Ron's Dream and Health Concerns
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Chris
 Welcome back to the Mr. Graph podcast. I'm Chris.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I'm very tired Ron.
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jesuisfatigue
 I'm not as tired anymore.
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jesuisfatigue
 I got nine good hours of sleep.
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Chris
 Good for you. I did not.
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Chris
 No, I just haven't been sleeping well.
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jesuisfatigue
 I had a dream you yelled at me.
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jesuisfatigue
 yeah I literally had a dream last night and I was... And the reason you yelled at me is bonkers. Apparently...
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jesuisfatigue
 Because I just had to do a cologuard test for the first time my entire life. By the way, I don't have butt cancer. Or at least I don't have the markers for butt cancer.
Travel Gear and TSA Challenges
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jesuisfatigue
 So, you know, where you have to shit in a bucket, send that bucket in to, you know, the poor FedEx guy that has to take that thing in.
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jesuisfatigue
 You know, more on better on him. But, in my journey...
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Chris
 So wait, you put it in a bucket.
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jesuisfatigue
 What'd you do? Take it in your hand?
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Chris
 I just, no, I just put it in an envelope and put it in the mail.
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jesuisfatigue
 but But in my dream, for some reason, I used the urinal out of the ambulance. And I had to, no, it wasn't, I they didn't take a dump, I just had to piss.
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jesuisfatigue
 I was on a scene, I used the urinal out of an ambulance. And you got really mad at me.
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jesuisfatigue
 like you were like this this is this stealing of city property i'm gonna find the person who did this and i'm gonna you know we're gonna they throw the book at him and how dare this animal use the urinal ah in my dream like that that was my i woke up going what did what did i do to chris why is he mad at me
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Chris
 and wonder if it's because you saw me yesterday have to use the constricting band off the ambulance as a modified belt.
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jesuisfatigue
 ah that's true. I should write you up for that.
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jesuisfatigue
 You just steal city property.
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Chris
 It's technically hospital property.
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jesuisfatigue
 guess technically hospital property. yeah
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Chris
 Yeah. And I did tell the paramedic crew, I said, Hey, I've got one of your constricting bands.
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jesuisfatigue
 Oh, rant one of the day.
Frustrations with TSA Rules
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jesuisfatigue
 and it even has to play with EMS. My brain is will always forever be broken, right? I can't i can't unfix the brain. So I'm going on a trip and
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jesuisfatigue
 We're going be hiking during said trip. So I don't like to go hiking.
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Chris
 Yeah. Like hiking hiking or urban hiking.
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jesuisfatigue
 No, like hiking, hike like like we have to take a class about bear protection and we have to take bear spray hiking.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, so we're going, we're going hiking, hiking.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I don't like to go into the wilderness or hiking without a basic, I call it a survival. I don't like to call it a first aid kit anymore. I call it a survival kit.
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jesuisfatigue
 Because I think, yes, there's part of that.
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Chris
 That's because you're a Boy Scout at heart.
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jesuisfatigue
 But also, over the years of being a paramedic, going, lot of this shit is bullshit.
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jesuisfatigue
 Like, i don't take but I don't take Band-Aids. I don't take, you know, comfort stuff. I take things that these are it will save your life.
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jesuisfatigue
 Like, I take a tourniquet. I take, you know, you know, 5x9s and 4x4s. And I take, the only thing I take is blister. ah take moleskin tape for blisters, you know.
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jesuisfatigue
 But, ah so I built up my little hiking. first aid kit and he's got to be light enough that you're going to carry it but i have to fly it to said trip right because i'm flying and i have to take it with me and i'm not checking a bag i'm just carrying on so i go on the tsa website obviously normally this kit would involve a
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jesuisfatigue
 a knife, right?
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jesuisfatigue
 Like i wouldn't go anywhere without a knife, but I'm going flying. So I can't have a knife, get it. It's fine. I'll leave the knife at home. I'm not happy about it, but it's, I'm doing that.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Does it allow you to bring a pot lid?
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jesuisfatigue
 don't tempt me, but
Packing Woes and Strategies
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jesuisfatigue
 so I can't bring a knife check.
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jesuisfatigue
 So then I, I say, okay, well I'm going to bring trauma shears. Trauma shears are pretty versatile, yeah pretty useful in a lot of survival situations.
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jesuisfatigue
 So I go and I go on TSA's website and I, you know, first I Google, can you bring trauma shears on an airplane? I just get some answers. So I go to TSA's website and there's nothing specifically saying you can't take them.
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jesuisfatigue
 So then I text my friend who happens to be a TSA agent who is married to a supervising to a TSA agent.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I said, hey, can I take these on an airplane? Well, they have to be rounded tips. Well, technically, trauma shears are rounded tips. They're not pointed tips, right?
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jesuisfatigue
 So then I said, okay, well, that that's fine. And he says, then they have to have less than three inches from the fulcrum. said, okay, well, trauma shears are only 2.5 inches from the fulcrum.
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jesuisfatigue
 And his answer the end of that is, well, it's really up to the TSA agent. Good luck. And I was so fucking mad because that's not how it should work.
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jesuisfatigue
 This is the rule. This is what you can bring. You can't bring this. If you tell me I can't bring this and I bring that thing, I'm an idiot. But if you tell me, well, these are the rules and you follow the rules, but then just because Billy Bob has a day a bad day, you can't bring that thing?
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jesuisfatigue
 That's not how it's supposed to work. It's ridiculous.
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Chris
 No. Yeah. Yeah, that is literally one of the times it should be black or white.
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jesuisfatigue
 Ridiculous.
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Chris
 There should be no gray. Hmm.
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jesuisfatigue
 Right. And my argument again is going to be, If there's a medical emergency on the plane, you're going to expect me to act. Correct?
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jesuisfatigue
 And you're going to take away the tools that I use to act.
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jesuisfatigue
 Right? and hey
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Chris
 Yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right.
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jesuisfatigue
 You know. those But I was so pissed off by his answer. I haven't talked to him since.
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jesuisfatigue
 I was just pissed off. was like, this is bullshit.
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jesuisfatigue
 if If it's this... then that's how it goes. That means every TSA agent follows that rule.
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jesuisfatigue
 Not, it's his gut feeling. So I, I freaking, usually they go, I, I, I take my survival kits and I put them in a vacuum seal bag and I vacuum seal them up.
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jesuisfatigue
 So know, keep some waterproof and all in one space takes a little, well, so I was like, well, these fucking dicks are going to assholes.
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jesuisfatigue
 I'm going to, I just taped the trauma shears, the outside. And I guess if I go to the TSA and they take my shears, they're going to throw them away.
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jesuisfatigue
 But I'm going pissed off when they do.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. It's very annoying.
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Chris
 yeah I don't. Yeah. And I like that their immediate thing is, yeah, we're just gonna throw it away.
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Chris
 No, let me hear that. I got put it in a locker and I'll get it when I come back.
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jesuisfatigue
 Right. I'm coming back to this airport.
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jesuisfatigue
 Well, I should be like, take it over to my friend who, oh, that's her over there. She's a supervisor at your goddamn facility. You know, take it to her.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's quite frustrating. Hmm.
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jesuisfatigue
 It's very frustrating. I think we have gotten to the point in America, and I'm only going speak for America, and maybe this isn't...
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jesuisfatigue
 We haven't reached the actual point yet. we We're getting close. They've just made air travel as inconvenient and annoying as possible.
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jesuisfatigue
 Every part of it.
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Chris
 Well, I mean, i remember for a time, like even nail clippers, they were like, Nope.
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jesuisfatigue
 Right. Yeah. No nail clippers.
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jesuisfatigue
 When I flew out in... to vegas in 04 no it was like 05 um i had a pair of pliers they were they had no blade there was no blade on them at all it was a pair of pliers in my bag and i had just forgotten that they were in there and they took those i'm gonna take the plane apart what what the fuck do you think right but what the fuck you think it was a pair of pliers
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Chris
 Yeah. It's a thing that, well, they don't know if you're MacGyver.
