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“Don’t put avocado on the burger!”
Christmas has come early this year with a new Silent Night, Deadly Night remake in theaters. In an effort to avoid discussing the film, we go deep on Season 51 of “Saturday Night Live,” plan an Eddie Murphy theme month, discuss Tucker’s controversial feelings on the subject of Malcolm McDowell, and weigh in on the Quentin Tarantino/Paul Dano controversy. Don’t miss this one!
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Introduction and Casual Banter
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Forget about it. Damn it. You bitch. Hey. Hey. This scumbag. He owes me tree bananas. The clan.
00:00:14
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I got your bananas right here. Hey. I'm like a fucking eggplant.
00:00:23
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That's it. That's all I got. End scene. cut this, put this at the end. No, it's the cold open, dude. We had a cold open like three weeks ago and was fantastic. I don't know about that. You segued so well into the theme song and like you didn't even mean to. It was like if I were to say right now and now our theme song and then you just started the podcast, I would put the theme song in there. It would be fantastic.
00:00:49
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And now for something...
00:01:01
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No sequel
00:01:13
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Completely different. You better watch out, you better not cry, you better not pout, because the disenfranchised podcast is coming to town. That's right, I didn't even bother with that other interstitial line, because fuck it.
00:01:27
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That's where we are today. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and joining me as always, the king of the Grinch. it's ah It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Ho, ho, hello, Stephen.
00:01:41
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How are we doing tonight, buddy? i You know what? I'm doing pretty all right. Today was my day off. Oh, that must be nice. my My one day off, and check this out. This is what I don't understand about my schedule. I have kind of this weird 3-2,
SNL Critique and Cast Discussions
00:01:58
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4-2 schedule going on, which what I mean by that is I work three days.
00:02:03
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I get two days off. I work another three days. I get two days off. I work four days I get one day off and I work another four days. That's ah no no no no no no, no, no, no. Put that put one day in between the two or between the two threes. That would make more sense for me.
00:02:23
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Correct. Because I have one day off. ah Like I told you earlier off Mike, they put me in the freezer on Saturday. So I'm doing freezer training for the entire week. So I'm going to be cold as shit. It's minus 10 in our freezer.
00:02:36
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And it's not much warmer outside. Well, it's about 40 degrees warmer here. but which oh that must be nice. It makes it easier to go out when it's what most people would consider very cold when I'm in the actual very cold all day. it Makes it a little easier, but sure sure but not much. But what I'm saying is like today, this was my day off. So I was able to sleep until 11.
00:03:04
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But after I woke up, I have not sat down until right now when I sat down to talk to you. I was putting up shelves in the pantry. i had to go get my kid. I had to, you know, I was at my parents' house and stuff. I haven't stopped.
00:03:21
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Since I woke up, like said, did get to sleep in, which is nice. That is one day off. Motherfuck that. And you know what? I wasted my night last night. Like last night was my late night. I could have stayed up until like theoretically until two in the morning.
00:03:34
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I started watching SNL at eight o'clock when I put my kid to bed because I couldn't watch it Saturday night because I had to work Sunday morning and I slept through most of it. I'm sorry to hear that. If it makes you feel any better, it was not that good an episode.
00:03:48
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No, like it's weird because like Melissa McCarthy was really good in it, but the sketches weren't good. So it was kind of this weird kind of like she was fantastic, but she was really carrying it Which that's, I mean, you get me Melissa McCarthy on there, like, i in her prime, she should have been a cast member, if you ask me.
00:04:06
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What it is, on it's it's an interesting thing, because if they have someone on there that they know can carry, like, a lot of comedic heavy lifting, they will generally make them the center of the sketches, versus...
00:04:20
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an untested comedic actor, they're less likely to trust them with being the center of the sketch. yeah So like you get someone like, like the previous episode with Glenn Powell, he's like the straight man off to the side and like half those sketches at least. Yeah. But when he's being silly, excuse me, like when they're the cheerleaders, sure I thought that was great.
00:04:45
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Sorry about that. all I'll edit that out. I just hit my weed whistle, the aforementioned weed whistle. Affirmentioned before the recording started, but yes. Yeah, to you, because we're friends and we're just continuing a conversation. We just happen to be recording this portion of it. Correct. I'm just including a listener who may be wondering what the fuck you're talking about.
00:05:04
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I thought Glenn Powell was great. I don't like Glenn Powell because like my brain does does not like his face. Oh, I wish it did. But yeah, it is too perfect. But watching that SNL episode has helped my brain accept his face because I thought he was fantastic. I thought it was a better episode than we've had in a while. It is taking this new cast. And by this new cast, I mean, people have come and gone and I still consider it a new cast.
00:05:32
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Like the last three years. There have been so many rebuilding years, but I will tell you, I think they're finding their footing, but. They are. They've gotten rid of some strong talent. Like they've gotten rid of Heidi Gardner and Ego Nuodum.
00:05:45
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um But like, i even really liked. Heidi was all that great, honestly. She's fine. liked Heidi. She was a good utility player. I think she was great. Yeah, exactly. She was, she was like a Kenan that didn't stay for 22 years.
00:05:59
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Well,
Eddie Murphy's Legacy and Film Career
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I mean, and that's just it. Like, I think Kenan's going for the world record of a longest Saturday Night Live cast member ever. And I'm you know what I love about Kenan, though, is that he does have his breakout moments, but he's fine. And I'm fine with him just kind of being the the guy that's there every once in a while. he has some standout characters, but mostly he's just he's usually just the guy who kind of brings the sketch together, like kind of grounds, you know? I miss what up with that. That's one of my favorites. But like half of all the other players who like made that. Bill Hader. You got to get the Jason Sudeikis. You got to get Fred Armisen. Yep. At least you have to at least have those three.
00:06:41
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At least those three. correct oh They pulled it off pretty well. Having ah Bill Hader is like a hologram or whatever. or no, he was, they were zooming with him and it it it froze. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:52
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Like, yeah, that's what it was. You can only make excuses so many times. Right. Come on, Bill. I'm in New York. Just for that. For all of us fans of what's with that. He fucking hates SNL. Like, the SNL gave him so much anxiety, and I don't blame him for not wanting to go back. Like, i I get it, but it makes my heart hurt at the same time. Like, I understand. Like, do I am the I believe me, I am the first person to say do what is best for you and your own mental health and and physical and mental well-being. But like,
00:07:22
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because it's not worth it. But by the same token, I really, i really miss him and what he is capable of doing. i was going to say one of my favorite,
00:07:32
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One of my favorite standouts of the new cast is Ashley Padilla. I am digging everything she does, even if it's just got something very small. Like, I feel like she delivers 100% of the time, and I'm very excited to see what else she has, because I think they're starting to utilize her more and more, and I think she's going to be a really strong player in the years to come.
00:07:53
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She um she makes it all look really, really easy to the point to where if they give her something, if they give her something that's less than like, like cuckoo banana pants, like it stands out like almost in a bad way. Like when they use her right. Yes, please. But when they just put it in the background or something, no, dude, you're wasting it. Just don't even put her in it at all.
00:08:17
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Like, I mean, she's such a big. That's what the other like know the the other like that's what like a Jane Wick line is for. That's what like ah the ah the other the other new girl, Katerina Slowakowska, is that her name?
00:08:32
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I thought it was veronicas Veronica. Veronica. It probably Veronica. And I liked her. I'm like that last sketch of the night, ah the one with her and Jane Wickline.
00:08:43
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Where do the cousins go? Yes. Like i I didn't think that that was like really, really good. It was pretty good. But like, it makes me excited to see those two makes more things together because they're kind of a perfect perfect match.
00:09:01
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ah you've You've got the two sides you need to make a whole with those. Which is. mouths One of the things I didn't like about Jane's first season is there wasn't anyone she really seemed to mesh and meld with.
00:09:13
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She has her moments, but yeah, I agree with you. She But like she she kind of stuck out like a sore thumb, which is why I'm kind of surprised they got rid of Emil of the three. liked him and Michael Logfellow. What the fuck? Yes.
00:09:29
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Agreed. Michael Luffalo is such a cutie. get to Get that boy back. Come on, man. Well, that's the problem. You got two cuties and, you know, Marcelo Hernandez has a recurring character. So you stick you stick with the guy. I'm just, know, just throwing that out there.
00:09:44
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Less Domingo. Honestly, look, I like i like that. Domingo is, they've done him three times and they've done him two times too many. I didn't even get it. The first time I was just kind of like, what the fuck is this?
00:09:55
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you can't You can't have recurring characters the same way you used to be able to. i think we've discussed this before on air, and it's because everything is just there. like Back in the day, you had recurring characters because like you didn't have that shit on demand. like You might have a Best Of DVD or something, but like so when the character came back, they could do all the same jokes because you hadn't seen it in a couple months.
00:10:18
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So like they just tweak the same jokes just a little bit and you're good. Church lady, Wayne's world, all cone heads, all that shit. It's just the same joke over and over, but you spread it out. it's when Those guys come back and revisit those sketches because you haven't seen them in decades at this point. Right? Like when Dana Carvey comes back to do a guest spot and like he happens to pull out the church lady for five minutes, you're like, fuck yes. Where's this been for the last 20 years?
00:10:43
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That's why Lisa from Temecula was embarrassing the second time around. right The first time, funny. Second time, fuck out of here with this shit. I just saw this two weeks ago. Get the fuck out of here.
00:10:54
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And there are others that you can. And that's how I felt about Domingo as well. Like you can put some of these characters in different situations and give the jokes kind of a fresh face. But with these, because SNL is now so situational in nature, you're bringing out the same characters and you're essentially doing the same sketches over and over again. They've done three Domingo sketches and it's been the same sketch every fucking time.
00:11:16
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Yes. Yes. I agree. um So that's all more about it What you do is you you turn the tables. Like, it starts out as a regular Domingo sketch, but somehow it switches around to where the the guy who's supposed to be being cheated on, he he, like, maybe he gets with Domingo's girl or something. Like, you gotta...
