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Fitness and Gaming hooks

S2 E108 · Mythic Giraffe Podcast
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Welcome back! This week, after the rigamarole (wind, cars, biking). Ron asks why we still use antiquated fitness assessments like the body mass indicator (BMI); Chris started Dragon Age: The Veilguard and it just hasn’t gotten him hooked. As always please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!

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Introduction and Weather Chat

00:00:07
Chris
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe Podcast. I'm Chris.
00:00:10
stupidwind
And I'm a windblown Ron.
00:00:16
Chris
Yeah, why? I don't understand why we're getting so much wind.
00:00:20
stupidwind
ah It feels like it's been just straight months of wind at this point.
00:00:25
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:00:26
stupidwind
Just wind.
00:00:28
Chris
Yeah. And it's...
00:00:29
stupidwind
Not even rain, just wind.
00:00:32
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:00:32
stupidwind
It's crazy.
00:00:33
Chris
And it's not like a breeze. It's like... 20, 30 mile an hour wind. Yeah.
00:00:38
stupidwind
Yeah. Where my corner, I think i've already already said this before, but the corner where I turn to go into my gym is like a wind tunnel.
00:00:48
Chris
Oh, nice.
00:00:49
stupidwind
And it's like, hold on to everything you got because you're going hit this wind.
00:00:55
Chris
But then when you leave the gym, it helps get you to your vehicle faster.
00:00:59
stupidwind
It's true, and when you're sweaty, it dries you off.
00:01:01
Chris
Yeah,
00:01:01
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:01:01
Chris
yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't get it. i I guess the trees are sneezing a lot. I don't know.
00:01:09
stupidwind
I don't know. This year has felt because it felt like we didn't really have fall.
00:01:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:16
stupidwind
So I just feel like it's been cold and windy and desolate for like six months.
00:01:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:22
Chris
And that's the thing. i Yeah, I can deal with a cold, but not when there's a cold wind.
00:01:22
stupidwind
And I'm ready for warm.
00:01:28
stupidwind
Yeah, no yeah, yeah.
00:01:30
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:33
stupidwind
I'm ready for spring to actually sprung.

Daylight Saving Time Frustrations

00:01:36
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:01:37
stupidwind
You know, course.
00:01:38
Chris
Well, I mean, tomorrow we get to spring forward.
00:01:40
stupidwind
Yeah, well aware.
00:01:41
Chris
Which i I guess my body has been like ready for that. I've been waking up at 5 o'clock for the last like two weeks, three weeks. Yeah.
00:01:51
stupidwind
get wake up at 2 o'clock this morning to go to work.
00:01:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:01:56
stupidwind
Stupid sea ship getting their extra hour sleep.
00:02:00
Chris
No.
00:02:01
stupidwind
Oh, I'm sorry. Stupid sea ship getting off work early.
00:02:02
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:04
stupidwind
Yeah. Stupid stale-yed-siving sign.
00:02:08
Chris
Yeah, it's. Mm
00:02:10
stupidwind
I don't even understand why we have to spring forward. It's 7.30 in the morning right now.
00:02:15
Chris
hmm.
00:02:15
stupidwind
It's perfectly sunny out.
00:02:17
Chris
Yeah.
00:02:18
stupidwind
what what I don't understand it anymore.
00:02:21
Chris
It's because it's an antiquated thing that nobody will get rid of.
00:02:24
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:02:27
stupidwind
Get rid of it.
00:02:30
stupidwind
It's got to be my last year having to do it. it
00:02:32
Chris
Yeah,
00:02:33
stupidwind
Right?
00:02:33
Chris
you would think with everything else going on, I'd think this is a lower priority.
00:02:38
stupidwind
That's fair.
00:02:39
Chris
Hmm.
00:02:40
stupidwind
That's fair.
00:02:41
Chris
Yeah.

National Fire Academy and Firefighter Grant Issues

00:02:42
stupidwind
I just tell all of the people that were supposed to come to the National Fire Academy this week that they can't come because school's closed.
00:02:47
Chris
Oh my gosh. That's crazy. Yeah. And I just sent that thing out yesterday that was like, Hey, there's some vacancies in this.
00:02:53
stupidwind
I...
00:02:54
Chris
Nevermind.
00:02:55
stupidwind
It's funny that you said that because you sent that out and I'm like, is he trolling us because I just saw an article saying they're closing the fire academy.
00:03:04
Chris
No, I hadn't seen that on social media yet. So.
00:03:07
stupidwind
Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:09
Chris
yeah
00:03:10
stupidwind
It's all good. It's all. It's fine.
00:03:12
Chris
Yeah, yeah, it'll work out. Yeah, sure.
00:03:14
stupidwind
It's fine.
00:03:15
Chris
Yeah. State parks, who needs them? Or I mean, national parks.
00:03:18
stupidwind
That's the parks.
00:03:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:20
stupidwind
One of the jewels of the American people, but that's fine.
00:03:23
Chris
Yeah. But I don't
00:03:25
stupidwind
I just, I keep looking at all the firefighters I know who voted this way. i keep saying, is this what you voted for?
00:03:30
Chris
know.
00:03:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:03:34
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:34
stupidwind
is this what you're pro?
00:03:38
stupidwind
Your department relies on SAFER and AFG grants. Those have been not canceled, just indefinitely put on hold.
00:03:47
Chris
Yes. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. That's like I try to stay as apolitical as possible, but.
00:03:58
stupidwind
It's so hard when it's now affecting you at work.
00:04:02
Chris
Yeah.
00:04:02
stupidwind
Right? Like, and, and I tell my wife because she doesn't have to really talk to those people anymore.
00:04:02
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:04:11
Chris
Mm hmm.
00:04:12
stupidwind
I'm like, it's, it's a challenge, but if I had to work on day work, I couldn't do it.
00:04:15
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:04:18
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:04:18
stupidwind
If I was around those people five days a week, I would, uh, go postal.
00:04:23
stupidwind
couldn't I couldn't handle it.
00:04:25
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:04:26
stupidwind
It's, it's, it's,
00:04:27
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:04:29
stupidwind
At this point, it's willful ignorance. Right? It's...
00:04:31
Chris
Yes. Yeah, it is.
00:04:32
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:04:33
Chris
It is. It's most certainly the ostrich with the head in the sand. Mm-hmm.
00:04:38
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:04:41
Chris
But on a lighter note, I think I've noticed that there's 8,000 new idiots with historic plates on their vehicles that don't have to follow any guidelines.
00:04:49
stupidwind
Oh!
00:04:53
Chris
I but just, I don't understand it.
00:04:58
stupidwind
See, Delaware doesn't have historic plates, but apparently if your car hits 25 years old, you no longer have to have it inspected, which seems the wrong way.
00:05:06
Chris
see that the inverse Yeah, seemed like if your car is less than 10 years old or five years old, whatever, yeah we you don't need to get an annual inspection.
00:05:10
stupidwind
Right.
00:05:18
Chris
But yeah, after that is when you should. ah Yeah, just because you have a 2000 GMC Suburban or whatever, you know, that does it.
00:05:22
stupidwind
So I think think the way it works...
00:05:31
stupidwind
Yeah, we should check your brakes.
00:05:33
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:34
Chris
And you're exhausted.
00:05:34
stupidwind
because
00:05:35
stupidwind
Delaware inspection is pretty easy. it's Does your brakes work?
00:05:39
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:40
stupidwind
Does the horn work?
00:05:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:41
stupidwind
Does lights work? Does the blinkers work? And is your exhaust hooked up correctly?
00:05:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:05:46
stupidwind
That's all they're really looking for? I'm sure there's other things beyond that, but those seem important.
00:05:48
Chris
Right.
00:05:53
stupidwind
it's ah To not have them inspected.
00:05:53
Chris
Yeah. yeah those are Yeah. Those are all valid safety things.
00:05:58
stupidwind
Because think they give you five years on your initial purchase.
00:05:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:01
stupidwind
Like my my new car, I think you get five years.
00:06:02
Chris
yeah Okay. Yeah.
00:06:05
stupidwind
And then it's biannually after that.
00:06:08
Chris
yeah
00:06:09
stupidwind
But it's crazy that after 25 years, you're like, nah, just give us the money.
00:06:10
Chris
yeah
00:06:14
stupidwind
You don't have to have it inspected.
00:06:14
Chris
Hmm. Yeah.

