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255 - Freaked (1993)
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Happy Thanksgiving! This year, we’re thankful for all of you AND early-’90s ephemera! To celebrate the release of this cult classic film on 4K, we’re talking about Keanu Reeves’s ‘90s filmography, that time Tucker met director/star Alex Winter, movies that share this movie’s vibe (for good or ill), and Tucker’s bathroom habits (we’re very, very sorry).
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Transcript
Intro: Gaslighting with Audio Clips
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um I've not tried the new ones, but... Fucking stupid. it I'm pretty sure that's how i feel about them. yeah That's a good one. ah this I think this one's going to be my new favorite, though. I was wrong. Hey!
00:00:12
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ah You can use that to, like, gaslight the audience, I guess. like Make it sound like I'm saying I was wrong, even if I'm not.
00:00:23
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I don't know. Tug, you have any feelings? I was wrong. I know. and We all know.
00:00:31
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Oh, there's that. And then, of course, one that we haven't used yet, but it's it's here in case we need it Can you smell my breath?
00:00:42
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That's a good one. So, you know, yeah it's magic is what it is. But magic it's oh oh it's magic, you know.
Podcast Introduction and Theme
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OK, so we're already recording.
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um Oh yeah, here we go.
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We know who we are. We can say to the world, hey, this is us. We're the disenfranchised podcast and we like us. Yes, that's right. We're the podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy, decked out in my milkman regalia and joining me as always, I'll damn it Also decked out in Milkman regalia. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker.
00:01:56
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Thank you for not using my full name this time.
Humorous Deodorant Story
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you guys. Again, I cannot apologize enough for that thing that happened last week, apparently. my bad.
00:02:07
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Hey, you guys. I just, I smelled something intriguingly sexy just a moment ago. and I sniffed my pits and it was me. um I just got this new deodorant called Sexy Intrigue.
00:02:19
Speaker
I always get ladies deodorants because i i usually like the way ladies smell more than guys. Sometimes guys smell good, but usually it's the ladies. So I get the ladies deodorant. And I got to say, I bought this kind of as a joke, but it really is intriguingly sexy.
00:02:36
Speaker
So what you're saying is you youre you're pretty glad that you could keep the beard? Is that what I'm hearing? kind It's kind of like ah cocoa butter and like a slight like generic perfume smell to it. Like those two things together. It's very, it's not very strong, but it's very nice.
00:02:58
Speaker
Oh yeah, that's good. That's real good. That's good. I wish you guys could smell it. I wish you guys could smell it. What an anecdote that was, eh, Stephen? Oh, boy. Brett, I have a feeling that I already know how you feel about it, but let me let me take a wild guess here. I have a feeling you think
Soundboard and Humor
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it's... Fucking stupid.
00:03:18
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Oh! Got him. um and And, Tucker, I know how you feel that... yeah You thought that was going to be a good anecdote, but I know, ultimately... i was wrong.
00:03:29
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yeah Well, well... ah Yep, just me playing on the soundboard. That's all. But hey yeah you heard him and you can't see him, but he he's he is also he is also dressed like a milkman. Damn it, we have to coordinate a little better next time. ah It is our good friend. ah he he is He has returned from the wilderness. It turns out he was ah he's he's been at this freak show for the longest time and we had no idea until just now, but he's back.
00:03:57
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Welcome back to the program, Mr. Brett Wright. Hey, Brett. Hello, Steven. There it is. God, it's like a bomb for my soul. yeah Too many Milkmen.
00:04:09
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Look, look, two Milkmen is theoretically possible. Three is just ridiculous. but And I'm not going to ask why your guys' microphones are dressed up like Milkmen. We're just going to move right past it. Yeah. um But we are here. it's it this has been a a fun This month has been a fun game of like a shell game of trying to schedule this damn podcast.
00:04:34
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Honestly, yeah um this was one we were supposed to cover a couple weeks ago. And then we had a we were unable to get in touch with a guest. I didn't want to cover that film without that particular guest. So we
Discussion of 'Freaked' Film
00:04:47
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doubled back to this one. And here we are all in one place to talk about this. The 1993 film directed by Tom Stern and Alex Winter. Yes, that Alex Winter. a little movie called Freaked starring Alex Winter and also Michael Stoyanov, Megan Ward, Randy Quaid, William Sadler, Alex Zuckerman, Keanu Reeves. Yes, that Keanu Reeves. Mr. T. Yes, that Mr. T. Brooke Shields. Yes, that Brooke Shields. Bobcat Goldthwait.
00:05:18
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yeah Yes, that Bobcat Goldthwait. Derek McGrath, Jeff Kahn, John Hawks. Yes, that John Hawks. Lee Ehrenberg. Who else we got? We got Ray Baker. We got Tom Stern. we got a director of Wicked for Good. John M. Chu is in this movie. What what a cast.
00:05:40
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What a picture. Oh, and I didn't even mention Morgan Fairchild. Fuck. There it it What a cast. What a picture. Dare I say it. Did you mention Keanu Reeves and I missed it?
00:05:51
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Yeah, I said yes, that Keanu Reeves. Oh, okay. All right. It was the first of that tirade of yes, that. Like I did like five in a row there. It's always nice to see William Sadler in anything, I think. I was introduced to him in Shawshank Redemption. He's really good. Yeah, he's a phenomenal actor.
00:06:09
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And I like him in lots of stuff. I really like him as Death and the Bill and Ted movies as well. Which is undoubtedly why he's here. um Like this feels like Alex Winter calling in a lot of favors to get this movie made.
00:06:22
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And look, I know that people don't necessarily like Die Hard 2. I think it's a little underappreciated. But i I like him as the bad guy in that movie. too He is the villain in Die Hard 2. That's right. And he's naked. He is like The first time you see him, he he just is just his whole butt is just right there.
00:06:41
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The focus of the the frame is his beautifully toned naked buttocks. Sadler ass. Yep. Just on display for the world to see. um Also in this movie, ah Larry Budd Melman himself, Calvert DeForest, hero also. like You love that guy. He's a character, all right.
00:07:03
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um But yeah, there it is. Just what a what a stacked cast in this very deeply, deeply bizarre movie. um Go ahead, Tucker, please. I never realized that John Hawks was the cowboy because, you know, he's under a lot of makeup. Correct.
00:07:22
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But... It's weird. And also I wouldn't know from his voice in this either. Yeah, I saw him, you know, he's famously in the opening scene to from Dusk Till Dawn,
00:07:36
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um which is why I always bring up when you talk about Benny's in Chicago, I always call it Benny's World of Blood because ah George Clooney says he's going to turn Benny's World of Liquor into Benny's World of Blood.
00:07:49
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Correct. And ah John Hawks is the guy behind the counter. And it's weird because I saw him in that and then I didn't see him in anything for years. But it seems like in the last five years or so, I see him in everything.
00:08:06
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He's prolific. Yeah. I mean, i I think the first thing I noticed John Hawks in was his Academy Award nominated turn as ah in in Winter's Bone, which he's amazing in.
00:08:20
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This joke has been done three times. um
00:08:25
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Anne Hathaway of giving me a bone. Winter's bone. um Really, we're just isolating like half of our audience right now and our other co-host, I'm sure. Boy.
00:08:36
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Correct. It's a Saturday Night Live. ah Wayne and Garth are um going through the Oscar nominees and they keep like whispering Winter's bone.
00:08:50
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um It was for the 40th. It was the one they did on the 40th. Oh, okay. yeah But it was it was either the 40th or when Carvey came back to host one of the two.
Keanu Reeves in the Early 90s
00:08:59
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Or maybe it was Myers. I'm not sure. I feel like they were very close together and I don't know which one it was.
00:09:04
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Yeah, I don't either. um But at at any rate, um like I first knew him from Winter's Bone, but after Winter's Bone, I just started seeing him in everything. Like I just I couldn't. And it that's pretty consistently lasted. Like John Hawks is just.
00:09:20
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Yep. Like he's all over. dead That was the first thing I saw him in after from Dust Hill. Don't I watch Deadwood? And I'm like, oh, hey, there's there's that guy. I wonder what he's been doing. And then he was in that ah most recent season of True Detective. He's really good in that because.
00:09:34
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Normally he he plays, ah from what I've seen, he is usually more on the good side of morality and things that he's in. But in the true detective season, he's kind of an ass.
00:09:48
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Right. It was cool to see him be an ass. He's good at being an ass as well. He's a good actor. Let's just say it. He's a good actor. Yeah, he's good at it. He's very good. um So, Tucker, this was a movie that you suggested. This is essentially so a straight up by another name, really. Like, you you figuring out a way to put a movie that would normally be relegated to straight up.
00:10:13
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as just a regular main feed episode, what is your history with this film? Why did you, why were you so adamant that we cover, uh, 1993 is freaked? Well, I've always been a huge fan of Alex winter going back to Bill and Ted and, you know, lost boys and stuff like that.
00:10:32
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o And I've even seen seen some of the documentaries that he's done. I think he's a really good filmmaker as well. Um, But I remember seeing this on HBO when I was a kid.
00:10:44
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And i didn't know what it was, but I thought it was really, really cool. And then when I got a little older and started getting into film and stuff, um i I saw it proper. I was able to get a VHS of it, which I don't have anymore. I do have a DVD of it, and I have the 4K that I showed you guys before we started the recording. But it's just always kind of been... Excuse me.
00:11:11
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It's always sort of been in in the second string of my favorite movies to have on physical media. not the Not the first string, not not the elites, but kind of the the other guys. Freak doesn't want the other guys. This is no buckaroo bonzai, let's get it straight. No, no. let's it's It's kind of in it's in the the junior varsity of the movies, you know?
00:11:36
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ah Brett, you also are were familiar with this movie um before this recording. ah what What is your history with this film? what ah where Where do you stand on Freaked? Very similar to Tucker, honestly, except I've never owned it on physical media.
00:11:52
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um Do you want my DVD? Sure. Okay, you can have it. Wonderful. Yes. Yeah, no, I mean, I liked Alex Winter, Lost Boys, Bill and Ted, then, you know, you stumble across this movie on HBO,
00:12:07
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And around the time I stumbled upon it, they were playing this shit on rotation because that's what HBO did back in the day, right? Like they had like they would show the same block of movies over and over and over again. Like, every yeah.
00:12:19
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I mean, they were the home box office. It was basically like the the the stop for movies before they hit network TV. Well, it was kind of like it was kind of like a blockbuster where like you had a stable of of old movies that you played all the time, but then also you had the wall of new releases. like They kind of had their standards, and but then like a new release would come out and that would get into the rotation for a while.
00:12:41
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but yeah, Freaked was there for a while. Every Saturday a while was the premiere of the new films, if I recall. Every Saturday.
