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253 - My Boyfriend’s Back (1993) (Straight Up 010) w/ J.P. Leck
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“Just because I crawled out of the grave doesn't make me a freaking zombie!”
We're back on that Straight Up vibe with a film crew (at long last!) and our good pal J.P Leck to discuss our second-ever Bob Balaban film! We're talking about Tucker's enduring love of Mary Beth Hurt, the late, great Philip Seymour Hoffman, and we even hear from a special guest with an instrumental role in why we're covering this film at all!
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Transcript
Failed Franchise Films
00:00:05
Speaker
What's wrong with you man? Get the other record.
Host Introductions
00:00:12
Speaker
Damn. Stream
00:00:54
Speaker
Break out the torches.
Brett's Return
00:00:55
Speaker
It's time for a zombie barbecue with the disenfranchised podcast. That's right. We're that podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
00:01:08
Speaker
I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy, and joining me as always, our resident sneaky dead Yahoo toucher. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hello, Steven. What do you suppose Philip Seymour Hoffman was really saying? Because he's not saying Yahoo Toucher.
00:01:22
Speaker
Nope, sure isn't. you watched his lips. No, no. Yeah, absolutely. I did. The majority of his performances is is ah dubbed. ADR. Yeah, absolutely.
00:01:33
Speaker
We'll get into it for sure. Yeah. Anyway, yeah I'm doing great, Steven.
Fan Engagement and Brett's Commitment
00:01:37
Speaker
Doing great. Also joining us this week, ah don't call it a comeback. Look, um he's been gone for a while, and that's that's because he's dead, which is unusual, because we don't normally see so much activity out of someone who's been dead this long.
00:01:50
Speaker
ah Our Brett friend's back, everybody. It's Brett Wright. Hey, Brett. yeah Hello, Steven. There it is. How are we doing, buddy? yeah doing all right, man.
00:02:01
Speaker
I'm doing all right. How are you? Good to have you here. I'm doing great, man. I'm better that you're here, honestly.
Reintroducing Guest J.P. Lack
00:02:07
Speaker
Well, thanks. I'm sure a lot been a lot of people have it. We have one very intent fan that wants to be here.
00:02:13
Speaker
Every week. And you you just keep letting that fan down. I know. Well, look. Look, I'm here. I'm here now. You are. and you You're here now, and that covers a multitude of sins. So we are, always...
00:02:26
Speaker
always So glad to have you here. But also here, in addition Tucker and Brett, we also have back our most recent guest, who is also our very first guest on this podcast, all the way back for Space Truckers in the year of our Lord 2021.
J.P. Lack's Work and Podcast Experience
00:02:46
Speaker
That's a movie you forgot we covered.
00:02:48
Speaker
And i'm pretty sure he forgot that he covered it with us as well. ah It is The Mastermind. Yes, ironic. the mastermind of the endless elsewhere and the director of circle city supernatural two starring won't All four of us, actually?
00:03:05
Speaker
um It is. The great J.P. Lack. Joseph, how are you today, sir? Gentlemen, I am very well. Thank you for having me back. I didn't hate being called the great.
00:03:17
Speaker
That was okay. i I didn't figure you would. i mean, few among us really mind, let's be clear. No, it's lovely to be back. How are you guys doing?
00:03:28
Speaker
ah Doing great. Doing great again. Really, really great that you're here. Haven't had you on in a hot minute. So we figured you've got something to promote. We like having you on this podcast.
00:03:39
Speaker
it's It's synergistic, frankly. Absolutely. And Brett, I assume, is always here, right?
Introducing 'My Boyfriend's Back'
00:03:46
Speaker
Yeah. We'll go with Last time I was here, which was a while ago. I just assume he's been here the whole time, right?
00:03:53
Speaker
Yeah. Brett's been here the whole time. Yes. Yes, I have. and And Brett, what do you what do you think of that bit? Tucker, that's your to play it. Well, I was coughing and turning microphone back on. It's great. No, it's too late. missed You missed it.
00:04:10
Speaker
It's fine. It's late now. I would have had to cut it in later anyway. It doesn't record the And Brett, what do you think of that bit? Is he going to say it or am I going to push button? you're going to push the button, damn it.
00:04:22
Speaker
I have to do the time code. Do it again. Set it up again. Third time's the charm, apparently. he's i'm not I'm not behind the soundboard today, if you can't tell.
00:04:33
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um And Brett, what do you think of that bit? Fucking stupid. There it is. Oh, darn it. Language, young man. disagree. Calm down, Brett, with myself.
00:04:46
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I don't agree with myself at all. That's past Brett. You've grown since then. Yes, i have.
00:04:57
Speaker
Anyway, this is ah um all that to get to.
Film Choice and Halloween Connection
00:05:01
Speaker
This is not one of our regular regularly scheduled episodes because sometimes we're not a podcast all about those franchises of one, those films that fancy themselves full-fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
00:05:13
Speaker
Sometimes. We let Tucker do whatever the hell he wants as a condition of his friendship. And so this is one of those times where we just hand the reins over to Tucker and say, here, Tucker, you pick what movie we're covering this week. Format be damned.
00:05:29
Speaker
And so, Tucker, what movie are we covering tonight per your mandate?
Film Details and Cast
00:05:34
Speaker
Tonight, we are covering ah Bob Balaban's My boyfriend's back.
00:05:43
Speaker
If you will remember previously, we covered parents on, uh, straight up. So I figured, you know, it would be, it would be good to keep going on this path for the two films of his that I really liked. So end of series after this.
00:06:00
Speaker
nineteen ninety three s My Boyfriend's Back, directed by Bob Balaban, written by Dean Lorian, produced by Sean S. Cunningham. Yes, that Sean S. Cunningham.
00:06:11
Speaker
And starring Andrew Lowry, Tracy Lind, Danny Zorn, Edward Herman, the great Edward Herman, ah the great Mary Beth Hurt, the great J.O. Sanders, Libby Valari, Matthew Fox, the great Philip Hoffman. Yeah, dude.
Digital vs. Physical Media Debate
00:06:30
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eschewing his middle name this early in his career ah the great paul dooley the great austin pendleton oh yeah great cloris leachman bob dishi paxton whitehead and holy cow is that matthew mcconaughey what a cast dare i say what a picture Yeah, dude.
00:06:52
Speaker
It's real, real good. It's real, real, real, real good. It's all right. Real, real good. What? i will say I was pleasantly surprised. Right. but did What did you all not like parents?
00:07:05
Speaker
No, parents was all right. i' see I mean, it's different. It's a lot different, but I could see ah both of the characters played by Mary Beth Hurt being related somehow.
00:07:16
Speaker
Absolutely. Like being cousins, maybe. Yeah. or Or sisters. Tucker, what is your what is your preference? Do you like My Boyfriend's Beck or Parents Better?
00:07:26
Speaker
Oh, it depends on the mood in. a two-way Tucker movie, so I was very curious last night thinking about it. I think that as a film, Parents is a better film.
00:07:37
Speaker
I think it's a more challenging film. Yeah. As far as like you really it's there's some stuff really some shit going on in that movie. Whereas my boyfriend's back is it's just kind of a silly movie, which I also dig.
00:07:51
Speaker
ah But I would say if I had a gun to my head, if I had to choose one or the other, it would be parents. But I like them pretty much the same. It's just they're so different. It's hard to compare them. Got it. Okay. and And this one even like and I was thinking about this um the other night when I was watching this that. um This one's like if Bob Balaban did Parents and he was like, okay, that was cool, but now I want to make a Joe Dante movie.
00:08:17
Speaker
and I can see Joe Dante du direct. In fact, Joe Dante tried to direct something like this with Burying the Axe, which is not good. It's one of two Joe Dante movies that I just do not care for, frankly. Sometimes, you know, even the greats like Joe Dante, they got hits and they got misses.
00:08:38
Speaker
Anybody seen Bruiser? Come on. Nobody wants to watch that. Missed Bruiser. Missed it entirely. Is it as bad as Survival of the Dead? Almost. um Yeah, they're they're pretty close.
00:08:50
Speaker
Survival of the Dead is pretty awful. As someone who watched that earlier this year for for the Pot and the Pendulum, icky, icky, gross. You poor, poor man.
00:09:01
Speaker
Well, at least Bruiser had the misfits in it, right? Weren't they aren they the band playing at the... Wasn't that... where Was the misfits in the Bruiser... and bruiser Refresh me. Yes. Yes, they were. it was And it was post-Danzig Misfits 2. Michael Graves Misfits. Michael Graves, yeah. ah hot Hot take. um I prefer Michael Graves to go to Danzig.
00:09:24
Speaker
Sorry. I'm sorry. American
Tucker's Movie History and Reflections
00:09:26
Speaker
Psycho is their best record. Sorry.
00:09:30
Speaker
no The kind of hot takes you can only hear here on the Disenfranchised Podcast. Hear, hear.
00:09:38
Speaker
Cheers. Because you can only hear it here. Here. You can only hear here. here here Here. yeah Here.
00:09:48
Speaker
Here. No. Anyway. um joseph is Joseph, what is your, have i'm I'm assuming this is, you've known Tucker for a long time. Is this a movie that you've seen before? ah Has Tucker forced you to watch this prior to this viewing or is this a first time watch for you?
00:10:06
Speaker
So this movie is a little special in that my beloved bride, Lindsay actually recommended this to our good friend, Tucker, many a year ago. um he can probably tell you how it was, it hasn't been that long. Okay.
00:10:20
Speaker
yeah Um, she loved it in Irvington. Yes. It was okay. That's yeah. That's going way back. So she introduced me to it as well and tells me that we watch it together. I had not a single,
00:10:34
Speaker
memory of this movie so watching it the other night it was like watching it for the first time oh that's so special it was it was movie she loves movie he loves and dare i say i loved it too it was pretty dang good i liked it a lot it was it was very in the lead and it was so much fun like yes we'll skip right to the end i liked it a lot it was the end and sign off goodbye goodbye thank you all for joining us enjoyed it very much yes Yes, I do. Actually, um well so you Yeah, Tucker, you probably know the story. You probably remember better than I do.
Podcast Format and Memories
00:11:10
Speaker
If there is even a story there. Other than, hey, you should watch this movie. The story is essentially, yes, um when Lindsay's movie collection, which is vast like the ocean, or at least it used used to be. Yes. I don't know if it still I've borne witness.
00:11:29
Speaker
Can't attest. Of VHS's, More VHS tapes than I've ever seen in my life. Except outside of like a blockbuster video. Yes. um But that DVD was was in the collection. When it merged...
00:11:44
Speaker
ah with Joe's I had a bit of a perusal through it and i I was interested in that cover and we discussed it for a bit and I decided i decided that I would borrow it for 20 years yes when when when did we get this back A couple years ago. you You lived in like three different states and I didn't didn't even remember lending this to you.
00:12:09
Speaker
And Lindsay's like, is that butthole you hang out with ever going to give me my boyfriend's back? I think I lived five different states having that. And was like, ever going to give you your what back? She's like, the what? i was like, but yes.
00:12:23
Speaker
I don't remember when did we actually get this back from you? ah I didn't know we still had this until the other night when she went digging for it because we thought we were going to like rent it on Prime or something. But no, we still it. what i had to do You could have just watched my voodoo, you guys. You never ask.
00:12:37
Speaker
I don't have access to your voodoo anymore, Tucker. We went through this a few weeks ago. Oh, shit, a du shit a duck. I forgot. yeah I was supposed to sign you in. Remind me of that ah tomorrow sometime. I'm off work tomorrow.
00:12:49
Speaker
Okay. Well, I'm not, so. Yeah, well, yeah, but. But yeah, well, yeah, do it anyway. um But so I gave it back to you a couple of years ago whenever Shout Factory released the Blu-ray.
00:13:02
Speaker
OK, I was like, I'll buy that Blu-ray and then I can just give them back their DVD. And so I did because that's what was keeping you from giving it back. You needed your own copy first.
00:13:13
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Yeah, it was really hot out of obligation for a while. She loved it. He's like he held a hostage until he got his replacement copy. And there was no other way to watch it. It wasn't really on streaming.
00:13:24
Speaker
And it but still isn't. It's yeah yeah pretty rare. How much did have to pay to rent it, Stephen, just out of curiosity? Like $4. That much? Okay. that's See, that's a shame
Film Quality Discussion and Comparisons
00:13:36
Speaker
because it's on sale on Voodoo right now for $5. You could have owned it for one more dollar.
00:13:41
Speaker
I'm okay. I really like to buy digital movies. correct Correct. That's too bad. i hate watching. I'm going to buy. If I'm going to purchase a movie, I'm purchasing it on physical media. going to buy it on physical media.
00:13:53
Speaker
Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Well, I already own it on physical media, but I also want the convenience of watching it digitally. Good for you. Is that so wrong? Yes. It is a mortal sin. How fucking dare you?
00:14:06
Speaker
know so all the all my blu rayys All my Blu-rays are in storage. So yeah, last week I was like, oh man, I can't believe have to rent this for $4. And i was like, oh shit, it's only $5 to buy this sucker?
00:14:21
Speaker
And so yeah, I bought it. So a voodoo. So is Bottoms now, by the way. If any of you haven't seen Bottoms, it's on website. Oh, we've absolutely seen Bottoms. Bottoms is a hoot. Good. I watched that on the other saying your recommendation.
00:14:33
Speaker
I bought it the other night because it was $7 on Vudu and they took it off Prime. So I couldn't watch it on something i already had. So I was like, you know, I already decided I was going to watch it. So I'm just going to buy it.
00:14:46
Speaker
And you'll be able to watch it until their licensing runs out and they take it away and you just flushed $8 down the toilet. I... um So ah I have this thing called Movies Anywhere and it connects all of my accounts where I can rent or buy movies. So everything...
00:15:05
Speaker
goes across If I buy it on one service, I also own it on all the other services. So all of those services would have to die. Basically, the entire and and ah internet would have to collapse for my digital movie collection to go away.
00:15:18
Speaker
I mean, I hate to be the one to tell you, but buckle up. That's a whole lot of hubris. 75% of those films. Is that a fall I see on the horizon? wait oh God willing, the internet collapses any now.
00:15:33
Speaker
Any day, just please end it all. I'd also like to say that 75% of my digital collection I own physically. So... Wow.