Parking Laws and Speed Cameras

00:06:15
Chris
Well, my whole thing in Maryland, the historic, it's supposed to be like you tag it historic so you can drive it to and from car shows and on like Sundays or something like that.
00:06:28
stupidwind
Right.
00:06:28
Chris
No one follows that. And I get police are busy and everything, but maybe we hire one more cop per district to just enforce that.
00:06:37
stupidwind
Well, it's like the fire lane thing, right?
00:06:38
Chris
Hmm. Hmm.
00:06:39
Chris
Hmm.
00:06:39
stupidwind
You could hire a cop to just enforce fire liens, and they would pay for their job 30 times over every week.
00:06:49
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:06:49
stupidwind
You know. Easily.
00:06:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:53
stupidwind
yeah man And cops just don't do it.
00:06:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:06:57
stupidwind
dry Somebody must have said something to the food line in that we go to, because they were cracking down on people for a little while there.
00:07:02
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:07:05
Chris
Good. Good.
00:07:06
stupidwind
Because that place was... but mean You'd go up there and there'd be five, six cars parked in the fire
00:07:09
Chris
Yep.
00:07:12
Chris
Yeah. I guess I just don't get why... I don't know. Maybe... I'm too nice of a person, good of a person, but I don't willfully break laws.
00:07:22
stupidwind
lane.
00:07:22
Chris
Even stupid ones, I still follow it.
00:07:26
stupidwind
I've gotten one fire lane ticket in my life. it was my It was my fault, but... It was move-in day in college. I was moving some stuff. I literally like grabbed a really heavy thing, moved it because my my parking lot, for you know because college parking lots are never close to your dorm.
00:07:45
Chris
Right.
00:07:46
stupidwind
It's two miles away. Took it in my dorm, come out, parking lot. I'm like, all right, you got me.
00:07:51
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And i mean, that's surprising because a lot of times for like move in, move out days, they kind of wave that.
00:07:58
stupidwind
So they do if you move in on regular move-in day. But I did early move-in.
00:08:01
Chris
Oh, okay.
00:08:04
stupidwind
They didn't do it.
00:08:08
stupidwind
But I wouldn't ever otherwise do it. and know that's not excuse. I did it. I paid the ticket. you know And I don't do it ever again.
00:08:15
Chris
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:08:18
stupidwind
You just...
00:08:19
Chris
It's like the people that get upset about the um the speed cameras.
00:08:23
stupidwind
Right, there's no speed.
00:08:24
Chris
Yeah. yeah it's
00:08:25
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:08:26
Chris
it's It's an easy thing.
00:08:26
stupidwind
One of... One of my firefighters said to me the other day, yeah, they got me again at the speed camera they always get me at. And I said, that means speed cameras don't work.
00:08:34
Chris
All
00:08:37
stupidwind
and That person was like, yeah, well, it works.
00:08:38
Chris
right.
00:08:40
stupidwind
It caught me. I'm like, yeah, but it's not changing the behavior.
00:08:44
Chris
yeah
00:08:45
stupidwind
You just pay the 40 bucks and move on because you're like, whatever.
00:08:47
Chris
right
00:08:48
stupidwind
Something's not right.
00:08:50
Chris
yeah I got news for you. I could use that 40 bucks somewhere else.
00:08:53
stupidwind
Sure.
00:08:56
stupidwind
And I imagine, because what, you have to go 7 over or 12 over? know, you didn't get there that much faster to wherever you were going.
00:09:01
Chris
12, I think.
00:09:04
Chris
Right. Yeah, I mean, it's been proven that, yeah, yeah, unless you're yeah going 60 in a 30, you're not changing your arrival time, which is, folks, that is not ah encouragement to go 60 in 30.
00:09:14
stupidwind
Right. Yeah.
00:09:18
stupidwind
Yeah. Let's go do that.
00:09:22
Chris
But yeah, I don't, I don't get it. just don't.
00:09:27
stupidwind
I have a good friend who thinks on the grim reaper because we were driving somewhere separately. And we just happened to like eat up on the road to this place at the same.
00:09:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:38
stupidwind
And he just like sped past me and I got there and i was like, Hey, you really, you drive like that all the time?
00:09:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:09:43
stupidwind
And he's like, what you mean? I'm like, i mean, you were doing ah good 10, 15 miles an hour over the speed limit. He's like, well, you know, that's just how I drive. I'm like, okay. I mean, it's not what I would do.
00:09:55
stupidwind
then he like, he, he like, Didn't say anything. And like two weeks later, he's like, you know, you told me about my speeding and I really thought about why you were telling me about speeding. And with your job, I decided I'm not going to speed anymore.
00:10:08
stupidwind
I'm like, oh, okay, that's good.
00:10:10
Chris
Wow, that's, man, you made an impact.
00:10:13
stupidwind
Yeah, because you can, there's a reason the speed limit, some speed limits are asinine, but there's a reason they are what they are.
00:10:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:22
Chris
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:10:25
stupidwind
It's like the school on Route 9. What's that, George Sussex Tech or whatever?
00:10:29
Chris
Oh,

Driving Distractions and Technology

00:10:30
Chris
yeah, yeah.
00:10:32
stupidwind
That's a 50 mile an hour road that you're going to try to take down to a 25.
00:10:34
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:10:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:38
stupidwind
It's never going to work.
00:10:42
Chris
Yeah, they should have just put the school like further back off the road and had a connector to it.
00:10:47
stupidwind
That or you put up the, hey, school buses are coming out now it's a 25 mile an hour zone. Something.
00:10:54
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:54
stupidwind
But The way they got it is crazy. Because no one's going to follow it.
00:10:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:10:59
stupidwind
It's actually, i think, illegal.
00:11:02
Chris
Well, and the problem is, you know, with everybody has to go through Georgetown to go anywhere in Delaware.
00:11:02
stupidwind
Because in Delaware...
00:11:08
Chris
So, mean, it's a very busy road.
00:11:10
stupidwind
It's true. It's a busy road.
00:11:14
Chris
yeah
00:11:14
stupidwind
It is. It's...
00:11:16
Chris
And I got news for you. People are lucky that I don't have my harpoon gun because the number of the big thing and is the texting or like as soon as you get to a stop sign or stoplight, people are like pulling out their phone or like scrolling through their phone on their dash.
00:11:31
Chris
I'm getting to the point I'm going to start yelling and like I'm going to get shot.
00:11:35
stupidwind
Just need an EMP or something.
00:11:37
Chris
yeah God, something. And maybe it was, well, you know, it's the kids. No, it's all these middle-aged and like, like grownups, like in their fifties, I see they're doing this. I'm like, what the hell is wrong with you?
00:11:52
Chris
Would you stop at a stoplight, pull out a book and just start reading?
00:11:52
stupidwind
Yes.
00:11:56
stupidwind
I have done that before.
00:11:57
Chris
Oh my God.
00:12:00
Chris
Hmm.
00:12:01
stupidwind
You ever had a little book read? Why? You ever been like really into a book and like, oh man, I don't want put this book down, but I got to drive.
00:12:04
Chris
no
00:12:10
Chris
no No.
00:12:12
stupidwind
Oh.
00:12:13
Chris
if I'm driving, I'm focusing on the road. God, I'm operating a, you know, half ton, ton piece of machinery that could kill me and or anyone else. Yeah, I'm going to try to pay attention.
00:12:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:29
stupidwind
It's fair. fair.
00:12:32
stupidwind
I do enjoy my new car now because looks like I listen to podcasts more than I listen to the radio.
00:12:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:12:38
stupidwind
Like who listens to the radio?
00:12:39
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:12:40
stupidwind
And on my old car, like if you wanted to change, you know, the podcast, you had to like pull your phone out to change it.
00:12:40
Chris
i
00:12:46
Chris
Oh.
00:12:46
stupidwind
Now as I can, it's all touchscreen on um the dash, which is much safer.
00:12:49
Chris
Nice.
00:12:52
Chris
Yes. Yes. And you're living in the future.
00:12:55
stupidwind
I could skip all the 30,000
00:12:59
Chris
yeah The Jeep does not afford me that. I can skip ahead like 10 seconds, I think it is. So I have to sit there and like 10, 10, 10, 10. Yeah.
00:13:07
stupidwind
Oh yeah, same thing I gotta do. 10, 10, 10, but I can just do it.
00:13:10
Chris
yeah But mine, it's turning the tune knob to do it, I think. I don't know. Yeah.
00:13:16
stupidwind
You probably also don't do it as often as I do because you drive seven minutes to work.
00:13:20
Chris
Yeah. 15 take.
00:13:25
stupidwind
Okay. I drive two hours.
00:13:28
Chris
But when I drive to college park to pick my daughter up or I go to Baltimore for a meeting.
00:13:31
stupidwind
That's fair. That's fair.
00:13:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:13:36
stupidwind
We only have to do that for another year, right? Because then she have her car
00:13:39
Chris
Yes.
00:13:41
stupidwind
car.
00:13:42
Chris
Yes. Yeah.
00:13:44
stupidwind
That's such a weird campus to not have a car on to.
00:13:48
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:13:50
stupidwind
Because there's really nothing around that that you want your kids walking to.
00:13:55
Chris
so where her dorm is she had a trader joe's like half a mile away yeah so yeah yeah yeah
00:14:01
stupidwind
Okay.
00:14:03
stupidwind
That's not nothing. I think that might be new from the last time i haven't been a college in forever. be fair It's not like, it's not the most pedestrian friendly of campuses.
00:14:14
Chris
no no it is not and all the people on the little scooters everywhere god are they supposed what rule are they supposed to follow because i know they follow none
00:14:26
Chris
They'll zip down the road. They'll zip through the pedestrian. crush Stoplight doesn't apply to them. so Through they go.
00:14:26
stupidwind
I think there's supposed to be
00:14:34
stupidwind
I think they should be like bikes, I'm assuming.
00:14:36
Chris
You would think.
00:14:38
stupidwind
so To be fair, okay as a bike a bicyclist, I have to like modify the rules of the road just for my own survival.
00:14:38
Chris
Or when they have two people on them. oh Yeah.
00:14:46
Chris
Yes.
00:14:47
stupidwind
you know
00:14:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:14:49
stupidwind
There are times you have to get up on the sidewalk. I don't like doing it, but it's either that or face death.
00:14:52
Chris
Yeah. Right.
00:14:56
Chris
Yeah, yeah.