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Chris
 like Extract someone's tooth.
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jesuisfatigue
 And really the answer should to the knife problem should be everybody gets a knife.
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Chris
 Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
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jesuisfatigue
 It's bonkers.
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jesuisfatigue
 the The rules for the airport, like my wife and I have been reading the airlines rules every couple of months because they're like, are they changing the rules for carry on bags? Are they going to make us check this bag?
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jesuisfatigue
 we' We're measuring our fricking bags to be the exact size that they say it's allowed to be, you know,
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Chris
 Hmm. ah Yeah. Well, speaking of carry on where I'm not a traveler as much the last time i flew,
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Chris
 I, uh, everybody's like, yeah, we're just bringing carry on. So I thought that meant you just brought a carry on suitcase. So I packed everything into that. And they're like, where's your backpack? i was like, well, you said
Car Dependency and City Planning Issues
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Chris
 we're just doing carry on. They're like, yeah, you get a backpack and a carry on. was like,
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jesuisfatigue
 We bought, because we're bougie, and we splurged a little bit on this trip. You know, it's fine.
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jesuisfatigue
 And we'll use some of this, through but we bought carry-ons that convert into backpacks.
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jesuisfatigue
 So they're made by Osprey. They kind of look like hiking packs. They're not, they're definitely not hiking backpacks, but they are carry-ons that you convert into backpacks, because we're going to like walking around and
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jesuisfatigue
 you know It's just going to be easier to have backpacks.
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jesuisfatigue
 But yes, you do get a backpack that you can take on top of that.
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jesuisfatigue
 My wife and I have very different views on packing light. That's what I've learned.
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jesuisfatigue
 I came home yesterday and she, because on the way home, she's like, oh I'm done. I'm packed. said, oh, that's cool. Well, first off, she said she pre-packed, which to me meant she's pre-packing to figure out how much she's actually going pack.
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jesuisfatigue
 But she says she's done. And I walk in ah walk into the house and her carry-on bag looks perfectly acceptable. It's packed. It's the best way we can pack it.
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jesuisfatigue
 It looks good. Looks like the right size.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I look at her backpack. And this poor backpack is screaming out, kill me.
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jesuisfatigue
 um like, what is going on with your backpack? And she said she said to me, As I'm driving home, oh, I've got room in my backpack to buy like two to three books while we're and where while we're on the trip. I'm like, what size books are you going to put in this thing? It's bulging.
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jesuisfatigue
 and The zippers are breaking open. i said, what are you doing? She's like, well, those are the essentials I need to have with me. i'm like, your wallet, your keys, your passport, your book for the airplane.
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jesuisfatigue
 What else do you freaking need in your backpack? but you talk
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jesuisfatigue
 different she's like well i couldn't fit this in the suitcase i had to put this in this and i'm like okay we have different views on the world ah had to buy
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Chris
 Yeah. yeah Although I will say one thing when I pack for any kind of trip, I usually pack like double the amount of underwear I really need.
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Chris
 It's like, I think for some reason when I, you know, go on a trip, I'm going to um crap myself every day. i don't, I don't know what, why I do that.
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jesuisfatigue
 I always do give myself one security piece of underwear. Right? So, like, if I need six pairs underwear, I take seven.
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jesuisfatigue
 i don't know why.
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jesuisfatigue
 the same thing. I don't know. It's never happened. But I always do that.
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Chris
 Yeah. I probably think back to you saying, Oh, everybody, you know, if you average it out, everybody craps himself once a year.
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jesuisfatigue
 But, you know.
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jesuisfatigue
 we're packing is a nine day trip, but we can do laundry in the middle.
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jesuisfatigue
 So we're, I told her, i was like pack for five days and then, you know, we'll do laundry in the middle and we'll be fine.
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Chris
 Yeah, that gives you a day and a half buffer.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. And we don't need to like, we don't have to have 38 outfits on vacation.
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jesuisfatigue
 She's like, she's like, well, what we're going, if we go to a fancy restaurant, we just won't more than likely.
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jesuisfatigue
 She's like, well, what if I get invited to the Crown Prince of Russia's
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jesuisfatigue
 It's not happening.
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Chris
 Well, then you have your credit card. You can buy something to wear.
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jesuisfatigue
 That's what I said. ah She was like, well, what if I forget to leave? like We're not going to, like, Antarctica. There's stores everywhere we're going. If there's an emergency that we need something, we can figure it out.
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jesuisfatigue
 We'll be fine.
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jesuisfatigue
 And my my mother, my mother is going on this trip.
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jesuisfatigue
 and talk about different packing strategies. She has two for herself, two full-size case suitcases, a carrier on a backpack that she's bringing.
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jesuisfatigue
 I said, what are you doing? She's like, well, yeah you know, we got we're going to Alaska. need thermal underwear and thermal. This is it. It's, it's late spring. The average temperature of where we're going is 55 miles, 55 degrees. She's like, well, as i it's too cold. I'm wearing my freeze to death. I'm like,
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Chris
 That's that's not freezing.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I understand that I am the exception. I wear shorts all the time. But 55 degrees, put a hoodie on and shorts and you're fine.
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jesuisfatigue
 You know, I'm not swimming in the Bering Strait here.
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jesuisfatigue
 um We're going to be just north of Canada.
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Chris
 yeah I mean, this isn't negative 55.
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jesuisfatigue
 We're not Kurt Russell and we're going to use a flamethrower against the thing here. where
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jesuisfatigue
 We're fine.
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jesuisfatigue
 It's crazy. The things people think they need, it's bonkers.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, I like the people are like, what do you think the weather will be like there? I don't know. Let's look it up. It's not like, you know, 40 years ago where you're like, oh, gosh, you know, maybe it'll be warm.
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Chris
 Now you have a pretty good idea nowadays.
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jesuisfatigue
 You have a pretty good idea of you know, they're always wrong, but you have pretty good idea of what the averages look like, at least.
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jesuisfatigue
 It's just bonkers.
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jesuisfatigue
 Like, what if this happens?
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jesuisfatigue
 What if this happens? Well, I'll kill a caribou and I'll skin it. I don't know is for me.
00:15:06
jesuisfatigue
 it what for me
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Chris
 Yeah, but you won't have a weapon. How are you going to kill it with your bare hands?
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jesuisfatigue
 Well, with my trauma shears that I can convert into a machete.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. I fooled you this whole time.
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jesuisfatigue
 These are actually machete.
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jesuisfatigue
 It's good times.
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Chris
 Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I, uh, started playing expedition 33.
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jesuisfatigue
 I saw that. And...
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Chris
 You saw, you saw that on discord. Okay.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, Discord.
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Chris
 Yeah. i was like, wait, how'd you see that?
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jesuisfatigue
 um I'm checking you.
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jesuisfatigue
 I have robots in your house right now.
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Chris
 yeah, that's, that's fine. Um, yeah, I, uh, I made it through the prologue. It is definitely a Chris ass game.
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jesuisfatigue
 Oh my god, it's the most Chris Haskey that's ever existed.
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Chris
 I suck at parrying. God.
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jesuisfatigue
 ah And there's no clues to when to parry.
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Chris
 Yeah, I like and I felt bad. I should take a video of it like I'm hitting the parry button way too fast, I guess, or whatever. My little guy, he's like, Perry. Oh, let's jump right into the swing.
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jesuisfatigue
 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that happens a lot.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Yeah.
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Chris
 Like ah in the prologue where you can like practice against what's her name?
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Chris
 Millet or whatever. Male, Malay, me Mila.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, the girl. The little girl.
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Chris
 I think I fought against her eight times before I finally...
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jesuisfatigue
 Oh, jeez. Wow.
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Chris
 Yeah. was like, well, maybe dodging is easier. It's a little bit easier, but no. Because then my little guy's just boogoo, boogoo, boogoo, boogoo.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, you just do a little jump and then still get whacked.
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Chris
 Yeah, I'm like, ugh. Yep.