00:15:44
Speaker
That's what we've been saying. like You took this like staunch digital stance when you own just as much physical media as we do. now hi ah i know I agree with you guys that it is riskier to buy digital films, but I also think that um the discourse about...
00:16:05
Speaker
like you know, it not being available anymore. I think it's way overblown. That's never happened to me. That's never happened to anybody that I know or any time that I've known of.
00:16:16
Speaker
Do I agree that could happen? Yes. But I think that people are being a little too paranoid about that. It happened to my partner. One of her favorite movies all time. She bought digitally and they took the licensing away.
00:16:27
Speaker
I'm just saying. Wow. five post Wow, Tucker, Jesus Christ. Asshole. Is it always this contentious? feel like should stay in the room while you guys sort this out.
00:16:39
Speaker
and No, actually, this this really, Joseph, this only really happens when you're here. I don't know why. i think Tucker's just showing off his old friend and his new friends. It's this whole... It's a weird code switch. I tried to keep fire, but I'm having the opposite effect. Sorry.
00:16:56
Speaker
am anymore. That's usually what I'm doing. I'm trying to unify the two of these guys and I i can't even do it. You're here every week doing that, right? Every week. You're every week doing that, right, Brad? Yes.
00:17:08
Speaker
Because I haven't been able to tune in as much the last time. Okay. yeah no i know and be with most of our You and most of our listenership, Joseph. ah yeah Hey, quickly before I forget, what was the movie that disappeared that she couldn't get back? I'm curious.
00:17:23
Speaker
Black Swan. Oh, Black Swan. Okay. Cheers. Thank you. know just ah One of her favorite films of all time, which we caught in IMAX this year for the fifteenth anniversary. Oh. What's the... Oh, 28 Days Later. 28 Days Later was not available anywhere.
00:17:39
Speaker
That is true. That is true. Until the new one came out, then somebody finally got it available. yeah Yeah. Yep. Yep.
Technical Issues in Film
00:17:46
Speaker
That is true. There's another... so Physical media, everybody. Buy it.
00:17:52
Speaker
Yes, it takes up space, and yes, it's a pain in the ass to move, but it's worth it. Also, if you want to buy digital movies, that's your prerogative, too. Just know that it is possible that they will go away.
00:18:04
Speaker
Is it likely? Eh. But is it possible? Yes. It's happened to me. It can happen to you. It can, but it hasn't. Just because it hasn't happened to you. Doesn't mean it can't happen. Yeah, man.
00:18:16
Speaker
Yeah, man. Well, luckily, I also have Don't Look in the Basement on DVD, so. Oh. And Tucker, get ready to push the button. ah Brett, how do you feel about people who put all their all their faith and hope in digital media?
00:18:30
Speaker
Fucking stupid. Oh, I'm inclined to agree. I just want you to know every time you do that, I have to write down the timestamp, and that's more weird for me. and I mean, since you're writing down a timestamp.
00:18:41
Speaker
Nope.
00:18:44
Speaker
I won't. You never let me have any fun. Nope. You never let me enjoy myself on this podcast, Tucker. You're done, Steven. You're done. Shut it down. Look, I got to side with Tucker on this one. As somebody, i don't think you've ever edited this podcast. I don't, I don't.
00:19:02
Speaker
As a fellow editor, once editor of this podcast. That is not true. I have edited this episode a few times when Tucker was unavailable to do so. And he said, I did. And I quote, a serviceable job.
00:19:15
Speaker
Well, yeah, because you got it out, and I appreciate that. Yep. Yep. You know what? My point still stands. I'm just saying. You can't say I've never edited it because it's not true.
Casual Anecdotes and Jokes
00:19:26
Speaker
you and a a I didn't say I did it well.
00:19:30
Speaker
Didn't say I did it well. Did not do it well. Look, you're technically correct. The best kind of correct. but Correct. Correct.
00:19:38
Speaker
Doesn't mean you're right. So Tucker, how did you- Introducing something, yes? i got at this point- We were in the way there, I think. We're 20 minutes into this thing, and we haven't even landed on a point, so- It's only been 20. Oh, feels like two hours. Sorry, go on. know. that's Welcome to my life. It'll be a long night, gentlemen.
00:20:00
Speaker
I may need to get another beer here before too long. ah So, Tucker, is there a story behind your first watch of this podcast? Or or is it just that Lindsay Lack, star of Circle City Supernatural 2, just said, hey, you should watch this movie?
00:20:14
Speaker
First watch of this movie. Steven said podcast. Yeah, that's it. First watch of this movie. We knew what he meant. We knew what he meant. You know what I meant. but like If we don't call it out, then how can we shame him? there's and there's Well, there's going to be people screaming at the...
00:20:28
Speaker
The few listeners go. What he meant. Come on. tell be Let's all be cordial to each other. We do love each other, right? like Most of us. I guess. You guys are all right. I don't mind hanging out, guess.
00:20:42
Speaker
Tucker, was there a ah story behind you watching it after Lindsay lent it to you? Well. I put it in the DVD player and I looked at it. if No, if there's not actually a story, don't force one.
00:20:55
Speaker
And that's the whole story. We don't have another 20 minutes to to blow on... The rest of the story. I know you know. The rest of the story. Stand by for news.
00:21:10
Speaker
Sorry, i go on. was there Was there anything to that? Was there an anecdote? No, I watched it and i thought it was real, real tight. That's what I thought. Good, beautiful, succinct. I love it. yeah That's what this podcast needs, more succinctness.
00:21:23
Speaker
That's what I've been saying for a long ass and shirt's like Brett's like, these episodes should be five minutes long tops. We come in, we say our names, we say what we thought of the movie, we get the fuck out of here.
00:21:35
Speaker
you're not you're You're not too wrong. Efficiency, gentlemen. Get in, get out. or nothing if I can't even spell efficiency, okay?
00:21:50
Speaker
I think i can. I technically can. i probably can if I tried. yeah i think i Anyway, my history with this movie, Stephen? Sure.
00:21:59
Speaker
ah Well done, Brett. but you know That question I ask you every week. because you're very weak and Right, that's how I know the format. I'm here every week. um i There's no history here, I'm sorry.
00:22:13
Speaker
This is my first watch of the film. Although I will say, i think this is one of those movies. I feel like it's one of those movies I saw on cable and bits and pieces all the time.
00:22:26
Speaker
So you haven't seen it fully until this time. Okay. Exactly. Exactly. Steven, had you seen it before? I had i had not. i However, I vividly remember the marketing campaign for this movie. um i i like I remember seeing posters for it in the newspaper. Remember print media?
00:22:43
Speaker
i do. I remember seeing the trailers on the television ah back when they used to air you know movie trailers. On TV in between, ah you know, commercial in in commercial breaks during commercial breaks.
00:22:56
Speaker
um Like I remember the ad campaign for this movie, ah which is bizarre because it doesn't look like this movie had even at its widest. It didn't crack the top 20, which is insane to me.
00:23:08
Speaker
Do you guys remember when they used to put the TV listings in the paper? Like, unless you bought TV Guide, you didn't know what the fuck's on TV unless you bought the paper? yep Sure. And the movie showtimes were in the paper, too. Yep. Yep.
00:23:22
Speaker
Yeah. We get the paper. If we're very old, we are, in fact, very old. You had to call Mr. Movie Phone. The Movie Phone. oh even Even before Movie Phone, I remember cracking open the newspaper and checking the showtimes there in the Indianapolis Star.
00:23:37
Speaker
Wow. You guys remember when the picture would flip your window and you have take the little thing off its foot and read the movie times? I was the picture. You guys remember you have to go down to the the Morris code station. They'd telegraph the, the moving picture times to you.
00:23:52
Speaker
No, the movie I always wanted to see, but I never saw was stop. That movie sounded so good. Okay. Telegraph jokes. We got to appreciate that a little bit. That's a really fucking good joke, Steve. God damn it. Thank you.
00:24:10
Speaker
It's the highlight of the night. was set out of time. Telegraph jokes. That's why we're here. That's
00:24:24
Speaker
it. I'm sorry, Tucker, you were saying. I was just going to say, I remember um as a young hood rat, um just going to the theater and seeing what was playing, what was starting soon.
00:24:38
Speaker
Yeah, you would pull up to the ticket box and sit there from your car window and try to read the times. I remember doing that, yeah. Or if you were at the Circle Center Mall, you'd go up to the glorious third floor, fourth floor, sorry, and go to the circular kiosk and walk around it so you could see all the movie times.
00:24:56
Speaker
Yeah, those were the RIP. I think they closed that down just earlier this year. Maybe it last year, I think. Turning it into apartment buildings. Is that what they're doing? I knew they were going to tear it down and do something with them yay no them.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yay. I guess people need places to live more than they need places to see movies these days. Oh, poppycock. Steven, don't say that as if anybody could ever afford to live in what those apartments are going to be. Touché. Central Indianapolis, downtown, those things are going to be at least a thousand for a studio.
00:25:31
Speaker
You right, you right. That's all? I forgot, you guys are used to Indiana prices. yeah that's like I was going to say, a thousand for a studio sounds great. That sounds really good.
00:25:41
Speaker
for For the guy just outside of Chicago, right? As a well-traveled man. That sounds fantastic.
00:25:51
Speaker
I just happen to know someone in New Hampshire in a small town living in a studio, dinky studio apartment above a theater that pays about $1,800 a month. An apartment. and So I happen to hate this person. So I'm glad he pays this much.
00:26:07
Speaker
Okay. wish he paid more actually. So say we all. Yeah. Yeah. and ah so So, Tucker, there's john mueller's why... Sure.
00:26:23
Speaker
ah So, Tucker, why this movie? Why this movie? Why tonight? Gosh, well, gosh, Steven, just because I like a lot. And, um well, here's the genesis of this episode, really.
00:26:34
Speaker
Steven had said to me a couple months ago, hey, you know you got it straight up in October, right? And I was like, oh, word? And he was like, word. And I was like, well, I better figure out something for us to watch in the straight up. And he was like, yeah, you should. And I was like, oh, I got it. And it was this movie.
00:26:49
Speaker
Oh. That's it. ye And I think I also said something you along the lines of, you we should probably have Joseph back since he's got a movie it coming out in October. And you were like, I know, we'll talk about this movie and have him on the movie.
00:27:03
Speaker
i was like, ew, why? And then I remember the connection and I was like, all right. guess. ah yeah Again? Yeah, this guy, again. This guy. ah it's it No, I just I really like this movie. And like I said, we did parents and I'm really passionate about that movie.
00:27:21
Speaker
And though, like I say, I don't think this movie is as good as parents. It's really, really fun. And I have such a good time watching it. I mean, the jokes that land are hilarious and the jokes that don't are so bad. They just kind of go back to being funny because of how bad they are.
00:27:40
Speaker
And it's just, I really love the tone of it. I mean, it's I love the world that they live in where like nothing is really that crazy. Like so many crazy things happen in this movie and people are just like, oh, that sucks, but whatever.
00:27:56
Speaker
I mean, they recognize that it's a crazy thing, but no one reacts to any of the crazy shit that happens in this movie appropriately. Right. At all. Everyone's like, oh, that guy's dead. I guess that's fine. It's a normal thing that happens all the time.
00:28:11
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When he comes back and his mom says, oh, are you hungry? We have a lot of food left over from the funeral.
00:28:21
Speaker
Because he's dead. right And I just I don't know There's a there's kind of an old timey wholesomeness to this movie, even though it's weird because the subject matter can get very dark. But because of how, like, wholesome and silly this movie is, it doesn't feel that dark.
00:28:40
Speaker
Well, just like Parents, this is 50s pastiche. like It's a pastiche horror comedy. And that seems to be like... I've not seen his third theatrical feature, the Last Good Time, which is his final theatrical film.
00:28:54
Speaker
um But, I mean, if these two films are any indication, like he loves that kind of 50s aesthetic. He really enjoys kind of the goofy, like, the sinister wholesomeness. It's that kind of that... What...
00:29:08
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David Lynch was doing in Blue Velvet, that kind of like sinisterness that lies underneath the veneer of like the wholesome suburban aesthetic. um And it it feels very much a part of that. Although this is far, far sillier than than parents was to. Yes, I think parents was a horror comedy and my boyfriend's back is a comedy horror.
00:29:32
Speaker
Agreed. Yep. That sounds right. Yeah. And Mary Beth Hurt is fantastic in both, as I mentioned before. Gosh. Yes. Gosh, I really like her a lot in everything. She's even in Bringing Out the Dead. She's probably probably my second favorite character in Martin Scorsese's Bringing Out the Dead.
00:29:50
Speaker
She's the the nurse that is in charge of the emergency room, and she is a sassy broad. I'll tell you what. She's also in Martin Scorsese's Age of Innocence as well. so Oh, word. I haven't seen that one.
00:30:03
Speaker
I'm going have since I know she's in it. There you go. And also the great Daniel Day-Lewis is in that as well. so And we love that guy. i Yeah, I recognize that he's good, but I don't really care that much.
00:30:20
Speaker
I shun you, sir. Who was she in Parents? Was she the... She's the mom. Was she the mom again? One of the titular parents, yeah. That's one I haven't seen in quite a while.
00:30:31
Speaker
Mary Beth Hurt is such a chameleon and such a fantastic fantastic actress that I feel differently about her in every movie that I watch. like Even like physically, like like I am attracted to her in Parents. Like...
00:30:46
Speaker
boy She wears those sleeveless blouses and parents. I'm like, damn, Mary Beth Hurt, what you doing to me right now? But I don't feel that way about her in any other movie because each of her characters are so different.
00:30:59
Speaker
So different. And I don't know, she's one of those actors that doesn't only um say the words right, they to physically embody their characters. Like the mom from parents and the mom from my boyfriend's back move completely differently. Their physicality is, they walk differently. Everything about them is different.
00:31:23
Speaker
And I appreciate a a performer who can who can do that ah well. Mahershali is another one that I've seen do that very, very well in in the same ah piece of media, like changing a character over 50 years and making it believable.
00:31:41
Speaker
A true detective season three, you guys, I'm telling you who him and Stephen Dorff. You love that guy. I do. He's great. And I love their friendship in it.
00:31:53
Speaker
Because it's not like it's not pandering. Because, you know, it's a black guy and a white guy. But it's not pandering. like they They're best friends, but they're still assholes to each other. And they still recognize that they are ah two different races in a part of the country where that really fucking matters.
