Podcast Introduction and Ron's Plumbing Woes
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Chris
 Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Draft Podcast. I'm Chris.
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whoneedsmoney
 And I'm Ron. I'm watching.
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Chris
 Ron just dealt with a plumber.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two days a plumber.
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whoneedsmoney
 Two days. Well, yeah, it came out Monday.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, I called them. Saturday.
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whoneedsmoney
 And I said, it's not an emergency because if you tell it's emergency, boy, oh boy, they pay extra.
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Chris
 Oh, yeah, it's like double time.
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whoneedsmoney
 So I said, it's not emergency. I want hot water heaters not working. I'm going to work.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, it broke while I was at work. So I'm like, well, it's only affecting my wife right now.
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whoneedsmoney
 And so they said, okay, we'll have a guy out there one day.
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whoneedsmoney
 He'll have everything to fix the water heater.
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whoneedsmoney
 So that sounds great.
House Maintenance Hilarity
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whoneedsmoney
 And they're like, well, what kind of water heater is I said, well, you installed it. So you should probably know what kind of water heater it is. Right. Like.
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whoneedsmoney
 So he comes out. He's like, Oh, I think there's a lot of sediment in the system and it's just, it's built up around thermostat. We could replace the thermostat for X amount of dollars or for X amount of dollars more, we can replace the whole thing.
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whoneedsmoney
 It wasn't that much more X to not make it worth it.
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Chris
 right and assuming the new one would be more energy efficient and yeah great or at least say hey i can run and get it in a half hour
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whoneedsmoney
 He said, but I don't have.
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whoneedsmoney
 Right. But he's like, I don't have the new water heater with me. I'm like, well, you were told that. I assume that if you're getting a water heater fix that you know is like 10 years old, you're planning on replacing it. Right. They only last like eight to 10 years.
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whoneedsmoney
 Right. Yeah. Their shop is five minutes from my house. You know, it's not like I live in the middle of nowhere.
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Chris
 Yeah, what, what do you have to like call somebody, oh yeah, Frank, we got to build another water heater.
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whoneedsmoney
 yeah so they're like oh I'll have to come back and of course they're like we'll come back Wednesday and that was of course a no-go so that ends up being the day we'll give you a four hour window of course they never show up at the beginning of the four hour window they always show up at the well end of it yeah it's like come on man you kill me here look I busted my hump to get home go to the gym get all that knocked out before
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Chris
 Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, the last like two thirds of it.
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whoneedsmoney
 So I'd be here for him because Sherry's got to work, you know, she's working from home, but she's working.
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whoneedsmoney
 So it's just a nightmare.
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Chris
 Well, I'm sure the dogs were a ton of help with him.
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whoneedsmoney
 Actually, they were pretty good. We like we lock them up in their bedroom and they're fine.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, the new embark once till he comes back in after everything's done, it says as as I'm starting to log on to this, he says, oh, I got to take a picture of it.
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Chris
 Did you like get in the picture and smile?
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Here's my ass. He just took a chunk out of my wallet, so...
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Chris
 oh But now you have sweet sweet hot water.
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Chris
 Or I guess you will.
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whoneedsmoney
 I said when I... Yeah, he said it in about an hour.
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whoneedsmoney
 I said when I bought the last one that I was not gonna live in this house by the time the next one had to be put in. I was wrong. I'm still here.
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whoneedsmoney
 And now I can't afford to move, so I'm stuck.
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Chris
 All that because of a water heater.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, and the air conditioner I had to replace.
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Chris
 Well, think of the resale value you just added. I mean, you know, it's got a new water heater that doubles the resale value.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that puts an extra 50 bucks on it.
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Chris
 Is it cool to have like a lightning bolt on it or anything?
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whoneedsmoney
 Nope, nope, nope.
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Chris
 No, no racing stripes.
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whoneedsmoney
 I did get off because it had a dent in it.
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whoneedsmoney
 He's he's like, ah it has a dent in it. It doesn't affect the warranty. It just has a cosmetic defect. I said, I don't care what my water heater looks like.
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whoneedsmoney
 I'm not going to.
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Chris
 Yeah. How many people are like, hey, glad you stopped by tonight. Hey, we got a new water heater. Want to take a look?
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whoneedsmoney
 yeah Come look at this water heater. I've dressed it up in costumes.
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Chris
 Yeah. Hey, bring your kids over. Have a picture with it. God, what the hell?
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whoneedsmoney
 You know, like, that's probably a thing that happened once, right?
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whoneedsmoney
 Like when water heaters were a brand new thing, people were like, oh, can I see your water heater?
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whoneedsmoney
 Simpler times.
Weather Complaints and Jeep Trouble
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Chris
 yeah I'm loving our stupid, stupid February weather.
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whoneedsmoney
 Stupid, smart weather.
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Chris
 Where it was, what, 60 the other day and then yesterday was cold and rainy and sleety and today was just dreary and...
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, but it was 60 degrees with 30 mile an hour winds.
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Chris
 Oh yeah, you can't have enjoyable 60 degree weather.
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Chris
 was I tried to go for a walk. It was like, okay, I'm all right. And then I got to like the end of the neighborhood where the townhouses are. And it's like a wind tunnel. I was like, nope, I'm back.
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whoneedsmoney
 yeah The way my gym sits, cause I park on the side when I go to the gym.
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whoneedsmoney
 When I turn that corner, it's like I'm in a wind tunnel test.
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whoneedsmoney
 I find out how lack of aerodynamic I have because, oh my god.
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Chris
 Uh, but you're still more ah aerodynamic than a Jeep.
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whoneedsmoney
 It's insane.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, yeah. Yeah. A brick is more aerodynamic than a Jeep.
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whoneedsmoney
 It's kind of why I think the 4XE, the hybrid electric, whatever Jeep is kind of funny.
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whoneedsmoney
 You're trying to make something that's not efficient efficient. It's never going to be efficient.
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whoneedsmoney
 Look, it's slightly more efficient than rolling a brick down the highway. Great.
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Chris
 Well, the good thing is, Jeeps have such a smooth ride and they're comfortable.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, they're fun though.
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Chris
 They're quiet. they Oh, yeah, I mean, I love my Jeep, but yeah, you don't get a Jeep for fuel efficiency, comfort, road noise.
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whoneedsmoney
 We're watching out for steering issues because they all have steering issues.
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Chris
 Oh, yeah, eventually the wobble hits them all.
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whoneedsmoney
 yeah The wobble is the death wobble of spat. It's real bad in my Jeep right now.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh man, and we have tried everything to fix it. We've replaced the front end like three times. People are like, you just need to buy this, you know, pro stabilizer bar.
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whoneedsmoney
 And we're like, put that in there and they don't do crap. You know, so it's a, yeah, unfortunately it's a 20.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yes. 20 years old Jeep.
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Chris
 jeez oh yeah yeah yeah oh yeah what kills me is you know
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whoneedsmoney
 So, you know, I tell my wife all the time, I'm like, it doesn't cost us anything, but we're not putting anything into it.
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Chris
 You've got it like that and you get the wobble, but then you have these maniacs who put these giant tires and stuff and they're fine.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, well, fine is a word.
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whoneedsmoney
 I mean, they rip up their jeep's hardcore, so they never last.
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whoneedsmoney
 And unfortunately, Assatique has done its damage to my jeep.
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whoneedsmoney
 You know, there's some rust on it.
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whoneedsmoney
 The guy, like I said, the guy is like, yeah, you took it to the beach once. I'm like, yeah, more than once, but yes.
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Chris
 Once you drove by a body of water one time.
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whoneedsmoney
 yep got to fight with the maniacs who worked this morning well
Driving Controversy and Flu Season
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whoneedsmoney
 one of the maniacs said that driving on the jee on the beach at Assateague doesn't destroy the beach and it's dumb that the government is trying to limit the amount of people that do it and my re counter that was You may think you're the best driver in the world, but you're doing damage to the beach.
