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Episode 16: Briscon preview time!
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The crew chat about all things board games coming to Briscon, and much more
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Podcast Continuation: A Superhero Origin Story
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Speaker
We're still doing this podcast thing, right? Like, there's still a thing. That's the first thing we do when we record. We are doing this, right? This is still a thing.
00:00:27
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Should we introduce the podcast and then talk about this? No. No. Start. Just go. We're done. It's like Spider-Man. Everyone knows the origin story now. Just go. Yeah. Well, we could, you know, I've seen people do it.
Returning to Roots: A New Season Begins
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We could call it like a season, right? So we had a bit of a break. We had some downtime. This is the start of season two. In fact, bringing back to our roots where we just talk shit and drink and idiots. Yeah. That's all I can do. Episode one, bitches.
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Season nine, go.
Weekly Schedules and Board Game Adventures
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All right, it's the board game together podcast. Yeah. Shane, what are we doing? Yeah. What's happening? What's on the calendar? You know the stuff. Yeah. No, I don't. I don't know. Let's work. Let's work through. Right. What are we doing on Wednesday? Wednesday. We have what are we doing? Great. The ferret. Right. And then that's going to teach going to learn how to play scholars.
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You are. You are going to be one of the very few, Mr. G. Money. They're going to learn how to play spoilers. On a real live game of it. Not TTS, not BGA, none of that bullshit. We have a physical live copy. Can I just ask, is my wife still invited back to the ferret next week? Absolutely she is. Is she coming? No, not this time. Why, what happened? I made her apologize to her boss who drove her home.
00:01:55
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I offered to drive her home, but I was pretty drunk at the same time. Well again, Chinwag Podcast does not contain alcohol. Drinking and driving. Please consume responsibly. No, she did not consume responsibly. So she was hilarious when she got... And I drank her whole espresso martini too, in one hit.
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That's the one I bought for her. Yeah, she did not drink
Colorblindness and Board Game Inclusivity
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it. Oh, wow. And then the time had gone past when it was... Noted. The time had gone past from when it was prepped until when it was warm. And then there was no choice. I just necked the whole thing. You're a machine. Turns out I like coffee, too. Yeah. And then walked home, right, Jimin? No, I drove him. I only hit like two people, so it was good.
00:02:47
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And one of them was a deer, so it doesn't really matter. Doe, a deer? Yeah. Ferret, again, I'll learn how to play scholars leading into Briskon, right? Well, Briskon's not this weekend. No, no, no, no, no. Well, let's be honest. Briskon happened seven weeks ago when you're listening to this podcast. We had a really good time. Thanks everybody for coming.
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And I realized, and I don't know if Steve's picked up on this yet, but scholars is not a game for you.
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I'll make that decision when it turns up after I've kick started it. Mate, you've got to work the colour wheel with dice. Oh, actually, bizarrely enough, it does. Because the way they did the dice, they did the primary colours and they did the translucent colours for the mixers. So it'd be quite easy to define which dice are which because
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They're like solid for the primary colors and like translucent for the next. So this comes back to me forgetting that you're colorblind. Oh yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah. Well, not that you forget, but yes, big time I am colorblind. Yes. Or Shane just really doesn't want to change. And in three years.
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in historically, as much as I love Garfield games, they haven't really helped out with their colour-blind friendly games to the point where if you pick up any one of my West Kingdom games, I've marked them with pen so I can tell the difference between blue and purple and green and red and
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and whatever else. So I appreciate what they've done with the dice this time around. That's good. That could have gotten really bad. Like, I've got my purple die. That's a blue die. I've got my red. That's not. That's not even a dice. You picked up a cat. It's a ficus. Yeah. It's when you combine a blue die and a green die to make purple. Yeah.
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That would be really good though, if you got many stickers of different animals that start with the same letter as the colours and you actually went and put those animals on all the sides of the dice, so you could be like, oh, it's a cat, it's crimson, I don't know. That's true, but I guess, I just put a white line on the purple ones and I know that the purple ones have a white line and the blue ones don't. Let's delve into this animal dice. I love this thinking colour.
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I mean, really, if it was anybody else, they'd just go, hmm, one is good and six is bad. I'm going to draw a little penis on the six balls on the one. Like color matching by letters of animal names. That's a great theory. Yeah.
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It's crimson. But it's crimson. Is crimson red or purple? You have a turtle. What is crimson anyway?
Sentimental Value in Board Game Collections
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It's maroon, isn't it? It's maroon. It's the colour of blood.
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Is it mud on the noise? It's red, but my problem is... Put a rat on there for red. Yeah, red, red. This is blowing my mind. The only problem with... And this is the only problem with this system, Helen, is that there are some letters where there are more than one colour, like... So, you know, you couldn't have... Yeah, like... There's not 26 colours and 26 different letters and 26 animals, so... Yeah, and you'd have to be really good at drawing the animals.
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like if someone you know you want to you don't want a dolphin to get you know mixed up with a porpoise or something like that so you're going P for purple or for porpoise like dark green damn it i think it's cool you only think there's one problem with this program so far that's it that is it that's the corporate plan otherwise we're just going to solve that you had the same problem i did dg that like i went i went an animal first went shoot up
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We use primary colors in board games. Hey, like say Helen's board game. She's going to start with crimson. Very soothing. And like a chartreuse color.
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It's like a rainbow with sick and vomited. It's like real tears, this is amazing. This is the kind of quality you get in season 9 of this broadcast. Season 4 was terrible, I'll give you that. Season 9 is off to a good start.
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So welcome, everybody. This is the board game chinwag podcast for this evening. And so I'll be your host, Dave, and I've got Shane, Helen, Steve and G money here. Good evening. Hello. Hello. There we go. There is an official start if we ever want one. Otherwise it's just a weird random place at 10 minutes in the book. I just do that. What a colorful evening it is. Shall we roll? I even have a semi-topic thread because God knows what our last topic was because it's been so long since we had a topic.
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So it's horror movies, right? Top 10 horror movies. We haven't done that since season one, so I reckon it's time again. It came up again in season seven with top sci-fi movies, but we gave it up. I think I missed that episode. We need to be more focused. Horror TV shows. Come on, go. Who's up first? American Horror Story, all of them. They're all pretty good. Horrible TV shows? That'd be easier.
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Yeah. The Munsters. The Munsters. Jesus Christ. Is that even in colour? No. You're officially 112 years old. As I am. Hey, he knows what maths is, come on. I do know what maths is. We're talking horrible TV shows. And that is a horror show, that one. Wow.
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It's a road crash of a TV show, but I couldn't stop watching it. That's why aliens don't come here. That's why we can't have no things. To the point where we had Lawrence relatives up for the last two weeks. We paused the last two episodes of Mavs, and then we binged them both today. They're gone, they're gone, put it on, put it on! They're gone. Let's watch Mavs. Why are you laughing?
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It was a horror. I'm so sad to hear that. I'm sorry. And so are all of those contestants.