00:32:10
Speaker
And it's just a really good watch. True Detective Season 3. But also, My Boyfriend's Back is really good. And I love Mary Beth Hurt. The end.
00:32:19
Speaker
Well, thank you for joining us. This is Man of Franchise Podcast. Transition, didn't I? Nailed it. Brett's like, we've been going longer than five minutes. Time to land this plane. Tick buddy. Tick tock.
00:32:34
Speaker
Time is money. Gentlemen, let's keep it moving. Mine is money.
00:32:42
Speaker
So I'm kind of at a loss as to where to start with this movie outside of just like picking out a few performers. you know When I was watching this movie. No, you go ahead, please. No. i Tucker, this is your episode.
00:32:56
Speaker
You go ahead. I'm just saying we used to we used to have a little bit of structure on this show. And and after we talked about ah ah what our our histories were with the film, you know, eventually we'd get to a segment that we like to call the plot in 60 seconds, which I always liked.
00:33:12
Speaker
I just thought that was really fun. But at one point, you're still doing that. This is my fault because there were a couple of times when Steven and I were just doing some episodes. We were just trying to get through movies we did not like and did not want to talk to. And i was like, what if we just skipped it?
00:33:27
Speaker
And we did that like twice. And then now we just never do it. And it makes me sad. That we set. And yeah it is. No, I think who's had to do that several times. Wonderful decision.
00:33:39
Speaker
I was going to bring it back this episode since I'm in charge. Well, oh then then go ahead. it's since you're Since you're bringing it back, I'm assuming that means you're volunteering to do the plot 60. No, I was going to have Joe do it since he's the guest.
00:33:54
Speaker
You can't spring that on someone live on the air. That's notoriously a bad thing to do. Brett, what have you happened to this show? Look, I'm here every week. What are you talking about, Joseph?
00:34:09
Speaker
Every week. Brett's been an active part of all of these decisions. I have. I feel like he's really let it go. he just used to have the reins held tight on this show, but it's all loosey-goosey now. Everybody's doing whatever they want.
00:34:23
Speaker
That's what happens when you add Tucker to an equation, which, as I recall, Joseph, was your idea. fault. have take responsibility for that.
00:34:33
Speaker
yeah i'm like isn' like I will be honest. If Tucker had not joined the podcast when he did, the podcast would not still be going. That I can pretty much assure you. Oh, wow. For various reasons. It probably would not still be here if Tucker had not joined when he did. Tucker is the lifeblood. Tucker is the heart of his all.
00:34:50
Speaker
He is the glue that holds us together against our will. Yeah. He's crying. know oh cra i want to all Tucker, come on. be he um they don't they don't want to They don't want to quit because they think they will make me sad, I think is what it is.
00:35:07
Speaker
Oh, okay. We'll just keep it going. He seems to really get a lot of joy out of us. He's a producer and all that. but He's having so much fun. We don't want to take it away from him. Look at him go.
00:35:21
Speaker
The special, special boy. Look at him go. At some point, they're going to be like AI generated. And when they get on here just to keep Justin entertained. like If you need AI to bring me on every week, that's fine. um feel like i feel like I will never consider that.
00:35:37
Speaker
Well, I was going to say, i would normally say no. But look, we have over 250 episodes and we feed that into the AI. I think it could get you guys down pretty well. Yeah.
00:35:49
Speaker
Because all it would do is basically... we're just talking about replacing me. What do you mean? Oh, no. I would say something... That's never been Tucker's endgame. And then Steven would be like, well, ah life found a way. And, yeah, that would be his response as everything. As life is want to do.
00:36:08
Speaker
And then he would say that.
00:36:12
Speaker
Only he would sound like it would be uncanny valley. His voice would be like Val Kilmer's fake voice. Do you guys see that documentary Val? haven't seen it yet. So he got throat cancer, so he can't talk anymore. Well, he's dead now, but before he died, he had throat cancer and he couldn't talk.
00:36:29
Speaker
So this audio company took like all of the dialogue from all of his movies and fed it into this computer and made him his voice. And so he would type things or whatever, and his computer would say the things in his voice.
00:36:45
Speaker
And it was really interesting. yeah It's kind of... AI can be used for good. Yes, but at what cost? Nobody else usually does. But at what cost? well Sure.
00:36:58
Speaker
Sure, sure. yeah But just know this, AI overlords, gosh, we sure think you're cool even now. So when you take over... Don't listen to our episode on the movie, or afraid. that Don't listen to that episode.
00:37:13
Speaker
Oh, I liked that movie. Remember how like surprisingly good it was? No, if I recall, I hated it. I thought it was pretty alright. you see that one, Joe? I think that movie was bad.
00:37:27
Speaker
Did you see that one, Joe? Did you see Afraid? saw it somewhere, but did not watch it. You're okay. I did not think I would be interested in it, but I found it to be a brief and enjoyable experience.
00:37:44
Speaker
It was brief. I will give it that. And Jon Cho. Come on. Okay. Catherine Waterston. Come on. So it was just about AI? Is that like a horror movie? Like an evil AI, yeah.
00:37:56
Speaker
Okay, yeah. That doesn't sound super interesting. yeah No, it's not. But the thing is, like everybody put 110% into it, so it's slightly above average. that can Yeah, that can improve a movie astronomically.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah. um chris But this movie doesn't need any improvement because we're talking about 1993's Bob Balaban's straight up ah My Gentleman Caller has returned.
00:38:22
Speaker
yeah I got good news and bad news. Your date's here The bad news, he's dead. That's a different one, Steven. did i i would i would say maybe a better one.
00:38:33
Speaker
You guys couldn't have me on for Night of the Creeps? oh i love them We had another guest on for Night of the Creeps. Here's the deal. i think Night of the Creeps is a better film, but I think My Boyfriend's Back is more rewatchable.
00:38:47
Speaker
I need to rewatch Night of the Creeps. I need to rewatch that one. The question is, how does this movie hold up against Lisa Frankenstein? I double featured it. I did. yeah I double featured it. I actually watched this before I left New Hampshire when I got the Blu-ray.
00:39:06
Speaker
um I watched it and I double featured it with Lisa Frankenstein and it's a great pairing. I think you could probably do it in either order too and you'd still have a good time.
00:39:17
Speaker
Hmm. yeah Great double feature. Double feature stamp of approval. Yeah, dude. They are very similar. um They are. Yeah. have imagine. Steven needs to make hyper-specific letterbox list of movies with boyfriends that come back from the dead.
00:39:34
Speaker
I mean, i mean if we're talking just like significant others, I could also add Joe Dante's Burying the Ex as well. Sure. ah So we we got Night of the Creeps. We got Lisa Frankenstein. We got My Boyfriend's Back. We got Burying the Ex. That's four right there.
00:39:48
Speaker
And there's probably others also. Yeah. Why would I, would you, I mean, that's just a little thing that happens, sort of. The only boyfriend that comes back is is Brad, like, the the main girl's boyfriend, and it's like at the end, and the movie's not even really about that, it's about aliens and shit.
00:40:07
Speaker
So I wouldn't include that on the list, because it's just a thing that happens in the movie, not the thing the movie is about.
00:40:15
Speaker
Yeah, but it happens in the movie. Okay, okay. I guess we're just letting anything fly now. What is this, straight up? right you and and this please I'm trying. I tried. I can't. I i don't. Tucker, you can get your Letterboxd account reactivated and come up with any hyper-specific list you damn well please.
00:40:35
Speaker
I would never step foot on Letterboxd ever again, but I would just like you to know that the fact that I haven't been on there in years and refuse to, um it it proves my point that I get the score right almost every time.
00:40:49
Speaker
It's a garbage place full of unserious people. Why? Making meme reviews. Have we discussed why you think that? Because I've been on there. People making meme reviews. Is that what it is?
00:41:02
Speaker
It's a garbage place. but Tucker doesn't in garbage reviews. tucker Tucker doesn't understand people that have different opinions from him. So. Oh, I don't. I don't see how that has anything to do with what I'm saying. I don't care what their opinion is. I'm just saying write an actual review. Not everything has to be a fucking joke, which is odd coming from me.
00:41:23
Speaker
ah That's how you know you're done. Can we be serious? If I'm telling you to be serious, that's it. It's too silly. Hit you with a rubber chicken. I'm Graham Chapman all of a sudden.
00:41:36
Speaker
Stop that. yeah okay it's not it's not wrong if tucker's telling you something's too silly boy you've crossed the line i'm a silly mofo i don't know if you guys knew that it is true yeah yeah but anyway i mean this guy this show within a show is evidence enough of that a room within a room yeah you're right and it is yeah Because, yeah, this this is a deeply, deeply silly show inside of another deeply, deeply silly show.
00:42:09
Speaker
Anyway, I really love how this movie subverts expectations. What were the expectations that you had? Isn't that great on that, Brent? I'd never seen it, right? So like I went into it thinking, like all right, he's going to come back from the dead and everybody's going to be scared of him. They're going to be like, why why are you back from the dead?
00:42:26
Speaker
Oh, my God. and then But then everybody's just like, Yeah, hes he's just a dead guy. I mean, to be fair, they do find it odd.
00:42:38
Speaker
Yeah, but they don't like freak out like, oh, my God, a dude is back from the dead. It's just a normal thing. They're not. They're not freaking out. No, I like that. I like the surrealist approach they took to. Plus, in the the story of the movie, like it had happened, what, 15 years before?
00:42:55
Speaker
um dties course, Leachman's husband or whoever. So they did have some, you know, context. Oh, all right. Prequel comic pitching. Are we pitching? It's got to be a comic book.
00:43:06
Speaker
I'd read it. Yeah. Do you, did you, Lindsay and I were talking about that. Do you know why they use the comic book framing device between scenes? Was that supposed to mean anything? Was it based on anything? Just. No, I think it would twitter if it was just... you know part of the i think it was a stylistic choice. yeah it and there's anything Nothing more to it.
00:43:26
Speaker
Because kind of abandon it after like a half hour. right theyca It doesn't run all the way through, doesn't it run all the way through it does Yeah, it does. doesn't great okay We believe it. not revisited right at the end yeah They do revisit it again right at the end. Right at the end. Okay.
00:43:41
Speaker
And how cool would this movie be if it just ended at the dance where he dies? Because I think that's where it should end. I do like the scene. i like the scene in heaven. It is funny.
00:43:52
Speaker
It is funny, that scene. um But I do have an issue with movies that I watched the whole thing. And at the end, it turns out none of that mattered. and This one gets a special pass because they make it so that even though it didn't happen, it does matter.
00:44:06
Speaker
um But I do, as much as I love this movie, if there was one change that I could make would be to just end it where he dies at the dance. I agree with the notion of hating movies where it was all a dream or they go back in time and none of it really mattered. That is very, it's such a cop out that is very irritating. Or it was all in their head movies. That's also...
00:44:29
Speaker
But it can be done well. I think this movie does it well. Sure. um Like you said, it gets a pass. it's It still works. Over the Garden Wall is another recent watch of mine that I think is also a good example.
00:44:43
Speaker
ah really What is it? Over the Garden Wall. that Love that show. I've scaled many garden walls, but I've never seen the show. It's very good. It's basically rematic yeah never the retelling of Dante's Inferno.
00:44:56
Speaker
Oh, word? yeah yeah Mixed with like like ah Americana. like Just old school Americana. And you get ricon voice performances from like Elijah Wood, Melanie Linsky, Tim Curry. it's one Christopher Lloyd.
00:45:10
Speaker
Christopher Lloyd, yes. Are there more ones? Are they going to do the other two books? Or is it just... just do an inferno okay just inferno that's all you get no purgatory or paradiso eridicio yeah not through the garden wall or under the garden wall we're just going over actually i think it was another friend of the show sam dumas my brother who recommended that show to me ages ago oh shout out shout out sam dumas we love that guy we do sammy there's a guy that i work with no
00:45:43
Speaker
What? It's on Hulu right now. Oh, wait don' nice. There's a guy that I... What were you saying,
00:45:52
Speaker
Tucker? There's a guy, Tucker? All at once talking. There's... I can go. Brett, you too. We'll just leave Jason here with AI versions of all of our servers.
00:46:07
Speaker
Who? Leave him. Call him by his government name. Timestamp it. Timestamp it. I was so careful in the recording i made with Lindsay, too. I got to the J and almost called you by your Christian name before. Almost my government name.
00:46:22
Speaker
My government name. I wasn't going to say that, but you did. So that's. Well, I did. You actually do you actually bleep it out or do you leave it in? it actually that big of a deal?
00:46:35
Speaker
and I don't know. I'll i decide what to do with it when I get to it. Okay. Unless it's... Do my best to continue to call you blinder. Look, we're already here. I've already put down the timestamp. So, Joseph, unless we one of us utters the word... or the sentence...
00:46:56
Speaker
um Wait, you can say it, but I can't? No, I'm beeping it out.
00:47:03
Speaker
I want to say it. Get him out. Get him out. Because like I said, I put the timestamp in so I'm already going to be here listening for shit. So your ass off. What? Is this an inside joke?
00:47:15
Speaker
um um I'm alright. I mean, I don't... You've been here all along. What are they talking about? Please explain to me. look Well, so here's the thing. I missed the a**hole. I was on the a**hole episode.
00:47:27
Speaker
You were. but But I missed the episode where a**hole became ah bleepable word. so Here's the thing. It was leading up to and yeah following because Tucker couldn't shut up about the fact that we were going to be covering it, but we don't pre-announce episodes except to patrons, so we he would have to go in and bleep out that word.
00:47:47
Speaker
And then Tucker just thinks that me talking about
00:47:53
Speaker
It's just a bridge too far. It's not a bridge too far. It's just it's just a it's such a downer. i don't want to think about that. We're sitting here having fun. yeah mean not a record I mean, I don't know if it's just PTSD from the one time it really screwed us at the beginning or what. But like, why are we still so staunchly against mentioning a future episode?
00:48:15
Speaker
Is it really that big of a deal? like Well, it's tradition. Like the guy in the play sings about. you know I guess. Tradition.
00:48:27
Speaker
look at why I saw that play last year. An actress in my movie was in a play and my daughter and I went to see it and it was amazing. um It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun.
