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S2E2: "O" Marks the Spot
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Series spoilers abound! We’re discussing Season 2, Episode 2 “65 Million Years Off”. Our fake psychic detectives are being one upped by Lassie and haven’t had a case in weeks! The only way to make it back into the chief’s good graces? Solve a preposterous crime of course! We’re talking dinos, peaches, feelings, and so much more. So, grab your business partner (keep them alive this time!) and joining Kylie and Skyler for episode 20 of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction to Cyc6 101 and Psych Season 2, Episode 2
00:00:20
Speaker
All right. Hello everyone. And welcome to the Cyc6 101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psych and the antics of Shawn and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar. And this is my partner, Denny Dino. And today we'll be talking about season two, episode two of the famed TV show, Psych. Hello. Hello. 65 million years off. We were both very excited for this episode. And I am still just as excited after watching it. It's so good. So good.
00:00:49
Speaker
We're also drinking our peach felinis, which we almost forgot about. I know. We're just really not very good at remembering foods and things. Yeah, just remembering things. We're not, yeah, it's true. It's like a brand new show every every time. You know, that's nice. Yeah.
Peaches and Prosecco: Comedic Mishaps
00:01:06
Speaker
Yeah, so peaches play a big role in the, I mean, not, not a big role, but they play a role in the episode. They're just like, air they kind of are the pineapple of this episode. Yeah. You know, I didn't even notice the pineapple in this episode. I'm sure it's there, but I did not notice it because we had peaches instead. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they really love their peaches. Yes. The OI peaches. I mean, every everyone, they've got each got to be like 100, including the one you're eating. I know.
00:01:35
Speaker
They said that and I was like, you know, there was maybe three crates in front of them. And the one that the guy was holding, what if he had like an entire truckload in the back? Were they just gonna buy? That's a lot of peaches. This is where they can't save money. They just wasted our food. At least it's on sustenance. Yeah.
00:01:54
Speaker
And I'm sure they will eat them all. Oh, I'm sure. Probably eat half of them on their way there and half of them on their way there. That's a lot of fiber, I worry, for their existence.
00:02:05
Speaker
um Yeah, I realized when making this drink, I don't think I've ever opened a bottle of Prosecco before. Oh my god, me either. I almost screamed. I texted my mom today. I was like,
00:02:17
Speaker
I don't think I've done this before. like What am I supposed to do? I was so scared if he's like, just put your palm on it and twist it. Am I going to blow my hand off? it's like That seems like what's going to happen.
00:02:28
Speaker
It's a lot of like compressed pressure, yeah. Yeah, and then it was like really hard. Oh my god, is it supposed to be this hard? And and so I was like googling it and I watched like a TikTok from Bon Appetit. Oh my gosh. And yeah, so I ended up with two rags like on either end. I just finally got it off. Oh, good. yeah And it was like shocking when it happened. It's so loud, right? Yeah. Like I was not anticipating it being like, literally sounded like a gunshot. I was like, gah! Yeah. as The cat jumped. It was a whole thing. man It was intense. um that Yeah, that happened. I also, my blender, well, I guess if you were to blend like a bunch of stuff, that probably helps. I only blended one peach because I'm like, I'm the only one drinking this.
00:03:15
Speaker
and that is just not a good volume for blending. that So I'm basically having like champagne with a floater of peach chunks.
00:03:29
Speaker
Did you put any water in with it? I didn't have water down, so I ended up splashing champagne in there. Oh, okay. So it would help, but I think my blender was also just not fit up. pure and i wondernder The recipe I was looking at suggested like or mentioned something about Frozen. like oh That would have probably gone better.
00:03:47
Speaker
um Also, I get like a a CSA box of light from a farm and it came today and I was like, I think there's so many peaches in it. So I didn't buy peaches. so I got their peaches, but they were like the white peaches. oh yeah you know A little more of a delicate floral yes flavor. So they're also like not that juicy. So I think that was part of it. So basically it's just, you know, it's probably not the best Polini out there, but yeah, it'll do the job. Yeah, it'll do the job.
00:04:17
Speaker
I was your experience. so Popping the pressure first for fresh percentage ah Prosecco, which is quite a statement to say. I agree. Kind of a terrifying experience, especially because I had like the wire over it. So I was like, oh, if I twist the wire, like is the wire going to be the thing that makes it pop? So that was scaring me.
00:04:37
Speaker
and And then that didn't do anything. Did you take it all the way off? i took it Yeah, all the way off. And then I did. I put my palm on top of it because I was like, is this going to shoot? And then it ricocheted out of my hand. I was like, ah. But I got it. Nothing spilled anywhere. That was good. The cat was a little freaked. but He popped down. On the TikTok I watched, apparently the cage thing is like a safety thing. So like they kept it wrong. They like i loosened it a bit and then kept it on. So I put a pencil on.
00:05:07
Speaker
and had my bags go in and then, I don't know. I feel like there needs to be some instructions on this bottle. Yeah, right? People just open champagne. I'm like, who who teaches you? I know. Who knows this stuff? Just off the top of their head, not us. But then i so i went when I went to the store, I was like, oh, do I get frozen peaches? Do I get just peaches? do i look for like peach Is there like peach concentrate? I was like, I don't know. I just ended up getting peaches and I have a juicer. So I like juice the peaches and then I took some of the pulp and just like threw it in there. That's nice. All right. Little chunky, little, you know, peachy. It's pretty good. Yours is an appetizing color. It's like a yellow or mine's like white.
00:05:54
Speaker
and you Can you see the layer of peach? It's like chewing and eating peaches. You hear little bits of chomping. It's the bits of peaches.
Peaches in the Plot: Linking Key Moments
00:06:04
Speaker
Maybe by the after show we should we should try again and do a better job. Because this really came together at the very last minute also because we were not prepared.
00:06:15
Speaker
Yeah, we could do that. Something to keep in mind. Yeah. And maybe we put like a, you know, you said you followed a recipe, but I just went, all right, some peach. Okay. like I just want to make sure there's like nothing else. Yeah, they've literally been missing. When I, when I was looking at recipes, like I think what you were going to mention, like I saw most of them seemed to have other fruit in there. like One was raspberries, one was strawberries, I don't know about that. i mean and I was like, well maybe to bring out the sweetness, but I feel like if you had like a really good, juicy peach, you wouldn't need anything else. yeah I feel like this is pretty. yeah ah To be fair, I put a lot of peach. but like I think I juiced like four peaches. Nice. Well, the recipe I looked at, it was more than I expected. It said like two ounces and then topped with Prosecco.
00:06:59
Speaker
two ounces of the puree, which I feel like quite a bit. That's quite a shot of it.
00:07:09
Speaker
as Kylie choose her beverage.
00:07:14
Speaker
but's so we Like we said, we went with Peach Bellinis because um Peaches are are part of this episode. They're actually something that brings Shawn and Gus to kind of like the pivotal moment yeah of these 65 million years off where that title even comes from. so Another good title. I wasn't really thinking about it, but I love, I just love this episode. I was thinking, and I know we've talked a lot about Sean and like if he's quote unquote likable and things like that. yeah I was just thinking watching this episode, how much I love to see Sean win. I agree. Like they do such a great job. I feel like this is kind of the the first time we see him really like struggling.
00:07:57
Speaker
You've been coming into the episode, Lassie's on a streak, which I feel like it's the first time you've really seen him like hot and actually doing his job effectively. Yeah, doing his job very well. yeah and then Yeah, it felt like there were a lot of firsts. I mean, maybe just those two main ones. Okay, so like the Lassie streak and then like Sean, the like kind of clamoring for a case. Like we haven't really seen that. I mean, in the, in that he needs one. Yes. Like we've seen him kind of want one, I feel like or want more interesting things like that. but But this he's like, it's like they don't even need him anymore. Yeah, this is definitely the first foray into them like pleading for cases, yeah yeah which we get that a lot later
Shawn and Gus: Dynamics and Diversification
00:08:38
Speaker
on. I mean, the entire last season is essentially them pleading for cases.
00:08:42
Speaker
so it was kind of fun seeing it for the first time but with the like the tropes of the earlier seasons I thought was kind of nice to see like Gus really not buying into like do we actually need a case right now like I gotta to go to work and Sean's like no he's essentially like I'm bored to do yeah yeah well and at this point they have invested quite a bit into psych yeah oh my gosh yeah I mean they've got their office space and stuff and so it is kind of weird to be in a
00:09:13
Speaker
place where it kind of seems like they don't need them anymore which is like odd and obviously you know it's tv it's all constructed but like to think about like them being necessary for like the first season like kind of what they were missing at the department and then now it's like i maybe i guess more run-of-the-mill cases and then one falls into their lap that's just so outlandish so outlandish so impossibly outlandish yeah and i think too Like, it's kind of fun, you know, we've been talking a lot about, and I guess we haven't really seen this in this episode yet, but we're going to start to see, I'll cue you in, sorry, it'd be my brain, you know. It's interesting because this has happened essentially because they have yet to diversify.
00:09:58
Speaker
Really? They do like a little one-off things here and there of like, oh, we'll do a seance or we'll do whatever. Yeah. Well, they kind of meet the moment where it's like, oh, you need to communicate with a dead person? Sure. We do that. Correct. Right. But even that, it's like attached to the police department case, where in the later seasons, we'll start to see people come into the office more, looking for them to do a job outside of the police department, which is kind of nice.