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whoneedsmoney
 And and then for every one of you who's careful, there's three of you who aren't and drive like maniacs.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, that's true, but I said, no, no, no, there's no, but that's it.
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whoneedsmoney
 They're destroying.
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Chris
 When it's also not just the driving, it's the litter, it's the pollution, it's, yeah.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. And, and I said, the government has to fix the beach because of people. Yeah, but they shouldn't do that on my dime.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, whose dime are they going to do it on?
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Chris
 They shouldn't do it on my dime.
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whoneedsmoney
 Right. Because they were saying how they they should get rid of the park rangers because you know the park rangers don't do anything. and They do do things.
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Chris
 Yeah, they do a lot.
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Chris
 I thought you were going to talk about the maniac who came to work but had to get somebody else to do his job because he lost his voice.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh, yeah. Well, he was feeling better this morning.
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whoneedsmoney
 I'll give him that.
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whoneedsmoney
 He told me yesterday, he's like, I don't know if I'm going to make it to work. I was like, well, I can't work overtime because like the water heater issue, obviously.
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whoneedsmoney
 And then he gave me more. He said he's feeling much better today.
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Chris
 Yeah, I mean, they say that flu A that's going around is no joke.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that's why I get flu shot.
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Chris
 Yeah, I mean, like, Phipp got it and he's still got the flu.
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whoneedsmoney
 I mean, there's still a chance, right? But they say it's better than not having it.
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Chris
 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, patient zero was spreading it around.
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whoneedsmoney
 I don't know what that is.
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Chris
 the nurse practitioner.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh, oh, oh, Jess. I thought you said Jeff.
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whoneedsmoney
 What else, Jeff?
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Chris
 No, Jess. Yeah. yeah She was patient zero.
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whoneedsmoney
 Wouldn't it be nice to live in a world where people were responsible and made good decisions like staying home when they're sick?
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Chris
 Well, especially people in the medical profession.
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whoneedsmoney
 Right. Yeah.
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Chris
 I think the other day somebody sneezed and I was like, are you okay? Like, yeah, I think it's just allergies. And I looked at him. I was like, that's not allergies. so I was like, go home.
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whoneedsmoney
 It's February. you What allergies do you have in February?
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Chris
 Yeah. Like, well, I mean, I woke up feeling really cruddy and my throat hurts. I was like, get out of the office. Go, go. And then, yeah.
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whoneedsmoney
 Now the other day at eight o'clock in the evening at work, I started to feel crappy, but at that point I'm screwed.
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whoneedsmoney
 There's nothing I can do except go in my office and hide, right?
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whoneedsmoney
 Like it's that, that's like, uh, I'm not calling my boss. I'm like, Hey, I gotta go home because I'm sick right now. You know, that's not, that's not, that's not kosher, but stay back home.
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whoneedsmoney
 You got sick time.
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whoneedsmoney
 Well, you should have sick time at least.
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Chris
 Yeah. Well, and I don't think most of the public understands when the male body gets the flu or a cold or something.
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Chris
 I mean, it puts us on death's door.
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whoneedsmoney
 that's true man flu is a real thing yeah it's terrible well it's like my wife always asks me because i don't get sick but once or twice a year and when i get sick it's like bam you know right yeah
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Chris
 It impacts our body so much stronger than anybody else. It's crazy.
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Chris
 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. that's the thing our bodies are fighting everything the rest of the time and then it's that just takes that one little pause and down we go yeah yeah you can bring me soup yeah yeah nice bowl of tomato or i use a mug of tomato soup
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whoneedsmoney
 Lets its guard down. And then all of a sudden I'm under the sheep's cover and shivering. Yeah. Yeah. Bring me soup. That's all I want in life.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh man. i The more, i the older I get, the less I want to have tomato soup. It's just like,
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whoneedsmoney
 Acidic and not very good.
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Chris
 Yeah, see, I don't like tomatoes, but I like tomato soup.
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Chris
 Yeah, a little bit of black pepper cracked into it.
Culinary Adventures and Dietary Discussions
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Chris
 Actually had that Sunday night for dinner, we had we're like kids, we had grilled cheese and tomato soup.
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whoneedsmoney
 I mean, sure. Real cheese is fine.
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Chris
 We did use we used fancy bread.
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whoneedsmoney
 fancy business you know
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Chris
 yeah that's like i got thinking about today at work we went out to lunch and i got a wrap and to today at lunch was the first time i've eaten meat since sunday yeah it's
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whoneedsmoney
 well that's really nice you know how do we feel
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Chris
 great had some pasta with brussel sprouts a couple nights and homemade chickpea shawarma tuesday night yeah it was good made my own shawarma spice
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Chris
 yeah yeah i mean that's the spice blend right oh no we used chickpea so we coated chickpeas in the schwarma spice yeah yeah these were just whole chickpeas that we roasted yeah yeah
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whoneedsmoney
 Should I No, the shawarma is the balls, right?
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that's what that's what usually shawarma is, it's the little chickpea balls. Oh, I see. I understand now.
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whoneedsmoney
 Let's see what better for you, because it didn deep fry.
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Chris
 a nice cucumber feta yeah like uh
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whoneedsmoney
 I'm not in for feta. Very rarely.
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Chris
 let's take the wrap i got today was a buffalo chicken wrap and there was a giant giant chunk of blue cheese in it that i thought was like a piece of chicken or something that was that was an uptake yeah
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whoneedsmoney
 That's a good bite.
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whoneedsmoney
 I'm still punishing myself by eating the same things every day.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I mean, worried about my macros every day. I pretty much eat the same meal every day.
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Chris
 You don't think a dog?
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whoneedsmoney
 Just makes tracking a lot easier.
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Chris
 Yeah, I mean, I guess so, but I i would get bored.
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whoneedsmoney
 I bring on the cube pellet. That's just, you know, just here's just, here's the thing you eat.
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whoneedsmoney
 Bring that on.
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Chris
 Hmm. I mean, if it was a pellet, I don't know.
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Chris
 As long as it didn't have like a weird texture or taste or something, I'd be fine.
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Chris
 But I think just like eating a slurry every day, I couldn't do it.
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whoneedsmoney
 but If I could figure out a way to get micronutrients into my Greek yogurt, I would just eat Greek yogurt five times a day.
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whoneedsmoney
 And I do put blueberries and stuff in there, but I'm not putting kale in my Greek yogurt yet. I'm gonna reach that point.
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Chris
 Oh, that doesn't sound good. Maybe we should blend the kale up.
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whoneedsmoney
 I used to, yeah, no, I can't do smoothies for that very reason.
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whoneedsmoney
 right That gritty kale-ness that comes out of the smoothie.
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whoneedsmoney
 No, not in for it. Not going to do it. I used to hate yogurt too, but I still don't like regular yogurt, but i'll I'll eat the Greek yogurt.
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whoneedsmoney
 That's a good protein source.
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Chris
 Mix it with chia seed into it.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, so I put my GC in my cranberry sauce that then I put in the Greek yogurt.
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Chris
 This is your homemade hoity-toity cranberry sauce.
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whoneedsmoney
 Because cayenne cranberry sauce is gross.
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whoneedsmoney
 It's just gelatinous goop.
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Chris
 Comes out in a lovely shape and you can just, it's got pre-designated lines for you to cut.
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whoneedsmoney
 That's not true.
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whoneedsmoney
 So who gets the big portions then?
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whoneedsmoney
 I bought this cranberry sauce, I get the big end.
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Chris
 Yeah, I spent a whopping 89 cents on this. I get the biggest piece.
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whoneedsmoney
 speaker i saw i I don't know if you've seen Sorted Food, but it was the saddest thing to me. They were doing the thing the other day where it's like the review kitchen gadgets and this thing made basically oatmeal.
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whoneedsmoney
 It cracked oats and oatmeal or growth and oatmeal.