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Chris
 Hmm. Yeah. But it when they do their little, like, ah what you call it, tutorial for it. It's like the enemy had like this flash before. I was like, oh, I'm going to look for this little flash or this little you like little yellow change in their strike. No, no, no.
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jesuisfatigue
 Have you gotten to the one where you have to jump yet?
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jesuisfatigue
 Okay, well then
Language Barriers in Emergencies
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Chris
 Yeah. I just got the chick.
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jesuisfatigue
 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Luna.
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Chris
 Luna. Yep. I literally just got her. So.
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jesuisfatigue
 I'm assuming I'm gonna have to get rid of somebody at one point when when I go back to finishing this game.
00:17:31
jesuisfatigue
 And I'm dropping Gustav first.
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Chris
 Yeah. Oh, that's Charlie Cox.
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jesuisfatigue
 I've heard that, but I don't care.
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jesuisfatigue
 He sucks. Not Charlie Cox, but Gustav. He's terrible.
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jesuisfatigue
 He does the least damage. I don't know what he's supposed to do for.
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Chris
 Yeah, I did notice that I was like, man, he's not doing much. Well, until you get his like. whatever it is, overcharge thing going and then, yeah, but that's a one and done.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, and then if they're i tell you is if they're immune to overcharge, he really sucks against that enemy.
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Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Luna chick, she's seems to be pretty good because she's got the different elements.
00:18:10
Chris
 Although she's a crazy hippie, she's running around barefoot.
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jesuisfatigue
 the the The little girl's pretty good too.
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jesuisfatigue
 When you get to her.
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Chris
 Yeah, I could see that.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, once you get to her.
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Chris
 but Maybe I should take it into work with me tomorrow so the ah Frenchman could help me.
00:18:22
jesuisfatigue
 But it is the most crisp game.
00:18:30
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, don't they leave today?
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jesuisfatigue
 Did they leave tonight?
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jesuisfatigue
 they were saying.
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jesuisfatigue
 Yes, the Frenchman was so impressed that I spoke some French to him.
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jesuisfatigue
 And then he was happy to see me yesterday.
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jesuisfatigue
 But then it's very insulting because he goes right to the other Frenchman and they start having a conversation next to me to explain things in French.
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jesuisfatigue
 And I'm like, I got two of those words.
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Chris
 Yeah. Well, it's like, yeah than you know, I see them in the morning, like, oh, bonjour. And they'll, you know, spout off something. And I just laugh. I'm like, you're hilarious.
00:19:12
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a whole talk yesterday with the driver on A-shift, and I was doing my French over. He's like, why do you do that? I'm like, because it just, it feels like you should know a language.
00:19:27
jesuisfatigue
 It feels, I never feel more terrible as a person is when I don't know another language at all.
00:19:35
jesuisfatigue
 I feel like I should do something. i you know if If somebody walks up to me and they say, I speak Portuguese, and I don't speak Portuguese, but I am fluent in at least two languages, I'd be happy.
00:19:44
jesuisfatigue
 you know and i just...
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Chris
 Yeah. What's like I, my wife and I started watching the pit and the, was it, it might be the first episode where there's the Nepali. and them like trying to figure out what language she speaks and everything.
00:20:00
Chris
 i'm like, oh gosh, yeah, that is like a horrible thing in yeah EMS and emergency medicine. Yeah,
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jesuisfatigue
 Yes. we the
00:20:09
jesuisfatigue
 We had a couple during of the storm who were standing outside the apartment building that we got called to for an AFA. We get there, there's no alarms, the system's reset.
00:20:19
jesuisfatigue
 So we have no... I mean, I was like, we don't know what the hell's going on. But they're just standing outside in the storm. I'm like, are they from this apartment?
00:20:25
jesuisfatigue
 So I walk up to them and I'm like, are you from this apartment? They just look at me and I say... tu parles anglais?
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jesuisfatigue
 They're like, no. said, tu parles franรงais? No.
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jesuisfatigue
 Espanol? No.
00:20:38
jesuisfatigue
 And I'm like, well, now we're screwed.
00:20:41
jesuisfatigue
 Now we're in trouble.
00:20:43
Chris
 Sprechen say Deutsch.
00:20:44
jesuisfatigue
 It definitely didn't look like it's preconceived, but I guess that's me. You know,
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jesuisfatigue
 it was, it's fun.
00:20:55
jesuisfatigue
 I still think back to that lady who had who spoke some form of Mongolian and the point that where the people in the language link were like, we don't know what this is, but it's some kind of Mongolian and we can't help you.
00:21:09
jesuisfatigue
 In the language people say, we can't help you.
00:21:11
jesuisfatigue
 It's real bad.
00:21:15
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:15
Chris
 Do you think in the other countries they're like, yeah, they're speaking English, but this is like deep South. We can't help you.
00:21:21
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, yeah. they take like ah They take a Craig Evans and they're like, I don't know what the hell this guy's talking about.
00:21:25
Chris
 Yeah, exactly. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And that's one thing I don't know with like Google translate or whatever, is there a way you can just like open it up and the person start talking and it try to figure out what they're speaking?
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jesuisfatigue
 I don't know.
00:21:47
jesuisfatigue
 That's an interesting...
00:21:50
jesuisfatigue
 question that I don't have an answer to.
00:21:55
Chris
 Cause my luck, I'd be like, Oh, you know, like they did in the pit. Oh, where are you from? Show me on the map. And they like show Salisbury. I'm like,
00:22:07
jesuisfatigue
 It does not help.
00:22:07
Chris
 Yeah. We're like three episodes in and I'm like, wow, this is a yeah very much more realistic show.
00:22:17
jesuisfatigue
 I would say the first five episodes are some of the most realistic emergency medicine stuff you're ever going to be able to see.
00:22:27
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, because obviously there's some things you just can't, you can't ever show on television, I'm sure.
00:22:29
Chris
 Yeah. yeah yeah Got that little fork fracture. was like, oh, I've seen one those in real life. It's not good.
00:22:36
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, not good. Yeah, no bueno.
00:22:41
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. They do a really good job with the medical side of it, is what I would say.
00:22:50
jesuisfatigue
 The, some of the, like, again, like the EMTs, if you see the paramedics or EMTs and they're dressed like they are, like, that doesn't happen to anymore.
00:23:01
jesuisfatigue
 And usually the cops or the paramedics are hitting on the nurses. Come on. You're missing out on those.
00:23:04
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:23:08
jesuisfatigue
 That's, that's,
00:23:09
Chris
 Well, like I saw that the one, the medic crew, their animals got stolen.
00:23:15
Chris
 It's like one of one of the two people on that crew, one would be like, that means no more pick runs for us right now.
00:23:23
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, right.
00:23:24
Chris
 And the other one is going to be the one having a fit going, oh my God, i'm going get fired. We got to call this in this and that. Yeah. But
00:23:32
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, what do want to be the EMS for meat and donuts going? Eh, I'm good.
00:23:35
Chris
 Yeah, they did what?
00:23:38
Chris
 Yeah. The only reason they get upset was wait, did I get my charger out of
00:23:42
jesuisfatigue
 Right, yeah. yeah ah man, I had a half drunk drink from Roller Farms in there, goddammit. My Alani Nu whatever the hell those people drink now.
00:23:58
jesuisfatigue
 Damn kids and damn energy drinks. Yeah.
00:24:04
Chris
 Well, you ready for a topic one?
00:24:07
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, and it's starts with a rant.
00:24:12
jesuisfatigue
 Sort of. It's a small rant.
00:24:14
jesuisfatigue
 Small rant.
Pedestrian Safety and Traffic Law
00:24:16
jesuisfatigue
 ah So i live in a part of my state i'm not gonna them whole states like this but a part of my state where they have made a conscious effort and the governor has talked about they've made a conscious effort to make it more pedestrian friendly by the way did you know that america is by far the worst country for pedestrian fatalities in the it's insane like and the numbers just keep going up not down okay anyways so
00:24:48
Chris
 Well, it's because nobody uses a crosswalk.