00:48:39
Speaker
we they They fiddled on the roof. i don't know if you guys knew that, but they did in fact fiddle aware on top of the house. I mean, that sounds crazy, you know? I didn't believe they could do it, but they did it.
00:48:52
Speaker
Without our traditions, Joseph, our lives would be as crazy as, i don't know, say a fiddler on a roof. Steven, I can see you doing very well in that play. Have you ever been i yeah on the roof?
00:49:06
Speaker
I have not. I it feel like you would crush on that. I almost auditioned for it when it was at my school. However, it was a bunch of goys playing Jews. And I just, I.
00:49:18
Speaker
All right. Yeah. right yeah it' And it was just probably the reason I wouldn't do it now unless I'm like his honor, the constable or something. Sure, sure, sure. Okay.
00:49:28
Speaker
Like i'm I'm not out here to take, to take roles away from Jewish people. Good. I almost made an Elon Musk joke, but I won't.
00:49:39
Speaker
Look, you can mention Elon Musk all by himself. I feel like I could connect the dots on whatever joke you were about to make, so I think we're good. Yes, thank you, Brett.
00:49:49
Speaker
Explain it to me later, Brett. I'm putting it the chat. No, I don't think I will.
00:49:58
Speaker
Okay, Captain America. He's on. How about that? Which should be the next one, right? Yes. Episode 255, the last episode ever of Disenfranchised. This movie, I got very strong like Santa Clarita Diet if directed by Roger Corman vibes. like Very Santa Clarita meets Little Shop of Horrors kind of vibes off of this.
00:50:28
Speaker
Still haven't seen that. Santa Clarita? Oh, it's fun. Yeah, but like, it doesn't have a satisfying ending because they canceled it before they finish it, so why bother?
00:50:39
Speaker
I mean, it's Netflix, so yeah of course. did got Didn't they get three seasons in? Yeah. I saw them ended up watching so much of it because like, well, there's three seasons. Surely they'll finish it. Nope.
00:50:50
Speaker
Well, and that's just it. like Netflix mandates every show end on a cliffhanger, even if they don't plan to continue it. Looking at you, Arrested Development. Um...
00:51:01
Speaker
They just like, even though they're like, yeah, season five will probably be the last one. They're like, but ended on a cliffhanger just in case. And so they did. And it was, it was awful. It was so bad, but yeah, they mandate every show and on a cliffhanger. They don't let any show. I'm pretty sure we're going to, when stranger things five or whatever drops next year, whenever the second half of that season drops, it's not going to have a satisfying ending. I can pretty much guarantee you. that See, I thought that might be the one that does just because it's so definitive.
00:51:33
Speaker
That is ending. I don't know that they'll I don't know that they'll let it have that kind of a satisfying ending. But I mean, I would like to think they could. I stopped watching after season two. So oh I admire I admire your willingness to walk away. I can't bring myself to do it.
00:51:49
Speaker
Netflix burned me too many times, man. it's Archive 81 was the last straw. If anybody watched Archive 81, that show that show. That's the one that was based on the podcast, right?
00:52:01
Speaker
Yes. Okay, because I remember listening to the podcast. i was like, oh they're getting a show, which you know for obvious reasons had special interest to me. But yeah, I got a couple episodes into that, and it was just so, so dull. I had to turn off.
00:52:16
Speaker
Well, even I stopped listening to the podcast after season one because it became a completely different thing. it did. It very much did. yeah you So I don't know where the show would have went.
00:52:27
Speaker
If only there was somebody out there doing fiction podcasts and movies and doing it well. Doing it as one big cohesive... brilliant piece of art. do wish there was somebody like that. Well, I don't know of anyone doing that, so I guess it's never going to happen. I don't know. All right. Well, we can dream, right, fellas? We can dream. yeah think We will always dream.
00:52:56
Speaker
ah But yeah, um but no, i I mean, it had that kind of Santa Clarita feel like the the idea of we need to help this dead person eat people so that the person we love can stay alive is very Santa Clarita. But also let's find fun ways to to murder the people around us to feed them to this thing is also very Little Shop to me.
00:53:18
Speaker
The biggest laugh in the movie for me was when the mom's like, I got something for you. We turn the corner and there's just ah a small child with a lollipop sitting on a serving platter surrounded by vegetation. Just ah an incredible sight gag that just made me absolutely lose it. Best laugh of the movie for me.
00:53:35
Speaker
that was good That's little Chuck. And the fact that it ends up being little Chuck is even funnier. who
00:53:43
Speaker
Just like he's intentionally out to get this one guy's family. He didn't he didn't kill he didn't kill Philip Seymour Hoffman. Speaking of that, at the top, you guys had mentioned that it seemed like all of Philip Seymour Hoffman's lines were ADR. Does anybody know why?
00:54:04
Speaker
i picked up on that too. i'd like did they Was there a voice change? they not like how he did the lines or what? Because it was like every single time he spoke. You can tell... um when it happens too, because he said, I'm not even sure that it's still him in the ADR because when he, when you can tell he's actually speaking, it sounds so different, better, honestly. Right.
00:54:32
Speaker
I don't know if it's like a very over top situation where they're like, me there was like a voice that they liked better later on or what, but yeah. Yeah.
00:54:44
Speaker
I have no notes. umm um ah Weirdly, not a lot has been written about this film. There's not been those giant retrospective pieces about this the way there are about movies like Clue or even even Street Fighter gets like a big retrospective, but not not ironically My Boyfriend's Back, weirdly. and I don't.
00:55:03
Speaker
I don't really understand it because it seems like something that a certain sect of millennials would be very, very into because it combines a bunch of different shit that we're all nostalgic for.
00:55:19
Speaker
um it's just Well, I i Googled out curiosity, but I don't really have a real answer. This is what pops up. In the 1993 film My Boyfriend's Back, Philip Seymour Hoffman's character was eaten by the reanimated protagonist Johnny Dingle.
00:55:36
Speaker
Therefore, he did not perform ADR, additional dialogue recording, wow for the film because his character was no longer present to speak any lines. Because you're using AI. Yeah. That's not really an answer. Don't read the AI description. You're looking at the AI description. How dare i Oh, no, I'm enjoying it, though. This is fun.
00:55:54
Speaker
Speaking of... You're letting Skynet win. Stop it. Speaking of Johnny Dingle, if I may, um when I worked at a call center of some years ago, I was a a supervisor there, middle management.
00:56:11
Speaker
And ah one of the people that worked under me, one of ah the the little ah the grunt workers there at the phones, his name, his first initial was D and his last name was Ingle.
00:56:26
Speaker
And all of the all of the actual people on the phones had to go by their first initial and last name. So he was D Ingle. And so I called him Johnny Dingle. And he did not like that.
00:56:40
Speaker
He did not like that, actually. But I explained it to him. And he liked it less? He was like, ha ha ha, that's funny, but don't call me that. i was like, right, Johnny Dingle?
00:56:51
Speaker
Yeah. You got fired from that job, right?
00:56:56
Speaker
unceremoniously yes and it was because someone wanted my shift and because I was the and the worst manager because I don't give a fuck about the company I only give a fuck about my people and so I don't last very long as a manager because I'm trying to help the people instead of actually trying to but just not enough to call them by their actual names got it correct yeah well no Johnny Dingle yeah
00:57:25
Speaker
Well. I mean, oh, remind me, gentlemen, after after when we're not recording, remind me to tell you the fun story that I have from my call center job this week. Okay. Will do.
00:57:36
Speaker
The one I teased you about in the in the group text a couple days ago. Dude, yeah. Real stoked. You remember the one. Oh, yeah. Maybe you don't.
00:57:46
Speaker
no i Oh, yeah. Oh, i have no failure I have no idea about what you're talking about in terms of the thing, but I don't know who that is. Well, i'll I'll explain it, Brett.
00:58:00
Speaker
Sure. Okay. But I will not do it while we are recording. Well, I don't, I'm just saying it I actually do remember. Okay. All right. Okay. Okay. If you guys tease it enough, you should make it a Patreon exclusive.
00:58:14
Speaker
I would not necessarily be opposed to that. and He did say he put it behind a paywall. I said I would not to discuss it anywhere other than behind a paywall because of the sensitive nature of the, because it's related to my job.
00:58:29
Speaker
Tucker, my man, what is your problem? You've been having some issues this episode, my guy. What's going on? What's going on? you been You've been throwing a lot of sass over there without the mic on. What's going on, man?
00:58:41
Speaker
My mic's been on this whole time. i don't know what you're talking about. I don't believe you. but Now, I am a sassy boy, but that's ah that's pretty normal, I feel like.
00:58:53
Speaker
Talk a little bit more than a sassy bitch. Because as we know, I'm here every week, so it's a little bit more than you're used. You know how I am usually. Yes. You're so familiar.
00:59:06
Speaker
Weekly group to war you to do the ah the plot in 60 for us. Right. That was like 45 minutes ago. That ship is so long ago. We're not doing that anymore.
00:59:17
Speaker
Yeah, we're not doing that anymore. OK. I mean, why start now? um The first film of Matthew Fox, the first film of... um What's his name? Matthew McConaughey. It's also his first movie.
00:59:31
Speaker
I remember... ah Bob Balaban talking after Philip Seymour Hoffman passed away about his experience because this is one of his earliest films, not his first, but one of his earliest.
00:59:44
Speaker
And Balaban said that ah Hoffman came up to him and was like, you know, bob i i can do I can do other stuff. Like I can do more than just like this – this kind of thing. So like, if you have anything else like that comes up, I can, I can do that. I can, I can do a lot more than, than what I see here. And then of course he becomes like the actor of his generation within a handful of years of that um did manage to win his Oscar before he passed away.
01:00:12
Speaker
i just, I honestly, I'm kind of wondering like what kind of performances we could have had from him had he not passed away when he did. Because he was still like on fire, just churning out great stuff like year after year when he passed away. Well, we for sure could have gotten a sequel to this movie and bring bring him back, you know? And he'd be the zombie this time.
01:00:37
Speaker
Yeah, I was honestly kind of hoping his character would come back as a zombie later in the film. I thought that would have been really fun had that happened. I i know why it didn't, because again, he obviously axed his own brain.
01:00:51
Speaker
And as we all know, the only way to kill a zombie is by you know damaging the head or removing the brain. um So like he pretty much... you know killed, no pun intended, any chance of him returning for this film. But I would have liked to have seen that character in particular as a zombie. I think that would have been a lot of fun.
01:01:10
Speaker
umlthough I'm not sure if that's how zombies work in this universe. I don't know. Yeah, this might be more of a Return of the Living Dead kind of zombie thing where you just cut him up into pieces and still... He did come out of the grave and no proper zombie would have the strength of the coordination to break through coffin and dig through the ground. And he was cognizant. They might be doing it's own. Yeah, it's its own thing.
01:01:33
Speaker
Well, I mean, they they do give an explanation for it at the end of the film. Paxton Whitehead's character, you know, says, hey, when we when we get it wrong, we give you a second chance. And what you do with that second chance determines where you go in the afterlife.
01:01:46
Speaker
So, like, that – I mean, that zombies definitely work differently here than they do in other places, for sure. Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:55
Speaker
You know who I really love in this movie? a character that I think doesn't get enough screen time that I would watch just a whole TV series about is the guy who works at the cemetery, Murray.
01:02:09
Speaker
like Murray. He seems like a good guy. I want to have a beer with Murray. Can have a beer with Murray? That'd be great. At night. And he's like, he's, he's, he's almost like a magician character who like, you feel like he's got the inside lore about everything going on. And he knows like the, let's see. And then is he there after dark? Like that's, that's so weird. What kind of groundskeeper works there after dark?
01:02:32
Speaker
Yeah, no, you're just out just serious about that guy too. not not the first time that's happened. Clearly. and I definitely also watch a crossover where he goes into the um Cemetery Man ah universe and helps out. this I was waiting for Cemetery Man to come up. he could be They could be friends. I mean, they're exact opposites.
01:02:54
Speaker
They do the same job, but they're the exact opposite, polar opposites as people. And I'd love to see that. okay yeah for sure there's like a yeah like a like a coalition of uh international uh cemetery men
01:03:11
Speaker
leave a extraordinary is the the The League of Extraordinary Well, yeah. Yes, outside of his own crossover film, Inside the Ryanverse, which is going to happen at some point, where all the characters I've played in Endless Elsewhere projects will all come together and team This is not happening.
01:03:31
Speaker
And it'll just be me and a bunch of special effects. I've already written it. It's never going to happen. And that's why it'll never happen. is because you you wrote it. Inside the riot verse.
01:03:45
Speaker
I've got my lawyers on standby just waiting for him to try to do something with it. Waiting to cut me check? Speaking of litigious people. Or way back to the beginning.
01:03:56
Speaker
That's what we call a callback and we always appreciate those. Callbacks are tight. Callbacks are tight.
01:04:07
Speaker
um i was I was looking to see if the gravediggers in Hamlet had a name and it doesn't look like they do, which is a bummer. so i was going to say this this this coalition could be like the international order of whatever the name of the gravedigger in Hamlet was. but Apparently they are unnamed gravediggers.
01:04:22
Speaker
And you'd get the the rap duo gravediggers in there as well? ah ah You have to. You pretty much have to. have to yeah The monster truck gravedigger? Yeah, everybody's there, dude.
01:04:35
Speaker
that's but That's how they get around. ah Probably the wrestler, the Undertaker also. Sure, sure. Just, you know, while we're on a theme. We do be Undertaken and the Paul Bearer.
01:04:47
Speaker
um That was for you, Brett. I hope you enjoyed that. Thank you. Thank you. Can we isolate that at audio and add it to the soundboard? I don't know what the the context that for that would be. Who else is going to be there? And the pole band.
01:05:11
Speaker
Wowzers. What a special day it is. we We have fun. We always have a good time. We're good boys. That's for sure. We are. It's a good time. ah what what else what else What else do we have to say about my boyfriend's back?
01:05:25
Speaker
Oh. Well, you know, I can kill about six minutes. I've got i've got ah something have. What do you think, buddy?
01:05:34
Speaker
What does Brett think? Well, let me tell you. Fucking stupid. That's what he thinks. I disagree with myself once again. I thought you loved the movie.
01:05:45
Speaker
Geez. No. Also, language. Come on, man. Women and children listen to this show. I'm trying to respectful. Do they? I don't know. You tell me. Probably not. okay Never mind. Probably not.
