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The One With The Promo Video
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Please excuse the audio shenanigan's at the beginning! One this episode Alasdair and DeeAnn talk about being on film, gifts we have received as teachers, and JACKETWATCH!
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Chaotic Jingle Opening
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Well, hello and welcome to the... Nope. What is happening here? What is happening? It was loud and it was... I don't even know. That was so loud in my headphones, the opening jingle. And I think we'll listen to your ears blowing off your head.
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They did! They did. They did. They did. And then I turned it all down and now I can't hear you. Oh, no. Let's see. I'm going to adjust the volume. Okay.
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So apparently if you adjust the volume, it automatically plays. We're learning something every day. that's Because every day school day. Every day is a school day. We're getting our lesson early on.
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Well, we're just going to leave all this in the podcast. Why not? ah Great. That is wonderful. To show what well-oiled machine we are over here at the Purple Door Podcast. Let me tell you what. We are basically professional.
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Pretty too much. Pretty much. That's what I'm thinking.
Podcast Introduction and Episode Overview
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Well, welcome to the Purple Door Podcast, a friend's rewatch pod, professional podcasters, as you can tell.
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um i am Alistair. Deanne, whose ears I've just blown off over there accidentally turning the volume all the way up. Goodness me, goodness me. Well, we are excited. We've got the one with the prom video.
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It's a big one. It's a huge one. It's a pivotal episode. Extremely, extremely. And I was so excited last week whenever I realized that that's what was coming up next. it's So I am pumped.
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It's a low-key thrill in my life when I don't know what one's coming next, and then we look it up, and it's a good one. So I'm right there with you.
Trivia and Episode Details
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puts a smile on my face. Yeah, the one with the prom video. All right.
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You told me how many questions you have for me before we got on the air. but Why don't you tell us again? Okay. I only have six, but I spent a lot of time...
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focusing on the, they had the voiceover one. And so I've got like bunch of fun facts about this episode and all of that, but I've only got six questions for bamboozles.
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All right. This is very unusual for me. I have 13 questions for bamboozles. Wow. Okay. Well then you can go first. All right. I will go first and I'm hoping I don't have any of yours or at least in just one or two at that.
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All right.
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Joey gives Chandler some money. what What three things does he say the money is for? Oh, that was going to be one of my questions. Right. Headshots, electric bills, and more slices of pizza than he can count.
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Ding, ding, ding. And I chose that question because I thought you might choose another question. But we'll see. And I didn't. I didn't ask that one either. My number's question is, how many times did Roy, who is Monica's date to prom,
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see Star Wars, and get his name in the paper.
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I remember kind of hearing that and thinking I should take note, and I didn't. 300 and... l No, no, I was going to say 200 and something, so I'm wrong.
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Go! Well, that's all right. I gave you a hint. 317. Oh, my seventeen
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is it
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That must have been locked away somewhere. I was going to say 317. Yes, 317. Nice job. Nice job. it's Subliminally, I guess I somehow knew something. I got part of it.
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um This one is courtesy of Kate. She gets the credit. She noticed this. This is a difficult one. Okay. After she's saying some of our questions were too difficult, this is tricky.
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At the interview Monica goes to, What type of food is listed on the green board behind the interviewer? There's lots of different type of something. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. There's lots of things listed.
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it's It's all a certain type of food. um Is it Italian food? It is. It is not Italian food.
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um it is The main part of a dish, and it's going to change every week. Chicken. Oh, you're get you're getting close. I think you're to get on your next guess. if you might If you don't have chicken, you might have...
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Steak? Beef? Turkey? Fish? Fish. Different kinds of fish. And seafood. close.
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So close. You got it. and one I think one of them was lobster, but the rest were halibut and salmon, and every day was listed. Seafood. Seafood. All different kinds of seafood. All All right. What have you got for me?
Monica's Interview and Set Design Insights
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What color was Rachel's prom dress?
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I don't have that written down by Phyllis. I'm picturing some kind of baby blue. Blue. Blue. Excellent. Excellent. It was. It was. Sure was. All right.
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See, okay. Yeah. Are y'all doing the Summer I Turned Pretty? I know Kate was. ah She is. I've not seen it. She she watches it with Lou and some friends.
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Okay. Yes. Well, it's the color of of what the main character is wearing is a huge deal in all the TikTok things that I follow. Okay.
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And blue was one of the colors that she wears and the red is the other. that's why I, it was important. Very good to know. Good to know.
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um get My third question for you. When Ross asks Casey on the phone, how he spells his name, what are the two options that Ross says? ah Casey with a C or Casey like Casey or in the sunshine band.
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So you definitely get... Oh, no, Casey at the bat. That's it. Like at the bat or and the sunshine band. That's the one. Nicely done. Yep, yep, yep. I like it.
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Because that's what I was thinking in my head is, oh, that's Casey with a C or Casey with a K. Right. by All right. What's the inscription on the bracelet?
Ross and Rachel's Relationship Significance
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Just best buds.
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No. Close. Yeah. Best buds forever? To my best buds. To my best. I knew wasn't quite was like, there's more to it than best buds. Oh, close.
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All right. how many showers does Monica say it took to get the interview off of her? Five. Five indeed. All right. all right Why did Jack and Judy bring over the boxes of Monica's stuff?
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That's related to my next question. Because they're turning her room into a gym. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, very good. And I'm going ask you, e how many boxes?
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And B, who was carrying how many boxes?
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Okay. Was Jack carrying two and Judy was carrying three? you got Jack was carrying two. Okay. Judy was... Judy, she wasn't carrying like three, like a normal size one and then two
Chandler's Bracelet Chaos
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small ones.
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I thought she was just carrying one box, one normal size box. was Did I miss some on top? No, maybe not. i'm I'm not going to swear to it. I will not. ah um All right.
00:08:04
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Some double checking will do. Hey, I got trivia wrong two weeks ago. Remember I said the dragon boy had a clock. yeah That is true. I'm very aware. but yes, it's funny though. Funny that that was both of our next questions. Something to do with that.
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Uh-huh. All right. How long have Ross and Rachel been broken up
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Okay.
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Three months. Two months. Two months. i knew it was months. Two months. Two months. Two months. All right. We're going to go back a little bit to the old, uh, the gym situation here.
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What three types of objects prevented the gallows from using Ross's room as the gym? Oh, no. I know there are trophies. Science trophies. That's one. okay And they're related. It's all in the same area. Okay.
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Were there science projects? There were not. Was there dinosaur bones? that's No, but that does bring up something interesting later on. Okay, I have no idea.
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just know the trophies. It's a bit niche. The science trophies, plaques, and merit badges. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. Those are the things.
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Okay. um What kind of checks does Ross have? He has dinosaur checks. You learn a little something.
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Yes, yes. And then I have one more. I just put in another one. Oh, excellent. Well, I'm going to ask you, where is it? Because I want to make sure it's due to the nature of Ross's checks and the amount he wrote.
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What's Monica's quick nickname for him? Cheapasaurus. Cheapasaurus.
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All right. At the very end of the episode, Monica's watching the show you know, the video yeah
Iconic Prom Video Scene
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there you go. Uh, what's she eating?
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hello Ah, is it? I feel this is not specific enough, but maybe ice cream. who Is it ice cream?
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It is. It is. ah chocolate It's chocolate ice cream. Okay. Chocolate ice cream. Okay. Hey, there we go. Nice. Nice. All right. Well, I've still got six questions for you. Oh my goodness.
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All right. All right. What two items does Chandler say Joey could have got them instead of the bracelet, AKA the woman repeller?
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ah Was that whenever he was going off about Liberace is how to crap? I think so. Yeah. When he's kind of venting to Phoebe. Oh yeah.