00:10:25
Speaker
and But yeah, because they haven't diversified yet, like it's kind of funny to see them just to just imagine Sean like sitting around waiting and yeah coming up for he doesn't have anything else to do. Yeah, must be so bored. Poor little puppy. Yeah, and cusses at work. And I know who busy and that one line of like, when are you gonna quit your side gig? And like, this is my side gig. Like, what are you talking about? It's just like complete like, good I mean,
00:10:55
Speaker
Just so self centered in a way. Oh my gosh. Yeah. He's obviously the center of Gus's universe. Obviously. This is the main event. Yes. Could not ever be anything else. Yeah. So this is, I mean, this is a great episode. I feel like for so many different reasons. Yeah. It plays into that like outlandish nature of, of psych where we're, you know, mummies and werewolves. I was thinking, I mean, kind of cyber, but this is a great, or the mummy episode is such a sister episode to this. Yeah! It feels very Kindred. Kindred? Sure. Kindred. And it even has the link of like being in the museum and seeing the dino discovery, which yeah I just love. Oh my gosh. And i yeah, that whole little mini scene in that episode with Sean like doing the smolders. It's like, I can't. It's just so funny.
00:11:52
Speaker
but It's got, you know, the episode's got like all of our good psychisms too. I feel like this, you know, you really feel very situated in psych. Yeah. So, you know, we're talking about how in episode one, it felt like, okay, we're kind of catching everyone back up to like where we left off. This feels like, okay, we're here. Yeah, totally. In season two. Yeah. So that's kind of fun to see them all like play and and do their thing. Yeah. And it's such a great Just like character episode for Sean I feel because I'm our flashback is really fun Yeah, I love this flashback.
Shawn's Triumphs and Dino-Themed Plot
00:12:24
Speaker
We have Gus we're with Gus which isn't typical I feel oh No, we haven't had one yet. Yeah. Yeah, so we are entering the school with him and he's been from his perspective in a giant dinosaur dinosaur head Dino and dinosaur at the same time time so
00:12:45
Speaker
Yeah, to scale, you put a ton of effort into it and then... Three months. Yeah, charmed little Sean, spent an hour taping... I wrote that down too. He lives such a charmed life. Yeah, which I think is such a great place to start because then it's like it's not working out for him in the present. And then by the end, it's like, we're back, baby. We're back. Sean's little... We did it. And the only thing really going around wrong at the end is that people aren't letting him have his...
00:13:15
Speaker
his moment. And I love that too, because that is also kind of typical of some other episodes in the series where like, people will accidentally solve it and he's like, Gus! Yeah, we get a lot of games in this episode that are just like really fun. Yeah. And come back. Yes, yes, I love it. Yeah, so we kind of know from the from the jump that this is going to be some form of like, dino-y, you know, kind of episode, but we don't really know how. And we get into the police station present day and we see Laster staring down a suspect, all serious-like, and he manages to get the suspect to confess in literally one word, which I didn't even catch what the word was, but just to get the guy to confess.
00:14:06
Speaker
And we see everyone clapping. We find out that Lasseter has solved nine cases in the in a row, the last two of which he's gotten the first suspect to confess, which what a hot streak. Yeah. And knowing Lasseter, especially impressive. Yeah. And he's got to be so chuffed with himself. like He's got to be so yeah proud. I do feel like this is good to see, though, because we do have to, to an extent, buy that Carlton is good at his job, just like in general, I feel like. Yeah. we don't off like we see him wrong a lot. So, and we've also seen him really doubt himself in last season. And so it is nice to be reminded that like he is qualified for the role he's in. Yeah. um I mean, I think it's kind of nice too, just to see
00:14:54
Speaker
like this show I think the show plays on a very fine line of like making fun of the police and also being on the side of the police.
Police Dynamics and Teamwork Developments
00:15:04
Speaker
yeah you know Because like it at one point it can be if you fall in the line of Sean, the police can do no right. They can't solve any cases. They have no idea what they're doing. You need to call on a psychic every chance you get. right Or it can be, okay, they're actually pretty good at their job and they know when to call in external help in order to solve the particular case. And I think this episode solidifies a little bit more exactly where that line is of, okay.
00:15:32
Speaker
they actually do a really good job. Carlton and Jules actually know what they're doing. Vic is a very good, you know, chief in charge of of things. But sometimes we just can't solve things without a psychic, you know, like, yeah, Lassie says at the end, I'm never going to be able to, to, yeah without Sean specifically, like, yes, which I feel like Vic What's great about her is that, like Sean, I feel, she she doesn't get caught up in like the the politics so much, or she's not competitive in that way. like Maybe she's a little chuffed that like her department is actually doing well without outside help. But like when it comes time for Sean to be right, she's like, like no question. Or like when he calls him out to OI, she's like, OK, well, let's go check that out. Which is one of my favorite um which we can get into later. but um But I do love that about her.
00:16:24
Speaker
um and I do think and using this show like does pretty well living in like the gray area. yeah We also see more later like a lot of corruption yes in the department and in the city government and stuff like that. so which i think is necessary especially if you were to produce like such a show today i feel like any show would be remiss to to leave out all of the corruption that can show up in a police department or in any office of power but you know this was created in the late 2000s so i don't know if necessarily they were making some of that same commentary but nevertheless they did discuss corruption and things like that yeah know um yeah so we find out tools
00:17:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Sean talks to Jules. Sean's all sad. All sad looking. Yeah, he's trying to get, um, things. And I do like Jules. It's like also a bit chuffed, but like, she is so proud of Lassie. Yeah. she' is so proud of just like She's unconditional. I feel about her, her love. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, unconditional survival. I'm thinking of her brother where like she really has to face that like a real disappointment. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:17:41
Speaker
Yeah, so I feel like that's not the right word. But in terms of like, she doesn't have a lot of hang ups about things. Like she's like genuinely excited for last year when Sean allegedly cracks the the code to get into the garage. She's like all excited about that. Like she just, yeah, she's just it's very pure. Yeah.
00:18:01
Speaker
Yeah, she's such a sweetie. like She just is. And I think she's a great foil to Lasseter. Because he's so, and we've talked about this before, but he's just so like hard nosed sometimes, and so rough, and and so like difficult to read. And Jules is just like, carefree, just happy for everyone. and you know Yeah, and I feel like we haven't really, I'm trying to think, like this is kind of maybe the first time they're, like we really are seeing them kind of be buds.
00:18:29
Speaker
Yeah, because they haven't really settled into their rapport. And they've struggled with that. And yeah now it's like they're on the same team. They like how they're really having fun together. They hug at the end. They hug. Oh, it's so sweet. So sweet. And it's such the way it comes about is so great too, because she's like, do you want to hug? And she's like,
00:18:52
Speaker
Come on, or whatever, and then it's like, okay. Okay, fine. She's so begrudging, but yeah, she wants a hug. There's such a cutie, guys. Yeah, so Jules is really happy that Lassie's been doing so well, and she's like, Sean, we just, we haven't needed you around here. Like, you know, we need you, we'll call you, but we haven't really needed you.
Marina Investigation and T-Rex Antics
00:19:11
Speaker
Lassie's on fire. Literally on fire. and And Sean's like, what do you mean literally on fire? Like, actually literally on fire, and Michael Jackson on fire. Like, what are we talking here? Did you just misuse the word literally? Yes, Sean, semantics. That comes back later.
00:19:28
Speaker
and ex the garage Yeah, right. Or they're somewhere. Oh, they're all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah liter plasters on fire literally early but me And yeah, and Lassie comes over and he's been saying like, Oh, Spencer, like, what are you doing here? We haven't really needed you in it.
00:19:47
Speaker
he scos himself Oh, he's so proud. of I feel like even how he's like, dressed how he's holding himself like he looks really like official his hair is all done nice like he just seems like he's you know in his groove. Yeah, I love to see. And Sean is so sad. He's lost all of his quip. He has no No back talking. Yeah, you can't even have a comeback. I know, it's so sad and then... When in Vietnam, say, like, did you get that soup from a toilet store? Yeah, it's so big for fosters. After everyone has left, he's just talking to himself. But so I guess cheer him up.
00:20:24
Speaker
Lassie, I don't even know to cheer him up, but just to show him how real cop does it, if you will, he, yeah, invite go to give him a lesson yeah he invites Sean down to the marina where a body has washed up with a bunch of puncture holes in it. And we're going to try and go and see if we can figure it out if Lassie can make nine, 10. Mm hmm.
00:20:46
Speaker
Okay, before we jump into that, there is one other line I wrote down from that scene in the film station that I loved. McNabb was like, Hey Sean, you still doing that psychic thing? it Just such a low blow. Such a low blow and such a McNabb thing. I feel like he yeah just yeah didn't mean anything. that didn't mean anything by it You know, it hit Sean so hard. Yeah. You still doing that psychic thing? like Yes, I guess.
00:21:12
Speaker
Yeah. yeah So they get down there to the marina, which looks like it's the So later on in the series, we get a lot more of like big shots. Yeah. The area. And it looks like it's literally right outside the psych office. Hmm. Right. Because it's like that pier that they have right out there. Yeah, that makes sense. um Yeah, I do feel like that is just kind of the dock that we go to. Yeah. When dock things happen. Yes, perfect. So we go down to the dock and um we see that the murder guy literally looks like he's just washed up on the shore. He has no idea.
00:21:52
Speaker
No one really knows um who he is. There's no fingerprints on him or anything. He's clearly been in the ocean for quite a long time. And in the process of Lassie going down to look at the body, Shawn steals some of Lassie's papers to get a little bit more info on what's happening with this victim. And really all we get is that there's trauma to the body, but we don't really know what killed him quite yet. We just know that there are large puncture holes and about the size of the bite radius. That's pretty much what we've we have gotten in here because it definitely looks like something has chomped on him. So Lassie goes down and he starts trying to figure out what in the world could this be? You know, he's on a 9k streak right now. He's been he's been high. He's feeling confident about like his guesses too. he's Oh yeah. We don't have anything that big in these waters. and Yeah. Oh my gosh. And I loved when
00:22:44
Speaker
It was so funny, the juxtaposition of that to when Sean's like, oh, I'm getting something. I'm getting something. He starts to drawing the the whatever it is. And lastly, he's like, um hold on, hold on. He's trying to figure it out before Sean can. Which was funny. and My favorite line and like line in this little bit was when he's talking about like, oh, a pod of whales and one gets lost and and then whale.