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I just, I just see this image of like you guys waving goodbye out the front and then running back in with your hands. I'm going, yeah, it's time. We can do it. I have to say one of the things that I've done this week is actually hang
Managing and Selling Board Games
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my TV. I've now finished my renos. I have a television again. It has been a very long time and I plugged it in and turned it on and I watched some television this week for the first time in over a year. What did you watch?
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The X-Men animated cartoon from the 1990s. Beautiful. Perfect. I can't get any better. Top of the mountain. Straight away. Yeah. Yellow, wolverine. While you've not had a TV, you've just been binging your comic books. Yeah, yeah, totally. I've gone hard into the comic book world. So I thought it was a fitting start. But then I also sat and watched the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. So yeah, I'm catching up on TV that I've missed in the last 16 years. Have you seen those things? Yeah, they're pretty good.
00:10:19
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Do you have a couch now? No, I still don't have a couch. So you sat on the floor? Yep. Excellent. I use the packing material from my TV box as like a headrest. Yep, that's it. Would you be able to make a couch out of packing boxes? It would have been much cooler, but no, my children destroyed that option pretty early on. No, so we've had to find out. I bought a soundbar. I bought a robot backing cleaner. I've been like splurging. Wow. Geez, look at you go. I know. I have a house again and it feels weird.
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Nice. But leading into segue-ish, so part of it is doing cleaning work and stacking things appropriately, so I've restacked all my board games. And what I've done, and as part of leading to the topic for this evening, is I've had to do a bit of a cull.
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Now, I'm not a board game seller. I can count on one hand the total amount of board games of my personal collection I've ever sold. All of them have been random choice of, oh, you're interested in that and I don't care. Well, you can buy it off me because whatever, I don't care. I've got another 600 board games. I've never sat down before and said, I'm going to choose to remove this one from my collection and put it up for sale.
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So topic for this evening is how do you do that? Because it wasn't fun. And I have now a pile of games next to me that I still feel semi attached to.
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Well, you need to first show me the pile, so I can... That's what I was going to say. We've all just gone, Dave. Show us the pile, please. I was just shamed. Let's just see it, and then we can buy it off you before you put it. I'm imagining a Christmas tree, and Charti Party is the star at the top of the tree. Now, Charti Party's still my monitor stand. Yeah, that thing is for life now. It has actual use in this house.
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No, so so tell me of your philosophies like I I spent a bit of this week as well listening to the Malcolm Gladwell Podcast about orders and I started to actually feel like he was targeting me a little bit So I thought it's a good opportunity to go through use an actual process of elimination where I I picked out some games So tell me about your process when you do that
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I've sold a few games, probably more in the last year and a half than I've, yeah, unlocked in the last year and a half and my process was simple and that is that will I play this game with anyone who doesn't already own it?
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And if the answer is no, if it's not like the sentimental attachment theme, then I'll get rid of that. And is this a game that any people that I would play games with would be interested in playing? And that's kind of like my two. And the last one, of course, is do I like this game?
00:12:57
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If one of those three things is correct, it's pretty easy to put into pile. And there's a few games, like, for example, as obviously I've moved to Emerald, so I don't have the gaming group that I used to have, although I met a new gaming group again the other day, which was cool. But like perfect example is I have a brand new never used copy of Blood on the Clock Tower from their Kickstarter.
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Um, I don't know if I'll ever use that because not only did I, do I not have a gaming group that is big enough to play blood on the clock tower. Um, the group that I met last week have blood on the clock tower and we played their copy. So I'm like, well, I don't really, I get my blood on the clock tower feel elsewhere. So that game, even though I liked the game, I don't think I'll ever use my copy. So I'd be prepared to sell that. But see, ever is a big word there, Steve. So.
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If you've got a game and you like the game, so it's ticking two of your three boxes that some stage you might play that game again. Right now you have a group who have a copy. Correct. Which is why it's not up for sale. There's a possibility there. And I guess that comes to the evergreen nature of a game. Like if I think it's going to be a game, like Toukenou was another great example. I really liked that game. I played it a fair bit. And then after a while, I'm like, it's a great game, but I'd much rather play Tio.
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Um, and I know about four people are into Kenner. So if I want to get that feel, I'll get that. And then I sold it. So yeah. All right. Well, you don't want to do what I did, which is buy a game off Shane and then see you Dave and still not take it home. That's not a good philosophy for getting games. No, no. It's sitting in there. It's in the box for me to give to you.
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I don't have it. I haven't collected it. I haven't actually seen Dave. I haven't seen him to be able to give it to him. Yeah, so you're off the hook on that one, Helen. But have you ever sold one of your own games at your board? I never would.
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So I'm of a very different opinion even if you know I have games I don't like but in the right circumstance with the right group I would play it anyway if they wanted to play it. I also find that I have seasons so Orcs was a perfect example and I've tried to play it early on when I was early in my board game when I hate this like I'm not even I'm not even gonna try and learn this
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and then we played it and loved it. It's a super easy game but I just at the time didn't know much about it so now it's a great game. So I played it a couple times I'd play again but I've also got very young children. So for me
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I've got four children as well. No, I don't. I have three. You do. Are you included? You do have four children. Yeah, I do. You're right, I do. But three of them would probably play board games and so there's a good chance that they could get
00:15:54
Speaker
Well, three of them like board games. Pardon? Three of them like board games. Yeah. So there's a good chance that they'll all take a portion with them potentially when they move out. So for me, I'll only grow and just take over their toy cupboards with my board games. Long game. Yeah. Yeah. Unlike me, my two boys would do this big fire sale and get rid of every single one of them and not want any. But look, I go about it.
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to think about my strategy about, I can't buy any games I haven't played until I've played them, that makes sense. So I've sold a fair few that I don't ever think I'll ever play, that I've bought. And you get caught up in the whole hype of, oh, this is the hot game, gotta buy it. So I do never play it, move it on. So for me, it's about, and then when I move it on though,
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I moved it on for the price I paid for it. I'm not about making any money off it. I got Glory to Rome. Will I ever play Glory to Rome ever again? Probably not. Will I sell it on for a huge profit? No. I paid a hundred bucks for it. At some point in time, when I move it on, it'll be a hundred bucks for someone that wants to buy it. And it's, I, similar to, you know, you bought Ark nova Helen off me.
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It's a game I don't think I'll ever play again. Clear it on why it's still the hype that's in the game. And again, sell it at a very reasonable price. You know, don't want to make anything from it. We go to the bring and buy for Briskol.
Game Sale Strategies and Emotional Attachments
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So I've got a crate of games, so similar to you, Dave, I just went, what am I not going to ever play again? Just chuck it in a crate, and I'll take those to the bring and buy and see if I can move them on.
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But that's your main philosophy, is what are games that you're not going to play again? That's your thing. Yep. Yep. That's how I go about it. So we're going to play it again. Am I enjoying it? Is Lauren playing it with me? So beer and bread right now, Lauren loves playing that game with me. I'll give you a 350 for it. I can't, because it's the only game. Like she'll say, she actually asked, can we play beer and bread?