00:12:50
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well Yeah, I would watch well bob every every time I'd stumble across it channel surfing. I would stop and watch it. So what what was what was for many people like a Shawshank Redemption kind of movie where, oh, this is on. We're watching it ah for you it was freaked.
00:13:08
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Yeah, I mean, I also did that with Shawshank Redemption because that's what everybody does. I mean, it's 48 hours, but yeah. fora Yeah, pretty much. I don't know why. i can't really tell you.
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um is I just ah thought it was funny and weird. And you look back and it's it feels like it's it's very much the 90s distilled into a film.
00:13:33
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Yes, very much so. it is It is certainly an aesthetic. um They kind of took you know the picture of the green guy with the bulging eyes
'Freaked' Production Challenges
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and he's in the hot rod shifting the gears.
00:13:47
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like It's like that picture of the movie. yes think is so you're thinking of Yes. It's that aesthetic, the movie. yeah is And it's somebody you like who also loved Liquid Television on MTV. Oh, yeah. A lot of really fucking weird animation like that. I think that's what drew me to it as well. Just...
00:14:05
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the weird special effects that mirrored that sort of animation. Well, didn't Alex winter have something to do with liquid TV at some point? Uh, the idiot box was the show that, Oh, that's the one. Yeah. Which is the, which was kind of the Genesis of this film in a lot of ways. Yeah. Uh, was the, it was a sketch show. I think it was on MTV called the idiot box, uh, that he did with, and that was how, uh, he and Tom Stern worked on that. And then I think they pulled in, um Another friend of theirs, Tom, Tim Burns from that show, and he also joined them in writing the the script for this as well.
00:14:46
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One of the one of the many rewrites this movie went through. Nice. Yeah, dude. Steven, what's your history with this film? yeah I watched this movie a couple of weeks ago when we were going to cover it the first time. And that is my first and only exposure to Freaks. I did not know this was a movie until Tucker, I think, sent me the trailer. i want to say like two years ago. i remember watching it In my apartment in Evanston on the north side of Chicago, north north of Chicago, north suburbs of Chicago, when I first moved up to Illinois, and i remember...
00:15:26
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watching the trailer and I remember Tucker in particular had been talking about it for some reason. And so I checked it out. was like, this is fucking weird. um And I didn't really think about it after that until Tucker's like, Hey, we should cover freaks. And was like, Oh, okay. I'll put it on the schedule. And then I didn't think about it again until, Oh, I guess freaked is coming up in the schedule. I should probably watch that. And then I watched it and I honestly haven't thought about it a lot in a couple of weeks since. So we're going to have a fun time. That's too bad. That is too bad. because it's It's not like it's not a movie that doesn't leave an impression on you because it absolutely does. It is. oh you're You're absolutely correct. But like, i don't know. this
00:16:06
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This is a movie as I was watching. and I'm just going to show. I'm go put my cards on the table here. As I was watching this movie, I completely understood. why people, why this movie really resonates with, with people our age, like why they get this.
00:16:22
Speaker
But by the same token, I don't think I am of the right age now to really like, this is a, this is what, this is for me, what Howard the duck is for Tucker. Like if I'd seen this when I was younger, I'd probably love this movie. Oh, and what has records is for me.
00:16:38
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Valid. Very valid. Yeah. um But I'm sitting there, I'm watching it and I'm going like, I get it. Like I get why this is funny and I get what, and there, there's stuff in this movie that works and the stuff that works, works really, really well.
00:16:54
Speaker
The rest of it doesn't. And, and there's so many moments in this movie where I'm just, it it feels like ah let's throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. Like this movie leaves nothing.
00:17:05
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And i'm I'm wondering, like, there's so many disparate voices. There's so much going on. i have to wonder who the hell this movie is for. And I and i don't know the answer. i can i just know it's not for me. I know that.
00:17:19
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this This movie wasn't made for me, but it was made for somebody. And those people, I know, love this movie. This movie has very big cult following. It was made for kids like Tucker and me.
00:17:29
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Like teenagers like Tucker and me. I was going to say, that really tracks. and you don't and i did having i was a kid You get a movie like this every couple years. It's kind of outsider cinema.
00:17:43
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um And I think... Another film that this reminds me of, not in the plot or the tone or anything, just in the way it presents itself, though, is Cecil B. Demented, which I am hoping we're covering soon. um And I wish they'd put out a 4K of that. There's a really cool Blu-ray release, but like I don't want to get the Blu-ray, and then next thing I know, there's a 4K. There's a 4K. That's how I feel about Pecker.
00:18:11
Speaker
Speaking of John Waters, I've never actually seen Pecker. got that... Sounded like a fun joke. It's fine. It's fine. it's It's a pretty okay John Waters movie. um But I say it's it's kind of got that same kind of spirit as Cecil B. Demented to where it knows it's not for everybody.
Unique Appeal of 'Freaked'
00:18:27
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So instead of trying to be accessible, it it just goes really hard on the shit that it wants to do. Like it just doubles down. It's like we know who this is for. So we're going to really, really make it for those people.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yes. in And by the same token, it's also very similar to something like a pair of 1999 films. Tucker, get the timestamp right already. You know, a movie, two movies that we've actually covered on this podcast before, Mystery Men and...
00:18:55
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Like, it's very much had those kind of vibes to me in that, like, this is some kind of weird outsider art. Like, Mystery Man at least has kind of the the mainstream thing going for it. Like, you get a lot of people kind of as they're coming up. So, like, your Ben Stiller's, your Janine Garofalo's, your William H. Macy's, Jeffrey Rush, etc. Versus something like ****, which is...
00:19:18
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for like five, but like Jim Varney is the most recognizable person in that movie. um But like both of those are just kind of these kind of weird pieces of outsider art. And I was getting big vibes like both. like And those movies are not for everybody either. Like those movies are made for a very specific like group of people.
00:19:38
Speaker
um They wanted Mystery Men to be bigger, but that movie is so esoteric and weird. There's no way that movie could be for everybody. um But like this felt very much like that to me as I was watching this movie. I was getting big Mystery Men vibes, big vibes like I was getting all of that.
00:19:54
Speaker
It definitely exists in that in that same space. And that's one of the things I appreciate about it. I agree with you, Stephen, that there's things that work in this movie things that don't.
00:20:05
Speaker
And there are jokes that land and jokes that don't. And it's about 50-50. But I think when I'm in the mood to watch this, it doesn't matter. I just appreciate it.
00:20:16
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just I'm just in awe that it exists. And I'm impressed that it got made and that I'm allowed to watch it in public. That this exists is kind of a miracle. I'm not going to lie.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah. with I mean, with the cast and... The effects are amazing. Amazing. Coming off um Return to Oz.
00:20:40
Speaker
Very incredible practical effects. Yes, I agree. another Another film that is just full of fantastic practical effects. ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:51
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Very, very into it. I love all the effects in this film. I really love the the um the Rastafarian eyeballs with Uzis. eye eye. They're both like the cutest and most revolting things I've ever seen in my life.
00:21:08
Speaker
Like they just, they repel me and ah not attract me. i don't say they attract me. I'm not attracted to them, but they repel me and I find them aesthetically po pleasing at the same time. Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of that in this movie where you're just like, the imagery itself is grotesque, but it's so well done that you have to admire it.
00:21:29
Speaker
Yeah. Yep. And the the big monsters at the end are just like the most disgusting things I've ever seen. But boy, are they a sight to behold. i tell you what, just fantastic.
00:21:40
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Fantastic. Like just not only are the effects really good in this, but the designs are just wildly creative. And you can only be that creative when no one is saying, no, don't do that. No, don't do this. you'd let You let them just go wild.
00:21:57
Speaker
And this is what you get. And I think it's i think it's great. I'm a big fan. Unbridled imagination, for sure. A stream of consciousness had to been happening for the script. I'm going start writing and whatever I write sticks. We're not rewrites. We're not taking anything I mean, there were obviously rewrites in this movie. like but But this also does not feel like a movie with a lot of studio meddling either, which is...
Studio Politics Impact on 'Freaked'
00:22:23
Speaker
When we get into like the history of this thing is is kind of also fairly miraculous because there was a a ah studio head shift at the studio as they were making this movie. And the new studio head did not like this movie, did not like the fact that they were spending $12 million dollars to make this movie. Fair, but...
00:22:42
Speaker
So, again, who is this movie for? Not for the new head of the studio. That's for damn sure. But, again, that's kind of one of those things that we talk about a lot on this podcast. Like, there's a lot of times there will be ah ah a leadership change within a studio and all of a sudden this movie that they had really big plans for, all of a sudden they're just going to bury it. Like – third weekend or something like we're just not going to engage with this at all after this point so which is something that absolutely happened with this movie and something that alex winter i think kind of still amends to this day so
Bobcat Goldthwait in 'Freaked'
00:23:17
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yes indeed um i met when you were talking about the cast i i was kind of sad that you didn't mention it mention david almost bowie
00:23:26
Speaker
um co-star of UHF. He plays Bob in UHF. He does have a small role in this. He does. Yes, you're right. He does. Also, another one I didn't mention, ah Deep Roy is in this movie very briefly at the beginning of the film. Very briefly.
00:23:41
Speaker
Very briefly, but i i i do I do love Deep Roy. He's great. um like just Again, there's just so much going on in this movie. So many like visual gags, so many weird... i mean...
00:23:54
Speaker
Like you get Brooke Shields kind of in this movie just as as kind of a weird piece of stunt casting. um At one point they mentioned the movie Return to Blue Lagoon and she says, oh, I hate that movie. It's on the plane there. That's the right yeah like movie.
00:24:11
Speaker
Yeah. Which, of course, is a joke on the fact that she was in the original Blue Lagoon, but was not involved in any way in the sequel. Are they still legally allowed to show that movie? Haven't we as a society decided that we should not watch that?
00:24:26
Speaker
We shouldn't really watch either one. Let's let's be very clear.
Humor and Visual Gags in 'Freaked'
00:24:29
Speaker
neither Neither film should be seen. Yeah. yeah Yeah. We're going to, yeah. But yeah if you don't know why, um just, i don't know, Wikipedia that shit. It's not good. Will do. No.
00:24:44
Speaker
No. It's like, Roger that. Let's just say Brooke Shields was very young when she made that movie. naked. And yes. one One might say too young and naked. And too naked. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. As it were.
00:24:59
Speaker
ah But bringing it back ever so briefly to David, almost Bowie. I really like that. Everything that I've seen him in, like i so I saw he's a main character in UHF, but everything else I see him in, it's just like a one and done. He always has a line.
00:25:15
Speaker
Like, I think the first thing I saw him in after UHF was cable guy. He's the paramedic in the helicopter at the end of cable guy where, where Jim Carrey's like, are you really my buddy? yeah oh Sure.