00:23:16
Speaker
Will.
00:23:20
Speaker
and physicals where And to be fair, he's like coming up with some very preposterous ideas similarly to what Sean's going to come up with. but Yeah, I guess he's still in the ocean. Yeah, that's true. Sean comes up with- ah present time. Yeah, in the present time, in the same sphere of influence. The same millennia or whatever. Yeah, like still in the realm of possibilities. And Sean instead pulls out this beautiful drawing. I know, and the way he hedges, like, I'm not the artist I would like to be in. I'm shooting and some charcoal, I know. Yeah. and
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah, great artist. ah Lovely rendering of the Tyrannosaurus Rex. The Tyrannosaurus Rex. I was gorgeous. Yeah, on the leaf pad. Yes, on the legal pad that he stole from Lassie. and Of course, no one believes him because why would they? Yeah. And I also look leading up to that while the Not really back and forth is happening, but like Lassie keeps yeah yeah you know heightening in, and Sean's drawing, and then Jules and Gus are off in the corner like, what's your guy got? And Gus is looking so cocky, like Sean's gonna come in hello everybody's eyes and minds. And I love that they each got like a horse in the race.
00:24:38
Speaker
yeah yeah And then too, when Sean like when sean pulls out the T-Rex drawing, Gus is like, what's this? soloated He's so upset. And even when they get back to, you know, after this, they go back to the psych office and Gus is like, who do you think you're playing at? Like I left work to be here. And we don't even technically have this case. Do you think it was a T-Rex with you?
00:25:04
Speaker
Like, are you kidding me? I do love the line when they're coming in and Gus is like, I love looking like an idiot. So that explains your shoes.
00:25:17
Speaker
z They're just such childhood friends. like yeah They're just written so well. I don't think I'm ever going to be able to get over how well their relationship is written in this show. Because like you could never pull that joke with someone you're like just acquaintances with. like you would Yeah, it doesn't Gus. He doesn't even hear it. He just keeps going. It's like no big deal to him. yeah he starts talking this And this is when we get the whole like I'm gonna have, I have to get back to work. And John's like, what are you gonna drop your your side Yankees? Like, excuse me. yeah i Yeah, the nerve to say that when they haven't had a case in weeks, presumably. wait Weeks, weeks, weeks, weeks. And then what I found so interesting was after this whole conversation, Sean's like, what you know,
00:26:09
Speaker
I really wasn't quite off on that. He's almost surprised with how good his performance is. I know. Upon watching it, and we talk about how we've seen it so many times, it's hard to know if we're watching it with fresh ice.
00:26:24
Speaker
That does always surprise me because like I don't, um I don't realize in the moment of him like doing his drawing and stuff that he doesn't believe that there's a connection to that. Yes. I never clocked that either. And it makes me wonder. Oh, by the way, take a sip. Oh yeah. Everybody. Oh, here we go. All right. I feel like last week we barely did any clocks. I don't think we did. It didn't really feel like there was a lot of Clocking? Clocking as we take another picture. Oh no, wow, we keep talking about it. Yeah, I feel like it was different because it was pre-emptive. Mm, true. Everything was like so fat. It really is the moment, yeah. Yeah. But so here, yeah it made me wonder, does Sean ever really believe what he's saying? Or does he just throw out a joke theory? And when it pans out, he's like, oh, cool. Well, I mean, to get ahead a little bit,
00:27:21
Speaker
When we get to the intervention, yeah I was thinking of which Sean and the which but Spencer witch family, yeah um the way that Henry frames this as he has delusions of having magical powers. When Henry knows, yes no he doesn't. Yeah, that's a good point. It's interesting that Henry, because he could make it about the other silly things that are going that are going on, but he makes it about his delusions of magical powers, which that does kind of suggest that there is some sort of, like that Sean does believe it a bit. yeah And he does have these moments where it seems like kind of he does, or at least he's not like, I don't know, he's like allowing himself to really embody that psychic character in a way where it's hard to even know if
00:28:15
Speaker
if it's a character at all. It's also just so funny to, to phrase it that way. Like he has these delusions about like he does kind of have magical powers like to anyone outside certain abilities, which yeah, which we've talked about. Like what, how do you define, right? Being a psychic or being magical. Like if you just let's get myself in my icon, got my drink, and I just feel like I'm having like,
00:28:40
Speaker
How do you define which?
Intuition vs. Gut Feelings: Shawn and Henry
00:28:42
Speaker
It's a good question. Because I think a lot of contemporary people who are kind of into woo woo stuff would As we've said, would call Sean a witch. Like he's just in touch with his intuition. He's like, and I mean, hello, Henry. When he's like, I know feelings. I know feelings. I got that. Like he's the same. Yes, he's the same. And I guess I could see Henry.
00:29:13
Speaker
saying though, even though they're the same because of the way Sean goes about it, they're different. Yeah, which I think we did talk about when we first talked about which stuff like the idea of like the gut versus intuition. Yes. And which one's more palatable for.
00:29:28
Speaker
here even I could to him saying like, you know, i I don't, I don't go around making a big spectacle. Like I just use it to catch the bad guy. You go around trying to convince everybody else that you have this gift. Just yeah figure it out. You know, yeah, you don't have to pull everyone into the circus.
00:29:53
Speaker
Yeah, which is interesting too like because for Henry, like if that is what he kind of struggles with from Sean and like for him to bring in this guy and frame it like that, like is he hoping to make Sean stop doing that? Well, because you know the other big point of this episode, especially if we're going to take a Henry lens,
00:30:15
Speaker
is actually safety, which I thought was so interesting how many times he brought up, I'm just worried about you getting shot or I'm worried about not calling for backup. But it was a struggle for him to to say that. That's very true. He's not great at Just admitting that he cares about his son. I know. God forbid. I know.
00:30:37
Speaker
yeah but So I wonder why he didn't frame the intervention more along those lines. like you're putting You're intentionally putting yourself in a harm's way. Why are you doing that? No, he had to go to write the delusions of magical thinking or whatever you call the magical powers.
00:30:53
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, maybe when he called this guy, he was just like ranting about like all the things because like that could be it does kind of start with, you know he's making these outlandish claims. um And I guess it comes from Vic initially. So so Vic is worried about him, really.
00:31:09
Speaker
and then enlists Henry to, uh... Well, that's a good point because if it comes from Vic, Henry can't say, essentially, we know what this is. He already told Vic that he believed, like, that, yes, Sean has a gift. Right. So, but in the privacy of this room, he's, like, challenging him, which is hot because he is in on it.
00:31:34
Speaker
yeah and you know what else i was waiting for which is somewhat tangential but i was waiting for the moment because we've seen it a couple of times now whenever shawn's like in henry's presence and we'll see it a bunch more throughout the series but shawn reads this guy talks about collin how he's colorblind how he's all stressed out and then the scene like pretty much ends because they have to go to wherever they go oh vic comes in vic comes in and says that the the Great moment. Yeah, it's a... but the he are just like It's like, I can't even believe it. I love beat where Sean's like, huh? And Gus is like a dinosaur guy. And he's like, oh, see? As expected. As expected, yeah. But I was waiting for the moment when Henry was like, took you long enough to to get back. Oh yeah, we do moments like that. You know, we have a lot like that. Yeah. War was waiting.
00:32:33
Speaker
Go ahead. No, I was like waiting for him to be like, stop it. We all know that he's stressed out about college, okay? Right, right, right. Yeah, he could have. own yeah He could have, yeah. Yeah, and he did it.
Paleontologist Murder Mystery Unfolds
00:32:44
Speaker
He's in a difficult position because on the one hand, he can't really undermine Sean completely. Oh, you know, that's a good point. But on the other, like, I mean, it's interesting that he didn't even expect for this, for it to go down that way for Sean to convince this guy because Sean is always convincing people. Always, yeah.
00:33:01
Speaker
And then things seem to, well, cause right. Cause as soon as. Yeah. Why didn't Henry think of this? As soon as Sean reads this guy, of course the guy is going to go, Oh, you are magical. Like, yeah, you do have special, like weird powers. I don't know how to explain it, but why are we here? Yeah. You know, why didn't he think of that? Yeah. I mean, maybe ah Henry is not great, you know, obviously with his emotions, not very in touch with them. Like maybe he was just so caught up in the opportunity to challenge Sean for all of these reasons.
00:33:31
Speaker
yeah And that very visceral worry for his safety that he just kind of got ahead of himself and like seized the opportunity but yeah wasn't very like wasn't calculated enough about it for it to actually work at all. Yeah, yeah no that's a good point. I think you're right. I think he probably was so so like stuck in everything that was happening that he didn't really think it all the way through.
00:33:57
Speaker
But yeah, Vic comes in, tells us, the guy was a paleontologist. What was his name? I have it somewhere. Professor Christopher Franzen was a paleontologist. I love that.
00:34:10
Speaker
Oh, she's so good. like Yeah, it's just perfect. Perfect. Like, I don't know what it is. It's justs it's just like that. You know, I'm going to, I'm telling you what's happening, but also I am so in disbelief. Yeah. You managed to get this right. It was just the perfect delivery of it. Yeah. And it's just rad implies. Yeah. Kristen Nelson.