00:18:22
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Yeah, I'm like, let's do it. So, those type of games where Lauren's engaged, won't ever sell. I am trying that, by the way. I've got Liam reading Red Rising, just in the hope that he will play the Red Rising board game with me. He's loving the books, but I don't know how well I'm going with the board game aspect. It's hard not to, but, you know, when you have 30 hours of book reading and you've got about a 45-minute game, you can sort of say, hey, this is something that we can do.
00:18:51
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What about you G-Money, do you sell games? Nah, never sold a single game. Never thought about it, don't own enough to probably really warrant going through it and like throwing out some at this point. Gave some away, like if people liked them and I didn't, I played them and I didn't like them, I just gave them to people. Other than that, nah, got no philosophy, got no, it's all great god random. What type of games did you give away, G-Money?
00:19:20
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I gave away Vindication. I gave away my set of Gloomhaven to somebody. I think... Dave, was that your Jaws of the Lion that we played and gave away? Yeah, no, I've still got it. Oh, you've still got it, okay. Yeah, it was one. Yeah. But you took ownership of that, you painted it, you ran the campaign, you did the whole thing. Yeah, and just pass it on, like, you know, I'm not gonna play it again, someone else can play it, and that's great. I do have your Penny Arcade still. Oh yeah, that's right.
00:19:50
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I thought that would have fetched a pretty penny. No pun intended. It's too rare. It's one of those things. It's too rare. Nobody's even heard of it to know how much they should pack through. One thing I'll add in there too is that I don't muck around with the cheat games. I'll never play Trust Me I'm a Superhero again, but I'm not going to go through the hassle of
00:20:16
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bartering with someone over whether I sell it for $5, $10 or $15 and then go to the post office and spend $16 on postage. I'm not going to. And they're similar to G Money, but obviously not like Vindication Levels. They're the sort of games that I'd easily give away or I've even given a few games to the local library here, that sort of stuff, which are just games like
00:20:38
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seven wonders because I don't think I'll ever play seven wonders again. And if I do, I know I can go and get a copy from my library now. It's a wonderful world, which I like more than seven wonders that does a similar thing. So yeah. Yeah, I'm saying if I'm going to, if I look at it again, I think it's only worth 10 bucks, 15 bucks, 20 bucks. I'd much rather take that long to a board game event and just do it a giveaway. Yeah. So I've done that a fair few times, you know, when we were there.
00:21:08
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So back to this pile then Dave. Yeah. Come get City of Big Shoulders. That's what I want to know.
00:21:16
Speaker
That box is worth more sentimental value than the game. I think I can see the box in the background. It's a cornerstone. It's a load bearing. It's holding up my hands. Stop talking about that game, please. One of the best games ever made. Why would we stop talking about it?
00:21:38
Speaker
Again, we're talking about I bought and sold with. We went through this in season. Someone else. We don't need to put someone else. This would be great. The next time you're at a game day and Shane's like, oh, I'd really like a game city with Charles. You can just go, no, you said you'll only sell games if you'll never play them again. You're not allowed to play.
00:22:04
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No, because it was interesting listening to the podcast and the whole thing about the quarters and the collection and the mentality of buying to keep. So he got onto this whole thing, which really intrigued me around art collection and how celebrated that you had the art director of the Metropolitan Museum in New York through his tenure over 30 years, he bought 84,000 things.
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pieces of art and random pieces of collection. And then he'd gone down the path of saying, I have a guy and my guy is like, his specialist area is Islamic rugs. And I bought so many Islamic rugs. This guy's never even seen them. Like he's in charge of them and he's never seen them. We just bought them and put them in storage. I'm like,
00:22:40
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Yeah, I do that with games. Like I've got so many games on my shelf, I just bought, still in shrink. I would like to play them at some stage and I may do, but for now they're just sitting here. And the collection had got to the stage, especially after the close of the shot that I couldn't fit them all in. I had just piles building up in the random corners and I had to buy extra shelves just to keep extra games in. So I thought I'll actually do a piece of work, go through and make judgment calls based on a couple of things. And similar to what you said, Shane,
00:23:10
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Will I ever play it again? But also, with yourself, Steve, is it something that I know somebody has a copy of that I can have a look at? And if I really get the hanker and you play that game and play somebody else's, is it something that I'm interested in playing? So a lot of the games I've got I bought because I do want to play them at some stage. Things like Food Chain Magnet. I'd be very keen for a game of that. It's sat there for nearly two years, unplayed, but there'll be a time when I can play that game. So I've got to keep it.
00:23:38
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And the last one comes down to what Malcolm Gladwell was talking about is that hoarders have that mentality of they can't give away a thing because they've got some attachment to it. And whether that's sentimental or a memory or physical, emotional attachment, they feel like they will lose something of themselves or their memory if they give this item away.
00:24:00
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And so a lot of the games I've got, I can't get rid of. I've got games that I played with my brother-in-law before he passed away. I've got games that the first time I played with my kids and I can still remember that feeling. I've got games that I remember being so excited about to get from Kickstarter that I've been reading updates every time they come up for two years until this thing arrived. So I can never get rid of those.
00:24:23
Speaker
But that's that sort of sentimental attachment part that it's a memory or a feeling or an emotion. It's just a thing. And I've seen it more getting into the comic book collecting stuff. Like a lot of the hardcore comic book collecting, they're contained in hard plastic. You can't actually do anything with them. It's just a thing to wave around. Display. Yeah. That's all you can do with them. You can't interact with them. It is display and it's a thing.
00:24:47
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And you see so many people that their partners or their dads or someone pass away and the families has to deal with this massive collection of stuff that they don't know the physical or financial value. They've just got a box of crap that they've got to dispose of and deal with.
00:25:03
Speaker
So there'll be games that I'll play with my kids and they'll always want to keep. But for me, it made me have a think about what we actually want to keep around the house and what things we need to keep for the gaming group and what games I'd personally want to sort of sit aside and actually have there. It just didn't that off chance that I do get to play them the sunset.
00:25:22
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good emotional experience going through and I looked at almost every game I had and I could either think of a story or a memory or a time that I played it. So they stayed mostly. The ones that are going are the big polar ones that I bought on the chance that I play them one day, but the groups changed or the domains changed or my feeling for the games changed. So they get to go. That's very cathartic, right?
00:25:46
Speaker
Yeah, it was good. And it was like, it's part of the whole cleanup of the house. Like it's been really good activity to go, yep, I've got this much space and I packed it and I had to then unpack a little bit and put ones in that I wanted to keep and take ones out. So I sort of, I had a limit to work with and I met it, which I feel good about.