00:24:51
jesuisfatigue
 well so they have some of the people are talking about how cars are getting heavier in america and they're getting bigger with bigger blind spots and they're you know not teaching people to drive correctly and all of those things you know are really adding to this danger to professions but anyways
00:25:11
jesuisfatigue
 So the governors, two or three governors at Delaware at this point have said, you know, we want to make it so that the area is more walkable because we we spent 50, 70 years, you know, making everything you have to go by car because there's no way to walk places.
00:25:28
jesuisfatigue
 So they want to make things more pedestrian accessible.
00:25:28
Chris
 Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:25:32
jesuisfatigue
 So the road I live off of, the major artery that I live off of, has
00:25:37
Chris
 Is that the one that goes by anal tech?
00:25:39
jesuisfatigue
 It's 100%, which sadly no longer called Evil Tack, but 100% right down that road. And that road has a elevated pedestrian and bicycle walkway, right?
00:25:52
jesuisfatigue
 So it's separated from the roadway. It's got, it's probably a good six feet off the road. It's got a nice, you know, paved surface and it's elevated and away from the walkway, from the roadway, right?
00:26:05
jesuisfatigue
 And it goes, luckily it goes from town to,
00:26:10
jesuisfatigue
 randomly stops in the middle of like a field but if you're going that way it's it's pretty cool so where do you think i saw an asshole and by the way that road is a 50 mile an hour zone right so you should not be you should be using the elevator walkway this morning where do you think i saw a guy walking against traffic this morning where do you think he was
00:26:39
jesuisfatigue
 In the fucking roadway.
00:26:41
jesuisfatigue
 I'm like, you are, you can turn your head and see the elevated protected walkway for pedestrians.
00:26:48
jesuisfatigue
 And you're in the goddamn road. What? i What decision making does that start? Like, I think of The road that Station 1 in Salisbury is on, right, Jamaica has no sidewalks.
00:27:05
jesuisfatigue
 And people are forced to either walk in the grass, and then there are points when they can't walk in the grass anymore, and they have to walk in the road, which I think is super dangerous and it should not be like that.
00:27:15
jesuisfatigue
 I think that's unacceptable that the city and county have allowed that to continue.
00:27:20
jesuisfatigue
 Because by the way, there's a YMCA, daycare.
00:27:23
jesuisfatigue
 It's a walkway to two high schools. you know it's It should have a freaking sidewalk.
00:27:31
jesuisfatigue
 But what do you do when people are then not using the goddamn sidewalk? what
00:27:39
jesuisfatigue
 What part of your brain goes, I'm in a 50 mile an hour zone. These cars are going really fast. I'm just going to walk next to them.
00:27:46
Chris
 I will say at least they were walking against traffic.
00:27:49
jesuisfatigue
 They were walking against traffic.
00:27:50
Chris
 So, but yeah, but yeah, not to use, well I see it most of the time when I go to work, when I turn onto Lake street, there is a sidewalk, there is a bike lane, and then there is the roadway and people walk in the roadway.
00:27:51
jesuisfatigue
 I'll give him that.
00:28:12
Chris
 It's like, I don't want you to, but at least walk in a damn bike lane, but no.
00:28:19
jesuisfatigue
 Right, at least walk in the bike lane.
00:28:22
jesuisfatigue
 That's something. Oh, well, this has nothing to do with the pedestrian side, but yesterday I'm coming home from work. and Look, I was maybe a little extra irritable on my drive home for reasons, right?
00:28:34
Chris
 yeah I mean, yeah, you'd work 36 hours straight and going on 185 calls.
00:28:37
jesuisfatigue
 But the bullshit meter...
00:28:41
jesuisfatigue
 the bullshit meeper for people was very low last night driving home and this um the state redid one of our roads and they put it they fixed up the bridge and that bridge has a bike lane right it's clearly marked by clean it clearly has now it's not
00:29:04
jesuisfatigue
 hard protected but it's got you know it's got soft barriers so it's separated from the roadway where do you think i saw a car driving yesterday in the good bike lane and so then of course i can see them as i'm approaching the bridge it and it's the bridges one lane in both directions
00:29:14
Chris
 Oh, in the bike lane.
00:29:25
jesuisfatigue
 And I could see them and they're in front of me and they're in the bike lane. I'm like, this fucking moron. And then they get in front of me and the bridge is 45 miles an hour. So they get out of the bike lane and they get into my lane. And then they do 20 miles an hour over the bridge.
00:29:39
jesuisfatigue
 i wanted I wanted to pit maneuver them off the bridge. It was so, so done.
00:29:43
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. I believe a jury of your peers would ah back you on that.
00:29:49
jesuisfatigue
 I think they have to. but There's no way that anybody would find out me guilty because, oh my god, it was so bad. But yes, the pedestrian thing, ah you have to use the sidewalks.
00:30:03
jesuisfatigue
 You have to use...
00:30:05
jesuisfatigue
 Just a perfect example. I caught myself like five times during the Station 1 parking lot debacle this last month.
00:30:13
jesuisfatigue
 like because we had to cross to the road to get to our cars.
00:30:18
jesuisfatigue
 And I was like, oh, I'll just cross it. And then I was like, that's the number one thing I bitch about. There's a crosswalk six feet from me.
00:30:26
jesuisfatigue
 I'll just go to the crosswalk. And I would stop and I would turn to the crosswalk and I would cross there.
00:30:31
jesuisfatigue
 Didn't help when the guys, when people would still run the lights at me, but you know, at least I would die in the crosswalk. You know, it's, I don't know how you fix that.
00:30:40
Chris
 Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. I mean, the number of jaywalkers and it's like when they put up those, um the fencing all up and down coastal highway in Ocean City, and then they started to do it on 50 in Salisbury. And people are like, what about the pedestrians? It's like, well, if they use the crosswalk, they've got a clear way.
00:31:01
Chris
 That's where where we are herding them to where they're supposed to be.
00:31:06
jesuisfatigue
 There's a place they're supposed to cross.
00:31:08
jesuisfatigue
 That's where we want them to cross.
00:31:10
Chris
 Yeah. Maybe if we chipped people and they tried to use something other than the crosswalk and they got a mild electric shock.
00:31:23
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, then all the firefighters who have to like take care of patients in the middle of roadways. God damn
00:31:27
Chris
 Yeah. i they' Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:31:33
jesuisfatigue
 Well, we're having a
00:31:36
jesuisfatigue
 a heated debate in my town because Newark is a college town, right? we That's all the reason.
00:31:47
jesuisfatigue
 At this point, the only reason the town exists is because the university.
00:31:51
jesuisfatigue
 And recently we had a tragedy where two people stole a box truck and they fled from the police and they killed a graduate student and injured like nine people on Main Street.
00:32:01
jesuisfatigue
 Because Main Street is a...
00:32:03
jesuisfatigue
 And the pedestrians were in the right in this situation. They were crossing the crosswalk and this guy was looking for the police and hit the pedestrians.
00:32:12
jesuisfatigue
 But the street is... you know, i it's just restaurants and stores and it's, it's, it's main street and it's bars and it's, it's not a place.
00:32:25
jesuisfatigue
 It's a place where people are going to cross constantly. and there are lots and lots of crosswalks on the street. And it's, you know, a very hard rule of you have to stop for pedestrians and but people still, so don't follow the rules.
00:32:36
jesuisfatigue
 And it's, it's,
00:32:37
Chris
 Well, mean, that's like New Hampshire. Pedestrians will walk in front of you.
00:32:40
jesuisfatigue
 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:41
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. They don't care.
00:32:43
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. But there's, this is the second tragedy they've had like this because last year, another person was fleeing the police, ran down main street, killed a pedestrian.
00:32:54
jesuisfatigue
 So the conversation has been had to close the road to cars and I'm all about it.
00:33:04
jesuisfatigue
 I'm like, you know, hell yeah, close the road to cars. Cause the way the town works is there's two parallel roads to main street that you could divert traffic to that they can use that.
00:33:16
jesuisfatigue
 And yeah, it's probably gonna fuck up traffic a little bit, but they won't be on main street and you'll keep pedestrian safe.