00:11:41
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It's not like the old days, like I said, where you could just like slightly tweak the jokes. no you got to You have to keep the same format, basically, but you got to flip everything else upside down to keep this shit exciting when it comes to recurring characters. Modern recurring characters on SNL, yeah.
00:11:56
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Well, and yeah, again, so so much of it has shifted away from character based stuff, too, so that characters don't yeah really even matter. like in And the jokes have to be funny multiple times. And I think part of what what I love about what what's up with that is, yes, it's the same jokes over and over and over again, but you get But you can do so much with it.
00:12:16
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They're interacting different ways. It's a base. Just
Discussion of 'Silent Night' and Horror Genre
00:12:20
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the baseline is funny. So they just go crazy with it in so many different ways. And they have the guests come on as like some weird like alt band always at the end. Like that's always interesting. Well, and when Martin Short was on, he did like one of his recurring SNL characters from like back when he was on SNL for like the one season or two seasons. on Eddie Murphy, that already Murphy episode from a few years ago amazing.
00:12:44
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fantastic for that they brought yes mr robinson dude gumby i'm gumby he's jewish and i love it it's so good it's such a good jewish gonna be yes black jewish gumby we love to see it the sammy davis jr of gumby jones dude they brought back velvet jones velvet jones man yeah oh are you in between the ages of 18 and 24 and are you are looking for a job
00:13:12
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Yeah, the no, the Eddie Murphy, yeah because, and again, those characters had not been on the show since the, because Eddie Murphy had not come back since the 80s. it was It wasn't until the 40th where he was like, all right, I might, yeah i might come back and do this. like I think that kind of convinced him.
00:13:27
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Yeah. And I mean, they because they wanted to bring him back in the the celebrity Jeopardy to do the Cosby joke. And that was like right after the Cosby allegations came out. And he was like, i don't want to kick a man while he's down. I think he's because I think he did it on the episode he was on. I think he did a Cosby thing that was a little a little sharper. And I think by that point, there was enough distance where he was like, yeah, fuck the Cosby.
00:13:48
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yo but not literally the best one of my favorite things on the 50th was the celebrity jeopardy where he was tracy morgan like tracy morgan fuck that was so holy fuck he was so no that wasn't celebrity that was black jeopardy yeah okay yeah was tom hanks there i don't remember Yeah, I think he he like slid in toward the end and added an extra podium for him something. Murphy is Tracy Morgan. i don't know. Tracy Morgan was there too, but I don't remember who he was playing. I don't think he was just playing like a regular guy. He was just a guy. Yeah, yeah i think if I remember correctly. yeah But Eddie Murphy had it like, despite he chooses a lot of bullshit projects to work on, but that man is still sharp as fuck. i mean He's so funny.
00:14:34
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Can we do an Eddie Murphy theme month on this show? Maybe Metro would be one of them. Let's do Metro for sure. really like that movie, actually. ah Pluto Nash would be another one that we could probably do. What's the one that... We've already done his Haunted Mansion.
00:14:51
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There's one that Dr. Forrester from Mystery Science Theater 3000 co-wrote or co-developed. the The one where he's in the it's the guy's inside his head. Meet Dave?
00:15:02
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Yeah, is that the one? I think so. Let me see. This is thrilling. pot Yes, meet Dave. 2008. We haven't. Here's my favorite thing is that we haven't even said what movie.
00:15:16
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No, we have done 15 solid minutes on last night's episode of SNL. no it's bill So Bill Corbett co-wrote co-wrote this, yes and he was the second Crow. He was Crow in the sci-fi era. And he is currently with he is currently part of Mike and Kevin. the Yeah, they they do riff tracks.
00:15:37
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Yes, riff tracks. yeah um Norbit, we can we could probably make a case for Norbit. Nah, we don't need to see that. let's let's Oh, I Spy is definitely on the list.
00:15:47
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Oh, yeah. Oh, I with Owen Wilson with Owen Wilson. Yes. Yeah, that was that's a that's a weird movie because I i have a lot of fun with it, but I don't know why they called it. I spy really. It's kind of like the Dawn of the Dead remake. Like I kind of anything like the I spy show elements of it sort of. Yeah, but the we could we could make a case for Vampire in Brooklyn.
00:16:13
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Yeah, dude. Dude, look, you get me Metro, Vampire in Brooklyn, I spy and something that doesn't suck, and I'm into it. ah Well, Pluto Nash, but Pluto Nash sucks, but it's we we can't do an Eddie Murphy month and not do Pluto Nash.
00:16:28
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i Because that is the beginning. That's the beginning of the end of his miracle run, like in the early in the late ninety s early two thousand s Yeah. Like, cause he comes back with the, like, he's, he's kind of in a slump after Beverly Hills cop three and vampire in Brooklyn. He immediately chases that professor Beverly Hills cop three is bullshit.
00:16:50
Speaker
It is like delete that movie from Canon because you've got, you've already got a good trilogy. You've got the original, you've got part two. And I thought Axel F was every bit as good as part two.
00:17:05
Speaker
Perfect trilogy right there. But Beverly Hills Cop 3 is the outlier in that it is directed by John Landis and is bad. Why? Why is it so bad? I don't understand.
00:17:16
Speaker
I have two words for you, and they're two words I've already uttered in succession, but this will be the last time I utter these two words in succession in this episode. John Landis. But no, look, I get why people don't like John Landis as a person, but there are plenty John Landis movies that I like. He is a competent filmmaker, and he's made some movies that I have very much enjoyed.
00:17:36
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so that's why I say like what the fuck like because usually I go into a John Landis movie I'm like y'all probably like this Beverly Hills Cop 3 is just so it's so isn't it PG-13 because it feels so like sanitized it's like the sanitized Beverly Hills Cop and they even use laser guns and shit what the fuck It's dumb. It's very dumb. ah I wish – I would just like to erase that movie, honestly. Because like I said, the – what wish could cover, though? All three those other films.
00:18:10
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and I don't know. We could probably make a case for it. I don't think there was ever a sequel planned. I would love to cover Bowfinger because I fucking love Bowfinger. I love that. No, I don't know why, but I feel like we should do Bowfinger and Bullworth around the same time.
00:18:25
Speaker
I don't know why. i haven't figured out why don't think Bullworth ever wanted a sequel either. they weren't really It doesn't matter, but Warren Beatty says nappy dugout in that movie. He sure does. Warren Beatty says a lot of shit Warren Beatty should not be saying in that movie. I am be here for it 100% all the time.
00:18:44
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You know what makes a really bizarre double feature with Bullworth? Bob Roberts. Oh, word. I was thinking, speaking of Eddie Murphy, what's the one with him and Jeff Goldblum? Holy Man.
00:18:56
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Have you seen that one? I haven't. it's um it's It's on this list of Eddie Murphy movies that i'm currently looking at. Yes. Let's do an Eddie Murphy year. Can we do an Murphy year? Is that possible? No. At that point, we should just start an Eddie Murphy podcast. Yeah.
00:19:12
Speaker
Start with 48 hours and don't finish until we get to the pickup, which I didn't see. It is not good. It'll be 2026. Eddie Murphy takes over disenfranchised. And maybe we do enough.
00:19:24
Speaker
You know, maybe he'll be like, hey, get Eddie Murphy on the podcast. Come be on your show with my Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby puppets. have You seen that? He got those puppets.
00:19:35
Speaker
You don't follow him on Instagram. Okay, never mind. He does impression of both of them perfectly. least I don't doubt him. He has marionettes of both Bill Cosby and Richard Pryor, and they were made for something specific.
00:19:48
Speaker
And then they were like something a long time ago. I don't remember what it was. And then they gave them to him recently, or he bought them or something. I don't know. They're historical artifacts is what I'm saying. And now he has them and he makes Instagram reels with them doing both the voices. And it's very, very funny.
00:20:05
Speaker
Honestly, Eddie Murphy, he's so much funnier off the cuff that like just stop making movies and just become full time content creator. Eddie Murphy, I will watch your reels. I will watch your YouTube channel.
00:20:18
Speaker
ah I will watch all that shit. Give me like 10 minute videos every two days. Let's go. That's the new stand up. It's the new stand up. Do it. It kind of goes. Yeah.
00:20:30
Speaker
He could be one of those, ah what do they call the YouTubers that just kind of, I guess they're commentator YouTubers. They just kind of talk about whatevs. ah People like ah Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzalez and and people like that, who are just commentator YouTubers. He could be one of those, and it would be very, very funny.
00:20:52
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I want to see. Eddie Murphy on TikTok reacting to like cooking videos. No, it's not reacting to anything, man. These are commentary videos on YouTube. It's like ah some of them will talk about like TikTok trends or um like anything. They'll talk about anything that's like Internet related, but they'll make like a 10, 15 minute video about it. And it's humorous. And I think Eddie Murphy would be good at that kind of stuff.
00:21:27
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And that's why this is our episode on 2012's Silent Night. You guys, we watched 2012's Silent Night, and it was it was there, really. was there. written Written by Jason Rothwell, directed by Stephen C. Miller. Who?
00:21:44
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I'm pretty sure, i i'm i cannot, I think we've covered something of his on the podcast before. Maybe we haven't. Maybe I'm just making shit up. I don't have IMDb even pulled up. I usually do. I've, I've got everything pulled up.
00:21:57
Speaker
Um, he is, oh goodness. What his filmography, ah apparently the aggression scale. Mike recommends the, uh, Mike's Nooney and our friend over at the pot and the pendulum recommends the aggression scale.
00:22:11
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I've never even heard of. Yeah. Like not a lot like, uh, first kill arsenal marauders. A lot of those like Bruce
Film Analysis and Box Office Discussions
00:22:20
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Willis direct to, um, ah direct to red box movies. ah There was a movie that came out last year that he directed is supposed to be pretty good called werewolves with Frank Grillo.