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Two things. One, I assume he already owns and two, I don't know why he would. Oh no. Whenever he's going off, you could have gotten me a VCR. Oh, He could have gotten me golf clubs. That's it.
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but Chandler seems like the kind of having just bought the very expensive laptop we discussed a few episodes ago, he would own a VCR, you would think. And I don't know, maybe he maybe he was or is a golfer, but that never seems like you know something and and something that's ever brought up that you would want to sit at golf clubs.
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Although now I say this out loud, am I making this up? Or is there a scene where he's practicing his swing in the living room and Rachel slams the door and the club kind of flies over his head because he told somebody that she wasn't looking for a serious relationship?
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Maybe he's not got a real club. And he's like, yeah, I absolutely did. I absolutely did say that. Do you know I'm talking about? egg I just remember him taking a backswing and she slams the door and whatever he's holding flies out of his hand.
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Oh. Okay. So I know that shortly, like, she's going to, it's going to be Joey and her and there's somebody on this set of Days of Our Lives.
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And she's going to be like, I can't believe you told him. i don't know I think it's related to that. We'll have to okay have to see. andwid We digress. we digress I just didn't know he was a golfer.
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um According to Jack Geller, who has quite the touche.
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That would be Steffi Graf. It would be. It's right It's right there. yeah Right before the right before the what home insurance commercial or home mortgage commercial or something.
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I couldn't quite catch what that was. Like I listened to it twice. Yeah. Yeah. It just wasn't sure what this commercial was that he loves. Um, right. I got four more for you.
00:13:12
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How much did Chandler spend on the replacement bracelet? $400. $400. Nicely hundred dollars four hundred dollars nicely done Thank you, thank you. In the throwback video, the prom video, what does Monica get on Rachel's shoulder, but thankfully not her dress?
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Oh, some mayonnaise. Mayonnaise, yes. It is. All right. one is obscure and very unfair, but I just noticed it, so I'm asking.
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um When young Ross in the prom video comes out of his bedroom in the tux, there is a very large object hanging on the wall behind him. What?
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It's bigger than the door frame. What is that object? I have clue. I'll give you guess because it's something very Ross-related. Is it a dinosaur bone?
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It's a pterodactyl, a model of a pterodactyl. Oh, wow. Four feet across, like hanging on his wall. It's all you can see. takes up the whole wall. Wow. Okay. So just, I'm really just asking that question because I noticed it.
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but i'm Okay. Now this one, I like this question a lot without tooting my own horn. I think it's just because I do like this episode a lot. Without, if we take away the Monica seeing the video eating ice cream credits scene, not including that, what's the final sentence said in this episode?
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Is it, he's her lobster? See, he's her lobster. Yes, that's well done. Nice. I just, that that one's such a good way to end the episode, I thought, you know. Yes, yes. Yes.
00:14:59
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Well, that was awesome you met You got a lot of these right. I wish I'd actually get a score with this one because that was a lot of questions and you were just knocking them out the park. Well, like I said, I really enjoyed this episode. It's a good one. and I liked watching it.
00:15:17
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kind of combing through all the things. So I'm excited. Yeah, this is this is a good one. Yes. And it's funny, again, I know this episode pretty well.
00:15:28
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And literally looking down at my notes just now, i've just I get something that's just occurred to me. Because we're going start off in the boys' apartment. um Chandler's playing foosball, I guess, with nobody, which is kind of awesome. With nobody. Okay, so I was going to ask you which team scored the goal.
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i was and yeah that's not fair that's too hard but it was the red team it was the red team okay now we have had a discussion about the top of that table yes and it being the plexiglass and all of that yes um did you notice that there's a chair sitting at there at that table So I did notice the chair. Yes.
00:16:13
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Yeah. So that made me wonder. I bet that it's totally doubling as yeah and an eating area. I think so. I agree.
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um Yeah. I get but we say this every week. I need to look at the the decoration and the furniture a bit carefully. Oh, yeah. I have things to say about the boys' apartment, though.
00:16:36
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Good, because I noticed one thing, but I'm kind of vague on what... I just know because of the episode next week, I noticed something this week, which we'll get to. So I'm excited to hear what you have to say.
00:16:50
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Okay. Well, i tell what is there anything in the kitchen that you noticed? Okay. Well, and it's not even that. So whenever i would i whenever I was listening to, they had the one of the, like, ah what's it called? Special features or whatever.
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They had a voiceover by David Crane and then one of the girls, the had the head people. And so they go over it. And they talk a little bit about how like the decor changed in the second season of the boys' apartment and the girls' apartment. Right.
00:17:28
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And they talked about how they've added in so many things into the boys' apartment. But it's been so very um specifically tailored because to really give the impression that they don't have much money.
00:17:43
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so everything's cheap and mismatched. And um just kind of eclectic and random. And so that was very um intentional whenever they're setting it up. But they said that the second season is they've made a lot of changes, but they've finalized the layout of the apartment and all of that. And then the interior decorating is, um you know, cheap.
00:18:14
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It's interesting, yeah, because they change lots of small things all the time. But then also yeah in season one, I'm sure we discussed this, the actual layout of the bathroom completely changes.
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Like at yeah one point, the shower is there, then the
Friends Set Design Evolution
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toilet is where the shower was and things like that. yeah yeah i love the nuances of the stuff that changes in there um which we will discuss we need to make point discussing that a lot next week because of next week's um in addition to this week but next week furniture changes and that's a big part of the Oh, I bet. Because now they're making, now Joey's making money. Right.
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So things change. ah Okay. Well, and they also talked about the interior of the girls apartment and how they switched out a bunch of the furniture and painted to make everything brighter.
00:19:08
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And, um, and then there was something else and I was like, Oh, and these are just, um, extras on the DVD. Uh huh.
00:19:18
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Yeah. Yeah. where they were just talking through that. um They tried to make it, oh, and then they've also been ah like during this time, like partway through season two, they started doing like intentional things with the set and the camera to make it more cinematic and not so choppy sitcom-y.
00:19:40
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Okay. To make it more like a movie. I love it. That's so interesting. Yeah. I love these little changes. um As you alluded to, Joey is making some money and he walks in with, what is $812 for Chandler? Sure.
00:19:58
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Yep. yeah Now, a couple of things. it's just Literally right now, it's just occurred to me that poor old Chandler gets this money, then has to spend half of it on a bracelet he doesn't want. ah Like the joy so sort of giveth and taketh away at this moment.
00:20:14
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Right. So that's just occurred to me. Now, question for you. um that There's quite a kind of funny joke that Big Leon says it's an even thousand if you want him for the night or something.
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um But then Chandler says... Now, I asked Kate about this. Does he say, oh, now I can get that pony or something? Yeah. Is that just like because that's expensive thing or is there some kind of inside joke I'm missing there?
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Oh, I thought it was just a joke because it was a bunch of money. Right. That's kind of what I was thinking. Like, it was maybe just a joke. but then I know in Seinfeld there's a very famous joke about, you know, I had a pony.
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And I was like, am I missing a connection here? But i think i think it's just a joke too. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. um But then Joey does. Oh, good Lord. I've written it down.
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Joey to my best bud. um Could have got this. Oh, no. all the hours I feel like I like trying to do it memory. Joey brings out the to my best bud gold bracelet.
00:21:18
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And Chandler tries to hide it in the drawer. Yeah. Now, I'm just going to gloss over this very gently. I do think Chandler's sex life joke is very funny.
00:21:32
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There's a couple of jokes that are made in this episode. that they said was pushing some boundaries. And that was one of them. That was one of them. It is. I think it's a good joke. Like, it's not like just a shock factor joke.
00:21:49
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Like, to me, it's it's very funny. I like this one. of It did get me thinking, can you think of a gift you've ever received that you had to pretend to love?