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whoneedsmoney
 It was more expensive to buy the unprocessed. Oats. That it was to buy like a box of oatmeal.
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Chris
 okay like the quicker instant oats wow that that is well
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whoneedsmoney
 Isn't that sad?
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whoneedsmoney
 Something wrong, like fundamentally wrong with that.
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Chris
 i think what it is is you have to grow your own oats
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that feels extreme and hard.
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Chris
 I mean, I mean, you know, like you can only enjoy oatmeal, you know, like for a month a year, but it's worth it.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh, i I eat it almost every day.
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Chris
 Yeah, but I'm saying if you did it that way, I guess if you harvested it and preserved it
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whoneedsmoney
 Oh, no, because you tried it.
Farming Fantasies and Measurement Mishaps
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah.
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Chris
 Yeah, you'd have to have a massive field, though.
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whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I wonder how much...
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whoneedsmoney
 How many hectares of ah oats do I need?
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Chris
 That's right. What is a hectare?
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whoneedsmoney
 It's eight it's an eighth of an acre, right?
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whoneedsmoney
 I don't know.
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whoneedsmoney
 That's my educated guess.
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Chris
 Hect, I mean, I don't know.
00:18:02
Chris
 One hectare is 2.47 acres.
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whoneedsmoney
 That doesn't make any sense.
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Chris
 Wow, that's what it is.
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whoneedsmoney
 I know a hide is as much land as it takes to feed a family.
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whoneedsmoney
 would I need
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Chris
 Uh-oh, danger of hood. According to most estimates, roughly one acre of oats would be sufficient to feed a person for a year, assuming a balanced diet that includes oats as a staple grain. This can vary based on growing conditions, harvest yield, and individual diet needs.
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Chris
 Oats are considered a relatively efficient grain crop, so one acre can produce a substantial amount of grain.
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whoneedsmoney
 This is the craziest statement I've ever seen on the internet. Do you enjoy a warm bowl of oatmeal for fruit for breakfast? That you should be growing oats.
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Chris
 no It's an you go out there with your size and harvest them and.
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whoneedsmoney
 Oats are the highest in protein.
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whoneedsmoney
 Okay. 36 pounds per bushel.
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whoneedsmoney
 Uh, one bushel of raw oats makes about 14 pounds of rolled oats.
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whoneedsmoney
 think of Five bushels on a 12th of an acre.
00:19:45
Chris
 Is that a peck? Five bushels?
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whoneedsmoney
 No, a peck is a... Isn't that an apple? Like it's a cart.
00:19:53
whoneedsmoney
 Right? I think we've had this conversation before.
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Chris
 and We have, I think.
00:19:58
whoneedsmoney
 You can make naked oats of vina nuda.
00:20:09
whoneedsmoney
 You can get the streaker, which is resistant to crown rust.
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Chris
 A peck is eight dry cords.
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whoneedsmoney
 There you go. So in the spring and fall, you can plant your oats and you sow in the fall if you do it in the spring.
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whoneedsmoney
 No. They don't mind cloudy, rainy weather. That's Delaware right now.
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Chris
 yeah but Sounds like you need to get ready to sew some oats in about a month and a half.
00:20:42
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, they like a pH between 6 and 7.5. Sure.
00:20:47
whoneedsmoney
 I don't know how to change that.
00:20:49
Chris
 Hey, it depends on if you need to put potash or something else in your soil.
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Chris
 What is it? Straw brings, yeah, straw or something makes it more acidic and then potash will obviously make it more basic.
00:21:15
whoneedsmoney
 Plant seeds four to six inches apart, rows that are 12 inches apart. Nice and damp so they need moisture. They like water and in sun.
00:21:28
whoneedsmoney
 I'm going to grow some oats on my quarter acre.
00:21:30
Chris
 and And you might as well get a goat to eat the weeds and fertilize. Yeah, yeah.
00:21:43
whoneedsmoney
 Dogs, you're not going to have as much room this year. Daddy's growing oats.
00:21:51
whoneedsmoney
 I'm going to need to thresh them and cure them.
00:21:52
Chris
 See now. Two years from now, you're going to be at the farmer's market near bib overalls. Try Uncle Ron's rolled oats.
00:22:04
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Oh, I can turn the stems into silage for my animals. Dogs are getting silage.
00:22:12
whoneedsmoney
 I don't know what silage even is.
00:22:15
Chris
 The silage or silage?
00:22:17
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, I don't know.
00:22:20
whoneedsmoney
 That's a good question.
00:22:23
Chris
 <unk>las are for <unk>llage Silage fermented feed for livestock made from chopped green plants. Feed cattle and sheep during the dry season or winter when natural pastures are scarce. It's placed in a silo and fermented in an airtight environment.
00:22:43
whoneedsmoney
 You can make a ah make a Mexican oatmeal bowl.
00:22:43
Chris
 It retains more nutrients per acre than hay. Cattle enjoy the taste in aroma.
00:22:55
whoneedsmoney
 I never would have thought of this.
00:23:00
Chris
 Well, we know where Ron's dabbling into this year.
00:23:06
whoneedsmoney
 Oats, pancakes?
00:23:10
whoneedsmoney
 Garlic oats with eggs?
00:23:14
whoneedsmoney
 Sounds delicious.
00:23:16
Chris
 Yeah, let's say I know.
00:23:17
whoneedsmoney
 she chi d I think stretch out the sausage, yeah.
00:23:20
Chris
 Don't they use oats as like a sausage replacement sometimes for meat? Yeah.
00:23:29
whoneedsmoney
 Mushroom oats. Oh. up I've been just eating regular oatmeal like a sucker.
00:23:38
Chris
 yeah Why don't you just make oatmeal cookies?
00:23:46
whoneedsmoney
 like that's there' a lot of sugar Johnny Cakes yeah like on
00:23:50
Chris
 I have to put a lot of sugar in them. Just make little oat cakes. You can't make Johnny cakes. But they're fried, aren't they? So I mean, they're kind of... Yes.
00:24:17
whoneedsmoney
 Look, I got a lot of farming to do.
00:24:17
Chris
 I can't wait. They do. You need to get a Clydesdale to pull the plow.
00:24:25
whoneedsmoney
 I need a plow.
00:24:27
Chris
 I mean, I'm sure, don't you? You got to plant them by hand like a maniac.
00:24:33
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, it's going to Atticus do it.
00:24:37
Chris
 OK. Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. Tie a little plow but or a hoe behind Atticus.
00:24:45
Chris
 ah The are all zigzaggy. Squirrel runs out and he takes off after it. Your wife's asking, why are there oats growing across the middle of the yard?
00:24:53
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, you know.
00:24:56
Chris
 There's a squirrel, just don't ask.
00:25:00
Chris
 You have to put a scarecrow up?
00:25:01
whoneedsmoney
 How back can I go?
00:25:04
whoneedsmoney
 Will they eat my oats?
00:25:07
whoneedsmoney
 I don't know.
00:25:08
Chris
 Crows might not, but birds will.
00:25:10
whoneedsmoney
 Hmm, I hate birds anyways.
00:25:11
Chris
 And then you've got to watch squirrels because they'll dig the oats up and eat them.
00:25:17
whoneedsmoney
 Now I'm gonna need like a guard dog.
00:25:17
Chris
 You're opportunistic little guys.
00:25:21
Chris
 Oh, well the goat will keep the squirrels away.
00:25:33
whoneedsmoney
 What's a... It sounds like a lot of work or I could just pay my $3 in my boots.
00:25:39
Chris
 Yeah. But this way you get the benefit of working for your oats.
00:25:46
whoneedsmoney
 But I do work for it. It's called going to my job.
00:25:48
Chris
 yeah well there's your retirement gig you can grow oats or yeah it's like everybody jokes when somebody retires from the fire department had they either go work for the court system or a funeral home you know or whatever they add the new one or they grow oats
00:25:55
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, or. Or not. I can, you know.