00:22:31
Speaker
I like werewolf movies. So I'll probably catch you it at some point. What's that? What's that one with Sam Richardson from Detroiters? There's a werewolf movie with him. What's that? Werewolves within. We almost covered that for video game for a video game month last year. Oh, because it's a video game thing. I want to watch that because I really like him. that That is a very important movie in the history of this podcast because that is the first movie that Brett and I saw in theaters ah after the COVID restrictions started. Together as friends. Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, we we went and checked that out in theaters.
00:23:03
Speaker
He made a movie called Scream of the Banshee. Yep, true did. Do you remember Night of the Creeps? Remember The Janitor? Yeah. And he describes how Homeboy runs out of the place screaming scream Screamy like Banshee.
00:23:22
Speaker
I love that. That's one of my favorite parts of that movie. Sorry, please continue. Written by Jason Rothwell, directed by Stephen C. Miller, and starring Malcolm McDowell. Yes, that Malcolm McDowell. Jamie King, Donal Logue, Ellen Wong, Lisa Marie.
00:23:39
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um Some other people here. We got Courtney Jane White, Courtney Palm, Brendan Fair. A few others. What a cast. Doreen Brownstone. I'm just skipping around here. You passed everyone that matters, really. Once you passed um Lisa Marie, there was not really anyone to talk about after that. Yeah. Anyway, what a cast. What a picture. There it is. I've said my line. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your line. um I don't mind interrupting you, but I don't want to mess up any your lines. um lisa marie by the way and i i might maybe we can find a way to post this on social media i will find you pictures of her looking like she's about to eat me
00:24:26
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ah bet that does something to you doesn't it it scares me um but in a fun way I mean, it's nice to know that she was trying to get me and stuff, but like at the same time, na dude, I don't like sexually aggressive people.
00:24:45
Speaker
She was like, man. prefer to be an aggressor then? Is that it? No, I prefer to just like be normal people and then like when the time comes, to be like, well, ah think think I think I'm going to have sex with you now.
00:25:00
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And then you do it. And that's that's how it goes. You keep your shirt on. You know, lights off. You know. there's a hole in the sheet.
00:25:11
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Has gotten down. Oh, God.
00:25:17
Speaker
No, I tease. I'm not such a prude. But at the same time, she was very... What, are having Gumby? she was She was very aggressive, and it made me uncomfortable. Yes, in a good in like the best way I could possibly be uncomfortable, but still uncomfortable. she's That's not to say anything bad about her, because she was perfectly nice and and fantastic and accommodating. It's just I got the feeling that given the chance, she would have just...
00:25:43
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literally eaten me right there. Swallowed me whole my entire body. Just the way she was looking at me. and I'll see if I can get those pictures, to which I say, bring it on. Maybe we can put them up on our social medias.
00:25:59
Speaker
um But this is a kind of remake slash legacy. Cool. Question mark to so the silent night, deadly night franchise. Yeah.
00:26:11
Speaker
And you know what? I realized that that's what they're going for here. And there's a few references to it. And that's real fucking cool and shit. But I really appreciated the um what was the movies we did last year? I've seen all of them because of this podcast. Every Black Christmas. I enjoyed the Black Christmas homage. That was my favorite.
00:26:33
Speaker
And the fact that the girl didn't die from that. Right. Like they set it up. It's like, oh, look, you guys may be black Christmas. We're going black Christmas are right now. And then they don't, though.
00:26:46
Speaker
and And that's why i appreciate it Also, what the fuck? Did so a different director? Was there a different director and cinematographer for the flashbacks? Because the flashbacks are fantastic and they're full of really creative shots. Like the cinematography is just really just out there in a good way on on the flashbacks of the the killer.
00:27:06
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And like kind of in the middle of the movie, they have a little flashback, but then they end the movie with the entire flashback. Right. That shit looks great. I don't know why it's so different.
00:27:18
Speaker
But it looks fantastic. That was something it kind of stood out to me how good it looked, actually. I don't see anything about like there being ah additional or I mean, it could have been it's entirely possible it was handled by second unit, but there's nothing in the.
00:27:34
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ah Yeah, not a not a note with a lot in it. So or not a movie with a lot said about it. Not a lot of people have written about this movie. um I guess I should say I have never this is the first Silent Night, Deadly Night film I've seen.
00:27:49
Speaker
I've never seen any of these movies before, so I kind of knew it was about a a killer dress up like Santa in like a kind of in the like Halloween holiday slasher kind of milieu. But I didn't really know much else about it. What is your ah familiarity and history with the Silent Night, Deadly Night franchise, Tucker?
00:28:10
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Well, I've been aware of the franchise for many, many years, but I really chose not to engage with it just because ice just really didn't have any interest in it. Sure. You know, the sequels were bargain basement. Like the original was really, if it hadn't had had, if it hadn't been Christmas, Halloween, basically. Right. Nobody would have given a shit.
00:28:38
Speaker
I just I never found the time for him. I know I probably should have seen them at some point because like horror was my thing there for a while. And it is but like not as strong. I'm more of just a general cinema fan now. But there was a time like I got my start in horror is what I'll say. sure My tastes are very broad now.
00:28:57
Speaker
But horror is what gave me the cinema bug.
00:29:02
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Yeah, I don't know where I was going with that. But ah yeah, I just never engaged with them. I know everything about them because even before there was the Internet, like that's the kind of movies they would write about in horror movie books.
00:29:17
Speaker
Yes. So I in general know everything about them. I have just never seen them except for obviously the garbage day clip. Right. Which the second wave if anyone knows anything about any of these movies, it's garbage day.
00:29:33
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Yeah. And they I I did the garbage day thing in this movie was I guess that was OK. Like, good job. Sure. And that was before the meme. So like, OK, the fact that they did that before the meme getting ahead of the memes. Yeah.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah. Because this was what? 2012. 2012. Proper memes did not exist 2012. twenty twelve proper proper memes did not exist in twenty twelve Well, not in the way that – I mean memes have existed for a while. Mimetic theory has been a thing for a long time. Well, yeah, but I mean modern – the modern definition of a meme.
00:30:07
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like the way that we refer to them and and pass them around and share them now, it's a very different thing. I mean, there were even in the early days of the internet, you've got shit like salad fingers and the end of the world, you know, very popular kind of memetic shit. They got passed around. Okay. Here is earth round. Here's the earth.
00:30:27
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it's That is a sweet earth. You might say round. the Round. Round. ah Love the end of the ah end of the world. What a what a great ah Flash animation.
00:30:40
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um But yeah, not super familiar with Silent Night, Deadly Night, or any of the movies in that franchise. ah So I kind of came into this movie really blind.
00:30:51
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um And I feel like I might have had a greater appreciation for what this... Well, I feel like I might have had a greater appreciation for this if I had more knowledge of the franchise going into it.
00:31:03
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Um... Because, yeah, the whole thing kind of just felt very one note to me in ah in a lot of ways. Like, I didn't really – there wasn't a lot here that I was super excited about engaging with. And the more the movie went on, the more the less excited I became. Like, I i loved i love the actors. and Like, I love Malcolm McDowell. I love Donald Logue. I love Jamie King. Like, I love Lisa Marie.
00:31:28
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I thought ah there wasn't enough Lisa Marie, by the way. Speaking of Lisa Marie, I just sent you an email, Stephen. sent you an email of three photographs that you might take a look at and decide which ones, if not all three, you want to put on our social media as proof that um Lisa Marie tried to get me once. Oh, yeah. No, she is absolutely. Yeah, she's looking directly your mouth.
00:31:54
Speaker
You see the progression, right? To where she's like, oh, this guy. Oh, wait, this guy. I have to eat this guy. It's the third one. She's looking at your eyes. She's looking at your mouth. And then and then there's the picture of both of you looking at the camera with you kind of with the awkward thumbs up. ah Yep, thumbs up. I'm like, oh, I got to get away from this bitch real quick. like You're like, I'm in danger in that third one. I am married. Goodbye. Well, was then, you know.
00:32:20
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you Yeah, at the at the time, yes, of course. But yeah, what I'm saying is not enough Lisa Marie. um I thought Malcolm McDowell sucked in this movie. He was miscast. And like I said before, normally in movies like this, he tends to phone it in.
00:32:37
Speaker
But in this one, he may have faxed it in because it was so fucking bad. I said email before. That's almost as good. But then I just thought of faxing it in is probably worse. It's better. Though I thought Jamie King was really good. Like they didn't give her much work with, but she was a strong fucking lead. Like I liked They never do. They never give Jamie King much to do. And that's, I think one of the reasons why Jamie King has never kind of popped as a leading lady. Like let's, let's get into the Jamie King of it all for a little bit. Cause I think that's a a conversation worth having.
00:33:07
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She put more into this role than was there. Like she took it to another level. This movie doesn't deserve her performance is what saying. i'm I'm inclined to agree with you Now we have covered Jamie King twice before, at least according to her known for. Yep. My bloody Valentine and the spirit. Yeah. And the spirit. Yep. Two movies we've covered. See our past episodes on those. But like, she was kind of one of the it girls in the late nineties, early two thousands, as I recall.
00:33:34
Speaker
Um, Like her first movie is 99, so maybe early 2000s, but she's in Blow. She's in Pearl Harbor, a movie I saw in theaters. um Slackers. Slackers. Hey, you guys. Forgotten, gross-out teen comedy from the early 2000s. Also, one of Jason Schwartzman's best performances.
00:33:57
Speaker
I going to I'm not a big Jason Schwartzman guy, so that but that's that's good to hear. Actually, if you go onto my YouTube channel at youtube.com slash Ice909, that's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine, you will find in the two EPs that I released about three ago, cover the song...
00:34:17
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um a cover of the song that Jason Schwartzman character sings at the end of this movie, Slackers, called Little Locked Room.