00:25:29
Speaker
It's your boy, David Omos Bowie. That's Bobo the Clown. That's Bobo the Clown. He will fall down, go boom. Another actor like that is Rick DeComen, an actor I really love. The only lead role he's got is in Joe Dante's The Burbs, but he's like, he shows up in Gremlins 2. He shows up in Hunt for Red October. Like, he's just kind of one of those guys who just everything else he does is is just kind of this small role, but he's always so good. Or i was R.I.P. Rick DeComen, but yes.
00:25:56
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Well, we love those bit players. We do. We love those. We love the that guys, all the that guys. We love them. We truly, truly love. them But yes, um ah Dave, Dave, Bo or Bowie. um Almost Bowie.
00:26:11
Speaker
Almost Bowie. Like he's, he's just, he's, he's great. We love him. We love to see him. And yeah, I was hoping for a bigger role from him in this movie, but no, he's just one of the, one of the businessmen there at the end with, ah with there, he has a line and there you go. Yeah.
00:26:26
Speaker
Have fun. we're just We're just here. um So, I mean, you got Don Stark from that 70s show here as well. Like, just, again, just ah i a solid cast of, like, that true that guy players. It's really, really wonderful, honestly. um And then, of course, the the big the big get for this movie is...
00:26:51
Speaker
Keanu Reeves, who is at the time in 93, like mid-ascension. He did Speed, wasn't it? Didn't he do Speed that same year? Let's talk the Keanu arc. feel like that's what he was filming when they were filming this, which is why Johnny Knoxville had to be a stand-in for like 90% of the movies.
00:27:13
Speaker
Right. An uncredited Johnny Knoxville. Of course, an uncredited Keanu Reeves as well. An uncredited Keanu Reeves, yes. Right.
00:27:26
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in 1991, we get Point Break. We get Bogus Journey. We get My Own Private Idaho. And we get the Paula Abdul video brush Rush Rush. with Keanu Reeves. So 91, a great year for Keanu 92. We get Francis Ford, cope Sony pictures, Francis Ford Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. We don't talk about that one.
00:27:46
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ah We're going to talk about it. We don't talk about his accent in that one. ah you Would you rather we talk about his accent in the movie he does in, ah he does after freak too much ado about nothing.
00:27:57
Speaker
oh no, I've not seen that, but i don't I love Keanu Reeves a lot, but he, he, it is definitely possible for him to be miscast. And what about the accent he does in 1988 dangerous liaisons? Do we want to talk about that accent? If we're doing talk about Dracula, we'll just talk about Dracula. That's fine. that's it Can we just talk about parenthood instead of either of those?
00:28:20
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Well, i and that's and that's, again, well before. 93 is Freaked, Much Ado About Nothing, Even Cowgirls Get the Blues and Little Buddha. So um none of those really hitting in 93, but then 94 you get Speed.
00:28:37
Speaker
And 94 you get or 95 you get Johnny Mnemonic walking the clouds. You guys do you remember the Johnny Mnemonic um VHS? It was like it was his face but the head was a window and you could see the tape and the VHS tape.
00:28:54
Speaker
It's like look it up. Look it up online. Look at the VHS case. Look at it right now. 96 you get Chain Reaction and Feeling Minnesota. ah And then 97, you get the last time I committed suicide and the devil's advocate before he we finally get the the the true thing that nails him to the map in 1999, which, of course, is the Matrix.
00:29:20
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Yeah, We also probably shouldn't talk about his accent Devil's Advocate either. it's Dude should just do not do an accent at all. i it's It's one of those things where you're like, he's a young actor and he's trying to like probably like stretch himself, but you know you take big swings and make big choices like that and they don't always hit, and...
00:29:41
Speaker
Yeah, not everyone is good at accents and not everyone should do them. And I think Keanu Reeves is one of those people. he's He's great at so many other things. Accents just not. one and i You know, and as I'm a devil's advocate enjoyer, but I just can't. oh yeah, I like that one Sometimes I can't watch it when he because of his accent.
00:29:58
Speaker
Right. It's real, real bad. i'm ah I'm not going to lie. I have not engaged with a lot of early Keanu. Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate. Yeah, I appreciate late latter day Keanu, but I've not really engaged with a lot of early Keanu. I have, of course, seen um his accent in Dracula.
00:30:20
Speaker
I have seen ah his accent in Dangerous Liaisons. my My ex saw Le Liaison Dangerous on Broadway with Liev Schreiber.
00:30:31
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um Oh, word. I like Dave Shriver. He's great. You do love Dave Shriver. You love that guy. And of course, I've seen all the Bills and Ted's. So I do enjoy it. And I was an avid watcher of the Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures television cartoon show as well, which in its first season featured the voices of Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter as Bill and Ted.
00:30:55
Speaker
That's true. The era of 90s cartoons, we're just going to turn every 80s movie into a cartoon. and Correct. I really like how they Well, and that was another one. Like, you know how Back to the Future, the animated series had the intros with Doc Brown, with Christopher Lloyd as Doc Brown. Exactly. Yes.
00:31:13
Speaker
If I remember correctly, the Bill and Ted show, at least for a while, had live action intros with George Carlin as Rufus. I think you're right on that. Is that misremembering? I think that might be correct.
00:31:27
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um But again, i and i i remember, again, my weird stupid human trick about knowing television theme songs. I remember bits and pieces of that theme song despite not having seen it since the early 90s.
00:31:42
Speaker
um I remember quoting a line from it in a paper I wrote in high school, which is, to to save the future, we must learn about the past. That is a line that is embedded in my stupid, stupid brain for no reason. I like it. It's a pretty good line, to be fair. yeah it is.
00:32:01
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ah You can stream the first season currently on ah Prime Video and Pluto TV. You can stream the second season right now on the Roku channel. i Don't know why you want to stream the second season, though, because that one doesn't have Alex Winter or Keanu Reeves in it.
00:32:13
Speaker
yeah but it's probably got like um some cool voice actors from the time, right? you know You know who we've got. We've got Tress McNeil. We've got Joe Alasky. We've got the great Maurice LaMarche. There you go.
00:32:27
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Rob Paulson, Dana Hill. ah We do have 13 episodes worth of George Carlin. That's the usual suspects lineup of 90s voice actors right there. Into it, yeah.
00:32:39
Speaker
You've also – Roscoe Lee Brown is in there as well. Fucking love that guy. But yeah, I mean, we we got to we got some we got some solid vocal talent on this show. so What's wild to me is that you have the Back to the Future cartoon having Christopher Lloyd. he has a Bill and Ted cartoon with Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves. But straight up Ernie Hudson auditions to play Winston in the real Ghostbusters cartoon. they're like, no, man, you're not that good.
00:33:06
Speaker
They give it to Arsenio instead. They give it to Arsenio for some reason. Come on, man. why i I have read multiple different things on this. One of the things I read is like we can't have the one guy sounding exactly like the guy from the movie and then none of the other guys sounding like the guys from the movie. like Oh, I don't know. Which makes sense, but it sucks for Ernie Hudson who like I always – I love seeing that guy work.
00:33:30
Speaker
Like Ernie Hudson working is one of my favorite things. you know Speaking of Ernie Hudson, um you know I've spoken many times on the pod about how I met him, and he's very nice. Well, I've also met Alex Winter.
00:33:46
Speaker
okay. Tell us about that. When I met him, this is the film we talked about. That makes a lot of sense to me. I bet his eyes lit up. I was going to say that he was He was a a lot like Ernie Hudson, which is why i bring them up in in the same breath here. ah that He was very friendly. He was very excited to talk to people and like ask them about themselves and not just like answer questions.
00:34:14
Speaker
um but He was a really really talkative guy, really accommodating guy. We talked about this movie and he signed. Well, you I've showed it to you guys before. It's not up here because it's in storage, but my autographed photo of him is.
00:34:31
Speaker
Is him um is is Ricky Coogan from freaked. Yes. And it's essentially it's. The it's from basically this one, this right here.
00:34:46
Speaker
ah the The picture of him half mutant, half man. And he signed it, boo, dude.
00:34:56
Speaker
yeah I love that for you, man. that's That is very exciting, actually. he was really nice. I met him in Louisville in probably 2011, probably, i think.
00:35:10
Speaker
okay yeah he was really nice What did he have to say about this movie? Like, what what were some of the things you guys talked to I'm sure everything. i mean, he's he's spoken about this movie publicly quite a bit. But like, what what was the tenor of the conversation?
00:35:24
Speaker
Well, i I told him that that I was a big fan of it. And um i we just talked about it. He said that it was a really cool experience for him. it was probably one of the some of the most fun that he's had. Just kind of like it was.
00:35:40
Speaker
It was like just hanging out with your friends, you know, and just making a movie like everybody take it, take it. Everybody take it seriously. You guys, everybody took it seriously. But, you know, it wasn't that serious at the same time.
00:35:52
Speaker
Right. I mean, it yeah, which which makes a lot. of I mean, you can kind of see that in the film, too. Like it that that kind of spirit and energy really comes across in this movie. He also said. Oh, sorry. Oh, no, please go ahead. Sorry.
00:36:06
Speaker
He also said that at the time, he really enjoyed like having all the makeup on and stuff, and like that was exciting and fun, but he wouldn't do it anymore. And that was 15 years ago, so I'm sure he's even even more like, yeah, I don't want to sit in that chair.
00:36:24
Speaker
And i don't I don't blame him. like it's that ah Prosthetics are a young man's game. Especially that one. like All that drool that you see in the movie, that's it's it's his actual drool because he can't close his mouth. like Right. so i And as you know as someone who's had to kind of work work up drool for a performance and in acting, it's not always easy to do. So I did a play once where I had to Right. I did a play once where I had to pass out on stage. And so I would force myself to drool for like 10 solid minutes so that when they pulled my head up off the stage, I had this like a line of drool coming out of my mouth from the stage. Gross. Gross, Steven. It got a reaction every night though, which is exactly what I wanted.
00:37:09
Speaker
so Speaking of reactions, um this movie, something I really appreciate about this movie is that it tells you exactly what it is from the first frame. If you make it through the credits, you're good. That's i like you watch the credits and that's when you decide, is this for me? Is this not for me?
00:37:27
Speaker
And they they really lean into it like that song is annoying as shit. Yep. a but but It's. Just Henry Rollins, like, just yelling, Frank, Frank, Frank, Frank. It's like, oh, man. If you made it past the credits, you're okay.
00:37:45
Speaker
The animation's pretty cool. Like, I like the animation of those opening credits, but the song like is... Exactly. Wild. This movie also reminds me a lot of, mainly because of the setting, reminds me of Nothing But Trouble, the the Dan Aykroyd's loan directing credit. That would be good double feature. Good double feature with this. My parents own that on DVD.