Navigating Campus and Neighborhood Infrastructure

00:15:00
stupidwind
You can't trust people to not hit you.
00:15:02
Chris
Yeah. But going on the sidewalk shouldn't be as big an issue because the people should be walking towards you so they can see you coming.
00:15:09
stupidwind
They should. They should.
00:15:13
stupidwind
It's also...
00:15:14
Chris
And cross crosswalks, who needs those? just just Just cross wherever the hell you want.
00:15:19
stupidwind
If that doesn't bother me, it doesn't bother as much as the people that just like walk next to the sidewalk.
00:15:19
Chris
Stand in middle of 13? Yeah, sure. That's fine.
00:15:26
Chris
Yes. Oh, my gosh.
00:15:28
stupidwind
Like the sidewalk's three feet from you. to Just get on the sidewalk.
00:15:30
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And I can see walking beside the sidewalk if, like, the sidewalk goes in front of a house that has this, you know, fenced-in yard that they have this snarling werebeast in it.
00:15:33
stupidwind
I'm surprised...
00:15:43
stupidwind
Sure.
00:15:45
Chris
But then get back on the sidewalk when you get past that yard.
00:15:46
stupidwind
Right.
00:15:48
Chris
Hmm.
00:15:48
stupidwind
I'm surprised that we don't have more problems on Shoemaker because there's no sidewalk down that road, which is nuts.
00:15:55
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Well, cause when Shoemaker, yeah. When they first put that road in, there was nothing.
00:16:04
stupidwind
Sure.
00:16:04
Chris
And then as they've developed, they haven't back filled with, you know, utilities.
00:16:09
stupidwind
i mean, again, I'm not a structural engineer, but it can't be that hard to put a sidewalk in.
00:16:14
Chris
Oh,
00:16:16
stupidwind
And
00:16:17
Chris
you dig a little trough and you put some stone down and some rebar and concrete and you're done.
00:16:22
stupidwind
you get a lot of people on that route.
00:16:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:29
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:30
stupidwind
When you're mayor of the city you don't live in, somehow you become mayor. The
00:16:34
Chris
yeah Oh my gosh.
00:16:38
stupidwind
sidewalks are right.
00:16:39
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Sidewalks for all.
00:16:44
Chris
What's like in our neighborhood, there are sidewalks everywhere except for this one lot. There is like a stretch of 75 feet with no sidewalk.
00:16:55
stupidwind
Huh.
00:16:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:16:57
stupidwind
That's weird.
00:16:57
Chris
That's it. Yeah. They're like, well, nobody built a house there, so we don't have to put a sidewalk there. It's like there's sidewalks leading to and from it. It's just. <unk>
00:17:10
stupidwind
They had a industrial development down on one of the back roads behind me. And they decided to put a bike path in.
00:17:18
Chris
Nice.
00:17:18
stupidwind
was like, oh, that's really cool. They're going to take a bike path and run it all the way. No.
00:17:21
Chris
No.
00:17:22
stupidwind
They ran it. from the front of their property to the end of their property.
00:17:26
Chris
This just a little loop you could do.
00:17:28
stupidwind
It doesn't know it's even a loop, it's just one straight line. i was like What was the point of that?
00:17:39
Chris
oh Yeah.
00:17:39
stupidwind
Maybe they they're hoping somebody else is gonna just like, oh, there's a bike path, let's finish it out.
00:17:45
stupidwind
Hey.
00:17:47
Chris
it's like with this wind, we've had some nicer days, but I haven't wanted to bike because of the wind.
00:17:50
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:17:53
stupidwind
No, not doing it.
00:17:55
Chris
Yeah.
00:17:56
stupidwind
Not when it's cold or windy.
00:17:56
Chris
It's no, no, I am a fair weather biker.
00:17:58
stupidwind
You know, I also am a fair weather biker.
00:18:00
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:03
stupidwind
I'm not getting dressed up in 38 pounds of Gore-Tex material just so can ride around on my bike.
00:18:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:18:10
stupidwind
It's not worth it to me. I want to be outside, barely barely covered, just a thong and my helmet.
00:18:13
Chris
Yeah. yeah yeah Does it bother you when you pass somebody on a bike that,
00:18:27
Chris
they're like you know pedaling you can tell they're in the wrong gear do you just want to yell out just upshift
00:18:31
stupidwind
Oh, yeah.
00:18:34
stupidwind
That drives me nuts. And then the ones that are totally not sized correctly on the bike, you can tell like they're doing with them the bow legs out.
00:18:39
Chris
yeah yeah yeah yeah or when they're going against traffic without a helmet
00:18:43
stupidwind
I'm like, come on, man. Put your seat post up. Yeah. It bothers me.
00:18:57
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:18:57
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:57
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:19:00
stupidwind
You know, it's weird that I, it's the Netherlands, right? and the Netherlands is like the most bike friendly country in the world.
00:19:07
Chris
Makes sense.
00:19:08
stupidwind
um And they don't wear helmets. And they actually did a study that helmets make their bikers less safe.
00:19:12
Chris
Really?
00:19:18
Chris
Oh, because it's like they have that safety net that, oh, well, if I crash, I have a helmet.
00:19:23
stupidwind
Well, it's that, and they said that it dehumanizes the rider. so people are less afraid to hit it.
00:19:29
Chris
Okay.
00:19:31
stupidwind
I don't know. It's weird. It's a weird conclusion.
00:19:34
Chris
ah Because I know when I'm out driving around, when I see someone, a cyclist with a helmet on, I'm like, there's a target.
00:19:42
stupidwind
exactly.
00:19:42
Chris
If I see him without a helmet, I'm like, oh no, I can't hit that guy.
00:19:45
stupidwind
Right, that guy's, that's gots Bob. Oh, that's Bob.
00:19:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:48
stupidwind
That's an insect. I don't know.
00:19:49
Chris
Yeah.
00:19:50
stupidwind
it's Yeah, it's weird.
00:19:53
Chris
That's, that's interesting.
00:19:55
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:19:56
Chris
Hmm.
00:19:57
stupidwind
But they also probably, it's probably like a skewed study because if your country is bike friendly, probably people are more apt to follow bike friendly laws.
00:20:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:20:06
stupidwind
you know There's probably more bike paths.
00:20:07
Chris
Right.
00:20:11
stupidwind
We have to, we mad max it every time we get on our bikes.
00:20:15
Chris
Oh, yeah, it's it's definitely,
00:20:20
Chris
you know, taking your life in your own hands sometimes.
00:20:24
stupidwind
Let's hope you can get to your destination.
00:20:26
Chris
Yeah, let's say, you know, we'll sometimes go to out to eat in Snow Hill and we cut It's lovely from Fruitland. I can cut this little back way. And, you know, we're going along there the other night. I'm you talking to my wife. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's where I ride my bike sometimes. And she's like, you ride your bike down here? Yeah.
00:20:45
Chris
She's like, these people are maniacs because see there's no lines on the road. It's barely one step up from gravel. It's that like, you know, kind of tar chip. It's not an actual pavement feels like there's no shoulder.
00:20:55
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:20:59
Chris
i was like, yeah. I said, I just ah put my noise canceling on and pray.
00:21:03
stupidwind
Then pray. I just figure if they hit me, they hit me hard enough that I don't wake up.
00:21:10
Chris
No, i I don't turn the noise canceling on because I do want to hear the cars so I can hold my breath and close my eyes as they zip past me.
00:21:19
stupidwind
I don't ride my bike anymore because the one time I did it, my seat collapsed.
00:21:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:21:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:25
stupidwind
I'd be picking up like ah like ah like a 12 year old.
00:21:25
Chris
yeah
00:21:27
Chris
yeah Yeah.
00:21:31
stupidwind
That was a good ways out there too.
00:21:33
Chris
Yes, you were.
00:21:34
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:21:34
Chris
Yes, you were. But yeah.
00:21:37
stupidwind
Nope, I know.