00:22:02
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No, I have loved every, no, that's a lie. That's a lie. We're in education now. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Golly. And i I can't, I can't think of, oh my gosh, actually, do you know what?
00:22:20
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I do have a good one. One of my students, whenever I was very first teaching and I taught middle school, middle school kids don't give teachers gifts. Right. Like that's just,
00:22:31
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the older they are, less that happens. I died whenever I went to elementary school, I was like, what is happening? And why are these children bringing me things?
00:22:42
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Right? um and So I'm teaching in this, in this, a boy comes in one day, and he's got a bag. And he opens it up, and he starts pulling out these boxes.
00:22:56
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And they are Limited edition NSYNC bobbleheads from Best Buy. And so he pulls out all five of them. And he's like, Miss Walsh, these are for you.
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And I was like, well, thanks. That's awesome. And he's like, yeah. My mom works at Best Buy. And so she got these. They they are limited edition.
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And I know how much you like bobbleheads. No, I don't. Right. and you love this kind of music. No, I didn't. um But I was like, thank you so much.
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And um do you know that those NSYNC bobblehead dolls for the last 20 years have been in every single room I have ever taught in or worked in? I have seen those bobbleheads.
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i Yep, I've seen them. Yep. and um And now i would I would just be devastated if something happened to them. But at the time, I was like, what in the world am I going to do with these giant bobblehead dolls of of ah band I don't even care for? Right. um Yeah.
00:24:09
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So there you go. That's awesome. I love it. I love that i've seen those and didn't know the story behind them. I assumed you like you liked them. No. Not at all.
00:24:21
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No. No. And, and it you know, I was working at that school whenever I met Joseph. And um that was one of the things he would tease me about. He would come in my room whenever I was out of my room.
00:24:38
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And he would move them around my room. And then he would call them my Backstreet Boy dolls. yeah And um one day whenever I came in, he had cut out pictures like the faces of all the Backstreet Boy dolls or Backstreet Boy guys and taped them on my bobbleheads and then had them facing out my window.
00:25:01
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So whenever I went to go move them, they were Backstreet Boy dolls. lot love I love this so much. I still have three of those faces like taped on the bottom and they have their very own shelf in my office now.
00:25:16
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That's kind of perfect. ah Yeah, it makes me very happy. And when you retire, they're going to have to move into some a box in your house or something. You won't be able to get rid of them. No, not at all. They'll get their own shelf somewhere in this house.
00:25:30
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That is perfect. I love it. um yeah What about you, Elle? I need to hear a good, oh goodness, gift. I'm going to have to think about it. The only thing I can think of, and this isn't anywhere near your the Backstreet Boys story, is I had an awesome student who was from or is from Thailand, and he used to bring in exotic snacks for his his mid-morning snack in third grade.
00:25:59
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Okay. And he would always offer them to me, always. And A, I'm not going eat a kid's snack. B, I'm not going to eat a snack that's been half open and already half, you know,
00:26:10
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Yeah, I had little fingers. For multiple reasons, I'm not the snack. But I also don't want to make them feel bad. So I would always go oh, that looks really interesting. You know, but no, thank you. You know, I can't eat your snack. But oh that's, you know, I divert it away to being interested in the snacks.
00:26:28
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And one of the snacks, now I'm sure some people love this, was just dried seaweed. ah her Right? Not my favorite thing in the world, but I kind of i think I oversold it.
00:26:41
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i was like, oh, I'd love some, but I can't. So you know, next time he went down to Carrollton, suburb up of Dallas, where he told me he goes to the Asian market, he brought back, I wouldn't say a case, but a lot.
00:26:55
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There was a lot of dried seaweed on my desk the next day. And he would ask me every, you know, when they have their snack, what are you going to eat yours? And you can eat yours. So I would, yeah, was very sweet.
00:27:09
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So for quite a long time, I had to to nibble on some some dried seaweed that was not my favorite thing in the world. But I'm sure it's good for you. can't go right It's a thing now.
00:27:22
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Like we see that all over cafeteria now. Interesting. He was ahead of his at ed time. Yeah, he was. ah yeah he was Yeah, a good kid. you We will discuss this off the air because you might know who it was.
00:27:36
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It was at the school we walked out together for a bit, so we'll see. um But speaking of seaweed, this is a terrible segue. We're going to a restaurant where Mark is making a salad, right? She's got her interview.
00:27:51
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Now, this is... I love this scene because this character, whose name has suddenly gone out my head, is... um Noel from Frasier. Yes. Okay. I was going to say, his name is Patrick Kerr. And the reason that he has this job, they had an entire storyline planned out for Monica with him.
00:28:17
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But then the way that they would do it is they'd come up with all these lines and storylines and jokes and things like that. And then whenever they'd go to put this episode together,
00:28:29
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they'd be They would look at like how many stories, how many, law ah you know, all that to try to make sure that it was equal between all of the cast people.
00:28:41
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Right. so So Patrick Kerr actually had, like, it was a bigger, longer storyline, but they ended up changing it because they didn't need that big of a storyline with Monica in this episode.
00:28:56
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But they still did this the scene. And he agreed to go and like cut it from a storyline to a scene. And he was friends with Matt LeBlanc because they had done the movie Ed together about the monkey playing baseball.
00:29:14
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I remember the preview that. that's I didn't know about the movie. Noel a... noel is ah he plays a, wouldn't say creepy, yeah kind of, he's he's not sure where his boundaries are with women in Frasier because, you know, he's just super nerd, he's super into Star Trek, so sometimes says kind of,
00:29:39
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inappropriate things because he doesn't really know he's a bit like this character just kind of oogie and creepy but not not necessarily in a malicious horrible way just kind of of just oogie yeah not quite sure what the word is um oogie is a probably a very accurate description yeah um yeah with Whenever I pulled him up and I was looking at, and I saw he's like in 22 episodes of Frasier.
00:30:10
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Right. And I was like, I bet Owl will know who this is. Yeah. He's... There's one of my favorite all-time Frasier's. He loves Roz, played by Perry Gilpin.
00:30:23
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like He's just got this longing affection for her. And there's one episode where the character Bulldog, who's played by Dan Butler, ke is roasting Roz because she's leaving the radio station.
00:30:37
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and he just loses his ever-loving mind because he cannot stand the woman he loves being roasted and it's just one of those the physical comedy it's one of my favorite scenes of all time how cute yeah he's a he's a really really i'd like to see him in other roles which i'm sure he's done tremendously he's done a lot yeah he's ah just just tremendous is uh is a null um I don't really know what cutting the tomatoes, tomatoes, julienne is. I could have looked it up, but haven't.
00:31:09
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Yeah, so it's I think it's the little, ah like, wedge things, isn't it Okay, and mean it might well be, you know. I might be lying. Who knows? Sounds good to me. I'm on board.
00:31:21
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We just know it's not strictly slicing. Mm-hmm. but Yeah, it's funny you bring that because i did think I was like, Matt, I could have ah could have done with a bit more of that. Like I could see that being ah a strong subplot to the to the prom video. But then again, the prom video isn't really, even though that's like the big moment, we don't find out about this video until right at the end.
00:31:47
Speaker
um So I would have liked to have seen more of that. It's a shame it didn't play out that this is a great episode um the way they did it. Uh, we go over to the girls apartment. Ross is taking this message from Casey.
00:32:00
Speaker
Um, and then Chandler and Phoebe are in the living room. Um, it's a Chandler that does that, you know, the whole sort of, you know, let's do a little dance, you know, besides the lines from that song.
00:32:15
Speaker
Um, and yeah, Ross is frustrated that he and Rachel just not together. Um, You know, I try to be very diplomatic with Ross. It can be hard at times.
00:32:27
Speaker
um But I guess he does genuinely, you know, some genuine frustration. But Phoebe's like, don't you worry about it. Don't you worry about the, lot you know, you're you're each other's lobster.