00:34:27
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And his character in this movie is Cool Ethan. And boy, it is truly one of the characters of cinematic history.
00:34:39
Speaker
Truly one of the characters in that movie, for sure. and Well, no, i mean the whole I mean, you got Jason Segel, you got Devin Sawa, you got Big Pete from Adventures of Pete and Pete. You've got fucking Homegirl from that 70s show. Like, it's a stacked cast for the time for that kind of movie.
00:34:57
Speaker
And the rest of the movie, it's fine. It's watchable and it's engaging enough. But Jason Schwartzman is cool, Ethan. Fuck. That is the reason to watch Slackers. I saw this movie three times in the movie theaters because of Jason Schwartzman's performance. Like, the first time I went in blind, I was like, this might be fun, whatever. Teen comedy, college thing, whatever.
00:35:17
Speaker
But Jason Schwartzman, and this is after I had seen Rushmore, so i already knew he was the shit. But this performance, there... There are few better performances in cinematic history. Like...
00:35:31
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um of Jason Schwartzman in Slackers as Cool Ethan is the equivalent of like Al Pacino in any Godfather film.
00:35:45
Speaker
Oh, and hey, he's related to the guy that directed those movies too. he He is. that's He's like the grandson. No, it's his grandpa. Granduncle? Talia Shire, Francis Ford Coppola's brother, is Jason Schwartzman's... Francis Ford Coppola is Talia Shire's brother, and Talia Shire's son is Jason Schwartzman.
00:36:06
Speaker
okay. I thought, okay, yeah, I had that mixed up. But yeah, that's wild. Yeah, Jason Schwartzman in Slackers. The movie, Average. The Jason Schwartzman of it all...
00:36:19
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Don't I mean, don't discount that. That is that's an Academy Award winning performance right there. It should be at least. There's nothing.
00:36:32
Speaker
Nothing better than Jason Schwartzman and slackers. Anyway, she's also in what now? What's this bulletproof monk? That's crazy. john william feels in That future episode of this podcast, bulletproof monk.
00:36:43
Speaker
um We will absolutely cover that one of these days. um She's in White Chicks, Cheaper by the Dozen 2, the Matthew McConaughey Al Pacino film 2 for the money that does not exist. It doesn't. And then, like, oh, and of course Sin City. we should We should all shout out Sin City because she's very good in Sin City. It's probably going have got her cast in the spirit, honestly, because that's... I was going to say, that's...
00:37:07
Speaker
That's Frank Miller. Yeah. And since it is kind of her last big thing, like she does the spirit in 2008, my bloody Valentine in 2009. She's also in fanboys in 2009 as well. And then after that, it's a bunch of shit I've never heard of before, which is a big old bummer. Cause yeah. Isn't something called mother's day in 2010. That sounds like a movie. we'd probably Whoa. The band. She's the band. She stuff does not stop. She's in a movie in 2022 called code code name. Banshee.
00:37:34
Speaker
Oh, there you go. Screaming like Banshee. It all comes back. And she is. She plays herself in Ocean's 8. I'm guessing is one of the people at the Met Gala. um a Another episode of this podcast that we'll you know we'll get to one day, Ocean's 8. I didn't see that. is That's the girl one, right? i always wanted to see that. Is it good? But it's still directed by... Is it still...
00:37:57
Speaker
It's not Soderbergh, no. Oh, why? You're hoping it's Soderbergh and it's not Soderbergh. It's Gary Ross. I guess, but why? I don't know. But they're they're getting the band back together, the original crew back together, minus minus the great Bernard Mack, of course, but um for for the new Ocean's 14 or whatever they're calling it, but yeah.
00:38:18
Speaker
Okay. Cool. but yeah No, i like I like Jamie King. But yeah, like after the mid-aughts, like she had a little bit of stuff to do if you're a nerd in the late 2000s, but none of that was good. Like Spirit, not good.
00:38:34
Speaker
ah My Bloody Valentine, not good. Fanboy's good. And then after that, just kind of a lot of nothing. I liked My Bloody Valentine. It's not that good. It's not as good as the original My Bloody Valentine. said something about spirit. What's the spirit you're talking about? ah Yeah, go back and I guess rewatch that because you've forgotten. No, you said just spirit.
00:38:57
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You didn't say the spirit. So all I was thinking of was that song from the Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack. That and it is, of course, where your mind would immediately know. He would know.
00:39:10
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Well, I'm sorry I can't be Brett for you, Tucker. Steven, spirit, some people hear it, some people fear it, spirit, some people just a won't go near it, etc., etc., and so on, ad nauseum. If you say so.
00:39:24
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ah But no, love ah love Jamie King. I think she's great. yeah ah wish Wish she would get another shot at the apple because, again, she's wonderful. movie doesn't deserve her, like I said. No. Like she really, with the little that they give her, she's really the only character that I believe this movie. She's really solid.
00:39:44
Speaker
Yes, I concur. And then the material's not even there. It's just her. Exactly. It's just her doing it. Yeah. And meanwhile, Malcolm McDowell is, you know, he's famously an actor who makes a certain amount of money per picture. And if you call him up and say, hey, I've got a role for you. He's like, just give me the number. And if the number matches the number he takes, then he does it. Like, I'm really surprised. Doesn't fucking matter.
00:40:08
Speaker
I'm really surprised he and Eric Roberts aren't in a lot more films together. It would make a lot of sense. what That would make a lot of sense. He's awful in this. He does he is not. Which feels terrible to say. There's a few times where it feels like he's trying to have fun with it, but he still misses the mark.
00:40:29
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like And doing i at best half-assed American accent. like Sometimes it's there. Sometimes it's barely there. Sometimes it he just doesn't even fucking bother. It's absolutely insane.
00:40:44
Speaker
yeah like yeah it's it's a It's a big damn bummer like because you're like, oh, Malcolm McDowell, at least he's going to be good. Rarely is Malcolm McDowell actively bad, but here he is. In fact,
00:40:56
Speaker
actively bad and it is a bit I don't know like I've never really been into Malcolm McDowell is he good? I guess I guess but like really the only thing I liked him in the only thing I really like him in is Tank Girl and it's because he phones in that performance too he doesn't give a fuck about no Tank Girl But that works for his character. Like he is so fortunate.
00:41:23
Speaker
Which i remember you saying on that episode. Where he doesn't give a fuck. But that's perfect. Like, fantastic. Yes, read it like you don't give a fuck because that's that character.
00:41:34
Speaker
Outside of that, like, miss me on all that shit. Like, he was fine as Loomis. The only other thing I kind of liked him in was he was Loomis in the Rob Zombie Halloweens. And I really liked, like, how much of an asshole he was in both of those movies. It really just kind of subverted the expectation of Loomis as a whole. And I really appreciated that.
00:41:53
Speaker
about both of those films and his whole redemption arc. But outside of those two things, I just, I don't give a fuck about no Malcolm McDowell. Honestly, the second one is honestly kind of insane. ah The second Halloween, like what they do with his, yeah his arc in that one is kind of ah in just absolutely that whole movie is insane. And I think, honestly, I think Halloween to the director's cut of Rob zombies. Halloween two is Rob zombies. Best film fight me.
00:42:18
Speaker
no Okay, there you go. Come into the comments. Patreon.com slash Dish in French Pod.
00:42:25
Speaker
yeah let's go Halloween to best Rob zombie movie. He has, um, he, he's done a number of episodes or ah movies that we'll cover on as future episodes. Like Mr. Magoo, the Leslie Nielsen, Mr. Magoo. We'll do that one.
00:42:41
Speaker
I can't wait to think of other ways to like, say phoning it in. I'll be like, he's telegraphing it in. He's using Morse code. Don't waste them all. Now. Tucker. Yeah.
00:42:54
Speaker
You're going to shoot yourself in the foot, man. Don't do that. I suppose you're right. Stephen. But, yeah I mean, yeah I get it. like here The thing about Malcolm McDowell is he's he's done so much that I think the bad outweighs the good at this point. But when he's good, he's really good. Like, Paul Schrader's cat-pubble. Oh, and I'm not mad mad at him. Like, I don't dislike him as a person.
00:43:16
Speaker
This is the opposite of John Landis, where I'm like, motherfucker John Landis, but the boy can direct a movie. With Malcolm McDowell, it's like, I guess I don't have anything against Malcolm McDowell. I just... have seen very little things where he actually tried and that's partially on me it kind of is like he's he has done a lot of great work it's just i think by for the most part these days he's he is you're you're right just kind of you know faxing it in at this point and some of the movies and he's earned the right to fax it in
00:43:48
Speaker
Sure, like I said, I'm not mad at him at all. like He was shit in this movie, and honestly, I don't care because I don't really care about this movie. But the movies that he's good in, like the older stuff where he was kind of proving himself, um shit like Clockwork Orange, man, fuck a Clockwork Orange.
00:44:07
Speaker
That's the thing. like He's really good in that movie, yes, but also fuck that movie. um That is one of the that iss one of the most mean-spirited films I've ever seen. but Is it a landmark in cinema? Yes.
00:44:21
Speaker
Holy shit. It's a fantastic film, but no, dude, I don't like that mean spirited shit. And that that's another thing I don't like about, um, straight up Kubrick, man. Like he can do silly stuff and fun stuff, but when he's at his best, he's just being mean and shitty. And to me, that says something about somebody.
00:44:44
Speaker
One of my favorite Kubrick films, and to be clear, I have not seen all of Kubrick's work. There are a lot of Kubrick blind spots for me. But my favorite Kubrick movie is Eyes Wide Shut, his final film. And that, i fucking love that movie. I'm glad you like it.
00:45:01
Speaker
It is a psychosexual mind fuck. ah Well, first of all, i like Nicole Kidman is like a celebrity crush from long ago. Love Nicole Kidman. yeah To Die For? That's my favorite of hers. I own it on fucking 4K, my brother. And Batman forever.