00:26:20
whoneedsmoney
 No one will see that one coming, especially with me.
00:26:22
Chris
 No, they won't. Yeah.
00:26:24
whoneedsmoney
 Did anybody talk to Whisper? I hear he goes to farmer's markets and sells his oats.
00:26:34
Chris
 That would have so many people like what? what
00:26:40
whoneedsmoney
 But I'll make Mexican oats and, you know, enjoy them.
00:26:53
Chris
 So what's the difference between oatmeal and porridge?
00:26:58
whoneedsmoney
 I think oatmeal is made with oats and porridge is made with other things?
00:27:06
Chris
 ah So it's like cream of wheat or something.
00:27:08
whoneedsmoney
 And they put like milk and porridge, right?
00:27:12
Chris
 Porridge versus oatmeal. There's several differences. My porridge is a hot cooked cereal dish made from grains or legumes.
00:27:22
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, so it doesn't have to be oatmeal.
00:27:22
Chris
 Oatmeal is specifically porridge from oats.
00:27:31
whoneedsmoney
 Wait, so grits is porridge?
00:27:35
Chris
 I guess, yeah, because it's a legume.
00:27:44
whoneedsmoney
 Well, fun fact.
00:27:50
whoneedsmoney
 It's nothing better than it'll be on the morning.
00:27:50
Chris
 Well. See, I can't. It's a texture thing.
00:27:56
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, wish you want to start your day off with a nice healthy trip to the bathroom.
00:28:01
Chris
 Well, I have my and honey nut Cheerios on the way to work every morning.
00:28:08
whoneedsmoney
 and you eat them dry like a weird bird
00:28:11
Chris
 It's delightful. I've got two specific cups I use. I know exactly how far to fill them. And by the time I get to work, I've eaten my three quarters of a cup of Honey Nut Cheerios and I'm ready for the day.
00:28:29
whoneedsmoney
 I get to work and cook my oatmeal and sit down because I get there so early and I wait for the maniacs from C-Shift to wake up.
00:28:39
whoneedsmoney
 and then they disturb me.
00:28:47
whoneedsmoney
 but It's ah it is funny how i they sleep. I'm always up at six. Like, clockwork at work.
00:28:54
Chris
 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I work.
00:28:55
Chris
 I was always. Yeah.
00:28:57
whoneedsmoney
 You know. It's for sure one time our lieutenant slept in.
00:29:03
whoneedsmoney
 And then that's why we didn't check on him.
00:29:07
Chris
 ah In retrospect, it was a sign.
00:29:11
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Yeah. A lot of things are signs.
00:29:16
Chris
 It's like we're damned if we do, damned if we go in there and he's not dead, we woke him up and made him mad. If we go in there and he is dead, well now we got a dead lieutenant to deal with.
00:29:25
whoneedsmoney
 Right. Right.
00:29:27
whoneedsmoney
 But if we waited for a shift to deal with it, that was really the answer.
00:29:30
Chris
 Exactly. Oh yeah, yeah.
00:29:32
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:36
whoneedsmoney
 I don't even know.
00:29:37
Chris
 Hey, where's your lieutenant? Oh, thanks, still in the bunk room. Do you want to check on him? Ah, give him another minute.
00:29:44
whoneedsmoney
 yeah Yeah, we literally had that conversation.
00:29:49
whoneedsmoney
 He was not well-liked.
00:29:57
whoneedsmoney
 Well, ready to move on to topic one?
00:30:01
whoneedsmoney
 Topic one, and this is your fault.
00:30:06
whoneedsmoney
 What will make or break the new Fantastic Four?
00:30:14
whoneedsmoney
 What do they have to do to make it good?
Fantastic Four Movie Speculations
00:30:20
whoneedsmoney
 Because I think they're already screwed up.
00:30:23
Chris
 But I might agree with you on that. Is it Pedro Pascal?
00:30:31
whoneedsmoney
 I feel like that's a big miss.
00:30:33
Chris
 Yeah, he's he's a delightful guy, but he doesn't need to be everyone. You had John Krasinski.
00:30:43
whoneedsmoney
 I just, I guess my worry with Pedro Pascal is he tends to play things a bit goofy.
00:30:52
whoneedsmoney
 And Reed Richards is not a goofy character to me.
00:30:56
Chris
 yeah No, no, Reed is very straight-laced, super genius, stretchy man.
00:31:02
whoneedsmoney
 Stretching me. Yeah. You know, kind of a egotistical jerk.
00:31:09
whoneedsmoney
 You know, he's got to be a little bit smarmy.
00:31:12
Chris
 Yeah, he's all about the science, and science comes first, and yeah.
00:31:18
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, i I didn't watch the trailer because, you know, of my rule.
00:31:25
whoneedsmoney
 But I saw the costumes, which I think is ah also a miss.
00:31:32
Chris
 Well, evidently this is like set in the 60s.
00:31:37
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, see, I think that might be a real problem.
00:31:39
Chris
 I think, yeah, that's a big like why I'm asking.
00:31:44
whoneedsmoney
 Right. Why not?
00:31:47
whoneedsmoney
 Why not make it the Fantastic Four of now?
00:31:52
whoneedsmoney
 Like, appeal to the audience, because i I actually, generally, genuinely have a soft spot for the Fantastic Four, like in the comics, but I've not enjoyed any of the movies.
00:32:06
Chris
 Oh, the movies have not been good. But yeah, in the comics, you know, I mean, they're the team that kind eat Tony Stark even turns to for, you know, advice and, you know, smarts and things.
00:32:18
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Yeah. that they And they started it all, right? Like they're the first real team.
00:32:23
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. Spider-Man was on the Fantastic Four for a while when he was Bag Man.
00:32:28
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's where Spider-Man was originally on the Fed as before, right? That's the first Spider-Man experience.
00:32:37
Chris
 I think it was he was involved in it, but yeah.
00:32:38
whoneedsmoney
 I think also Punisher.
00:32:42
Chris
 Was Pardes sure really?
00:32:44
whoneedsmoney
 I think Punisher was in a Fantastic Four run.
00:32:50
whoneedsmoney
 I might be wrong. I've learned to be wrong about things. um
00:33:03
Chris
 um there's definitely a lot of stuff with the two crossing over but hey probably was
00:33:08
whoneedsmoney
 I'm sorry, he was it originally in Amazing Spider-Man 129.
00:33:14
whoneedsmoney
 I thought he was in a Fantastic Four pretty early on, too. Maybe. But back to what the question I thought was, what do they have to do to win?
00:33:31
whoneedsmoney
 Because it seems like the formula is good, right? Like Johnny is a brash douchebag.
00:33:40
whoneedsmoney
 Ben is a misunderstood monster. He's got the whole Frankenstein thing going for him.
00:33:44
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, Sue is.
00:33:48
whoneedsmoney
 Two is two.
00:33:52
whoneedsmoney
 And then read.
00:33:53
Chris
 Sue is deceptively powerful. You're like, oh, you know, sue she's just this, you know, oh, she can turn invisible, but she's got a lot more that she can do.
00:34:01
whoneedsmoney
 Well, that's my I mean, that's a that's a question how far they go with the Sioux, you know, powers because.
00:34:08
whoneedsmoney
 She isn't usually just kind of invisible, but then she becomes invisible and she can do force fields, right?
00:34:16
whoneedsmoney
 But like, I almost want them to skip the origin story. We've seen it 12 times now.
00:34:24
Chris
 Yeah, I would say if anything, just do like.
00:34:29
Chris
 I don't know like a brief mention of it and then maybe you know like as the characters are interacting with things or something you know like they flash back to when it happened or you know before it or something like that but have it focused on their here and now and then yeah little montages or whatever as you go but not long drawn out things just short little snippets and focus on whatever it is that they're dealing with now.
00:34:55
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I don't need it to be the reboot of the reboot of the reboot of the reboot of the reboot of Phaidus 4, right?
