oldest child is technically an adult.
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notasoldasyou
 right? Like,
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Chris
 And she's like, when does it kick in? I was like, I don't know. I'm still waiting for it to kick in.
Balancing Childlike Feelings with Adult Responsibilities
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notasoldasyou
 yeah the nursing home i don't know yeah yeah i just it's yeah i just keep waiting for it to like oh yeah like
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Chris
 Yeah, I. People all the time, I mean, they'll, you know, like we'll be out in public with people and they'll ask me a question. I'm like, I am not the adult in this relationship. Ask my wife. Let me call my mom and ask her.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, they're the adult people.
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Chris
 Yeah. I mean, is is there like a book we're supposed to get?
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notasoldasyou
 I flee dread, I never got it.
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Chris
 Yeah, I'm still waiting. Maybe it's stuck in the mail.
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notasoldasyou
 It might be.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, it just it's is weird. like And I just don't feel...
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notasoldasyou
 I just remember like when I was a kid in the 20s and you hear like comics like talking about, like oh man, you hit 40 and everything slows down.
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notasoldasyou
 I don't feel that way.
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notasoldasyou
 Like I'm maybe in the best shape of my life at 40 because at 20 I ate like a trash panda.
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Chris
 Yeah, ate like a trash panda, slept maybe three, four hours a night. Yeah, yeah.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. My, my, obviously my wife and I have the same birthday today. We're celebrating our birthday today before my family comes to town.
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notasoldasyou
 noni patriotrate filis position ah but so we're we're going out tonight and she wants to go to this this local cider house where they make hard ciders and stuff you know it's a nice little place to hang out very very low key chill out kind of event and she's like well you're gonna have have some cider and I'm like i don't I don't know if I can drink alcohol I'm gonna feel like shit in the morning
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Chris
 Yeah, it sounds delightful. Yep.
Alcohol Tolerance and Aging
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, God, no.
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notasoldasyou
 you know, that's, that's the only thing I think, that's the only thing about my age I know, I notice is I can't handle alcohol like it used to.
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notasoldasyou
 And if I eat at all the wrong food, I'm like, Oh my God, it's the worst thing I've ever done in my life.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, the days of being a human garbage disposal are well behind me.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my wife and I, we went camping this weekend. or this week for Christmas, get away from the town, get away from everybody.
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notasoldasyou
 But she left our food at home. She like mistakenly, we took the opera and everything else. And she's, you know, so we're scrounging in our house or in our RV, like eating, because there's nothing open.
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notasoldasyou
 There's nowhere to go.
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Chris
 Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You had to take a squirrel down.
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notasoldasyou
 so yeah So she's like, I'm eating tuna fish packets for Christmas. And she's like, Then yesterday, she's like, I just felt so run down. I'm like, yeah, cause we're old.
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notasoldasyou
 And if we don't eat food now, like we're supposed to, we get run down and gross.
Camping Mishaps and Culinary Adventures
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notasoldasyou
 It's terrible.
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notasoldasyou
 That's the only thing about age. I'll give you that.
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notasoldasyou
 But other than that, I feel pretty good.
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notasoldasyou
 You know, body feels, I feel like waiting, I'm waiting for the turn. i Like we're both having this conversation and tomorrow we have both wake up, can't walk.
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Chris
 Yeah, I mean, I'm like you said, I'm in very good shape. I mean, the other day I had my stress test and almost didn't pass it because I couldn't hit the target heart rate or whatever.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, I've had that wrong before.
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Chris
 And it's like, yeah, that's a good problem to have.
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notasoldasyou
 yeah When but the the last time I was in this good of shape, the doctor came in and was like, what's that noise? And it was me on the treadmill. they go so but And he's like, if he hasn't died, we're good.
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Chris
 Yeah, I don't know. I just well, but yeah you say like, you know, the figuring things that my wife has been rewatching how I met your mother and there was ah um the other night it was on and it was like they were talking like, you know, looking like, well, it's only two thirty in the morning.
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Chris
 I'm like, oh, my God, why are you up at two thirty?
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notasoldasyou
 We're good. It was like nine o'clock. I was like, well. I think I'm going bed.
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notasoldasyou
 Could've stayed up and played games, but sleep sounds good too.
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Chris
 Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Surprise Gifts and Kitchen Gadgets
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Chris
 Yeah, I don't. Yeah.
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notasoldasyou
 When's the last time you.
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Chris
 And I guess it does show my age because like one thing I got a surprise for Christmas from my in-laws. That was a total surprise. And I got a potato ricer and I'm tickled.
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notasoldasyou
 What are the squeeze ones?
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, I can't wait.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, rice and potatoes.
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notasoldasyou
 And other things that are starchy, I guess.
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Chris
 And yeah, I guess, you know, like turnips or parsnips or.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah.
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notasoldasyou
 think turn I'm not sure about parsums, they're like hard in the middle.
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Chris
 Sweet potatoes. Hmm.
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notasoldasyou
 Poison rules. Prime against humanity that people eat those things.
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notasoldasyou
 They don't even taste good.
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notasoldasyou
 Ugh. It's orange goop. Ugh.
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notasoldasyou
 Don't eat a lot of orange foods.
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Chris
 Yeah, well it's like we were talking the other day. Carrots are so hit and miss.
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notasoldasyou
 I just don't like carrots. I think that's what I've discovered. I just don't
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Chris
 i went But when you get a good carrot, it's got that little bit of sweetness to it. Delightful. But then you have the ones that taste like soap.
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notasoldasyou
 They're fine. And when they're cooked, they're not good. Like, I don't mind them when they're diced up in a soup.
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notasoldasyou
 Like, in a miracle bar or something.
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Chris
 Or shepherd's pie or something.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, that's fine. But I don't want a, like, a big old knob of carrot in my soup.
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Chris
 That's because you have to cook them down in a pound of brown sugar.
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notasoldasyou
 Well, then, yeah, of course. I'm sure they're tasty.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, just another big an orange food person.
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notasoldasyou
 It's probably the worst color for me.
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Chris
 warrant Really? I mean, orange I like a good navel orange.
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notasoldasyou
 I don't really even like oranges.
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notasoldasyou
 I find them to be less good than grapefruit.
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Chris
 yeah well the problem with the orange is it's just like the carrot thing. It's, you know, sometimes you get the ones that like the membrane is too thick.
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notasoldasyou
 Sometimes with grapefruits, you gotta to like spend a lot more time clearing the membrane away.
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notasoldasyou
 It's annoying.
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Chris
 And then you got pomelos, which is just too much pith.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, that thing's annoying. It's not worth eating.
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Chris
 No, yeah, it's too much work.
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notasoldasyou
 Right? Like, it's a joke. Like, don't eat this. It's too much work.
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Chris
 Spend your half an hour cleaning it.
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notasoldasyou
 I'm trying to think of what other color foods I don't eat a lot of and I think orange is probably the only one.
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notasoldasyou
 Like I'll eat an orange, I'm not against an orange. It's not, I remember like, oh here's an orange or an apple. I'm choosing apple. I'm not an asshole.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. As long as the apple isn't all bruised up.
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notasoldasyou
 As long as it's not Miele, I can't, I can't deal with Miele alco.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, that's a problem. When I go to the store, it will take me so long to get four apples because I will pick each one up and look at everything.
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Chris
 Yeah. And then, yeah.
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Chris
 Hmm. That's like, I don't like the little. Are they the cuties, the mandarins? I don't like those oranges.
Fruit Preferences and Humorous Debates
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notasoldasyou
 Oh, I love those things.
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Chris
 See, i I don't know.
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notasoldasyou
 um I'm going to stick to my reds and purples green fruit. Red fruit, red vegetables, red foods are the best foods.
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Chris
 Oh, but it gets fuzzy around the seeds.
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notasoldasyou
 Watermelon, arguably the best summer fruit.
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notasoldasyou
 Okay. That's a weird conversation. You get seedless, seedless watermelons. Uh, apples are amazing. Uh, red grapes are fine.
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notasoldasyou
 They're not as good as green grapes, but they're good.
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Chris
 See, I'm not a big, great person.
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notasoldasyou
 Tomatoes. Awesome fruit.
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Chris
 ah Oh, God. No, no.
