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S1 After Pshow: To The Spirit of Steve Franks
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Series spoilers abound! Want to hear what Kylie and Skyler think about the whole first season and all the goodness to come? Then grab yourself some double chocolate mango pineapple scones and a pina colada! We're getting comfy and talking improv, bits, and our favorites in this bonus episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction and Psych Season 1 Overview
00:00:20
Speaker
All right, hi everyone and welcome to the Psych 6101 where we discuss everything about the world of Psych and the antics of Shawn and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar and this is my partner, Kylie, and today we're going to be talking about Psych season one just in general because it's the after show. So exciting. I feel like we need like an air horn or something. I know, bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam bam. No holds barred, whatever happens is gonna happen. We've got pina coladas. Yes. That we've made ourselves. Cheers. Cheers. Yeah, I mean.
00:00:58
Speaker
I think a while back we put piña coladas down as something we would have at the aftershow, but yeah I don't think nobody ever has piña coladas. Well, they see something in a coconut at one point, and I feel like when I see coconut, I think piña colada. and and There's also a lot of pineapple smoothies. Beverages. That's where they put pineapples. It's just into beverages this season. I don't even know when the last time I had a piña colada is. Me either, honestly. It's really good. Yeah, I And you picked a recipe that called for like actual pineapple chunks. Yes. A lot of the recipes I saw were just juice. so Chunks. I want chunks. I know. And that feels like more psyched. It does, I agree. Because they do have a lot of smoothies. and They do.
00:01:46
Speaker
yeah yeah Yeah, this is like a smoothie-esque. Yeah, I did put ice in mine. I didn't call for it, but I was like, you know it should be slushy-ish. I froze the pineapple chunks. I should have told you. Okay, i I was like, that would be a good idea, yeah. yeah um But it turned out good. Yeah, I agree, very tasty. I did. Before we got on, I took an artsy picture of the scone and me and Claudia to post. think um Oh yeah, so our other treat is the Double Chocolate Mango Pineapple Scones from, I don't know what the name of the coffee shop is, but they go there in an episode of it. Hold on, let me check. I'm getting it everywhere. Yeah, scones are maybe not like the best like podcast poop because they're so dry. yeah We're going to have like long chewing breaks.
00:02:39
Speaker
If that's your thing, cool. Otherwise, I think we might cut it out. yeah Yeah, cut out as much as we can of the ah the chewing. but yeah When he mentioned those scones, it sounds very intense. Okay, it's then forget me not. oh yeah apparently made fresh daily. That's what he says. Oh, yeah. But yeah, a lot going on. A lot going on. I haven't gotten very far in mine. Okay. I was a little concerned. Let me take a proper bite here. I'm going to cut it, not cut it, but break it in half so I can start right from the middle. There you go. Yeah, I was a little concerned when concocting these. Mm-hmm. mango, pineapple, and more chocolate. Are they the same kind of chocolate? Are they like different? Is it one semi-sweet and one different? Oh, good question. This is a lot of flavors, but it's actually surprisingly tasty. It is, and I'm like not usually a fruit in baked goods person. That's fair. But you know, we got to do it. Yeah, for the pod. But yeah, so far so good.
00:03:43
Speaker
Yeah, a little dry. I do keep like trying to grab it. Every time I grab it, it like disintegrates. And that might just be my baking skills. I don't like this skill. Do you bake much? Um, no. You're like, no. I cook way more than I bake. I used to bake. When I was in like high school, I liked making treats for my friends and bringing them in. It was just kind of fun. But now I ah cook. I'm a pretty good cook. I can like intuitively feel the cooking. I could not intuitively feel the baking. i I bake quite often, um so i'm I'm pretty confident, Baker. I was going to say, just the pictures that we sent to each other, mine look likelobs's like and there's like scones. And I was like, oh my God, this looks okay. This makes make sense now. Not my first time making a scone. My first time making a scone. Definitely my first time making a scone. Well, I'm glad to share this with you. Pretty good. So yeah, we we talked throughout this season.
00:04:39
Speaker
about wanting to eat some of the foods. But we found it increasingly difficult to keep up on it. So now we are having like a mini chatten chat and snack, snack and chat. Yeah, maybe like in the future, if there's ones like we want to revisit, I do feel like like everything, you know, we've talked about how they kind of commit to bits. They do. As we go along. So like they're what there really wasn't as much food stuffs in season one. That's very true. To like play with, but as we go along, I think there's things I definitely want to make. like The main thing that I really want to make is the cinnamon pie. Oh, well we have to. They're going to a cinnamon festival we have. yeah i mean I'm really looking forward to that. What is it, season six?
00:05:26
Speaker
I know forever from now. yeah but Until then, we've got pineapple upside down cake. I know you were interested in- Quattro quesos dos fritos. That is going to be a little difficult. That's going to be intense. We'll figure it out. Yeah, we did make vegan scones. The quattro's quesos dos fritos will be interesting. I feel like we can figure it out. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. It's going to be so intense. I feel like just just like the show. Yeah. Foodstuffs get so intense. I'm thinking of this food truck episode. Oh my God. That's going to be an after show in itself. I know. Well, you could make so many of those and they would just be so delicious. I look forward to it.
00:06:05
Speaker
Me too, me too. Yeah, we're gonna have to definitely plan out. Yeah, I do like the after show being like the food, like the potluck tree because like we have all season to be like, okay, this is these are the stars. This is the one. Maybe we'll have pina coladas every time. ah Oh, like our resident cocktail. I think that's a good idea. And these were so simple. They're like three things. Yeah, I was expecting it to be more complicated. Never like thought to make one.
00:06:37
Speaker
yeah But yeah, it was pretty easy. pretty good. And it goes down smooth. Nice and smooth. Not too many chunks or anything. It was fun like preparing for this. We had a lot of homework. We did homework. But it was all like good stuff. It was all
Podcast Creation and Recurring Segments
00:06:57
Speaker
stuff fun. Yeah, it was so fun. Like I was watching the bloopers and I was just cracking up to myself. i like dad yeah We've been listening to the the psychologist are and we watched the
00:07:08
Speaker
last two for season one. I was like, oh my God. I was like, we called it. I was like, we knew it. How did we know? I know. I feel like in some ways, at least the beginning of this episode may be a continuation of last episode because like a lot of scary sherry discussion yes to be had. i didn't You listened to the poker one. I wasn't a both of them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I didn't really take notes for the poker one. There wasn't really much. Yeah, there wasn't much other than just like, I was like, Oh, I love these people. I was listening to them. Oh my gosh. So cute. Like, you can tell that they are really just friends and just love each other. So like cute. Yeah.
00:07:50
Speaker
it Definitely, I had never listened to the podcast before. just Me either, yeah. Just because I just hadn't and like I definitely will want to go back and go through them all. Yeah, I know. We're going to have to be, while we're doing this, we're going to have to be a little intentional about which ones we listen to. Yeah. Well, I did find like, so in the poker one, they didn't have a guest. um Right. It was just the two of them. yeah Yeah. Which is like great. And we heard a lot of like behind the scenes stories and stuff. But I do feel like with James being on the scary Sherry one, it was like more making up, which is kind of what we were looking for. it Yes. Yeah. I took a lot of notes on that one.