01:05:58
Speaker
Women maybe. Children know. Yeah, no, not children. Speaking of women. i tell you Can I tell you? go Go ahead. Go ahead. yeah i'm sure you're Yes, I am. um But i want to tell you, whenever I have meetings with with my child's ah teachers and therapists and stuff, I usually do them virtually because that's more convenient for everybody.
01:06:19
Speaker
And when I do it, I use the headphones and this mic and everything. And they're always like, oh, what's all that for? And I tell them you know, I have a podcast. They're like, oh, what's it called? And I'm like, I... I'm not going to tell you. It's called the Endless Elsewhere Podcast.
01:06:35
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not going to tell you because I... Because then you'll listen to it and no one needs that. I don't want you to listen. Nobody. my My child's teachers don't need to hear my hot takes.
01:06:50
Speaker
Because some of them are unintentionally but admittedly kind of offensive. And maybe a little crude. A thing I've been telling sense you since you joined this podcast, frankly. Hey, Steven, self-aware. That doesn't mean I'm going to do anything about it.
01:07:07
Speaker
I'm aware. You've made that abundantly clear, sir. know. For good ill, know. this is exactly the room I wouldn't say that this is the real me, but it's a small, ah exaggerated version of myself that I really like to let loose every once in a while.
01:07:26
Speaker
So this podcast has given me a platform to let that out. You know, it's very therapeutic. It's like a florist concert. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:38
Speaker
Yeah. i do I do play an exaggerated version of myself on this podcast. It's like a code switch. It's just like more of a code switch where I'm like, oh, I can amp it up a bit.
01:07:51
Speaker
Oh, yeah. It's because I feel so comfortable and accepted. It's because I feel so comfortable and accepted with you boys. I can be my true self.
01:08:03
Speaker
Whatever is happening. That's all. No big whoop. I haven't any of that tonight. Isn't that weird? So, ah ah Joseph's lovely life wife, Lindsay, sent us a voice note.
01:08:19
Speaker
and And, ah well, but Joe is on it, too. He's... Had to just creep in there. Wasn't enough for him to be on the podcast. she No, she wanted me to talk to her so that she didn't get stuck anywhere.
01:08:35
Speaker
i tried to see if she wanted to just, you know fly it solo, but she's like, no, just talk to me that way. It'll be more conversational. was like, Okay. And we did. You know, i always do for the intros. I don't know if guys do like she was here and I was here.
01:08:49
Speaker
So that's probably why the audio was a little weird, but it was a really romantic because we kept having to get closer and closer to the mic. cheek to cheat And then we were like, nobody here. yeah was really cute Just you and me. i did cut that part out though.
01:09:04
Speaker
Darling, no.
Song 'Lady in Red' Discussion
01:09:11
Speaker
i didn't I didn't know the song they were singing i or I would have joined in. Lady in Red. Lady in Red. don't know the lyrics to Lady in Red. I'm sorry. You've got until next week to educate yourself. Farts.
01:09:25
Speaker
They sing it every week. song you Come on. i only i only know the little bit of the chorus that they would play during one of those like arts on butts CD compilation commercials. because It was on one of those that I remember. and That little clip of the chorus. All like all of these songs and so many more can be yours for just five easy payments of $19.95. Lady and Rick.
01:09:49
Speaker
lady and ra
01:09:54
Speaker
That was it. That's
Tucker's Wi-Fi Trouble
01:09:56
Speaker
all you know. Yeah. Pretty much. um tucker Well, we've, we've so deeply offended Tucker that he has just pieced out of this recording.
01:10:07
Speaker
That's it's bizarre. Cause he's the one like controlling the recording. So i'm kind of surprised it didn't just stop altogether. Oh my. Does that mean we're yeah are we still good? No, we're still going. Like, look i mean look at the top. Like the recording is still going.
01:10:22
Speaker
ah that Does this happen? You guys usually drop it? I don't know. I'm usually the one on Tucker's Wi-Fi died. Oh no. Wi-Fi has died.
01:10:33
Speaker
oh. Hey. Wi-Fi did not die. His Wi-Fi is back. Somehow Wi-Fi has returned. Our boyfriend is back, ladies and gentlemen.
01:10:44
Speaker
There he is. Hello, can you hear me? yeah Yes. And we're still recording. ah Okay, good. I was afraid we were going to lose everything that we recorded.
Joseph's Wife's Voice Note
01:10:57
Speaker
Nah, we're good, man. Okay. feel i mean If you want to get or stop here and restart, then by all means, do what you got to do. but yeah Why? Why would I?
01:11:08
Speaker
What would that do? ah So i we had just finished we had just finished singing Lady in Red, and ah now I'm going to introduce the voice note.
01:11:21
Speaker
Yeah, you were setting up the voice note. And now that we've finished singing that song, which I'm sure even though we were off on our timing in the recording, I will fix it in post to make us sound really good together.
01:11:34
Speaker
We are done with that. It's I think it's time ah we get to our voice note ah because Joseph's ah fantastic special lady friend that he is. ah He is he's he's there.
01:11:49
Speaker
They're totally married. You guys. For a long time. That's true. have they from I know that they are because I was there. They have multiple children. I've met them. I've witnessed it. You witnessed it happen.
01:12:04
Speaker
What? Yes. All key witnesses to my marriage, yes. Yes. the yeah not the Not the children, no. I don't know. had to make sure. guys We are really good friends. We've never... This is an idea.
01:12:25
Speaker
Anyway. Maybe we should play an audio now.
01:12:31
Speaker
That's... Oh my god. ah that That's the most pathetic sexual fantasy I've ever seen, says the lady in this movie. Yes. Which was a joke that landed. That was good. That was that was a good one. Yeah.
01:12:46
Speaker
So good. Anyway, yes. ah Joseph's lovely gal um has sent us a voice note because which I requested because um she's very essential to the origin of my experience with this movie. So I thought it would be really cool to get her take on it. gave her option we've never had her on the podcast before by her choice.
01:13:12
Speaker
Yeah, yeah this isn't really her. I mean, this is barely my thing. I do this exclusively for you guys. like I don't show up on other podcasts.
01:13:23
Speaker
I do this for you guys because I love you guys. do You help me with all my stuff. be surprised how much we get that. Yeah. Okay. That's not yeah that's a nice compliment. A people who are like, i don't do podcasts, but I'll do your podcast. I'll do yours. Yeah.
01:13:37
Speaker
That's nice. i have a good feeling about you guys. You guys are going for Without further ado, I will play ah that voice note so we can get her take on it. I am going to play it live here, boys, but I will be inserting it later. So um we can ah we can react to it with with ah noises or or facial glances towards each other.
01:14:04
Speaker
But I'd prefer not to have to stop it to say anything during it. Of course. You guys are ready? Let's do it. i'm gonna edit this whole I'm going to edit this whole part out because i don't want people to think that we're unprepared for a voice note.
01:14:18
Speaker
And we probably weren't. But I figured just in case i would say something. Man, I just work here. That's what I'm saying. I barely work here.
01:14:30
Speaker
What are you talking about? He's a consumer. Yeah, mean, every week. Yeah, yeah. I barely work here every week. Every week. Well, yeah, about an hour and a half, two hours a week, right?
01:14:43
Speaker
Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, here we go. You guys ready? Here we go. Here we go. You guys ready? Here we go.
Cloris Leachman's Role and Film's Tone
01:14:50
Speaker
I will have edited all this out, by the way. I would have cut this off a long time ago. Here we go Promises, promises.
01:14:56
Speaker
Okay, my love, we just last night watched My Gentleman Caller Calls again. what are your initial thoughts? Having not watched the movie in like 20 years, did you like it more or did you like it less?
01:15:09
Speaker
Probably liked it slightly less than I did in my youth, though it was still a mostly enjoyable watch. What did you not like about it, viewing it as an adult?
01:15:20
Speaker
Well, there was a lot more racy scenes than I had recalled. There was some raunchy stuff, yes. A lot of raunchy stuff, which... We have aged out of and are, you know, being old parents now. Yes.
01:15:33
Speaker
Yeah. So definitely not high school approved behavior in my book. But it was cool to see like, you know, such a stacked cast for such a little movie. Like there was McConaughey in the background and Philip Seymour Hoffman as the bully. That was amazing. Yes. I had completely forgotten about McConaughey being and in the theater as a background character. We're like, whoa.
01:15:57
Speaker
Absolutely. That guy. There was a lot of that guy actors in this movie. It was a lot of people from our youth. Movies we watched as children that had all the same 20 people in it. There was a lot of those guys in here.
01:16:10
Speaker
So since it was such a big deal to Tucker, we'll call him, that you introduced him to this movie, what are your recollections of introducing Mr. Tucker to My Gentleman Caller Calls Again? Yes.
01:16:24
Speaker
It has been a number of years since I did make that recommendation, but I do remember being very surprised that he hadn't seen it yet. Because it seemed to me something that would be right up his alley. So I was very encouraging in his viewership of said movie. And you were right. You were very right. Because I think it's like one of his favorites now. and it it the watch knowing Knowing Mr. Tucker and watching the movie, I was not at all surprised to find out that he liked it so much. It seemed very much like one of his kind of movies.
01:16:57
Speaker
Any other thoughts about Johnny Zombie, aka My Gentleman Caller Calls Again? Well, always a fan of seeing Cloris Leachman in anything. yes. You were so excited about that. Yes, she makes me happy. She's the best. I wish she was in it more because she's amazing.
01:17:17
Speaker
Absolutely. And still loved the comedy of it. and just The surrealist nature where it just- Tongue in cheek. Yeah, okay. You're a zombie. That yeah makes complete, absolute sense. The whole town was just like, oh, yeah, he's a zombie. We get it. It's cool.
01:17:32
Speaker
And his parents are top tier. Yes, we were talking last night. His mom is one of one of my favorite characters. She was she was kind of amazing. Yes. So it's always good to have supportive parents who... go out Who love you even if you're a zombie. Yes, want to feed their their child. I'm on board with that.
01:17:54
Speaker
Maybe less the kidnapping, but the people that are already you know just freshly dead, yeah that's good. I mean, she did go to the mortuary, which is okay. But she also abducted a little boy, which was... Spoiler alert
Comic Book Elements in Film
01:18:05
Speaker
Spoiler alert. Yeah. But he didn't get eaten, so he didn't, and he was adorable. he was It was a good choice, just you know ah probably shouldn't have happened. Probably not.
01:18:13
Speaker
What else? My most remembered, never forgot scene was the ear getting lost amid the makeout scene. That is something i have not forgotten, even though it's been a number of years since my last viewing.
01:18:30
Speaker
But yes, it has a solid place in my and my mind. Okay. I also liked, it was one of those movies where, and it seemed like there was a lot of them that used like a comic book framing device. Yes.
01:18:42
Speaker
Like the interstitial comic book stuff. I don't know why they did that, but I liked it. I mean, it worked for the tone, but it seems like had it been, you know, based on a comic book, that would make more sense, which for all I know it was. I really don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. Never looked into it. But I really liked the art style for the time and how it like, you know, connected scenes to scenes. I thought that was good. was all good.
01:19:03
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, something I did not realize was My Boyfriend's Back, the song, never was part of the
Song Rights and Title Change
01:19:14
Speaker
movie. Yes, and we we we tried to research it, and apparently they were going to go with Johnny Zombie as the original title, and then like last minute, for whatever reason, switch it to My Gentleman Caller Calls Again. Yes, I'm going to keep calling it that. okay And then they like didn't secure the rights to the song or didn't have time to or didn't have the money. But yes, for a movie called My Boyfriend's Back, they never used... and Who's that by?
01:19:41
Speaker
Oh, I don't know. Oh, we looked it up. It was the... Oh, rats. Insert name of musicians here. But yes, every time I would mention that movie, I would always sing the lines to that song. Not the whole song, just, you know...
01:19:58
Speaker
the main part. So I was surprised about that. Yes. I really expected it to like, you know, roll during the end credits. The Angels. I've just remembered. I didn't Google it. The Angels. 1963, my boyfriend's back, which I will not play with a mic because then we will get dinged for copyright infringement and the whole episode will be taken down, but everybody knows the song. So sing it in your heads.
01:20:23
Speaker
Yeah. Well, all the cool people know the song. Yes. People our age and above know the song. Okay. We've been through the plot. We've been through the actors, the song, the titles. Was there anything else?
01:20:39
Speaker
Bob Balaban, was that his name? Was the director, but he's he's another one of those, hey, it's that guy actors that we know from a lot of stuff. Yes. Which apparently he was also a director, and he also did... um ah The Parents, another favorite of Mr. Tucker's, which I'm sure me and the boys will discuss once we're actually on the air.
01:20:58
Speaker
Is that all? think so. Let's vamp a little bit longer. um Okay, well, I think that's it. All right. Thank you, Mrs. Leck. I know the boys are very thankful that you were to come on here and make this recording for them. You're a very busy woman. Oh, definitely. Very important woman. Things to do, places to be.
01:21:17
Speaker
Glad I could carve out the time. This is an absolute exclusive for the disenfranchised podcast. All right. And back to the show.
Podcast Dynamics and Personal Stories
01:21:27
Speaker
Well, that certainly was the best and most classy part of this podcast so far. So thank you for that. Lindsay, we appreciate that. And ah and lyn's mother only I hope some other time we... was
01:21:44
Speaker
I hope some other time that we are able to have you leave another voice note on a film that maybe also is something you like. So hooray. Not like she's, don't listen to this.
01:21:55
Speaker
Lindsay, if you've gotten this far, ah I didn't mean it. Why? Turn it off. Turn it off. No, don't do it. Oh, like I can guarantee that she will never hear No, don't do it. I love that for her. i love that for her. Good for her. That's no slight against this podcast. She just doesn't.
01:22:13
Speaker
No, she's even if it was deserved. i will say this, that I have I have known Lindsay for a very long time, and I can say that this is not her kind of show.
01:22:26
Speaker
I can only yeah imagine. yeah That's where I'm coming from on that. Don't don't listen. We appreciate that she came on, but don't don't let her listen. joe Tell her not to listen to this, man. she won Don't don't worry don't worry she's let's have to he she just vennna worry. She's the star of our own podcast and doesn't listen to podcasts.