Fitness Journeys and BMI Critique

00:21:41
stupidwind
Well, that's kind of leads into topic one, so let's go to topic one.
00:21:44
Chris
OK. Yeah.
00:21:47
stupidwind
So, you know, I've been on this fitness journey, and part of my fitness journey is I do the resistance-based measurements, you know, where they do the electrical current through your body.
00:21:51
Chris
Mm hmm.
00:22:01
Chris
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't do those.
00:22:03
stupidwind
And can't do them.
00:22:06
Chris
Now, I see where I have that weird electrical charge. It throws it off.
00:22:12
stupidwind
oh
00:22:13
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Like, it's it shows it, like, way higher than it's supposed to be conducting through me.
00:22:23
stupidwind
yeah
00:22:24
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:25
stupidwind
That's weird.
00:22:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:27
stupidwind
But okay um but anyways, I did mine because I'm a normal person. I'm not electro.
00:22:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:37
stupidwind
And, ah you know, it has your BMI on there. So I was looking at my BMI, and I keep getting told by people, oh, don't work at BMI, which then don't put it on things.
00:22:47
Chris
Yeah.
00:22:50
Chris
Right, exactly. Yeah, if I'm not supposed to look at it, don't put it there.
00:22:53
stupidwind
So my BMI to be in the good range would be 138 to 186. I did the math. to To meet the high level of BMI, I would have to be negative 10% body fat
00:23:07
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:10
Chris
Holy crap.
00:23:11
stupidwind
yeah So if I lost all of the body fat in my body and 10% more, i would reach my BMI.
00:23:19
Chris
How do you do that? Do you get your dog to lose weight?
00:23:22
stupidwind
I don't know. That's what I'm wondering. but How do I...
00:23:26
Chris
ah
00:23:27
stupidwind
Yeah,
00:23:27
Chris
t Do you have to shrink? Do you have to grow taller? I don't.
00:23:32
stupidwind
yeah i don't I don't know.
00:23:33
Chris
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
00:23:35
stupidwind
it's It's insane. But I remember...
00:23:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:39
stupidwind
when I was young, I mean 20, maybe 19, 20, I must've been 20.
00:23:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:23:46
stupidwind
I was in college still.
00:23:49
stupidwind
And I went to talk to the air force. I was going to go and air force.
00:23:52
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, so was i
00:23:54
stupidwind
They wouldn't take, they wouldn't take me because my BMI was too high.
00:23:57
Chris
Really?
00:23:58
stupidwind
And the guy's like, Oh, it's not a big deal. You got to tape out. Cause you're six foot and blah, blah, blah. And and it ever since then has played. And I was fairly good shape, better shape than I would say now
00:24:08
Chris
yeah Yeah, it's you're playing football and stuff.
00:24:10
stupidwind
So, i was you know, I was in better shape. than i And he's like, hey, yeah so why do we use this thing that's useless?
00:24:16
Chris
Yeah. ah it a
00:24:22
Chris
Because someone one time did a study and showed that it had a positive outcome.
00:24:22
stupidwind
biden Well,
00:24:30
Chris
So then they apply it to everyone.
00:24:31
stupidwind
negative 10% body fat is bad, right? Right, you're supposed be
00:24:36
Chris
Yeah, that's yeah Yeah. Your body needs some fat.
00:24:38
stupidwind
but you're supposed to be I've seen numbers from us at our age, 13 to 24% body fat is healthy.
00:24:47
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:24:49
stupidwind
So, you know, zero is bad, right?
00:24:54
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:55
stupidwind
You need some visceral fat to protect your organs and stuff.
00:24:56
Chris
Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you look at like actors and stuff like that, like ah but it look at Hugh Jackman, when he, Deadpool and Wolverine, I think he got down to like 3% fat for,
00:25:11
Chris
for some of those shots and, you know, dehydrates himself for a day just so you can look like that. But it's that's not healthy.
00:25:18
stupidwind
Right.
00:25:19
Chris
You can't live that every day.
00:25:21
stupidwind
You cannot live like that. Probably shouldn't do it to you ever.
00:25:25
Chris
no. Yeah.
00:25:26
stupidwind
like Like, that's the whole bodybuilding thing.
00:25:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:29
stupidwind
like It's weird that all these bodybuilders die at very young ages and you know have really fucked up old ages if they do survive.
00:25:33
Chris
yeah
00:25:37
stupidwind
you know What's going on there? Oh.
00:25:42
stupidwind
but Causation and correlation i mean is all I can say.
00:25:44
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:45
stupidwind
But it just, it drives me nuts to, like, why we haven't, because I talked to my doctor about it.
00:25:48
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:50
stupidwind
And she's like, oh, yeah, we don't use BMI.
00:25:52
Chris
Yeah.
00:25:55
stupidwind
Well, we do. It's everywhere.
00:25:57
Chris
um So do you know when the formula for BMI was created?
00:26:02
stupidwind
guess, like, 1941. Oh,
00:26:07
Chris
ah It was the mid 19th century.
00:26:10
stupidwind
oh okay.
00:26:11
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:12
stupidwind
So since then, we haven't come up with a better system.
00:26:14
Chris
yeah Yeah. Yeah. And just a quick search says, yes, the BMI is considered very outdated. It does not account for body composition, age, ethnicity, overestimates health risks in certain groups, does not reflect metabolic health, can be stigmatizing. Yeah.
00:26:30
Chris
Yeah. It's convenient and easy to calculate. It's not reliable or accurate for your indicator of health. Waist circumference, body fat percentage, metabolic health assessments are all more accurate assessments for health risks.
00:26:43
stupidwind
But we don't do those things.
00:26:44
Chris
I hate
00:26:46
stupidwind
but When's the last time you went to your doctor and they did a metabolic assessment?
00:26:46
Chris
well
00:26:52
Chris
i mean, is that just like your metabolic panel?
00:26:56
stupidwind
No, I assume it's got to be your basal caloric rate and all that stuff.
00:27:01
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, no, never.
00:27:03
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:27:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:04
stupidwind
Like I'm doing this all along.
00:27:04
Chris
Probably the closest assessment would be the bod pod stuff we did last year.
00:27:09
stupidwind
Right? Closest.
00:27:10
Chris
Yeah. And then if we start using these self-assessments with the waist, hip measures and stuff.
00:27:11
stupidwind
And
00:27:17
stupidwind
Yeah, we but we're not...
00:27:18
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:20
stupidwind
Like, you don't do that with your doctor.
00:27:22
Chris
No, no. Did you ever have a doctor do the calipers to test your BMI?
00:27:23
stupidwind
Which is...
00:27:26
stupidwind
No, I never had that either.
00:27:27
Chris
Oh my God, the skin pull. Yeah.
00:27:29
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:27:30
Chris
was yeah, some people might be like a Sharpay and have extra skin.
00:27:30
stupidwind
Well, I remember...
00:27:34
stupidwind
It's true. And there was the one where you like floated in a tank.
00:27:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:38
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:27:39
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, the displacement tank to see.
00:27:39
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:27:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:27:41
stupidwind
Yeah. Never did that one either.
00:27:43
Chris
No. i I did that in the bathtub myself, just for fun.
00:27:48
stupidwind
It just drives me nuts that we don't have...
00:27:49
Chris
You never did that you know when you drew a bath and you drew a line on the side, and then you got in to see how much water went up.
00:27:55
stupidwind
No, I'm not a battleship.
00:27:57
Chris
I do that all the time.
00:27:58
stupidwind
Oh, okay.
00:27:59
Chris
My wife wonders why there's Sharpie marks on the side of the bathtub.
00:28:01
stupidwind
Is it getting better or worse?
00:28:03
Chris
I have no idea.
00:28:04
stupidwind
Did I collate the data?
00:28:05
Chris
No, I don't really do that. yeah yeah Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to collate data. God. Yeah. I, yeah. I, yeah. It's got to be that overall comprehensive thing.
00:28:19
Chris
And it's, don't know.
00:28:23
stupidwind
I still want to wait.
00:28:23
Chris
What kills me is we still get pushback from even, it tookck yeah, I don't agree with the BMI either, but just trying to add other functional fitness assessments or tips.
00:28:23
stupidwind
Sure. Yeah.
00:28:35
Chris
We get pushback from that sometimes at work.
00:28:37
stupidwind
sure yeah
00:28:38
Chris
i mean There was a gentleman the other day who does Ironman competitions and was like, well, I don't know why we need, you know, someone to help or show our folks proper lifting and carrying techniques.
00:28:53
Chris
What the hell do you mean? How does that hurt anything?
00:28:57
stupidwind
Right. Injury prevention, good.
00:29:01
Chris
Yeah, i I was flabbergasted. i I just sat there and stared at him.
00:29:07
stupidwind
that's kind of a crazy stance to take.
00:29:09
Chris
Yeah, yeah, I just, yeah, yeah, I think it's a much better, it would be better if the doctors had the time to run that metabolic assessment on you, you know, gauge your aerobic capacity, know.
00:29:26
stupidwind
I feel like not only should it be better, I think it might be, it should be necessary. Like if if it's correct, and I don't know that it actually is, that Americans are the most obese country or whatever you want to you is say, whatever buzzwords you want to say, then a better way of assessing their health would be paramount importance.
00:29:41
Chris
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:50
Chris
Mm-hmm.
00:29:52
Chris
You would think.
00:29:53
stupidwind
you but You would think?
00:29:54
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:56
stupidwind
i mean...
00:29:58
Chris
It's one of those that, you know, if we were, the way we respond to cardiac arrests, you know we've changed the way that is because of negative outcomes. And now the outcomes have started to skew a little bit more positive.
00:30:12
Chris
yeah you You change when the same old, same old doesn't work.
00:30:17
stupidwind
Yeah. but it And I talked to my dietician about it constantly.
00:30:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:30:23
stupidwind
And I'm like, she's like, well, those numbers don't mean anything. Like, and don't give me the numbers.
00:30:28
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:29
stupidwind
Tell me the things I need to know.
00:30:31
Chris
yeah
00:30:31
stupidwind
Tell me the things to work on.
00:30:33
Chris
Right.
00:30:33
stupidwind
You know, and that's, we've had conversations about body fat percentage and all that. But then you talk to her and you say, well, what's a healthy body fat percentage? Oh, I don't know. There's 38 different. Who's studying this crap?
00:30:45
stupidwind
This
00:30:47
Chris
ah
00:30:48
stupidwind
There has to be an answer for everyone.
00:30:50
Chris
Yeah. Well, again, I think it falls back to just chip me.
00:30:54
stupidwind
Yeah, just chip me. It is 100% true.
00:30:57
Chris
God.
00:30:58
stupidwind
i i want, at the very minimum, I want calories in, calories out.
00:30:59
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:03
Chris
Yeah. And I got to be honest, I have been super slacking with my Garmin for the last like three months. I have not been putting my water in.
00:31:13
stupidwind
Oh, I never put my water in.
00:31:15
Chris
It's just such a hassle.
00:31:17
stupidwind
Yeah, I drink enough water. I checked my pee.
00:31:20
Chris
Oh, I can I can I can tell days I don't.
00:31:23
stupidwind
Yeah. going to wake up with a headache because you're dehydrated?
00:31:28
Chris
Yeah.