00:26:05
Speaker
That's exactly what I did when I moved up here. I made the decision, I'm only gonna go out with two Calaxas. And not only does everything have to fit on there, but there needs to be spare space for future games that would arrive via Kickstarter or whatever else. So that's why I sold 70 games before I left because it was like, otherwise I was gonna have to buy extra shelving. So yeah, you kind of force yourself to a barrier and make sure you're forward in it. But you make a good point around
00:26:35
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You know, if you have a connection with a board game, you don't want to pass it on. There's so many board games that I own that either Josh likes, Bax likes. Now Lauren, you know, I'm never going to move any of those games on because that's our way of them connecting with me and playing the game. So whenever I say to the boys, do you want to play a board game? It's either King of Tokyo or Downforce. That is it. They're the only two games those two boys will play. And now Lauren is,
00:27:05
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Wingspan, Blue Moon City, Woods of Waterdeep, and now Bew and Bread. Bread games by the way. Yeah. So they will never, ever leave my collection.
00:27:18
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And the list grows and the more you've got it around, the more opportunity you've got to play it at some stage. So if you'd sold beer and bread unplayed because it sat there for too long and you thought you'd never get to it, you miss that potential experience that you're going to have with your wife. So I've always found it emotionally hard to cut that off, cut that opportunity off before it happened. That if I sold a game without playing it, I might actually realize that I really enjoyed it and then built memories around it. Well, I recently just bought Heat.
00:27:49
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off the back of, it's kind of like downforce, but the next level up. And I'm ever so hopeful that I can get it to the table and teach the boys how to play it. This is downforce, but a little bit different. So a little bit more thinking of the downforce. So I'm still here to play it, by the way.
Balancing New Games and Ownership Justification
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I might bring it on Wednesday night, but we have got scholars to play. Yeah, we do. We do. It raises that question of, you know, when you go to a board games thing,
00:28:19
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will be at whatever it is your local gaming group or a bigger thing and you play something with a group and you love it you buy it and then you can't play it with anyone else because you've either got no one locally who would like it or it just doesn't fit and then you end up with a few of those games it's like I really like this and I played it once it's great it's awesome but I can't play it enough to now warrant me keeping it
00:28:42
Speaker
the other thing happens which you fall in love with the game because you had such a great experience with it and you try it with a different group and you realize it was actually the group was the experience not the not the game itself that was carrying it it's the group yeah
00:28:56
Speaker
Well, what happened with TI with our group is we got it. Everybody was super involved. Everybody then went and bought their own copies. There was like six copies floating around in the group and it doesn't get played as much because there's so many other things. It's such a challenging to the table, but everyone has spent $300 on this game now to sit on the shelves. I've gotten to the point now where I say before I buy the game, does anyone that I know own it?
00:29:26
Speaker
And if anyone I know owns it, I don't buy it because I know I can play it with them and have an enjoyable time. I think it depends on the level of game, right? So when Subterra 2, for instance, obviously, you know, we all know what happened there, but we all bought it. So there is now five copies in our gaming group of seven people who have a copy of this game, but it is a game that I
00:29:54
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played with David Mimp when we went away. It's a game that I could play with my kids. It's a game that I could play with my mum. There's so many people outside of our group because it's a smaller game. It's not a long game. It's, you know, it's not a difficult game. So I think exactly what you said about TI, it's such an involved game. You're going to play it with those same people who are bored. Whereas smaller games, you're able to flip them around to other groups without too much trouble. That's fair. Yeah.
00:30:24
Speaker
Exactly. And then there's stuff like Gloomhaven where, I mean, G-Money is the expert and he loves it, but, or Frosthaven may be a better example is once you play through that, it's gotta be pretty hard to play through it again. So do you play through like, for example, a legacy game, if you buy it and play it through with a group, do you ever actually play that game again, regardless of who it's with or how it's done?
00:30:52
Speaker
I've still got Gloomhaven sitting on my shelf and I haven't been able to unpack it for a very long time. And I want it. I really, really want it. I've never played Pandemic since I finished the three Pandemic legacy. And I don't know it will. I never played after finishing the first one. I bought the other two ones thinking this would be great, but it was kind of pandemic doubt by that point. Yeah, we'd lived through it. Yeah. And it was like they played it for real then. Yeah. I'm sick of that game now. It's really hard.
00:31:22
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I'm similar to Dave, like I've got a game that I played with a mate that passed away and I can't, that's Glimhaven, I can't bring it back out. I really want to. But there's a character in there he played and it just, you know, there's sentimental value there. So it'll always stay in my collection. It's just one hell of a big box that's sitting there. I think you should try and play it at some point.
00:31:45
Speaker
Do you know what I mean? If it's something that you have a memory with that person, I wouldn't not play it again because it was something, you know, if you played it, you'd probably get even more great memories flooding back. Yeah, yeah. Play two-handed, play that character and... Play that character, yeah. Play two-handed, yeah. That's a good call, Steve. Because, yeah, if you're playing good heaven solo anyway, you're better off running two characters. Yeah.
00:32:08
Speaker
I saw a great meme and it was D&D related, but it was one of the player characters passed away. So they kept the campaign going and all of the characters, they cremated the character in game and then they took some of these ashes and then beat it in their weapons so that then they kept the campaign on with this character's ashes. So I have two questions.
Managing Large Game Collections
00:32:31
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One.
00:32:33
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Because you've now redone your shelves, does that mean all the games that myself and probably G-Money have of yours we get to keep? I don't have anything of yours, do I? Oh, who knows? As Shane, as Steve said, probably you've got to leave some space for new acquisitions. So I've got another two dozen Kickstarter still on the way. I've got to get any. What's in the front?
00:33:00
Speaker
What's in the box? T.I. phone. City of the big shoulders. Come on, show us the pile, Dave. We'll announce them all on the podcast and we'll sell them all for you. Show us the pile, you coward. Oh, hello. OK. Wasn't that guitar given to you? No, it was one of the... How much for the shoes? Outcast. I'll give you two dollars. Darwin's journey is mine. We know that one.
00:33:30
Speaker
I've already bagged that. Yeah. Wild Ascent. Wild Ascent's that one I think we've talked about. That's the Kickstarter that I regret spending a huge amount of money on. You have to be more specific. Yeah. We were on holiday with you last weekend, Darwin's Journey. Yeah, I know. And we didn't even open it. I've never heard of archive, but it must be awesome. It's got like five big boxes. Yeah, Helen, if you want Darwin's Journey, I'll forget that.
00:33:59
Speaker
I don't even know what it is. That was a great, that was an underrated joke, Steve. Thank you. You should get 100% credit for that. That sitcom level stuff. Yeah. Should we not a writer? I was too focused on Dave's games. I was shocked at his getting rid of his comics as well. Oh, comics. Yeah, no, just getting into that. So, I mean, and that's an early start.
00:34:23
Speaker
There's ones in there that I've had for three or four years that are still in shrink. And I think at the start of the collecting, I thought, oh, well, if I just leave it in shrink, maybe I'll play it at one stage, but if I don't, I can sell it. So yeah, it's good that that's actually come around. It is a weird thing, though, with board games. And there are a few things that are like this, but
00:34:45
Speaker
If you're sort of half interested in the game and you think you might like it, buying it and then reselling it isn't that big of a deal. Like you're probably only going to lose 15, 20% maybe. And like if someone said to you, are these $150 game?