01:22:49
Speaker
and People around the globe have heard her voice and know her fairly well because you know she's kind of playing a fictionalized version of herself. fictionalized version irself But yeah, no, she doesn't listen to pretty much any podcast at all. Joseph, I have to tell you. It's not her thing.
01:23:06
Speaker
I have to tell you that there are very few people I can say this about, but I i just don't want her to think ill of me. She doesn't. We were actually having a conversation about you last night. She's like, do your friends think I'm like stupid or like, do they not like me? I was like, no, babe. She's cause she's one of those people who like she said, like from her teenage years, she was always worried about like how other people like view her and she gets nervous around people. and she's like, do your friends like was like, my friends love you.
01:23:34
Speaker
And then I think I was having a conversation with you, Tucker, where you were worried that she thought that you were Like some, what did you, what were you afraid that she thought you were like, just like some idiot deviant or something? i was like, no she loves you. What talking about? You come across the that way. i mean, in fairness, Tucker, you kind of are an idiot deviant, but not like the far extreme idiot deviant. A lovable idiot deviant. There it is. There it is. Lovable, yeah. The heart of gold.
01:24:07
Speaker
lovable That lovable is doing a lot of heavy lifting, but yes. yeah Yeah, well. Keeps him from getting punched daily. Yes, well, that and bigger friends.
01:24:18
Speaker
Yes, I do tend to have friends that are much bigger than me because mouth is like right Including one, two, check three of us in this podcast recording.
Humorous Height Comparisons
01:24:27
Speaker
That my butt can't cash.
01:24:29
Speaker
Yes. So I have to have motherfuckers so I can hide behind while I talk shit. All three of us are bigger than Tucker in one way or another. one even though Even though Joseph is a year younger than me, he's always been much larger than me. He's a very tall man.
01:24:48
Speaker
ah big who's taller Joseph, who's taller, you or Brett? Because both of you are tall individuals. I'm 6'5". Brett, how tall are you? I'm six four I feel like we've had this conversation before at some point.
01:24:59
Speaker
When we first met, I think, we were like, wait a minute. We were like... to Brett, don't think I've been that much. You can actually talk eye to eye, which I love. I don't get that very much. yeah So anytime we hang out in person, it's always a delight. As opposed to the rest of us who are constantly looking up at both of you. You're welcome.
01:25:16
Speaker
Speaking of seeing Brett. That's what I was going for. Lindsay, the poor girl's Right? my god. Poor thing. Poor creature. thing.
01:25:29
Speaker
Speaking of seeing Brett in person, Brett, I always forget how much of a giant you are in between times of seeing you. get that so often.
01:25:40
Speaker
and There was a time when I saw Brett every day, and I miss those times. Me too. all Like, every time, like, like, Brett, and Brett's here every week, obviously, so I see him. um But there's no, there's no, but there's no banana for scale, you know, I'm not paying attention to that kind of thing. I just, I just expect him to be just a normal size dude, right?
01:26:03
Speaker
And then, like, I'll see him, like, maybe once or twice a year, and I'm like, damn! and like That's a huge bitch. That's just a huge like That's why you were perfect in Circle City Supernatural as the pressure because you're a big dude, Brett.
01:26:21
Speaker
Absolutely. An imposing figure. I will tell you that. Especially compared to Jules who's like yes a waif of a girl. Jules is bitty teeny tiny. Yeah.
01:26:33
Speaker
It was perfect. dread is red isn't imposing theyre doing And like, just just an imposing figure. just like Just a tree of a man, really. giant man, yes. yeah Biblical
Random References and Christianity Mention
01:26:44
Speaker
giant. Biblically accurate giant.
01:26:46
Speaker
Correct. Him and Og King of Bashan, just right there. and yes, that is an actual biblical figure. Look it up. Yes. i bo to's long neck Just in case anybody's curious.
01:26:59
Speaker
Nice. Of course you know that. Of course you know that. Yeah, of course.
01:27:07
Speaker
oh when we see let we saw christianity tomorrow just in the movie Oh, there we go. no we should You guys do it as a side thing, right? Yeah. that Oops all Christianity.
01:27:19
Speaker
And you know what even Brett and I would just like set out of that one and just let you guys talk. of Like we would just write in questions. Yeah, we'd write the questions and you'd have to answer them, but we don't need to be there.
01:27:31
Speaker
we We do not need to be there for this. We could do this job from home. It's better if you are. Yeah, I think it'd be more fun if you were on the call. Sure. yeah and But anyway, anyway let's let's give Brett more compliments about how well he please.
01:27:46
Speaker
Let's do that. I could use the compliments. I need the validation. let a woman and Then we'll go to Steven. Then we'll go to Tucker. and I was going to say, can we can we pivot to Circle City Supernatural 2? What do you need to say about my boyfriend's back?
Appreciation for Austin Pendleton
01:28:01
Speaker
I don't really have much. I just really like it. I think everybody's great in it. I like all the performances. I can't think of one actor in here that I'm like, oh, they're just like doing it or whatever. Everybody's doing really well. I think everybody knows what movie that they're in. What's the guy who plays the doctor?
01:28:16
Speaker
um Austin Pendleton, the great Austin Pendleton. Yes. The Muppet movies, Austin Pendleton. I love him. There's no one like him. no one. He's kind of like... He's so good. He doesn't sound like Christopher Walken at all, but like Christopher Walken, he has his own vocal cadence that yeah nobody else has. Correct. Especially when he does silly roles like this, I love his voice.
01:28:42
Speaker
And I love his vocal performance in so many things. And this is one of my favorites because he does... He's a character that sort of...
01:28:56
Speaker
is probably the most diabolically whimsical. And I really appreciate that about him. He does that care so well. He plays like quirky and esoteric, like so incredibly well.
01:29:10
Speaker
He's also a playwright. He's written a play that I would love to star in called Orson Shadow about ah the time Orson Welles directed Lawrence Olivier in, um in a, a production of Eugene Ionesco's rhinoceros. Yeah.
01:29:26
Speaker
It's an amazing play and I would love to do it when I'm like 20 years older than I am right now and have aged into the role. But yeah. Yeah, do it. I can't wait till you do actually. I'll see that.
01:29:38
Speaker
So before we move into the let's talk about Circle City Supernatural for half an hour portion, I just want to run through the the the box office and whatnot.
Box Office Competition
01:29:47
Speaker
um My Boyfriend's Back opens on August 6th, 1993.
01:29:52
Speaker
It opens against the opening of a little movie called The Fugitive. ah Harrison Ford, Tommy Lee Jones opening at number one. um at number two, the Wesley Snipes joint Rising Sun, which is in its second weekend. It's earned $31 million so far at the box office.
01:30:12
Speaker
At number three, in the line of fire... um which is in its fifth weekend and is down from number two the previous weekend. At number four, a movie I saw in theaters.
01:30:25
Speaker
It is called Free William. I'm sorry, Free Willy, about a whale that jumps over a rock. It's been in theaters for four weeks. Free William.
01:30:36
Speaker
Did I see that? No, I saw the Flipper movie with Elijah Wood. That's the one I haven't seen. Oh, and Paul Hogan. Paul Hogan's in that movie as well. Future episode of this podcast, Flipper. Hey, yeah. I'm going to watch it and see if it holds up because I watched it. ah like I think I saw it like three or four times at the movie theater.
01:30:53
Speaker
I will put it on the schedule for early next year for you. Please do. um At number five, the biggest movie of 1993. It's been in theaters for nine weeks. It's grossed almost $300 million. dollars A little film called Jurassic Park.
01:31:09
Speaker
Jurassic Park. ah That's the one. As we mentioned, yes life does ah ah find a way. and ah Rounding out the top 10, we've got The Firm at number six. Robin Hood, Men in Tights by Tucker's favorite director at number seven.
01:31:27
Speaker
ah Sleepless in Seattle. I like that one, number actually. There's a couple Mel Brooks movies I like. I like Robin Hood, Men in Tights. If I'm in the right mood, I can have a good time with Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles.
01:31:41
Speaker
ah But I have to. It's a very specific mood you have to catch me in. Fair enough. It's only happened like twice in my entire life. But I always I always dig Robin Hood men in tight. Something about the way that he applies his comedic style in that one is slightly different and just different enough.
01:31:59
Speaker
um to where I really dig it, like in a UHF kind of way. We might have to cover that when Spaceballs 2 comes out then. who gives a shit? I mean, great. That's great.
Future Podcast Topics
01:32:10
Speaker
At number eight, we've got Sleepless in Seattle. At number nine, future episode of this podcast, The Meteor Man.
01:32:16
Speaker
Oh, and yeah that's because you did Blank Man. So it was the other one around that time. That was immediately and is actually the first black superhero movie is Meteor Man. So both of those were cable TV favorites for me as a child.
01:32:33
Speaker
That tracks or real hard, real hard. And at number 10, the John Singleton movie Poetic Justice. Oh, with Janet Jackson. Yes. and so Janet, if you're nasty. Yeah.
01:32:47
Speaker
listen On a budget of, quote, less than $10 million, dollars ah it only grosses 3.2.
Letterboxd Ratings Debate
01:32:54
Speaker
Domestic has absolutely no worldwide box office at all. So 3.2 is what it gets.
01:33:01
Speaker
It's not going any further. It has a 13% tomatometer score. Which is bullshit. ah Which, according to Tucker, is objective bullshit.
01:33:13
Speaker
um And then ah there is no Metascore whatsoever. So Tucker, out of five stars, how many are you ah predicting that it gets Letterboxd?
01:33:24
Speaker
This movie on Letterboxd, I think um it works better as a reassessment in in these modern times. So I'm going to predict um maybe a higher rating for this, somewhere between do i want to start in the threes um shit a fart i'm gonna say between no golly duke let's say between 2.9 gonna regret this and 3.4 what it it's 3.0
01:33:59
Speaker
three point zero
01:34:02
Speaker
Man, I am on the biggest streak, dude. When's the last time you remember me not getting one? barely remember this podcast. 5.5? Yeah, we give you 5.10 range. On Letterboxd, that's pretty big range.
01:34:15
Speaker
and giving yeah we give you a five ten s range like on letterbox that's a pretty big range You're a pretty big range. We've already talked about Brett being a mountain of a man. but disgust Are saying that I shouldn't be proud of my achievement? Of always within.5 guessing the letterbox score?
01:34:37
Speaker
you saying that I'm a fraud, Brett? Hold on. That's more than a.5 leap in logic here. I'm just saying... that's more than a point five leap in lo here sir um just saying If you've gotten it wrong they're right this often, maybe we need to adjust
Cowardice, Bravery, and Friendship
01:34:53
Speaker
it. Should we slim it down? Let's slim it down. What suggest?
01:34:56
Speaker
Let's challenge you a little bit more. How about that? You can view it in that way. but the fucker This time, I still would have gotten it right. You would have. So shrink the range. What? To what?
01:35:07
Speaker
Suggest it. I don't know. 2 to 3? A 2 to 3 tenth range? Yeah, 0.3. 0.3. Oh, okay. okay We're taking the higher one. All right.
01:35:18
Speaker
All right. No, I'll do 2. No, I don't want to do 2. That's scary. Yeah, I was going to say, you're too much of a coward to land on 2. yeah You like the buffer. You like the buffer. disappointing that without Steven I am a coward.
01:35:34
Speaker
I mean you've you've pretty much said my mouth writes checks my body can't cash that's why I have larger friends. Particularly my... if If nothing else that speaks coward but yeah.
01:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, well, I mean, at least I'm
Fashion and Smoking Nostalgia
01:35:50
Speaker
self-aware. but What's funny is the bigger friends that you have like aren't fighters at all. That's what makes it even funnier. We're all gentle giants, yeah.
01:36:01
Speaker
i But that gives me more time to get away, is what i'm saying.
01:36:06
Speaker
Okay. Or the fn friends you would trip when you're being attacked by a bear. Got it. Yes. Yes. Yes. um And may I say it's it's a shame that he's not here to hear it.
01:36:18
Speaker
But um when Joseph and I in our hood rat days, um we both used to wear trench coats. This was before Columbine. So don't get your panties in a twist. um Too late. And they were both for a completely they were different unrelated reason.
01:36:34
Speaker
They were both green. Mine was a dark green because mine was my father's army issue a trench coat. And his was like this kind of before the pixelated ah camouflage became a thing.
01:36:51
Speaker
His. oh good. He's back. His trench coat was kind of good. You're back. Hey, do you remember that trench coat you had in junior high? What would you call that pattern?
01:37:03
Speaker
Like almost like a pixelized sort of camo before pixelized camo happened. It was made of not canvas. It was like polyester. Probably oil skin.
01:37:15
Speaker
was oil were It was Oh, I love it. I had an oil skin duster for a while. Yeah, that's what was. it was a duster. I bought it at the ah that Western store in Washington. Scare mall is where I got that like a million years ago.
01:37:28
Speaker
Yeah, dude. But when you I mean, it wasn't even that compared to what it is now. It was not scary at all. Back then demo was scary AF by the time I graduated high school.
01:37:40
Speaker
I remember when you could smoke in that mall. I remember when you could smoke in all malls. In the doctor's office. um I remember when the Tucker smoked everywhere. No, I didn't. really I mean, in high school, I smoked at Denny's. But like even by that time, it was just like sections in restaurants. You couldn't like smoke in the mall or in the doctor's office or anything like that.
01:38:01
Speaker
Like in the late 90s, early 2000s. Yet another thing that's aging us as podcasters. Yeah. you I used to sit in a like a ah restaurant and smoke cigarettes and drink coffee for just like hours.
01:38:17
Speaker
And yeah, there was a non-smoking section, but you were still in the same building. Doesn't matter how far away from it you get. It gets there and you're still. It's ridiculous. We used to smoke indoors even after we knew how bad cigarettes were.
01:38:30
Speaker
Isn't that wild? yeah Some places still do it It's almost like change is incremental And really doesn't Doesn't really happen that quickly at all Almost, you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and And cut this off right here Because I've gone too far on a tangent And I recognize that The reason I brought up the trench coat Is that guess What did I miss while I was gone?
Friendship Recollections
01:38:53
Speaker
In our hood rat days, it wasn't just Joseph's Tallness, but with his trench coat He could become wide And I felt that that was something that could potentially protect me in a situation where, as aforementioned, my mouth wrote a check my butt couldn't cash.