00:33:22
jesuisfatigue
 The businesses will be happy. You know, all of those things, the fire department, the Newark fire department.
00:33:30
jesuisfatigue
 Oh, we you we can't, we can't do anything. There's nothing can be done because we have to be able to respond to these calls. And I'm like, exactly.
00:33:41
jesuisfatigue
 Well, don't you think Newark fire department that you would respond to less calls of pedestrians getting run over if there were no cars for them to get run over? And yes, there would still be a way for the fire department to get through to the business addresses.
00:33:55
jesuisfatigue
 We're not, no one's, no one's gonna be like we're going to put concrete walls up with barbed wire and minefields to stop the fire department.
00:34:05
jesuisfatigue
 the fire department should be the ones going yes let us work with the partners and say come up with a safety plan you know right we should be endorsing pedestrian safety and how thought you know risk mitigation and prevention in our town that's our freaking duty that's our responsibility
00:34:09
Chris
 Yes. Yeah. We endorse this.
00:34:23
Chris
 Wait. So the fire department should be focused on community risk reduction.
00:34:29
jesuisfatigue
 at a certain level yes you're trying to bait me
00:34:33
jesuisfatigue
 i not I'm not biting that hook.
00:34:36
Chris
 But yeah, no, I agree. It's, uh, i don't know. but I think you and I have discussed this before. i mean, we are just a car driven society and it's, it's awful.
00:34:50
jesuisfatigue
 It is awful.
Critique of Car Culture in America
00:34:52
jesuisfatigue
 It is awful. And it's... it's I don't want to get into the politics side of it.
00:35:00
jesuisfatigue
 But it has become this like the identity to be an American. Like I have this conversation at at work all the time because people make fun of my car at work.
00:35:09
jesuisfatigue
 Like, I can't believe you drive that. When I got my new car, one of the people on my shift said, I can't believe you got a smaller car.
00:35:16
jesuisfatigue
 And my answer is, why wouldn't I get a smaller car? if
00:35:20
jesuisfatigue
 If they made a single seat car,
00:35:24
jesuisfatigue
 that was as fuel efficient as possible, that only had a trunk, like it had enough room in the back for me to put my stuff, I would buy that.
00:35:31
jesuisfatigue
 Like, you know, what are you talking about?
00:35:35
jesuisfatigue
 A car is a conveyance. It should be the most efficient conveyance from point A to point B, and that's it.
00:35:41
jesuisfatigue
 You know, instead it's part of my identity to drive a big pickup truck and spend $38,000 in gas a year.
00:35:54
jesuisfatigue
 and the end of
00:35:54
Chris
 What's like, I mean, I've told you before the people at work that, you know, are like, you're going to walk to like burn it white. I was like, it's a mile. So yes.
00:36:02
jesuisfatigue
 Right. ya Now, I will say, because Salisbury is one of the towns that I'm talking about, it is not a walking-friendly town.
00:36:11
jesuisfatigue
 like There is no... great way to to walk around that town it is and like it's it's my problem with the bike lanes in salisbury is they were never laid out correctly like no the bike lanes should be a conveyance like this gets you from this area to this area safely instead it's this gets you from this block to this block and then you have to go on these other roads and then you get you from this block to this but like it was never right they never thought about a conveyance across it like there's
00:36:42
jesuisfatigue
 There's no reason that the Riverwalk in Salisbury isn't a miles-long pedestrian walkway through the town.
00:36:51
jesuisfatigue
 It should be.
00:36:52
Chris
 Well, I mean, Remember, there was that talk of the bike path that was supposed to go from like Fruitland to north of Delmar.
00:36:59
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, yeah but yeah.
00:37:02
jesuisfatigue
 Because look at how mad people got about the bike lane in Carroll Street.
00:37:10
jesuisfatigue
 And my argument against it was that it wasn't a well thought out bike lane, not that we shouldn't have a bike lane.
00:37:14
Chris
 Right. Exactly. Yeah.
00:37:17
jesuisfatigue
 It doesn't go anywhere, right?
00:37:18
Chris
 Well, now you have a city leader that's I'm going to tear that down.
00:37:22
Chris
 It's like. that's they said ah I I don't see how that helps anyone, but okay.
00:37:28
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, I'm lucky and spoiled that Newark, because of the college and all of the foot traffic and the bike traffic that they've made
00:37:38
jesuisfatigue
 strides towards making the tent but that should be the goal like you should you shouldn't be like i'm gonna drive to this to the restaurant that's five minutes from my house right i could just walk like i my mother we were talking about leaving for the trip on tuesday star wednesday and the hotel she got is like i don't know two blocks from the the port and she's like yeah i'm gonna rent a car or i'm gonna get an uber and we're gonna we're gonna go to the port in the morning i'm like it's two blocks
00:38:09
jesuisfatigue
 if you didn't bring 38 fucking pieces of luggage, you could just walk there. What are you talking about?
00:38:15
jesuisfatigue
 Just walk. She's like, you can see the port from the from your the hotel, but it's a far couple blocks.
00:38:21
jesuisfatigue
 I'm like, it's a couple blocks. I'm just going to walk.
00:38:26
jesuisfatigue
 it's it's It's bonkers.
00:38:30
Chris
 What's one thing I noticed to give your state props. I had had to go to Lewis, Lewis, le Lewis, Delaware.
00:38:42
Chris
 And, um, yeah, but they were, there were new, um, which called it developments being put in, but they hadn't even started building houses yet, but they already had the walking paths paved and set out and laid.
00:38:57
Chris
 I'm like, wow, they've, yeah, that's like step one. That's smart.
00:39:01
jesuisfatigue
 And they're connecting them all.
00:39:03
jesuisfatigue
 yeah they've got that uh bike lane that's going from lewis to georgetown and it's but three quarters of the way done right now and it's they're finished they're starting the finishing part right now it's amazing like my wife and i stayed there last year off the just a place that was right off the bike path we just biked into town all all week we never we never drove anywhere because you you could bike into town
00:39:29
jesuisfatigue
 we there's There's all kinds of little you know bike stations where you just lock your bike up.
00:39:34
jesuisfatigue
 And then we walked around town and we got our bikes, went the next place.
00:39:39
jesuisfatigue
 It was awesome.
00:39:43
jesuisfatigue
 That should be the goal.
00:39:43
Chris
 You would think, yeah. Yeah.
00:39:46
jesuisfatigue
 You know, because people bitch about traffic.
00:39:46
Chris
 What's like, yeah. I mean, it's, you know, like my, uh, oldest goes to ah university of Maryland and, you know you talk about university of Delaware, you would think Salisbury, like around Salisbury university would be where the pedestrian stuff would start and merge out from there.
00:40:09
jesuisfatigue
 I've always
00:40:09
Chris
 And other, other than the underpass under 13, There's not anything really pedestrian friendly in that area.
00:40:17
jesuisfatigue
 i've always thought that about Salisbury University, that it's so... Coming from Newark, where like businesses work very hard to attract the college kids and businesses lobby the city leaders to make it pedestrian-friendly for these college kids.
00:40:34
jesuisfatigue
 the The thing they don't want is college kids driving everywhere, right? They don't want them having cars on campus and all that stuff.
00:40:40
jesuisfatigue
 So business and like the university put shuttle buses in so they can actually go to the bars, you know, and to the restaurants, into the store.
00:40:50
jesuisfatigue
 There's a shuttle bus from the university to the grocery store, you know.
00:40:55
jesuisfatigue
 that's a win for the grocery store, right?
00:40:58
jesuisfatigue
 Like that they, they think it's seemingly think it's good.
00:41:03
jesuisfatigue
 And then you go to Salisbury and it's like, I'm at the university and I, there's nothing here. There's just now slowly starting to be some restaurants, but they're all on 13 and they're not super accessible from the school, right?
00:41:17
jesuisfatigue
 Like there's one walkway and it's all the way down one end of the campus, right?
00:41:22
jesuisfatigue
 You can't go from the other side.