00:35:04
Speaker
or you can rent it for six months for 30 bucks, see whether you like it. Like you'd probably say, yeah, that sounds perfect. And that's kind of what you're doing. You'd buy it for 150, sell it for 120 and move on with your life. It's not like you're selling it for five bucks. The money's still there. As far as an investment is concerned, it's not terrible.
00:35:24
Speaker
Yeah, they keep their value really well and the second-hand market's quite active. But that then raises a good point, Steve, and that's another thing I've looked at is because I have so many games and a lot of them are either quite expensive or high-end or rare through Kickstarter or something like that.
00:35:39
Speaker
is what, how can I go about potentially monetizing the collection? Like giving it to people, loaning out to someone, operating like a library to say, well, I'm not obviously playing the 300 games I have very regularly. So if you want one, just take it for a little while. If you like it, then we can talk.
00:35:59
Speaker
but rather than doing it as a formal library process, which I know some shops do, like you can actually go and pay a membership fee and then borrow games out and bring them back. I think a lot of that paid stuff, the love and the care isn't there, like the games get trashed or the pieces get lost or whatever, like any sort of hiring process, like you just, you don't care, you don't give a shit. You're paying for it for a short amount of time, you give it back, whatever conditions in is what conditions in.
00:36:27
Speaker
Interesting. Just in a giant zip lock bag, hey DG? Just all the components dumped in. Yeah, no boxes because they got, you know, we had to have a bonfire so we, you know, torch the boxes, but here's all your bits. The other thing I remember too with board games, and this is what I always think about when I buy them, is, you know, if you were to go do an escape room, for instance, with four people, that's going to cost you 120 bucks for an hour.
Financial and Emotional Value of Board Games
00:36:52
Speaker
You know, you go to the movies, it's going to cost you 50 bucks once you put popcorn stuff for a couple of hours. So even if you were to lose all the money of the game, unless you're buying through Angela Gainsworth, which I know some of you are, but except for those ends, that end of them, you're making your money back by just the quality of time you're getting from that game for the period you have it anyway. Yep.
00:37:14
Speaker
I remember Dan talked to me a lot about this. So he factors this a lot into his purchasing. He actually keeps a little tally on the inside of the box when he plays them. So he's got a little check mark. And every time he plays the game, he puts a little pencil mark on the inside of the box. And if he feels he played it enough times to get his value out of it, then it was a wise purchase and he's done the right thing.
00:37:32
Speaker
I know that on BG stats, you can put the dollar value of what you bought a game for in, and then it works out like how much it's costing you per play, like how much, which is bizarre. I'm like, this is cool. I'm going to do this. And then I started with Terra fully Mars inside. And because I'd bought so many extras, I'm like, oh, this looks bad. This is a very, yeah, I've got it down to a good dollar value, sure. But I didn't realize I'd spent this much money on these. So I stopped after that. I've only done those two games.
00:38:01
Speaker
to Helen's point right you could go to the movies as a family of four spend a hundred bucks easy yeah on your food your tickets etc for three hours of fun that's right you could buy a board game that we could all play four player that that everyone enjoys like king of tokyo will never lose you know leave my connection collection and that's what what king of tokyo is about 60 70 bucks now
00:38:28
Speaker
Now you're making money. You're building a connection in your family. And by the way, I reckon board games have outperformed your superannuation over the last two years. Just saying.
00:38:46
Speaker
It's any diamond on super and not on board games. My self-managed super fund is my wall over here. That means you've got to sell them when you retire though. That's the whole reason I'm keeping them. That's what I retire.
00:39:04
Speaker
But it brings in a lot of things, like there's a way you can actually track it now. So you can link your BGG and there's a website which tracks the replacement cost value. So you then put your collection into this spreadsheet and it goes, your collection is worth $20,000.
00:39:20
Speaker
Um, and you can, you know, some people need to do that sort of thing for insurance purposes. Some have got interest on how much money they've spent, um, or how they, how much they would need to replace it. But yeah, it can be quite confronting when you go, Oh, that was more than I thought was invested in that wall. That's kind of where you hide it from the partner as well. Sorry. Do you list it as an item on your insurance?
Nostalgia for Physical Media Collections
00:39:45
Speaker
I got mine as a special collection. It's actually a listed item. Yeah, I've got it listed. Yeah. Because it's like, I don't know, my insurance is, it's a collection is to X value and less specified. So I had to specify it to cover. It's mine specified as well. And I've got my BGG list as well printed off as my set, you know, as my, uh, and I update it regularly.
00:40:09
Speaker
I used to have $7,000 worth of DVDs that I had listed on my policy. And then you had $6,000, and then you had $5,000, and then you had $5,000. I used to have CDs. CDs was my thing. And I remember that was a very similar thing with board games. I wouldn't touch my CD collection. I would never give away a CD. I was very particular about them.
00:40:29
Speaker
I had about 20 CDs stolen out of my car, and that's when I found Winamp and Napstar. And I was like, oh, I've already spent the money, so I don't have an issue downloading it illegally, because I've already spent the money. And then that just sort of took over. And then I eventually, I remember the time I sold my CDs. It was like in 2009. And I just had a garage sale, and I had them all out the front. And it was awesome, because that was still,
00:40:55
Speaker
a long time ago enough that there were other music crazy people who love CDs. So all of my CDs got sold and, you know, a couple of bucks each, nothing too much. My brother, on the other hand, he has a CD collection that he has kept till now and he's gone, now it's too long. He wouldn't be able to give them away now. Like it's, it's gone past that point. So that's like the DVDs, right? Yeah. At one point that would have been valuable. And then, yeah, that was your show. That didn't surprise me.
00:41:24
Speaker
I had a whole top of the roof, big crate full of CDs, easily 200 plus CDs in there. We pulled them down out of the roof about three months ago because we had a miniskip arrive. And out of those 300, I've kept 20.
00:41:49
Speaker
The rest are in the miniskip. I don't even have a way to play CD anymore. Like if I wanted to listen to one. I was gutted because I'm sitting there going, I don't want anyone else to listen to these. That's how pissed off I was. I started smashing up everyone. I was snapping them all. My guy had some really rare shit in there and I'm just like, yep, I can snap that one. Snap that one. We had bloody metal flying everywhere.
00:42:14
Speaker
The whole front lawn was full of metal, so I snapped so many CDs. It's like Shaun of the Dead bit where they throw records at the zoo. It was like that. Then there was a whole pile I left for Lauren. She likes to say John Farmer, Madonna, and all that kind of stuff. What do you want to do with these? Bin them. I was like, really? Do you want to do what I'm doing, like snapping? She goes, no, no. I just politely put them in the bin.
00:42:43
Speaker
the little spot on the mini skiff but yeah no i literally kept 20 of my 200 plus cd collection
00:42:51
Speaker
See, I probably fall in the middle. I did a piece in about 2013, Steve, where I got a special external hard drive and copied them all over. So I still have that small disk somewhere in the computer of just all my music from forever ago. So the CDs then went in the bin or a game to other people or whatever, but I still have them all in an accessible format, whereas the DVDs, you can't really do that with.