00:32:38
Speaker
um I did a little looking into this and it's not, it's... I did... If you did too, it's not strictly true, but this they said that the thing I read was like, you know, they do hold, you will see them holding, but bit it's more of just a social thing, older lobsters and young lobsters, like guiding them around the tank or something, or the, the, the ocean, I suppose.
00:33:01
Speaker
It's more of that rather than they are monogamous for life once they find their lobster. Yeah. yeah It's sweet, though. I was a little disappointed. i feel like maybe I've looked that up before and then I forgot.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah. so So my hope is that I will forget again. but Life is just a little sweeter when we think the lobsters walk around holding their sweetheart's claw and just wander around the ocean. Yeah.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah, everything's a little brighter. I like it. Yeah. um This is where Monica comes out the bathroom having to, you know, that fifth shower washed off, you know. Yes.
00:33:42
Speaker
And, you know, Ross offers to lend Monica money and she won't. um So I do quite like Ross's bit here, but you know, you're awkward around them man anyway or whatever it is. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
00:33:54
Speaker
it exactly yes and then comes the best part whatever he flings his arm out and the bracelet falls off and all of the beautiful one-liners that come out the goodfellas one is one of my favorites i like the one wow that must have cost you a few double like oh like a divorce and then like it divorce Oh, Gabor's sister.
00:34:22
Speaker
And, ah like, oh, it's so funny. Yeah. its I love all the jokes about the bracelet throughout the entire episode. episode i do. And I love that.
00:34:33
Speaker
I think we all either have or desire that group of friends in our life where if you do something that's potentially embarrassing or silly or make a mistake and they just roast you immediately with great gags.
00:34:46
Speaker
I think we all need people like that in our lives. Yeah. yeah it's ah It's a love language thing. I think when you can do that with people. um We are, we sort changed scenes, but still in the girls' apartment. Jack and Judy come on over with maybe three boxes, maybe five. We'll go back and have a look.
00:35:05
Speaker
um And talking about, yeah, turning Ross's room into the into a gym Now, Monica's room.
00:35:16
Speaker
And again, it's one of the many reasons I love doing this podcast with you is now thinking through, we do see the gym, right? Don't we see Phoebe on it? Yeah, it just occurred to me. So that gym story does, um um can't remember what episode that is or why Phoebe is at the Geller's house.
00:35:36
Speaker
Yeah, I don't i don't know. Maybe she's catering or something. Oh. Uh-huh. It is, isn't it? Is that whenever she meets um Richard or whenever they find out about Richard? Could be, could be.
00:35:53
Speaker
Whenever she's dating Richard and and then her parents find out? Yeah, could be because she's the Twinkie in the city. Yeah, yes, she is. Yeah. Nice.
00:36:06
Speaker
Yeah, and we'll talk about this a little later. I just, I like the gallows. I like Jack in particular. I like that he's so, to me, he's so well-meaning and kind of, not goofy, but he puts his foot in it accidentally quite a bit and then tries to work his way out. Like, you know, sorry to hear about your parents. Maybe it was that thing in Hawaii. Yes.
00:36:26
Speaker
You know, and then just, oh, but somebody else, maybe it was me. Yeah, I don't know. Anybody else, go go fold your laundry. Right. yeah They, yeah on the and the, I don't commentary? I don't know what to call it, but like where they're talking over it.
00:36:43
Speaker
They talk about how, just how great he is as an actor and just what a great character Jack is. because Yeah. and But part of it is because he's just dim, right?
00:36:55
Speaker
He's kind of dim. He's yeah yeah dim, but lovable. And like we don't see him that much in the grand scheme of things. But we will when Monica, is it when she breaks up with Richard and he comes over?
00:37:10
Speaker
Yes. And yeahd like he just adores them. He adores her. He's so proud of Ross. We can tell. This little farm Monica. Whenever Nana died.
00:37:20
Speaker
And then they were there together. And, oh, yeah. And he kind of sticks up. He's going to give her the Porsche. And, yeah. He sticks up for Monica when Judy's a little...
00:37:31
Speaker
a little, little meaner. I feel I don't mean means maybe too strong, but a little more critical, you know, it's not the nicest loving. Whereas Jack is, I think kind of ignores that he doesn't make a big deal, but you let Monica know that he, you know, the apple of his eye.
00:37:48
Speaker
And I, I just, I love it. I love it. Um, Now, speaking of things I don't necessarily love, in the next, I may be jumping too far ahead, so of course, tell me if my notes, if I've missed something.
00:38:02
Speaker
Phoebe has spotted this woman checking out Chandler. Yes. Well, this is the other joke that was pushing the line. Right. And that, because she uses a word that you, that you were not allowed to use for like three or four years. And apparently you weren't allowed and then you were allowed and then you weren't allowed again for like three or four years intra they said they don't know why and then that ban went away and they don't know why like why it was going back and forth but um i wonder if when it was replayed on the television during the ban if they kind of muted that word out you know changed it
00:38:46
Speaker
Oh, that's a good question. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. It jumped out at me. That's jarring for the context of Friends. um You know, those who didn't watch it, just just an appendage, a biological term, nothing crass, but it stands out, um you know, because that's just not the language they use on the show.
00:39:09
Speaker
Right. Absolutely. Now she says 11 o'clock. What bugged me first of all was the way that they were facing. 12 o'clock ahead of you. So that would be like five or six o'clock if it's behind Right.
00:39:23
Speaker
Well, and but if she was facing her, that would be 11 o'clock.
00:39:30
Speaker
and But to so really it should have been what? 12, six, five. I would have thought 5 o'clock, but I might not be thinking about this the correct way.
00:39:42
Speaker
you know Yeah, because she's not yeah facing the right way for it to have been 11. Yeah, to me, 12 o'clock is straight ahead of you, wherever you're looking, and then 6 o'clock would be directly behind you.
00:39:55
Speaker
Right. Yeah, and it would have made sense for 11 o'clock if she was sitting directly across from him, then that would be her 11 o'clock, but she wasn't.
00:40:07
Speaker
That's not where she was. That's not where she was. When Chandler goes over, I do like his kind of opening. What's his name? Dave Thomas. Dave Thomas, the founder of Wendy. and like that's that's That's a good opening line. I like that. I'd like to think about it. He's not coming off off in a weird way.
00:40:32
Speaker
and no i just I don't like this lady. I don't like this lady. All he has on is a gold bracelet. And you're not willing to find out like a little more about this guy. You obviously think he's attractive.
00:40:43
Speaker
And you think he's got something about him. Yeah, but it's New York in the ninety s You gotta, I mean, if there's a red flag, that's a waving in your face. You're not going to waste your time trying to see you what, what's the story behind this red flag?
00:41:01
Speaker
Right. you know That's fair enough. She's living in in Manhattan. and Yeah. Yeah. just type So I don't judge her for that. Right. I see. I see your point. I do see your point there.
00:41:13
Speaker
Um, Let's see, but after she leaves, is that after she leaves, Chandler vents to Phoebe. guy And this was so funny, though, because, yeah, he starts the woman repellent, the eyesore from Liberace's house of crap.
00:41:31
Speaker
And then he's doing his Mr. T impression whenever he brought the Joey walks in Yes. I will, you know, the next scene, right? We get into this a bit more. I do feel bad for Joey because that's, it's like embarrassing.
00:41:45
Speaker
It's not that just Chandler doesn't like It's the way he's kind of mocking it. Oh, yeah. Okay. I feel bad for him. what And Marcel Marceau comes up twice in this episode, and this is the first time.
00:41:59
Speaker
That's right, where he him the impression. Mm-hmm, because he says, I'm doing the impressions. Do your Marcel Marceau. Do you know who Marcel Marceau is? I know he's a famous mime.