Nutrition and Health Tracking Challenges

00:31:29
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:31:29
Chris
Yep.
00:31:29
stupidwind
That's weird.
00:31:30
Chris
Yeah, it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, yeah.
00:31:34
stupidwind
and ri
00:31:34
Chris
If you just chip me, it would tell. Yeah. Hey, Chris, you are 10 grams of protein shy today. Cool.
00:31:40
stupidwind
Right? Yeah. I would totally go out and just be like, alright, well, it's got 10 grams of protein. Bam.
00:31:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:46
stupidwind
Pop that in my gullet.
00:31:47
Chris
ah
00:31:48
stupidwind
Move on.
00:31:49
Chris
Right. Yeah.
00:31:49
stupidwind
i told us I literally told my dietician the other day, I want power pellets.
00:31:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:31:54
stupidwind
I want the Ron Wisner blend power pellet and you just tell me how many eat a day and I'll eat that many.
00:31:57
Chris
Yeah. Exactly. Yep. Yeah. ah Yeah. i Treat me like a hamster.
00:32:03
stupidwind
ye
00:32:04
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:06
stupidwind
She looked through my... by I've been logging my food and she's like, you eat the same thing every day. I'm like, yeah, because that way I know I get my things.
00:32:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:32:16
stupidwind
So it doesn't get boring? Nope.
00:32:17
Chris
Yeah. no
00:32:19
stupidwind
Just give me a power button.
00:32:19
Chris
So, yeah, I mean, so we do mix things up, but everybody, not everybody, but in administrative services, there are two people that every morning have a bowl of oatmeal.
00:32:33
Chris
There is a person who eats a dry cup of cereal on the way to work because he's an idiot.
00:32:39
stupidwind
It's a maniac.
00:32:39
Chris
um Yeah. There's another guy who drinks, you know, a shake but every day.
00:32:46
stupidwind
Mm-hmm.
00:32:46
Chris
you you can bank on these four people eating the same thing every day.
00:32:52
stupidwind
I eat one or two one or of two different breakfasts every day. That's it. It's usually oatmeal, but every once a while just wake up and have yogurt because it helps start my protein up for the day.
00:33:02
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. And it helps you go poop.
00:33:07
stupidwind
And it does help you go poop. Well, oatmeal helps too.
00:33:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:10
stupidwind
But it's just, yeah, I could, pallor pellets, bam, bam, bam.
00:33:15
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:33:16
stupidwind
I'm good.
00:33:17
Chris
yeah It takes the guesswork out of things.
00:33:20
stupidwind
Yeah, i don't want to I don't want to have to.
00:33:21
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:23
stupidwind
Well, it's and when I'm food logging, and it's like, okay, skinless chicken thigh, 100 and whatever calories.
00:33:32
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:32
stupidwind
Well, this chicken thigh is not the same size as this chicken thigh.
00:33:35
Chris
Right.
00:33:35
stupidwind
There's no way that they're the same kind of calories.
00:33:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:37
stupidwind
And then my diet which is just like, ah stop, it's 10%.
00:33:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:40
stupidwind
got 10% wiggle room either way. but like, I don't want, what?
00:33:43
Chris
No. No, I want definitive metrics.
00:33:45
stupidwind
You're telling me to hit number. Right. You're telling me to hit this number every day. If I have to hit that number, then I need to know what these things are.
00:33:50
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:53
Chris
Yeah.
00:33:56
stupidwind
She yelled at me because like, she's like, are you measuring out your yogurt every day? Because you always put the same amount. I'm yeah, I get a measuring scoop out and get a spatula and I scrape off the excess and that's how much yogurt I have.
00:34:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:10
stupidwind
She's like, don't do that.
00:34:12
Chris
but But that's what she's telling you to do. You have to do that.
00:34:14
stupidwind
You told me to log my food.
00:34:16
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:16
stupidwind
I have to know how much food it is.
00:34:18
Chris
Oh my gosh.
00:34:22
stupidwind
Until you come up with a power pellet for me.
00:34:24
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:26
stupidwind
What you refuse to do.
00:34:26
Chris
Yeah. yeah
00:34:29
Chris
Yeah. I, I, yeah.
00:34:29
stupidwind
yeah
00:34:32
Chris
And that's like, i mean, it would take some of the stress out of cooking also, which I do like to cook.
00:34:37
stupidwind
Sure.
00:34:37
Chris
But again, if I, that'd be one less stressful thing and, you know, free up 45 minutes at night.
00:34:45
stupidwind
Yeah. Yeah. If, if, if it was as simple as just like, it takes me three minutes to make oatmeal in the morning, boil water, oatmeal in, damn.
00:34:54
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:55
stupidwind
Right.
00:34:56
Chris
Yeah.
00:34:56
stupidwind
If it was simple as that every day, I would totally do it because it's just, and then she yells at me, she's like, well, this day you didn't eat enough calories.
00:34:59
Chris
yeah
00:35:03
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:06
stupidwind
Well, I was busy. I didn't have time to be around a, you know, ah stove for an hour, twice, three times a day.
00:35:12
Chris
yeah
00:35:13
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:35:14
Chris
You
00:35:15
stupidwind
And I'm not going to McDonald's because that's death food. I'm not eating that crap anyways, but...
00:35:19
Chris
got to keep like granola bars and stuff on you.
00:35:24
stupidwind
ah That's one thing and I'm bad about is I don't keep little... She's like, hey, just get trail mix and have trail mix around.
00:35:28
Chris
Hmm.
00:35:30
stupidwind
I'm like, ah
00:35:30
Chris
Hmm. Yeah. yeah You should have a little snack bag.
00:35:35
stupidwind
I don't know. I should.
00:35:37
Chris
Yeah.
00:35:38
stupidwind
I don't disagree with you.
00:35:39
Chris
Yeah. That's I keep granola bars, like the little mini ones in my ah desk drawer. So that way, and know, if I hit that thing in the afternoon where, you know, I have that craving or whatever, I just eat something somewhat healthier.
00:35:53
stupidwind
Now, I want you to think about where I work.
00:35:55
Chris
I know.
00:35:56
stupidwind
And if I were to leave anything. So we had that. My dietitian I had that conversation. She's like, well, can't you take things to work and leave them there? I said, if I left anything at work, the animals would eat the marshmallows out of the fucking cereal.