00:41:23
Chris
 Oh yeah, because yeah the intersection of college and 13 has like one and a half crosswalks or ah yeah yeah marked crosswalks.
00:41:34
Chris
 It's like, but but how do we do, so we go over here and then we frog her to here.
00:41:40
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:43
jesuisfatigue
 It's something that bugs me a lot about our country. You know?
00:41:50
jesuisfatigue
 and I don't know that it's ever going It's not going to get better in my lifetime, but boy, it is something that...
00:41:56
jesuisfatigue
 You know? Like the governor of Delaware, the last governor of Delaware said... and I want you to be able to go from Glasgow and Newark are like two towns that they're not connected.
00:42:06
Chris
 Is that where they invented the comma score?
00:42:06
jesuisfatigue
 They're, you know, probably 10 miles away from each other. And his.
00:42:14
jesuisfatigue
 And he, he said, I want you to, yeah, they invented it at the Glasgow medical aid unit. That is the, is place the place that drives us. So it says Newark EMS, but anyways,
00:42:25
jesuisfatigue
 he he wanted He wanted to have a pedestrian walkway that goes from Glasgow to Newark and that never has to touch a road. And people were like, yeah, we're all about it. But in Salisbury, they'd be like, why the fuck would you ever do that? That's almost eight miles. i It's insane.
00:42:41
jesuisfatigue
 Connect your towns and will keep your people safe and they'll use the walkways.
00:42:45
Chris
 Right. yeah ah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's like, I mean, I people complain all the time about parking downtown and, you know, stuff like that.
00:42:53
Chris
 it It kills me because like, so I, especially now go to quite a few meetings downtown and ah I would walk, but unfortunately sometimes I have to be ready to respond to a call.
00:43:06
Chris
 So I do want my work vehicle somewhat near, but I, my usual route is I go and I drove, drive up the plaza. And if there's a parking spot anywhere there, ah park.
00:43:19
Chris
 Then I go by the GOB if there's anything there. And then I go down main street. And it's like, yeah, if I can, yeah, if I'm within three blocks, I'm happy.
00:43:30
Chris
 And then people are like, yeah, I circled around the GOB five times and I finally found one. to there's There's eight of them on the plaza.
00:43:41
jesuisfatigue
 Well, parking downtown Salisbury is...
00:43:47
jesuisfatigue
 It's an issue.
00:43:48
Chris
 Well, if I hadn't been in uniform the other day, I would have flattened somebody's tires.
00:43:48
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:43:53
Chris
 Because there's those spots in in front of the government office building that are back in only.
00:43:59
jesuisfatigue
 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:43:59
Chris
 And there were two cars nosed in. And one of them was nosed in and like double parked. I was like, oh my God, just let's flatten every single one of your damn tires.
00:44:09
jesuisfatigue
 Don't you want to just retire from the fire department and just enforce parking? Doesn't that sound amazing?
00:44:16
jesuisfatigue
 like And I want to enforce it with Judge Dredge style but enforcement.
00:44:21
jesuisfatigue
 I don't want i don't want to like give tickets. I want to be like, you have been found guilty. The sentence is death.
00:44:28
jesuisfatigue
 or Or where he blows up the car. It's your 10th ticket.
00:44:32
jesuisfatigue
 I'm blowing up your car.
00:44:35
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. There's a lady at my gym.
00:44:36
Chris
 yeah first one First time, I'll give you a warning. But if I come to your vehicle and I see in the register that this is not your first time, you're either getting towed or destroyed.
00:44:50
jesuisfatigue
 There's a lady at my gym who she has a handicap sticker. She parks in a handicap spot, but she parks in it incorrectly. So she, what she does is she parks, you know how they have the van accessible little area.
00:45:03
jesuisfatigue
 She parks in the van accessible area, which means that the person on the other side of them doesn't have the van accessible area for their handicap spot.
00:45:12
jesuisfatigue
 Also, you're going to the gym. Why are you... You don't need Whatever. But she does it every time, and it drives me getting daddy.
00:45:21
jesuisfatigue
 She's from fucking Pennsylvania.
00:45:21
Chris
 but That's the thing. I mean, yeah, see, and in something like that, it should be one of those. I see you ah parked in the van accessible. why You thought you were handicapped now. Just wait.
00:45:40
Chris
 yeah I would gladly drive around. Yeah, in my little cart or whatever and or walk. I just walk it depending on the area.
00:45:48
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, I just walk it, I go right up to fire lanes, and I would blow up your car.
00:45:53
jesuisfatigue
 I'm like, oh, we warned you, this is a car on fire lane.
00:45:59
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You get one warning. The fucking liquor store in front of my house, there's a neighborhood, or a shopping center in front house, and there's a liquor store in there, and they're on the terrible curve, and they get deliveries in the fire lane.
00:46:18
jesuisfatigue
 Behind the building is a delivery alleyway, that which which there but their facility has a door to. Get your deliveries in the rear, goddammit.
00:46:36
Chris
 Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or even maybe not start with maybe the second offense would be like, I bust out your driver's side window and then go to the windshield.
00:46:48
jesuisfatigue
 No, I just think ah we set your car on fire in a fire lane.
00:46:52
jesuisfatigue
 And if you're sitting in it, you better get the fuck out because your car's going to be on fire.
00:46:52
Chris
 Hmm. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:56
jesuisfatigue
 and That's my favorite. Well, I'm sitting in the car, so it's okay. Nope, it's still a fire lane. It's not ah' not for you.
00:47:05
jesuisfatigue
 Especially when you're six feet away from a spot, for God's sakes.
00:47:08
Chris
 oh my gosh, yeah. I gotta go in and get my Little Caesars.
00:47:13
jesuisfatigue
 i Sometimes I see like an older gentleman picking up his wife in the fire lane. I understand that, right?
00:47:20
jesuisfatigue
 You're picking up your wife. She's got some mobility issues.
00:47:24
jesuisfatigue
 Maybe we should come up with some sort of system for that. But then if we do that, people are just going to abuse it.
00:47:29
jesuisfatigue
 You know? Yeah.
00:47:31
Chris
 yeah yeah that ya yeah Yeah.
00:47:33
jesuisfatigue
 Right over.
00:47:36
Chris
 But yeah, pedestrians. And that's the thing. If we see pedestrians not utilizing the correct pedestrian routes, I believe we should be able to paintball them.
00:47:45
jesuisfatigue
 Yes. Or at least taser them so that they flop around in the road little bit.
00:47:47
Chris
 oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:48
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:58
Chris
 She'll stop me because I'm like, I want to yell at this person. She said, don't do it.
00:48:02
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:48:02
Chris
 Like the other day. Oh, my God. She had to rein me in. We're walking through our neighborhood and there's a small child on a bicycle without a helmet.
00:48:17
Chris
 15 feet behind the child is the parent carrying the helmet.
00:48:25
Chris
 The rage that filled me.
00:48:29
Chris
 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:29
jesuisfatigue
 Justifiable rage. Justifiable rage. I'm on your side. That parent should be painful to death.
00:48:35
Chris
 hu Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:48:38
jesuisfatigue
 Death by painful.
00:48:41
jesuisfatigue
 Takes a while. It's painful.
00:48:44
Chris
 If you freeze them, it doesn't.
00:48:48
jesuisfatigue
 <unk> where That
Spider-Man: The Altruistic Hero
00:48:50
jesuisfatigue
 shit hurts.
00:48:51
jesuisfatigue
 I've been hit by a frostbite ball. That hurts.
00:48:55
jesuisfatigue
 Well, ready to move on to topic two?
00:48:57
Chris
 Sure. Topic two. So recently i watched. I got to get it right. the animated friendly neighborhood Spider-Man on Disney plus.
00:49:10
jesuisfatigue
 Which you highly recommended.
00:49:10
Chris
 And yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:49:11
jesuisfatigue
 I haven't watched it.
00:49:12
Chris
 But it just reignited in me. I mean, I, Spider-Man is probably the best Marvel hero.
00:49:21
Chris
 He's just genuine. He cares about everybody. he,
00:49:28
jesuisfatigue
 Oh, you mean best as in he's the best person.