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notasoldasyou
 Radishes? a Red's got all the things going for it.
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Chris
 We had beats not too long ago.
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notasoldasyou
 um i'm ah I have found that one of the people on my ship also loves pickled beets, so now we just like get the cane of pickled beets and share them.
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notasoldasyou
 and it's wait that looks but pi are these
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Chris
 Pickle. See, I'm not big on the pickled.
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Chris
 But nice roasted beef.
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notasoldasyou
 Oh, honey roasted beets?
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Chris
 We just roast them with a little bit of salt, pepper and put them on top of what's called risotto.
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notasoldasyou
 That sounds also good.
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Chris
 With a little bit of goat cheese.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, probably beets is the staining of things, but Oh, crayberries.
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Chris
 That's why i work loves when I peel them.
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notasoldasyou
 Amazing red fruit.
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Chris
 Mm hmm. Yeah. Do beats turn your pee red?
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notasoldasyou
 Not as far as I've ever seen.
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Chris
 Evidently, it's a subset of the population. It's kind of like asparagus that makes your pee smell.
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Chris
 Yeah. The first time um we had beats, yeah I was about to say, Oh, my God.
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notasoldasyou
 That would freak me out.
Food Preferences and Healthy Eating
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notasoldasyou
 No, I've not, I've not had that problem yet.
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Chris
 Yet you haven't eaten of beats.
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notasoldasyou
 I would say I don't eat enough beets. I would like to eat more beets.
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notasoldasyou
 I like me some beets. I take the beet juice and you can mix in things. Write in your oatmeal.
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Chris
 Ah, see, I can't do oatmeal. It's a texture thing.
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notasoldasyou
 Is it the gloopiness or the looseness?
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notasoldasyou
 Because I don't like my oatmeal loose.
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notasoldasyou
 I like my oatmeal drier.
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Chris
 It's the gloopy loose. the Yeah. Hmm.
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notasoldasyou
 I was eating a lot of oatmeal for my cholesterol because they tell you that's the thing you're supposed to do.
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notasoldasyou
 But I think that's also a scam that they just tell you that.
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Chris
 Every day, yeah, they they're in big with oatmeal quicker, scat them in their pocket. Yeah, let's say, I mean, my breakfast is typically, you know, a cup full of dry Cheerios on the way to work, so.
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notasoldasyou
 ah That sounds lovely.
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Chris
 It is it is like a horse. I just. Hmm. yeah
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notasoldasyou
 I have ah begun this routine of getting Greek yogurt and adding homemade cranberry sauce with chia seeds into it and then sometimes some mixed nuts.
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notasoldasyou
 That's my breakfast and it's delightful.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Every now and again, the wife will make chia pudding and make granola.
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Chris
 They mix together pretty well.
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notasoldasyou
 My wife told me, she was like, because I make cranberry sauce, I love cranberry sauce, like homemade cranberry sauce, not the crap out of a can, ever.
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Chris
 No, no, no, you got to get the cancer. That way, you know where to cut it.
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notasoldasyou
 No, never, never.
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notasoldasyou
 But she was like, put cheeses in there. And I was like, it blew my mind. It's changed everything.
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Chris
 but This woman has stumbled upon something.
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notasoldasyou
 no the It's so easy to make. It's one of the dumbest things people buy is cranberry sauce because it's so much easier to make.
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notasoldasyou
 I mean, it's got a lot of pectin.
Dining Experiences and Funny Stories
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Chris
 Dried cranberries are good.
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notasoldasyou
 So... Dracarys are good. I just wish they would stop adding sugar to them.
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Chris
 but You got to find the no sugar added.
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notasoldasyou
 I know and it's hard.
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notasoldasyou
 It's just hard.
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Chris
 It's like it's tucked away in the back, hidden away.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, we have to order some of our stuff from like the hippie mart to get some of that stuff.
00:15:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Speaking of healthy food. This is like the old man. Guys, we're talking about healthy food.
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Chris
 Yeah, as I was about to say, yeah.
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Chris
 Yeah, these guys are talking about they don't they're not old. Yeah, they are.
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notasoldasyou
 I say I feel as I'm not old.
00:15:16
notasoldasyou
 no My wife got me a homemade kombucha kit. So I'm brewing my own kombucha now.
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Chris
 Oh, you are a hippie.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah. I went into the the cupboard last night. Eight to 10 days later, I'll have a kombucha.
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Chris
 Hopefully it doesn't over pressurize and explode in your cupboard.
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notasoldasyou
 Apparently that's not a thing for kabucha because they, well, it's also, it's left open.
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notasoldasyou
 But when you go to second for a minute, that's, you gotta, that's from the worry some part is, but the first part you just cover it with cheesecloth.
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Chris
 Well, just leave it open. I mean, they leave pickle vats open.
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notasoldasyou
 They do. That's, and they also, that's how they make beers on break, right? There's that, uh, was it lambics that are made like that?
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notasoldasyou
 Natural killing yeast. Yeast is amazing. It's interesting Yeah,
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notasoldasyou
 and was i that that's probably the prize of the Christmas was kombucha She also got me a Pocket size multi-tool and i'm staying pocket sized in heavy air quotes.
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notasoldasyou
 The thing is the size of my thigh It's like, it's supposed, it's in the shape of the morning of Falcon. And it says, you open it up, it says, pax I'm like, whose pocket is this for?
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Chris
 A giant half giant.
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notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Half time. Clearly half time. It's fair. I'm not a half giant.
00:16:50
Chris
 No, no, no. Yeah, I think I got the racer.
00:16:52
notasoldasyou
 Normal man.
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Chris
 No, I mean, You know, we don't really do a lot of exchanges. So.
00:16:58
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. You live the dream.
00:17:02
Chris
 Although my grandmother did give me socks, which is always a nice thing.
00:17:06
notasoldasyou
 Actually at this point I didn't get socks this year.
00:17:08
Chris
 Yeah, you never know, there's still time.
00:17:17
Chris
 We mix things up this year and. We had missed going down to Ocean City to see the lights, and on Christmas Day, we were like, I wonder if it's open. Sure enough, it was. Best time to go.
00:17:29
notasoldasyou
 That's a fair point. Nobody be there.
00:17:31
Chris
 Holy day. It was delightful. Walked through.
00:17:34
Chris
 And like you said, the hard part was trying to find some place to eat. So we found a Japanese steakhouse that was open that I don't think I'll go back to.
00:17:44
Chris
 But yeah. Well, when young Dimitri took our order, And my youngest said, is this gluten free? What is gluten?
00:17:59
notasoldasyou
 For those who are outside of the know, Ocean City, Maryland is notorious for having Russians and Eastern Europeans working in the restaurants.
00:18:06
Chris
 Yes. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So our hibachi chef, the kid's swear was named Ivan. But he did not look like an Ivan.
00:18:21
Chris
 But yeah, the food was fine. Just they're very pushy on evidently all their meals come with an appetizer.
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Chris
 Like, you know, what's his appetizer? I was like, I don't want any of those. It was chicken livers, mushrooms or shrimp.
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Chris
 None of those I like.
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Chris
 So finally he was like, ah you can have double rice. It's like, OK, so I have this giant plate of rice. Yeah. So, but yeah.
00:18:49
notasoldasyou
 Speaking of immigrants, I have the craziest story in the world to tell and it's a warning for all because I almost lost my job.
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Chris
 I was about to say that someone else asked you for a calf mold.
00:19:00
notasoldasyou
 No, what where it worked, my last shift working and we weren't busy, but we got to that point where it was dinner time. And of course the city decided to blow up so that it was like seven 30.
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notasoldasyou
 And we haven't, you know, like we would come back to the station long enough to like look at dinner, but it wasn't quite ready.
00:19:18
Chris
 Oh, wait, your chauffeur didn't take their dinner with them.
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notasoldasyou
 You know, so we go out on our.
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notasoldasyou
 No, it wasn't ready.
00:19:28
notasoldasyou
 was we were We could finish dinner because we kept getting interrupted.
00:19:35
notasoldasyou
 So then it's like 7.30 or 8 o'clock and we went out to one of the ah apartment buildings in our area.