00:34:32
Speaker
is beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Oh, I feel like I jumped. We jumped way ahead because because i think because I brought up the intervention, um so let's backtrack. Okay, so Gus goes back to work and then we go to the morgue. Oh, Shawn has an idea of how he can stay in the game. Again, he's like not totally convinced he's right about anything, but not totally convinced that he's wrong about anybody either. And so he's like, oh, I happen to know where there's a perfectly to scale to Rex head. I know. And also like props to Gus's mom for keeping this ginormous thing. Yeah, but also that's so Gus's mom. That's so good compar absolutely. And you know, isn't that like massive basement of theirs? Yeah.
00:35:19
Speaker
I was like, wow, good for him. And then I loved the little, ah a little back and forth later when Gus is like, my mom let you take it happily.
00:35:30
Speaker
Which, like, just adding that texture of like, we haven't met Gus's parents at all. But like, yeah to know they're in town, childhood Gus's childhood home is also you know, nearby is reach. Yeah. And Sean has the kind of relationship where he can just drop by on the doorstep and be like, I need Gus's second grade project or whatever. I know i mean him right now. Yeah. Oh, so good. So funny. And then he actually brings it to freakin funny. So funny. And to see him like walking. This is the first place in the board. Right. The first yeah scene. Yeah. Who what's the
00:36:12
Speaker
Oh, Lord. Woody? Yeah. what's but what ah What is the name of that person? A coroner. Thank you. What is What is that? I don't know. The first time we're seeing a coroner ah in the morgue, which it was kind of interesting to see a coroner that wasn't Woody because he's just so... Yeah, but Woody doesn't come into like season four or something crazy, which I forget.
00:36:37
Speaker
I know he's just such a good, again he's like a great jumping point for Sean because the two of them are just wackadoodles together. Oh yeah, I do feel like the show kind of builds up to being ready for Woody because Woody is yeah such a character. Yeah, like true sitcom character. like not the most grounded of the cast. So I could see why like he wouldn't really fit at all. Like yeah we've talked about like, kind of like with the remake episode, like the season one version fits in season one. yeah Woody would not fit in season one. No, very true. Very, very true. he But he is just a wonderful addition to the series when he gets yeah instrumental when he is there. Oh my gosh, absolutely.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah, seeing this ginormous papier-mâché dinosaur head outside the window. Yeah, because we start with Lassie, Jules, Vic, and the coroner. Yes. Shavrani remain nameless. And they're like having a very professional discussion of what's gone down. And then like a shark fin, we just see the top of us.
00:37:49
Speaker
The top of the dinosaur head go under the window, and back the other way, and then and then he's escorted in by two uniformed officers. I can just imagine them in the hallway like, what are you doing here and what are you looking for? And he goes, I'm looking for the morgue. And they're like, okay, this direction, if you will. He gets in there and I thought it was hysterical. He opens up.
00:38:14
Speaker
but This is like a hinge actioned jaw of this T-Rex. Yeah, oh my god, such a great shot. So amazing. Which definitely makes a title sequence.
00:38:25
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. And so does them, so does their running in this episode, which, so classic. I'm like, wow, little baby Guster, like he put so much time and effort into this. Yeah. He just did such a great job. So Sean like hinges open the jaw of this thing. We see Sean standing inside the dinosaur head and he's like, you know, we can now take the measurements. I have the, the exact bite radius of a T-Rex to scale in front of you here. And they're all like, you no.
00:38:54
Speaker
And then after this little episode, it's no wonder Vic called someone. Yeah, honestly. Yeah, that's a good point. Oh, and he, I forgot they have that moment where he starts just going on and on about, oh, like leaping off a cliff with him. Oh, yes. And stuff. And she's like, are you thinking about that? So she is genuinely concerned for him.
00:39:17
Speaker
Oh my gosh. So I bet she was like, okay, he's getting a little unhinged. Yeah, we need to check in on him. yeah And then Henry turns it into magical grandeur. Yeah. Another thing from that scene, I had to, so a week or so ago when I was up at my mom's, her car broke down and there was this air that said like chassis air or something. And I like looked it up and it's spelled like chassis. And I was like, and my mom kept saying chassis and I, and ah later I was like chassis. She's, she like laughed and I'm like, why would it be pronounced chassis? But apparently that's what it is. And in this scene, Sean says something like you have to unhook your yes chassis. And I was like, there it is.
00:40:01
Speaker
at all but But it's like, you know, when you're like a kid, not even a kid because I didn't know what this was until a week ago, but when you watch something and it just goes right over your head because you have no idea what they're talking about. Like I would have never caught that, but now I know. Although I don't know what it is in the context because in the car, it's just like the frame of the car. He's like, he says to unhook your chat, your chassis, chassis, chassis, naie I guess is correct for no like reason because it's C-H-A-S-S-I-S.
00:40:31
Speaker
Why would you pronounce it like that? Is it like French? ah I must be. Some, some, something. Yeah, so dumb dumb because I don't know what a chassis is. I don't really either. now yeah mean what a learning is taking Yeah, I mean, in the context of the conversation, I think he means it as like, take off the thing that's tethering you to the safety.
00:40:52
Speaker
and like Which I would think is like in Caribbean or something, but yeah there must be different chances.
Clever References and Shawn's Theory
00:40:58
Speaker
I have no idea. But I was like, whoa, that's it. that And he commented on the pronunciation. That's true. And this is exactly what we were talking about last episode when we were saying like there are so many references in the show, but the the show is so good at making the references.
00:41:16
Speaker
you know in creating the references in a way that if you don't understand them, you're still like, haha, funny. And like, you can go on with the episode. But if you do understand, they're like, whoa, like, something a rare example yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and like, so much as the delivery, because yeah, even if you didn't know what was what he's going on about, like, it's so funny. Yeah. He's planning the pronunciation of things. Yeah.
00:41:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, he's hysterical. He still delivers everything so well. So we go from the mark. Maybe. Maybe. the
00:41:51
Speaker
It's so good. And I thought it was interesting too because literally after this he, it's like this conversation, and then he leaves. He doesn't even actually, like, measure the bite. Yeah, but I guess, I mean, maybe with his, you know, his superpowers, he, i like, sees it. Because he even says later. Right to Gus. I guess, like, he's sure.
00:42:13
Speaker
Yeah, so maybe it was just him seeing Cassie. Yeah, he just had to model. yeah yeah i mean really from Even from seeing the body originally, that's like he made that connection, which we didn't talk about how he made that connection. Oh, true. Some Shawn Lore, that he worked at the Wyoming Natural History Museum, which I feel like Wyoming is the funniest state for that punchline. yeah and um He got fired for putting himself in the mouth of a T-Rex skeleton.
00:42:42
Speaker
skeleton And had the bruises for a year. Yeah, so that's how he knows yeah that um what the bite radius is. yeah Yeah, another one of Sean's multitude of jobs. Yes. Whatever it was, 68 jobs. Yeah, high school and I love the way it comes back later. I forget what he's referencing, but he's like, I worked at the you he for an entire weekend before yeah
00:43:08
Speaker
Oh, Shawnee. Yeah, what was he referencing when he said that? He did. Yeah, his knowledge about something like he knows. I might have it written down somewhere. Yeah, maybe later on. Yeah, maybe later on. It was after I know Felix.
00:43:25
Speaker
I know feelings. So after this, Shawn leaves. They go to Henry's house. This is when we get the intervention. And there were a couple of other really good lines that I loved in the intervention scene. First one, I've solved 18 cases this year. It's like, wow, Shawn, good job. Thank you for keeping the count up for us. Yeah, he keeps a buddy count too.
00:43:45
Speaker
Yeah, and I love when Doug finally, Doug, I guess is the psychologist's first name, gets on the side of Shawn and Henry's like, Doug, don't be a stooge! A stooge? That's so Henry. So Henry, I cannot even.
00:44:02
Speaker
I also love, just because I take Gus' giant dinosaur head down to a dead body does not make me a nut job. Gus, you took my dinosaur head to and I took it to the morgue. Come on Gus, I took it to the morgue. Oh man. so I love Gus sitting there and Sean's like, Gus, and he's like, I'm just here for the cupcakes.
00:44:27
Speaker
I mean, with a fork. I was like, Guster, you are so proper. Very funny. Yes. Yeah. I can't mess up that nice shirt. That's true. Honestly, it's probably why. Yeah. So Henry must have like, lured him with company. Absolutely. He knows these boys like the back of his hand. Are you kidding? Oh my god. Oh my goodness. One other line. Just when she's like, you want to tell him who he is, Carlton? No.
00:44:53
Speaker
No. Yeah, perfect. And then he literally just, stay he just stands there and waits. Yeah, he just won't do it. And she's like, he is down let me get our favorite line. So good. Do they go to the house right after that? Or do they go somewhere else? Because my, I think my next thing I wrote down is the house.
00:45:16
Speaker
Yeah, they do. And then they see the garage. where is i I have a line written down here and I don't know where it fits in, but I need to read it because I feel like it really falls into the Sean and Gus relationship. Gus, for my sake, at least pretend you don't know the stuff off the top of your head.
00:45:35
Speaker
And I wrote down when he's like telling him to do a finger thing. like think it seemed like right yeah Yeah. Is that in the garage when they're poking around? Well, because underneath that I have safe cracker Gus. So it's before a garage. It's got to be before the garage, but I don't know when. Oh, maybe it's when he says paleontologist. Maybe he says it after that. No, cause he gets excited like once Shawn, like Gus just says dinosaur hunter and Shawn's as expected like there's not anything else there but yeah that's funny that we both wrote about this moment and yet we have no idea exactly where it is that's really gonna drive me crazy we're gonna have to watch it again remember where it was? Penny who we eventually get to Professor Christopher Franzen's house it could be on the way because we they're like in the car right like we go with them too oh we oh I know where this is okay
00:46:33
Speaker
It is at it is talking to the master's degree student. Oh, neither of us took any other notes on that. i feel like ah Yeah, because they make a Jurassic Park, a Jurassic Park reference walking into that makes sense.