00:42:12
Speaker
I didn't know that. So it made me laugh whenever I figured out, i whenever I found that out. And then I was like, oh, my God, when he goes, that's actually pretty good. Yeah.
00:42:23
Speaker
That was funny. Yeah. From like, from like a long time ago, right? Like maybe a hundred years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is French. Yes. Yeah. And he kind of does the whole like hands on the glass thing in my head. i don't know if he actually does.
00:42:38
Speaker
Um, I feel, feel like maybe seen a clip or something or I don't know. Um, but, yeah, I really feel for Joey in the, ultimate it's about two scenes.
00:42:51
Speaker
Um, time we'll get into that um yeah i'm trying to think now i'm thinking where do i know marcel marceau from i've just seen a clip i suppose yeah yeah i have no idea but i'm very impressed that you know that because he's a french mime from a really long time ago please um we're still at central park but we kind of moved into a new scene I think I know where I was going to ask you a question.
00:43:19
Speaker
I think I know the answer to um basically talk me through this, but Rachel's fighting with a guy at Ross comes and saves her. Yeah. I know my view on this. What do you think?
00:43:32
Speaker
Man. Okay. I don't know. saw And the first time that I watched it, I was like, Oh, he's so annoying. What a dork. And all of that.
00:43:43
Speaker
But then The second time I watched it, I actually listened to what he was saying to Phoebe. And I genuinely think that he was trying to rescue her from some guy that would not leave and was too close.
00:44:00
Speaker
You know? Okay. And so the first time I watched it, I was like, oh, God. But then the second time, i was like, i I think he actually thought he was doing a good thing.
00:44:16
Speaker
Again, we don't want to sort of stereotype, but it is New York. And maybe there's something like, maybe this guy was just being a little forward. don't know. All right. I'm holding on to the arms of my chair so I don't fall out because I'm not happy with Ross and you're defending him.
00:44:33
Speaker
you know So that this is a good situation. I like it. And okay, so in the commentary about this scene, she's like, we'll kind of get through it, but um she started off and the she was saying, he's inappropriate and he's overbearing, but you're rooting for him because like you you see that, or you know you kind of feel that he's genuinely trying to do right by her.
00:45:03
Speaker
And I'm like, Yeah, guess. I guess. But, you know. But yeah in this moment. and you I mean, his heart is in the right place. Yeah. floors, Rachel.
00:45:15
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. Okay. I do enjoy seeing that. Because I don't remember exactly what he said to Phoebe. So, obviously, that's an important. Oh, well, and he's like, God, you know, that guy's been standing there talking to her and she's at work and all of that. And then he's like, see?
00:45:33
Speaker
Like she pushed him and he didn't even budge. Well, she didn't push him. she was She was probably laughing and like playfully, you know. But what he sees is like, you know, her trying to push him away and he's not taking the hint.
00:45:51
Speaker
Right. And then I was like. Come on, man. Come on. Yeah. Right. But I think he genuinely thought that. So. Yeah. No, I'm coming around to it I can see that.
00:46:04
Speaker
um Yeah. Something I'm not coming around to. Again, an awful segue in the next scene. Did you notice what Joey is wearing? Okay, but wait. Oh, there's more. We're not done with this. Of course we're not. I didn't write it down, but they go to the ah the counter. Yeah.
00:46:18
Speaker
Yeah, because then he goes up and he does the whole thing about how she's from the ad and just kind of gets Yeah, and it's all awkward and then he leaves and she's mad and so she walks over to the counter so he follows her over there and then she's like, you know, he's like I was Saving you and she's I'm not yours to save And he's like but you ah you're my lobster And then he starts like being all dorky and she's like, whatever. So she walks off and he follows her. And then she's like, you got to figure it out. You know, you, um, I fell for you and I get clobbered and then you fall for me and somehow I still get clobbered. So we're never going to happen.
00:47:03
Speaker
You need it. Or she goes, accept that. And then she stops and he's like, accept what? She's like, no, no, no, no. Accept. Kate loves that line, that accept, accept, accept, that interaction. She's like, that was clever. That was well done.
00:47:21
Speaker
Oh, so well done, but heartbreaking at the same time. it's I mean, ugh. And it was, the thing that struck me was that I don't think Rachel was out of line at all.
00:47:34
Speaker
No. do I made that clear, but it probably, her reaction is probably due to that, you know again, the Barry thing, everything was done for her, decisions were made, and she's broken free.
00:47:46
Speaker
So Ross, to me, would that could have come across as like her old life. Wow. You know, so it's all so she's going to have ah an appropriate reaction to that of, no, no, I've i've left that.
00:47:59
Speaker
Um, Yeah. Yeah. i'm not going to be controlled. I'm not going told who I can see or not see. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I'm glad that you love that accepted except because that was that stood out to Kate this morning when we watched it. Yeah.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was good. It was good and heartbreaking. and It is. yeah And then it's making me root for him again, which is so annoying. Right.
00:48:25
Speaker
You hate it when you like him. I hate that. You don kids you do see it. I think I feel that he doesn't always communicate very well. Like sometimes he's just a jerk.
00:48:37
Speaker
He does love her. And you can see it at this point. Like he just wants to be with her. Yeah. So, yeah, they kind Rachel has drawn a line in the sand like it's just not happening.
00:48:51
Speaker
um We go to one one of my favorite scenes where Chandler's trying to make things up to Joey. ah Did you notice what Joey was wearing?
00:49:06
Speaker
Was he wearing a coat? He was wearing the oversized, ugly coat that he's worn for the past couple of episodes, like at the wedding Oh, that brown thing. Yeah, yeah. The one that we just ate. Yeah, don't let that go.
00:49:21
Speaker
Don't let that go. That's a terrible jacket. Right. Yeah. um Yeah, Kate has has ah officially declared herself as as the head of Jacket Watch.
00:49:32
Speaker
She's going to look out for that from now Awesome. Just so you know, that's our official role on the podcast now. Excellent. Excellent. Okay. Who do you think is in the right here? Do you side with either of them? Are they both kind of right, both kind wrong to be, like for Joey to be upset?
00:49:49
Speaker
Was Chandler out line? where you Where do you land on this?
00:49:55
Speaker
Man... Joey's got a point. If you hated it, you should have just said so. But I understand Chandler not wanting to hurt his feelings. I'm im yeah right there with you.
00:50:06
Speaker
That's why asked. yeah Yeah. I mean, I don't know. and To me, the big issue was that Chandler was making fun of him. And Joey kind of brings that up. Like, you made fun of it.
00:50:17
Speaker
You know, to Phoebe. He doesn't say to Phoebe, that's when you did it. And that I think that would hurt my feelings. Like, if I got Kate the gift and she didn't like it, You know, I'm not going to hit a home run every time.
00:50:30
Speaker
You know, I'm okay with that. But I think if she said she loved it and then I walked in and she was telling you that it came from the Liberace House of Crap, that would hurt my feelings. Right, right. To me, Joey is perfectly reasonable to be very upset with how Chandler handled himself not liking it.
00:50:50
Speaker
Yeah. and I think. But on the other hand, if i was Chandler, I would have probably told Joey I liked it too because he's doing such a nice thing.
00:50:59
Speaker
Yeah. it's it's ah It's a tricky, tricky situation. It is. We're over back in the girls' apartment. um Monica ends up telling her parents that she got fired.
00:51:12
Speaker
Although she says, yeah, i don't work there anymore because they won't let me or something. Yeah, no. Yeah, I don't work there anymore. She goes, yeah, why not? Because they told, what'd she say? I left my job or i and why? Well, because they told me I had to.
00:51:28
Speaker
Something like that. Yeah. yeah It was funny. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And again, Jack tries to help out. You know, he assumes that everyone's able to save 10%. It's no problem.