00:35:04
whoneedsmoney
 Now, is this the thing that Robert Downey Jr. is playing, Dr. Duman?
00:35:08
Chris
 No, that is something else.
00:35:13
whoneedsmoney
 Because you also have to have a good Dr.
00:35:15
whoneedsmoney
 Doom. And the last one wasn't good.
00:35:17
Chris
 I would I would say you don't start with Dr. Doom.
00:35:21
whoneedsmoney
 Sure. If you're gonna do it, you have to be good.
00:35:23
Chris
 Like, yeah, and you tease him at the end or something. Like it was all tied back to him or you know whatever. So if you just start, and it's Dr. Doom, and yeah then it's just, okay, we're there fighting Dr. Doom ah again.
00:35:37
Chris
 You know, build it up like a Thanos thing. Because, I mean, Dr. Doom is up there for villain-wise. I mean, he's got his own country.
00:35:44
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I mean, he's just, that was kind of the problem.
00:35:45
Chris
 So, yeah, build him as the overarching kind of thing. And, and well, I saw in the trailer who one of the villains is. So, yeah.
00:35:59
whoneedsmoney
 But like, that was kind of my problem with the last run of the movies was the Dr. Doom character was lame.
00:36:07
whoneedsmoney
 It's like, but this is the, but like, until they go up against the Silver Surfer, and Galactica and all that crap.
00:36:16
whoneedsmoney
 That's the bad guy, Dr. Do.
00:36:22
Chris
 Yeah, it's the enemy in Doom is a great villain. He's super against super smart. I mean, eventually he I think he gets the Dr. Strange's powers for a bit becomes the Sorcerer Supreme and something else. So. Yeah, doom is doom.
00:36:43
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. To him is to him.
00:36:47
Chris
 Yeah, they have to. Fantastic Four has to have their little robot. What was it, Kirby or whatever?
00:36:51
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, I don't know what the character I can't remember.
00:36:52
Chris
 Kirby. There's that little robot.
00:36:57
whoneedsmoney
 I mean, you have to have the they the headquarters.
00:37:03
whoneedsmoney
 It's this important part.
00:37:05
Chris
 Oh, the Baxter building?
00:37:06
whoneedsmoney
 The Baxter building.
00:37:06
Chris
 Yeah, you gotta have the Baxter building.
00:37:07
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. And, you know,
00:37:12
whoneedsmoney
 Read that has to be done well. And that's my word. That's my I just, I don't know.
00:37:19
Chris
 Yeah, you got to. Yeah, you see him and you're like, oh, you know, this is going to be this charismatic guy and this and that. And then he opens his mouth and you're like, oh, he is like a robot. He is just, yeah.
00:37:32
Chris
 Total PhD kind of guy, not good at interacting with people and all that very.
00:37:41
Chris
 I don't know, like, gruff, but, you know, kind of aloof, like you said, and yeah, just he's the smartest guy in the room and he absolutely knows it and has no idea how to talk to a normal person.
00:37:49
whoneedsmoney
 this he's he's the smartest guy in the world right like that's his thing I think he's originally the smartest guy in the world right like yeah we'll
00:37:55
Chris
 Mm hmm. Yeah. You know, because like he can stretch his brain now too or something. Well, yeah, he was originally like super smart, but I think, you know,
00:38:12
whoneedsmoney
 see I mean I'm not I don't want to be
00:38:13
Chris
 Yeah. Well, I mean, you got to have Johnny say flame on.
00:38:18
whoneedsmoney
 We gotta have Johnny say flame on I was gonna say thing that you know, that's you know I want them to kind of Keep it to itself.
00:38:23
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. God, that was so funny.
00:38:32
whoneedsmoney
 Maybe that's why they're doing it from the 60s so they don't have to do any crossover apart You know
00:38:43
Chris
 Like you said, the Fantastic Four are so influential in the comics overall. I mean, Ben, they helped Spider-Man beat the Venom symbiote.
00:38:51
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I mean...
00:38:56
Chris
 They, you know, help the X-Men, the Avengers.
00:38:58
whoneedsmoney
 They start the Avengers, basically, you know.
00:39:00
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, isn't it Reed and um Hank Pym that make Ultron?
00:39:09
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, is that true?
00:39:13
Chris
 I think that's what it was. In the comics, it definitely wasn't Bruce.
00:39:18
whoneedsmoney
 No, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah
00:39:23
whoneedsmoney
 It gets very... I mean, if I can, they do everything, you know. And then they made the movies.
00:39:31
Chris
 Oh, in the comics, Hank Pym. Yeah, but it was somebody else. I knew somebody had to help him. Oh, no, it was just really Hank Pym.
00:39:48
whoneedsmoney
 I didn't realize they'd canceled the Tradesic 4 for a few years.
00:39:52
Chris
 know Yeah, I mean, they could be really cool or they could be really bad. So I hope that the thing looks like, you know, the thing and not some horrible styrofoam man.
00:40:01
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah.
00:40:11
whoneedsmoney
 Sure, yeah.
00:40:12
Chris
 yeah Because I mean, the thinking, you know, do get out with the Hulk. You gotta have that strength.
00:40:21
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, there's a lot they can do. and But my question with the 60s thing is like, where do you go with that? Because now you can't interact with any of the current Marvel people.
00:40:35
Chris
 Well, unless there's one of those wacky time things here.
00:40:37
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Wacky time travel.
00:40:42
Chris
 So you gotta have the fantastic car.
00:40:47
Chris
 Or the plane, whatever it was.
00:40:48
whoneedsmoney
 the all that's the the sixties era of everybody had everything was named the fantastic or you know batmobile ah plane blelicopter but everything um the stretching yeah well you know they gotta live on their little secret
00:40:55
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I never understood why Wonder Woman had an invisible jet, though.
00:41:12
Chris
 No, nothing else was invisible.
00:41:18
whoneedsmoney
 island I don't know you gotta have been in the trench coat and the fedora yeah and who's the blind girl he that's not her name
00:41:19
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. I guess.
00:41:27
Chris
 Oh, yeah. Yeah, you've got to see that at least once. That's classic. Oh, yeah, that's right. I want to say Betsy, but that's not it.
00:41:44
Chris
 Mind girl likes the thing. Oh, god. Let's keep this spring up.
00:42:06
Chris
 Let's put Marvel in there. That might help.
00:42:08
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, would that would help the thing, yeah.
00:42:10
Chris
 and Marvel it. Alicia Masters.
00:42:12
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, go yeah, yeah.
00:42:13
Chris
 It's a blind character. yeah She falls in love with Ben for his personality.
00:42:27
whoneedsmoney
 because the whole thing is they like, they don't, they don't, she doesn't touch him until like way late to figure out that he's the thing.
00:42:38
whoneedsmoney
 yeah I mean, you kind of have to have Reed Richards like deal with Tony Stark's dad. I don't know.
00:42:47
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess that would be Reed and Howard.
00:42:55
Chris
 Yeah, and kind of questioning Howard, you know, like, why are you building stuff for the military? And, you know, I mean, you could use your mind for.
00:43:03
whoneedsmoney
 Well, Reed's kind of like part of the establishment, right? like
00:43:11
whoneedsmoney
 He's not He's kind of a guy who builds stuff for the military too. That's kind of the whole thing Sure,
00:43:17
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, but doesn't he also like figure out how to, you know, grow oats for an entire world or something?
00:43:26
whoneedsmoney
 yeah, yeah again, he's the smart fan of the world But
00:43:32
whoneedsmoney
 I'm optimistic I'll I'll definitely see it I'm not I think I've seen all of them even if they were bad
00:43:36
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that I'll rush out to the theater to see it, but I'll definitely watch it.
00:43:48
whoneedsmoney
 Anyway, I enjoy Pedro Pascal and things.
00:43:51
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. I just hope this isn't just shoehorning in, ah you know, like big name.
00:43:58
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. He must have like really signed some really big deal with Disney.