00:45:17
Speaker
on Dr. Chase, get the fuck out here, dude. Because she's chasing him, you see. um like I love Nicole Kidman. I love her. She's phenomenal. Girl, me too. um and but like i And I think she's amazing in that movie. And i love...
00:45:34
Speaker
Tom Cruise is one of those actors where I think he's really well deployed when someone can get at what makes him weird and really like dig into that. And Eyes Wide Shut is one of those movies that lets Tom Cruise be a little fucking weird.
00:45:50
Speaker
And like, like Paul Thomas Anderson and Magnolia. Yeah. Vanilla Sky is my favorite because you don't normally see Tom Cruise like not being handsome.
00:46:03
Speaker
and that's that was like let's completely de-handsome him where he would just hand himself over to an auteur filmmaker and just say i don't know just put me in something like like you want to cover um uh the color of money for patreon uh for for oh yes please i love that score and that's man a sequel to the hustler are you kidding me I fucking love the hustler too. Like him, but that's him handing himself to Scorsese and saying, use me just like figure out something that I can do that would work. Oh, and he's doing that. And he hadn't fixed his teeth.
00:46:41
Speaker
His teeth were still weird. Oh man. Because they fixed them. Tom Yeah. because they fixed them wrong tom cruise Like he's got a tooth right in the middle of his face. If you've ever watched, if you look at a picture of Tom Cruise's smile, he's got a tooth right in the middle of his face. Like most people have like the the line between teeth right in the middle. He's got a solid tooth right there. And it's because when he got everything capped, they shifted something. And so his smile is still weird.
00:47:08
Speaker
I like old Tom Cruise teeth. But I mean, i i just recently watched and I think I mentioned this on a ah on whenever the last time we recorded it. What are we watching was I watched him in The Outsiders. And that's kind of an an early Tom Cruise performance i i think works really, really well. But over a year ago, Stephen, we it's been our last one over years ago, over a year ago Um, but I, I, but again, I like Eyes Wide Shut for those reasons. And also it's, it's a clandestine Christmas movie. So tis the season to watch Eyes Wide Shut.
00:47:43
Speaker
um Tucker, let's talk a little Donal Logue, because I love that dude. and That guy, Donal Logue, man. He plays ah Santa Jim, the the yeah the main red herring in this movie, which ah Wikipedia tells me his character's name is Jim Epstein.
00:48:02
Speaker
Yes. Yes, because they keep saying that over and over. Right. His brother has an island somewhere. He's that guy in in Blade.
00:48:14
Speaker
there He cuts his hand off first and then he burns him. He's like the main, he's a Deacon Frost's main henchman. Right. he's He's the guy who doesn't die in Die Hard, like Carl, the the big, strong sidekick of Hans Gruber. He's that for Blade. But he was also on a show that I used to watch called Grounded for Life.
00:48:34
Speaker
ah Back in the day, like you that was really fun. yeah like he's He's done a lot. He's done a lot of stuff. He's um he's in Zodiac, my favorite David Fincher film. oh I like that movie. It's not my favorite Fincher, but I love that movie. For a movie that's like three and a half hours long, director's cut, I have seen it way too many times. Strap me the fuck in. that movie For a movie that is not explicitly a horror movie, it is scary as fuck.
00:49:01
Speaker
Yes, like when he goes to that guy who makes the film posters house. Holy shit. Do you know who that guy is played by, Tucker? i feel like I do, but I can't memby it. and That is Charles Fleischer, the voice of Roger Rabbit. Yeah, dude.
00:49:16
Speaker
Dude, yeah. He's also the guy in 2015 who wants him to sum a few bucks to save the clock tower. And in 1955 and Back to the Future 2, he's the guy that fixes Biff's car.
00:49:30
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. But Donalogue will show up in future episodes of this podcast. Like Max Payne. Like we have not seen the last of Donalogue. But no, I loved him in Grounded for Life. Like he's one of those guys and he was on Gotham for a number of years. The Batman show. He played Harvey Bullock on that show. I didn't either. But i' like I saw a few episodes and I thought he was pretty good. Like he's in a couple episodes of What We Do in the Shadows also playing himself apparently.
00:49:58
Speaker
um And he was also in past episode of this podcast. ah Resident Evil colon. Welcome to Raccoon City. Hey, I like that one. You did like that one. You and Brett both.
00:50:09
Speaker
Yeah. So there you go. Something to be said for accuracy. If you say That movie's got it. Well, I mean, if I wish you knew, I, you know, one of these days i i you know, blame my parents for not getting any video games. No, it's, so it's only work. It only works if you do is the thing.
00:50:31
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's why it didn't work for me, man. Yeah, no, I know. And that's, that's sad. That's upsetting. I'm sorry. You feel that way. I forget. No, I mean, i it's fine. I'm not mad at you.
00:50:43
Speaker
It's just ah the thing is, like I said during that episode, probably it's it's not a good movie.
00:50:54
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Right. But the writing in the the games is not good either. So if you're a fan of the games, it's perfect. If you don't know anything about the games, it sucks ass.
00:51:07
Speaker
So you're not going to have a good time.
00:51:10
Speaker
ah But yeah, so I don't know. man I don't really have much more to say about this movie. Like I didn't it I didn't grab me. um You know, there's a fun scene where ah yeah a topless woman gets chased through a very sparsely populated Christmas tree farm and then a wood chipper.
00:51:26
Speaker
i was That was quite and quite insane. really appreciated a lot of the practical effects. The splitting the head was good. Also, the the shot in the head of the the Coke dealer Santa was way gorier than it needed to be in the best possible way. That looked fantastic. was going to say,
00:51:45
Speaker
In a lot of ways, this movie does fit into that 2000s era millennial nasty to use the term coined by our good friend Ariel Power Schaub. Like it really does kind of fit into that millennial nasty framework while still understanding that it's a little past that the prime of that, but still playing directly into that as well for the people that enjoy that.
00:52:06
Speaker
Well, that that's what's so just kind of utterly boring about this movie is there's some really cool things in it. Like you can tell some people worked really hard on this movie. Like half the people that worked on this movie in every department, in every capacity, buy worked really hard. And the other half were not. And it fucking shows. It is just the most mediocre movie I've ever seen. It's not bad.
00:52:33
Speaker
But it is in no way good. Yeah, it's not good. it's um I'll tell you, if this were if this were a TV movie, like an ABC movie of the week, like I would watch it. and I'd be like, yeah, that's fine.
00:52:48
Speaker
like I don't feel like I wasted my time. But the fact that this would release into theaters? Nah. Nah, na dude. nothing Well, it got a limited theatrical release, and this is as good a time as any to segue into the box office. It got a limited theatrical release and then was released on ah DVD and Blu-ray less than a week later.
00:53:09
Speaker
ah So it it got a limited theatrical release on it opened in. let me check here. Eleven theaters. So it was the original like Netflix. Like it's going to be on streaming almost day one. but We're going to put in theaters for like a day.
00:53:24
Speaker
It gets a qualifying release and then it's going direct to video. Yeah, essentially. And then it was released on on video on like the 4th of December, December 4th. So like it really did not spend any time. In fact, it opens again on November 2012.
00:53:43
Speaker
Uh, to, let me just, it opens that number. let me just check my notes here. 66. What do you say? What even is that? said Is that a number you could be at?
00:53:54
Speaker
I don't feel like it is. Apparently, apparently on this list, you can, this list goes all the way up to a hundred though. Um, but yeah, it opens at 66, um, opens right between, Starlet,
00:54:07
Speaker
which is in its fourth week of release and space station, which is an IMAX release on two screens. Yeah. So there you go. It, ah it earns $9,780 in its opening weekend.
00:54:25
Speaker
On its way to a domestic box office of $14.6 million dollars with an international box office of about $100,000, it gets a worldwide box office of $114.6 thousand. dollars That is off of a Oh, I don't have any budget numbers. So no reported budget in sight, as it were. So this is not a...
00:54:52
Speaker
um This is not a movie that is is going to do much beyond this initial opening. Yeah, I can't imagine. I think it's a direct-to-DVD. They're counting on those sales. They're counting on those home video sales for sure. Anchor Bay is the distributor. It is It's Anchor Bay. It's fucking Anchor Bay. So yeah, it is Anchor Bay. For those who don't know, as someone who ah came up during the anchor bay years anchor bay was the company that was putting out night of living dead that was putting out evil dead that was putting out all of the old cult classic movies um i had our anchor bay darkness fuck yeah dude all that shit yeah i think like it was mainly made for home video for sure they were trying to make their money on that what's the budget on this
00:55:42
Speaker
I can't find those numbers. it's not I'm on IMDB right now, and the budget's not on there? Yeah, it's not on the no it's not on the numbers. like I can't find a budgetary. oh wait Oh, wait. This is estimated. $5 million dollars estimated.
00:56:00
Speaker
that's That's easy money. That's easy money for the cast that's in it, the studio that's behind it. It's direct-to-video, essentially. Anger Bay is the direct-to-video company.
00:56:13
Speaker
That's what they need. Yeah, I feel like they kind of they knew exactly what they were doing here. They did what they needed to do. I can't imagine they lost money on this. Sure.
00:56:25
Speaker
They just didn't make it in the in the theatrical release for sure. Didn't come close to making it in the theatrical. No, no. I think that was just, you know, for the diehard fans. Really, they probably popped that out. There was 2012. Like you could find that shit on the Internet where there'd be a showing or something. I'm sure I'm sure that's what it was.
00:56:43
Speaker
Right. So scrolling from 66 all the way back up to the number one spot in its third weekend, the Twilight Saga colon Breaking Dawn comma part two is retaining its number one spot.
00:56:57
Speaker
um You know, i have no interest in them Twilight movies, but I'll tell you what it did. It what it did. it It was a good platform for a lot of fantastic actors.