00:38:12
Speaker
That does not surprise me. Why am I not surprised that Tucker has a deep history with Nothing But Trouble? Oh, whereas i See, honestly enough, I hate that movie. It's disgusting in a way I'm not a fan of. Me too. Right.
00:38:27
Speaker
i've i will i will confess I've never seen it. I feel like I should just watch it for the bit at this point. um If we ever cover it, I will definitely – don't know. Maybe we cover it just so you guys can force me to watch it because I don't know if I'd watch it for any other reason. No, we don't want to watch it. We're not going to force you to watch not going to force you to watch because I would not care to watch it again. Like, you should watch it, Steven, just to say that you've watched it to have that experience, but I don't want to watch it again.
00:38:55
Speaker
Fair enough. No desire. I respect it for what it is, but no thank you. Yeah, the props to Dan Aykroyd for getting a passion project like that made, but, like, that's your passion project, my guy? Come on. come on Like, I mean, you yeah you you you think this movie is weird and gross?
00:39:12
Speaker
Well, you have not seen weird and gross until you've seen... Which makes a lot of a lot of sense. Like, again, in... yeah this that That movie comes out just a couple years before this one. so like there's I feel like this is Freaked is kind of the Gen X version of what Nothing But Trouble is. well It's got some Nothing But Trouble in its DNA, for sure. but I would describe it as like, Freaked is like gross and disgusting in a fun way, and Nothing But Trouble is gross and disgusting in a bad way.
00:39:41
Speaker
It's in a way trying to gross you out and disgust you. I guess this is too, but no, Brett, I think you said it better. Yeah. Just let's be keep it simple. Freaked is gross good, gross and disgusting. Nothing but trouble is gross, gross and disgusting.
00:39:56
Speaker
yeah Because, i mean, there there are also again, there there are elements that are there are elements that are truly repulsive and infreaked, to be sure. But there are also moments that are just.
00:40:06
Speaker
fun and funny don't feel realistic and freaked like in nothing but troubles a lot of it feels more visceral and like realistic than the fantastical shit that's happening in freaks it's like the mean-spirited version of freaked and and mean-spirited towards the audience yeah yeah like fuck you for coming to see this movie how dare you and why would you even do that Yeah. I don't know. Maybe, maybe one day I will, I'll, I'll just, you know, can if, if, if the self-loathing gets real bad, I might just turn that on. I'm going to borrow my parents' DVD. I don't know. Maybe if as long as your parents don't want it back. Sure. i don't think they've watched it because like, I noticed it for the first time a couple of weeks ago in their collection. I was like, you guys watch this. And she's like, Oh, my mom's like, Oh, I don't know. and I was like, you,
00:41:00
Speaker
You don't know what this is? You bought this? Oh, we found it at garage sale. Dan Aykroyd did it. alright. Yeah, watch that. Have fun with that, guys. Sweet summer child. Have fun, guys.
00:41:12
Speaker
i I remember seeing posters for or like ads for nothing but trouble when I was a kid and or like the the the VHS box when I would go to the video store and just wondering, what is that? What movie has those four people in it? And why does Dan Aykroyd look like that? That was kind of my thinking as a child looking at that that box art. Do you ever want to trick your boomer parents into watching a movie they're definitely going to hate?
00:41:42
Speaker
Suggest nothing but trouble. Because they'll be like, oh, look, love all the people in this cast. Oh, yeah. I'll bet that's a cute show. Chevy Chase. I hear everyone that works with him has a great time. Especially people of color. And and the ah then the Mr. Bone Stripper scene happens. and Ah, no! then we change the subject, man? Well, I mean, we're supposed to be talking about Freaked. Freaked.
00:42:09
Speaker
I mean, it's it's a I'll allow the transition. I mean, it did need to be talked about because they are similar in some ways. I mean, Randy Quaid here is essentially the the Dan Aykroyd of this movie. And it is it's it's Randy Quaid. Like we always knew Randy Quaid was weird. I feel like we've only recently come to find out just how weird Randy Quaid is. Well, and um recently, you mean like the last 15 years? mean like we've known for a while by this point. By this point, yes. But like not when he was like making movies. Like this comes out, i what four years before Independence Day? Mm-hmm.
00:42:48
Speaker
Like he's like he's I mean, and and a few years after what's the like he's been on Saturday Night Live at this point. He's been in several ah National Lampoon's vacation films at this point.
00:43:03
Speaker
Like i mean you mean, too. Yes.
00:43:08
Speaker
Oh, he's not in European Vacation. That's right. I always forget he's and not in that one. I believe he's in Vegas Vacation. He is definitely in Vegas, but Vegas is 97. So at this point, he's only done um Christmas and ah the original, which Christmas is 89. You know, well, the same year that he did Parents.
00:43:33
Speaker
Parents? I've seen our previous episode on Parents. that's For me, that's peak Randy Quaid. Parents is his best performance. That makes sense. that That makes sense that you would say that.
00:43:45
Speaker
Brett, did you watch Parents? yeah No, but it not. Poop, Brett. You got to watch it right now. Let's let's end this. ah Come see me on Instagram. Okay, bye, everybody.
00:43:56
Speaker
All right, cool.
00:43:59
Speaker
I'm we pulled Brett out of storage for this one. I gave this movie three and a half stars. I'm out. Bye! See you guys later. her ah Meanwhile, like three people getting very... me Like all the Brett heads are going, damn it!
00:44:15
Speaker
How dare they! As a consolation, everybody cue up parents. We're going to start a commentary in one minute. Oh. um But like yeah, I mean, Quaid is kind of this ah bizarre comedy guy. Like he's Caddyshack 2. Like he's he's got this kind of pedigree around him, this comedic pedigree up to this point.
00:44:37
Speaker
And this is very much in keeping with like a kind of cousin Eddie, like what if cousin Eddie, but like sideshow Barker kind of point of order. When you say Quaid, you're talking about the actor and not the character and blade runner or not blade runner. Yeah. Correct. The guy inside of him.
00:44:57
Speaker
Okay. Got it. No, that's Quado. That's not Quade. That's Quado. Well, the guy is Quade. Quado is the thing inside of him. Right. Quado. Quado is the little. Yeah. We, we, we just re-released our episode on Total Recall. So go check that one out. What prescient reference I've just made. Right. It's almost like you knew that happened. um And we're aware the whole time. In my, in the back of my subconscious. Clearly.
00:45:22
Speaker
Clearly. Righteous kill, Brett. Righteous kill. If I hadn't stumbled over the wrong name of the movie for some fucking reason, that might've been funnier, but here we are. You're, you're, you're fine. We're going to live with it. Don't edit. Just, just, yeah, just, just, just embrace it, man. It happens.
00:45:39
Speaker
It happens. And we have, we have the best time. We really do. um It's good. It's good to have you back, Brett. It is. It's, it's good. It's good. I'm glad you're here. Thank you.
00:45:51
Speaker
and I'm thinking of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Blade Runner and it's pretty funny visual. guess tears in the rain
00:46:00
Speaker
ah like rain his brain tears in the rain
00:46:09
Speaker
I have seen things you people would not believe. Because clearly he's not playing Harrison Ford's character. No, obviously. And he's clearly Roy Batty. Like, Roy Batty is like the the the pinnacle of, yeah, he's he's absolutely that. That makes the most sense.
00:46:23
Speaker
um God, that is a funny image. ah But yeah, like Randy Quaid in this is just doing Randy Quaid shit um in this movie. And then he would become a real life version of ah hit all of these fucking weird ass characters that he's played over the course of his life and just channel that into ah his everyday existence.
00:46:47
Speaker
um That's too bad. What a weird guy. That's too bad because the rest of that family I'm on board with. you know I like Jack Quaid. I like Dennis Quaid.
00:46:59
Speaker
Dennis is great in in the substance. and ah we we We love Jack. in i mean he was good in Novocaine out earlier this year. he was great in Five Cream. We love that dude.
00:47:11
Speaker
yeah And the boys, obviously. The boys, obviously. absolutely Absolutely. yeah but like More Jack Quaid, please and thank you. oh ah see Novocaine. Novocaine's pretty fun.
00:47:24
Speaker
I haven't seen it yet, but i you said that i you liked it, so I said I would look at it. Yeah, it's um i mean it yeah it's ah it's a fun movie. um Just kind of a like a hapless dude in the middle of an action movie that he has no like he's just not prepared for, which is really fun.
00:47:44
Speaker
um And he's he's very good in it, and he's very funny. So, yeah. Jack Quaid. We love that guy. Jack ah better than Dennis, better than Randy. That's my hierarchy of Quaid's.
00:47:55
Speaker
I don't know. like Dennis Quaid. And I like, as an as an actor, as a performer, I like Randy Quaid sometimes. Look, i I'm not goingnna i'm not goingnna not going to disparage him too much. Acting-wise, personally, I feel like the man has some problems.
00:48:14
Speaker
Really? Yeah. i think let's Let's go for a deeper into that, Stephen. What's going on with you? and I thought it was just ah the other guy you didn't like. Who's that guy you don't like? Kevin Costner.
00:48:26
Speaker
They're not the same guy, Stephen. No. yeah Here's the thing. I don't like Kevin Costner as an actor. I don't like Randy Quaid as a human being. Oh, I thought we were talking about Dennis Quaid. My bad.
00:48:39
Speaker
No. No, i think I think Dennis Quaid is ah is a fine actor. Yeah, interspace. Yeah, maybe interspace. I do. And the substance. And yeah, I'm not a huge... I don't think I fall in line with his politics, but um as an actor, yeah, Dennis Quaid, great. maybe Maybe just live in your ignorance then, Tucker.
00:49:00
Speaker
Okay. I you and mine. When it comes to politics, always live in your ignorance. You're going to happier that way. Yay! Yay! Yay! The less you know about politics, the better right now. Because because ultimately what's going happen, Tucker, is you're going to learn something and you're going to come back and you're going to say, i was wrong.
00:49:21
Speaker
That's true.
00:49:24
Speaker
That's what's going to happen. yeah That's just me adding that to the show now.
00:49:31
Speaker
This is why I should not be placed in charge of the soundboard. I think there is a way um to download what the soundboard does to.
00:49:42
Speaker
um i noticed last time, so I might not have to go back and edit edit that stuff in. That'd be nice. We'll see. youre you're You are still going to have to, you know, make sure you edit out all the references to it. You bastard. Well, thank you for being at keeping that so close to um the other thing I have to bleep out. So, I mean, I figured while you're here, you might as well. Yeah.
00:50:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you could you could probably just chop this behind the scenes section altogether if you really wanted to. No, that sounds like a lot of work. That's not his style. No, fair enough. if i had If I had time and energy, I'd probably do that.