00:44:04
whoneedsmoney
 He's in everything they do.
00:44:09
whoneedsmoney
 It's like back in the 20s when he used to sign with a ah studio.
00:44:13
whoneedsmoney
 and you did like a third day you were just in everything yeah seen it don't know i think it's gonna people say it's good yeah
00:44:14
Chris
 And you're in everything.
00:44:18
Chris
 Yeah. Next I mean with Disney's got Mandalorian. Now Fantastic Four. You said something else buddy.
00:44:32
Chris
 Buddy with HBO Max. He's on The Last of Us.
00:44:44
whoneedsmoney
 Not really, I should not get max.
00:44:51
whoneedsmoney
 I didn't watch it either, and all I heard was bad things, and yeah.
00:44:58
whoneedsmoney
 yeah It's a Ridley Scott money, what are you gonna do?
00:45:05
whoneedsmoney
 I don't know why Ridley Scott does that. Like, and it's a whole other rant. I get on a three-hour conversation about why Ridley Scott shoehorns historical characters into the wrong story.
00:45:19
Chris
 Yeah. Wasn't gladiator two just a retelling of gladiator one?
00:45:24
whoneedsmoney
 No, I think it's...
00:45:25
whoneedsmoney
 I think it's... after Gladiator 1.
00:45:29
Chris
 Oh, yeah yeah, but I'm saying the actual story is pretty much gladiator one again.
00:45:34
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, I don't know about that anymore.
00:45:37
Chris
 I haven't watched it.
00:45:41
Chris
 You'll be one of those. It comes to Netflix or whatever. OK.
00:45:48
whoneedsmoney
 you I don't even know what streaming services I have anymore. I know I don't have Netflix. Amazon Prime is a treacherous abomination that's not worth watching anything on.
00:46:03
Chris
 It has its moments, but yeah. Well, Invincible's about to come back.
00:46:05
whoneedsmoney
 i was Watching a show on Amazon Prime, the the new SAS Rogue Heroes show, which was pretty good.
00:46:13
whoneedsmoney
 I was enjoying it.
00:46:14
whoneedsmoney
 I went to work and then I come back to work and says, Oh, you need to upgrade the MGM plus now to watch the rest of the show.
00:46:20
whoneedsmoney
 That's like you.
00:46:20
Chris
 Oh, that's... That's wrong.
00:46:24
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. And you gotta watch commercials when you watch crap on there.
00:46:29
whoneedsmoney
 It's terrible.
00:46:30
Chris
 Yeah. it Like I said, Invincible's coming back, that was good.
00:46:39
whoneedsmoney
 Well, we're gonna move on to the topic two.
00:46:39
Chris
 Yeah, I think we've got Prime, we've got Max, Disney, Hulu, Netflix.
00:46:43
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, we went to Max.
00:46:46
whoneedsmoney
 Disney. We have Disney and ESPN Plus because of Disney.
00:46:52
whoneedsmoney
 I think we have Hulu because of the wife.
00:46:52
Chris
 Let's see, we have Disney and Hulu because of Disney.
00:46:58
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, I think we have the Disney, you Hulu, ESPN bundle.
00:47:01
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Every now and again, we'll get Apple TV for like a show and then cancel it.
00:47:09
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, and we we did that for one show and then cancelled it.
00:47:14
whoneedsmoney
 I watched the Greyhound movie and then Ted Lasso.
00:47:16
Chris
 The Greyhound movie.
00:47:21
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, it was the Tom Hanks movie where he's a destroyer captain.
00:47:27
Chris
 Oh, OK. I thought it was like dogs or the bus.
00:47:29
whoneedsmoney
 No, no, no.
00:47:32
whoneedsmoney
 It was a good movie.
00:47:32
Chris
 He's like, oh, you watched a documentary on the bus service grounds.
00:47:39
whoneedsmoney
 Yes, yes, it was a 2R documentary. just They just put a film crew on a bus and you watch the bus travel.
00:47:48
Chris
 ah Do people even take like long bus ride trips anymore?
00:47:55
whoneedsmoney
 Oh yeah like yeah, I think that's so but still a pretty big thing.
00:48:01
Chris
 Let's go get a bus ticket.
00:48:06
whoneedsmoney
 I hope it becomes a bigger thing in this country because, you know, how much a car costs today is ridiculous.
00:48:23
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, let's move on to topic two.
00:48:25
Chris
 All right. So topic two, I got thinking about this a little bit because It's kind of tangentially associated with it, but Call of Duty now has crazy seasons and stuff, and right now the new one is the Terminator.
Consciousness and Immortality
00:48:41
Chris
 Which, yeah, it's just you earn stuff so you can get different skins and weapons and stuff like that. But I got thinking about it, and I think we've kind of talked about this before, but
00:48:55
Chris
 Would you get uploaded into a robot so you could pretty much live forever? And if you did, what do you think would be the worst, like, missed sense or missed thing? Because, like, was I was watching um Creature Commandos and it was a the one guy, Dr. Phosphorus, and he was like, Yeah, I haven't felt somebody touch me in, you know, 15 years. And it's like,
00:49:22
Chris
 I never would have thought of that, you know, like as a robot or, you know, something that you're like, you don't feel touch, you don't taste, you don't smell, you just see and hear.
00:49:34
whoneedsmoney
 Hear me out.
00:49:36
whoneedsmoney
 All of the things you've described are just electrical impulses.
00:49:43
whoneedsmoney
 On and on enough time frame. Spending enough time, you know, working on it. I think you could get all those senses back as a robot.
00:49:56
whoneedsmoney
 What would I miss the most though?
00:50:03
Chris
 I think touch would be mine.
00:50:06
whoneedsmoney
 yeah tactile touch would be like like that would be tough losing like the ability to feel like floating in water you know it's just getting snuggled up in a blanket yeah that would be tough but you wouldn't need to go for a because you're in a robot body
00:50:17
Chris
 Yeah, or, you know, warm, cold. Yeah. The warmth of the sun. Although I could go for a walk anytime because stupid wind wouldn't bother me. But you got to keep your servos running. Isn't that a thing?
00:50:38
whoneedsmoney
 I mean maintenance st droids I mean I imagine I'm living in a you know a volcano secret lair at this point right yeah well I've got infinite time so you know I'm gonna have those nanobots yeah I think the touch would be the toughest one
00:50:48
Chris
 like ah But you have to have an army of little, like, nanobots to take care of you then. Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:00
Chris
 Yeah, read Richards to build it for you.
00:51:06
Chris
 I mean, yeah, I mean.
00:51:08
whoneedsmoney
 Because like smell, who cares?
00:51:15
whoneedsmoney
 Like you lose your said smell, it's like.
00:51:15
Chris
 Yeah, although, don't they say that like smell is like one of the most deeply associated sense with like memory and things?
00:51:25
whoneedsmoney
 Sure, I guess.
00:51:28
Chris
 But I guess if I got a robot brain, my memory is, you know, perfect.
00:51:31
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I got infinitely accessible memory, right?
00:51:34
Chris
 Yeah. Would you, would you have to like back it up and then like, yeah.
00:51:38
whoneedsmoney
 Well, yeah, I can't let my one week robot shell get destroyed and I'm dead.
00:51:45
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. I'm taking over the satellites, baby.
00:51:54
Chris
 The Wi-Fi goes out and you're like, okay, we're back. Okay. Thank God Yeah Yeah Yeah for a lot of people it does yeah
00:51:59
whoneedsmoney
 I feel like you'd be evil without intent.
00:52:06
whoneedsmoney
 Because you just, you would be ultimately pragmatic and pragmatism appears evil to people. Right? So that would be a downside.
00:52:21
Chris
 Yeah. Would you go crazy because you don't sleep?
00:52:27
whoneedsmoney
 Do you need sleep or is that your weak human body needs sleep?
00:52:32
Chris
 I think it's your body and your brain. Your brain needs time to recharge and process things. But if your brain is a super processor, then I guess you don't need that downtime.