Investigation Leads to Deacon Walker Farms
00:46:50
Speaker
And then yeah I think, oh, trilobites, that's what it was. the nice trilobitees And he's like, they're fish fossils. And he goes, Gus, please pretend you don't know what trilobites are. ah target nobody yeah Cause it was kind of like, I don't know. Yeah, not a whole lot happened. It is funny because like we had, we're gonna.
00:47:12
Speaker
Sean's like, we're going to come through everything they've got. yeah i We, I mean you. Right. naked like five exactly There's more stuff, all the trilobite, the tiny stuff, it's all top shelf. Dead end. Dead end. And then, oh, and this is where we get the first Lassie and Jules are right behind us. He really is on fire.
00:47:34
Speaker
Yes, literally. yeah So then we go to his house because we found out that he like, Professor Christopher Franzen has been like,
00:47:46
Speaker
sleepy, not really going up to him. Yeah, that's what we do get some information. Yeah. Even though it hasn't been a very good professor, you know? Yeah, that grad student is like touchy, which he later I think is the suspect. I assume that's the guy they're talking about. I think so, yeah. Yeah, they don't specifically say, but I think that is the one that they were talking about. Yeah, that's like a funny line. He's like going off and I forget kind of what leads into it. And Sean's like, he's dead.
00:48:15
Speaker
course or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. What is he saying? Yeah. He's talking about how like, oh, don't, don't take a class from him. And Sean goes, he's dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. yeah It's such an odd line. I don't know. Yes.
00:48:29
Speaker
so It feels like in like there's something very 90s about it or something. It'd be like in Felicity or something. Maybe it was totally. but I think it was totally, actually. Totally. When he walks away, it's like, what? Totally, Kyle.
00:48:50
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So they go over to to his house. And the cops have already beaten them there, except Jules and Lassie aren't there yet. I guess the cops are just looking in the house house and Sean notices that there is a shed out back with like a padlock on it. yeah So he says, vicious yeah, very strange. So he says, all right, let's go check that out. And we get our second occurrence of safe cracker Gus, which is one of my favorite gusses. Yeah. And.
00:49:25
Speaker
Sean's like, let's get in here. like you know where We should get in. This is important. But you know we don't break it into and And Gus is like, what do you mean we don't break and And that's being the safe aficionado that he is, which honestly, this is so impossibly impressive. Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker
He literally takes no time at all to figure out the password to this. but And I love the numbers, but we get to see Gus. is pride yeah And he's writing the theatricality. Like usually Sean is heightening his revelations, but this time Gus is like hehe.
00:50:05
Speaker
for
00:50:08
Speaker
but It's so funny and he gets it whatever how many ever many digits it is he gets in like two seconds and then we get the boys like straining been And they go inside to find this really Miraculous shed. Very impressive. Lots of, I mean, he Sean comments like way more than the university has. yeah This is like a really interesting character, this victim. I would agree. He's very intriguing, very nuanced, very a lot going on.
00:50:46
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like it's been a minute maybe since we've seen, you know, a character that really like was fascinated, like in the way we're living is. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Because like, what are his, like, what is, what does he want? You know, like he, because he works at the university. this funding is he he's not He doesn't seem to be dedicated to the students themselves, but I guess just more to the work.
00:51:09
Speaker
Yes, and the students kind of come along with it. yeah mind Yeah, like that's like the only way right is to be at a university but like the fact that he has this personal collection that's huge not sharing that with anybody and also very ambitious because it's like, well, does he want to make the discovery for the glory or to save the program or is it like- I feel like without the program, he can't continue to do the work that he loves. And if he manages to find a big discovery, he gets the glory, but the program also gets to stay. Yeah. i trying to think I'm trying to picture him. Now the only person I can picture is the guy from the like outbreak episode.
00:52:00
Speaker
Oh, other scientists in the lab. yeah Yeah. Also a really interesting character. Um, he's kind of Woody esque in my mind. Oh, which scientist are you thinking of? No, no, you're not thinking of the doctor. You're thinking of the guy with the outbreak. Yes. The guy who has this stuff. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. You're talking about definitely what he has. And also he's from like Twin Peaks or something. Yeah. Which I guess.
00:52:28
Speaker
We'll cross that bridge, we'll get there. Yeah, I can see that. they They are kind of similar, I imagine, in almost this like manicness, but also in what they're trying to do. like Yeah, and kind of, yeah, because like, alo you know yeah, the way they both have sort of noble aspirations and get caught kind of in the crossfire of like other people's Yeah, because like with our guy here, he wants like he wants to make this discovery. Discovery is yeah a noble pursuit, we might or you know say. And like there's nothing wrong with like him wanting to dig on this land, really.
00:53:17
Speaker
I accept that there's a dead body there. Yeah, and it's not his property. I mean, I i guess the whole question of like when when do does the ends justify the means? When is a noble pursuit? When does a noble pursuit allow an inevitable attempt at doing so? Totally.
00:53:37
Speaker
you know Yeah, absolutely. Because yeah, you're right. He has no right to be there. He's been told not to be there. Yeah, specifically. yeah Had he not done it though, we would not only would we never have a dinosaur, we would never have solved Dr. Deacon's murder. That's very true.
00:53:55
Speaker
yeah so i don't That's like a very philosophical question for us. Yeah, there absolutely. Well, and also, I mean, not to like talk too much about a different episode that's way in the future, but like in the outbreak one, that's also a big part of that episode because this guy, who it'll be interesting to watch and talk about that episode having lived through a pandemic or living through a pandemic. That's a great point. um Because like so much of what that guy's reasoning is like,
00:54:24
Speaker
Right. You know, we're not going to be ready if right they don't take this seriously. Right. Um, and yeah, well, yeah, let's not go down that road too much, but it'll be a very interesting. nation yeah Yeah. Yeah. And I think we'll look at it in a different way too.
Ethical Dilemmas and Suspect Walker
00:54:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. After however for many years of this. Yeah,
00:54:46
Speaker
and now yeah but our guy here, like it is interesting cause like Walker seems to have He's pretty, he's kind of cool as a cucumber. You know, every time they interact with him, on like he just he plays them very well. Very well. So much so that they even said at one point, ah he's not a suspect. He probably was a so much excitement suspect. Uh huh. Which is like so good of like...
00:55:15
Speaker
bringing was like We saw Sean brought down a pig, now we see Lassie. The scales are evening out a little bit. Yeah, the scales of justice.
00:55:27
Speaker
ah yeah But he does seem, even though he's presenting a very calm front, he seems a bit desperate like with the digging around his house. like He seems to know he's on borrowed time here. like Absolutely. they're goingnna They're not going to leave him alone.
00:55:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, this is kind of coming to an end. We got to figure it out real quick. her So we've jumped to a part where we've gotten to the farm. The farm is called Deacon Walker Farms. And the way that we kind of get there is twofold.
00:55:59
Speaker
First, while we're in the shed, well, so I guess we we kind of, hold on, let's go back a little. So Gus cracks the safe to get inside. They notice all the wonderful, amazing things. A couple of things are missing. Sean k clocks a, sorry, beverage.
00:56:14
Speaker
hey um sheet a of paper with some X's and some O's on it. He makes the joke he's the worst tic-tac-toe player ever. And he says the line that I thought was hysterical, doodles are the windows to the soul Gus. And then they noticed that sean ah Sean Jules and Lassie are still right behind them. So they quickly rush out of the shed, close it up and lock it, let Jules and Gus find their way there and then kind of sneak up on them. And um Lassie's like, oh, we're going to need to find someone to open this up. And Charles is like, no, we have someone right here who knows how to do this. And Gus is like, already? Yeah. And Charles is like, it's me.
00:56:55
Speaker
but Just a nightmare, this guy. Yeah. And he makes Lassie and Jules walk away because he knows that no funny Gus is going to have to tell him the numbers because he doesn't actually know them. And it's this whole little bit of Gus not wanting to tell him the numbers, but Sean needs to tell him the numbers. He's like, 25. Another great, like yeah, of just their relationship, which we do get a lot of great stuff about that in this episode, but like the bartering that happens, he's like,
00:57:19
Speaker
I'll give you whatever. I don't even remember what he says, but it's so funny. And they open it up and ah the this is when Lassie and Jules go inside. They notice the same things that Sean and Gus notice that there's some stuff missing and there's a lot of you know artifacts in here.
00:57:39
Speaker
But in their conversing with each other, they also mention that this guy's truck is missing. And likely the tools are left in the truck. So Jules and Lassie go to follow this truck lead. And as Shawn and Gus are bickering over the fact that they didn't pick up on the truck being missing, they notice a crate from Ojai Peaches or a Ojai fruit stand crate for Peaches.
00:58:07
Speaker
And Sean says, why in the world would he be going to a fruit stand 50 miles away and realizes that the fruit stand has to connect us in some way? So going to the fruit stand, which again, are peach bollinis. Here's how we tie them. We asked the fruit seller if they have seen Franzen and he says, yep, he goes up the hill every night after buying some peaches and usually comes down the hill.