00:50:19
Speaker
ah But also Bobcat Goldthwait in this movie. Love that guy. He's a sock. he He's Socko. Or Sockhead,
00:50:30
Speaker
um who is just a ah a three handed person. There's a third hand where the head should be. and that hand has a sock on it with eyes. And it just talks like Bobcat Goldthwait. Now we, we do see him briefly when he's talking about his origin, how he came to the place and it is, it's Bobcat Goldthwait.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yes, it is. It is Bobcat Goldthwait as the future as the the past sock Sockhead. And, you I mean, you get three of the – or four of those. And they're all pretty funny. You get the one for Sockhead. You get the one for the bearded lady. Mr. T as the bearded lady. You get the one for um the worm the worm ah worm man, the the professor. yeah And then you get one for the ah the the hammer, which used to be a wrench.
00:51:25
Speaker
Yeah. it's just which there's a hammer on the flag. You do these other three and then you pan to the hammer and it's just a lengthy flashback of how the hammer used to be a wrench and was turned into hammer. It's yes a fantastic payoff. but No dialogue at all. just And then everyone's just like, oh, damn.
00:51:48
Speaker
Everyone's just like, really sad. like like That's the most tragic one. Yeah, does it's a fantastic joke. And the payoffs for that are really like the when you see when they're all dressed as milkmen trying to escape from the freak show and Mr. T as the bearded lady is holding the hammer and the hammer is also dressed like a milkman ah is just not just ah an incredible joke ah that you will blink and visual. Yes.
00:52:21
Speaker
Yes. ah And it's they don't draw any attention to it. Like there's not a close up of the hammer as dressed as a milkman. He's just holding a hammer and it's wearing a milkman. Lest you forget that the hammer is in fact part of the freak show.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah. Yes, indeed. Good shit. Yeah. Which is great. Which is great. Like, again, that's one of those things in this movie that I think works. And I think that works really well.
00:52:49
Speaker
ah But, you know, there's for for every one of those, there's at least one, if not two other jokes that don't work super well for me. I think in in movies like this, this movie has a certain charm to it. And if you're into it, if it if it hits you just right and it tickles you,
00:53:07
Speaker
then even the bad jokes, ah they're worth the price of admission. um it's It's kind of like pooty tang or a hot rod in that regard. Whereas both of those movies has have ah ah a better ratio of hits to misses, but still like i'm over the same where like the misses, they work because like you're, you're into it anyway. So like it's the ones that don't exactly land.
00:53:33
Speaker
They're a lot funnier just because you're into the movie. Hmm. Whereas like you put a clip up on YouTube of one of them, like with no context, it's like, ah no, what? Huh?
00:53:47
Speaker
But I think like for me, when I watch this movie, when i when I'm in the mood and I watch this movie, ah it it all lands even when it doesn't. Just because ah I don't know. It's easy to appreciate.
00:54:02
Speaker
things um in certain contexts. And I think this film is an example of that. If you're into it, if that's what you're into.
00:54:15
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Brett, is there a joke that you that that that works particularly well for you here? Like a joke that just kind of hits your Hall of Fame for this movie? Um, not that, not that I can recall really.
00:54:29
Speaker
Um, I mean the, the wrench into the hammer joke is very good. I like the, I like the board members, how they've all got the strings on their hands and they just they raised their hands to vote because they're all old and right.
00:54:47
Speaker
And William Sadler's literally just got like a series of levers and pulleys next to his chair at all times. Yeah. One of my favorites is at the end. It goes back to the talk show, which is just like Puditang. Like he's been telling this story the whole time. Right.
00:55:04
Speaker
And like i think this is probably one of my top five jokes in the movie is when they finally turn the light on and his face is normal. It's just there was a plant casting a shadow. Like a cactus or something behind him that looked exactly like the other half of his face. Yeah. It's like ah a weird shadow. Yeah.
00:55:22
Speaker
The comic irony of like the fact that the professor just doesn't like macaroons and so he doesn't become human just because he doesn't like macaroons. He couldn't force himself to eat one. He hates them that much.
00:55:34
Speaker
He's going to stay a worm. And never wipe his ass again. That would be me with cabbage. They would be like, it's cabbage that turns you back. going be like, well, then I guess I'm staying a worm, bitch.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah. I, I, you know, even if it's something I dislike, like I have a handful of foods that I did just tend to not care for. I, I'd suck it up for, for the return to humanity. It's, you know, hello but then, I mean, who else is a worm?
00:56:02
Speaker
Come on. Touche. um So the, this movie was originally intended as a vehicle for the, the nineties band, the butthole surfers. i don't know if you know this, you heard about this.
00:56:14
Speaker
Yeah. They do a lot of the songs on this actually. Right. ah It was basically Alex Winter's idea was beach Beach Blanket Bingo meets the Evil Dead starring the butthole surfers.
00:56:28
Speaker
And then eventually they kind of dropped out. So they pivoted and kind of Alex Winter took over. um The head, the studio head, Joe Roth, really enjoyed the movie, believed in it, gave him $12 million, $1 million of which went to Keanu Reeves to secure his uncredited cameo in the movie.
00:56:47
Speaker
Such was his fame at the time. Yeah. And then there was a shakeup at the studio and the new studio had said, um no, thank you. Do not like this.
00:56:59
Speaker
It was the, the name of that studio head was Peter Churnin and Peter Churnin did not like the film. And so like it was, it was scheduled for a wide release. Like there were action figures released. Like this was supposed to be a big tentpole movie.
00:57:15
Speaker
And instead it opened on two screens. Yeah. Oh, no. the first weekend of october The first week of October, 1993. It opened to two screens, made like less than $7,000 in its opening weekend and less than $30,000 across its entire run. So i not a hit.
00:57:37
Speaker
I'd love to see this ah at a theater. And I'm going go ahead and time stamp this. Because speaking of ****, I did... Um, every couple months I'll do a Google search and see if there's anybody new talking about it.
00:57:55
Speaker
And, you know, every once in a while a screening will pop up just randomly somewhere at some artsy fartsy theater, like a midnight screening. And with me living in the 12th largest city in the United States now, I'm hoping that maybe one of those will pop up and i will know about it. Um,
00:58:15
Speaker
Because I really like the theaters in the city that would totally play a movie like that for special. Absolutely. Yeah. Two or three off top my head. I could think of. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I just i mean that to happen. Same with this movie. And I think it does happen from time to time. I think probably with as far as being able to ask someone to play it, I think my best chance is the skyline in Shelbyville.
00:58:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Because i I am friendly with the guy who owns that place, so i could probably could probably talk him into it. Another thing you could do, and ah we we all know someone who has done this, is you could just rent out a theater and watch it with your friends.
00:59:00
Speaker
Well... Not so much with this movie, but with the that gets complicated because that's not a movie you can just get like you have to contact certain people to get that.
00:59:14
Speaker
Right. Whereas I think if you have it like on physical media, that probably makes it a lot easier to do that with. I mean, yeah, but, well, ah Stephen, you can't just show a movie. Like, you have to – that's – you can't just put a DVD on. Well, you're not supposed to. um You're supposed to, like – I'm pretty sure if you rent out of theater, they're not bothering to do anything with copyright. They're just going to whatever you want to show. Exactly. out but Particularly because it's not a public screening then. It's a private screening because you've rented the theater. Correct.
00:59:46
Speaker
yeah I don't know which. No, you're right. You're right. Okay. I was about to call the police because I personally would not download a car. That's just me. That's just me. I'm calling bullshit there, but okay. I would not download a car. Are you kidding me?
01:00:01
Speaker
If you had the option, i I feel like you would download a car. No, that's stealing. Lots of people worked hard to make those cars. If I download a car, then that's like they're not going to have jobs at some point.
01:00:15
Speaker
It's my fault. Plug that into your 3D printer and just, you know, build it yourself in your, in your spare time. Oh, like Johnny Cash in that one thong. Oh, where he takes it at a time. One piece at a time. Yeah. One like piece at a time. and I try to do that.
01:00:30
Speaker
I try to do that at my job, but just, ah you know, not have to go to the grocery store. It's fantastic. Just one, one little grocery at a time. That's it. The next thing you know, you fed your family for a week.
01:00:44
Speaker
There you go. One the perks. But I'm sure if you reached out to Bruce Arnston, he would, I'm sure he would figure out a way to arrange a screening of for you.
01:00:59
Speaker
For sure. Yeah. It's not really that difficult to do.
01:01:04
Speaker
I'm sure he's got representation that you can contact too. So yeah. And he'd probably come and do a Q and a after the screening too. Yeah. we could We could host it i'd come back i'd come I'd come back to Indy for that, to host a screening of a Z-Song. Not that our name above the title would do anything, but yeah. no I'll tell you, we do have enough...
01:01:26
Speaker
um consistent listeners to fill a small theater. if now Now if we can only get them all into one city at one time. Because we have, on average, and have for the longest time, it's like it never goes up and it never goes down. We have about 150. That's about where we are every week across YouTube, Zencaster, all that stuff.
01:01:53
Speaker
So yeah, we'd have, if we could get everybody In one place. wow that' be pick i And it would be the movie to do it is it's one of our it's It's one of our highest watched episodes. Now, Parents is our highest wise our most watched on YouTube.
01:02:11
Speaker
I was going to say, could could you figure out out a way to contact Bob Balaban? Would Bob Balaban come to Indiana to talk about that movie? Is Wes Anderson shooting a movie right now? i don't know.
01:02:23
Speaker
I think what's Wes Anderson is just perennially shooting movies. Let's be honest. Yeah, probably. Oh, Randy Travis. um Sorry about that.
01:02:34
Speaker
ah Yeah, Parents. that's that's our That's our big one. People love that episode for some reason. Like 2,000 views. that's That is insane. on the um on that one On the YouTubes. My time truly has passed.
01:02:49
Speaker
No. You gotta watch it. well You know what? Since it is our highest has our has the highest views, and I did it's do...
01:02:58
Speaker
ninetyf four views um but since it has the highest views we should do Just another episode on it, but it's with Brett this time. brett We'll call it Brett Watches Parents.
01:03:12
Speaker
Do a commentary track of it. We've not done a commentary track in like four years. well Well, maybe, but just also a regular episode where we all just... Steven and I watch it again and Brett watches it for the first time.
01:03:24
Speaker
i'm I'm making you burn a straight up on that. I'm sorry. Okay. We'll get Bob Balaban on. fucking i was going to say... You know that kid, the kid who plays the kid in that movie, like he's just like an accountant somewhere. We could probably get him on.
01:03:40
Speaker
could probably get him, yeah. You know what he's not in, though, weirdly? Freaked? Freaked. Like, can't believe it. He's not in this movie. but remain i will say. Hurt is not in this movie.