00:43:17
Speaker
So I was the same for DVD. I just had boxes and boxes that I just gave to friends and help yourself. Anything good I was going to be. I didn't been mine. I sold a few and then realized how difficult that was going to be. And so I ended up giving them to a one of those by my DVD places. And it was hard because I was getting 10 cents for a DVD.
00:43:39
Speaker
You know, that was beautiful in beautiful condition. I'm like, I should just kept them and had like a DVDs in my car for my kids and let them ruin them because you know what I mean? But it happened. I sold them the week after I lost my dog and I'd lost her. She ended up having a, I don't want to take this to here. Anyway, she died of a tick and it was because I was sorting out clothes to do a, um, a garage that was on its house for baby clothes. And I was just like, I was like, I can't.
00:44:05
Speaker
I can't put any energy into this. If I hadn't, maybe I would have saved her. So I just, yeah, I got like 150 bucks, I think for my 300 DVDs. Well, I still have my DVD collection and won't ever part. I've got all the series of Will and Grace, Frasier, Firefly, Star Trek, original in blue. All one season of Firefly.
00:44:34
Speaker
Maybe wash won't die this time. Yeah And how have they not remade that they've remade every other god he can't just They're remaking the game even though there's outer rim which is even better, but yeah, that's gonna be interesting Yeah, it looks good looks like good production Out of ribbon kills it
00:45:00
Speaker
Just yeah, but rim shots, you know But I do have my dick and I won't ever sell my DVD collection because do you have a functioning DVD player? No My 1970s Sanyo hi-fi system I've connected a bluetooth and
00:45:26
Speaker
I've actually converted it to Bluetooth now so I can Spotify through this old 1970s. I can't play DVD. Your turntable works but your DVD player is rooted.
00:45:41
Speaker
but I can Spotify to my 1970s, I can't play a fucking DVD. I'll tell you what, this is why it's good that a lot of young kids aren't into board games because, and I don't mean that really, it'd be great if they were, but like when I was a kid, I spent all of my money on CDs and later DVDs. Kids don't have to spend their money on CDs and DVDs now because they got Mum and Dad's Spotify count or Netflix or whatever else.
00:46:05
Speaker
So if they're in the board games, all of them waste money would go into board games, which when I was a kid was all of my money went into CDs. So I would have like, I would have like 1500 games if I was 18. I signed up for one of those, those like scam pyramid scheme things where you pay your money every month and they send you one. Did anybody else see that? CD. Yeah. Or CD. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a subscription service for CDs. And so you got a catalog and you got to pick out like three or four every month.
00:46:34
Speaker
Do you know what's really sad, Steve? What they're actually spending their money on is bloody in-app purchases. Yeah, robots. And you're like, what was the point of that? There was no point for that. A little bit of CD. We had it for life, if you wanted to.
00:46:50
Speaker
And I actually think, and I think Dave and I have discussed this before, right? Is that, you know, we call it the golden age, whatever you want. We could be old cranky men yelling at clouds. But when I was in my mid teens, early twenties, and I bought a CD, it was like 30 bucks.
00:47:07
Speaker
I would persevere with that CD even if I didn't really like it on the first five plays. And then some of those, like I remember specifically The Bends by Radiohead. I hated that album when I bought it. I'm like, oh, what a mistake this is. I shouldn't have bought this. And let's do it a couple more times.
00:47:23
Speaker
And then Radiohead became my favorite band for like eight years because a person and then you start going on, actually, no, this is really good. And I'm really getting into this where now you don't do that because it's like it's it's so instant. And if you don't like it, well, then you just you get it off your cue and you never see it ever again. And I wonder whether like that, that because you've invested your money in it, you felt like you had to make
00:47:45
Speaker
it valuable in some way. So you'd still listen to, Hey Foxy, my panda mom, that's me on. You didn't have any other options though. Yeah. Like you, you'd spent the money on cities. That's all your money you had for the week. You weren't going to buy like 15 other CDs. Yeah. You're done. It was that or nothing. So I'll take you guys full circle. My first vinyl album that I purchased my hard earned cash was cheap trick dream police. First tape. So audio tape.
00:48:15
Speaker
was Bon Jovi's Slippy Room Wet. First CD was Def Leppard's Hysteria. Oh, that's a great album. Right, so. That was actually, he's another full circle. That was my first cassette that I bought, was Hysteria by Def Leppard. There you go. Just, it's amazing. And then, so today, I was very proud of Max. So Maxie, he wanted a PS5.
00:48:43
Speaker
And this kid says, like, there's no tomorrow. And he, I said to him, oh, by the way, there's some kind of specialty at EB Games where you can trade in your Switch with a couple of games, it gets your discount off the PS5. Anyway, so I mentioned it to him. He said, he phoned me today. He goes, hey, when you get home, can we talk about this a bit further? So I said, yep. So up we went up to EB Games with his Switch.
00:49:14
Speaker
He took five of his games out and he bought PS5, traded his Switch and a few games. His cost was 266 bucks. And I just went, well done son, good stuff. He's now like, have you seen a PS5? You're freaking like a PC, they're huge. And he set up,
00:49:42
Speaker
He's got his PC. Right next to his PC is his PS5. And the kid is just living life. But he's happy. So it's 266 bucks. That's better than the Roblox. Bloody coins or whatever they do in that game. But okay, quick question. Did he get a disc version or a digital version?
00:50:05
Speaker
I have what? Yeah, it's two, yeah. Yeah, so you can get one that actually takes discs still, so you can buy games on discs, so you still own them, or you can just get a download version. He got the disc version. Yeah, so he clever, because, and that's always been the thing, like any sort of digital content you've got, if you haven't protected it well enough, you haven't got your account or your login details, it's gone. You can download a game for a hundred bucks, and if you don't know your password, you never get to use it again. So being dad, dad was like, you know, I'm so proud of you.
00:50:35
Speaker
go and buy, go and pick a few games and I'll, cause you can't buy a PS5 without having the game to take home with you. But I'm sorry, you know, a console shouldn't cost you 1100 bucks if you're still going to have to spend a hundred bucks a game. Like they should just be like discounted so that you buy more games.
00:50:55
Speaker
Do you know what I mean? I think it's just crazy. That's not how the money making thing works. No, but he did well. He bought the second hand PS5 games. So he bought three for less than a hundred bucks. Nice. And so, but then, but what you can also do with the PS5 is you can play your PS4 games. So he's got GTA.
00:51:17
Speaker
Nice. Grand Theft Auto, best game. Which he loves. Lots of life lessons in that game. You can play that game, and that's what he plays as his best mate. He asked the question, he said, can I play GTA in PS4 version on my PS5? And the guy said, yes. And he said, OK, I'm happy with that.