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notasoldasyou
 for a fire alarm activation and all the people standing out front and just it's cold it's like 10 degrees outside that night and they're grumbling and I'm like alright
Workplace Anecdotes and Emergencies
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notasoldasyou
 I don't figure out what's going on and this guy comes up to me and he's like these dumbasses pulled the fire alarm and I think it's because they're locked out of their apartment and I'm like no that's not true this can't be this this can't be true so sure enough I go up there they don't speak English I'm not gonna
00:20:14
notasoldasyou
 denigrate a whole race of people by saying what they do speak, but it's a language that does not English.
00:20:21
notasoldasyou
 And then I can, Tig didn't speak another language that they understand. And I finally found out that, yeah, they locked themselves out of the apartment. And so they hit, pulled the fire alarm.
00:20:33
notasoldasyou
 I was fine until they just started like looking at me and laughing and saying, are you going to open the apartment? And I said, the fuck I am.
00:20:42
notasoldasyou
 And we left. And they're like, what?
00:20:45
notasoldasyou
 I'm like, no. So let me, this guy got there and I said, you're going to handle that problem.
00:20:52
notasoldasyou
 Uh, um, I've lost my, I lost my cool little bit.
00:20:56
notasoldasyou
 It was just, oh man.
00:20:58
Chris
 Yeah. Well, that, and I mean, they don't understand that took an engine, a ladder truck and a duty chief.
00:21:09
notasoldasyou
 And luckily I was able to put the other units in service, but yeah.
00:21:12
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, that's why everybody should be allowed one slap a week.
00:21:16
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. It's just because.
00:21:20
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. One slap would be good.
00:21:24
notasoldasyou
 Well in, and I said this, and I got back from the call, I said 20 years ago, that wouldn't happen again because those people would be just now getting done, getting chewed up by the fire department.
00:21:37
notasoldasyou
 You know, like I remember when I started and the old heads, not, not even at work, but like when I was starting to volunteer, the old heads, we went to the vault when like the college kids pulled the alarms for stupid reasons, we would make them sit outside for three hours just to do it.
00:21:54
notasoldasyou
 You know, Because then it's like, well, you figure out who pulled the fire alarm and you beat the crap out of him. Cause we're going to make you stay here for three hours.
00:21:59
Chris
 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Tough love.
00:22:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. Now we're like, no, no, it'd be nice to you.
00:22:14
notasoldasyou
 Definitely was the closest I've come to losing in my cool in a long time at work.
00:22:25
Chris
 Yeah, that's a frustrating one.
00:22:25
notasoldasyou
 But the goodness is they don't speak English to file a complaint. So I'll be right.
00:22:33
notasoldasyou
 and Oh, when the one of them looked means faith speaks French better.
00:22:33
Chris
 but Just wait till they get their fine from the Fire Marshal's office.
00:22:40
notasoldasyou
 I'm like, fuck you motherfucker. I'm trying.
00:22:43
Chris
 Oh, yeah, that's yeah.
00:22:45
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. It's like, why?
00:22:48
Chris
 speak french better
00:22:49
notasoldasyou
 They don't really talk in Duolingo about why the hell did you set the fire alarm off. That's not one that they go over.
00:22:56
Chris
 Maybe that's what we need to do. We need to make a dual lingo for fire and EMS.
00:23:01
notasoldasyou
 I would love to have Duolingo for EMS because I can say, I know how to say, are you hurting your back, your arms and your legs and your head.
00:23:12
notasoldasyou
 That's about as far as I get out of Duolingo.
00:23:14
notasoldasyou
 You know, what we were, we had a patient like last month. And I got to the point where I was like, I kind of figured out what's going on and ah young the youngest paramedic on my shift looks at me and says, well, could you ask her um in French if it's okay if we give her an IV?
00:23:33
notasoldasyou
 And I looked at her and I said, I'm struggling with how are you today? And you want me to say, this do you consent to an IV?
00:23:48
notasoldasyou
 I said, just give her the IV.
00:23:54
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. That would be great. That would be handy.
00:23:56
Chris
 Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think like in Spanish, it would be like, yeah.
00:24:05
notasoldasyou
 She's like, I'm going to do a blood draw.
00:24:06
Chris
 And then there's like all the gesticulations with it.
00:24:07
notasoldasyou
 Can you tell her? ah She was like, can you tell her that I'm going to do a blood draw? I said, Natalie, I don't know how to say blood draw in French. Draw would be designated, but that means to do art.
00:24:20
Chris
 Yeah, this is an Asengue.
00:24:23
notasoldasyou
 I'm going to draw your blood. Like we're doing a picture.
00:24:26
Chris
 You see the patient, the patient gets all freaked out.
00:24:33
notasoldasyou
 Rightly so at that point.
00:24:34
Chris
 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:37
Chris
 They get back, they tell you, that crazy paramedic was going to trawl things with my blood. It's like some voodoo they do.
00:24:53
notasoldasyou
 It's a weird job.
00:24:55
notasoldasyou
 It's a weird job.
00:24:56
Chris
 Yeah. but's say I like, you know, when people are like, well, you speak Spanish. No, I don't know. I'm middling at best.
00:25:02
notasoldasyou
 but I speak better Spanish than you.
00:25:05
notasoldasyou
 Doesn't mean I speak Spanish.
00:25:07
Chris
 Yeah. That's it. Yeah. Doing our volunteer stuff the other day, a couple of the families were, you know, flattened descent and, you know, I spoke a little Spanish to them and, you know, of course, you know, as soon as you start to speak a little bit of Spanish and they're like, oh, now we can talk.
00:25:22
Chris
 It's like, no, no, we can't.
00:25:23
notasoldasyou
 Nope, nope, nope, nope, slowly, l'antement, s'il vous plaît, slowly.
00:25:28
Chris
 Yes. Yeah. This is when I get to the point where I smile and nod and say ho, ho, ho a lot.
00:25:36
notasoldasyou
 L'ho-ho, l'ho-ho.
00:25:43
notasoldasyou
 As again, ah one of my, I wish I was fluent.
00:25:48
notasoldasyou
 But that that's a level of fluency that you're never going to reach without living there.
00:25:54
Chris
 Well, yeah. Well, it's, we just need the little earbuds that just translate.
00:25:55
notasoldasyou
 ah you Yeah. Yeah. But like, until that happens, it's a level of fluency that you're just not going to get.
00:26:07
Chris
 Yeah. No. And look, I mean, thank goodness for Google Translate.
00:26:12
notasoldasyou
 ah I have found it, especially with medical stuff, it really struggles.
00:26:13
Chris
 For the most part, it will get you in trouble sometimes, but.
00:26:19
Chris
 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's it's better than, you know, when we first started 20 years ago, where all you did was talk slow and loud.
00:26:20
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:29
notasoldasyou
 yeah Are you okay?
00:26:34
notasoldasyou
 Refuso to go hospital low. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to tell you how many times I've done that.
00:26:44
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Well, really the department should send me to France for six months so I can really.
00:26:47
Chris
 Oh, we could, I mean, we've got an exchange program.
00:26:49
notasoldasyou
 Rush up on my French.
00:26:54
notasoldasyou
 Right, I'll go to Fred for six months.
00:26:57
notasoldasyou
 Bring one of their French firefighters over.
00:27:00
Chris
 You and Eric just switch.
00:27:02
notasoldasyou
 Well, I think he retired. So we're going to have to get the nails.
00:27:06
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, get zero. Yeah, I feel like this is a good plan. And I think he was a chef duper god, so I don't really think like you're going to... Hey, we're switching.
00:27:17
notasoldasyou
 This guy's going to be a chief over here.
00:27:22
Chris
 Just walk around. Wait.
00:27:24
notasoldasyou
 but I could point in any language.
00:27:32
Chris
 ah Well, I think we've rigged and rolled. Ready for topic one.
00:27:38
notasoldasyou
 We've rigged a roll. i Yeah.
00:27:41
notasoldasyou
 Topic one is like iss actually related to the fire department and it's something I think you're the only one who could answer.
00:27:47
notasoldasyou
 This is one of those, it's not like crazy serious, but it's something I think people would be
00:27:51
Chris
 The key to the executive room is kept in.
00:27:56
notasoldasyou
 How long did it take you to become normal again when you went to day work?