01:03:52
Speaker
not Also not in this movie. I did see a movie recently with Mary Beth Hurt in it, and I thought of you. I love her. i want to hug her. I want to meet her and hug her. um Alex Zuckerman is in this movie as as Stewie Gluck. And that is an actor who just i as soon as I saw him, I'm like, oh, that is just like one of the perennial kid actors of the 90s. He was in. ah yeah ah He's in. He's in Blank Check.
01:04:18
Speaker
yeah The Exorcist three. ah Like just one of those actors who just the adventures of Huckleberry of Huck Finn, the Elijah Wood movie. Like he's just in shit.
01:04:30
Speaker
Like that kid just shows up in shit and he is also, again, referencing our our movie that we did last week. He is ah a perennial voice in a ah direct to video Wizard of Oz stint from 96 to 97. He did like several direct to video Wizard of Oz animated films as a virtual Oz.
01:04:55
Speaker
Toto lost in New York and the gnome Prince and the magic belt and Christmas in Oz and underground adventure. And they're pretty sure who Santa counts as well.
01:05:06
Speaker
And journey beneath the sea. Like he just did. That was like after he did like a TV show appearance, he did blank check and a TV show appearance. And then just like all those. And he was after the, after the last one, he was done.
01:05:20
Speaker
he was du You know, that's what you do. you get that's That's enough residuals. you know you know Speaking of, if I may, like I feel like we've said already a lot about ah Freaked, but I know that speaking of Oz, I know that Brett did is is someone who has seen Return to Oz and really wanted to be on the episode that we did about it. I wonder if we could just take take a moment to ah for Brett to tell us what he thought of Return to Oz. Would that be ok okay? Oh, would love that.
01:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, let's let's talk about that just briefly before we wrap this up. Tell us about Return to Oz, Brett. It's real good. Yeah. Oh, it is, right? That's what I'm screaming. Steven, like, Steven was kind of... i was mad.
01:06:05
Speaker
Steven was like, I straight up appreciate this, but it's not for me all the time, you know, so... Kind of where I'm at with this, honestly. no Yeah. bri the Joking aside, Return to Oz is definitely like...
01:06:23
Speaker
it so be It was the genesis of what my aesthetic is now. Same. It feels very... Return to Oz is very breadcoded, honestly. Mm-hmm.
01:06:35
Speaker
Brett, one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen in a film and something that still creeps me out to this day is when Dorothy wakes up all of Mambi's heads and they all wake up and start screaming. That scene is terrifying. That kind that's still, ha like to this day, haunts my nightmares.
01:06:52
Speaker
Yeah. yeah I'm still like just thinking about it. I'm a little uncomfortable. like My heart rate went up just a little bit when I thought about it. Yeah, and as as I told you when we were talking about it briefly in in the group chat, like I... I'm currently playing a D&D campaign ah set in a sort of like Halloween-ish world, like very gothic horror.
01:07:15
Speaker
It's based on a lot of different like just, it's like Tim Burton created a D&D world. OK, that tracks him. And my character is he's he's ah basically a scarecrow with a pumpkin head, did that kind of based on Jack.
01:07:31
Speaker
so yeah Does he have Brian Henson's voice? Does he call everyone mom? You know what? In my head, no, no, he does. No, doesn't call everybody mom, though. No, no he's he's much he's more intelligent than Jack is.
01:07:48
Speaker
Not hard, but yeah. Even though his his name is also Jack. Well, Jack was brand new. he he was brand new. It's not that he wasn't smart. he was just ignorant. like he was he He was brand new. He's a brand new person.
01:08:00
Speaker
He's your scarecrow analog. He just got here, man. He just got here. You know he doesn't have a brain because there's a chicken in there for half the movie. yeah Yes. Yes, there is. To think that they they beat the villain of that movie because of a food allergy.
01:08:16
Speaker
I know. It's insane. We didn't even talk about that last week. That's hilarious. That's why we're talking about it now. yeah um But I will. So um the the limited release of Freaked was ah for October 3rd, which was ah was a Sunday.
01:08:35
Speaker
I'm doing the box office for the following week, which was October 8th, 1993. Again, on a $12 million budget, according to Wikipedia, this film earned, will say, think was $30,000, I think is what said. Yeah.
01:08:53
Speaker
yeah ah Did not do well. Yeah, less than 30,000. So not even 30,000 off of a $12 million dollars budget. The movie did not do that well. like I think movies like this, um a lot of them did bomb initially, but I mean, they're kind of still making money and they kind of. When when movies like this become cult classics and become re-evaluated and new generations discover them, like more and more people buy shit like the 4K.
01:09:20
Speaker
And this movie is still... like Right now, this movie is making money. When I spent 50 bucks on this 4K, this movie made money. Holy shit, Tucker. Really?
01:09:32
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Worth it. Okay. I got to import it from Australia. Tariffs, man. Come on. Oh, touche. Don't worry. It's region free. Okay. Well, it's a 4K, so I would assume so. Yeah. Well, the Blu-rays are too.
01:09:45
Speaker
So that's nice. Sometimes it's, you know, 4Ks are region free and the Blu-rays aren't, and that kind of sucks because usually the special features are on the Blu-rays. That's why you get region-free player like I have.
01:09:58
Speaker
um But ah opening number one at the box office in on October 8th, a future episode of this very podcast, a little movie called Demolition Man, which is new this week.
01:10:11
Speaker
don't want watch that with you guys. I don't think I've seen that since like – That was one that was on like TBS and shit or TNT. TNT. When I was a kid. One of them was prolific censored dialogue. Like, yes, yes.
01:10:28
Speaker
Yes. So bad. You could tell it's yeah. Very funny. I think. i Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Funny TV Censorship
01:10:35
Speaker
I mean, I think that my favorite of that is the crow on the TV version. When they when the police are at the murder and Ernie Hudson's boss, who is just an asshole for no reason through the entire movie, um usually he says, holy fucking shit.
01:10:52
Speaker
But on TV, he says, holy flippin' spit. And I still sometimes say, holy flippin' spit, if I'm not saying holy fork and shirtballs.
01:11:05
Speaker
i love i love the two I love referencing those monkey fighting snakes on that Monday to Friday plane. yeah That's that's always always going to be a a hallmark for me. but Yeah, I'm in this one.
Nostalgia: 'Cool Runnings' and Childhood
01:11:18
Speaker
ah Number two, up from number three, the weekend before, a movie I saw in theaters. Walt Disney Pictures, Cool Runnings. I did not see that in the theater. John Candy Yeah. featuring Featuring nothing but troubles, John Candy. Yes. i did own i did I did own that on VHS, though. That's for sure. I didn't see at the theater, though, unfortunately. We yeah we taped that one off the Disney Channel during one of those free weekends. Yeah. That's how you do it.
01:11:44
Speaker
That's how you do it. That is how we did it. had the Disney Channel, so I watched that movie a lot because there was nothing wrong. Nice. Mr. Fancy Pants over here, Brett. Right? Ooh, rich boy. Brett did a very good job growing up, okay? It was a very privileged growing up until he got laid out. Disney Channel and HBO.
01:12:03
Speaker
Yeah, man. Hang out Brett's house when I'm 12 years old. Absolutely. would would that we Would that we had known him then. um why don't you move into my neighborhood 25 ago?
01:12:15
Speaker
Why don't you do that? I've said this before. We would have been probably very good friends. Oh, dude. Yeah, especially because you're so much bigger than me. Well, yeah. i mean me Me and Joseph would have been fighting over your friendship for sure. Yes! Well, you would have been fighting other people while I mouthed off. Yes. While mark while his mouth wrote checks, his body was unwilling to cash. Unable. It's not even really unwilling. have a slender frame. like Both can be true. Mm-hmm.
01:12:45
Speaker
You're not wrong. And i would have I would have been the guy that you would have been like this this little goody two-shoes nerd ass boy. No thank you. yeah i would have get behind today yeah i would have I would have been wedgied and shoved in a locker and forgotten for several weeks. No, I was the champion of the outsider when I was younger. To a fault, even. like i tried to befriend some very scary people.
01:13:11
Speaker
Well, I think there's a difference between, like, Outsider and what Steven probably was. I mean, I don't mean that offensively, but, like... Too late. ah No, i like I liked all the Jesus nerds, too, man. I liked everybody. Like, don't know. I was that guy.
01:13:26
Speaker
i was yeah I was more of the Outkast guy, as well. I definitely hung out with them more than anything in high school, so... Well, I mean, i I will not say that I didn't also hang out with like the cool kids, too. i was I was one of those rare beasts that could walk with impunity between all of the different groups. A daywalker. Yes, yes.
01:13:47
Speaker
When you go to a small enough school, everyone knows everyone, so they kind of have no choice but to interact with you whether they want to or not. Steven, my graduating class had over 400 people in it, so that's not the case.
01:13:59
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I graduated in a class of 60.
01:14:03
Speaker
nice I like that. I did briefly go to a Jesus school of only 30 students in K through 12. I think that was very formative. That was why i I kind of became the person I was who was that popular person in all of the groups in high school. If it hadn't been for, because in middle school, I was a mess.
01:14:20
Speaker
And so my parents sent me to this little tiny Jesus school and that, that's kind of how I figured out who I was. And then they sent me back to public school and I fucking thrived. Thrived. Thrived.
01:14:32
Speaker
I went to public school for three years and completely shut down. Oh, Stephen. If I were there, I would have befriended you and and you would have had a cool time. You didn't live on that side of town.
01:14:43
Speaker
That's too bad. We knew a lot of the same people, though That's a damn shame. that Well, it's because I went to church on another side of town. um i mean, i think your parents got there to that side of town, but, you know.
01:14:55
Speaker
Yeah, they're there now, but... They're there now, but not one not when I was a kid, damn it. Eastside, born and bred.
Box Office Movies Discussion
01:15:01
Speaker
Yeah. Near Eastside. The close Eastside.
01:15:06
Speaker
Yikes. I can still hear the gunshots, Eastside. I was going to say, right. At third place in the box office, a little movie called Malice. With one of the Baldwin's, you got a Nicole Kidman in there.
01:15:19
Speaker
ah Down from number one the week before, so not not ah not a good... not a way gainer ah In fourth place, down from number two in its third weekend, speaking of Elijah Wood, but also Macaulay Culkin, a little movie called The Good Son. The Son. That's a weird one.
01:15:39
Speaker
That's one of the movies I can't watch because it just makes me angry. Movies about like a kid that's being tormented and nobody believes him. That shit drives me insane. It gives me so much anxiety, I can't watch it.
01:15:51
Speaker
Well, it looks like Brett's ready to go back to at number five, ah An Age of Innocence, the Martin Scorsese film Age of Innocence at number five. And then rounding out the top 10, we have at number six, The Joy Luck Club. ah Number seven, something called Mr. Jones.