00:49:31
Chris
 yeah. Like, yeah, his, yeah. Yeah.
00:49:33
Chris
 person, his, you know, creed.
00:49:36
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, that's... and And I think if you run that out further, I would say he's probably, of DC and Marvel, the best person overall.
00:49:48
jesuisfatigue
 Right? Like, and his lesson is...
00:49:49
Chris
 Yeah. I, I, yeah. I mean, yeah.
00:49:51
jesuisfatigue
 I mean, if you listen to Stan Lee's interviews, he loves stuer Spider-Man more than any other. you know, hero. No, yeah, Spider-Man is the best, right?
00:50:02
jesuisfatigue
 His creed is the best.
00:50:04
jesuisfatigue
 Great power comes great responsibility.
00:50:07
jesuisfatigue
 Your neighborhood dreadly Spider-Man, like...
00:50:07
Chris
 Yeah. yeah yeah Yeah. Like, yeah, I've got these powers. I have to use them for, you know, to help people.
00:50:17
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, and and I don't know the comics well enough, but I'm sure they've tried it, but they never made Spider-Man bad.
00:50:27
Chris
 I mean, if, well, for a little while with the whole,
00:50:30
jesuisfatigue
 You had the Venom suit thing, right?
00:50:32
Chris
 yeah But again, He realized how big a jerk he was being and fought it.
00:50:41
jesuisfatigue
 Right, like...
00:50:42
jesuisfatigue
 Like, if Batman broke bad, you'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.
00:50:49
jesuisfatigue
 If Spider-Man breaks bad, you're like, no, this is...
00:50:51
jesuisfatigue
 No, that you can't have this.
00:50:55
jesuisfatigue
 I think the comic book world and the fans would lose their shit if you made Spider-Man bad.
00:51:01
Chris
 yeah yeah Yeah, i mean, he's just he's just a genuine he's a kid.
00:51:09
jesuisfatigue
 You know, I really liked the Into the Spider-Verse.
00:51:17
jesuisfatigue
 And one of the things I really liked about Into the Spider-Verse was I liked Peter Parker as an adult.
00:51:26
jesuisfatigue
 I liked that concept of what that led to and that um Peter Parker had some issues, but he was still Peter Parker underneath all of that, which I thought was pretty cool.
00:51:37
Chris
 Yeah. yeah Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:44
jesuisfatigue
 Like he still, still generally cared, even though the world had shit on him a lot, you know, which yeah, Spider-Man is definitely the best.
00:51:53
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Going out web slinging in his bathroom.
00:51:59
Chris
 Yeah. Well, it's like the run a comics right now. Spider-Man. I just did start reading. It's um ah bonkers, you know, cuckoo comic stuff, but there's some threat and Dr. Strange can't step up for it this time. So they pick or Strange picks Peter as Earth's champion because of, you know, his do good and everything.
00:52:29
Chris
 So he gets some he gets like some of the strange powers or whatever. but And one of the things is he gets, i can't remember what they call it. But anyway, it it will bring him back to life if he dies.
00:52:41
Chris
 Cause they know, and strange tells him me like, you're going to die with all eight of these fights. So at least this way you'll be brought back. and he And Pete's like, okay.
00:52:52
jesuisfatigue
 Right. Yeah.
00:52:53
Chris
 Yeah, just, okay, I'll do
00:52:54
Chris
 I'll step up. And like one of them was like psychological torture. And know, they've done this before, but the person was like, yeah, you know, if you hold this sphere, it will run you through the worst possible scenarios of everybody in your life and like losing them and everything like that.
00:53:17
Chris
 And Pete got done and the two people were talking and it was, you know, oh, well, you know, how long did he last? And she said, you know, most people last maybe a hundred strange. The last time lasted a couple hundred. Okay. Yeah.
00:53:33
Chris
 She's like, Parker lasted like thousands of times and he was still holding onto the ball when I stopped. Cause he just kept feeling that, you know, sadness. So other people didn't have to.
00:53:48
Chris
 It's like, God, Pete is, you know, he's the best of us.
00:53:53
jesuisfatigue
 Do you think we identify with Peter Parker because ultimately we became firefighters because we wanted to be heroes?
00:54:03
jesuisfatigue
 Do you think the kind of person that we are is exemplified more in Peter Parker? like Or we want to be.
00:54:12
jesuisfatigue
 like I would say we not we are, we want to be.
00:54:16
jesuisfatigue
 like Because everybody who became a firefighter didn't become a firefighter because you're like, oh, I like getting up at 2 o'clock in the morning.
00:54:23
Chris
 yeah I'm going to make millions of dollars and yeah.
00:54:23
jesuisfatigue
 ah you Right. Everybody thought, I'm going to be a hero. I'm going to do heroic things.
00:54:31
jesuisfatigue
 And to us, Peter Parker is that.
00:54:31
Chris
 And and it yeah. Yeah. And it's the, I know a lot of us, it's the, I've seen how shitty things can be and I don't want somebody else to have to go through that.
00:54:44
Chris
 So yeah, let me, you know, take care of you at two o'clock in the morning. Let me, you know, try to save part of your house, you know?
00:54:54
jesuisfatigue
 I've always felt that's kind of my role in life is I see things so that other people don't have to, if that makes sense.
00:55:03
jesuisfatigue
 And that feels very much our thing.
00:55:03
Chris
 Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah.
00:55:06
Chris
 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, I know I can struggle through it, so I'll do it so somebody else doesn't have to.
00:55:10
jesuisfatigue
 So maybe that's why we love...
00:55:16
jesuisfatigue
 Right, and maybe that's why we particularly love Spider-Man.
00:55:20
jesuisfatigue
 He represents, to me, he's always represented that stuff.
00:55:24
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, just just be.
00:55:28
jesuisfatigue
 It's also why they don't make a bad Spider-Man movie.
00:55:33
Chris
 I don't know. Spider-Man three was pretty bad.
00:55:37
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, but Spider-Man 1 and 2 were great because it was just Spider-Man.
00:55:41
jesuisfatigue
 Like, they weren't messing with the Spider-Man side of it.
00:55:47
jesuisfatigue
 Spider-Man 3 is bad because they messed with Spider-Man.
00:55:54
jesuisfatigue
 But it's easy to make a
00:55:54
Chris
 Spider-Man's just the. Yeah. He's the lovable dork. that Yeah.
00:55:59
jesuisfatigue
 Right, because you can make a bad Batman movie because fundamentally Batman has darkness.
00:56:05
jesuisfatigue
 And if you lean into the darkness, it's kind of a bad movie.
00:56:08
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's a whole, you know, the the Batman Superman conversation, you know, deep down Superman's a good guy and deep down Batman's not a good guy. Whereas deep down Spider-Man is a really good guy.
00:56:24
Chris
 Regardless, Spider-Man's just Peter's, you know, taking care of Aunt May and, you still going to school and doing everything he can.
00:56:36
jesuisfatigue
 Right, there's a conversation that Peter Parker doesn't get bit by the spider, and he still does heroic things.
00:56:46
Chris
 Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, yeah.
00:56:52
Chris
 I would think Pete would still, yeah. Try to do something. Like I'm sure he would end up working at, you know, Oscore or something and, you know, developing things, doing, that's the thing, all the things he like works on and tinkers and it's, it's so he can better help people. It's not so he can better himself ever.
00:57:14
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. And, you know, he becomes a volunteer fireman because he doesn't become Spider-Man. Like there's that, that I think that's a fundamental part of Peter Parker is he's helping people, whether he has the power or, you know, it's great power comes great responsibility, but also little power still brings responsibility.
00:57:36
Chris
 Yeah. So in the yeah earth eight to eight.
00:57:39
Chris
 Yeah. Pete's probably a volunteer firefighter or a paramedic or you know something.
00:57:43
jesuisfatigue
 Right. Yeah. You know, he's doing something to help people no matter what.
00:57:49
jesuisfatigue
 It's just part of his dynamic.
00:57:49
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So he would be probably the most altruistic hero.