00:51:40
Speaker
um I'm going to safely assume that Monica has not been doing that. Oh, yeah. You know, I get it. And then he, you know, pulls out, was it a quarter or a penny something? I don't know, from behind her ear.
00:51:52
Speaker
um Again, sweet Jack. Like he's, you know, um I don't know. Do you think... I was trying to think about this. do Do you think she didn't borrow money from them and then from Ross or she borrowed some, but she couldn't bring herself to see how much she needed?
00:52:13
Speaker
I took it that she didn't borrow anything cause she couldn't tell them she hadn't been saving money. That's what I was thinking too. Um, um, that's kind of, kind of the way I went with it.
00:52:26
Speaker
Um,
00:52:28
Speaker
Let's see. We go back to Central Park. Chandler and Phoebe walk in, and he's just bought this $400 replacement bracelet. um Because obviously he feels awful about what's happened.
00:52:41
Speaker
um Have he lost the bracelet? um Yeah, that's my fault. We kind of skipped over that a bit with Chandler being on his knees. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Right. ah With the couch cushions because he had lost the bracelet and he was looking for it. e And again I was looking at the furniture, which, again, we we will change next week.
00:53:02
Speaker
But it just mismatched you the commentary. It's really interesting because it just looks so out of place and so weird um in the background there. um Sorry. Yeah, I got off track. My notes were not great for this one at all.
00:53:18
Speaker
But Chandler and Phoebe walk into Central Park. He's got the replacement bracelet, $400. four hundred dollars But then I like it when Rachel pops up from behind the counter. Yes, and he jumps.
00:53:29
Speaker
Okay, and they said that that whole part, the line with the bracelet and everything, took Matthew Perry 40 takes to get the line right.
00:53:42
Speaker
Really? And I was like, weird. I wonder why it took that long. But it was, yeah, I can't remember, like, what the exact line was. That's whenever he's standing, she pops up and he, like, jumps.
00:53:57
Speaker
And then he says whatever he says. But it took 40 takes. That's unbelievable. I wonder if we can find the outtakes online of that. Yeah.
00:54:07
Speaker
um Now, two things in this. First of all, Kate knows this. Again, Joey comes in with a big black overcoat on, but he has the oversized ugly suit jacket we discussed on underneath.
00:54:20
Speaker
You can see it peeking through. um there's we'll never We'll never know if this is true or not. But in the background, one of the yeah the extras, the guy who's sitting directly behind Chandler, or Chandler's standing.
00:54:35
Speaker
So that kind of, the high top table, almost where Chandler met the girl. There's a guy sitting there, and it looks exactly like Rachel's boss from the final season, except this guy has jet black hair, almost like a toupee.
00:54:51
Speaker
hu The guy who Ross ends up interacting with because he has a son called Ross and he thinks that Ross's name is wrong. That guy. yeah To me, it looks exactly like him except he's got a thick head of black hair.
00:55:05
Speaker
Okay. Almost looks fake, but it might just be the fact that it's 10 years, you know, 10 years different. That'll do. That'll do it to all of us. For me, about six weeks.
00:55:16
Speaker
About six weeks. It's not listed anywhere, but to me, they look like the same guy. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, i just it just jumped out at me. I was like, i I swear that's him. But I haven't dug into it, but I assume that there isn't a list of all the extras anywhere.
00:55:35
Speaker
Now, let's see. Back in the girl's apartment, Ross is lending Monica the money with his dinosaur checks. Yeah. Have you ever had any novelty checks?
00:55:47
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um yeah Oh, yeah. I love my Disney checks. With the Disney couples or the Disney, whatever. They're so cute and fun.
00:55:58
Speaker
But I haven't had to order checks probably in about 15 years. I'm trying to think about the last row to check. um I don't know. macy Macy, she rents her her home and writes a check every month.
00:56:13
Speaker
Yeah. And drops off. Her landlord prefers it and it saves her, like, electronic fees or something. So she writes one every month. with Because, like, I've still got some checkbooks, but they're the same ones I've had for... You know what I don't anymore because my bank has been bought and sold several times.
00:56:32
Speaker
and they Oh, they! And they did tell me when they sold themselves or changed the name whatever it was, your checks will still be good for a year, even though it's your old account number and old bank name.
00:56:44
Speaker
When this happens, you have 12 months to use these checks. And when was the last time any of us wrote a check? so but i always So there's fundraisers.
00:56:55
Speaker
right like fundraisers so whenever the kids are selling poinsettias or tupperware or whatever that so i'll write one or two checks a year for different fundraisers and right that's why that's my two or three checkbooks last 15 years That's it. Kate's kind of in charge of all the sort school expenses and like things like that. So she's probably written more than I have.
00:57:21
Speaker
I would yeah say, I dare say she's written a couple in the last year, probably for things like that. that Um, but, uh, yeah, I do like Ross's little line of, you know, the, what's he say? Some of the fun and you learn a little something, yeah you know, like he's doing community service almost like putting some knowledge out of the world.
00:57:40
Speaker
Um, I think, I know it's in there for the cheap gag. Why would they save Monica's big bathing suit? Yeah. To me, that's almost like, you know, I put myself in Monica's position and if I was her parents, I wouldn't send over something that would remind her necessarily of, you know, she's, let's just say she's overcome obesity. You know, she obviously had an issue.
00:58:07
Speaker
She says that and she's overcome it. She's done incredibly well. Why would you, why would you do that? Yeah, I don't know. That's assuming that they did anything other than just go through a room and throw everything in boxes.
00:58:24
Speaker
That's true. Maybe there was no thought. I would like to think that um they would have been more careful about throwing the VHS tape in there.
00:58:36
Speaker
i mean, seeing how it ended. This is true. That's a very good point. you know if they were really paying attention to what they were doing and thinking it through that that wouldn't have made it in there and would have would have made for a very boring episode but right ah yeah but it would have you know i i don't know that everybody thinks that way that's a very good point especially they're just kind of clearing the room out through everything in right they got to get their gym set up yeah
00:59:08
Speaker
Now, before we get into the video, um and I've mentioned this several times, but I'm just going to throw it out there. Again, if anyone ever has the opportunity of doing the Warner Brothers set tour, and you get to go into this house. You go into Jack and Judy's house on the tour, and you can walk up a few of the stairs that Ross is sitting on.
00:59:32
Speaker
And trips up whenever he goes up. Yes, like we're singing playing the keyboard and all of that. So yeah you do go in that house on the tour. um So is you know Kate and I, were both we've been on those stairs like a couple of nerds when we're watching it. you know which I love it. you know like Kind of just geeking out about it, which i thought was just fantastic.
00:59:54
Speaker
um But yeah, talk us through the video, this pivotal, crucial to the entire series video. Okay, so, but I want to talk about the video before we get into it, because the way that they filmed it, they knew that they were going to be cutting in and, like, being in the apartment with the gang watching the video.
01:00:20
Speaker
Right. And so every scene that they um filmed, they did a swish pan. And if I was really smart, I'd probably tell you what it is. But... um the they filmed it like all big one thing and then they went through and it was like okay and then this is where we're going to insert them talking and then this is where they're going to insert you know the actual like what's happening now and then the way that they did um made it appear you know like it was a home video they had the cameraman
01:00:57
Speaker
doing it and everything. And then I can't remember the guy's name, but it was the guy who did Spinal Tap, the video. Okay. And so he did that and they like changed the color to make it like lower quality and all of that. So that was pretty cool, I thought. and I did wonder about that, if they just got an old camcorder, quite what they did.
01:01:22
Speaker
Yeah. No, they very intentionally did it. And so like the part at the end, whenever... ah not at the end, but whenever Jack and Judy trade places and Judy goes behind the camera, that didn't obviously didn't really happen.