00:36:10
Chris
No one would do that.
00:36:13
stupidwind
Yes, they would. And they would then complain about how they had a stomachache because they ate too many marshmallows.
00:36:21
Chris
Yeah. I mean, those individuals could have just separated the marshmallows out and put the marshmallows away somewhere.
00:36:26
stupidwind
could have just thrown the marshmallows away yeah yeah yeah had to eat them she was like that can't she did not believe me she's like that's not true if i it doesn't matter what you like I could leave the most healthy food that no one wants to eat they'd still fuck with it
00:36:28
Chris
yeah Yeah. No, no. You had to eat them. Oh, Yeah.
00:36:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:36:43
Chris
yeah. oh Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
00:36:47
stupidwind
no name fair game there's no you can't trust firefighters with any food ever
00:36:49
Chris
yep
00:36:51
Chris
yeah
00:36:56
Chris
yeah
00:36:56
stupidwind
Because they'd be like, cod liver oil? Yeah, I'll eat it. Oh, that's terrible.
00:37:00
Chris
Yeah, i wonder what that tastes like. it epi Exactly.
00:37:03
stupidwind
i meant that
00:37:03
Chris
And they keep eating it or drinking it.
00:37:05
stupidwind
I keep eating it. Yeah.
00:37:06
Chris
yeah God. We had firefighters who ate burnt garlic bread.
00:37:13
stupidwind
yeah Yeah.
00:37:14
Chris
And wood chips.
00:37:16
stupidwind
And wood chips. I was going to say, and wood chips because it said mesquite chips on it.
00:37:23
stupidwind
oh yeah So, yeah. she did not She did not believe that part of me.
00:37:28
Chris
Yeah, it's...
00:37:28
stupidwind
She's like, that can't like can't be true. I'm like, it's 100% true.
00:37:30
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:33
stupidwind
Oh! but Speaking of crazy conversations, I was talking to my mother because we're going on this trip. She's retiring, finally.
00:37:44
stupidwind
and we're going on this trip to Alaska together. And I was like, yeah, I'm little worried about like food for the, you know, I don't have enough protein. And so she's like, just put protein powder in little baggies and take it on the airplane with you.
00:37:52
Chris
yeah
00:37:56
stupidwind
So you want me to go through airport security with little baggies of a white powder.
00:38:03
Chris
yeah yeah totally legit oh yeah yeah
00:38:06
stupidwind
Okay. I feel like that'll be that'll be fine. Don't believe me when I say it's protein powder.
00:38:14
Chris
ah the easiest way would probably be to like tuck them in your hat or something like that yeah oh yeah yeah definitely prison wallet
00:38:20
stupidwind
What? I was thinking prison wallet. Yeah. Yeah. ah
00:38:27
Chris
Oh, God. and Just take little baggies of powder.
00:38:29
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:38:31
Chris
Yeah.
00:38:32
stupidwind
Just put all in Ziploc bags.
00:38:32
Chris
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
00:38:33
stupidwind
Then you'll be individually parsed out. Yeah. you want me to wrap those bags in duct tape?
00:38:36
Chris
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:38
stupidwind
You know, so that way they don't break apart. You know.
00:38:42
Chris
Hmm. Well, that's the thing. you Just take your whole container of protein powder, but put it in a gallon bag, but form it into a brick size.
00:38:54
Chris
ah
00:38:55
stupidwind
yeah That'll look normal.
00:38:56
Chris
And it right on it, not drugs. I promise.
00:38:58
stupidwind
but Not drugs, I promise. i don't really... Don't believe me.
00:39:03
Chris
ah Yeah.
00:39:10
stupidwind
and That was my rant for the BMI.
00:39:10
Chris
Yeah. It's yeah, no, it is.
00:39:12
stupidwind
It's insane.
00:39:14
Chris
It is. Yeah.
00:39:15
stupidwind
And then if you look at the cost of those scales, holy nuts.
00:39:19
Chris
Yeah. So how do we do, do we just refuse to allow a BMI assessment anymore?
00:39:26
stupidwind
Yeah, it shouldn't be a thing.
00:39:27
Chris
I think that's, I think that's the way to do it. You know, people.
00:39:30
stupidwind
When you do my the assessment through the InBody, there's an app.
00:39:34
Chris
Yeah.
00:39:34
stupidwind
If you go to the app, it literally says, your body type with this muscle mass, BMI is an inappropriate tool, blah, bla blah, blah, blah. Then don't put it on here.
00:39:42
Chris
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
00:39:44
stupidwind
Because it just drives me nuts.
00:39:44
Chris
Well, it's, but it's like you talk about the numbers thing. Uh, I had a recent checkup at my, uh, prostate doctor and I got the blood work done. And then of course I looked at the blood work before I went to the doctor and I noticed that, yeah, I'm up like two or three points.
00:40:02
Chris
So I'm freaking out. I go to talk to him. He's like, ah, the numbers aren't super specific. There's a lot of things that can influence that. i was like, then why are we doing these numbers that are driving me insane?
00:40:14
Chris
He's like, well, it kind of points us in the right direction.
00:40:14
stupidwind
Exactly.
00:40:18
Chris
it's just, we'll come back in six months. We'll get another run of numbers and we'll do an MRI. was like, okay
00:40:28
stupidwind
Feels very blasé.
00:40:30
Chris
yeah yeah and this doc i mean he's he's down to earth super cool but it's also yeah he's ah it's fine i there was this one guy i treated his numbers were like 80 i'm like it doesn't help me yeah yeah yeah so yeah fun
00:40:43
stupidwind
Yeah, yeah. I know there's always people worse off than me. That doesn't... add and I don't need that. Yeah.
00:40:52
Chris
Yeah, so folks, when you go to your doctor, refuse the BMI.
00:40:56
stupidwind
Yeah, tell them, get the calipers out. Pull my skin.
00:41:01
Chris
Pull my skin.
00:41:05
Chris
ah But then that's another subjective thing, because some people might pinch a little bit higher, a little bit lower.
00:41:08
stupidwind
Oh, yeah. It's a...
00:41:13
stupidwind
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:14
Chris
And if you're having a bloated day or a dehydrated day, that's going to change your skin turgor.
00:41:20
stupidwind
Yeah. Like I do, I do taping and you know, I have to have my wife tape and she's like, I'm really bad at this. I'm like, how can you be bad at this? It's just tape at the same spot. So I'm going to get tattooed where to tape.
00:41:30
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:33
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:41:33
Chris
Yeah. ah Well, I guess that's topic one.