00:52:43
Chris
 Your body doesn't need time to rejuvenate and everything.
00:52:48
whoneedsmoney
 Right. Yeah.
00:52:49
Chris
 Yeah, just drink a can of oil and yeah,
00:52:55
whoneedsmoney
 I mean. Yeah. Would you go crazy or would just. Oh, long enough time frame. You would just ah appear crazy. Because you would, like I said, you'd be so pragmatic about things.
00:53:19
whoneedsmoney
 You'd have to be a stoic. You'd have to be.
00:53:25
whoneedsmoney
 You mean...
00:53:25
Chris
 Yeah, because I mean, you're outliving everyone.
00:53:29
Chris
 Yeah, what was that freaky Robin Williams movie?
00:53:32
whoneedsmoney
 Millennium Man?
00:53:36
Chris
 Yeah, that's weird.
00:53:37
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. That was weird and it ended very weird.
00:53:44
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:45
Chris
 Was it like the granddaughter or something?
00:53:48
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, and he like chose to die as a human. It was weird.
00:53:53
whoneedsmoney
 It was weird. Yeah. It was a weird movie. But yeah, you mean the time frame.
00:54:03
whoneedsmoney
 But to think of the good you could do, I would give up my sense of touch.
00:54:09
whoneedsmoney
 As long as I could still read and I assume you could because you could process information.
00:54:13
Chris
 Yeah, you definitely should be able to read.
00:54:19
whoneedsmoney
 um You'd get bored. I think that'd be the biggest problem.
00:54:25
whoneedsmoney
 Boredom would be the biggest.
00:54:25
Chris
 I guess yeah boredom would be yeah before the craziness.
00:54:29
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. Yeah. Because you just...
00:54:32
Chris
 Yeah, yeah because I mean,
00:54:34
whoneedsmoney
 You would get to a point where you just only think.
00:54:39
Chris
 right now, yeah, there's most people six to eight hours a night. You're not doing anything.
00:54:48
Chris
 Your mind is processing things and everything while you're resting and it's your dreaming and doing whatever.
00:54:54
whoneedsmoney
 And I would say we only think an hour a day because we spent a lot of time forcing ourselves to, to doing other things, to not just think, right?
00:55:02
Chris
 just doing yeah yeah right yeah but three hours a day to eat we both work for a fire department we can eat all three meals in about five minutes tops yeah
00:55:09
whoneedsmoney
 Like you go to the gym for an hour, you know, you go to, you got to eat that takes two hours, three hours a day, you know, go for a walk. That's an hour a day, you know, there's just.
00:55:26
whoneedsmoney
 Fair, but you gotta cook, you gotta go to the grocery store. It's just more than just...
00:55:32
whoneedsmoney
 But you're not like thinking while you're cooking, right? You just...
00:55:36
whoneedsmoney
 You don't... You rarely ever sit down and think. Just spend 24 hours... Let's think about that thought experiment, like just take 24 hours to do nothing but think.
00:55:47
Chris
 Oh, my gosh. I can figure out what time really means.
00:55:54
whoneedsmoney
 yeah You could. You could. um
00:55:58
Chris
 The other day at lunch somebody, we were talking and somebody was like, I saw this thing Neil deGrasse Tyson was talking about time and how it sounds like, stop right there. Stop. Don't watch any more of it. You'll break yourself. He's like, I watched the whole thing. It was very interesting. I was like, screw you. No. How did that not break your mind?
00:56:14
whoneedsmoney
 That way leads to madness.
00:56:20
whoneedsmoney
 But yeah. know
00:56:21
whoneedsmoney
 i That's an interesting thought experiment. We've got to figure out a way to like, spend 24 hours with no... You'd have to like go to the woods, right?
00:56:32
Chris
 Or like one of those isolation chambers.
00:56:35
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, that would be maddening.
00:56:38
Chris
 and That's it's just you and your thoughts.
00:56:41
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, but the sound. and we maddening That That's what I'm saying.
00:56:45
whoneedsmoney
 That's the maddening part.
00:56:45
Chris
 Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's it's just you and your thoughts. Yeah.
00:56:53
Chris
 You have to have the water like, I don't know, have something that's going to keep you awake the whole time.
00:57:01
Chris
 It's like slow drip feed. of that Just aerosolized caffeine.
00:57:07
whoneedsmoney
 True But I think we could pull this off right like We'll take you take you into the woods.
00:57:14
whoneedsmoney
 We'll put you we'll set you up a camp.
00:57:16
whoneedsmoney
 We'll feed you we'll water you and
00:57:20
Chris
 Feed water, yeah. That's what you do for livestock.
00:57:21
whoneedsmoney
 And then we'll leave you for, we'll leave you in 20, well, you know, we'll give you a silage and we'll leave you for 24 hours before you don't have to do anything.
00:57:29
Chris
 Now. yeah Wait, do I have a tent?
00:57:35
Chris
 Okay, do I have a lantern?
00:57:41
Chris
 Okay, that's about six. That's gonna be scary at night.
00:57:44
whoneedsmoney
 Sure. You have a, it's totally safe. We're there guarding you.
00:57:48
Chris
 Oh yeah, yeahs yeah, that's comforting.
00:57:49
whoneedsmoney
 You know, but you don't see us because we're in the woods.
00:57:55
whoneedsmoney
 um But, you know, 24 hours of, because you're not going to starve to death, because you're not going to starve to 24 hours, you're not going to dehydrate and die from 24 hours.
00:58:06
whoneedsmoney
 we'll you know we'll We'll give you water.
00:58:10
whoneedsmoney
 And we'll keep you safe. We'll keep you in a tent.
00:58:13
whoneedsmoney
 It'll be nice and dry.
00:58:16
whoneedsmoney
 But there's no, there's nothing.
00:58:20
whoneedsmoney
 You just have to think.
00:58:22
Chris
 What if like a little squirrel runs into the campsite?
00:58:25
whoneedsmoney
 Well, you'll be in the tent.
00:58:30
whoneedsmoney
 We'll keep you isolated in the, you know, we'll make a bubble.
00:58:35
Chris
 Like a biodam kind of thing.
00:58:36
whoneedsmoney
 You're like a biodome thing. We'll keep all the spiders out.
00:58:38
Chris
 All right. Oh, thank goodness.
00:58:41
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. I know. We'll just leave you there.
00:58:42
Chris
 Twenty four hours. Godly day. It would either be just total, totally insightful and, you know, like that or I would be a broken, broken person at the end of it.
00:58:57
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that's kind of my worry.
00:58:58
Chris
 I don't think there's there's there's no in between.
00:59:01
whoneedsmoney
 Right. Like you're not going to come out of there, but like, ah, whatever. Right.
00:59:05
whoneedsmoney
 But you're going to come out there and be like, wow, I, I've never had time to like focus on myself like that.
00:59:12
whoneedsmoney
 And be just alone with your, that you're not, ah you're never that alone with your thoughts.
00:59:17
Chris
 yeah Maybe that's how I unlock my Jedi powers.
00:59:21
whoneedsmoney
 That's quite possibly, I still have been practicing line in the gym.
00:59:26
whoneedsmoney
 That was only worked out one time.
00:59:26
Chris
 Yeah. Or it breaks you and you just think you have the
00:59:33
whoneedsmoney
 Do you think it would break you though?
00:59:37
whoneedsmoney
 I don't know.
00:59:37
Chris
 there I A 45 minute YouTube video that Neil de Crass Tyson did on time broke me.
00:59:44
whoneedsmoney
 Sure, but you you wouldn't have that.
00:59:48
whoneedsmoney
 It'd just be you.
00:59:50
whoneedsmoney
 And you're free to think whatever you want.
00:59:53
whoneedsmoney
 Think about whatever.
00:59:58
whoneedsmoney
 How long do you think you could go?
01:00:02
Chris
 I mean, I could probably go a day.