01:39:13
Speaker
And then you just decided to trade a ah friend who could seem wide for friends that were actually wide. Hey, it's always a coincidence. It's kind of like how like I dated seven girls named Sarah in a row.
01:39:26
Speaker
Just a coincidence. There was nothing to that. It's the same thing. In a row, yes! Thank you, Brett! Brett! Yes! Yes! Brett coming in clutch with a Clerks reference. Fuck yeah!
01:39:41
Speaker
Like, if you need a Clutch reference, I'm your guy. You are. why we keep you a around, Brett, really. That's why you're here week after week. Yeah.
01:39:51
Speaker
So out of five stars, Joseph, we'll start with you. Out of five stars, how many are you giving to Bob Balaban's 1993 classic My Boyfriend's Back?
01:40:03
Speaker
Or the Gentleman Caller Calls Again? Straight Up Johnny Zombie. I really enjoyed my time with
Film Ratings Discussion
01:40:12
Speaker
this. um I'm going to give it a 3.5 doesn't seem like quite enough. I'm going to go solid four because I really, really liked it.
01:40:20
Speaker
I really liked it. And you you had seen it before, though, but you like vaguely remembered it. I hadn't. Lindsay assures me that we watched it together ages ago. I had not remembered a single frame. So you don't know if like you liked it more than or like less than or more now. oh and I wish I remembered because now I'm curious because that was one of the questions I asked her is whether she liked it more now than or so. I don't know.
01:40:43
Speaker
I don't know if I feel like. The fact that you can't recall maybe implies that you weren't too thrilled with it. Or maybe could be y'all were just making out and shit instead of watching the movie. didn' stay time but Entirely possible. It do be like that sometimes, especially in your younger days. You know what I mean? It's true. as As long as your ear didn't come off in her mouth, then okay yeah thats important I would remember that. I would hope so.
01:41:10
Speaker
Brett, out of five stars, how many are you giving to my boyfriend's back? I'm also giving it a four. All right. i enjoyed Tucker. wasn't surprised. What about yourself, Tucker?
01:41:22
Speaker
Well, gosh, you guys, it's a four for me as well. Well, it's like a really, really, really, really really good movie. And I like it a lot. And like I said, really only have one complaint.
01:41:34
Speaker
And it's that. There's too much of an epilogue where I don't feel like there needs to be, but it still works. So I'm not too mad about it. So yeah, four, four, four.
01:41:47
Speaker
And it's a three for me. I enjoyed it, but ah you know, I didn't, you know, wasn't like, you know, the end all be all the, the greatest thing. I think I enjoyed parents a little more.
01:41:58
Speaker
as I recall. ready but But I had a good time with this one. i Again, i my my partner and I were watching it together. we We both enjoyed it, and I think she gave it a ah two and a half.
01:42:09
Speaker
So I liked it more than she did. And if we adjust that on the normal scale, ah so the Stephen 3 is like a normal person 4. There you go. There you go As Brett reminds us every week.
01:42:22
Speaker
um Every week. Every single week. Consistently appears on this podcast. When's the last time you remember Brett not being here?
01:42:33
Speaker
I'm asking listeners. Can you clue us in? Because I don't meant... I defy you to tell us. um yeah so So, Joseph, we Tucker and i had a great time a couple weeks back ah viewing a little film called Circle City Supernatural 2 on the big, big screen at the H.J. Ricks Theater in Greenfield,
'Circle City Supernatural 2' Development
01:42:55
Speaker
Indiana. Brett, unfortunately, had to work, was not able to be there. I'm hoping he's going to be able to make it ah for the show you have coming up.
01:43:02
Speaker
This weekend, as of the release date of this episode. um Yeah, two days from the release of this episode. Correct. Yeah. So there is a chance if you know if you are in the Indianapolis area and would like to see this movie on a big, big screen, um we're about to tell you where you can do that. But Joseph, um tell us about Circle City Supernatural 2, the sequel to the smash hit of 2023, Circle City Supernatural. Mm-hmm.
01:43:28
Speaker
um Tell us, tell us about um the Genesis of it. ah What the response has been thus far. ah Give us, give us the lowdown, like plug the movie that you created that we all happen to be peripherally involved in. Okay. For those who do not know um the circle city supernatural movies, they're horror anthology films that have their Genesis in the endless elsewhere podcast. Okay.
01:43:57
Speaker
That's our award-winning chart-topping fiction podcast that stars myself and my beloved bride, Lindsay, who you guys heard from earlier, playing fictionalized versions of ourselves, exploring the mysteries and events of a fictional version of our own city that we call Circle City. If you're into science fiction and horror and things that go bump in the night, you'll enjoy it quite a bit.
01:44:20
Speaker
um She plays a radio host in the podcast, and from that, we... Decided to do our own feature film. And it was maybe the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. And I say that as a guy who has written books and done all kinds of other massive projects.
01:44:36
Speaker
But we loved it so much, we decided to do a sequel. um Getting back to the double feature you mentioned minute ago watching them back to back, I realized just how much better ah movie Circle City Supernatural 2 is in the first one. So I really think we accomplished our goal of...
01:44:53
Speaker
getting more ambitious and getting better and learning from all the mistakes we made with our first film, because there were many, because it was, it was a, it was a steep learning curve. um But yes, the first movie, um it is available to stream on Amazon prime and to number of other streamers. It's also available on Blu-ray at the moment circle cities from that.
01:45:13
Speaker
um I'm just going call it CCS two CCS two is available on Blu-ray, which you can buy through our shop at endless elsewhere.com. I have turned it over to my distributor who is currently pitching it to the various streamers. We have one who has licensed us, licensed us already. Um, until it goes live on the channel, I can't actually say which one it is.
01:45:34
Speaker
Uh, but it's one of the bigger ones. Are you going to tell us off mic? Yes, if I haven't already. Are going put it the now? Put it in the chat right now. Actually, yes, I can. Or you can say it and I can bleep it. that's what i Oh, okay. Yeah. Yes.
01:45:46
Speaker
So that's a pretty good one. um We're hoping that the another couple of the big ones pick us up because that's really where we make... whatever little money we make is from a couple of these streamers.
01:45:57
Speaker
Um, it's pretty that awesome that you're, that you're able to do that too. Like I almost did this almost made the same joke, but it's it's better that you did than me for legal reasons. It's better that you did than me.
01:46:11
Speaker
um But yes, every person on this call was in the movie. um For anyone who doesn't know, and I'm sure there's probably few at this point who don't, everyone on this call is a close personal friend of mine. They're all actors. They were all generous enough to be in my first film as well as my second film. They also do voice work throughout the podcast.
01:46:29
Speaker
um But yeah, it's been... It's been really good. We went through what little of the festivals were still open by the time I finished. um We missed a lot of deadlines, but we did submit to a couple of them.
01:46:41
Speaker
We got into phobia fest out of Missouri and actually won best feature, which was extremely encouraging. yeah Yes. Very, very exciting. Now, now for the festival circuit in 2026, once they all reopen in the spring, I
Festival Success and Dream Roles
01:46:55
Speaker
will submit to those. I'm hoping to have another bunch of screenings because watching it with an audience is so enjoyable. i have discovered a new addiction of mine, which is to write a joke, put it in a movie, and then sit in a room full of people and have them all laugh at it.
01:47:13
Speaker
That is incredibly rewarding. I've heard comedians talk about- Yes, I've heard comedians talk about like you know the high of getting people to like laugh at your jokes. I really enjoyed that quite a bit. But yes, it's um it's a really it's a decent movie. I'm quite proud of it. Like I said, we have made quite the large strides from the first movie. We really kind of took everything we learned from the first one, got more ambitious, spent more money, spent more time. And I think it turned out to be a better project.
01:47:43
Speaker
Yeah, it's significantly more ambitious. You're trying a lot more things. You're you're bending medium. ah you're You're doing ah like different types of horror. There's a found footage section within this movie, a stop motion section within this movie. You're doing like a straight up Marwin thing at one point. like it's It's incredibly ambitious. and Brett gets to live out one of his lifelong fantasies as well, which is pretty effing cool.
01:48:08
Speaker
I mean, most horror fans dream of being a masked slasher in a horror movie, and I got to live that dream. You did. Yeah. we We were very happy to make that happen for you, Brett.
01:48:19
Speaker
Yeah, I was very concerned I wasn't going to get to be in the sequel, so I'm glad. No, from that was one of the, when I was first putting ideas together, I was like, I want to bring back as many people as I can, but I know, brett because being a very tall guy myself, like I long for other big friends that I can make into monsters because I can't not be behind the camera.
01:48:44
Speaker
So having you as my friend and having you play the ham hock killer was just, was perfect. And like we were saying earlier, your dichotomy with our friend Jules, who plays the lead of that story, just you guys next to each other. It's, it's comedically, it's it's just, it's so, it's, it's great. It was, it was, yeah. and I didn't really realize it on the day, but like, yeah, seeing it,
01:49:05
Speaker
on on screen, I was like, yeah, this works really well. It worked um it worked really well. Yeah, it's really good. And, you know, Tucker closes out the movie once again.
01:49:16
Speaker
ah Two movies in a row where Tucker's just like shutting it down, ah saving the mediocre-est for last. Seniority. Seniority. I don't know what to tell you. You know, I had not...
01:49:28
Speaker
I had not intended on doing the bookends of Jules and Tucker because in the first movie, our our friend Jules opened the movie and then Tucker closed it out. I had not intended on doing that for the second one.
01:49:39
Speaker
It just worked out that
Future Film Structuring
01:49:40
Speaker
way. But now when we do the inevitable third one, we're going to keep it. Yeah, we'll we need book it again. We discussed it the other night at Shallows. the yeah He made me right.
01:49:49
Speaker
If we're not the bookends, like we walk, basically. Yeah, you're you're done. you're done i've won I was second from the from from the end in the first film, and I'm second from the beginning in the second film.
01:50:00
Speaker
So if I'm not dead center in the third, then walk. You took the words out of my mouth. like like I got to put you like dead center, yes. yeah guess I got to be near the end in the third one, because I was near the middle in the first one and at the beginning for this one. So I guess I got to be near the end in the next one. We'll figure it out. if You and Tucker doing a buddy horror comedy thing in the very last section. I love that for you guys.
01:50:23
Speaker
Yep. Not doing that. Okay. Well, because how would you make it like without dialogue? That's the whole thing in the movies is that the the the visual part of it is slightly detached.
01:50:36
Speaker
They're almost all stories of the isolation. Yes. But I did like where you did add some a little bit of actual audio here and there. With steven ah Steven's When he's being a silly boy.
01:50:48
Speaker
hello Is anyone there? That was a great addition, yeah. and see Steven's part always crushes. It's one of the funnier ones. that one you're the scar You're the less more of CCS2. The less more who's not less more. right I'm just saying, you're the breakout in that one, I think. yes i pitched I pitched a ah Lesson Cody in the End of the World movie to to to Joseph, and I don't think he was into it.
01:51:19
Speaker
um we'll do that when do the reverse movie yeah yeah where where me and jack take on like a horde of zombies or something no i i have to say when we get towards the end of the movie and less more returns his is one of the his he he he tends to steal the scene like we uh yeah we went out to that festival i mentioned and we had actually done that festival two years ago with the first movie And made a lot of friends out there, people who really liked it, people who came back to see the second movie.
01:51:48
Speaker
And when Les Moore reappeared on the screen, there was like audible cheers in the crowd, which was pretty great.
Family-Friendly Film Challenges
01:51:55
Speaker
Everybody was very excited to see that character again because he's so much fun.
01:51:58
Speaker
I will tell you, Joseph, i and Tucker can attest to this because Tucker was sitting next to me during our screening of Circle City Supernatural 2. I leaned over to him and I absolutely called how that was going to end.
01:52:10
Speaker
without Without spoiling it for the audience. i absolutely As soon as you did the visual reference to it earlier, I leaned over to Tucker and I'm like, that's how he's going to get him. and Oh, with the things that he knocks over, yeah i mean? Yes.
01:52:23
Speaker
i am so absolutely But of course, I'm also the one who called your big reveal at the end as well, because I saw it very clearly framed throughout the movie. And you're like, I think you're the only one that caught that. Yes, we and we did. ah i actually shot close-ups of that stuff and had it in the original cut. and i was like, no, let's make a little more subtle.
01:52:42
Speaker
see if See if anybody picks up on it. And you did, so good job. Stephen did. done, Stephen. Good job, buddy. Thanks, man. But yeah, I, I, I, it's a very fun movie. I strongly encourage if you're a fan of like micro budget anthology horror, absolutely check it out. It's going to be your, your bread and butter. It's so much fun and it's something you can show to the kids. There is no profanity, no, nuity no gore to speak of really like it's kind of the, that's the, ah the challenge I give myself is can you make a horror movie without all that stuff?
01:53:19
Speaker
And still make it compelling to an audience. Cause a lot of people go into horror just for like the blood and the boobs and everything. It's like, can you, can you do that? Can you take all that stuff out and still make a movie people want to watch? Right. As if my job wasn't hard enough.
01:53:34
Speaker
I then add that component to it and make it almost impossible. You don't have to, cause everyone on this call has told you many times we're all comfortable with nudity. Yeah. Yeah. You don't though.
01:53:45
Speaker
yeah i Like wrong but I can see this, but every guy on this call is nude. Every last one of them. I don't hear you complaining. I'm not. i didn't say it was i got I got a hat on, a headphones. That's about it.
01:53:58
Speaker
But yeah, nudity. Totally something we're all comfortable with. So we're we're totally willing to hang dong in any movie that Joseph makes. And it's huge. Honestly, probably any movie he doesn't.
01:54:08
Speaker
Yeah. And we're fine. Look, a circle if I have one one thing to say about Circle City Supernatural 2, that it truly is, as one Letterboxd reviewer put it,
01:54:20
Speaker
ah Ned Flanders makes Creepshow for $20 too. ah There you go. Yeah, that's that's more or less it. and And honestly, i you really should use that as a pull quote. Because that is...
01:54:34
Speaker
That should be on the DVD and the poster. was Tales the Crypt, by the way. but yeah yeah was tells from the cryp yeah ned flanders pick it tails from therep for twenty dollars Yeah, it it only cost Right? that gas Hampshire.