Gaming Storytelling and Mechanics

00:41:44
stupidwind
Yeah, that's a big one.
00:41:47
Chris
um Topic two. So we've kind of talked about this about books before, I know. yeah like You start reading a book and it's not the best at first. And people are oh, give it time. you know Try to push through it or whatever.
00:42:02
Chris
I'm at that with a game. So I started Dragon Age Veilguard.
00:42:05
stupidwind
Ooh.
00:42:08
stupidwind
Oh.
00:42:09
Chris
And the the but art style and all, it's thrown me off a little bit. It very much feels like if Dragon Age went to Fortnite, I feel like.
00:42:20
Chris
um was like, you know, Bioware, they can, you know, they're good storytellers. The combat's fine. but mean, some of the side characters are interesting so far. I'm like, i don't know, hour and a half in, two hours.
00:42:37
Chris
But I just don't feel like it's got, like, it's hooks, hooks into me. And I just, I don't know if I want to keep pushing to see if the story, like, really starts to engage with me or not.
00:42:47
stupidwind
If I was two hours into something and I wasn't feeling it, I'd have been like, I wasted two hours.
00:42:50
Chris
Hmm.
00:42:52
stupidwind
I would not move. I wouldn't waste another minute.
00:42:54
Chris
yeah yeah
00:42:58
stupidwind
ah so I feel like.
00:43:02
stupidwind
Bioware has phoned in the last three games. I hate to say that.
00:43:08
Chris
yeah well like i mean some of the um like conversation decisions i ah you know it when you pick your different you know you've got three or four
00:43:09
stupidwind
But.
00:43:22
Chris
And like sometimes one will be a heart. So I'm assuming that's like to advance the romance options for somebody or something. But like one's like a thumbs up, one's like a laughing face, and one's like a stern, arms crossed.
00:43:35
Chris
was like, OK. So I clicked like the laughing face. Well, it wasn't anything like comedic about our interaction. And it was like so-and-so approves. was like, OK.
00:43:47
Chris
was like, wait a second. So I reloaded the quick save, and I picked the stern one. Pretty much the same conversation. So-and-so approves. Reloaded.
00:43:59
Chris
Did the thumbs up one. So-and-so approves. I was like, so my interactions really aren't doing anything.
00:44:07
stupidwind
Right.
00:44:08
Chris
And then i I read online. They were like, yeah, you could be the biggest jerk in this. And it's really not going to change your outcomes with any of your companions. I was like, well, then what the hell's the point?
00:44:19
stupidwind
Yeah, that seems,
00:44:19
Chris
that was the whole thing of like mass effect and stuff, you know, you go Paragon or you go, can't remember what the dark side was, but yeah, but yeah, I mean, it, you know, or like the original, you Baldur's gate, you know, you, your conversations and all that was, you know, Oh, you're leaning more towards lawful good or, you know, chaotic evil.
00:44:20
stupidwind
yeah
00:44:27
stupidwind
Yeah. yeah
00:44:46
Chris
It's an influenced how people reacted to you. It's like, oh, if you're dick, I'm not going to give you the same, you know, prices on merchandise as this person. and Not this.
00:44:59
stupidwind
Yeah, that sounds terrible.
00:44:59
Chris
and i'm barefoot And I'm barefoot in the armor. I don't understand it.
00:45:03
stupidwind
Yeah, I
00:45:06
Chris
I found three sets of armor and all of them on barefoot and there's no it's you have a slot for a helmet, a slot for armor, a slot for a belt. A accessory like a necklace or something and then two rings. There's no boots. There's no gloves.
00:45:22
Chris
No, nothing. I don't like it.
00:45:24
stupidwind
don't want to see bare feet. Also...
00:45:27
Chris
Yeah, I'm not a halfling.
00:45:29
stupidwind
Right. My feet aren't that tough.
00:45:32
Chris
Yeah, so I don't know. yeah Now, after talking to you, I might just end it.
00:45:38
stupidwind
Yeah, I think, yeah I mean, it's okay.
00:45:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:45:42
stupidwind
Not every game is for you.
00:45:44
Chris
Yeah, and it was free, so it's not like I'm out any money for it, but it' just you it was
00:45:47
stupidwind
Right. um
00:45:50
Chris
it's just frustrating that it was... don't know. I don't know what I expected because you and I have had this conversation, and i think since Dragon Age Origins, we've been disappointed with the route Dragon Age has taken.
00:46:05
stupidwind
Mm-hmm.
00:46:06
Chris
So...
00:46:07
stupidwind
Well, I just, I feel like Bioware as a company has just taken a route that I'm not super excited about.
00:46:14
Chris
Yeah, I don't know. it was this like the result of the corporate suits being, hey, ah Fortnite, it's flashy and cartoony.
00:46:27
Chris
Why don't you ah flash up that Dragon Age a little bit?
00:46:30
stupidwind
Right. Yeah.
00:46:31
Chris
a yeah
00:46:33
stupidwind
and mean but Maybe that they're also trying to get another, you know, generation involved. I don't know.
00:46:43
Chris
Maybe, but maybe it's like a screw you to their dedicated fans.
00:46:50
stupidwind
Right.
00:46:51
Chris
I say dedicated.
00:46:51
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:46:51
Chris
i mean, i don't know of many people who are still, know, beating the bush for Dragon Age.
00:47:00
stupidwind
I don't think there's many out there.
00:47:01
Chris
Yeah. Oh.
00:47:03
stupidwind
I tell you, I'm having problem with the
00:47:09
stupidwind
Sid Meier Civ 7. I mean, but the game was fine.
00:47:11
Chris
Really?
00:47:14
stupidwind
It's got a lot of problems.
00:47:15
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:16
stupidwind
But I'm kind of used to that with Civ, where it's like the first generation and they have to pat you know they update it and make it better. Because Civ 6, by the end of it, was great.
00:47:22
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:24
stupidwind
But the start was rough.
00:47:26
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:27
Chris
yeah
00:47:27
stupidwind
Well, now they've updated the game and it's basically unplayable.
00:47:30
Chris
Oh my gosh, that's awful.
00:47:32
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:47:33
Chris
Yeah. And is it one of those that they won't put out a hot fix? They just do like a standard every week or whatever update?
00:47:40
stupidwind
i I don't know. I really haven't.
00:47:43
Chris
Yeah.
00:47:44
stupidwind
I just...
00:47:45
Chris
Yeah, because you would think they'd be like, oh, crap, you know, this is really screwed things up. Let's push a hot fix out real quick.
00:47:50
stupidwind
Right. Yeah, well.
00:47:51
Chris
Yeah. I mean, it's got to be somewhere on their Excel sheet.
00:48:01
Chris
Yeah.
00:48:03
Chris
Yeah, it's like, ah yeah, I would rather pay.
00:48:08
Chris
If you're going to give me a game that's got to be have a ton of updates like that and so and all to really get it going, then start me at like a 40 or a $50 price point.
00:48:18
stupidwind
Yeah, sure.
00:48:19
Chris
Yeah, but I don't know. And it's like I know there's all kinds of people on an uproar about Call of Duty because i know you don't play Call of Duty anymore, but there's a crossover event right now with the Ninja Turtles.
00:48:31
stupidwind
Right.
00:48:35
Chris
Totally bizarro, bonkers, whatever. But they're like, oh, yeah, you got to spend all this money get the Ninja Turtles. Or you don't spend the money and you yeah, because they're like, and then you got a bunch of Ninja Turtles running around.
00:48:46
stupidwind
right
00:48:49
Chris
It's stupid. I'm like, you don't have to do that. Yes, is it I find it comical if I'm in a match and Donatello takes me out with a MP4. Okay, ha, ha, ha.
00:48:59
Chris
I don't care. It doesn't affect me. I'm not going to spend the money for it. I you know ah just go through and get the free pass stuff. And it doesn't impact me whatsoever. I don't understand why people are so irate over something that they don't have to do.
00:49:16
stupidwind
Right.
00:49:18
Chris
Oh, I guess ah a lot of it is just internet wants the internet.
00:49:23
stupidwind
There is the internet.
00:49:26
stupidwind
and
00:49:27
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:27
stupidwind
Sadly.
00:49:28
Chris
Yeah.
00:49:30
stupidwind
Those games are, you know, but like you gotta know what you're getting into, right? Like, if you're playing Call of Duty, there's always going to be cosmetics.
00:49:36
Chris
yeah
00:49:39
stupidwind
There's always been cosmetics.
00:49:41
Chris
yeah
00:49:42
stupidwind
It's a free game now, right? Like...
00:49:44
Chris
well if you play war zone it's free but eat like you know i play the multiplayer and the zombies modes which were part of the base campaign stuff and yeah so what that yeah i'm yeah i'm killing zombies and right next to me is somebody who looks like a chameleon with a poncho on and then to my left is you know um
00:50:11
Chris
I can't think. Like, you know, one of what's a rap star or whatever. I don't know. But some, you know, artist. Who cares? I'm in a video game shooting zombies. There's nothing realistic about this.
00:50:24
stupidwind
Right, yeah.
00:50:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:50:25
stupidwind
Just
00:50:26
Chris
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
00:50:32
Chris
I will say I was almost tempted to buy the pack from the previous season because it was the Terminator.