00:58:30
Speaker
in the morning. So in their pursuit of finding, why is he going up the hill? They come across Deacon Walker Farms. And that is where we spend the large majority of the rest of the episode. And I think we get my favorite exchange. I think I know what it is. The episode which I wrote the whole thing down. oh my gosh Okay, go. So oh they They walk up, they're like in the in the fields, and they see a bunch of you know dug up pieces of dirt, and he and Sean goes, it looks like that movie with Sigourney Weaver. Gus goes, aliens? I was like, no, alien. No, alien resurrection? No, Gus, the one with the holes in Shia LaBeouf. They had holes in Shia LaBeouf.
00:59:13
Speaker
The holes are in the ground, dude. And John Voight was walking around all crazy. Oh, Anaconda! It's like just so funny to finally play in good to this bit. that Incredible. It's like so good because we've talked about how they they set up the bits throughout the series. We literally saw this bit being made and now we have the bit. I love it. So funny. And he can't can't figure it out. What? He can't say it because he's in it. That's why he can't say That's why he can't say it. Wait. Oh my God. That's amazing. I was like, I think is funny because we also talk a lot about like
01:00:05
Speaker
them being in our world, but also being in a world where psych doesn't exist. because like And so, I mean, this just adds to it where Sean knows the movie holes. Gus cannot know the movie holes because Gus is in the movie holes.
01:00:21
Speaker
I did not realize that's why he wasn't calling the name. Yes. Amazing. Yes. And then as they walk away, he's just naming more movies because he's like, he cannot, he cannot say it because it'd be like two universes crossing over in the space time continuum. Could not handle it.
01:00:40
Speaker
So this brings up so many questions for me. How can Sean know the movie in this world in gu and Gus not know the movie, like just and multi? It's almost like, it's funny because it's kind of a great illustration of like a true alternate universe, like phenomenon.
Clever Film References and Humor
01:00:57
Speaker
Like, you know the Berenstain Bears? Yes. You familiar with that? The Mandela effect. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's kind of that. We're like, if it is,
01:01:10
Speaker
if if there were two universes where there was Berenstain and Berenstain Bears, yeah and we came together like they cannot, cannot get to both, you know, and so they just cannot know. Just cannot know. i I love this episode even more now. And I actually wrote down, it's funny that you didn't realize that because I was like, do you think they started with the holes joke and worked backwards? I think so. Or did they stumble into the holes joke?
01:01:38
Speaker
ay I bet someone said that they should make the holes joke. Yeah. And then this like, like like wait iaur hading dinosa oh, be. Yeah, totally. Could be. But i I wonder too, if like, did the joke, and I don't know, maybe if I didn't catch exactly what you mean in making that statement, which maybe I don't, but did that was the joke. Like, did they say, Oh my gosh, we should make a joke about holes. And then.
01:02:08
Speaker
Burton Guster, Dulay Hill was like, I was in Holes. I don't really think Gus should know that movie. And then it turned into this? Or were they just like, how funny would it be to make this joke that Dulay Hill, Burton Guster, can't actually know digging in the ground holes? How could we make holes into an episode? Oh my God, dinosaurs. Yes. Like I feel like that, I feel like that is where it happened. Probably. No way the writers can look it up. Because it is like such a, uh, would you maybe we have to watch Holes?
01:02:39
Speaker
Have you yeah like you've seen it? Years ago. It's kind of an unsettling film. and It's quite dark. And so it's like I don't remember liking it per se. Maybe we have to watch it. But yeah, I do feel like that's one of his other along with Westing, which we also have fun Westing nods, which will be fun to get into those. But that's like one of his claims to be. So like I do feel like they were they would have been aware of it for sure. Oh, yeah. But yeah, it's it's just so funny. I love that joke even more now. Yeah. Because I really was like, what? is He's so bad at this one. I was like this, particularly this is really clear. I he literally even said it. Gus the one with the holes. and So true.
01:03:36
Speaker
oh man so funny okay okay so they make the whole joke oh my god so funny they're looking at all these like piles of dirt and they're saying he must be like super bad at being a pale paleontologist this all seems like really random and Gus Gus Sean being good So impressive psychic that he is. The fact that he can superimpose this thing that he's got with random doodles. Yeah, it was amazing. On top of all of these random holes and then figures out where the dinosaur is. It was a amazing. Yeah. So amazing. And I i mean, I wonder if they would have gotten to it.
01:04:21
Speaker
I bet they would have, even if they hadn't seen the doodles, because as Sean later points out, it's the only one with bulldozer marks next to it. But it was so cool to see him superimposing. We've had a couple of instances of that, like him superimposing things on top of each other. I think it's one of my favorite ways. Yeah, we really see like the photographic memory yeah that he has of like where he can look at something and just literally put something else that he's seen on time. It's crazy. Yeah. So impossibly impressive. And once they do that, I mean, they're really not there for a very long period of time.
01:04:58
Speaker
All of his shots ring out. And they of course start screaming and running. Just like, Gus, run Gus! Running away.
Shawn's Investigative Skills and Getaway
01:05:10
Speaker
running away And we get to see Gus is a getaway driver, which also is going to come in all the time. And he gets so good at it. He's so good. Well, even just in this episode, I mean, he's driving backwards and all of a sudden. like It's amazing that he's that good because he has no reason to be that good.
01:05:25
Speaker
And it's a blueberry of all things. This tiny itty-bitty car that I bet totally does not have like good traction. It's not meant for off-roading. whatever you
01:05:39
Speaker
And they they managed to to get away, but in in the process, of driving away, Sean, I don't know how he managed to ascertain this, but he said that he was shooting at the sky, like whoever it was was shooting at the sky, not intending to hit them. So they weren't really in any danger. But I was like, how, how did he manage to know that just well, I mean, he's, he knows his way around a gun. So maybe that's true. I tell from like the way it sounds or like the way that's true. I do forget that.
01:06:12
Speaker
He has, like, weapon skills. Yeah. Because we very rarely see him with weapons. Yeah. It does, too. I don't think- When we do, it's- Yeah, it's intense, yeah. Heavy. Yeah, very. Well, because it feels like such a, you know, guns and knives and things. Yeah, totally. Seems so serious. And Sean is such an unserious person. Mm-hmm. That it, you know, the only time in which it makes sense for those two to jive is a very serious situation. And it makes it very, like,
01:06:41
Speaker
thrilling, I guess, when it does happen. Like, yeah, compelling. Yeah, well, cuz I feel like as a viewer, you're also like, Oh, man, this is serious. This is serious. Yeah. Sean's holding a gun. What in the world? Oh, and then we have the vision fix. Oh, yeah. So good. The old McDonald vision. She's so So funny. She's so patient with them. she like She's like, ah her but also like, she's like, she really does humor them. Yeah. What I love that she was like, let me guess, his name was McDonald. And he was like, no, no, he's like a farmer. Don't take it so literally God, Vic. And this is when we get the farmer shooty pants. Yeah. former Farmer, farmer shooty pants.
01:07:31
Speaker
Yeah, and John really like takes his time coming up with this by the time Lassie and Jules are in there too. They've already got all this info. And that's yeah definitely not a suspect. they last word Yeah, well, and that's the thing too. Like, I wonder, I wonder if that's partly just because Lassie is so confident about his policing lately that he's unwilling to consider anything else. But it seems kind of reckless to just throw aside someone who has had like multiple multiple interactions with
Walker as a Suspect: Complications Arise
01:08:05
Speaker
the victim. like that yeah mean I guess they have no other... Well, I was going to say they don't really have reason to think. Do they know about the guy digging? I don't think they do. Oh, no, they don't only they don't. They don't really know that Walker has any motive at all. Because like even if they if they didn't know about Deacon,
01:08:25
Speaker
Deacon. I was going to say Deacon Walker, but they didn't know about Richard Deacon. Roger Deacon. Roger Deacon. Yeah. Dang it. But they, like the digging would also be motive, you know, because he was thrilled to know when he went and did it anyway. So trespassing, trespassers will be shot. Like that's all right there. Right, right, right. But really,
01:08:47
Speaker
Yeah, Lassie and Jules don't investigate that at all. Yeah, and I wonder, you know, I don't have a very good grasp, and maybe you can tell me a little bit better being a west coaster. um Being from the east coast, like ah counties and things over here are very small. So 50 miles away from me is like a whole nother world.
01:09:13
Speaker
But here, I'm wondering, like, do Lassie and Jule, like, I don't know what to be. Do you know what I mean? Like, is it their jurisdiction? Yeah. I don't know how that really works. Do they have jurisdiction simply because someone has died and there's a connection to this guy so they can go and talk to him? I think they can definitely go and talk to him. Okay. Maybe at a certain point they would need to involve the local authorities.
01:09:39
Speaker
But i that would also be like 50 miles away would be somewhere like some other county. Um, could be the same county. I don't. Okay. Ohio is in Ventura County. Okay. Santa Barbara, I think is its own county. Oh, fancy Santa Barbara. Yeah. Santa Barbara County. Yeah. Okay, so it is technically a separate thing. Yes. Okay. So I wonder if that was part of it too, if they Because in my mind, it was like, why didn't they just go out there and look at the property right off the bat? But maybe it was, a okay, we'd have to tag in local law enforcement. Like it'd be a big to do. So maybe it was, you know. Which is weak, honestly. Like if that's why,
01:10:27
Speaker
no like they need to do their job. Yeah. But I think it also comes down to the fact that he seemed perfectly normal, cooperative, and also they didn't get the full picture because this guy is lying to them and they convincingly, evidently, he's a murderer and a bad guy, so it makes sense that he'd be pretty good.
01:10:55
Speaker
cold as ice yeah he's serial killer status yeah or more a serial kill yeah great quote It's actually also a really interesting performance because I feel like the but like he seems just like a nice older man. Yeah, he does. He seems sympathetic. Yeah. um So yeah, it is. That's another interesting character. But they got it off the phone records. Right. And they called him and talked to him. and But like what we know is that Franzen was so desperate. I mean, he may have only called him once, twice. And the guy said no.