01:01:37
Speaker
The guy that was holding the camera just shook it. And then very clever. And, um but they said that one of the, the big, I don't know, like one of the things was as they were filming the scenes,
01:01:54
Speaker
And the audience, they had the live audience there watching and watching the gang watch the video. Right. said there were 300 people in the audience and it was completely silent during the whole exchange. love that.
01:02:08
Speaker
Uh-huh. They said that, ah you know, they felt like the whole audience was right where Rachel was. Like, what in the world? Okay. But, yeah. So it it starts off and Rachel comes in and um You know, they all laugh.
01:02:25
Speaker
And then Chandler makes the comment about, because they had talked about how um they used Monica's bathing suit as a cover for Connecticut whenever it rains.
01:02:38
Speaker
yeah Well, then he makes the comment about her nose. And she's like, oh, you know, I haven't do nose because they had to reduce it because my deviated septum. Right.
01:02:49
Speaker
And so then that's whenever Monica's like, oh, this is us getting ready for prom. And um then Ross realizes what they're watching and he's like, you know, we don't need to watch it.
01:03:01
Speaker
And then Monica is on the screen and she comes out eating the sandwich. And ah is it, I think it's Ross or I mean Chandler that's making the comment about, oh, that girl ate Monica.
01:03:17
Speaker
yeah You know, and all of that. And so the camera adds 10 pounds. How many cameras were there? And. all that and then um and then they go and and they're in there and they pan over to ross who's leaning up against the thing and with his mustache and his hair and um on the commentary they were like if if you could imagine the worst hairstyle from then there it is
01:03:48
Speaker
And, um you know, it cuts back to the living room and Joey's like, hey, Mr. Cotter. Yes. Welcome back, Cotter. Yeah. And it's so funny. So funny. And it was so in style and right on, but so awful.
01:04:06
Speaker
Yeah, Dave Squimmer pulls that off perfectly. it's kind of the lean and the look as well. Oh, yeah. Because he's like, I'm so cool. And he's looking at her. And so then it, you know, cuts over to Ross and Rachel and he's asking her or she asks him, like, what are you going to do this summer?
01:04:28
Speaker
And this is whenever we first find out, really, i think, that Ross is into music. So I did wonder about that because the Chandler says something.
01:04:40
Speaker
Like, oh, your music, really? or But they're in a band, but maybe they're not at this point. No. Yeah. yeah and Because this is this is his first, like, he just graduated, i think. I think this is his first year, right?
01:04:56
Speaker
Well, you know its you bring that up, and I wasn't sure even how many years are between Monica and Ross. we We know Ross is older, but is it a year, two years, three? Like, I don't know.
01:05:08
Speaker
I don't know either, but I just assumed it was. Yeah. and So then, you know, her, her big puffy, beautiful sleeve, uh, I would have, my Barbie doll had sleeves like that on her prom dress.
01:05:25
Speaker
And so Ross starts fixing, you know, her dress for and everything. And you see Ross just kind of mesmerized. Right. And it looks like almost he's smelling her. It's weird.
01:05:37
Speaker
Yeah. That yeah gets a little, yeah. Like, and like, calm down, man. Right. And then that's whenever the ah roy shows roy roy yeah Roy shows up.
01:05:52
Speaker
And then you know he comes in and then they're all kind of whatever. And then it's like, I wonder where Chip is. and um And then then it cuts back and and Rachel's crying because Chip's not coming and and Chip's not there and she's all sad. That's And so the mom, Judy, says to Ross, you should go and you should.
01:06:18
Speaker
And like while they're, whenever Roy very first shows up, that's whenever Ross is sitting there on the stairs playing the music and everything. Yes. And just being. Just being.
01:06:29
Speaker
Yeah. And so, um so then she's like, you know, um Jack talked to your son. So they switch and that's whenever they do the camera thing right where he just shakes it and makes it look like Judy and Jack had traded places.
01:06:47
Speaker
And um he talks to him. Did you notice that Jack's wearing two shirts? I did not notice that. He's got two collars. He's got a green collar and a blue collar. And it's so weird. And I don't know what that's all about.
01:07:03
Speaker
um That is odd. Yeah. i Yeah, I don't know. So then Ross goes to run up the stairs and he falls. And it's so funny. Yes, I do love that. choice That physical comedy of ah that David Schwimmer has.
01:07:21
Speaker
Yes. and ah Yes. And then, uh, and then, you know, Ross is now like, he's standing over by the door and then it it pans. And, and then I guess in the background, there's a giant pterodactyl.
01:07:39
Speaker
Is that right? There is indeed. There is indeed. Yep. And, um, you know, he comes out, he's wearing Jack's tux. like Because right before Jack told him, you wear my tux, go on.
01:07:52
Speaker
and um And so he comes and then he's up there at the top of the stairs and he grabs the flowers. The flowers. We're going to make it work. We're going to make it work. and um And Jack goes down the stairs all fast, you know, and he stops.
01:08:11
Speaker
And then, a And then he's like, Rachel, it's your night and shining. Oh. Oh. Oh. And he sees what has happened.
01:08:22
Speaker
And then they all leave. And good old Chip showed up. And off they go. Chip on the chipper. Yeah. And then it looks back at Ross. And you just see it on his face.
01:08:35
Speaker
And then she's like, how do you turn this off? And it was so sweet. It's so sweet. And the, the, you know, back in the girl's apartment, the way Ross is like almost leaning on the door, like it's physically painful for him.
01:08:51
Speaker
Oh yeah. And I don't, I don't doubt that it is because he tried, he tried on more than one occasion to just not, to just not have that show because he knew what was coming.
01:09:06
Speaker
Yeah. You know, ah And then, you know, Rachel stands up and just walks straight to him and nothing said.
01:09:17
Speaker
yeah And then she kisses him and then everybody, and it just, it made my heart happy because it's like everybody that was sitting there in that living room. Well, Monica's like, I didn't know you did that. Right.
01:09:32
Speaker
But everybody's sitting there she's like, you know and they're just all so happy and then bb says see he's her lobster i love it and it was so sweet so sweet and just let i think about this scene and what you just said about what was it 300 people in the audience and how silent and then they all just ah yes you know yeah that and that's here yes yes that's
01:10:02
Speaker
I love it. i It's so well done. i i it you know kind of breaks my heart for Ross, but I love the the acting of how painful it is that he doesn't want to watch and the way he's leaning against the door.
01:10:16
Speaker
It's just so well done, um I think. Yeah. Just a great way to sort of introduce Ross and Rachel They're not couple, but yeah to bring them back to this, I think it's so well done.
01:10:32
Speaker
Well, and that, oh, sorry. No, no, you're fine. Go ahead. That was something else that they talked about on the commentary was about just the the Ross and Rachel's dynamic and how powerful it was.
01:10:45
Speaker
Like they're, you know, everybody's silent for that whole scene. And then they're just like, yes, thank goodness. But they even flash forwarded to like season eight.
01:10:59
Speaker
Was it eight? I think whenever they have Joey and Rachel together and then people started to get invested in that. And then they pulled back and they were told there's no way, there's no way you can get everybody back on the Ross and Rachel train.
01:11:15
Speaker
They said it took three to four episodes and then everybody's attitude was right back there with it. And I, I feel like it's because starting at the very beginning, they give you, and then they take it away, and then they give you more backstory, and, you know, and it's just,
01:11:35
Speaker
It's good. It's good storytelling is what it is. it It really is. And I love the fact that the prom video thing, the the video itself wasn't dangled in front of us as viewers for the whole episode.
01:11:49
Speaker
It was just, I mean, it doesn't get mentioned until four minutes from the end, maybe. I don't know. ah yeah It's one of the most iconic, powerful things to happen in the whole show. So I think it's just...