00:28:05
notasoldasyou
 Because I think about this as I'm getting closer to retirement. I had a conversation with my wife about it. Like, how long is it going to take me to be a normal boy again? You know, I've worked shift work for 20 plus years at this point.
00:28:19
notasoldasyou
 It's going to be a while.
00:28:21
Chris
 Um, it took me the better part of half a year.
00:28:26
notasoldasyou
 That's kind of what I'm thinking.
00:28:27
Chris
 Yeah. To like really feel that way. I mean, within a few weeks, I started a little bit, but but for months, I still every D shift, I woke up at five o'clock in the morning.
Adjusting Work Schedules and Meal Timings
00:28:41
Chris
 Just my body was like, you've done this for years. This is what you have to do. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:48
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, I think about
00:28:51
notasoldasyou
 yeah this's one people People like that, not people in the fire department, but people who don't understand the fire department, they're like, look at these dumb firemen. It's like, you don't understand how much we put our bodies through just to be here.
00:29:06
notasoldasyou
 Whether you work 2448s, 2472s, God forbid, 4896s.
00:29:11
Chris
 With animals, do that's, I see people post about that all the time, like, oh yeah, it's the best shift.
00:29:16
Chris
 I'm like, yeah, it's the best shift if you're in a slow house.
00:29:19
notasoldasyou
 My buddy works in a 48 96 department and he hates it.
00:29:23
Chris
 Yeah, I mean, if yeah if you ran even half of what we run in Salisbury, oh my gosh, you'd kill somebody.
00:29:23
notasoldasyou
 And Oh, you know, you could, well, they, and I asked one, that's one of the questions I've asked him cause they're a lot slower than we are.
00:29:36
notasoldasyou
 And I said, well, do you got your paramedics, right? A 48 hour shift on the ambulance or your, your ambulance, whoever's on your ambulance.
00:29:43
notasoldasyou
 Oh no, we would never do that. And I'm like, never. Well, it does happen. I'm like, there's no fucking way.
00:29:48
notasoldasyou
 But he, he.
00:29:49
notasoldasyou
 He blew my mind about it because I didn't know he's on 4896 and he kept saying, man, I'm tired of missing out, like so much stuff at home.
00:29:57
notasoldasyou
 And, you know, if you, because if you think about it, if you work Christmas Eve and you work Christmas, there goes your whole holiday, you know, and, uh, he was ready to quit because all that stuff and I get it.
00:29:59
Chris
 yeah Ooh. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:08
notasoldasyou
 That's a terrible shift, but stuff that just, just the getting to work part of our job.
00:30:17
notasoldasyou
 Not to mention everything we did to get on the job, but just getting up to go to work.
00:30:25
notasoldasyou
 It's crazy what people don't understand about that job.
00:30:30
Chris
 Yeah. What I mean, and think about the guys and gals that work like up and up and around D.C. and Baltimore areas, things like that. I mean, they they do shifts change at like what, like 530.
00:30:43
notasoldasyou
 lot I know my
00:30:44
Chris
 So they can try and miss the Beltway traffic and all that.
00:30:47
notasoldasyou
 My buddy's house in DC, they did shift range at 3.30 in the morning until the fire chief actually told him they couldn't do it anymore.
00:30:55
notasoldasyou
 ah Because he was a dick.
00:30:56
Chris
 Oh, OK. Let's say who cares?
00:30:57
notasoldasyou
 ah Yeah, because they would get in at 3.30. You were expected to get to work at 3.30.
00:31:04
notasoldasyou
 And that way, your part whoever you were leaving can be on the road by 4.
00:31:09
notasoldasyou
 And that was just how they deal with the traffic there.
00:31:13
notasoldasyou
 yeah because what people don't realize is most of us can't afford to live in the cities that we work in.
00:31:22
notasoldasyou
 You know, so like a lot of DC firemen, they do not live in the city.
00:31:26
notasoldasyou
 Very few of them I probably, you know, so they, they drive to, I mean, there's DC firemen live in my neighborhood, which
00:31:35
Chris
 Yeah. Well, and I will say East Coast, we usually stay within a couple of hours of where we work. But I mean, West Coast, there are folks that do like crazy switch shifts and work a week on and then three weeks off because they fly out. No.
00:31:54
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, that's, that's, yeah, that's the stuff I really think about, like what that's going to mean to be retired.
00:32:05
notasoldasyou
 I'm not going to work a shift work job, if I work any, God's sakes, you know.
00:32:11
Chris
 Let's like I got thinking, you know, whenever I do retire, if I did get, you know, a part time job or something like that, I can see it now. They're going to be like, yeah, this is the time clock. I'm sorry, the what.
00:32:21
notasoldasyou
 yeah right i haven't had to punch in ever yeah like i think when i worked at saturn for like a week i punched in there you know but and we don't we don't punch a clock if you would think we would but we don't punch a clock because the department doesn't care who's on that rig as long as the rig gets out the door
00:32:23
Chris
 I haven't used a time clock in 20 some years.
00:32:29
Chris
 Yeah. Since I worked at a gas station,
00:32:52
notasoldasyou
 You know, that's between you and your station mates, you know, which is good.
00:33:00
notasoldasyou
 That's how it should be.
00:33:01
notasoldasyou
 You know, it's one of the biggest perks of our job is the lieutenant who works on seaship, if he, if he called me and said, well, not tonight, but, Hey, can you be in here tonight?
00:33:10
notasoldasyou
 I probably back myself up and be in there. I did it to two weeks ago for him, you know.
00:33:16
notasoldasyou
 That's just a perk.
00:33:18
notasoldasyou
 Put a regular job, like with normal people.
00:33:24
notasoldasyou
 Totally. That sounds awful.
00:33:28
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that And that's been one of the, that was one of the bigger adjustments for me also was Now I'm in an office and you know, it's different, but yeah, I tell you another thing that takes your body a while to get used to is eating normal times.
00:33:46
notasoldasyou
 You're right. That's, that's kind of where I was thinking about too, is like, we eat it on my shift.
00:33:52
notasoldasyou
 And I'm not going to say this is how everywhere in the world works. We all eat breakfast early.
00:33:58
notasoldasyou
 You know, I walk in the door at six 30 or I work in the door at six 10, but by six 30, I'm probably eating my breakfast by 11.
00:34:06
notasoldasyou
 I'm starving to death and I'm eating lunch.
00:34:10
notasoldasyou
 504 were like, when the hell's dinner gonna be ready?
00:34:13
notasoldasyou
 You know, and that's just how the fire department works. You eat at five o'clock. You're like an old person.
00:34:21
notasoldasyou
 I put you're so used to it.
00:34:23
Chris
 I mean, so being on day work, we, we typically eat lunch at 12. And that was a huge adjustment.
00:34:35
notasoldasyou
 12 to 4. You go at 12, you come back at 4. Yeah, I know what your day workers do.
00:34:39
Chris
 That was shut up. we We pack our lunch four out of five days. Um, but yeah, and well, our chief who is recently, you know, it's been almost a year now, but you know, when he was first off of s shift work, it was like 11 o'clock.
00:34:56
Chris
 He's like, all right, time for lunch. We're like, no, it's not now.
00:34:58
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, no, no.
00:35:01
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:01
Chris
 So and then, yeah, dinnertime.
00:35:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, it's...
00:35:04
Chris
 I mean, I still to this day, five o'clock, I'm hungry.
00:35:09
Chris
 And my family and I have kind of compromised and I usually start cooking or whoever starts cooking a little bit after five and know it's like five thirty six o'clock, usually those dinner.
00:35:20
notasoldasyou
 Well, we have to eat dinner at five, because if you don't eat dinner at five oh four, you're not going to eat dinner until eight.
00:35:28
Chris
 Yeah, there is a magical little window in there.
00:35:32
notasoldasyou
 You're just not going to eat.
00:35:35
notasoldasyou
 You know, and. At least on my shift, I always try to make it so that it's ready around five 30 at the latest. So that if the paramedics do go and I'll call it, you know, they're going to call it five, then they can back and get a quick food.
00:35:52
notasoldasyou
 So they're eating at six instead of eight o'clock at night.
00:35:55
notasoldasyou
 But if you ever are late on dinner and you get a call at four o'clock and now dinner's going to be until six, you might as well just say, we're not even delayed.