00:08:24
Speaker
When there was one, when I was just looking to find, you know, scrolling just to find the poker one and the scary share one, I think Steve Franks was on one or two of them. And I was like, that would be really cool to yeah listen to some of those and get some of his behind the scenes. Yeah. thoughts and knowledge on the creation of it. Yeah, because we always ask like... We do. ...questions to the spirit of Steve Frank. To the spirit of Steve Frank. So it's Tim and Maggie who play Lassie and Jules on the show. They are apparently best friends, which hearing that I was like, I love that. So sweet. Makes me so happy. The two of them are best friends. They pretty much decided during the pandemic, it sounds like,
00:09:08
Speaker
to podcast, as they say, podcast the shit out of it and talk about the creation of Psych and this thing that they just really love. And I think it was interesting listening to the podcast. and At this point, I'm thinking of the Scary Sherry episode. Listening to the podcast and hearing James Roday Rodriguez talk about season one, I thought was so interesting because he really spoke about it as if, and I'm sure in the moment when creating a show, it very much so feels like
00:09:43
Speaker
It's this very fledgling, like, seat of your pants. What can you get away with? What can't you get away with kind of thing? But from an outside viewer, like for us, I think we watch season one and it still feels... maybe young, like we've been saying characters, but it doesn't feel like it was a, like it didn't feel like a mess at all. Oh no. Yeah. Sometimes the way he was like talking about it, I was like, you guys were good. It was great. Like, ah yeah you know? Yeah. One quote I wrote wrote down for him that was, I thought was really interesting was when he said the studio will tell you to make your pilot 15 times the first season. Like it's such an interesting idea. And we, like we have talked about,
00:10:24
Speaker
like each relationship and kind of like we were visiting the same themes with them. So yeah, and just like the idea that by episode 15, they were like, okay, we really need to establish Jules. Yeah. about Like how it is her episode. She's like the driving force of that episode. um And how that's like the last piece of that puzzle of season one, because they hadn't had an opportunity to do that. And it was so crazy for me to think that there was even a possibility of Jules not being like the Jules that we know. So true, yeah. You know, because we have revisiting like the, the side quickie trivia. I was like in the pilot. I was like, Oh yeah, Lucinda Berry. Like that seems like ages ago that we talked about her and stuff. I know. Yeah, Jules was even there. Yeah. I mean, 15 episodes. And I know we had some weeks where we like fell off for
00:11:19
Speaker
various reasons. yeah um But like we've been at this for like three and a half, four months. That's crazy to think. For that to be where we started and now it's yeah that's crazy. Yeah, it is fun to experience the season like this. like yeah week by week, because usually whenever you watch it, it's like, you know, I'm, I'm housed in season one, like a day or two.
00:11:47
Speaker
bingitt straight yeah But like to really like take our time and like think about it and like look at the referenced texts and like, even like hear them talk about it and stuff. Yeah, it's super interesting. Yeah. Well, and I think it sets up, especially season one, it sets up so much for what the show can be. Like I loved also hearing James talk about figuring out how they were going to do this homage kind of spooky episode and how he had all those extra stuff planned.
00:12:19
Speaker
yeah cause well i mean yeah The way that came about was like just the whole like that why the way the episode came about was so interesting because like we had talked about how they hadn't like leaned in yet to this homage thing that becomes like such a thing for them. yeah And the idea that Steve Frank went to James and like was like, you do scary. like That's so cool. I love James' stories about like wanting to take it too far and not having any idea. Also, I feel like we have talked about it before, but I think we're going to have to watch Gravy at some point. Yeah, I wrote that down too. I literally wrote down, we need to rewatch Gravy. I totally have watched it. I i remember it coming out, like because Maggie says, like anybody listening to this podcast probably has seen Gravy, which yeah was cute. Did we watch that together? Was it, were we in school? Okay. Yeah. Cause it came out, I want to say it was like 2014. Yeah. He even said it. Yeah. And we were, yeah, we were in our, our, our story orange. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:13:19
Speaker
I think we like purchased it or something. Like there was some sort of like, I don't know. I don't remember how it was released, but yeah, we really wanted to support. Yeah. Yes. I remember that was exactly the discussion. This might not be like our genre, but we want to support teams. We're going to watch it. And by the end of this, I don't know how long we want to save. Well, maybe we should save it to the end since it did come out kind of yeah towards the end of the run. But by the end, we will be kind of more horror aficionados than we have started out on this journey. That's true. another
00:13:56
Speaker
movie that came up in that conversation was An American Werewolf in Paris. which I think we need to watch that one too. yeah Well, we will because that's Let's Get Hairy is a total homage to that movie. So yeah, which is like so fun to think about that that is James' is like origin story as like a horror guy. that And that story in and of itself was hysterical. yeah oh yeah Watching this movie at six. Yeah. and everything I did make a note like should we start looking at the directors of episodes? Talk a lot about them. Yeah. And he is the director of an American werewolf comparison, like a bunch of other iconic films. And like, I mean, how cool so cool to be James and like have written this.
00:14:39
Speaker
This little horror thing that like never having done that before and then they bring in like your idol. I know. To direct it like wow. And then he had like coffee with him or like different kind of pitch. All those stories. Yeah, so cool. So cool. I mean, we definitely could start looking into that. in see I did notice they mentioned the director on the poker one too. Being like their first female. yeah Yeah. So yeah, maybe that would just be like something too. Yeah. check out. Yeah, I think it'd be interesting. And especially because I know they bring some people back a couple of times. Yeah. To just keep that in mind. Mm hmm. Yeah, and I thought it was really interesting. Yeah, all these stories were so great to hear from them from the podcast. I think it just gives a little extra context to how the show developed. Yeah. And I loved hearing James Rodeo Rodriguez talk about like making the horror comedy
00:15:39
Speaker
nice You know, cause I guess they hadn't, and he says this, they hadn't really found exactly like where the pocket was yeah or the the, you know, the show yet. And I think we, we got that. We've kind of talked about that. But for him to like, come, I can just imagine him coming into this full throttle and still friends being like, no, can't have that head roll all the way down the stairs. Interesting. like yeah I don't think we can do that. Yeah. but' yeah but you know
00:16:10
Speaker
well yeah and i I loved, like my heart was so warmed by hearing them talk about Steve Franks who like apparently had never done anything like this before. I know, I would have assumed that he was like totally on the same wavelength there, but like that's so cool. Well, and I think, honestly, that's probably part of the reason why we love this show so much because although it is a classic procedural, it is very, you know, Sherlockian in ways, very, very traditional showing of a mystery. it also subverts a lot of the expectations that you have of the show like this. And part of that might just be because he
00:16:46
Speaker
did it his own way, which I love. Yeah, well, we've also talked about like how different shows or movies or anything like could have kind of a different um approach to like how the universe
Psych's Popularity and Cultural Significance
00:17:00
Speaker
might be expanded. And we talked about, like in Ted Lassa, those guys coming from sketch comedy and being in the, or like from SNL. and like um So the the attitude there is, like any skill anybody has, let's bring it in. yeah which is like this The idea that they had, oh, another thing I wanted to bring up on this was like, this is like a little sidebar, but four projects, like the the first block of episodes, like until they say, let's come back in January, it came out like over the summer, right? August. And then they come back in January. So like, I wonder if they made them like, if they even had them written or like what? Oh, like because the idea that they didn't have the finale written until yeah the fact that James was even in the picture.