01:11:31
Speaker
Right. And so really, that's maybe not that suspicious if you don't have any other information. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, without the additional context, it seems pretty benign. Yeah, because like, yeah they wouldn't have necessarily, or maybe it would have taken more time for them to discover that Roger, wait, no, I'm fixing all the people out of France.
01:11:52
Speaker
Oh, Franzen,
Henry's Concerns and Relationship Dynamics
01:11:53
Speaker
yep. It's going up there every night. like they like is it to From their perspective, what they're being told from this witness at this point is that they talked one time or two times and that was it. Right. That's a good point. Okay, so let me go to Henry's again. Yay, Henry. And that's where we get our iconic, I know feelings. Yeah, Sean, I've been worried about you since you were three years old and started eating your own toenails.
01:12:22
Speaker
again He's just so inept at expressing love and concern, but that's what he's doing. oh yeah like again watching you know Watching this so many times, I think he's just added additional layers to Henry, and we've talked about this a lot.
01:12:37
Speaker
how much we like yeah really just love Henry because I think the first couple of times you watch it you're so on the side of Sean like why is Henry just such a butt and like just so annoying and and getting into everything and then as you start to look at him as like oh you're a parent who just cares about your kid you're like oh my god Henry just hurts your soul you know yeah Yeah, well all these characters are like so rich and multi-dimensional. Like you can really just like think about them and why they do things they do. I know I love it. Yeah, this episode for Henry is definitely all about like safety and being worried about Sean and and yeah about him and wanting him to be okay. Yeah, it is interesting though because like later when the intervention gets turned on him, and the guy kind of brings it back to like control.
01:13:29
Speaker
yeah Why do you feel you need to control Sean? but It's so interesting because i could it in their father-son relationship, I can see Sean interpreting it that way. I'm going, why are you trying to stop me from doing the things that I want to do? Stop trying to control me. When in Henry's mind, he is just worried about his safety.
01:13:48
Speaker
so it's interesting to see that that dynamic play after we've just watched the same thing theoretically. Yeah. Well, I'm like what you just said of like watching it for the first time being or the first few jumps being so on Sean's side. Yeah. By the end of this episode, he's got that guy on his side. yeah Oh yeah. So the psychologist. And so like that's where this guy's coming from. I'm like, Sean is great. Like he is so effective. He's so He's just excellent and like Henry is clearly overstepping. Yeah, so yeah, that is funny, but Henry is also such a like he's just so not skilled at communicating about these kinds of things that it's like um for Well, yeah, and it's interesting too because he I Think at the end of the day, he actually knows his son really well like he
01:14:44
Speaker
Sean was putting himself in really dangerous situations. He wasn't ensuring that there was going to be any safety precautions taken. He was going to this guy's farm that literally tried to shoot at them yeah a day beforehand, if that.
01:15:00
Speaker
Yeah. And it's interesting, like, ah Henry says later, like when he, when he follows them out there, basically, like he says like, I or no, it's later when he calls them, it's before he goes out there. And he says, i I remember like, because i also yeah dad yeah he says he has he knows feelings, like he does have a feeling that something is amiss here. Yes. And that feeling is because he remembers this guy was a suspect before. Right.
01:15:24
Speaker
He knows feelings, man. He knows feelings. I mean, if he didn't know feelings, he Sean would never be the way that he is. I mean, he is the the whole reason why Sean is Sean. and ten As good or as bad as Sean may interpret that to be. Yeah. They then go back to the farm, and they dig out the hole that has the dino, and they find a really massive T-Rex fossil, like the entire head perfectly intact. Yeah, I love that moment with the leaf blower. It's just so thrilling.
01:16:01
Speaker
It's such a good moment. The, you know, Sean jumping into the hole, the dust flying everywhere. And then all of a sudden we're down the hole with them and like the whole thing is unearthed and you're like, Oh, whoa. So exciting. And it's like, as Gus says, it's been like processed and everything. So it's like beautifully like stark white. It's this very like dirt background because it's in the ground stone.
01:16:30
Speaker
And they're they're left to think like, why why would he have left this here? If his whole purpose for doing this was to find something and bring it to the university and keep the university being funded, at least the the paleontology department, why would he have left this here?
01:16:45
Speaker
and They kind of come to the, the conclusion that it was like too big to move. Like he couldn't have really done it on his own and he was supposed to be there in the first place. So bringing any more people would have made it more of a big deal than it should be. So they refill the hole to keep it safe, but also to allow them to psychically uncover it later. yeah Like everything else in the world. Which is just like.
01:17:12
Speaker
also so funny. Like, I just love the thought that they're going around planting these little like, seeds and things. They have to be very like conniving. Very, very conniving. Even like, um which is what they establish in Episode One, you know, when they go to the cabin, and they're like, you know, we'll come back later, and we'll like do a big thing. and Yeah. Yeah, it's so fun.
01:17:35
Speaker
Wait, I just saw my name. Why wouldn't the farmer let him dig? Well, let's just go ask him. I mean, John's like, we'll do with mice and men. Help me, Lenny. Where did that come from? I know. Was he? I know. Maybe. He just pulled it out of his butt. Like, I don't even know why he did that. Maybe it's just another psychologist or him we have to listen to. He's true. Because does James Frode just have a Lenny that he wanted to do? Like, who decided? And like, why? I mean, I guess they're in a Like it's kind of a rural story of Mice and Ed. Yeah, and there's like farming. So maybe he's like... Farm. There you go. Mice and Ed. Farming. Yeah, two people. But it is so funny and he's so attached to it. Yeah. Hi, I'm Lenny!
01:18:21
Speaker
George. and live on there like guess it's like definite not And they try like three other things and then the shots like shoved things up against door the That was so freaking
Revelation of Deacon Walker's Dual Identity
01:18:37
Speaker
funny. And this is when we find out that Deacon Walker is two different people, Roger Deacon and Sullivan Walker. And It is now no longer named Deacon Walker Farms. It's now just Walker Farms because Roger Deacon went missing. We don't know where they are. Although we don't really find out that they're missing at this point in time. We just found out late partner. Partners no longer in the picture. yeah And this is also when
01:19:06
Speaker
Sean and Gus noticed that there are some ah additional holes behind Walker's house that look very much like the holes that Franzen was digging. But all dug with machinery.
01:19:18
Speaker
But yeah, all dug with the bulldozer. And to the untrained eye, one might think that Walker was looking for dino bones. But we get a call from Henry, like Kylie just said, about a 20-year-old case where Roger Deacon went missing and was never found. So this leads Sean to believe that Sullivan Walker killed Roger Deacon. These are some very like interesting names. It's funny because they're not very fancy names, but they feel kind of like old timey in a way. They do. They absolutely do.
01:19:54
Speaker
ah ah so Roger Deacon went missing and Sean says that Roger Deacon must be hidden on the property. Yeah, I do love that moment when everybody's like, I forget what he says, but when Sean's just like... I mean, you're not at the farm. Don't go anywhere near that farm. Yeah, and something about Deacon, and Sean's like, I might be looking at him. Yes, yes! He's just so cryptic about it, and that's the end of their conversation. And Henry must be like, what? Sean! Sean! Very typical Henry Sean yell.
01:20:29
Speaker
And then probably one of my favorite, my other favorite lines of the episode come. We cut to inside the police station and Jules walks in, Lassie and Vic are like talking about, you know, Hey, the, the master student or the grad student or whatever didn't pan out. Although we thought it was. Yeah. Cause they're chasing their own, their own lead. Yeah. need Yeah.
01:20:46
Speaker
Jules walks in, says that she just got off the phone with Sean. She says we got he wants us to go up to the Ojai Valley somewhere because he guarantees that in 10 minutes he can solve the case, nab the killer, close an additional unsolved murder, and unearth a dinosaur.
01:21:01
Speaker
What? Like imagine, just imagine not being Sean or Gus in this situation and hearing that. I'd be like, what? Yeah. And like at that point, Lassie knows he's lost, you know? Oh, yeah. And Vic is like, well.
01:21:16
Speaker
I'm curious. like I love that she doesn't really have allegiance to any of them. She's like, we're going to solve the case. yes And she's entertained by their antics. But yeah ultimately, she's like child's play. yeah Yeah, let's see what's actually happening. I really care who it is that solves it. Exactly. involved yeah love it So they all head up to the Ojai Valley, which I'm like good on them for going. And we see our, really our entire crew is up there. Yeah, it's everyone. Shawn and Vess, Vic, Beth, and Jules. Have we ever seen them all together? I mean, we must have. But this, like with Henry. With Henry, yeah. Yeah. And Vic, because Vic was one for a while. And you haven't. I mean, we've seen like,
01:22:05
Speaker
for mutations of them all. But yeah, we got the whole gang. Yeah, it's so fun. In the middle of a random field. It's great. Yeah. And of course, Walker, Walker's there too. But Henry shows up because he was worried about Sean and he was concerned. He just knows. He knows he wasn't gonna call for backup. And really the line is I was worried about my tools. Oh, you're so silly. He's so silly.
01:22:31
Speaker
he's just such a Again, Henry is such an interesting character because he's like so worried about showing his feelings. He's so concerned about like you know being manly in that way, but then doesn't really care about being manly in other ways. Yeah, that's a great point. like We've talked a lot about his masculinity. and yeah yeah Maybe it's even more than that. Yeah, why why is it?