00:36:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. That's just how it goes.
00:36:05
Chris
 Which is why when I was on the medic, I always had a little bag of snacks.
00:36:11
Chris
 Because the days of, you know, raiding the hospital.
00:36:16
Chris
 Yeah, they're done.
00:36:18
notasoldasyou
 I'm starving to death.
00:36:18
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:36:19
notasoldasyou
 I'm going to go get some crackers and a dendro.
00:36:21
Chris
 Yeah. Yes. I would get so hangry. God. Look to the point in. Yeah. I mean, everybody, especially on the ambulance, has a witching hour. And yeah.
00:36:31
Chris
 Like one of my partners, he would, you know, just give me a bag of Skittles at about two thirty in the afternoon to give me that little sugar to keep me from murdering someone.
00:36:43
notasoldasyou
 I will say the thing that's going to be hardest for me will be getting used to eating like a normal person.
00:36:51
Chris
 Mm hmm. I mean, not bolting it down like a wolf.
00:36:54
notasoldasyou
 You know, not, not, not just that, but that is definitely, that's definitely one thing.
00:37:03
notasoldasyou
 You know, there's only two people in the fire department who don't do that. and I don't know how they do their maniacs.
00:37:08
notasoldasyou
 But yeah, yeah.
00:37:11
notasoldasyou
 And just watching those people eat, I'm like, what is wrong with you? And they're like, Oh, this is how normal people eat it.
00:37:15
notasoldasyou
 Great. That's right.
00:37:18
notasoldasyou
 You know, like if I go out to dinner with my wife, it's a 35 minute affair, right?
00:37:25
notasoldasyou
 Like we sit down, I eat, I'm ready to order when the waiter walks up, I eat my food as soon as it comes.
00:37:31
notasoldasyou
 I mean, it's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
00:37:33
Chris
 Yeah, yeah, I have planned out my meal while I'm en route to the restaurant.
00:37:33
notasoldasyou
 That's not normal.
00:37:39
notasoldasyou
 yeah Yeah. And when it gets to my, I, I shovel the food in, I don't stop, breathe.
00:37:46
notasoldasyou
 And then I, you know, drink my drink and I'm ready to go.
00:37:50
Chris
 Exactly, yeah, yeah.
00:37:54
notasoldasyou
 Oh, and the pooping.
00:37:56
Chris
 But that is a nice thing about not being on shift work is you can you know, you can poop in peace.
00:38:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, you can never.
00:38:06
notasoldasyou
 there' There's three rules of the fire department. If you got a piss now, piss now.
00:38:11
Chris
 Yeah, if you even think you have to piss, go piss.
00:38:13
notasoldasyou
 if you even If there's even a possibility you might have to piss in the next hour, you might as well piss now.
00:38:18
notasoldasyou
 ah You're never going to poop soundly and safely. And every time you take a shower, a call is going to come in.
00:38:26
Chris
 Yeah, yeah, yeah, those those are the rules.
00:38:27
notasoldasyou
 it yeah You can never, ever let your guard down to poop.
00:38:37
notasoldasyou
 I always feel bad.
00:38:37
Chris
 It's not even one of those that you can like, all right, we're headed back. I'm going to be fine. Nope. No, it's not how it is.
00:38:45
notasoldasyou
 No, no, no.
00:38:49
notasoldasyou
 I always go back and sometimes in the morning I'll come in at, second or sixth, and there's a C shift is cursed with the six 20 call.
00:38:59
notasoldasyou
 And I usually get in there like six 15, but sometimes like I got to take my morning a poop and I'm not ready to relieve that, that Lieutenant until a good six 25 and they're already on a call.
00:39:05
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. yeah
00:39:12
notasoldasyou
 And I always feel bad, but I'm like, I'm not going to interrupt this. This is my last peaceful poop for 24 hours.
00:39:19
notasoldasyou
 It's not going to happen. Yeah.
00:39:23
Chris
 Yeah. Because you can't go out of service to poop.
00:39:26
notasoldasyou
 No, you can't go out of service for pretty much anything.
00:39:31
notasoldasyou
 We're never out of service because no matter what we say, if we're last out or out of service, as soon as a fire comes, we're going without a call.
00:39:42
notasoldasyou
 If it's a lift assist, yeah, we're out of service for that, but and not a fire.
00:39:47
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like a good call. We're ah ready.
00:39:51
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. We had a ah busy shift a couple of weeks ago and my boss is like, I get back to the station, get a shower and a car fire comes in or whatever. He's like, I let the volunteers, I said, I ain't letting the volunteers handle a fire in my district.
00:40:07
notasoldasyou
 I'm going." And he was like, no, fire my district, not happening.
00:40:17
notasoldasyou
 Ain't nobody.
00:40:19
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, this these are the things that I think about as ah getting near my end of my fire service career.
00:40:26
notasoldasyou
 Whatever that may end up being, I think I'm looking forward to returning to a normal sleep schedule.
00:40:35
notasoldasyou
 Not going to bed at 6 30 at night.
00:40:41
Chris
 Yeah, because I was thinking like for years.
00:40:41
notasoldasyou
 Cause I get right.
00:40:44
Chris
 I work, you know, D shift, so I got maybe five hours if I was lucky. And then a shift night. I body would try to you know reclaim some and I'd sleep 10 to 12 hours sometimes.
00:41:02
Chris
 B shift was somewhat normal. I'd sleep like seven and then. C shift was night before work. So I was back to six and it was like, you know, 10, eight, six, four, 10, eight, six, four, 10, eight, six, four.
00:41:14
Chris
 It's just, rough oh, yeah.
00:41:15
notasoldasyou
 Right. You're not sleeping, no matter who you are, you're not sleeping well on shift.
00:41:21
notasoldasyou
 I don't care if you have no calls all day, still not sleeping well.
00:41:26
notasoldasyou
 You know, especially as the boss, because you're like always on the alert, you know, because we, we work in a city that doesn't understand or county that doesn't understand how dispatch work.
00:41:38
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:39
Chris
 Yeah, that's I always thought it'd be fascinating if everybody in the department had a sleep tracker or finish track or something and just once a week downloaded it just for aggregate data to see how it really plays out.
00:41:53
notasoldasyou
 Oh, I mean, I mean, I wear one. I wear my my sleep tracker when I'm at work every night.
00:42:00
notasoldasyou
 And because I went on, I mean, i we came home from work. I came home from work. I think my wife was with me. I came home from work. We loaded up the RV and we were we were gone.
00:42:11
notasoldasyou
 So I didn't, and we didn't have any real calls after a minute, but I was still listening to calls.
00:42:18
notasoldasyou
 and um I was in bed by 7 at A-shift night and it was the worst sleep I've ever, I mean, my trackers ever had.
00:42:30
notasoldasyou
 Cause I rarely ever wear it on A-shift.
00:42:33
notasoldasyou
 Um, usually I don't wear it on A-shift nights. I, but it was, I just was like, I'm not taking it off.
00:42:39
notasoldasyou
 It was bad. My sleep score was poor was, was all it said.
00:42:45
Chris
 It's like, I don't know what you called this, but this was not sleep.
00:42:48
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:52
notasoldasyou
 That's why I take naps.
00:42:54
notasoldasyou
 Naps are an important part of my system.
00:42:58
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Well, it's like I had this conversation with people at work.
00:43:01
notasoldasyou
 I'm like, I don't care that my firefighters are napping in the afternoon anymore.
00:43:05
notasoldasyou
 In fact, I kind of encourage it.
00:43:07
notasoldasyou
 I can't allow myself to do it because my brain has been twisted over years of my career that won't allow me to sleep.
00:43:17
notasoldasyou
 If I'm napping, it's because I'm sick. right like
00:43:21
Chris
 Yeah. I mean, when we started, it was, you're not allowed to lay down till after 11 o'clock at night.
00:43:26
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. You weren't even allowed to go into a place where there were comfortable chairs until after dinner, right?
00:43:34
notasoldasyou
 Like you had to sit basically in the engine bay or in the little office.
00:43:41
notasoldasyou
 That was it, you know, and that was just how it was.
00:43:45
notasoldasyou
 It was wrong.