00:17:45
Speaker
for him to go to James and be like, let's write an episode. But I love that he was like, OK, let's do a horror episode. I'll get James to do it, because he's a big horror guy. Like, that's such that, like, bringing in people's skill sets, which, yeah I mean, they do often, like, with, um you know, like, later with Lassie and tap or Dule and tap dancing yeah and, like, all that stuff. um So, yeah, I just love that because they do. They just are, like, having fun and, like, Just letting it have a life of its own. Yeah. And we've, I mean, the two of us have said this for years back when we watched, you know, Gilmore Girls, but I'm thinking when we watch like Sherlock and and things like that, we literally used to say we love shows that just do their thing. Like they just do it because they think it's going to be a cool thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. And they commit hard. Like they commit a bit like, yeah.
00:18:41
Speaker
Oh, and they commit to the bit. Like there is no tomorrow. But it was it was so interesting to hear like the behind the scenes workings of all of this. And i yeah, it was so interesting to hear James say that there were like certain jokes or certain like B plots that they kind of had but like hadn't put them many anywhere. You had like a total like philosophical like reading of Gujberg's role in that episode and like the the separate planes that Lassie and the rest of the team went and they're like, Oh, it just happened. Which like what a beautiful happy accident. is hey Perfect. It landed in the perfect spot. There's that quote.
00:19:24
Speaker
leave room for God to walk through the door or something. That's what that feels like. Well, in the way James talked about it, like Steve Franks not being like a horror guy. And so that episode is such a marriage of their two like methodologies, I guess, or their backgrounds. And like the way it comes together and like does create such a space for like all of the relationships to really like further realize is just like so cool and magical. Yeah, it was. Magical, I think, is the perfect word for it. It really was just a magical end this season. Like, just so perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And that last scene, I mean, we talked about this last time, like you said, it's like kind of like an extension of Scary Share. Yeah. That last scene, I'm in love with that last scene. Lassie realizing how people perceive him and Jules and Gus and Sean, like vibing and doing their own thing and then welcoming him into it with the throwing of the fortune cookie, like just so
00:20:21
Speaker
Beautiful. And none of that would have been possible without Guitchberg. Yes. Yes. I mean, Destiny, because they were saying like Guitchberg didn't fit anywhere and they just had this character, they wanted to put a bit but her in. And the rest is history. The rest is history. Here we are. Thank you goodness. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see how season two kind of differs from season one. Cause it did, you know, they, they said it felt kind of like getting your sea legs, you know? yeah And I think they're gonna, or I hope they come into season two with a little bit more confidence in
00:20:58
Speaker
all of these characters being able to do what it is that they need them to do and like how they work together and all of that good stuff. i Yeah. Well, one thing, because I know like part of the reason we wanted to listen to this was like to get a sense of how much freedom they had like for improvisation and things like that, which we definitely got confirmation that therere they did improvise. because they're asked about it. And then I also felt watching the bloopers, you could tell like they were like, okay, we're going to take this 10 times and just, you know, go for it. Yeah, it could have been all James or like maybe the director was feeding like certain things like he.
00:21:32
Speaker
In Scary Sherry, James mentioned like something coming from John Landis, which again was the director. um But we've talked about like the the collaborative nature, of like what you see on screen. like You don't know where it came from, because it's like so cool that like all these people get to kind of be a part of what the final product is. But it does feel like, even though in season one they clearly were doing the improv and like letting him go. I wonder if like, you know, as they because they were like having to establish everything and stuff like maybe they just like use more of the crazy stuff later on. Because we know probably bla because we felt like in the later episodes, even like it did get bigger and like, yeah, all the poker stuff, which was like why we want to listen to that episode of Yeah, the podcast, because he's just like, it felt like a turning point of just how outlandish she could get.
00:22:26
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um And so, yeah, maybe in those later episodes, they just started being like, okay. Yeah, because if we really think about it, I mean, the reason why the pineapple is such a big thing is because of an improv. Yes. From James. So it's not as if he was an improv and in the beginning and all of a sudden they were just like, we trust you, do whatever, you know, have fun. Oh God, I'm sorry, hit the mic. He was doing that the entire time. So I think you're probably right. They probably, as they were feeling out, the audience and what we were willing to consume start to realize, hey, we can really go quite quite insane with some of these jokes and people will still find that. Yeah. Another thing from the bloopers that was really funny was like all the crying and running. Because some of those I don't think are even in the show at all, but it was like clearly they saw that happening and they were like, okay, and we're just going to do this over and over.
00:23:24
Speaker
so So hysterical. And I just loved there were a couple. I'm thinking of what in particular where like Sean's Sean's crying and then Gus starts crying. yeah And then James takes it to like another level. I mean, it felt so familiar, but I was like, but it's not from these episodes, right? Like, it was like they, it was just like, man, something they had in their repertoire. yeah Just having fun together. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's all about.
00:23:56
Speaker
Absolutely. And I think that is part of, we've discussed this, that is part of like the the world of the show. is that if Sean's not having fun, he doesn't want to do it at all. So true. But yeah all talk about that a lot it seems like that's also part of the production of the show itself, which I also kind of love that it really is just a it is almost art imitating life in this way, in the way that the show actually came about, which I i find so cool. Yeah. Well, and like I feel like in both contexts, like in reality and on the within the show, like
00:24:34
Speaker
It kind of shows how you can be successful while doing that, like while having that philosophy and like letting yourself enjoy things. yeah Because i mean within the show, obviously, they they always solve the crime. And then in reality, like look what they did! I know! I know. Well, and one of the things that I saw on, and I don't remember if we discussed this, maybe we did. I actually, now that I'm going to say it out loud, I feel like we did discuss this, but the pilot was like the best performing pilot ever on USA. I was like the crazy. Yeah. like yeah but Like from the jump. we um
00:25:12
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in And I wonder what the numbers look like towards the end of the the series, because I feel like for a lot of people, this was a really like seminal TV show. Yeah, like a lot of just think like they're able to still make movies. And I know people are still begging for them. They're having a site con going up like they just did it crazy. Oh, they just got to get there. Yeah, wasn't you it It's just so cool that there's still such a yeah such a fan base, such a world around and around the show itself. But I do think it, like you said, comes back to that whole idea of you can do all of these things. Again, kind of like a a touchstone of the show. You can do all these things. You can be a kid, you can have fun and live your life and still be successful. like You don't have to be one or the other.
00:26:00
Speaker
and You know what I'm thinking now? What? The podcast was born out of that same spirit. Oh my God, yeah. You're right. We have no business doing this. No, none. We were like, we just pretty much psych and talk about psych. Yeah. And why not put it somewhere if we're going to do it? But the hey, it's just for fun. Exactly. And that's good that we're having a blast. One, this is also like half of the bits that we do on here is just like we think it would be funny. ah You should do it. Why not? Like all of our names at the end of the yeah episode that we just jumbled up. Like why not? Yeah.
00:26:37
Speaker
We are carrying, we have taken the baton. We have taken the baton. I so want that as a teaser. We have taken the baton. Oh my gosh. Did you go back? Did you go back and watch the scene with um Betty and Jules and Sean and Vic in the... With the but crime. Yeah, with the crime. crime, you know that. I went back it for James's reaction. And i I loved Maggie's assessment of that, which was you were not watching Sean, you were watching James. i love that so because He was like, so like, oh like, he was so like, proud, like, oh my god.