01:22:53
Speaker
i mean It does seem like he views it as some sort of weakness yeah to express that kind of affection. And it's also interesting because like we meet his dad very briefly later, but we don't really get anything that would suggest he was overly like... No. Yeah, I would say he was more like strong opposite yeah yeah than he is like Henry. yeah yeah Well, I mean, maybe, I don't know. Cause I could, a you know, I think one could argue that the laxity of Henry's dad is maybe the reason why he's more rigid. Like I could understand that. That does make sense. Cause also his brother is very much right very much the same way.
01:23:38
Speaker
Yeah, as in Lex. Yes. So I could, I could understand that. But I feel like when it comes, I mean, well, I don't, I don't really know. I'm not a man, but the if you know what I mean? Yeah. I would, I would hope that seeing another person. Well, I guess we don't, I don't know. I guess we don't really see Henry's dad in that way. We don't really see him addressing masculinity at all. Yeah. And their relationship. Yeah. In, in that way. So no, maybe he was kind of detached in showing his feelings. Could be. And that's why Henry is the same. Yeah. Another thing I'm thinking about is that like, like when we, we've talked a lot in flashbacks about how Henry is like the present parent and they have such a close relationship and he is always there for little Sean.
Impact of Masculinity on Shawn and Henry's Bond
01:24:25
Speaker
yeah and part of all the memories. And then they have this significant break in their relationship. And so maybe it's like, maybe he's kind of afraid to express that much great point love to be that close to him. yeah Yeah. I could see that. I mean, in short, you know,
01:24:49
Speaker
For as like goofy as Sean is, i mean you could definitely take a lot of what he says to heart and it could really hurt. Yeah, because also every time Henry does say something, like a little bit emotional, Sean jumps on it. Yeah, and I have feelings. yeah yeah I know feelings, whatever you do.
01:25:11
Speaker
Yeah. And yeah, there's so much like, Sean has such a warped view of Henry. Like, again, we bring it up like every other episode, but like that scene where he's watching him in like his whole worldview about Henry is changing because of what his mom says about their divorce. Yeah. And like, you just see Henry like, as like a totally different, like we also as the audience see him completely differently in that moment. Just yeah, it's very complicated relationship.
01:25:40
Speaker
Yeah, and that's I mean, I think that's part of what is so lovely about psych. Because that's really, I mean, we all have I think complicated relationships with the people in our lives that we love the most, you know, yeah our parents or our closest friends or our siblings or our grandparents, you know,
01:25:58
Speaker
it It's part of it, and and dealing with it is is part of life, so it's kind of nice. And like we've said before, like and the the series in totality, they're they're definitely landing at a better place than where they start, and it's nice to see that progression throughout the game.
01:26:16
Speaker
And there's also like no singular answer to like no yeah the problem. There's no singular problem either. like It's just life, yes which is what we love about meandering. is we just like It's like a we're just witnessing a lifetime. ah I mean, literally in some ways, like we get their past, we get their Yeah, their story is not done. The movies keep coming. Like it's just so, that's like my favorite thing to just spend time with characters forever. And yeah, we could just sit here and talk about them all day because there's no, there's no finality. There's no conclusion. It's just life. Literally why we have this podcast.
01:27:00
Speaker
Yeah, so we love Henry. We love Henry. We love Sean. We love Syke. We're happy to be here. We love the whole show. Yeah, we're just happy. Oh, and so, and we get the nutshelling here. It's a beautiful nutshelling. Yeah, we're loving the nutshelling. And Henry shows up and he just ruins it for Sean.
01:27:24
Speaker
unbeknownst to him. And Henry's like, Deacon is buried on the property. And Shawn's like, Dad! annoyed at him. That was like the best part. He's so annoyed. So they get, you know, Shawn ends up wrapping the whole thing up and saying how you know Franzen came looking for the dinosaur in order to save the department and he finds a dinosaur but the reason why Walker didn't want him looking around is because he killed Deacon and buried him somewhere on the property but he can't remember where. So if we have Franzen find a massive dinosaur it's going to bring a bunch of people from all over the world onto the property to start digging and then someone is eventually going to find Deacon and he is going to be arrested.
01:28:07
Speaker
So, we do, in fact, end up solving whatever the listing was. solve Solving the case, nabbing the killer, solving that additional case, and then the owner's final demonstration rachel yeah will the dinosaur. And in very Gus and Sean fashion, Gus is like, you just want me to undo this whole hole. And Sean's like, no, buddy.
01:28:36
Speaker
He's like, I'm not falling for it, Sean. You dig it. And he goes, all right, well, you won't get the credit. And he's like, never mind. And everybody's like, OK, bye. And we've got stuff to do. Yeah. And in the little background, we get Sean going, I'm going to name him Zippy, or Chubby. Yeah, so I could paleo some shots better. Yeah, all the stuff that we will later see in a moment. OK, some other moments from the nutshelling that I want to mention.
01:29:05
Speaker
when Deacon, no, Walker, i can I think the Deacon Walker is really throwing it. When Walker, like I don't have to take this or I don't have to listen to this and Lexi's like, actually you do. Like i love I love a moment like that where Lassie drops all the competition yeah and just is like, we're gonna solve this case. And then Oh, when Henry interrupts and Sean's like, that's why I don't invite you to these things. This is like an invitation only. Yeah, crashing the party and he's like, he's like a teenager again. Dad, you're embarrassing me. Yeah, exactly. So good. Yeah. Let me go back to, we end up at the station again with our jewels and lousy scene. Yes. Oh, so sweet. I also love we get a taste of baseball stand jewels.
01:29:56
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Yeah, so cute. Yeah, I love how she just, I love how to, her knowledge is so great that she can literally pull the specific years out. She's like, why would I care? 75 years old, 66. So cute. So cute. Yeah. It makes sense when you consider like, she grew up with a bunch of brothers and her dad and like, that was probably like, but I mean, do we ever hear about Jules' mom? I don't even, I don't think so.
01:30:25
Speaker
We see her in that flashback from the episode with the dad just at the birthday party, but like we don't spend a lot of time. yeah she's like yeah she feels like she spent more time with like her brothers or her dad. So yeah, I think she has so much admiration for her older brother. I can totally see her like, you know, yeah following him or do whatever he does. yeah Yeah. And then we get our intervention. But now it's for Henry. And I also thought it was interesting. Sean was wearing red Henry's color, because now Sean's in the Henry job of being the one that has brought
01:31:02
Speaker
guy i know i know to get those colors I'm obsessed with the colors. Wow. and Well, that makes so much sense though. Yeah, right. Because now he's he's channeling his Henry. He's the one who's having an intervention. Yeah, tricking him into it. Yes, of course, have to. And then Henry gets mad at everyone and yells at them to leave.
01:31:24
Speaker
Which I'm sure Sean expected that, but like, oh yeah I'm sure the whole situation was just hilarious to him. I'm like, he just wanted to see his dad react like that. Oh my gosh, of course. I'm sure that was really the goal. The goal was not to actually have an intervention. It was to upset him. So funny. It's so funny. So yeah, so good. I just, I love this episode. It's a very feel good, like a stereotypical psych. Do you know what I mean? likes Yeah, it's a perfect one. ah Yeah, it's so good.
01:31:54
Speaker
I did. So do we want to call this one body or two? Oh, that is a good question. He does solve two murders. He does. I say we call it two because two murders were solved. So that brings our our new rule. Yeah. If there's a dead body murder solved, that sounds really strange.
01:32:22
Speaker
um bodies Murderer was found what someone died and the case was solve solved. yeah Yeah. Then we'll count it.
Intervention for Henry: Father-Son Dynamics
01:32:32
Speaker
So that brings us up to 19 in the murder count for it totality and two for the murder count for the season. Cause remember we had no murders. Yeah, we had no murders last time. So two for the season 19 overall.
01:32:46
Speaker
All right. I know. Solid it showing. Yes, indeed. It's it's brand and brought us up to par for the season so far. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still ahead on the series. That's very true. episodes too And again, we haven't even gotten to the serial killer episode. Oh my gosh. I know. We'll see where we land. Yeah. So our next episode is Psy versus Psy. Oh my gosh.
01:33:13
Speaker
I get like a secondhand embarrassment with this episode. This episode makes me kind of uncomfortable. I know. well And you're just saying like, I love to see Sean win. And like in the next episode, we really see Sean taken down. Yeah. Hardcore. Yeah. Like it's, it's embarrassing. Yeah, it is. The way that this one doesn't really feel. I mean, also you're seeing him start from the bottom and go up. And then in the next episode, you're seeing him fall.
01:33:43
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. And why is it so, I guess it's so embarrassing, secondhand embarrassing because it really, it's ah another psychic versus Sean and the other psychic just seems to be so much better than him, which is really confusing when you think about part of like the ethos of the show is kind of making fun of like psychics, like knowing that psychics don't really exist.
01:34:08
Speaker
Yeah, well, we will have a lot to talk about with her whole like origin story. Oh my gosh. Because it i've always yeah I've got questions. I've always had questions about this. Okay, good. I'm glad we're gonna talk about it. ah But yeah, it's kind of interesting to see like, a quote unquote, another psychic. like yeah and He really gets played. I think it's hard to watch him get played.
01:34:30
Speaker
Very, yeah very much so, he gets played. Yeah, and and unlike we've ever seen, because really before now, he's been maybe behind the eight ball, if that's the saying. Yeah. Oh, yes. That seems real, I think. Wow, okay, proud of myself. He felt like kind of behind the eight ball, but not like someone was really one upping him. Like even this episode with Lassie, like Lassie was kind of doing his own thing and Sean was doing his own thing, but they- Right. Their techniques are so different. Yes. In this upcoming episode, it really just feels like this other person's better than him. And that's really weird to see because we've never seen that before.
01:35:11
Speaker
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01:35:40
Speaker
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