00:43:47
notasoldasyou
 You know, people like people to this day are still like, Oh, I can't believe you guys do that.
00:43:54
notasoldasyou
 We get our shit done. We check our equipment. We do our training.
00:43:56
notasoldasyou
 We do PT. If they want to nap from then until dinner, I do not care.
00:44:01
notasoldasyou
 Why should I?
00:44:04
notasoldasyou
 Because they're going to get their butts kicked at night.
00:44:07
notasoldasyou
 It might not be tonight, but it's going to be at night.
00:44:12
notasoldasyou
 Let them nap. Who cares?
00:44:16
notasoldasyou
 We used to give crochet city crap because they would come to work and be napping by 7.30 in the morning.
00:44:21
notasoldasyou
 Now I'm like, yeah, they're smarter than we are.
00:44:25
Chris
 Well, for a part of the year, they can do that. That's fine. But the rest of the time of the year now.
00:44:32
notasoldasyou
 I mean, you mean 90, 90% of the year that they can do it and the 10% of the year they can't.
00:44:38
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah. And they're still not supposed to be here.
00:44:46
notasoldasyou
 Well, that's all I had for my topic was I was just musings.
00:44:47
Chris
 Hmm. Yeah, it's... No, it's it's definitely a thing.
00:44:53
Chris
 So... And I mean, I... Yeah.
00:44:57
notasoldasyou
 Hug a fireman next time you see him.
00:44:57
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't warn them, though.
00:45:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, no are definitely not.
00:45:03
Chris
 Nah, just hug. Yeah, it's...
00:45:07
notasoldasyou
 Just write a book on how to transition out.
00:45:07
Chris
 It's definitely a transition. Mmm. So...
00:45:15
notasoldasyou
 Here, you're about to retire.
00:45:16
notasoldasyou
 Here's the things you need to know.
00:45:17
Chris
 Oh, yeah, I mean, that is yeah something to think about.
00:45:21
notasoldasyou
 That's what the army does, right?
AI's Impact on Jobs: Inevitable Change?
00:45:27
Chris
 Yeah, I mean, it's there's changes. ah Hmm.
00:45:34
notasoldasyou
 Well, on the topic too.
00:45:36
Chris
 Sure. So topic two, my I can't remember what we are watching or Something I don't know.
00:45:44
notasoldasyou
 up little way wow
00:45:45
Chris
 But na no, no, no. Or maybe I don't know.
00:45:52
Chris
 No. But my wife and I, and I think the kids were involved in the conversation. We're talking about, you know, there's somebody fussing about. AI art. And is it bad?
00:46:04
Chris
 And I don't I don't know exactly how I feel about it. I mean, I think it's bad if it's taking jobs away from people, but i if they're not crediting themselves is using AI to make like graphics and things like that a bad idea.
00:46:23
notasoldasyou
 Oh man, this is a tough one, huh?
00:46:25
Chris
 Because I knew like um ah ah Activision is getting a lot of heat for it because Like one of the loading screens for Call of Duty right now, you can tell it's A.I.
00:46:38
Chris
 because when the character says six fingers, which evidently that's a big thing with A.I., it puts six.
00:46:42
notasoldasyou
 It's the hands.
00:46:44
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, it's also the hands.
00:46:45
Chris
 Hmm. And they're talking about not having the voice actors come back for certain things. So and they'll just use A.I. to replicate their voice, which I'm not.
00:46:57
Chris
 I don't like that. But for like images and stuff, you know, I don't know.
00:47:04
notasoldasyou
 So in 1805, this is, it's relevant. It's, I'll get there.
00:47:13
notasoldasyou
 In 1805, Britain was known for making lace.
00:47:19
notasoldasyou
 There was all, it was one of the things that they did because the lace went on stockings and on your clothes, but they,
00:47:30
notasoldasyou
 It was kind of going through the 18th century, and when the 18th century switched to the 19th century, people stopped wearing lace. So all of these lace weavers, or lace makers, no longer had jobs.
00:47:44
notasoldasyou
 And they had to join the army.
00:47:45
notasoldasyou
 It was a big thing that there was this whole, basically, population of Britain that didn't have jobs anymore, and they joined the army, and that happened to be the Napoleonic War, so they, you know, were gainfully employed in the army.
00:47:58
notasoldasyou
 Right, wrong, or different, right?
00:47:58
Chris
 From from darning lace to army.
00:48:02
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah.
00:48:03
Chris
 I mean, those skills transition over.
00:48:05
notasoldasyou
 Well, it was more of the fact that they had nowhere else to go, but you know, and in 1900, the most popular jobs in America had to do with coal mining, right?
00:48:21
notasoldasyou
 And steam engine production and maintenance.
00:48:26
notasoldasyou
 Those jobs went away.
00:48:30
notasoldasyou
 In America in 2020s, we seem to think that nothing can go away.
00:48:39
notasoldasyou
 We seem to have this idea that EVs are going to destroy petroleum cars. What would all happen to all the people that make petroleum cars?
00:48:48
notasoldasyou
 Same thing that happened to the steam engine guys, right? like
00:48:51
Chris
 Yeah, and I didn't really think about it in that sense.
00:48:56
notasoldasyou
 It's, it's, does it, does it mean that art is going to go away?
00:49:02
notasoldasyou
 But has art already gone away? Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo and all of those guys, they made their money because very rich people were willing to subsidize them to do art for them.
00:49:15
notasoldasyou
 But that doesn't happen now. Right? Like artists make art and hope it sells in this weird artificial economy that they've created.
00:49:25
notasoldasyou
 But it's all fake. So they but people who are complaining about AI art are really complaining about a fake thing.
00:49:35
notasoldasyou
 Art has no value, except what we put on it.
00:49:39
notasoldasyou
 Right? So if their argument is, well, AI, i' ah I'm not addressing the voice actor part yet, but I'm talking specifically about AI art.
00:49:46
Chris
 Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They are.
00:49:48
notasoldasyou
 If their argument is that art takes away jobs,
00:49:53
notasoldasyou
 A.I.R. takes away jobs. Well, those jobs were kind of bullshit in the first place, right?
00:49:58
Chris
 Yeah, I mean, but yeah, and because I'm sure like animators now and everything, you know, they're probably drawing a cell or something, but they're using a lot of copy and paste and stuff like that to like, you know, move on from that and edit and.
00:50:00
notasoldasyou
 like we't right The animators of Walt Disney's time don't, they don't operate that way anymore.
00:50:19
notasoldasyou
 Right? So it animation probably used to employ hundreds of artists to make an animated movie.
00:50:26
notasoldasyou
 Now it's probably, and probably since the eighties has been tens of animators.
00:50:34
notasoldasyou
 And now it will be one animator. That's just
00:50:38
Chris
 Yeah. And and look, side tangent to that. I have tried to draw on an iPad with a style. I can't do it.
00:50:46
notasoldasyou
 Well, that's the, that was the next side of it.
Art Evolution and Technology's Role
00:50:48
notasoldasyou
 I'm going to say is these are just the next evolution of artists, right?
00:50:52
notasoldasyou
 This is a new form of art.
00:50:55
notasoldasyou
 It's like, you know, Botticelli wouldn't be popular today because that's not the art that people like, right?
00:51:02
notasoldasyou
 Botticelli wouldn't be working at Activision making Call of Duty script stills. But, you know, Billy, the AI graphic designer, because it's not, this is like my only argument about it is there's still human interaction and in the art, right?
00:51:21
notasoldasyou
 Someone's doing the, the, the programming or the, not even really the programming, the inputs to the AI to make the thing.
00:51:30
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's not like AI is going, here's this game we designed and here's the art for it, everything else.
00:51:31
notasoldasyou
 So it's, it's.
00:51:38
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Like I've heard, um, the other side of this, I heard like editors, like now AI is doing editing. And instead of taking hours and hours and hours, it's taking one person minutes.
00:51:56
notasoldasyou
 And I guess though, the, the push back to that as well. Now editors are going to be able to work well. yeah yeah you know like just like the guy who used to machine screws by hand he doesn't work that job doesn't exist anymore yeah right poor bill of the in the zoom factory he's lost his job you know even if we were trying to keep him employed just you know but it's just kind of the way it shakes and
00:52:12
Chris
 Right. Yeah. I mean, think about poor Bill down at the Zune factory. ah Yeah. Yeah, that's the way it shakes. Hmm. Hmm.