00:27:22
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and like That's great. I feel like it says so much about the environment on that set. I hope, I know that it's not, but I would like to think that most TV shows run like that. That's how I want, in my mind, all of them to. I don't know if that's true, but it's an ideal world, for sure. I want it to be like this warm, caring environment where everyone's just having a blast and creating something cool in the process. now Yeah, I found that so funny. that And they kept it, James just being like, I bet her performance was so fantastic in that. True, yeah, I can't cut that. Yeah, no, it was so good. They also, they talked quite a bit about like the end, which I know last time I expressed some, how I wasn't totally, I'm just like not, it would always like kind of run me the wrong way, the way they come in at the end with Jules.
00:28:09
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And like, Sean takes the axe and all that. Oh, yes. Sorry. Yes, got it. Yeah, they I feel like I don't think I said this in the last episode, which I was like, I should have just said that. But I think a big part of why it bugs me is because she's like the one woman on the team. And and like the feeling is She can't control her emotions. And so me, like Sean, who has again, no business, like disarming her is going to do that. um So like I just always think of that. And they talked about on the podcast, this ah deleted scene.
00:28:43
Speaker
Hmm between Jules and Vic outside the facility after everything where Vic says like you and I don't get to mess up and I wonder if that had stayed if that whole Sequence would have worked better for me would have read differently. Yeah. Yeah, I guess it would depend on how the scene itself read because I read like a You and I as women in the force can't mess up like we have extra eyes on us because of that I feel like yeah, maybe But if it were just like we're police and Shawn and Gus are like oh Well, I think it was definitely about the women thing because oh okay cuz Shawn said or Shawn James says Straight we had straight Bechtel goodness. So of course it got cut Which
00:29:34
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um That's a reference to Alison Bechdel, payments for the Bechdel test, although I think she doesn't claim it. like it she's just Oh, really? Yeah, I think she's like, I didn't do that. but Oh, interesting. But the idea that, well, okay, so something passes the Bechdel test if it's two women talking about something that's not a man. Yeah. So yeah, I think that was what it was. That's what that scene was for. And so I feel like, yeah, that would have added a lot. because and Even like talking about Black Christmas, like we talked so much about the women's issues and that. like I yeah really would have liked to have that scene, I think. yeah It's interesting. i mean we've We've talked a little bit about how Psych, for what it is, is a very light-hearted show. even i mean They reference at one point in the podcast, like we don't even really see blood that much. you know like Yeah, it was funny to hear her say that because we said the same thing. Yeah, yeah exactly. like um yeah It's very light-hearted.
00:30:31
Speaker
And, you know, we reference how even they barely reference the fact that, like, Gus has a different experience in the world because he's a black man than Sean does, right? Like, they don't always reference that. So I wonder if it was maybe partly that, like, talking about women's issues, they weren't sure if that was like too much or, or what, but I agree, I think it would have added a lot to the sequence and to the homage to the sorority slasher, which as we discussed was like, you know, way more in depth of a concept that I think either one of us actually anticipated. yeah Yeah. I mean, that's a good point though, because like with Black Christmas, it ends so unresolved and it's so bleak and stuff. Like you really can't end this like episode like that. And, um, the, yeah, like the fact that those themes, I mean, we get like,
00:31:25
Speaker
little bits of that. like When Jules tries to make a friend yeah with a fellow woman in the department, it goes so poorly. Yes, very poorly. But we really, like you're saying, like we don't go that far. and Yeah. um And so maybe like having that scene and voicing that would have been like too heavy than they could go without ever revisiting it, ever really again. Right, right. Yeah, or even the entirety of Black Christmas is a commentary on the life that women lead and the things that we can and can't do, the people that do and do not you know protect or look out for, the systems that can do or do not look out for, right? That's the entirety of the movie where I could imagine
00:32:18
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the entirety The large majority of the episode of Psych being this like goofy murder thing, and then to throw in like one scene of women's issues. and like you know I could imagine that someone seeing that on the, quote unquote, cutting room floor and being like, yeah it doesn't really match, I suppose, with the vibe. But it is interesting because we do have like the scene right before it, which was like, I do think it would land better if we did have that context. I yeah but it's like yeah but Yeah, I think you're right. like and and And James also mentioned like the episode coming in pretty long. Right. It was funny to hear that he had like a bunch of extra scenes that he wanted to put into this, that they were like, no. That whole scary sherry horror movie. Yeah. Where you make another opportunity. Oh my god. That would be so good if they did like a, I was going to say an origin story, but there really is no origin story. It's a scary sherry because they made it up.
00:33:18
Speaker
But yeah, that would be that be awesome. in homage to the homage. at wings go me swallow it and then At one point Maggie says she screams Claude. I miss that. It's like in the beginning of the beginning of the episode. She's like, Oh my God, Claude. I didn't think we were going to see him. Oh, in real. Okay. I think that must be somebody's dog in real life. Okay. I was thinking, was it like James' dog or something?
00:33:49
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because Do you think it's named after Black Christmas? That's what I was wondering! That's crazy. I didn't even like clock that at all because I was just like thinking like, oh, she sees a pet. Is it? Is it Flash Christmas reference? I feel like probably if it was James' pet. um But I wanted to confirm with you, okay. We will call it, we will read it as a Black Christmas reference. la
00:34:14
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okay Oh, one thing. I'm just looking through my notes on on the podcast about the episode. When I think James said, Sean and Lassie have Juliet in common. Yeah. So sweet. Which I mean will become. more and more like we will see that more and more but I love that acknowledgement and like I mean just like we've been saying like all of these relationships getting to kind of crystallize in this episode and they talked about like how this episode like kind of showcases everybody and it really does yeah as much as it's a Jules episode like everybody gets some fun in here yeah well and
00:35:01
Speaker
Is season two episode one American duos? I feel like that's another kind of Jules episode. That's true. Actually, I was thinking how last season's dynamic with the female judge, whose name I don't remember, um is kind of Goochberg-y. She's like the Paula Abdul, like, sign up. Oh, you said judge? You said judge my breathing. Oh, like word judge. And I was like, judge? I know. This is not regular psych. This is American idol psych. American idol psych. But you can't wait to talk about, because that episode's so great. Yeah, it is kind of Goochberg-y. Yeah, very like adversarial.
00:35:45
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almost like we're rehashing some of what we just did. which is well initially nonre I wonder maybe we'll have to listen to the psychologist or an episode about this. yeah like i That kind of works like if you think about like we all left for hiatus and we're all coming back and we have to remember where we were. right And so it makes sense to kind of revisit it in like a different context. Yeah, have to yeah we'll have to listen to the podcast. who I know it's tough because i don't I want to listen to them, but I don't want to listen to them before we discuss the episode because then I feel like we'll be influenced by what they say, which I do not want. Yeah, we'll save it for after show too. Yeah. Okay. Oh, and they did reference the Gus as Bud joke. Yeah.