01:16:07
Speaker
ah What if there was a Mr. Jones? What if Counting Crows made a movie? ah the mr ah Starring Richard Gere as the titular Mr. Jones. Also, Bill Pullman, Lena Olin, Delroy Lindo, and Anne Bancroft. Like, incredible cast for a movie that does not exist. I'm down with the new Amsterdam.
01:16:29
Speaker
ah Can i tell you yellow hand no can i tell you of just a very short anecdote? ah For the longest time, mr Jones by Counting Crows was my bad luck song.
Counting Crows and Bad Luck
01:16:41
Speaker
For some reason, every time it came on the radio, something bad would happen, and it all culminated. ah When I lived in Germany, i was I was in the military, and we had an off-base warehouse where we kept a lot of shit we didn't need at the warehouse on base, so ah most of which was there there was all of our Christmas decorations were there for the office. So my friend Dave and i being the low men on the totem pole, we were tasked with taking the the warehouse truck the um the warehouse American truck um to the off-base warehouse to get the Christmas decorations. So we had a full-ass artificial tree in the back of this Ford F-150 and boxes of decorations, all this other stuff. We're driving down the road and we're listening to Rockland Radio and Das ist der Super Hit.
01:17:32
Speaker
um And they played, for some reason, they played Mr. Jones by The Counting Crows. And I was like, oh man, like, Some bad shits happened while listening this song, but it's just such a banger.
01:17:44
Speaker
And like we're getting into it, we're singing it and stuff because I had showed him August and everything after, you know, because we lived close and we were best friends and stuff. um And while we were just straight up jamming out with our clams out to this song, that artificial Christmas tree on the Autobahn leaves the back of our truck.
01:18:11
Speaker
we We keep going, but the tree, it's back there. Luckily, it like blew to the side of the road instead of like hitting another motorist, which we got so lucky. We just kind of stopped and backed up on the shoulder and got it. But that could have been that could have been really bad. So for about like what that was like 2004 when that happened until last year.
01:18:41
Speaker
I was afraid of that song. And last year at the campground, during karaoke, I decided, you know what? I don't have bad luck songs. I'm not going to let this song do this to me.
01:18:52
Speaker
So I did it. I did Mr. Jones for karaoke. And the pavilion did not collapse. and No one died. no one got hurt. It is good to hear because that motherfucker's been leaning for a good two years.
01:19:06
Speaker
Just waiting for that thing to come down. Really. Well, it's no longer your problem. If it does. No, I guess not. Like you look at it from far away and you're like that.
01:19:20
Speaker
You got tilt your head like a curious dog, you know. OK, that's a pavilion. There you go. At number nine or no, number eight, we have ah the ah Robert
Dangerous Inspiration from 'The Program'
01:19:33
Speaker
De Niro film directed by Robert De Niro, a Bronx tale with him and Chaz Palminteri. yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:40
Speaker
At number nine, we have ah The Program directed by David S. Ward, the man who gave us Major League and King Ralph and Down Periscope.
01:19:51
Speaker
Yes, but The Program, wasn't that the one where people got in trouble for imitating it, where they lay they they lie down in the middle of the road Is that that movie?
01:20:02
Speaker
ah Several players from different backgrounds try to cope with the pressures of playing football at a major university. Yes. And people with the pressure differently. Some turn to drinking, others to drugs and some to studying.
01:20:15
Speaker
And it was ah it was a big deal. it was on the news back in the day because um people in college football teams imitated the behavior in the movie, some of which was laying on the yellow dotted line of a highway.
01:20:30
Speaker
like laying on their backs and letting cars just pass. And people got hurt doing that because they were imitating this film. That's dumb. Yeah, it's real, real dumb.
01:20:43
Speaker
That's the only thing I know about that movie. i mean that's matt which is more than More than I know about it. It's got Halle Berry and and James Caan. What programmed something? Yeah. what if What if there was a program?
01:20:55
Speaker
um Omar Epps. ah Discount David Boreanaz from our episode on the... was Nightbreed from our Nightbreed episode. Craig Sheffer is in there. ah ah did ah The OG Buffy, Christy Swanson. Abraham and Ruby. Great, great cast. Joey Lauren Adams. We love her. um Very, very interesting cast in this film. And then at number nine, at number ten, rather, that was number nine. Number ten, ah For Love or Money, but not both.
01:21:27
Speaker
Okay. ah The film is For Love or Money. Neat. Yep. Sweet. ah But there you go Those are top 10. The Metascore, the, i idea I didn't even look up the Tomatometer score. What the hell is wrong with me?
01:21:41
Speaker
Let me grab the Tomatometer score for free. Let's see if there is one, first of all. It looks like there is. And it is 57%.
01:21:53
Speaker
is the the Rotten Tomatoes Tomatometer score for this film. The ah Metascore is a 58 based on 12 critic reviews. And Tucker, now with the new reduced three-point spread, how many stars do you think Freaked currently has on Letterboxd as of the time of this recording?
'Freaked' Movie Ratings Debate
01:22:16
Speaker
I think this is a unique film for Letterboxd because there's... it it kind of writes its own meme reviews. So I think people on Letterboxd,
01:22:31
Speaker
I think no matter how you slice it, it's going to be above average. So I'm going to say, let's see, 0.3. going to between 3.3.
01:22:40
Speaker
between three a three point three height four and 3.7. Nope. Yes. 3.4 and 3.7. Final answer.
01:22:56
Speaker
letterbox score for 1993 freaked is three point six.
01:23:01
Speaker
the letterback score for nineteen ninety s three is freaked is a three point
01:23:09
Speaker
six Wow. Okay. i'm wow Wow. Wow. 3.6. That's surprising. I did not expect letterboxd to go that high. yeah Nor nor i But there are, i will say, over 2,700 five-star ratings for this film, which is 14% of the overall ratings. I can't believe there's that many reviews or ratings on letterboxd for this film, honestly.
01:23:36
Speaker
ah Brett, out of five stars, how many are you going to give to nineteen ninety three s Freaked? I spoiled it earlier already. I gave it 3.5. Okay. We can always go back and bleep that out.
01:23:49
Speaker
Nah. Didn't times get it. Don't care. Why? It's fine. ah Tucker, how about you? How many are you giving to Freaked? This is... It's very hard...
01:24:02
Speaker
um to give it either a 3.5 or a four. So I'm going to have to use the rarely used 3.75. Which is a cop out, whatever. Which Letterboxd doesn't do. Oh, are we going by Letterboxd ratings? I didn't know we were based on Letterboxd. didn't know we were doing the same rating system. I mean, we log this on Letterboxd once we average it out. Okay, cool. Fantastic. All right, then put me down for, round it up. Put me down for four.
01:24:33
Speaker
Okay. Alright. Which, with my 2.5, brings us to a 10. when i'm not for the mood and When I'm not in the mood for it, a 2. Yeah.
01:24:46
Speaker
Like, I really... Like, if I'm not... Like, don't... If I have a bad day at work, you throw this motherfucker on, no You're just gonna make my day worse. But, like, if I'm in good mood... So then we say that your rating is a 3, then. Because when you want to watch it, it's a 4. When you don't, it's a 2. But, the thing is...
01:25:04
Speaker
I don't, why would I, I can't see myself ever putting it on when I'm not in the mood though. So it's a non, it's a non issue. It's something to mention that I do have to be in the mood for it.
01:25:17
Speaker
anecdotal what happened I'm not going to throw it on when I'm not in the mood because straight up, why, why would I? Sure. Why would I do that? Yeah. You put a little asterisk next to the, i I know thyself. Like I'm a,
01:25:32
Speaker
I understand me for the most part, which is pretty cool. Actually, I'll tell you guys, it's pretty cool. Do that on self be true, my friend. Yeah. Yeah. What he said. Yeah. yeah Ditto.
01:25:47
Speaker
All we are is dust in the wind, dude. Dust. Wind. Wind. Dude.
01:25:59
Speaker
dude
01:26:02
Speaker
yeah Well done. There it is. And that our episode. Every rose has its thorn.
01:26:13
Speaker
Anyway, please, please. You couldn't see it, but Tucker did the did the pose. um the The hand on the chest and the other one in the air. um Be excellent to each other is all I have to say about that.
01:26:26
Speaker
And ah but also, if you're thinking about it, party on, dudes. Might as well. Might as well. why why while we're While we're here thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. God, God, Stephen, God gave rock and roll to you.
01:26:43
Speaker
He put it in the souls of everyone. i free Everyone. Right. That's what I've heard. Yeah. Yeah. And also two heads? Better than one. don't know if you knew that. And while we're on the topic, I just, I feel like I need to say for the record, station.
01:26:59
Speaker
Station! Station! It's just where we are as a society right now. yeah and We need a station more than ever. Please do. Fun fact, that was my nickname in high school because I was also a large, hairy dude.
01:27:14
Speaker
And you had a magnificent butt? No, I don't think that was why. Please do not overlook my butt.
01:27:26
Speaker
Oh, and that our episode one. Okay, I'm just going to let Tucker keep riffing and we will not do socials. We'll just let Tucker keep quoting ah various lines from the various Bill and Ted films. This must be what you feel like when we're quoting Ghostbusters 2 all the time.
01:27:46
Speaker
Hey, then that's what I heard.
01:27:52
Speaker
That's another one of those fantastic 80-yard lines when you watch shit on cable. Yeah. no Yeah. No, like when I, the, the, the tape that I had, I think we taped it off network television and that joke just isn't in there. It's just not there.
01:28:07
Speaker
They cut around it Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. He just leaves and Venkman's like, I am going to miss him. I'm going to send him a nice fruit basket. Cowardice.
01:28:20
Speaker
Pure cowardice. ah This is our episode on 1993 is freaked. Did you like it? too Did you not like it? ah I don't know. You can let us know it. ah Disenfranched pot at gmail.com. Shoot us an email. We may read your thoughts. on the air, on the, on the episodes.
01:28:38
Speaker
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01:28:51
Speaker
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Audience Engagement Encouragement
01:29:08
Speaker
You can. ah I don't know for $5, get access to like tons of behind the scenes, including commentaries that we've actually recorded on movies like train to Busan and Adam's family values or, uh, like short films like the time Brett and I just decided to do the entire, uh, Bambi versus Godzilla franchise, uh, on a single recording. That was fun. Yeah. Christmas time. We did, uh, Muppet family Christmas. Yeah. christmas Yeah. yeah
01:29:37
Speaker
We also did, uh, that, um, That one weird little animated film, the name of which is escaping me right now, but I absolutely adored it. And Tucker was like, this kind of sucks.
01:29:49
Speaker
What was it? Double TF are you guys talking about? I don't know. that I think Tucker, we we asked Tucker about it later and he said he thought it sucked. He didn't he wasn't there with us when watched No, and he didn't he was not rejected. It's called Rejected by Don Hertzfeld.