01:12:02
Speaker
It's so well done. Before we kind of move on to other things, I love this commentary stuff. Was there any other stuff? I want to make sure we don't miss any. Yeah, no, that was that was the the last little thing, I guess.
01:12:17
Speaker
They talk about in that very last scene about Monica and how, oh, you know what? One thing that they did talk about that I thought was very interesting was how...
01:12:30
Speaker
when this This was the first episode where Monica's in the fat suit. Yes. And they so were just commenting on how joyful she is while she's in it.
01:12:44
Speaker
she yeah know that She loves the fat suit. Yeah. loves it yeah And that's and they they talked about that and how well you know they she plays that and how much she enjoys it.
01:12:59
Speaker
Yeah, I read a thing once that Matthew Perry didn't recognize her on the set when she walked out in it. Yeah. And like walked right past her, which I hope is true, because that would be really funny if it's true. Well, I'm going to tell you that I went down a little rabbit hole as well. I kind of got thinking about this and I Googled it quickly and other people have clearly done the same thing.
01:13:21
Speaker
so jack galler brings up you know sorry to hear about your parents and we know that monica and rachel were obviously friends in high school we never see rachel's parents and ross and monica's parents together in any scene which it didn't occur to me until like i was thinking do we and then we don't like not even enough or in season 10.
01:13:45
Speaker
I don't believe so. I don't think we ever see together. Now, again, I'm wrong. I know when I Googled it, other people said we don't see them together. But we'll see. Because we don't see Rachel's dad and mom too much, just generally speaking. We see mom more than dad.
01:14:05
Speaker
Well, and I remember, though, whenever she's pregnant, And her and Ross go to dinner with her dad. And her dad is just terrible. And I don't think we see Rachel's parents at the hospital when Emma's born.
01:14:21
Speaker
No. No. So for some reason. um But, you know, they obviously know each other because stuff like, you know, sorry to hear your parents are getting divorced or whatever is he says.
01:14:32
Speaker
And then... Yeah, there was just, I forgot to write down, there was several other times where the Gellers have said something about ah Rachel's parents.
01:14:43
Speaker
You know, they saw them at the country club, i was playing tennis with them, things like that. But I don't think, yeah, we don't, I don't think we ever seem together. They don't seem like people that would actually be friends with one another. No. Like more acquaintances.
01:14:55
Speaker
yeah i think they probably just run in those same in my head the kind of country club circles yeah rather than yeah hanging out an awful lot um well let's talk about your gunther central park um i i don't have a feeling at all where you're gonna go with this i'm intrigued do you not I don't think so. No, you probably don't because I actually had a really hard time.
01:15:22
Speaker
Yeah, this was tough one. I had a really hard time because I was i love, ah you know, they the whole like Ross and Rachel thing. I do enjoy this part of it, like this episode of it. Yes. um And I went back and forth. And then while we were just talking, I was like, God.
01:15:44
Speaker
whenever you were talking about Rachel and how she, the, you know, I'm not yours to save line probably held more than just the basic.
01:15:56
Speaker
yeah I'm not your girlfriend, but that I can take care of myself and like, dang, but okay. My Gunther central person is Chandler because it's so daggum funny. He's kind of a jerk.
01:16:13
Speaker
but you don't wonder know like all of his feelings are out there and and it kind of hurtful probably not the best way to have dealt with it but god it was so funny was so funny and at the end you know genuinely happy about and rachel and He's, he's, and then he saw it quick and he had the two bracelets and then he gave it to Joey.
01:16:47
Speaker
And now we're, we're, we're bracelet buddies. Bracelet buddies. You know, like, yeah. So anyway, it was Chandler just cause. I like it. I like it. Well, I feel like a cheat with this. I've got to be honest, because there's certain characters like Estelle, we've discussed, you know, she's in an episode.
01:17:06
Speaker
For me, it's hard to beat. Yeah. And and Jack is, as we've talked about previously, is one of those characters. I love his kind of aloofness. Hey, it's something my office is a lesbian.
01:17:19
Speaker
You know, that line which we talk about. Like, if he's just trying to connect, you know, it's not... its I wouldn't say it's inappropriate. It's not... It's just... It's such a parent thing to do, I think. no hu And he's doing it to connect and that out of a love in his heart.
01:17:37
Speaker
But I just love Jack so much. I love the way he takes care of Monica.
Jack as a Great Dad
01:17:42
Speaker
I love his little lines about, you know, well, they're getting divorced and then he panics or the Hawaii thing.
01:17:49
Speaker
yes So he doesn't play a huge role in it, but I've got to give this one to Jack as well. Okay. Yeah. yeah I like that.
01:17:59
Speaker
i just aye I just think Jack's a great dad in a lot of ways. Yeah. So he will get my vote. But
Favorite Episodes Discussion
01:18:08
Speaker
we're going to sit down. We're going to watch a video from you in high school doing something. We're sitting around the table.
01:18:16
Speaker
We're pouring some coffee. How many cups are we having? Nine. Nine. We're having nine. yes Yeah, nine is I think that's a, I think i think most people, I didn't didn't look this up, I think this has got to be a favorite episode of many people.
01:18:34
Speaker
I would think so. Yeah, it's it's, to me, it's just got strong storylines in the plural and not just... one thing going on um and it may just finishes well so yeah um i'm coming coming in with nine as well it's exactly why i'd written down i like this just as much as the two super bowl ones um i think we're in a you know three very strong episodes because know the super bowl for me was split yes yes
01:19:05
Speaker
yeah yeah and actually you know before that you know the one with the lesbian wedding i mean these are strong episodes they really are yeah we're in ah in a good phase of friends right now uh which is super super awesome but before we wrap up any other sort of final thoughts um no but
High School Memories and VHS Challenges
01:19:24
Speaker
al if we were gonna watch a video of you in high school what would you be doing So, there's only one video I know that exists.
01:19:34
Speaker
Well, two videos, two videos. And I have them both, but UK VHS tapes don't play on VHS players here, so I'd have to pay to get it converted, which I've just never done.
01:19:45
Speaker
But I have two tapes of me going on a school trip to Paris. Oh, wow. Which sounds super exotic and exciting. And it was. But we it's it's ah it's like 20 hours on a bus.
01:19:59
Speaker
So, yeah you know, it's it's not like we, you know, flew this and the other. it was just a long trip on a bus. And one of the teachers had the the video camera. And we went to Disneyland Paris and to the Eiffel Tower.
01:20:13
Speaker
How cool. The Palace of Versailles and all of that. So there's I have the two videos of that from the mid-90s. Okay. think ninety five and ninety six I think think.
01:20:24
Speaker
um So those are the only two videos. I didn' played a lot of music in high school, so there might might be some videos of that knocking around somewhere. But i know for a fact you would see me with my oversized glasses and centrally parted hair. Nice.
01:20:40
Speaker
Yes, were rolling around the streets of Paris, probably looking awkward and weird as a teenager. Of course, yeah as all of us were, right? Exactly, exactly. it was a rite
Next Week's Episode Preview
01:20:51
Speaker
of passage for all of us, I think.
01:20:54
Speaker
All right. Yeah, next week, it's the one where Ross and Rachel dot, dot, dot, you know. oh and this is the one, there's a song that's in that episode.
01:21:08
Speaker
Yes, because we talked about it. Your guy who flirts with Phoebe. yeah Yeah. Chris Isaac. Chris Isaac, that's the one. Yes.
01:21:19
Speaker
Well, I don't know this song, so I'm looking forward to catching it on my watch. Yeah, you do. Everybody does. Indeed. You'll know it. All right. Well, awesome. Well, I'm looking forward to next week. But on that note, thank you, everybody, for tuning in to the Purple Door Podcast.