00:51:35
Speaker
So Dave, I disagree with you. I much prefer digital versions and I'm surprised you don't because what's worse than not being able to get access to your games is when you spend $100 on a disc and you've got young kids and that disc doesn't work anymore and you're like, cool, now we're going to go and spend another $100 on the digital version.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. No, there's definitely things that are it's better for absolutely games and music as well. But I mean, we're all in the board game industry. There's no way to digitize these things. Well,
00:52:08
Speaker
in the same fashion like you can BGA and you can play games for free and do whatever you want but it's not the same it's a different experience so the the walls that we've all got that they are analog as it comes and really for me that's the same with comic books there's there's digital ways to read these things but it's not the same as cracking that 50 year old paper going oh the different experience that you get with the real thing
00:52:33
Speaker
The thing is that they're active walls, right? Like, yeah, they're walls of games, but you regularly go and grab games off them, even if you aren't grabbing all the games. Like, it's a thing. It's not art. It's... It's art. I just sit here and stare at it sometimes. It's pretty colours. But do we want to segue slightly into what we have been pulling off the wall lately? It's been about a month since we did one of these. Yeah. All right.
00:52:58
Speaker
Look, for me, the only game I've played in the last couple of weeks in physical is... I played sub-terror with Hellen, but I don't know, I still play Thunder. But TO, we played a bit of TO. I introduced a few new people and I played four or five games of TO at different times. It's
Current Excitement in Board Gaming
00:53:13
Speaker
been good. I've watched Troy, who is a very tactical, strategic gamer, get absolutely pants in his first game and then figure it out. He said he went away, did some research, came back and then crushed us all. So his first game, he got 37 points.
00:53:28
Speaker
In his third game, he got 170 points. Nice. Yeah, bit of a turnaround. So yeah, he figured it out. And that's what he does. It's nice to play with those kind of people, but he was very unhappy with his first performance. Such a great game. Such a great game. What's the TO Kickstarter thing coming?
00:53:49
Speaker
It's just a deluxe version with all the expansions. I think it's like a one, one hit thing. Yeah. Yeah. It looks really good, but yeah, I'm glad. I know it's still, it's not official yet. So by the time this podcast releases, it'll already be off keystart and be fulfilling. But as of, as of recording, it's yet to be fully announced, but it looks like they're not adding any extra stuff in. It's just everything's coming out. Can you get it as a deluxe upgrade to your existing stuff?
00:54:15
Speaker
I don't, I haven't said that yet, but yeah, I'm not sure. I did notice someone was selling it on a marketplace with everything around about 150 bucks. Which is an absolute bargain considering what the Kickstarter is going to be at least three, $400 I would say. So. Yeah. It's a pyramids game. Boom!
00:54:40
Speaker
that was good also at 53 minutes Helen said the f-word by the way language
00:54:58
Speaker
So that's just TO and Subterra? Tell me about Subterra, Helen. Subterra 2. Okay. Because I owned Subterra 1 for a while and it was a game that I moved on because I never got to play it. Like I was just, it was always not the game that I chose. And I can't remember, is it a Cthulhu theme or not?
00:55:19
Speaker
I think it must have gotten tied up with, I bought a couple of Cthulhu theme games and decided it wasn't for me. And I think it might've got tied up with all those. What is Cthulhu? Just remind me. Arkham Horror, sort of. Yeah, all that stuff. Time up, he and Ty, and you'll find out. Don't, in fact, nobody, please, anybody listening, don't type that in. But anyway, tell me about Subterra, because you talk about it a lot.
00:55:47
Speaker
Um, well, I think that the separate, they are slightly different. So some terror one is basically you're locked in a cave with terrors, um, and you're trying to get out of the cave. So you've got to find the exit. So you've got a certain amount of time, you've got a certain amount of battery life in your torch and you're with multiple people. One person might be a diver, one person might be the leader, one person, and everybody has different abilities.
00:56:11
Speaker
So someone might be able to demo through walls. Somebody might be able to hide from a horror if it's near him. Someone else might be able to dive through the flood. So each round things happen. So the cave will flood or it will tremor or it will gas. There'll be a gas leak or things like this and they all do different damage to you if you're on one of the squares that have
00:56:35
Speaker
flood or you're on a flood tile or you're on a gas tile or you're on a a squeeze tile. So basically you've just got to try and survive, get out before you run out of battery, you've got to find the exit. So find the exit, get all the tiles down and in the last six tiles, somewhere in those last six tiles is the exit tile. So you're trying to reveal
00:56:57
Speaker
tiles so you can reveal them, which means you put them down, but don't move in, or you can go into it. So, um, which means you reveal it and move in. So if it's a bad time, you're like, it's a gas round and it's a gas tile, you immediately lose straight life. And that might be all the life you have to someone that has to come and save you when it's not a gas. So you're just trying to get out. Only one person has to get out, but obviously you're a team working together. You try to get everybody out. And then some territory is the same.
00:57:26
Speaker
But the differences are you're in a temple and you're trying to find the keys to get the relic and you've got to get the artifact, sorry, out of the, out of the temple before you're in, it's a volcanic temple. So once you take the artifact, the volcano erupts and you're then got lava. So you've got to get all out before the lava gets you. But again, it still has your trema, your traps.
00:57:51
Speaker
all those sorts of things that can hurt you along the way they've got guardians who are guarding the temple and they come to try and attack you as well so but yeah they're cooperative games underground but yeah they're just a lot of fun they're an easy game for anybody to learn the good thing there's actually a really cool character in Subterra 2 I can't remember what the name of the character is but basically they're like
00:58:17
Speaker
the money. And so that character allows you to say at the very start of the temple, and just give your give your goes to other people. So you're thinking of somebody going, Oh, you know, I'll send my slaves out to do the work and get hurt and stuff. And I'll just sit here drinking my tea. And it's, um, it's a lot of fun. But yeah, so you've got priests and stuff who can heal people from afar, things like that.
00:58:42
Speaker
So Helen and I played it. And so it's part of the weekend where we got away with the families. They had an Atari table. It was this like old TV set up thing. It was built into like a beer barrel and just all these Atari games you can play, like pick from and play. Subterra 2 is basically Dig Dug. Yeah, yeah, it is. It is. It is that.
00:59:05
Speaker
Yeah. So it was, it was really quite enjoyable. Like MIM likened it to Forbidden Desert, bit of that exploration of tiles and things happen and you kind of get towards the exit and you basically got to take your actions efficiently. So you don't get killed by the natives or Fern and the lava while exploring and finding stuff. I would rate it higher than Forbidden Desert, but they both have a place with a different audience. You have those challenges where do you,
00:59:34
Speaker
stop and revive someone or do you keep on going? And so you don't make it out, right? So we had, um, we actually were just talking about this today with the group and one, one of them has played four times and then they've gotten out once. Um, so it's very easy to not get out and get the lava to get you. We were very fortunate. We got out. I think there was a little bit of, um, we passed on the artifacts. So only, only got out and Dave and I perished me trying to save him. But, um,
01:00:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's an easy game. It is such an easy game, but it's great. It's super fun. Love it. I own Subterra 1. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not lucky enough to have 2. Well, I think I wanted it. Originally, I wasn't buying 2, so I didn't go in for it. My friends did. And then we played. He got a copy from overseas after everything went down.