Nostalgia for Classic Films and Franchises

00:50:39
Chris
I was like, oh, that could be fun.
00:50:40
stupidwind
That's right, too.
00:50:41
Chris
Yep. Yep.
00:50:43
stupidwind
the
00:50:44
Chris
God. Which I think I'm rewatch the Terminator this weekend.
00:50:49
stupidwind
just the terminator
00:50:51
Chris
Probably.
00:50:52
stupidwind
and correct too
00:50:52
Chris
Yeah, maybe it's too
00:50:55
stupidwind
I mean, it didn't stop.
00:50:56
Chris
Which, i mean, side tangent, that T2 game, did you watch the trailer for that?
00:51:01
stupidwind
I did. he broke my own rule.
00:51:02
Chris
Oh my. Yeah, but oh my gosh, I'm like, this this is what we asked for. It's like Contra meets, you know, i was like, God, I'm a kid again.
00:51:07
stupidwind
Yeah. Yeah. The first thing I saw was like, oh, this is Contra. mean, Storm Raider. Sweet.
00:51:12
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:13
stupidwind
I just feel like it should be in a cabinet, and I should be playing it in a pizza shop.
00:51:16
Chris
Yeah, yeah, yeah. With somebody else having quarters lined up across the screen, knowing they've got next play.
00:51:21
stupidwind
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:24
Chris
Hmm. Yeah, yeah, I watched rewatch Predator last weekend.
00:51:28
stupidwind
Oh!
00:51:29
Chris
God, it holds up.
00:51:30
stupidwind
That's a good movie.
00:51:31
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:32
stupidwind
I mean, the other one's terrible, but Predator itself's great.
00:51:35
Chris
Yeah.
00:51:38
Chris
Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:51:41
stupidwind
I don't think I've enjoyed any of the Predator vs. Aliens movies.
00:51:47
Chris
No. No.
00:51:50
stupidwind
And I want to say, i don't think I'm alone.
00:51:54
Chris
No, you're not. No.
00:51:56
stupidwind
And they keep making them.
00:51:58
Chris
Oh, yeah.
00:51:58
stupidwind
it's like It's like, I don't know if you've watched any of the aliens like Covenant and ah
00:52:05
Chris
i I have not.
00:52:07
stupidwind
and yeah they're not good.
00:52:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:09
stupidwind
How do they keep getting made?
00:52:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:11
stupidwind
Like after four of them, that's the newest one?
00:52:12
Chris
I've heard Romulus is good.
00:52:15
Chris
yeah
00:52:15
stupidwind
I've heard that's okay. Sure.
00:52:18
Chris
Yeah, I've heard it's like trying to go back to the way Alien and Aliens were.
00:52:22
stupidwind
Sure.
00:52:23
Chris
Yeah, mean, alien Alien was great for what it was, suspenseful and all that. Aliens and Predator are probably two of the best action movies of that time period.
00:52:33
stupidwind
Yo, yeah. Yeah.
00:52:36
Chris
Yeah.
00:52:36
stupidwind
yeah Yeah, 100%. And I just... All of the sequels suck.
00:52:44
Chris
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:47
Chris
Lance hendrick Hendrickson, the guy played Bishop.
00:52:51
stupidwind
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:52:52
Chris
Yeah. So evidently, Cameron wanted him to be the Terminator at first.
00:52:57
stupidwind
Oh.
00:52:58
Chris
Yeah. Can you imagine that?
00:52:59
stupidwind
Yeah. That would be a weird...
00:53:01
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, Arnold is the Terminator.
00:53:04
stupidwind
He's the Terminator.
00:53:05
Chris
Yeah. The t eight hundred
00:53:06
stupidwind
Yeah. Right.
00:53:09
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:09
stupidwind
T-1000.
00:53:10
Chris
Now, I thought the T-1000 was the liquid one.
00:53:14
stupidwind
Maybe.
00:53:15
Chris
I don't know. I know in the first one... it was the, it was like the T one Oh one or something. And then by the second one, they called it the T eight hundred. i don't know. Yeah.
00:53:22
stupidwind
but
00:53:23
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:25
stupidwind
Again, first two movies are watchable.
00:53:25
Chris
Yeah.
00:53:28
Chris
yeah
00:53:28
stupidwind
Don't watch anything.
00:53:28
Chris
yeah
00:53:30
stupidwind
Same thing with Aliens. Don't watch anything else's first two.
00:53:31
Chris
yeah
00:53:34
Chris
yeah
00:53:34
stupidwind
I tried to watch what Prometheus said on Covenant, and it was like, what the heck?
00:53:38
Chris
yeah
00:53:42
stupidwind
They tried to be too Blade Runner-y. That was the problem.
00:53:44
Chris
Oh, yeah. Well, they are in the same universe, aren't they?
00:53:47
stupidwind
They are supposedly in the same universe.
00:53:49
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:51
stupidwind
But Conan and most of Arkham Horror is also the same universe.
00:53:55
Chris
Oh, God.
00:54:00
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:54:00
Chris
Really?
00:54:02
stupidwind
Yeah, the guys who wrote it was Conan Howard and then ah Crazy Nuts.
00:54:02
Chris
Huh.
00:54:08
Chris
Huh.
00:54:10
stupidwind
They were like friends, so they wrote their stories into each other.
00:54:11
Chris
Hmm.
00:54:14
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:15
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:54:17
Chris
Interesting.
00:54:18
stupidwind
It's fun fact, not good fact.
00:54:19
Chris
Now is. Red Sonja. Tied to Conan.
00:54:25
stupidwind
I don't think so.
00:54:27
Chris
I don't think so either. Yeah.
00:54:30
stupidwind
Yeah, they haven't made a good Conan movie either.
00:54:32
Chris
No.
00:54:33
stupidwind
40 years.
00:54:35
Chris
Yeah. The Destroyer was.
00:54:37
stupidwind
Which is a weird...
00:54:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:39
stupidwind
Yeah, it's a weird choice. Like, just have Arnold do Conan now.
00:54:41
Chris
And that's.
00:54:43
stupidwind
Like, old man Conan.
00:54:45
Chris
Yeah.
00:54:47
Chris
God.
00:54:48
stupidwind
Be quite cool.
00:54:49
Chris
Yeah. What? What?
00:54:50
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:54:50
Chris
I'm sure he'd do it.
00:54:51
stupidwind
I'm sure he'd it. Dude's ripped like...
00:54:52
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:54
stupidwind
He's jacked.
00:54:55
Chris
yeah Yeah.
00:54:56
stupidwind
Yeah. That's I want to look like when I'm 70.
00:54:58
Chris
yeah Good Lord.
00:55:00
stupidwind
I'd like look like it now.
00:55:02
Chris
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:55:04
stupidwind
To be fair.
00:55:05
Chris
see some of these people, know, actors and all. like, good God.
00:55:10
stupidwind
Well, they don't age.
00:55:10
Chris
but But it, but kills me though that, you know, They're like doing all this work and this and that. And then, yeah, like you said, you look back at the 70s and 80s and look what Arnold was doing with that.
00:55:22
Chris
So. Yeah.
00:55:25
stupidwind
good. Yeah. I think the reason those movies are so good is because they had to be practical.
00:55:32
Chris
Mm hmm. Yeah.
00:55:34
stupidwind
And I think that's a lot of it because you had to make decisions. You had to make compromises because of the practicality of things.
00:55:41
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:44
stupidwind
Computers really screwed everything up.
00:55:46
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:49
stupidwind
Pretty much the life lesson for the day is computers screwed everything up.
00:55:51
Chris
Yeah. T2 they didn't though.
00:55:55
stupidwind
No, there was a lot of CGI in T2.
00:55:57
Chris
Yeah.
00:55:59
stupidwind
There were still practical effects, though. It was stunts.
00:56:00
Chris
Oh yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. ah Yeah. Maybe that was like the tipping point where they're like, oh wow, look at all this stuff CG can do. And. Hmm.
00:56:11
Chris
Hmm. Damn you, Cameron.
00:56:14
stupidwind
No, the tipping point was the Star Wars re-releases.
00:56:17
Chris
Uh, yeah.
00:56:19
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:56:19
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:20
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:56:21
Chris
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:23
stupidwind
i When they took the guns out of the FBI hands in E.T.
00:56:26
Chris
I, I, there's so many. Yeah. Yeah. Which evidently there's, what did I see the other day Five different versions of Terminator 1.
00:56:33
stupidwind
Yeah.
00:56:38
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:39
stupidwind
Really?
00:56:40
Chris
Yeah.
00:56:42
stupidwind
Well, there's a edit.
00:56:42
Chris
yeah Yeah, but there was like the director's cut and then there's the Skynet edition and yeah.
00:56:44
stupidwind
Sure. Hmm.
00:56:51
stupidwind
That's fun fact.
00:56:51
Chris
And there's like, yeah. And for one of them, like there's like, they all live happy or no, I'm sorry for T2, there's an alternate ending where Skynet never is created and everybody's happy in the future.
00:57:10
stupidwind
But...
00:57:11
Chris
Yeah.
00:57:12
stupidwind
i don't want to watch that movie.
00:57:12
Chris
Yeah. No. Oh,
00:57:18
Chris
yeah. So, yeah. all right.
00:57:21
stupidwind
Well, I feel like we can answer the pod yet again.
00:57:22
Chris
I'll see if I'm we have we have. Yeah. I hope everybody's having a ah lovely blustery day.
00:57:29
stupidwind
Yeah, enjoy your windy Terminator aw viewing.
00:57:31
Chris
Yeah, I will. I will. But ah yeah, take care of yourself, folks, and ignore your BMI.
00:57:37
stupidwind
Yeah, 100%.
00:57:38
Chris
Find something else to measure your fitness accurately.
00:57:42
stupidwind
and worry about.
00:57:43
Chris
Yeah. All right, folks, take care.
00:57:45
stupidwind
Bye, folks.