00:36:29
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which I don't know if we've got 100% clarity on the the origin of the Gus's blood joke, but it definitely didn't really say like who came up with it or something. yeah yeah It was like something they had in, you know, on the side that they were wanting to throw in somewhere. Which the whole like discussion of this episode does kind of feel like, you know, last episode, we've got all this stuff we wanted to put in, let's put it all in, which is kind of like what we're like saying is what we enjoy. yeah All of their nonsense ideas, just throw them in there. yeah But yeah, and they talked about like birthing a lot of recurring bits in this episode, yeah which we had talked about as well.
00:37:10
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Yeah. Well, and they, you know, the bits worked so well in the episode. But what I think was really nice is that even though the episode was a sorority slasher homage episode, it didn't feel as if the bits only worked because of that fact. It felt like the bits worked just because it was the world in which the bits lived. Yeah. And this is an interesting homage because it's more to a sub genre rather than like a specific thing. Like dual spires, for example. If you don't have any context, in I mean, I think you'd enjoy it, but yeah you wouldn't get as much out of
00:37:56
Speaker
of the bits which I think I the last time I watched that I think I was googling it and like there's like 700 references to Twin Peaks or something like insane yeah okay like I but from like you know textual to visual guys like just which is like wild to think about but like I mean me I have never watched Twin Peaks I have like the cultural like pop culture familiarity with it. yeah um So I'm sure a ton of it goes over my head, but like I still have fun with like like here's saying like the psychiness of it.
00:38:29
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Right. Yeah. And I think that's something that they do very well. They take whatever it is that they are looking at bidding, right? Or looking at homaging and they homage it, but in a very psych way. It's not as if they're just taking the blueprint of that thing and putting it into psych. They are really superimposing psych over that thing. That's why it works so well. Yeah.
Homage in Psych's Storytelling
00:38:52
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Yeah. Like the, all the, like there are so many silly, goofy things that happen in the dual spires episode that you're like classic psych. That would have never happened in twin weeks. Oh sure. Yeah. That just like makes sense because of the context that it's been in with this super imposition of super imposition. Sounds right to me. Okay. Of psycho over twin weeks. Sometimes conjugating words in English is very difficult. Yeah. That's a big one.
00:39:19
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Yeah, super in position. Actually, that is a good segue. If we're ready to switch gears a little bit to our Forsythe 6101 drinking game. Oh, yes. Because some thoughts I had.
00:39:35
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ah Well, okay, so this came out of the fact that like listening back to one of the episodes, Skylar edits the episodes and shares it with me and then I like listen to it. And um we said that people clock things like no less than like 20 times.
00:39:51
Speaker
I feel like that is the word. but yes i yeah but You're right, it would make for a beautiful drinking game. So that's number one, clocking. And then the other one I was thinking was if we mess up idiots idioms or common phrases. Perfect. I think that's a great one too. Because that happens all of the time. um like Speaking of language, I feel like that that super imposition moment could count. ah Oh, perfect. All right. Last time I kept saying like comedic relief. and I'm like, that's not not quite right.
00:40:24
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so those from How many do they usually have, like four? Oh, I don't know. Do we need more? than We wouldn't want it to be too crazy. Probably just take a sip at these times, not like a shot or anything. No, don't chug or anything. i know Then one day, this is what we had to do one day, one day we'd have to ask everybody else when people actually listen. Yeah. Which episode do you want us to play the drinking game to? Oh my gosh. That'd be that's amazing. Absolutely. That'd be so funny. We would just be like, all right. She clocked it. Oh my gosh. I love that idea. um Yeah. I was trying to think of things. And like the last thing I thought of was just like when we say, like oh, so cute. It's so cute. We do that a lot. And we get like, oh. Yeah. That was what I wasn't like sure how to like describe it. But yeah, let me go.
00:41:21
Speaker
Okay, so those are our three. If anybody has any other ideas, and let us know. We'll add them to the drinking game. Yeah, we'll formalize it. yes so we had some unless Do you have any? No. Someone talks something, messing up idioms or common phrases or words, I guess. Yeah. And then we say something is, well, or um when we go, it's so cute. Yeah. We could add another one in there. like Whenever we reference the psych reference, it's kind of hard. like might be hard and Like the beginning when we reference the, your, your partner name, then go right off the bat, you got one. who And then at the end, when we do a psych bit, yeah, maybe that's a good way to put it. Okay.
00:42:08
Speaker
Because then at the end, you'd have to take one at the end too, because of our Bruton gasters. Yes. Yeah, two built-in. It's like the free space. Yeah. Yes, the free space. Okay, that's a good start. And then we'll we're going to start doing like, come on, Seth. Come on, Seth. Yeah. It'll happen. Yeah, it will. As they come about. Yes, as they are solidified, we will solidify. Yes. um I did make a couple notes on the Wikifund facts. Oh, okay. From the psych wiki fun facts. I keep saying wiki fun facts, but that makes it not like it's Wikipedia. Yeah, psych, psych Wikipedia. Psych wiki that were relevant to I think things we have talked about like ah weekend warriors, which I know we had discussed like what that title meant.
00:42:54
Speaker
So I just noted that it derives from a term of disparagement originally applied to the army reserve given their limited combat training regimen, but now expanded to encompass many skills practiced only in an occasional or dilettante manner, particularly fighting disciplines. So perfect that answer. Yeah, that makes way more sense. Oh, and then so many Batman names in the malcontent app where I just did see that i that we're like, Oh, is it like, like these two were Batman, like every single name and thats from Batman. Oh, this I thought was crazy, but we'll have to go back and look at it. And forget me not, the bulletin board which from which Sean rips the poster of Mike also contains two posters created by Sean, one where he's asking for a first printing of the Green Spirit Strikes Again because he toured Gus' company in the previous episode, and one
00:43:45
Speaker
indicating he's already lost the watch Henry gave him in season one episode six weekend warriors, which was specifically inscribed don't lose, which I have never caught that before. either That's just so funny. Okay, we're a hold on poster board. um We're gonna try and find vintage gold pocket watch. Hold on, I gotta get this close. Vintage gold pocket watch. Inscription that reads, don't lose memory. Reward free psychic reading. Oh my god, that's so funny. Unwanted collector's comic, the green spirit strikes again, looking for first printing must be in near mint condition. Money no object called on at 555-0127.
Hidden References and Easter Eggs
00:44:31
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Let me send help put it in the chat. Oh my gosh.
00:44:35
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wow i have never clocked that that's so funny yeah oh clock
00:44:43
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staying a simple for european pe and floridada
00:44:47
Speaker
I'm at the end of mine. I was going to say I finished mine. Should we keep an eye on that bulletin board? Yeah. Are we going to come back to it or they're going to be more? Okay, put that on the watch list. All right, let me go. Go ahead and get on the watch list. I can't think of any Well, more I bulletin board stuff, have never clocked but that that. That's so funny. doesn't Yeah. Oh, clocked. mean it Clocked. won't be there. We shall see. Another thing from forget me not, according to the psych wiki, it says the sign is green in that episode. Okay. Is it?
00:45:15
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I don't know. Because if it is, it goes back to blue. If it is, it definitely goes back to blue. Because I trust you. I was so on top of that sign. I was like know i mean, it was like your fixation. i was very That I was very fixated with colors. The shirts. Well, you know, I i have thought about it makes sense because you're an art historian. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. That would yeah mean a lot to to my brain. All right, let me go see and forget me not if I can find it really quick. I think I really like this scone. Yeah. I'm really happy with it. Tasty. I was very skeptical of me as well. I was quite, quite concerned. Oh, hold on. Hold on.