00:58:00
jesuisfatigue
 I don't think there's even, in the Marvel side, I don't think anybody's even close.
00:58:05
jesuisfatigue
 but Like, Strange only does it for his own personal gain.
00:58:12
jesuisfatigue
 right He only becomes a hero because he has to
00:58:16
Chris
 Yeah. I think. Hmm.
00:58:18
jesuisfatigue
 Right? Reed Richards never really becomes hero.
00:58:25
jesuisfatigue
 There's a really interesting argument about Reed Richards is has no altruism. He has no humanity.
00:58:31
jesuisfatigue
 It's just he can do things that
00:58:32
Chris
 He's... Yeah, he's just science.
00:58:34
jesuisfatigue
 and he but he's driven to do the science.
00:58:36
Chris
 It's just the science.
00:58:40
jesuisfatigue
 Then you get to the X-Men and boy, that doesn't...
00:58:42
Chris
 No. No, there's no altruism there.
00:58:43
jesuisfatigue
 You have that. Right.
00:58:47
Chris
 And i mean I mean, Captain America, but he's... kind of blinded by his ideals.
00:58:54
jesuisfatigue
 Right. He's a little closer than probably...
00:58:58
jesuisfatigue
 But, you know, the thing about Captain America is he's a stereotype of himself.
00:59:06
jesuisfatigue
 I don't think you can say that about Peter Parker.
00:59:11
jesuisfatigue
 And then I, you know, Hulk, don't even get me started. You know, all of them, you feel like, oh, they had this thrust thrust upon them.
00:59:19
jesuisfatigue
 Peter, you feel like, ah even if it's not the thrust upon him, he's still doing it.
00:59:26
jesuisfatigue
 You know, I think that's kind of why he resonates with a lot of people. He's the everyday hero.
00:59:37
Chris
 yeah I mean, he's, you know, lighthearted when he is going through stuff and, know, he's also not just a, you know, punch harder, punch faster. It's yeah.
00:59:52
Chris
 He thinks about things.
00:59:54
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, and I mean, got the coolest rogues gallery of all the enemies.
01:00:04
jesuisfatigue
 And MJ. And the other one, Gwen.
01:00:07
Chris
 Black cat. Yeah. Gwen. who
01:00:11
jesuisfatigue
 We don't, you know.
01:00:14
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, I always, I mean, going back to even my comic collecting days, Spider-Man was always on the list of comics to collect.
01:00:20
Chris
 Oh, yeah. Yep. Yeah.
01:00:24
jesuisfatigue
 And every iteration of Spider-Man, it's still Spider-Man.
01:00:33
jesuisfatigue
 It's kind of interesting. never really thought about it like that, but it's...
01:00:37
jesuisfatigue
 Because, like, everybody else they mess with.
01:00:41
jesuisfatigue
 And maybe that's a Marvel, like, like there's like some secret document of you do don't mess with spider you know Spider-Man.
01:00:47
Chris
 Yeah. Well, Stan Lee will come out of the grave and kill you.
01:00:51
jesuisfatigue
 Right. Right. Right.
01:00:55
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. We're going to.
01:00:56
Chris
 Yeah. Oh, this Spider-Man, we're going to have him, you know, it's going to start out and he's going to be the one to kill Uncle Ben.
01:01:04
Chris
 Stanley, you just raises up. Yeah, the Lee Claw is here.
01:01:11
jesuisfatigue
 yeah yeah it's uh it's kind of interesting to think about it that way like you don't ever think about what ultimately makes a superhero like the the ones you love the ones you love like you love batman yeah because he's cool and when we were kids like we were born in the perfect time for batman
01:01:37
jesuisfatigue
 Right. ah You know, we had the movies, the Michael Keaton movies, which I don't care what you say.
01:01:42
jesuisfatigue
 They're badass. Right.
01:01:46
jesuisfatigue
 You know, and then we had the animated show.
01:01:51
jesuisfatigue
 We were the perfect, perfect time frame for the Batman.
01:01:55
jesuisfatigue
 But if you ultimately broke it down, you'd be like, he's not really a good guy.
01:02:01
jesuisfatigue
 You know, he's not... His ideals are not my ideals in any situation.
01:02:06
jesuisfatigue
 um'm never... You know... I'm never... Gonna be Batman, I hope. Because I feel like...
01:02:13
jesuisfatigue
 It's the same thing with the Punisher. i like I liked the Punisher comic books. But I'm never gonna be the Punisher.
01:02:16
Chris
 Yeah. No, no, that's a sad existence.
01:02:17
jesuisfatigue
 Right? Right. I think ultimately... ah You can't identify with Superman. Because he's... Basically a god.
01:02:29
jesuisfatigue
 Right? Like...
01:02:29
Chris
 Yeah. He's not a man. He's not a man.
01:02:31
jesuisfatigue
 Right, there's no there's no there's no altruism in Superman because he's impervious and invincible and he's basically a god, right?
01:02:41
jesuisfatigue
 There's no risk for him to do these things. It's nice that he does these things and if he ever did not do those things, it would be bad, but he's a, ultimately, there's no risk for him.
01:02:50
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Whereas somebody like Pete. Yeah. He could die anytime.
01:02:57
jesuisfatigue
 Right. Yeah. he Ultimately, his quote unquote powers aren't that impressive. And they always are. It's kind of funny because, you know, when I think of s Spider-Man, i always think the most important Spider-Man of power is Spider-Sense.
01:03:11
jesuisfatigue
 channel I don't think real spiders have, but, you know, you know, but he's got Spider-Sense.
01:03:17
jesuisfatigue
 And then in the movies, he still gets hit a lot.
01:03:20
jesuisfatigue
 You know, it's like like the whole point is he can tell that this is dangerous.
01:03:26
jesuisfatigue
 But he does it anyways.
01:03:27
Chris
 Yeah. Was that they made fun of it in the most recent Marvel movie about it? Like, oh, you're Peter Tingle.
01:03:34
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. Right. yeah
01:03:37
jesuisfatigue
 it's ah Yeah. i'm um I'm with you on that. Spider-Man is...
01:03:44
jesuisfatigue
 And I'm sure somebody's going to be like, oh, well this character. and i'm like I just don't know the characters enough.
01:03:48
Chris
 Yeah. yeah Yeah, I agree. Yeah.
01:03:52
Chris
 yeah And if there is somebody better, please let us know.
01:03:54
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah, let us know. Yeah.
01:03:56
Chris
 Let us know in the Discord or on Twitter at CLTruid22.
01:04:00
jesuisfatigue
 Well, I want you to just get a billboard.
01:04:03
jesuisfatigue
 us Let us know on a billboard.
01:04:05
Chris
 That's true. Yeah. That's a much better way.
01:04:10
jesuisfatigue
 Well, I think we've reached the conclusion of this pod.
01:04:15
jesuisfatigue
 When we come back, I don't even know when this one goes up because I think we're doing this.
01:04:18
Chris
 This one goes up on the 19th.
01:04:20
Chris
 We'll be back on the June 2nd.
01:04:25
jesuisfatigue
 Oh, well, we might have to to record a second one then.
01:04:29
Chris
 Or i also i also found a flash drive of like the first 20 episodes from the first season.
01:04:29
jesuisfatigue
 What are we going to do?
01:04:38
jesuisfatigue
 Because I come back on the 31st and I work on the 1st.
01:04:45
jesuisfatigue
 Because I'm an idiot.
01:04:45
Chris
 yeah Nah, we'll figure it out.
01:04:48
jesuisfatigue
 Yeah. But either way,
01:04:51
jesuisfatigue
 ah Be safe out there, folks.
01:04:54
jesuisfatigue
 It's about to...
01:04:54
Chris
 Stay in the damn crosswalks and the sidewalks.
01:04:58
jesuisfatigue
 Use your goddamn crosswalks. And be more like your neighborhood Spider-Man every day.
01:05:02
Chris
 Yeah, yep. Yeah, take care, folks.
01:05:04
jesuisfatigue
 Because it's your neighborhood.