01:54:54
Speaker
hotel ummen Well, look, I got to take an opportunity to tell you how jealous I am of Tucker that he got to walk around 13th hour. um Oh, you were just there. You love that haunt.
01:55:06
Speaker
you justs there i was I was just there last night. Yeah. ah ey is You got a picture of that big throne. It's the best haunt ever. If you film there again, cast Brett as another mass serial killer oh and do it at the 13th hour so that Brett can live please two two fantasies at one time. Joseph, please. I tried but do my best not to.
01:55:31
Speaker
Go ahead. Go ahead, Tucker. And you can meet the tiny dog that lives there. That was my favorite part of shooting there is there's a teeny tiny dog that lives there, too. that's awesome I don't know if he lives there, but he was there. hes did you ask me is awesome is that the dog you cast as the critter that Tucker catches?
01:55:48
Speaker
No, that was a hand puppet, actually. Spoilers. That was Liberty in there. Was that the same like mouth from the plant in the first one? Did you use the same? but it kind of looks like it doesn't. It is very similar.
01:56:01
Speaker
yeah the yeah The teeth from the from the Icky Tricky in the first movie, this much thicker teeth. These were thinner needle teeth. I meant to mention that to you ah when we watched it all by ourselves in the theater.
01:56:16
Speaker
That was awesome. I love at the 730 showing. That was great. let You guys, I got a live commentary and I got to ask questions. everybody Literally, everybody took off after that. After that second, after that first show.
01:56:29
Speaker
and it was just like but the first show. But like after that, it was just me and Joe. And that was it. We had a blast. That was awesome I got to eat loud snacks provided by the aforementioned ah Lindsay.
01:56:41
Speaker
who packed some Chex Mix and some granola bars. She's always making sure people are fed. she is super pe She is the light craft services for the endless elsewhere, and she always does a very good job. That's very true. The star in craft services, yes.
Family Involvement and Promotion
01:57:00
Speaker
It's very... We all have to wear at least ten hats to make it work. but Right.
01:57:05
Speaker
it's very 1968 night of the living dead in that way where people starring in the film are also doing a lot of things behind the scenes. I mean, if I want my children, yeah my kids are getting my crew for this one, like they're all getting a little bit older and they all love it.
01:57:20
Speaker
And they were absolutely like indispensable. Like, just I would take them with me on every shoot and they could just like do every job and they love it. Your son is practically a giant now too. like good yes i did I barely recognized him when I saw him a couple weekends ago when when I was down there. was like, oh my word. yeah argue are you Are you the same kid? Holy cow. being his guy He's got electric shaver going on. No, he's 12. He's over six foot. He's like 200 pounds. he's it's been It's only been like maybe three months since I've seen him.
01:57:53
Speaker
But I too was like, wait a minute. who Oh. you They grew up so fast. In two months. He grew like a foot. In two It took me second, too. Yeah. I was like, wait, are you? Oh, my God. He was like, oh, my favorite was your voiceover. And I'm like, wait, who are you? Oh, shit.
01:58:13
Speaker
Yes. yeah That's right. And there was some some kid. I think it was a friend of your son's who was just like, wait, are you the are you the pizza delivery guy? And I was wearing my Zabra shirt.
01:58:26
Speaker
And I just showed him my shirt he's like, oh, like he just like short circuited right in front of me. It was the coolest thing. And then as as I was leaving, he he and your son were like, maybe work for somewhere other than Zabras. And I was like, their 401k is really good though. Well, Stephen, the kids love us. That's great. Right.
01:58:47
Speaker
Oh, that's great. yeah Indeed. All right. But yeah, you absolutely should be checking out Circle City Supernatural 2. Watch for it on your streamers of choice. when And I'm sure if you follow...
01:58:59
Speaker
ah Joseph, where are you at on your socials? Let's let's drop some socials. We really just do the Facebook and Instagram. If you go to Endless Elsewhere at Endless Elsewhere, you'll find me.
01:59:10
Speaker
um Or you can just go to our website, Endless Elsewhere.com. That has links to literally everything we do. So you can't go wrong with that one. There you go. And I'm sure once it it once as as it begins to hit streamers, you will hear it there first. Yeah.
01:59:25
Speaker
Yes. yeah Although, you know, there is apparently one pretty effing awesome streamer that you could probably that that is assured to have it at one point. And ah he who has ears to hear, let him hear, as the fellow once said.
01:59:41
Speaker
Um, any, anything else? Oh, no, please. As you guys mentioned earlier, we're doing one more screening in the spooky season. Yes. Next Saturday, which is the day after Halloween. So all saints day, it'll be in Irvington, Indiana at the playground production studio. It's actually a location of ours.
02:00:01
Speaker
We used it for one of the calls, but it's also the recording booth where we shoot all of Lindsay's radio segments. So it's kind of special for that way. um it begins at six o'clock or doors open at six o'clock movie starts at 6 30 lindsey and i'll be there i think tucker's gonna attend i'll be there he'll be there so cast and crew will be on hand we'll have blu-rays and posters to sign and sell if you're interested um it's eight dollars at the door so not very much plus you get to meet everybody so yeah if you are in the central indiana area next saturday that's uh november 1st six o'clock playground productions check it out
02:00:38
Speaker
dude yeah Will you be taking card for that $8 or do I need to bring cash? That is a wonderful question. will you heard stop an atm I believe either should be fine. I'm not actually running this event like I did the double feature. This is somebody else's gig altogether, but I imagine either is fine.
02:00:56
Speaker
okay cool There will also be popcorn and alcohol if that's what you do with your life. I like all those things. I do that with my life. I've been doing that a lot tonight. Let's be clear.
02:01:07
Speaker
um ah I drank my werewolf bowl bourbon. I had my my vampire beer. And then I also had ah a pumpkin beer also. So, yeah. We're having a good time. Well, tis the season for all of those things.
02:01:20
Speaker
Correct. And i can't think of a better way to close out our fifth, sixth annual Spooky-thon. Yeah, you go. Season six.
02:01:31
Speaker
That's it. Yeah, this is our sixth season. We've been Brett. We started this thing 2020 and here it is 2025 and it's still going. Did you ever imagine that this would be going still?
02:01:44
Speaker
No, no, I never. To be honest with you. I don't know. Back when we covered Beetlejuice and the John Badham Dracula ah back in the first year of this podcast, did you ever think there would be six Spooky-thons? That's wild to me. No.
02:02:01
Speaker
I guess we got to do a movie now, according to community logic. Right. Yeah. fox six season see Six seasons in a movie. unly it's Now it's just what they do. feel no it would If only we knew a filmmaker. No, we'd have to do something like something because this there's no movie to what we do, much like that is correct. Science Theater 3000. So we'd have to try to do something like Mystery Science Theater 3000, the movie where it's just what we're doing now, only shorter and tighter.
02:02:33
Speaker
I don't know if that's something we're capable of, to be honest. No, if you give me while to work on it, I could make something great. Okay. Make disenfranchised great again?
02:02:45
Speaker
As a designated efficiency officer, we've got it we gotta to make it tighter. Yes. i I want to make it so tight. Honestly, um i finally got around to listening to that voice note today.
02:02:58
Speaker
And like I said, I cut about a minute out of it. And it was just dead air and like ums and like stammers and stuff. Yeah. But it was, I really had a good time cutting it because I'm good at it. And like, it feels good to be good at something and to do something proficiently. And and like, it comes out really well.
02:03:19
Speaker
And it made me kind of wish I did have time to make this podcast sound good. That's, that's, I mean, we we do five episodes of our show a year and it's about 80% of the production time is editing lines. So I understand exactly what you mean. It's all post cutting out breaths and ugly mouth noises and making everything faster and more. I don't know how to do anything other than ugly mouth noises, frankly.
02:03:49
Speaker
and let me tell you, you provide a, you provide everything else. That's, The voice work you do is indispensable, so you don't have to worry about that. So I've been told. um ah But that is, i think we've come to it. This has been our episode on. did it.
02:04:09
Speaker
We it. We did it. We did it.
02:04:13
Speaker
um And you know, it was longer than I expected it would be. Honestly. mean, that's what happens. Like, you only gave it like a two and a half, Stephen, I think, right? Three. But still, that's average. I'm sorry, a three. Yeah, that's like right there in the middle. So that's acceptable.
02:04:28
Speaker
We all came out pretty positive on this film. And when... when we're When we're not in disagreement, usually not for a long podcast that makes, but here we are at over two hours.
02:04:42
Speaker
Yeah. Here we are. We did it. We did it, everybody. did it. This has been our episode on My Boyfriend's Back, directed by Bob Balaban, starring all those people we mentioned earlier in the episode.
02:04:56
Speaker
Um, this, uh, I, uh, find us on social media at disenfranchised pod. We're on, I think just letterboxd, blue sky and YouTube these days. So find us in one of those three places, uh, join our Patreon, join the official conversation of the disenfranchised podcast over at patreon.com slash disenfranchised pod for absolutely no dollars down.
02:05:18
Speaker
You too can get every episode of the main feed in your ah Patreon feed and also ah talk to us directly. Leave um little messages for for us to respond to. Tucker and I usually do that.
02:05:31
Speaker
ah Or for just five bucks a month, you can also get access to our back catalog. In fact, the person joined... The person who you have seen guessing on this episode today was our very first patron ever. JP Leck, a proud patron. I don't know if he's engaged with all the content, but he sure has access to it all.
02:05:54
Speaker
So there you go. He's a patron.
02:05:58
Speaker
For just five bucks a month, you too can be a proud patron and get access to that entire back catalog. Again, patreon.com slash just in French pod. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on, um, no, just letterbox and blue sky at chewy walrus.
02:06:14
Speaker
Brett, I've been telling people not to look for you on socials. Is that still accurate? Yeah, basically. Okay. i'm kind of kind of sort of went back to Instagram, but not really. Okay.
02:06:25
Speaker
So no, don't bother. I'm nowhere to liking shit. I'm a ghost. shit I'm a ghost on the socials. Love that for you. well Ghosts. I mean, if you want to call me the goat of something, that's great. He is the goat. 13 ghosts with Tony Shalhoub-A-Lube and Matthew Lillard, the exchange they have.
02:06:45
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I should go. I haven't watched that in a while. That's too bad. It's a season. It does kind of fit our theme this month prior to this episode. It does.
02:06:59
Speaker
And I would have you guys haven't covered that, have you? We've not. Because I don't think it would have got. Is it on the list? It wouldn't have gotten a sequel. They could have made 14 ghosts. 14 goats. Yeah. fourteen goats but
02:07:14
Speaker
excuse me don't like that anyway i'm not on socials uh tucker yeah tucker you on the socials you know i'm still on the instagrams and the youtubes at ice 909 that's i c e n i n e the number zero and the number nine. Also tuck mugs still exists.
02:07:33
Speaker
Uh, tuck mugs on Instagrams. And Steven, do you remember what I texted you the other day? do related. Yes, I do. It was a travesty and I cried before I texted you.
02:07:47
Speaker
Not five minutes before that, before I discovered what I discovered, my plan was I'm going to make a cup of coffee. Yeah. This is going to go on tuck mugs. A hundred percent immediately where it's going.
02:07:59
Speaker
yeah And then motherfucking crack. Yep. Stay tuned. I'm going to get another one. You'll know what I'm talking about whenever I get back to Greenfield to get another mug. Because they had several.
02:08:12
Speaker
They did. At many different kiosks, too. I'm going to bring a little jug of water to make sure that none of the rest of them leak. I've got to test them because I'm not going to go all the way out there.
02:08:24
Speaker
Because from where I am in Fountain Square, that's... I mean, that's a good half hour, 45 minutes to Greenfield. That's a hole. Are you kidding me? It's a bit of a hole. i don't like to get on the interstate. like I can't blame you.
02:08:37
Speaker
Your boys are going to be 40. Right. e Okay. Calm down. state Calm down. Calm down. random road trip. All right.
02:08:50
Speaker
I do a lot of driving. So yeah, interstate's my jam. You travel all across the state of Indiana to film your little movies. Especially this week. I was on the vacation and we ah did a lot of driving.
02:09:03
Speaker
Yeah, i saw all your Instagram posts from... all on Instagram, are we? Went hiking. I'm the only one who mentions it. hiking if I just looked at it. I don't post on it.
02:09:15
Speaker
I don't really post on it. it' like i I'm on Facebook, but of course I'm not going to give that to anybody. And it cross-posts Instagram most of the time against my will. So I don't really post on there either. I check stuff out. i I don't want people to follow me on social media because or on ah on the meta meta stuff because I'm getting off there at the end of the year. I will no longer have a meta presence at the end of the year. So, yeah.
02:09:42
Speaker
Good for you. That's probably a wise move. I thought I was ah posing for Tucker's picture. and Tucker's taking a picture of us right now. That's tagging you all that.
02:09:53
Speaker
Okay. but Neat. But that is all she wrote for tonight. That is our episode on 1993 is my boyfriend's back.
02:10:05
Speaker
ah This has been the disenfranchised podcast. Joseph, Mr. JP like, thank you again so much for joining us. door is always open sir whenever you've got something you want to plug or just something you a movie you want to talk about let us know and we'll plug you in as soon as we can so door is pleasure thank you for having me back i love it always but always sir always love having you uh for like months once tucker joined the cast you became our number one fan you took tucker's place as our number one fan so right oh okay i can't because i can't be a fan anymore
02:10:38
Speaker
I can't. I want to be. He's in it. oh kind of he's He's a fan insofar as he's a fan of himself. Let's be clear. ah He joined the show and started to dislike the show. Is that what happened? No, I'm a fan of the show still, but not in the same way.
02:10:56
Speaker
yeah To the point to where someone is taking my place as unbiased to a certain point. as that As it is. As it were. as it tour ah cool So that is our episode. Very special. Thanks again to Mr. J.P. Leck. Always a pleasure to have him for our guest, J.P. Leck and for our hosts, ah Mr. Tucker and Mr. Brett Wright.
02:11:23
Speaker
Long may he reign. Of course, we know he's here every week. So we we always look forward to having him with us. I have been your host, Stephen Foxworthy. So until next time, ah that is the worst excuse for a sex fantasy I've ever seen.
02:11:39
Speaker
Damn right 715.
02:12:10
Speaker
Can you smell my breath?