00:46:06
Speaker
You know, that is green. Well, but check the next episode I'm telling you without a doubt, there is blue. in the next episode. They said that on the wiki, they said it stayed green for the rest of the time, which that is a bold face lie. Fighting in words, I know, but bold face lie. All right, let's see it. Hold on. Let me go. Let me just double check. Do we see the psych office again from the outside in this episode? All right, I am now in the next episode from the Earth to Starbucks.
00:46:39
Speaker
Okay, hold on, hold the phone. It looks like from one shot it is blue and from another shot it is green. Outside shot blue. That is blue. That is blue everyone. And confirm it is blue. Now it looks like when we go inside the office, hold on, hold on. It looks like from the inside it is green. So my question becomes, could it have been that the outside sequence was shot at one time Right? Cause doesn't that look kind of green from the inside? Oh yeah. I see what you mean. I wonder if the outside, the sequences were shot at one point with it blue, but then on the inside it was shot with it green. Now I'm wondering. So it's really like in flux. It seems like. And then they, by the last episode, they've got it down and we're on green. Correct. At least from the outside.
00:47:36
Speaker
Oh, wait, let's go over here. Oh, see from the inside again, it's green. Hmm. That outside shot that you had, were they out there or was it just, Oh, okay. So maybe they just used an old establishing shot. It was just like, yeah, B roll kind of a, yeah you know? Okay. Okay. It goes back and forth people. It goes back and forth. But but I, I think this is the last we will have to worry about it. I think it's going to be solidified green. Yes. Um, not that we ever like. figured out why no no would have been great we had a blooper of the window that was a fun blooper yes now we're not throwing they just kept being like you know I wonder if they like had to cut it together
00:48:25
Speaker
yeah i mean i wonder how many times they can reset that window you know or if they were just like go through the whole scene and we'll just cut together that's a good question because they did go through the end like even if like as soon as it broke they were like they did the rest of it right so like maybe they just never reset it yeah oh what's a great time to make it green. Solidify the window changing, but you know what's interesting? I wonder if they did, because in that scene with the window breaking, you can see from the inside out that the sign was blue. So I wonder if like on the set, they then made it green. Yeah. yeah But like you said, different shots. Yeah.
00:49:07
Speaker
Exactly. That's what I, I bet you're probably right with that. Wow. Well, I mean, that may be our biggest mystery of season one. And we've come to... Who threw the rock? Okay. Well, we never are going to get that solved, but that will be in our offshine just for ourselves. We might have to listen to that psychologist episode and see if anybody talks about it. I really wonder I need to know who threw the rock. Actual ghosts. I mean, we have, we've also established that this is a truly like, fantasy show, Sean is a witch, Henry's a witch. So ghosts are throwing rocks and that's just the way it is. It just, it happens. Okay, one other thing I wanted to bring up, total non sequitur, but um just something is. Were you a Disney channel kid? Um, I watched, I dabbled in the Disney channel.
00:50:00
Speaker
You know, I knew of the um the Hannah Montana um and the That's So Raven. Classics. Did I know of any others? That's a good question. Was Kim possible, Disney Channel? Yeah, it was. I loved Kim Possible. My text tone on my phone is the boop, boop, boop. Yeah, sort yeah I know, I know of the Disney Channel. Yes. Okay. Well, I bring it up because i I distinctly remember when this show was going to come out. I think at that time I was already like, and my family were already like monk people. I think monk was around. Yeah. So like we were like USA.
00:50:39
Speaker
fans. We watched USA. So like, you know, started from the beginning with the commercials for cycling. We sat down and watched the pilot. And I remember recognizing both Lassie and Jules from DCOMS, which for those not in the know, that's a Disney Channel original movie. Oh, I've not. Yeah, no.
00:51:01
Speaker
I'm using any. now Okay, well, they're from two different ones. Although I will say I don't think because I know I've never seen. Oh, there's a there's a whole canon of D comms. No. um You probably know some of them high school musical. oh Okay, sure. Yes. Cheetah girls. Okay, yeah. um There's lots and lots. um But that's where mermaid one came from the 13th year. Yes. I love that you could pull that out of the thing.
00:51:31
Speaker
Yeah, I was raised by a Disney channel. Well, I was definitely a Disney channel kid. like yeah My partner was like more of a Nickelodeon kid. yeah yeah I did not watch a lot of Nickelodeon. Oh, okay. But ah Tim Theo Munson was the bad leprechaun in The Luck of the Irish, and I do think we're going to have to watch these at some point. That sounds so familiar, The Luck of the Irish. Have I seen that? Hold on. I don't know how we should approach this if it's like we should get through the whole show and then just do a series with like gravy and the luck of the Irish and like any other random like thing that we decide we need to watch. I think. Or do we want to do it sooner? I was gonna say, could we do like, I mean, we're done with season one.
00:52:16
Speaker
So we could have like bonus episodes. That's true. We could do like a ah movie bonus and we could do like James' favorite movies, discuss. hu Movies that Timothy was in, movies that Maggie was in, discuss. h Or yeah, something else. Well, yeah, we just gotta be mindful of like how much time we have to watch watch all these movies. Um, and but I was thinking like, so ah say we did like a, maybe not even like a full episode, but like some sort of episode on the luck of the average, we could like do a special St. Patrick's day ah release or something like that. oh you got some time Yeah, that's a good idea.
00:52:56
Speaker
Okay, so maybe we'll just keep that in mind. Oh, maybe we're on Halloween. We could watch gravy if we feel like perfect. I like that. Yeah. as you yeah buts Okay. So he was in luck at the irish lot of the Irish. Okay. And then Maggie Lawson was in, which I think it's actually not technically a decon because I occasionally go through moments where I'm like, I'm going to revisit some classic decoms. And um hers was really hard to find. So I think technically it's like a different production company. But anyway, it's model behavior. And she plays, it's almost kind of like parent trappy. She plays two roles and it's about a model and like a regular girl who switched places.
00:53:34
Speaker
oh cute uh super cute yeah so i just remember like being like as a kid being like i know i think it's so funny that like both of them yeah these movies i feel like kerson and nelson may have some some disney background too might she let's see disney channel uh she was in a boy meets world oh there you go oh she wasn't stuck in the suburbs that's one of my favorite dcoms I love that they, they have been in your life for so long. Yeah. ah They have really been your childhood and your teenage hood. They all came together in this show. Yeah. Was I, was Dulay Hill in any? Cause I mean, I feel like Dulay is a good question. when does my key things Yeah.
00:54:32
Speaker
And he can dance and sing. like I feel like that is Disney's bread and butter. I don't see it. Nothing's popping up. A lot of stuff about the wonder years is popping up, which... He's in the remake. Yeah, which is now. correct And sidebar on that and the side quickie it didn't mention. And I think on the podcast they mentioned it too. And the poker one, the dad yeah is the original wonder year's dad. And then Dule is the dad and the remake. So that's fun. But wonder years is ABC. So like same parent, same parent company. Yeah. Well, and Dule Hill, when he was younger, I mean, he was in the West Wing for a year. Oh yeah. So I wonder if that was, you know, obviously taking priority. That's true. He was busy doing that. Oh my gosh. And that was a great show and he was awesome in that show. so Yeah.