01:30:04
Speaker
That's the one. I don't mean that at all. What's that? you you I think you watched it and listened to our recording at the same time you're like, well guys, I just don't get why you like this. And it's animated? left Yes.
01:30:18
Speaker
It's a very, very fun little film. I quite enjoyed it a lot. Oh, with the banana and the, yeah. I mean, whatever. Look, I'm not, I'm not going to yuck your yum, but it's not for me.
01:30:34
Speaker
Basically, Tucker, what you're saying right now is. I was wrong. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty um Or for free, you can join the official conversation of the disenfranchised podcast. ah Leave a leave a comment. Tucker or I generally will respond. Mostly Tucker. Let's be real.
01:30:51
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um And yeah, you can talk to us directly. Get these main feed episodes directly on your feed and spend absolutely. zero dollars to do it zero dollars either way we completely appreciate it and while you're on the internet if you want to continue spending zero dollars to support us uh leave us a five-star rating and review on apple podcast spotify wherever you get your podcast that goes a long way to helping us find more people like you and we think you're pretty cool so people like you probably also pretty cool let them let them find us also if i if i could interject just uh very quickly whatever you
01:31:25
Speaker
whatever service you use to listen to our podcast, apparently there, there are, we have about 40 subscribers on YouTube now. So there is, ah that's about a third of our audience. So um anybody that's experiencing our podcast anywhere, leave some comments there and let us know like ah what, just let us know you're there.
01:31:49
Speaker
Engage with the material guys. Yes. It helps out quite a bit. Because we'd like to have you on the Patreon, but anywhere is fine. Yeah, really. i check all that stuff.
01:32:02
Speaker
He does. Yeah, I got apps that give me notifications and she's kind of insane with the metrics. Let's be honest. If you if if you're leaving a comment somewhere, I will I'll know about it pretty quickly. So don't don't hesitate if you're not listening on the Patreon.
01:32:19
Speaker
not to leave a comment or something that we would, the official conversation as Steven said is on the Patreon. Sorry for the rabbit trail there, Steven. I just wanted to clarify that we're not against comments anywhere else. It's just the official combo. That is the official. there Tucker will most likely engage with you wherever you leave those comments, unless it's blue sky, in which case it'll be me.
01:32:41
Speaker
Um, here you go let's be real. You're not on blue sky. but Yes, I'm glad that we're being real, Stephen. i don't want to i i want to maintain the integrity of the pod here. And and while we're being real, i was i was, in fact, the social media manager for Tuck Mugs for the first couple years. That was me. That was me.
01:33:02
Speaker
Okay. All right. It's out. can't do anything about it. I can't do anything. We're being real. We're just being real right now. It's not like I can go back and like completely take that entire part out. Like my hands are tied. What am supposed to do? Yeah. What? What are you? out there now No, absolutely not.
01:33:17
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Right. I don't have time for that shit. you kidding? Yeah. It's like you you, you're not going to be combing through this episode, finding every instance of words like. what Look. Oh, you bastard. Look, I work in a in a. And it's. between Thanksgiving and Christmas. So sure boy, sure boy don't have shit for anything type or anything. I also have time worship. Let's be go like let's be real. My colon is very neglected these days. Like normally I'm a morning shitter, but it's like not until maybe noon or two o'clock before I'm like, Oh, yeah.
01:33:52
Speaker
yeah I'm not a fan of that. Also not editing that out up there festering. Yeah. It's the worst. And like the bathroom is like it's a big bathroom and lots of stalls. So like there's never like truly any privacy. The echoes and the echoes.
01:34:08
Speaker
And like the other day I was like, you know what? I'm just going to like roll up in there 10 minutes early and hit a toilet. So like, you know, I'm not even worrying about it. No, all stalls were taken.
01:34:20
Speaker
Oh, that sucks. And i was like, great. I'm just standing here 15 minutes to work and nowhere to shit. Fantastic. Just prairie dogging in the work bathroom. This is definitely going to be a talking point in the show notes for sure. so Please, please.
01:34:38
Speaker
Glad I work from home. My toilet is never full. I'm so jealous. That is, that is nice work. If you can get it, Brett, um you can, at while we're on the subject of, you know, shitty things online, you can, you can follow me on blue sky or letterboxd at chewy walrus, me, Stephen Foxworthy, your host, Brett, anywhere we can find you on socials these days.
01:35:02
Speaker
Nope. Awesome. Love it. Tucker, what about you?
The Kitchen: Social Hub
01:35:07
Speaker
I'm on Instagrams and YouTubes at Ice909. That's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero and the number nine. I would like to announce i would like to announce to um everybody who listens or anybody, not everybody, more like anybody who listens to my music on the YouTubes. It's a handful of folks.
01:35:28
Speaker
I know I've been talking about Christmas spaghetti for years. You have. i wish this were the year. I really do. But as we talked about before, you don't have time for shit and shit for time.
01:35:44
Speaker
I don't even have time to shit. I know. That's what I'm telling you right now. Today. i had a day off today, Steven, and it was the best day I've had in probably a month.
01:35:56
Speaker
I love that for you. I had such a great time today. i woke up at nine 30 in the morning, Steven. Oh, Tucker. You know what time I normally get up?
01:36:07
Speaker
Earlier than that? Five o'clock. That's insane. I hate that for you. Weekday, weekend, doesn't matter. Yeah.
01:36:18
Speaker
But this morning, 930, got up. I spent most of the day in the kitchen, which is, you guys, the kitchen is where it's at. Kitchen is where at. You get speaker in there. You get one of those kitchens where you've got some room to move around, maybe a small table by a window.
01:36:36
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kitchen is my favorite room in the house. I am mean, that's to be me like this week because we're in we're in the Thanksgiving time. I'm going to be doing tons of kitchen work, and I kind of love it. I'm kind of looking forward to it. That's me year-round, Steven. I'm only about 6% Italian, but I run an Italian kitchen.
01:36:57
Speaker
Like, we're going to have some music on, and anybody that's in there, we're going to be loud and talking over each other. And we're going to be laughing about three times louder than we talk in. And Steven, once I, once I secure.
01:37:13
Speaker
a place of my, I, ah my own here. I want both of you boys to come by and experience my kitchen because you sure it's, it's the place to be.
01:37:24
Speaker
You're hanging out in my kitchen. You're having a good time. We could record an entire episode of this podcast ah from your new kitchen. I would love to do like maybe bi-monthly.
01:37:35
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live from Tukey's Kitchen disenfranchised episodes, oh, be fantastic. I'd be making us something awesome, you know, or one of us even like you guys, I'm sure have specialties that, you know, you cook or prepare. We're all good cooks. i I was going to say, yeah, yeah we we we do enjoy the cooking for sure.
01:37:55
Speaker
Yes. Oh, that sounds fantastic. That that's ah I'm going to go ahead and put my, application in for a VA loan tomorrow for them that though the house I was into the railroad bought it there was this house on bluff where I was like oh that's I like that house it's all brick and you know it's by the railroad tracks but also you can see some factories in the distance but I know right where that is yes just a little bit south of that bridge the interstate bridge that goes over bluff just a little bit south there um
01:38:28
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um I could say the exact address, but I'm not going to on Mike. But I've been following the property card on that on the the city government websites for months.
01:38:40
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And a couple weeks ago, it was in a trust for months. And I was like, okay, it's in a trust. Somebody died. So eventually it's going to be for sale. No, railroad bought it.
01:38:51
Speaker
About two weeks ago, motherfucking railroad bought it. Dang old railroad buying up all our land. They took our land! now I mean, the tracks are near there, but they don't need another rail yard.
01:39:03
Speaker
Man, there's one, like, not even a mile and a half north of there. There's a whole ass railroad yard there. Ugh.
01:39:15
Speaker
And it's going to be bigger now. I guess... All right. Address in the chat. Oh, there it is.
01:39:27
Speaker
I could look that up on Google Maps right now. o had a fantastic deck in the back. And you know what is drew me very close to where my parents are right now? It was an old school old school smokestack in the back.
01:39:41
Speaker
Hmm. Those old brick smokestacks we used to have in like the 70s and 80s. And you had one at your school. You had a smokestack at your school for some reason. Sure. I did. I went to IPS 34. That was a fucking smokestack there when I went there.
01:39:54
Speaker
Sounds about right. And um ah I've just been drawn to it ever since I came back to Indy. I go up to Bluff. I take i from Fountain Square to the Perry Meridian area. I take Bluff.
01:40:08
Speaker
Every day. For months. I pass that house in the dark. And I pass it when the sun is out. And I fell in love with it. And i think i think I kind of... I'm just really disappointed that I don't even have a chance.
01:40:26
Speaker
The railroad just bought it And they're just going to 1955 this house was built. That's not even 100 years ago. And they're just gonna tear it down. It's alright, man. It wasn't meant to be. That's not, you know, you'll find. Well, I'm looking at a smokestack, Brett. You what you might somewhere. i don't fucking know.
01:40:42
Speaker
Fucking build your own smokestack, bitch. You could. No, I want an old one. Just stress it. with black You want that house to have ghosts? Ghosts. I want smokestack. The reason I wanted this house is because it had... I'm a i'm a man of many places. like I'm a city boy, and I'm a city mouse and a country mouse, you know and everything in between.
01:41:08
Speaker
And that house on Bluff was perfect because it is... I mean, you got fields and forest around you, but also you have factories and railroad tracks and a busy road. It's it's really everything all at once in one place. And the interstate's right there.
01:41:26
Speaker
If you look north from that house, you can just watch the interstate. If you look west from that house, you can watch factories and railroads. If you look south or east, you can see trees and cornfields.
01:41:37
Speaker
Like, it's... It's everything, ever everywhere all at once. and what just describe You just described the south side of Indianapolis. That was that was the peak. that was That was it right there. And you could still, like, in the middle of the night when Bluff isn't busy, you could still probably step out in the middle of the road and see downtown from there.
01:42:01
Speaker
You get a view of the city. You get those you see those skyscrapers. Boy, that's that's why I take Bluff. I could take Meridian. I could take Madison. But no, I take Bluff because the whole way down, you've got a view of the skyline.
01:42:15
Speaker
Pretty much of downtown. Anyway, let's wrap this shit up. ah that That is our episode on 1993's Freak. To join us next week, we'll be back with something else, talking about some other shit. ah But until then, for ah for the very present, Brett Wright, we love you. We love you, buddy.
01:42:37
Speaker
It's been good to have you on. It's good to be here. It's good to be here. And for the ubiquitous Tucker, I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. Until next time, ah we're we're all just a bunch of hideous mutant freaks. What what do you want?
01:42:49
Speaker
I hate macaroons. Styrofoam cup.