00:52:32
notasoldasyou
 While I have sympathy for someone who, you know, has spent their entire career doing this thing, you're kind of an idiot if you're not embracing the technology, right?
00:52:47
notasoldasyou
 Like if you're like, Oh, wow, I'm not going to do AI. I'm not going to do this. I'm going to be, I'm going to fight against it.
00:52:51
notasoldasyou
 And then you find yourself without a job, you know?
00:52:56
notasoldasyou
 My dad worked for the company that made the swipe things for credit cards. Remember the carbon copy swipe things?
00:53:04
notasoldasyou
 you know If he only stuck to that job, he would have had a job for about 10 years.
00:53:10
notasoldasyou
 right like You have the yeah have to move with technology.
00:53:13
Chris
 Wait, wait, you have to be able to grow and adapt in your life.
00:53:17
notasoldasyou
 yeah yeah it you know it's like the It's like the car manufacturer problem. right
00:53:25
notasoldasyou
 like robots were going to ruin car manufacturing jobs.
00:53:31
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. But instead of having a hundred employees, they only had to have 10 employees. Those 10 employees get paid a hell of a lot more money because they're more specialist and they have more skills.
00:53:43
notasoldasyou
 It's just kind of the way. This is just AI.
00:53:45
Chris
 Yeah. And that's also a ah safety issue because, you know, if the robot messes up, OK, it it hits another robot.
00:53:53
Chris
 It's not, you know, you know, Fred getting stuck in a conveyor belt or something.
00:53:54
notasoldasyou
 Right, yeah.
00:53:58
notasoldasyou
 yeah The art part of all of this is going to be the ideas.
00:54:03
notasoldasyou
 ah The lost jobs will be all of the people that were putting those ideas into place, right, I guess?
00:54:13
notasoldasyou
 But those people either adapt or die?
00:54:15
notasoldasyou
 I don't i don't know.
00:54:15
Chris
 Yeah. Well, I mean, in does it make.
00:54:20
Chris
 The. I don't know, human art, does it add value to that? You know, does it bring about a renaissance of that? Because here's people that use actual physical medium.
00:54:33
Chris
 And, you know, oh, this wasn't created by I could be this was, you know, Bill and his hands and he made this and or, you know, Jane sculpted this thing. I would to me, I would think this would be a reinvigoration of the actual.
00:54:48
Chris
 Physical stuff, I don't know.
00:54:48
notasoldasyou
 You're talking the wrong guys. Cause I think art is bullshit because I think having a copy of the Mona Lisa is just as good as having the Mona Lisa, right? Like, right.
00:54:57
Chris
 oh Oh yeah, look, I am not the art buff, but you know, for those niches, niches, niches, nachos, nachos.
00:55:01
notasoldasyou
 But like people keep the people clearly put value on that because otherwise there wouldn't be value in art, right?
00:55:10
notasoldasyou
 Because the Mona Lisa would be worth nothing if everybody valued it the same as the poster of the Mona Lisa.
00:55:15
Chris
 Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:55:17
notasoldasyou
 But to me, it's it's this, I wouldn't pay for the Mona Lisa, I would just buy the poster.
Technology Frustrations and Ethical Concerns
00:55:22
Chris
 Yeah. Or I'll take a screenshot of it and print it.
00:55:25
notasoldasyou
 Right, yeah, but that's just how I...
00:55:26
Chris
 which side change it to that real quick. Printers.
00:55:29
notasoldasyou
 They're terrible.
00:55:30
Chris
 Oh, my God. Christmas Day. We're printing out the tickets to go to Winterfest Delights. I print it prints. Tickets number two, three and four.
00:55:45
Chris
 Huh, that's interesting. So I hit reprint for ticket one and ticket one only. It finally prints it out after thinking about itself this morning.
00:55:58
Chris
 40 hours later, printer starts printing. I look at my wife, I said, what are you printing? I'm not printing anything. It's printing out tickets, two, three, and four. I hit cancel. Five minutes later, it's printing out tickets, two, three, and four. It did this four or five times. I finally turned it off and unplugged it.
00:56:18
notasoldasyou
 Look, if printers had teeth and legs, we'd all be screwed. So know I'm with you.
00:56:21
Chris
 oh hu Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, so.
00:56:24
notasoldasyou
 Printers are the evil. So there's another job that got and automated printing presses. You know, that used to be a job to typeset print.
00:56:32
notasoldasyou
 Like there was an art form to typesetting print form.
00:56:32
Chris
 Are you there? Oh no. We lost Whismur.
00:56:36
notasoldasyou
 That doesn't happen. There's no typesetters anymore.
00:56:39
notasoldasyou
 You know, nobody cries over the fact that people don't typeset. It's just part of the world.
00:56:44
Chris
 Well folks, this little period of pause is brought to you by AI, evidently, that heard us talking about it and got very mad and cut Ron off.
00:56:45
notasoldasyou
 You know, is that harsh? Sure. Is it true? Yes. Oh, I think we lost Chris or I lost Chris. Oh God.
00:56:57
Chris
 Well, in case Ron isn't able to come back, folks, Thank you very much for tuning in. We are.
00:57:03
Chris
 Oh, we're still having issues.
00:57:04
notasoldasyou
 He's offline. I'm offline.
00:57:05
Chris
 Oh, hey, there he's back.
00:57:06
notasoldasyou
 Who's offline? I lost internet.
00:57:10
Chris
 See, a AI heard us talking about it.
00:57:11
notasoldasyou
 Why'd I lose internet?
00:57:13
Chris
 um Yeah, I'd say it's oh, you know what it was.
00:57:18
Chris
 The printers heard us talking about it. And yeah, it's a little message to shut them down for a minute. Yeah.
00:57:31
notasoldasyou
 How do I reconnect?
00:57:33
Chris
 Yeah, there's a squirrel somewhere that's now fried.
00:57:35
notasoldasyou
 Whoa. My internet just dropped for some reason.
00:57:41
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, I was on AI's side though, don't punish me.
00:57:49
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, the printer's talking, yeah.
00:57:53
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, printer's evil.
00:57:58
notasoldasyou
 That was weird though. I never lose internet like that.
00:58:05
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, yeah, damn cat.
00:58:13
notasoldasyou
 But again, I'm just going to go back to my point that I was rambling on while the internet was down.
00:58:19
notasoldasyou
 i AI art to me is as valuable as other art.
00:58:26
notasoldasyou
 is it Now, I will draw the line and I think it is wrong, and I will always say it's wrong, to use someone's likeness or voice without compensation.
00:58:30
Chris
 Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. The voice actor part, I think is a huge issue.
00:58:42
notasoldasyou
 Right? Like if you, if Troy Baker, they have thousands of hours of Troy Baker's voice.
00:58:52
notasoldasyou
 Like you can plug Troy Baker into an AI program and make him say whatever you want without compensating Troy Baker.
00:59:01
notasoldasyou
 That's still his IP. His voice is his talent.
00:59:08
Chris
 Yeah, no, I agree with that.
00:59:12
notasoldasyou
 And and if if we were to get to that point, which we can, we will, you could take Tom Cruise and make Tom Cruise do anything without ever having Tom Cruise anywhere near your set.
00:59:25
notasoldasyou
 Now you're not trading on the AI, you're trading on the person's likeness or the person's talent, right? that is That's wrong.
00:59:37
notasoldasyou
 Right. And I think that's the thing that you have to watch out for, you know, but replacing people with AI.
00:59:44
notasoldasyou
 Unfortunately, that's just how the cookie crumbles. You know, I look at fires, fire service, right?
00:59:51
notasoldasyou
 Like look at our job in the fifties.
00:59:58
notasoldasyou
 You had to have big cities of LA and New York, and some of them have not adapted, but
01:00:05
notasoldasyou
 You know, you used to have a battalion would be 60 plus people for a three engine response because you had to have more people like there was, you had, there was no pre-connects, there was no hydrants the way they are now.
01:00:09
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Streamline.
01:00:20
notasoldasyou
 it just The way pumps operated, right?