00:55:25
Speaker
she would do a We watched the whole West Wing. Well we gotta watch all of Twin Peaks first. I know. That seems a little more reasonable. watchinging twin peaks Not as long. What is it? Three seasons? I think so. But it will be an interesting one. Will we do one episode on all of Twin Peaks? we could when we discuss the Dual Spires episode. I mean, we could. Yeah, we might have to break it up. I was gonna say this last time. Yeah, it was very long. Wow. 40 episodes. 30 episodes. Oh, I changed. 30 episodes. Yeah, 30 episodes. Yeah, two seasons. Okay. Right, so that's not bad. Yeah, so I just want to
00:56:11
Speaker
to mention the Disney connection. Yeah, that's wild. Someday we can do a little D-com marathon. What channel? Yeah, we should. What channel was A Million Little Things on? Because James, you're a day. I was thinking that. I think it is ABC. Oh my gosh. Everything comes back to Disney corporations. Yeah. i don't Okay. Yeah. Cause do they have the wonder years? Yes. Everybody's covered. There you go. Oh, wait, Corbin, Corbin on something. He's our last big one. He also like has been around. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in a DCOM or something. I'm just Googling like each of their names in Disney channel. Oh, he's on LA law. Who made that? That was like his big, oh, that was NBC.
00:57:02
Speaker
He appeared as a guest star in Switch to Earth. That works. Wow. Crazy. Yeah. So they were all connected to the the Disney corporation in some way. Maybe one day Disney will sponsor one of their movies. Who knows? Yeah. And I do love that. It's like specifically these Disney channel original movies. Yeah. they were And they were a big part of my childhood. Yeah. Disney Channel, you know, especially when I feel like especially when we were kids, Disney Channel was so like, you know, yeah, we grew up at the we were kids slash early teenagers before portable cell phones for like a thing, especially smartphones, like smartphones were around. So if we sat down to watch
00:57:46
Speaker
TV. I mean, that was what we were doing. We were watching, yeah, Disney or Nick, like those were CNN, up CNN, Cartoon Network, CNN. I was watching Disney Channel Skylar, I was watching CNN.
00:58:05
Speaker
Absolutely not. Kurt, the cowardly dog, freaked me out. Me too. Okay, actually what I said, my partner's like a Nick guy. He's also very into Cartoon Network. And I'm like, yeah, it was like too edgy for me. There were certain shows that I really liked on Cartoon Network. Like I really liked Powerpuff Girls. I really liked Ed Edd and Eddie. I, you know, my bathroom pass is Plank from Ed Edd and Eddie. Oh my god, that's so funny. I wasn't allowed to watch Ed, Ed, and Eddy. Well, that's fair. There's like a lot of ways. Because they also didn't like me watching Spongebob, but it was like mainly because his voice was annoying. Oh, that's fair. My parents didn't like me watching Rugrats because my mom thought Angelica was a bad example. I was like, okay. Yeah. I mean, that takes us back to, you know, a big philosophical question we've been having. Can we deal with complex characters like Angelica?
00:59:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's a good question. Well, you know, I think is i think now as adults, yes. I wonder if as children, yeah. Because it's kind of hard to, you know, as a kid, it's difficult to rationalize, ah I guess, depending upon where you are in your childhood, right? If you're a middle schooler, sure, you can rationalize. Angelica maybe we just had a bad day and doesn't want to be dealing with her, you know, cousin. But as like a, you know, five, six-year-old, maybe you are just saying, oh, yeah, she's mean. Or, oh, yeah. But if you can recognize she's me, and then maybe that's enough. Yeah, I don't know. And also, I wonder, again, like we talk about with Sean, like the show doesn't right like agree with everything Sean does. Right. So it's like you have, you see some consequences, you see other people reacting certain ways. And so if you're watching like a kid's show and you see that stuff,
00:59:54
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah, Arthur, I feel like I don't have as much of a deep recollection of the Rugrats as because they did watch parts of it, you know, mostly when I went to like my grandma's house. But I don't think I have like I don't know, did that happen in the Rugrats? Did they? Yeah, I don't remember either. Maybe that's another thing we have to watch. All right, Rugrats, here we come. Next podcast will be on childhood entertainment. Oh my god. maybe Could you imagine if we just watched Disney and Nickelodeon shows? I man would love that. That is a... something we must ponder. um Well, maybe in our DCOM marathon episode, we could each pick like one other thing um just to add to it for fun. We should pick like yeah one of our childhood must watches and then we can share it with each other. and we can just I like like this idea. ah we i mean We watched a lot of
01:00:52
Speaker
I don't know if we watched a lot of TV, but TV was like the media that we consumed because there wasn't really and anything else unless you watched like on TikTok or whatever. movie No, no. Yeah. We just didn't have access. there didn't even have not exist Yeah. Oh, no, no. I literally remember I was in like the end, it was either the end of middle school, beginning of high school. I literally remember going with my friend, typing in YouTube. And we first typed in the letter U T-U-B-E because we just didn't know. And then we were like, oh, maybe Y-O-U too. Aww. Cause it was like so new. So yeah, they're, they're very formative Disney channel and Nickelodeon for us.
01:01:34
Speaker
who And it was too like a very, you were either a Disney kid or like a Nick kid. Like you kind of had to pick a song. Like you had like a, like Disney forward, Nick forward. Yeah. Cause I watch other stuff, but like Disney was like what I was into. You're a jam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. And so, I mean, I remember like seeing these people from these movies on this new show and I was like, Well, of course. I'm going to watch that. Makes sense. Little did you know it was going to- Look at us now. I know. Lead to this. It is interesting. Like it would be such a, I don't know, like when you are an actor and like, I guess you hope that you get something iconic like this. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and Tim was saying on the show, I don't remember who he mentioned, but
01:02:24
Speaker
that there were some writers that like constantly were bringing him back to stuff and writing yeah characters for him. And that's like something that you know you really hope for, people that can like champion you as an actor. Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of like misunderstanding about that profession and and just like the arts in general that they're like freelancers basically and like don't have like guaranteed work. And like you think of them as like celebrities and they're on TV and stuff but it's like a very, but it can be like a very tumultuous path.
01:02:58
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, sure. like Yeah. Very up and down of like, are are you making money or are you not making money? Yeah. And having nothing to necessarily do with talent, just yeah what break do you kind of get? no but yeah like that That story that he told is so beautiful. Like the idea that, like that's what you want to hear is that like people lift as they rise. Yeah, and I feel like that's really what Psych did throughout the entirety of yeah of the show. Like we were saying before, Steve Franks. Yeah, the same thing, totally. yeah like Like James was saying, he had never written anything before.
Collaborative Environment and New Talents in Psych
01:03:33
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And like for Steve Franks to say like like to bring him into the fold,
01:03:38
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And then for James to jump on it, like that's a not an opportunity that everybody gets. Yeah, get and imagine what the entertainment industry would look like if there was more of that. There was more of just like Come on, give it a try. Cause I feel like that, you know, as we were saying before with Steve Franks, like he had never done this before, but he created this like wildly interesting, like complex show and managed to help James Roday start like his career in directing and stuff like that. And like a a bunch of other things in the process, you know, what would the industry look like if we got maybe some voices that aren't as, as heard yeah or as supported out there?