00:57:12
Speaker
That's true. Kristen Stewart I don't know her that Kristen Stewart or Robert Pattinson would have the kind following they have today without that both of those both ah both of those motherfuckers are some of the best in the biz if you ask me especially in in like indie films agreed and then you got like ah so often people dismiss them because they're oh those guys from Twilight like fuck you they're great Exactly. No, that's how they got their platform, and I am here for it. Like, I don't give a fuck about No Twilight, but I'm glad it exists.
00:57:44
Speaker
Mm-hmm. it brought us so many, so many talented people. I mean, you get Anna Kendrick comes out of those. Dakota Fanning has a really good showcase in those. Michael Sheen. Like, you get some solid actors coming out of that franchise, for sure.
00:57:59
Speaker
yeah yep, yep, yep. At number two is my favorite James Bond film, skyfall ah which is holding steady at number two for its fourth week um in theaters at number three up from number four the week before past episode of this podcast rise of the guardians coming up in its second movie. Is that the Zack Snyder animated owl movie?
00:58:25
Speaker
No, you're thinking... wait. No. Rise of the Guardians is the one ah with ah Chris Pine as Jack Frost. Do you remember... Oh, my God. That one's even fucking better.
00:58:39
Speaker
I love that movie. Did you know, like the podcast did a whole month on like owl movies and guardians or whatever. There was some kind of weird theme that went through all those movies. We did three guardians. So we did the, the guardians, the Russian, the weird Russian guardians movie. We did a rise of the guardians and then the legend of the guardians, which is the Zack Snyder one.
00:59:04
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So I don't know how or why, but our our mutual friend that I used used to have romantic ties to that is also in films with us.
00:59:15
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um I just don't want to have to go up and bleep it. That's that's the whole deal. I understand. I'm trying to do an easy edit on this. She's great, though. I love her. She's awesome. For some reason, when when we were ah together, we watched all of those movies.
00:59:32
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And not like good all of the Guardians movies. all those All those weird unrelated Guardians movies that we just mentioned. Yes. And my favorite was the one with all of like the holiday mascots coming together. It's like the holiday mascot Avengers, basically. It is. it's It is essentially that. And you can absolutely see why they would try to build a franchise off of that. Because it's right fucking there.
00:59:59
Speaker
It's right there, and you don't have to have separate movies. That's the thing. A lot of these studios that are trying to do cinematic universes, like they're not setting it up properly, but there's no setup for this because we all know who Santa Claus is. We know who the Easter Bunny is. We already know who these motherfuckers are.
01:00:19
Speaker
so like just Let's just jump in. Give me a whole franchise of that, and I'll be there every time. I will pay money to see it every fucking time. we We did. oh God, this is how we did it. i remember now we did. ah We did ah Legend of the Guardians, the Owls of G'Hool to start out the month of December. And then we did Guardians, which was the Russian Avengers type film. And then our Christmas episode was Rise of the Guardians because Santa Claus.
01:00:48
Speaker
Because Sandy Claws. And then we finished out the year, because that was 2022, so we finished out the year, our worst of the year, with Morbius. It's Morbin time, as it were. Now, Stephen, I don't know if you remember or not, but was there a leprechaun in that movie?
01:01:05
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I don't think there was, actually. Oh. Well, then I wasted my flashlight on that gag, and no one will even see it. No, no one will. ah So let me let me walk through the cast of that movie.
01:01:20
Speaker
Absolutely. There is Hugh Jackman as the Easter Bunny. Let me timestamp that to cut that out because that was almost too much. You were saying something about Hugh Jackman?
01:01:31
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Hugh Jackman was the Easter Bunny. um Alec Baldwin was Santa Claus. Isla Fisher was the Tooth Fairy. Chris Pine was Jack Frost. And then there was no actor for the Sandman. The Sandman was just...
01:01:47
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ah Yeah, like just a talk. well Yeah, he was just a guy. Yeah. And then um Jude Law plays the villain pitch um and there. But there is no leprechaun. my My guess is they were probably saving the leprechaun for the sequel.
01:02:03
Speaker
Yeah. And it would have been Warwick Davis, probably. If if there's any justice in this world. I'm the leprechaun. Oh, I put my flashlight away. Damn it.
01:02:15
Speaker
I have one on my phone. that Of course, you're you're in a much darker room than I am. Me, it would just look like my face is completely washed out. Yeah, know. I did it. That's why... Yeah, but you're going to cut it out, so it doesn't matter.
01:02:28
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Yeah, cut that part out, too. What are we at now? Oh, 658. Got it. Yeah, we're we're definitely definitely over an hour on this one. This is the only time that I've i've done two timestamps in the same minute.
01:02:43
Speaker
Stephen. Never has that happened before. And it's all on your boy. In fourth place, it's Lincoln, the ah the Daniel Day-Lewis-Steven Spielberg film, Lincoln. That's a great movie. Love it. I'm sure it's great. I don't care, but I'm sure it's fantastic. it's wonderful it's it's one of the it's so daniel day lewis in um gangs of new york as bill the butcher throws like a knife at a photo of abraham lincoln and then in lincoln daniel day lewis as abraham lincoln condemns the actions of tammany hall which bill the butcher is related to so it's this kind of weird daniel day lewis condemning daniel day lewis thing it's circular i Also, so to be to be of the moment, Stephen, to make sure that we stand clear on an issue that is very divisive a month amongst everyone these days, we stand behind Paul Dano.
01:03:35
Speaker
Absolutely, we fucking do. yeah Absolutely. we This is a pro Paul Dano podcast and always will be. if theresco If there's one person in that feud that I'm willing to like part with, it's Quentin Tarantino. As much as I enjoy his films. For sure.
01:03:49
Speaker
I would rather have the body of work of Paul Dano than Quentin Tarantino. I keep Jackie Brown, you keep the rest and give me Paul Dano. Perfect deal. Somehow digitally insert Paul Dano into Jackie Brown.
01:04:01
Speaker
Boom, bam. Nailed it. I don't know how you can watch. I don't know how you can watch. There will be blood and call Paul Vane a weak sauce. I don't know how you fucking do it.
01:04:13
Speaker
He's so good. I get what he's saying about how like movies cannot work. Like like some movies don't work in that way, but they were there will be blood is not one of them. Like what movie did he watch? Like, are we watching the same fucking movie?
01:04:31
Speaker
Like, Dano is not Daniel Day-Lewis, but he's... He's not supposed be. No, he is... He's doing what he's supposed to do. He's fantastic. Spielberg loves him.
01:04:44
Speaker
Fuck you. i You know, yeah Paul Dano is a phenomenal actor. Always has been, always will be. i've I've loved him for years, and I think he is perfectly cast... Unlike Malcolm McDowell, he is perfectly cast in There Will Be Blood. And is is ah an actor that I have always enjoyed. Anytime he shows up, I have a good time. He tends to find those roles for himself as well. Like Swiss Army Man...
01:05:10
Speaker
perfection paul dano uh straight the fabelman's yes please give me more love and mercy god dang it oh he's so good in love and mercy come on he he should have been oscar nominated for love what the fuck are you talking about quentin tarantino should the same paul dano he got it mixed up with somebody else he got it mixed up with mcdowell this movie that's what it was that's what it is Paul Dano and Malcolm McDowell, two actors easy to interchange. So quite easy yeah They look so much alike and they sound so much alike, too, which is the one thing. Yeah. Paul Dano constantly slipping out of his English accent.
01:05:49
Speaker
Just to the point to where it's annoying, really. right Where he's he has the worst he's has the worst accent in SAG. Is what I've heard. That's what I heard.
01:06:02
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Weak sauce, man. Weak sauce. yeah Rounding out the top five, we have Ang Lee's Life of Pi, which is in its second weekend has already grossed like 12 or has already grossed like almost $50 million. dollars ah Rounding out the top 10, we've got Wreck-It Ralph at number six.
01:06:20
Speaker
Killing them softly at number seven. ah The remake of Red Dawn with one of the ah Hemsworth brothers. Chris? Did you see that remake of Red Dawn? No. You've seen the original Red Dawn.
01:06:34
Speaker
no i haven't Well, then why am I even fucking talking you about this, Steven? Moving on. Love love you. Moving on. Yes. Hugs, but what the fuck? Love you. Ninth place, we've got the Denzel Washington film Flight, Robert Zemeckis' Flight.
01:06:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I didn't see that. Is it good? Denzel is amazing, but it's a movie that dares to do... amazing It dares to needle drop Sympathy for the Devil, not once.
01:07:01
Speaker
Not twice, oh like but like four different times. Every time John Goodman's character is introduced into the movie, you get sympathy for the devil. Every fucking time.
01:07:13
Speaker
What's the other movie with Denzel Washington and John Goodman and there's a Rolling Stones song and it's time is on my side. That is one of those weird... The Bone Collector. That's one of those like weird Denzel Washington 90s weird cop movies. Weird coincidence, though, that it's like, you know, they do the... And it's John Goodman and Denzel Washington and a Rolling Stones song.
01:07:37
Speaker
Do you think it's connected? Do you think the guys who are making... Is it? the I don't think it's the bone collector because I'm looking through the cast on that one and I'm not seeing John Goodman. Bone collector. well Michael Rooker is in the bone collector.
01:07:50
Speaker
But that's the thing is he hops bodies like the serial killer hops bodies. That's not the bone collector. What am I thinking of then? You're thinking of one of the other weird Denzel Washington 90s cop movies. It's like that. He's like paralyzed. He's at the hospital. That's not the bone collector, dude. I'm telling you. It's another one. I'm looking for it. And John Goodman's the back. Stephen, I'm so mad right now. Tucker, I wish you would just get my back.
01:08:20
Speaker
oh You know, Tucker, yeah and you're being a real bitch right now. you and That's fine. like It's Fallen. That's just who I am. Yeah. And John Goodman's there.
01:08:32
Speaker
Goodman is in Fallen. He's second to build in Fallen. That's how you know the guy has went to a different person because that person sings about how time is on my side. Yes, exactly.