01:00:06
whoneedsmoney
 I think I could make it a week.
01:00:08
Chris
 Whoo, total isolation.
01:00:09
whoneedsmoney
 I mean, i total isolation, now we need food and water at this point.
01:00:12
Chris
 yeah Yeah, I mean, yeah. OK, we'll say Maslow's, you know, first couple of needs are met.
01:00:17
whoneedsmoney
 Right, die our grenades.
01:00:19
Chris
 Yeah. Yeah. Food, shelter, security. You got it.
01:00:22
whoneedsmoney
 Yep, I think I could make it a week.
01:00:27
whoneedsmoney
 I think I could go a week without talking to anybody. I think I'd actually, and I'd relish it.
01:00:33
whoneedsmoney
 I think about it all the time now because I used to be able to sit and focus and be quiet and I've become unable to do that anymore.
01:00:46
whoneedsmoney
 I think I, I think I want that back because we just, ah you know, your your phone, you're like, Oh, and I always like rationalize myself.
01:00:56
whoneedsmoney
 Like, Oh, I'm looking up. Like today I was looking up, uh, one of the guys who followed Oliver Cromwell during the so English Civil Wars I'm reading his Wikipedia page because whatever that's um that's what I do I'm a nerd but I was like oh actually I'm learning but I'm not learning I'm just doom scrolling in a different way I'm doom scrolling history right like I'm still like feeding that itch of looking at my phone or watching TV which I don't watch TV as much but I'm watching YouTube videos or
01:01:32
whoneedsmoney
 Something, you know. I think it would be good for me.
01:01:39
Chris
 In 2016, Albert Woodfox reentered society after spending more than 40 years in isolation.
01:01:47
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that guy was a nutbar.
01:01:49
Chris
 ah yeah Yeah, most of this says it really depends on the individual. But yeah. Weeks to months can have a negative impact on mental health.
01:02:02
whoneedsmoney
 I'm not talking months, but maybe a week to
01:02:03
Chris
 Because we're sexual creatures. Yeah. A week?
01:02:10
whoneedsmoney
 just unplug from everything.
01:02:13
whoneedsmoney
 Like once last time you put your phone down for a week and didn't have YouTube.
01:02:18
Chris
 True. I don't know.
01:02:23
whoneedsmoney
 Well, I can tell you this, it's been more than 1800 days for me because that's how long my dual lingo streak is.
01:02:33
Chris
 Yeah, judging by, yeah, mine's been at least 1,200 days.
01:02:37
whoneedsmoney
 Right? So i've I've at least had my phone every day for that many days.
01:02:38
Chris
 Yeah. God, and then when you think about it, I mean, that's years. That's almost a decade.
01:02:50
whoneedsmoney
 It's like three years.
01:02:52
Chris
 three years yeah sorry i was thinking weeks not years yeah or is it really though because what's a day what is a day really because why don't we have 13 months yeah 1328 day months it makes sense right really
01:02:53
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah. We're gonna go for it. Yeah.
01:02:59
whoneedsmoney
 But... All right, all right. Don't let's not go down that ramp at all.
01:03:08
whoneedsmoney
 Well, the Chinese calendar does have 13 months.
01:03:12
whoneedsmoney
 No, no, it's 1228 day months and every three years of 13th month.
Time Measurement Musings
01:03:21
whoneedsmoney
 Because the so the way the solar calendar works versus the lunar calendar is it's still 1228 day months, but you have to add a month to fix the Deji mess.
01:03:34
Chris
 But do you really miss them?
01:03:36
whoneedsmoney
 Well, yes, because then all of a sudden like the summer equinox is happening in you know December.
01:03:47
whoneedsmoney
 The question really is why don't we have a better lunar calendar?
01:03:53
whoneedsmoney
 That's really the question.
01:04:01
Chris
 There's somebody out there that's a first time listener going, this Chris guy, he's here to really on something or he is on something.
01:04:09
whoneedsmoney
 Maybe both.
01:04:13
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, I just, uh, I kind of want to unplug.
01:04:16
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's me people do those, you know, weekend retreats and stuff. Just lock yourself in a cabin for a weekend.
01:04:25
whoneedsmoney
 But do you?
01:04:28
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that's insane.
01:04:31
whoneedsmoney
 You could, we could find you a cabin.
01:04:34
Chris
 Oh, yeah. Sure. Nice padded walls.
01:04:39
whoneedsmoney
 We're taking you to a cabin to isolate, Chris.
01:04:43
whoneedsmoney
 Of course, ah time is ah i as a construct.
01:04:44
Chris
 They're there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:47
whoneedsmoney
 I know, crime is a construct, yeah.
01:04:49
Chris
 There's no clocks. Don't worry. Oh, my gosh.
01:04:55
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, that's where you would get screwed up, is when you mess with your circadian rhythm too much.
01:05:00
whoneedsmoney
 That's when you get real messed up, which my circadian rhythm is already screwed up.
01:05:09
Chris
 Yeah, it's gonna take you time to readjust after retirement yeah What no Like dogs
01:05:13
whoneedsmoney
 yeah yeah yeah
01:05:19
whoneedsmoney
 I'd like to go back to the old way of sleeping where you sleep and you wake up for like two hours and then you sleep again. That's the more natural way of sleeping.
01:05:33
whoneedsmoney
 Uh, no, no, like you, you, you're up during the day. Like you get up with the sun, you do your work for the dead day and then you go to bed and early and then you wake up around midnight and you, they, you would read or do whatever.
01:05:47
whoneedsmoney
 And then you would go back to bed.
01:05:49
Chris
 I like sleepy time.
01:05:51
whoneedsmoney
 I can't remember what they call it. It's it's a it's the more natural cycle of sleep.
01:06:06
Chris
 I enjoy sleep. God, I miss when I was a teenager and I could sleep for like 14 hours.
01:06:11
whoneedsmoney
 Yes, that's true. yeah
01:06:14
Chris
 Now, it doesn't matter what time I go to bed. Number six up.
01:06:19
whoneedsmoney
 in the middle medieval habit of two sleeps.
01:06:25
Chris
 That's a little too sleepwhismr.
01:06:29
whoneedsmoney
 Well, you also had to like, soak your fire, you know, there's a lot of stuff.
01:06:36
Chris
 Bring in the silage.
01:06:37
whoneedsmoney
 Bring the silage. Yeah.
01:06:44
Chris
 I'll think about this cabin isolation.
01:06:50
whoneedsmoney
 I think we should do it.
01:06:52
Chris
 Hmm, the Wii, yeah. Oh, at the end, I would definitely be saying Wii.
01:06:59
Chris
 We've been in the cabin for 24 hours.
01:07:03
whoneedsmoney
 What are 24 hours though?
01:07:03
Chris
 We figured out time. Yeah.
01:07:10
whoneedsmoney
 We don't even know what day it is.
01:07:20
Chris
 Well, folks, I hope you enjoyed listening to this episode on your Zune.
01:07:24
whoneedsmoney
 Oh, as we slowly descend into the pit of madness.
01:07:28
Chris
 Yes. a Like, subscribe, share.
01:07:33
whoneedsmoney
 But also don't listen to this because we want you to isolate for two weeks.
01:07:33
Chris
 Join the Discord group.
01:07:39
whoneedsmoney
 man Oh, that will be.
01:07:39
Chris
 Just play this on a loop for 24 hours. Oof. Yeah.
01:07:48
whoneedsmoney
 Yeah, don't do that.
01:07:50
whoneedsmoney
 Don't listen.
01:07:50
Chris
 I mean, we have enough episodes.
01:07:51
Chris
 They can do a long weekend.
01:07:54
whoneedsmoney
 yeah most definitely and if you're sick stay the heck home
01:07:55
Chris
 Yeah, yeah. So, but yeah. Hope you folks aren't isolating. You're getting social interaction, staying away from the flu, and ah yeah enjoying yourself.