Streamlining Firefighting and Future Job Changes
01:00:24
notasoldasyou
 And in, in, if there was a paid fire department in the 18 early 1800s, they would have had hundreds of people per piece.
01:00:31
notasoldasyou
 Cause you gotta have pump the wagons, you gotta have buckets, right?
01:00:35
notasoldasyou
 The, the, as technology improves, the fire department, it streamlines.
01:00:41
notasoldasyou
 It just has the way it is, you know, because that's how we're going to face the fire, our fire service is going to face.
01:00:51
notasoldasyou
 ah is facing a major staffing crisis. We're going to solve that through technology and streamlining operations.
01:00:59
Chris
 Right. Yeah. Well that end, yeah, the events of telehealth and things like that.
01:01:02
notasoldasyou
 That's just how it goes. you know Will there be less firefighting jobs in the future? Yeah, drones will probably take a lot of our job out of our hands.
01:01:13
notasoldasyou
 you know Will we need less doctors in the world? Probably.
01:01:18
notasoldasyou
 because what they're finding now is AI is better at diagnosing people than doctors are because it has all of the knowledge ready to go.
01:01:20
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. You're absolute.
01:01:34
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, telehealth, you know, will paramedics be the same as they are now, 10 years from now?
01:01:41
notasoldasyou
 No, there's no way.
01:01:43
notasoldasyou
 You know, we will be,
01:01:45
notasoldasyou
 the hands delivering what telehealth is telling us to do.
01:01:50
notasoldasyou
 right Doctors will become experts instead of service providers.
01:01:54
Chris
 Yeah. Well, I mean, think about, I don't know about you, but, you know,
01:01:55
notasoldasyou
 ah they'll be They'll be checking on the AI.
01:01:58
Chris
 If I've got to write something, you know, I'll go into co-pilot or chat GPT or something like that, be like, Hey, give me an idea, you know, for this and, you know, get that vague outline and go off of that, you know, use that as brainstorming and all.
01:01:59
notasoldasyou
 They'll be making sure the AI is not you know giving you the wrong medicine.
01:02:05
notasoldasyou
 But for the most part, you'll be relying on AI to say this is the medicine for this, this set of, you know, diagnostics. That's what they're doing now.
01:02:14
notasoldasyou
 That's like, that's where they're at. You know, pharmacists will basically become experts and not service providers, so which is cool.
01:02:31
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, when's the last time that somebody was going, you know, on a trip and looked and sat there with a map and was like, okay, one minute ago, you know, 40 miles on route one.
01:02:41
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, think think of the trained historian whose job will be to parse through research that AI pulls for them.
01:02:45
Chris
 And then, yeah, that, okay. I'm going to take that exit off of that. Or they punch in their GPS and it takes them.
01:02:51
notasoldasyou
 It's a different skill set, but it's this it's it's just how you're going to, that's how we're going to adapt to the world of AI.
01:02:52
Chris
 And during the transit, it says, Oh, we found a faster route for you. Or, Oh, there's something coming up. I mean, that's that's AI.
01:03:00
notasoldasyou
 And we have to adapt. no
01:03:12
Chris
 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Hmm.
01:03:29
notasoldasyou
 I'll take it a ah step, a step even more in our career, right?
01:03:35
notasoldasyou
 We started in a world of math books and memorization.
01:03:40
notasoldasyou
 People who drive for me now, they they are following AI, right?
01:03:48
notasoldasyou
 Like they're finding a program, a GPS program saying, this is the way to go.
01:03:51
notasoldasyou
 This is the fastest way to go. And and it's funny because the OneDrive always looks when he's like, should we go this way?
01:03:59
notasoldasyou
 I'm not smarter than that computer, right? Like every preconceived notion I have of how to get around is based on just my personal feelings and experience, you know, is my experience useless?
01:04:14
notasoldasyou
 But that thing probably has more up-to-date information on the status of the roads.
01:04:18
notasoldasyou
 You know, we get we can get to the point where it'll pull data from traffic cameras and, you know, telling you which way the fastest route is based on
01:04:29
notasoldasyou
 up to date traffic information.
01:04:32
notasoldasyou
 yeah what it
01:04:34
notasoldasyou
 We're dinosaurs staring at the asteroid going to hit us if we don't change.
01:04:37
Chris
 Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing.
01:04:38
notasoldasyou
 you know and
Technology in Dining and Order Efficiency
01:04:40
Chris
 Oh, you know, instead of, you know, having to tell the wait staff, oh, you know, you got to 86 the prime rib.
01:04:40
notasoldasyou
 That's all of us.
01:04:41
notasoldasyou
 Every career is going to be that way. you know Look at waiters now.
01:04:46
Chris
 You just click, click prime ribs off the menu for today.
01:04:47
notasoldasyou
 you know How many bar strands have gotten away from printing out menus? you know Because how much it's expensive. you got it Somebody's got to print the menu. When you want to change the menu, you have to reprint the menu.
01:04:59
notasoldasyou
 Somebody has to clean that menu.
01:05:02
notasoldasyou
 You just got rid of all of that.
01:05:03
notasoldasyou
 How much expense did you save your business?
01:05:07
notasoldasyou
 Then they can just.
01:05:14
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
01:05:15
notasoldasyou
 Right. hundred Right.
01:05:19
notasoldasyou
 And instead of a waiter that no offense to waiters get orders wrong.
01:05:20
Chris
 Yep. Yep. Just go ahead and ship me and let me know what I need to do.
01:05:25
notasoldasyou
 person gets to go in the app and say, this is what I want.
01:05:28
notasoldasyou
 I don't want this.
01:05:29
notasoldasyou
 I want this, you know, it's just, it's the future, man.
01:05:32
Chris
 Seems very cold and sticky.
01:05:35
notasoldasyou
 It's just here.
01:05:38
Chris
 So when they woke up, were their fingertips and toes wrinkly?
01:05:41
notasoldasyou
 It's, uh, citing and scary at the same time. I look forward to my robot after overlords.
01:05:47
Chris
 Pruny, because they've been in that fluid for so long?
01:05:48
notasoldasyou
 They can go take over my job.
Body Quirks and Adaptations
01:05:52
Chris
 Yeah, so let's say if it's isotonic, hypertonic, hypotonic.
01:05:53
notasoldasyou
 Yep. Put me in the matrix Yeah, well you all know your brain won't know depends what the fluid is
01:05:57
Chris
 yeah If it's isotonic with you, then yeah, but but Isn't that the thing, though? Your body only does that to your hands and feet for grip. So wouldn't your body sense that it's wet and want to do that anyway? Oh, no. ah Yeah, I guess that's true, then. Yeah, you wouldn't have any reason to do that. Yeah, yeah.
01:06:24
notasoldasyou
 Right. If it's like a neutral, right.
01:06:27
notasoldasyou
 but doesn't thank Yeah.
Holiday Wishes and Seasonal Reflections
01:06:34
Chris
 Well, folks, I hope everybody had a yeah good holiday season. And if yours is just kicking off because yesterday was first day of Kwanzaa and Hanukkah. I'm happy you're having a great time of it and safe New Year's.
01:06:44
notasoldasyou
 But if your brain's being tricked to thinking you're not wet.
01:06:49
notasoldasyou
 Right. You wouldn't do it.
01:06:51
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:54
Chris
 Yeah, as we're technically on the third day of Christmas or today, three French hands.
01:06:55
notasoldasyou
 <unk> on We're on the matrix right now. Do you feel wet? You're
01:07:02
Chris
 I thought I'd start it on Christmas Day. Okay, so today's the second. So I see you'll get your three French hands. I'll get my two triple doves. Can't wait.
01:07:15
notasoldasyou
 Yeah. I hope your Yule is burning its log or whatever it is you do.
01:07:18
Chris
 Okay. All right. So, but, uh, yeah, have a ah great start to 2025 folks.
01:07:23
notasoldasyou
 Don't be dumb.
01:07:28
notasoldasyou
 No, tomorrow is the third day of Christmas.
01:07:29
Chris
 Yes. Take care, folks.
01:07:33
notasoldasyou
 No, it starts on the That's correct.
01:07:45
notasoldasyou
 The 12th day is January 6th.
01:07:53
notasoldasyou
 Yeah, sorry you you're off with becoming an expert in something that AI can't take away from you.