01:08:44
Speaker
You know who else is in that movie? You've got Donald Sutherland, M. Beth Davids, you've got James Gandolfini, Elias Cody. Army Darkness is M. Beth Davis, Elias Cody is Crow City of Angels. is is is No, he's in the third one, actually.
01:09:00
Speaker
he's in He's in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 is Elias Cody. He's in the first and third. Yeah, but you said the third first as though like the first didn't even exist. And that's sacrilege, Stephen, because it's actually the third movie that famously does not exist.
01:09:18
Speaker
And then you've also got Robert Joy from one of my one of my favorite parts of The Shield. He is a joy. Fallen as well. So we love him. We do. And he's also in Land of the Dead. George Romero's Land of the Dead as well.
01:09:32
Speaker
So, yeah, sorry. It's not the Bone Collector. It's Fallen. But everything else still stands. Agreed. Next. And then the collection.
Movie Reviews and Critiques
01:09:41
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Speaking of bone collectors, we have – Is he collecting bones?
01:09:46
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No, he's collecting ah people. It's one of those like really nasty – were they? another one of those millennial – it's a sequel to the film The Collector. Oh, no. Yeah, I did – I saw – seen to both of them. shits There you go. There you go. And again, favorites of our friend Ariel Powershaw. Here's the weird thing about those movies is neither of them are good, but somehow, even though they're not good, they successfully like change the tone between movies.
01:10:17
Speaker
like they're yeah Like I said, they're not good, but like the first one has its own thing and the second one has its own thing and you're not mad at them for being two separate things. and I don't know. i don't even understand it um But it works in a way that only bad movies can, Stephen. There you go.
01:10:37
Speaker
Yeah. And then I just want to shout out a few below the line. You've got Silver Linings Playbook at 11. You've got Anna Karenina in 12, a movie I saw it in theaters. Really? That's like Eastern Arts, I'm sure.
01:10:51
Speaker
ah Probably. i saw because i can rob that was That was the year I was reading Tolstoy, if I recall correctly. word. That's convenient. I read War and Peace and Anna Karenina, so I definitely saw that one in theaters.
01:11:04
Speaker
And then at 13, this is the reason why I wanted to name the below-the-line shit, Argo Fuck Yourself.
01:11:12
Speaker
Yes, Ben Affleck's is Argo. yeah Yep. Future Academy Award winner, Argo Fuck Yourself. um Captain Invincible is in that movie, is he not? he he I'm pretty sure he is. You know who else is in that movie?
01:11:25
Speaker
John Goodman. John fucking Goodman. There it is. Also, John Goodman, i don't know if you know this, once pursued Mango. I have heard. and you know him and him and David Duchovny.
01:11:39
Speaker
No, David Duchovny and John Goodman. No. Can you hold a moonbeam in your hand? Can you? my part That is ah an era of SNL that my partner and I have revisited fairly recently, and we're just like, this is bad. We don't like any of this. Oh, no. No. It's...
01:12:01
Speaker
It doesn't work now, but if you were there, it was Anne Goldenera. was going to say, she she watched it at the time with her sister quite frequently and really enjoyed it at the time. But it's one of those that we've both revisited in the years since. like Within the past couple of years, we've watched it, and we're both just like...
01:12:20
Speaker
Well, and it's not even about like you were a kid then and now you're an adult. It's just like sensibilities have changed so much and comedy has changed so much. Like if you were there, you'll you'll get a little nostalgia hit out of it. But it's just not funny anymore.
01:12:34
Speaker
That was the peak then, though. Like, let me tell you, that David Duchovny episode specifically... Fantastic. You got a Mango. You got a Spartans. You got a Celebrity Jeopardy. was going to say, that's the one where he plays Jeff Goldblum, right? am Yes. um David Duchovny does ah play Jeff Goldblum. Let me see. We've got one, two, three, four, five, s ah six categories. um Musical guest, ah Puff Daddy and Jimmy Page from the Godzilla soundtrack.
01:13:09
Speaker
Come With Me, yes. um and It's cashmere. Led Zeppelin's cashmere. Puff Daddy rapping over the top it.
01:13:19
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Convicted sex criminal Puff Daddy rapping over it. Also, not convicted, but confirmed sex criminal Jimmy Page playing the riff from the famous song. Yeah.
01:13:32
Speaker
Yeah, you know, that 14-year-old he kept in his basement for a year, she's not going to let that shit rest. I'm just saying. Nor should she. And neither am i Like, Jimmy Page, your guitar playing is sloppy enough. Like, the fact that you've got to be a pest, get out of here.
01:13:50
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the fuck out here. This is where it gets really mind-boggling, Tucker, because the tomatometer score on this movie is a 62%.
01:14:00
Speaker
I mean, it is pretty mediocre, but not exactly on the positive side of mediocre. It's just not literally right down the middle. This is a 50% movie for me.
01:14:13
Speaker
It's got a tomato. Like, it's fresh. The tomato meter is fresh. is fresh it Not certified, but it's fresh. No, you know, we were talking about earlier how it had a limited theatrical release and Anchor Bay, we feel like was kind of trying to just do something that would make money on video. Like this is kind of is that thing. So they did kind of succeed. Do the anchor, do its anchor bay shit. Yeah. um The meta score is a 53 based on four critic reviews, mixed or average critic reviews from four different critics.
01:14:47
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ah Tucker, out of five stars, how many do you think it currently has on Letterboxd? You got your three-point range. Sure. Okay. Yes, the newly... ah um Yeah, we're doing the three-point range now. I'm going to say on Letterboxd, I think people are going to appreciate this because it's a it's bad in a way that a newer generation is kind of into.
01:15:15
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I'm going to say this is in between 2.9 and 3.2.
01:15:23
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and a three point two
01:15:26
Speaker
Tucker, it is a 2.6. Oh, shit. six oh shit Okay. All right. Overshot your landing a little bit there.
01:15:37
Speaker
It's been a while since I haven't nailed it, is what saying. Every once in a while, its yeah I can't hit all the time it can't rain all the time. No, you're correct. um But out of five stars, how many are you going to give two
01:15:54
Speaker
2012. There you go. i was going to get there eventually. This is a very solid two. and Like a positive two. It's like right down the middle. It's a shitty movie.
01:16:08
Speaker
But there's enough stuff about it that is good and acceptable is a very key word here. Acceptable. About it that it's just it's like like if I caught this on TV.
01:16:23
Speaker
And it was like a Sunday night at like 9 p.m. And this is playing on TBS. I'd probably watch it and be like, yeah, that wasn't a waste of time.
01:16:35
Speaker
I didn't hate that. I didn't really like it. I probably won't remember it in a few days, but like I sat here and like drank a beer and smoke some weed and just experienced this movie. It wasn't offensive and it did not impress me. It was just right there in the middle where it was just, it was fine.
01:16:56
Speaker
See, meanwhile, i meanwhile i I did not like this movie. i was not a fan. So for me, it's it's it's more like a one and a half for me. And I think that's still fair.
01:17:09
Speaker
Like, it's very close to my rating. It's kind of like like on the same side of a line, I feel like. But I'm definitely... You're leaning toward them the negative. I'm leaning more toward the negative. There's that line. And here we are.
01:17:24
Speaker
And I think that's, that's fantastic. That works for a podcast. I feel like. Right. But and I will say, I watched this two nights ago. i watched the Saturday evening, not knowing when we would record at the time. And cause recording this on a Monday night. um And i I, I'm hard pressed to remember most of it. I remember images more than I remember like performances. Like I remember Malcolm McDowell being bad and Jimmy King being good, but like, i i remember more the just kind of images and scenes from the thing that I do like full performances or or like solid moments. It's, it's kind of, it's, it's faded. Like this movie is such an, such a non-existent entity and it's not good. Like it's not, not good.
01:18:08
Speaker
by any stretch of the imagination, which I think made it even more forgettable for me. And which is fine because this kind of movie, I feel like serves a purpose and anchor Bay understood that when they made it, they're like, we're going to pump this amount of money into this movie that these people are going to buy. These people are to watch. We're going to make our money back and then some, and we're fine. And that's this kind of movie because it is perfectly average. Like you're going to forget about it in two days.
01:18:37
Speaker
but you don't, you didn't completely hate that. Like you, you're not like, oh shit. I can't believe i fucking had to watch that movie. Right. It's more like, yeah, that was forgettable, but like I watched it and whatever.
01:18:52
Speaker
Like it's very much of this era of horror remakes. And we've covered a lot of this era of horror remakes. Like we've covered particularly this past Spookython. We covered a lot of these kind of like very mediocre, forgettable, shrug kind of horror films. They're not like offensively bad, but they're in no way good.
01:19:15
Speaker
Yeah, in no way did they live up to any of the legacy of the original. Like, it's just kind But also, we're not offended at the same time. Yeah. It's like, whatever. Outside of, like, House of Wax and the Friday the 13th remake, like, all them shits were just like... Like, you're not mad at it, but you also don't really like it that much. Like... You know what I mean? Yeah.
01:19:40
Speaker
See our past episodes on House of Wax and the Friday the 13th remake. Yeah. Yeah, the Friday the 13th remake, like, hot take, maybe. I'm not sure, but best movie in the franchise.
01:19:51
Speaker
Fight me. Wow. Yeah. I thought I had a controversial take for best movie in that franchise. Yo, I appreciate your take, though, because Seven is...
01:20:03
Speaker
That movie slaps. It a high point. yeah it is ah It is exactly what i I had wanted that entire franchise out of a Friday the 13th movie. ah And it it delivered in a way that no other movie in that franchise did for me. And you got to- No one else considers that the worst movie. like So many other people consider that the low point. And I'm just like, fuck it. This is the best. This is the best one. No, you've got a handful of shitty to okay, mediocre movies leading up to this, and it takes everything good about all those shitty to mediocre movies and puts it into one movie and cranks it up so high that only the absurd will enjoy it.