01:04:25
Speaker
I do you think you you do like you can see that and also like it may be there but like maybe you wouldn't know but I i don't know I could I'm just thinking like the arts and like entertainment or like acting and writing and stuff it's so I think the people who do those things tend to be very like collaborative because performance is so collaborative so like but I'm sure there are people who are are not so welcoming or more like TV. Yeah, I feel like it's like that in any profession though. Yeah, true. I'm all done with my pina colada, I'm very sad. No, me too. I keep, I don't want to like, I mean, I have a little bit of the foamy bits, but I don't want to be like slurping. I slurping, yeah.
01:05:15
Speaker
So nice though. I know it's really tasty. I should have made more. Should have brought like a little picture. Fill it up as we went. Now we go for next time. Yes. We will be a little more prepared beverage wise for next time. I know we're going to be like the boys and just constantly have snacks. Yeah. like a little well there are like On our little episode list, there's just a couple. like like The main ones were like the Mira episode. They're at a winery, so like we'll have to have a glass of wine. Yes, have to. 65 million years off. Oh, that one's coming up. Yeah, that one's soon. We're going to have to have some peaches in a couple of weeks, because maybe we'll just have to have peaches. Some really good like farmer's market peaches. Yeah. yeah
01:06:03
Speaker
Oh, and then in the pickup artist type one, the Gabardin Hytale. Oh, yeah. Oh my gosh. I forgot about that episode. That's a great episode. Yeah. But feel like that is an episode that I think of. It it has like an earlier, or like an early psych vibe, but it's much later than I remember. It always like surprises me when I watch it how much later it is. Yeah. When I wonder too, because we say this a lot, like how for us it's kind of difficult to discern where some of the episodes are at times. I wonder if people who haven't watched it as many times as us have that same issue or if it's just that we like watch it in such constant rotation that like it's kind of difficult to see where the beginning and the end is. Yeah, that's true.
01:06:54
Speaker
But i I agree with you. It's a very, you know, Sean is a little extra flirty in that one. Oh, we yeah yeah, that's true. Very reminiscent of early Sean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And just like the side characters are like kind of quirky. I don't know. Yeah. And maybe like episodes where the case feels really important are like like feel earlier. Hmm. Even though like we have been focusing a lot on the serial nature, but like as far as what sticks. Yeah. like I remember that, but it's not as like tied to the case. Sometimes it's like yeah but disjointed in my head. Yeah. well and and We were saying that with, which one was it? It's like two or three episodes back. We were saying, oh, the tennis one. Yeah. like We remember the case, but like not actually whatever else was going on.
01:07:41
Speaker
Yeah, and it was like, oh we weren't as like, as excited about the case. So it was kind of like that episode. We were like weren't going into that episode like, Oh, this is a great one. But then yeah all this stuff that we like didn't yeah realize was in that episode. We're like, Oh, this is a great one. This is a great one. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see when we get there kind of where it where it falls. We've kind of bunched that up like really excited to watch and discuss together. Oh my gosh. There's so many good ones. All right. Let's discuss are which one we're most excited about to watch together in the next season. In the next season? Okay. Yeah. This might take us a moment to to go look at.
01:08:20
Speaker
So of course I'm excited about Bounty Hunters because how could one not be excited about Bounty Hunters? I'm also hysterically excited for Black and Tana Crime of Fashion. That was one of the ones. Yes. That's such a good one. I love that episode. That episode is so good and dislodged. I think that's a good one too. That fun one. I also love 65 million years off. Do you know when I think about psych Like if someone were to tell me, explain an episode of Psych, I feel like that is one of the ones that pops into my head first. It is really another like mean very iconic yes episode. Yes. In a more subtle way, because it's yeah not really an homage to anything. Like that is a Psych episode. Yeah, it is. And i like I feel like it's fun in that I don't... Up until that point, we haven't really seen... Like that's the first time we see like them really skeptical of shots.
01:09:16
Speaker
Yeah. Since he's like established himself. Pulls out, you know, a T-Rex. Yeah. You know, definitely a yeah reason to be skeptical. But yeah, it is him now having to like reprove himself. Yeah. Yeah. Which we we revisit that kind of theme like a lot, but that's like the first time you really see it. Yeah. Or at least everyone, everyone feeling that way instead of just laughing. Yeah. Oh, I was thinking and down the stretch comes more. Oh no. Okay. st it like that's and down the stretch comes murder that's the horse race one nine yeah that's a good one too where's the what the stunt people one i feel like that one is i want to say it's like maybe season three or daredevil daredevils yep season three episode three okay
01:10:03
Speaker
I like that one, but we'll talk about it later.
01:10:09
Speaker
Just i because I brought it up. but That last scene, like the resolution of that case where he figures out, that's probably the most heart-wrenching scene in all of Psych to me. you know So yeah, Gus's dad may have killed him. Oh my god. It's gonna be a Christmas episode. Yeah, that's a good one. I like that one. Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe Lacking Tan is number one. That is just like, again, talk about like camp and humor and stuff. And like a Henry of it all is so fun. like So much just fun stuff. Yeah, just so fun. And like I love like gus being the cool one for a change. Oh my gosh. And that we're gonna have to really dive into. Yeah. Because that's really quite the switch up for the two. Yeah.
Season One Murder Count Revelation
01:11:02
Speaker
And I'm in the model house. So like so funny.
01:11:06
Speaker
Well, I know we have one thing left to do. We just tell you the final murder count for season one. We didn't mention it in every episode ah sometimes. We tried our best, you know. So there were 15 episodes in season one and we in fact had a lot of episodes where people didn't die. which Yeah, I love how in the beginning we were like, do we have any episodes? Well, they said that in poker. They were like, is this the first episode where no one's died? and we like one's know no But our final murder count for the season is, in fact, 17, so more murders than episodes. I am really looking forward ah to the point where we finished this eight seasons and we have the total murder count. Yeah, it's going to be wild. Because some of them get a little very murdery. Yeah. yeah
01:12:00
Speaker
We got a lot a lot of cases to solve too. I mean, that's yeah. Yeah, definitely. If you haven't checked out our Instagram, I'm very excited to post the complete season one court board. I can't wait for this for the after show. It looks so cool. By the time. Well, it may be up if you're listening to this, maybe not.
Upcoming Episode on American Duos
01:12:19
Speaker
Maybe a couple days. ah Yeah, and our next episode will be American Duos. mayor We did talk about we're going to watch the just episode one of American Idol, I think, which I looked into it. Seems like it's really hard to find old episodes of American Idol, actually. Really? That's interesting. Yeah, and what I saw on Reddit was that they think it has to do with like music rights.
01:12:45
Speaker
Oh, interesting. like Music law has changed, so now they can't. Yeah, like maybe like any song that somebody sings, they have to pay rights for it. So something I saw when I was looking into this was that they made like American Idol Rewind, which I feel like I remember. And so they just like made their own like ah show about old episodes. They don't have to air old episodes. um But I did find it is on YouTube in seven parts. All right the user Cherokee Dawn has posted it so if you want to watch season one episode one of American Idol just to like jog your memory because I'm sure you lived it that's what we're gonna do and then we're gonna watch American Duos.
01:13:29
Speaker
Yeah. And who knows in between now and then we might have some other little bonus things for you. So take one. We're flying by the seat of our pants. You know, we're just having fun.
Closing Remarks and Credits
01:13:41
Speaker
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