01:00:30
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And we played it, I'm like, oh no, this is awesome. And both are so similar, but yet different enough that they both have a place. So I own both now. Nice. Absolutely recommend playing Subterra 1 though. Total blackness, UV light. Super fun. Everything's glowing. It's amazing.
01:00:56
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But can you please bring number two to Bruce Connor? Absolutely. I won't be able to play it because I'll only be playing stone mine games but yes. Now we'll find some time. Well a game that has, I'd say a resurgence but I guess it kind of would never was
01:01:15
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you know, not being played in our house is Dice Throne has been huge in our house in the last month or so. To the point where I had a moment, like I keep stirring my middle child because he's, I'm not a board gamer, I'm not a board gamer. And now he's like, dad, can we play a board game? I'm like, yeah, what do you want to play? Dice Throne. Like, okay, all right. And I'm getting a little bit sick of it always being Dice Throne, but it's fine, I enjoy it. We've got all the characters, so it's always different.
01:01:44
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But he came out because I played the cursed pirate and I didn't quite, first time I played it, didn't quite work out how it worked first time, played it a second time and really figured out how to play it. And he was playing with some other character, I can't remember the name of the character, and he came out and he's like, want to play Dicerone? Like, yeah, if you want. He said, I've been watching this video on how to play with whatever this character is. And I'm like,
01:02:06
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you watch the video about board games you're converted you're a board gamer and it's like i'm not a board gamer i'm like i don't know i don't know man you watched a youtube video on how to play a board game that's a board gamer
01:02:19
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But yeah, between him, Raph and I, I think we played about 15 or 16 rounds over the last couple of weeks, which has been awesome. And yeah, again, like the beauty of that game is in how somehow these two very random different characters can come together and win by one health or two health, like it's always super close, which is awesome.
01:02:40
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Can you mix and match the Marvel stuff with the normal stuff? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we literally we got, we got season one, season two, Marvel and Santa and Krampus and you can literally just grab whichever you want and go for gold. So, yeah. Good fun. Yeah. So yeah, definitely, definitely the most played game in my household since the start of the month. Jeebus, what have you been playing?
01:03:08
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Frost Haven. We played Ready Set Bet. Magic Maze, Quacks and Camelot. Great selection of games.
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And they started off correct and then they just, we were not playing Magic Maze even remotely how you're supposed to play it. It wasn't even the game. It was who could tap something louder on the table. That was the real game.
01:03:43
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It does sound like a fun game. That is actually how I play it normally. Yeah, I don't even know what the game is. I just hit the table really hard. It seems what everyone else is doing, right? Right in Rome. How's Frosthaven go? Amazing. It is the best thing ever. I'm so happy.
01:04:03
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I'm waiting for all the extra bits to come before I play it again because I've got like the dividers and stuff. I kind of want it all set up a bit better than it currently
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is. So I'm waiting for that before I get back into it. I'm very, very keen, very keen. I've just been playing beer and bread. That is it. I've already spoken about that game. It's great. And scores. Didn't you play scores? I've been playing and learning scores, yes.
01:04:33
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And, um, but, uh, beer and bread is just super fun. Taught Phil yesterday at Thirsty Chiefs. There were a few beers in and, um, it was such a good game. I absolutely crushed him. And he said, um, I like it. I'm going to play it again. I'll do something different. He got the last round.
01:04:58
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And he said, I can't play any of my four cards left in my hand at all. That's going to help me. So he said, I fold, I'm going to the bar and get another round of beers. That's okay, you do that. That's good. But beer and bread's good. Probably my favorite two-player game, without a doubt. And I'm looking forward to teaching slash playing scholars.
01:05:29
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four-player on Wednesday night. You know what? I just remembered what our previous topic was because it was my idea. It's the games that we talked about that we wanted to play over the next month. It has been a month and none of us have probably played any of them. I don't think they were. I bought the ones that I'd been waiting on. It's basically my first board game. Real board game purchase from a store this year. So I bought Ready Set Bet. I bought Bad Company.
01:05:59
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And Splendor has been getting a little bit of a resurgence in our, mostly with my game group at work, but it's also come home. So I picked up Splendor Jewel, thinking that my wife and I might like the two-player version. So yeah, really set bet. And no, they're on their way. So, but really set bet and bad company were the two that I was looking forward to playing. So I'm going to solve that problem in the next few weeks, hopefully. Very good. Two good games.
01:06:27
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All right, well, let's wrap up on this at one hour and nine minutes in the first episode of season two of the board game, Chin Wang. I think it's been a fun evening. It's been good to catch up with you all. I've enjoyed it. It was a fun evening. Me too.
01:06:42
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so i'm taking offers on that um darwin's journey if you guys if you want to message me for obviously you message me personally i'll see you i'll see you tomorrow digi yeah all right look i'm happy to forgo that and go that that taji you got tagi yeah yeah i'll take that i'll take tagi yeah do play a game tharam will love that one too okay very good
01:07:09
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And quick shout out Shane before we go because we probably won't do another episode. We definitely won't release another episode before we have Briskon. Briskon is probably about a month after before this podcast gets released. See how I go. I'll try and see if I can get two up a week. So this comes out just before Briskon. Nice. But now Briskon is going to be awesome. We can't wait. You know, we've put so much effort into it. We've sold out tickets a month beforehand, which is a nice relief for me.
01:07:40
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awesome presenters coming up. Martin Wallace is going to be there for the, you know, teaching you games with, sorry, Steve. Steve's rocking this chair. I've got a six story about Martin Wallace. I'll let you finish. I'll tell you. We've got Martin. We've got all the other people coming along to play test and teach new games. We've got scholars on show that Grant's going to be teaching everyone how to play. And me and Dave just going to be wandering around.
01:08:10
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having some fun. I've got Lauren and Max are gonna sell drinks on the canteen. They're gonna come along and help us out. And for those that are the VIG gamers, wait till you see what board games you're getting in your goodie bag. Some pretty good shit in there.
01:08:31
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Like what? Now, what's the situation with people? You will have to wait in CG. I'm not getting anything, am I? I got coal. You got shit, mate. There's a dog turd in here. Sorry, Helen. Oh, no, I was just going to say, what happens? Is there anything where people can say, oh, we can't come anymore? And what do they do? We've got a waiting list. And that waiting list is...
01:09:00
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Growing every day, but if anyone can't make the day they need to cancel Reach out to us and that way release those tickets for someone on the waiting list. We will potentially let a few into the game day on the day So they can play some games We are sold out event, which is awesome absolutely awesome and
01:09:30
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But we can't wait to entertain many people. VR distributions and Catan, Yellow, all of those companies that supported us with free games. And we can't thank you enough. And thanks to Brita, that VR. And Tim. Good peeps. Good peeps. All right. Well, thank you all. Good peeps. Thanks for your evening and your
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funny stories about selling board games. I've appreciated our time together. Hope to see you all soon. Bye guys.