01:20:44
Speaker
And yeah, you're right, Stephen. i agree with you. Outside the remake, it is the best for sure.
Creator Support and Social Media Presence
01:20:50
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's my that's my number one with a bullet in that franchise for for sure, for sure, for sure.
01:20:55
Speaker
um But again, i mean, again, fight me. Patreon dot com slash distant French pod for five bucks a month. You can join our ah Patreon, ah get access to just tons of ah behind the scenes bonus episodes, including that episode of what are we watching that we record over a year ago.
01:21:14
Speaker
um We're going to do another one. we've We're still keeping her One of these days. Yeah. The lists are updated. It's it's ah obscenely long in a way that is obscene. It's not even sexual, really.
01:21:30
Speaker
not yeah At this point, not anymore, no. You want it to be, but it's not. You can't argue it. We've tried so hard, pun intended, to make it that way, and it just hasn't worked out. We want sexualize it, but you can't.
01:21:43
Speaker
absolutely Why a bit of what by at this point? Why i bother? you even want to? Yeah. Why would you even want to? Right. um And then ah for absolutely no money, if you can't afford the five bucks a month, which in this economy, I don't blame you.
01:21:54
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01:22:07
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Yeah. Patreon.com slash disenfranch pod. Thank you to all of our continued patrons and their continued support. You're the real MVPs. Most of which, honestly, it's probably motherfuckers who just forgot.
01:22:22
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And I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that, too. If they're okay with it, I'm okay with it. Because I'm the same. I have a couple ah Patreon accounts that, like... there's one that I haven't watched a video from them in probably over two years, but because like I support so much what they're doing, don't even give a fuck.
01:22:43
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Same with Dr. Demento. Like I haven't listened. I used to listen to Dr. Demento on and off from the time I was a teenager, you know, a little bit here and there.
01:22:55
Speaker
um But then when I subscribed to it, when it became an internet only thing, like, I don't know. I listened to it for maybe a year consistently, and I've been paying for it for like four or five years after that, and I have not listened to a one episode, and I don't give a fuck because even though i'm not listening to it, I just want to support that shit. Like, just to know it's out there in the world and I'm supporting it, whether I listen to it or not. 100%.
01:23:21
Speaker
hundred percent yeah And there're there are absolutely some – like i i'm ah i'm ah I'm a checkmate, a blah blank check Patreon subscriber, have been practically since day one. And night I listen to all that shit, like almost exactly the day it comes out, day and date almost on the on all that shit. I love it.
01:23:38
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And then there's other stuff like there's a couple of YouTubers that i that I subscribe to that I – have I watch their videos if it's a topic that interests me, but not all the time. But again, I appreciate what they're doing and it's not such a huge commitment to my budget that I can't afford to throw them, you know, the the amount of money per month that it takes. So, yeah. Yeah.
01:23:59
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that's That's kind of where I am. But yeah, patreon.com slash disenfranchepod. You can follow us on ah Blue Sky Letterboxd and YouTube at disenfranchepod. Those are the only social networks that we're active on. So if you see us active on another social network, it's not us. It's ah it's robots. It's ai It's AI.
01:24:16
Speaker
Kill it with fire. Skynet is active. Kill it with fire. Can you imagine like AI takes over and one of the things it decides to duplicate is this podcast. Yeah. No, I can't imagine that. That is the most absurd thing I can possibly think of.
01:24:31
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um That is hilarious in point of fact. Yeah. But yeah, follow us on those platforms. ah What else? ah Oh, yeah. ah Rate us. Review us. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Leave us a nice juicy five-star rating and review. We sure do appreciate it. And that helps us. It goes a long way to helping us find more listeners like yourselves. And we think you're pretty swell.
01:24:54
Speaker
So more people like you would be. Pretty great. ah But yeah, i am your host. I'm Steven Foxworth. You can find me on ah was I'm on Letterboxd and Blue Sky now and just those two. And I'll be basically getting rid of most of my other social media platforms that I haven't gotten rid of.
01:25:14
Speaker
Before the end or by the end of 2025. So there you go. I will only be extant on those platforms going forward. But yeah, you can find me there. I'm also on on TikTok, but I don't post a lot on TikTok. So don't don't don't go after me there. We don't talk about TikTok.
01:25:29
Speaker
We don't talk about TikTok. No, no, no. um We don't talk about TikTok. But you can follow me on Blue Sky and Letterboxd at Chewy Walrus. ah Don't follow Brett. He doesn't like it when you do that. Stop. Tucker, where can we find you?
01:25:49
Speaker
I'm still on Instagram and YouTube at ice. I know nine. That's I C E N I N E the number zero and the number nine.
01:26:00
Speaker
ah Tuck mugs. ah There hasn't been a lot on tuck mugs in a while, ah but I think the holiday season is going to bring maybe a few new tuck mug posts again. Tuck mugs, tuck underscore mugs on Instagram.
01:26:18
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it is It really is the safe space of the internet. No matter who you are and what your beliefs are, we're not talking about that.
01:26:30
Speaker
We don't give fuck. All we care about is mugs. Like, we'd prefer Nazis not be there, but, like, if a Nazi rolls in and like, we're doing all kinds of positive shit and that Nazi is like, oh, man, maybe I'm dumb. Only Nazis willing not to be Nazis anymore. Those are the only Nazis we accept. Maybe I shouldn't be a Nazi. I'm saying if it if it encourages someone not to be racist or a Nazi.
01:27:02
Speaker
Tucker, here's here's something I will tell you. I was visiting my my parents in Indianapolis over the Thanksgiving holiday. Hey, that's where I live. That's where you live now. Yeah. um I was visiting my my parents and my mother insisted that I go down to Greenwood, Indiana to help her clean my shit out of a storage unit that she's been keeping. And one of the boxes full of mugs.
01:27:27
Speaker
Fuck. Full of mugs. Just let that sink in. A box full of mugs. ah And i saw I saw, I caught a glimpse of one of those mugs where the wrapping had kind of fallen off of it And i I know that it is a classic White Castle mug.
01:27:45
Speaker
i i know yeah I know for a fact that it is that. Oh, fuck. Alright, Tuck Mugs. i i want to I want to say completely different things now.
01:27:58
Speaker
Tuck Mugs is about to pop off because Steven has found this cache of mugs. The treasure trove, as it will. Look, he leads with the White Castle mugs, so I know he's fucking serious.
01:28:11
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Tuck Mugs. I don't know what else is in there, but i'm we we can find out together. Tuck Mugs community. Tuck underscore Mugs. We might be reinstating a specific social media manager.
01:28:25
Speaker
yeah Because I feel like. I hear he still has access to the account. I feel like for a bit, it might be his time to shine.
01:28:36
Speaker
There we go. Based on what we've heard this evening. Right, right. Based on one a couple of sentences that have been uttered over course of this conversation. Yeah, for catch ever sure. But if you're in the know, then you understand, which is much better than saying, if you know, you know, because of course, if you know, you know.
01:28:55
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you know. so that It's kind of like it is what it is. like what'st it always yeah Isn't it always what it is? As it is want to be. stupid What a stupid fucking thing to say. Sorry for anybody who says either of those phrases, but that's that's where I am on the spectrum. like That shit bothers me. yeah Clearly.
01:29:16
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Tuck mugs. Tuck underscore mugs. It's about to pop off. Pop it off.
01:29:22
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I'm only learning about it myself, but I'm confident enough to say it's about to pop off. And that is our episode on 2012's Silent
Closing Remarks and Future Episode Planning
01:29:32
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Night. I don't know if we're going to be able to secure our guests for next week, so i don't know. we'll We'll figure something out for next week. this What's the guest for next week? ah one of your one other One of your favorite people to have on the podcast. Oh!
01:29:46
Speaker
Boy. i don't know if we're going to be able to get it, get it, get them locked down. Message that motherfucker right now. Get that, get that taken care of because I need it to happen. Well, it'll be a miracle.
01:29:58
Speaker
Make it happen. The problem is I need to know what your availability is first. Cause I'm, I, we, you have been hard to nail down lately. Yeah. And so I'm not, I can't schedule anything until I know when you're available. Look, I'm working all the time. Plus like now that I'm back in Indy, like where my roots are and shit, even though I've been gone for 25 years, like my roots are here. So like my social life is popping off too.
01:30:23
Speaker
Tucker getting dates y'all. No. Absolutely not. Tucker and Pipe are all around Naptown. the The letter J does not engage in romantic ah activities, let alone relationships. So if you're about that life, don't even at me.
01:30:39
Speaker
Okay. At him super hard. Don't. Zero ats. is So many ats. All the fucking ats.
01:30:51
Speaker
No, dude. Anywho, I guess that's our episode, Steven. That's it. That's it. That's all we got. um So for my co-host Tucker, the very absent but but always present in our hearts, Brett Wright. Until next time, ah ho ho, ho. Now I have a machine gun.
01:31:12
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It's a flamethrower in this one. And a flamethrower. It's mainly the flamethrower. The woodchipper's there. I mean, it's he's fucking got the woodchipper. Like they led up to it so hard, but then, and like it was cool. Fargo has lot to answer It does. They really should have had him pushing the foot in.
01:31:32
Speaker
Yes. You might as well. The movie's so mediocre. You might as well homage something so hard that it elevates the movie. It's going. It's trying to do the millennial nasty thing, but it's you not nasty enough.
01:31:45
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like It gets nasty, but it's not as nasty as some of that other shit. Exactly. and my thing like They do split a head in half, but that's the only one that's like really extreme. That's really it, yeah. cream Like it's trying to be that without like leaning to like, again, it knows it's past that era. And so it's like dabbling in it, but it's not really committing to it. And again, the collection came out this year. That's a movie that commits to the nastiness.
01:32:10
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And then they do the, Oh God, those collectors again. Anyway. right. Bye y'all. Bye. Bye.