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S2E1: Trouble for 2
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We're back to school with more Psych breakdowns! Join us as we talk American Idol, American Duos, and many many attempted murders. Can Shawn use his powers for a different type of good and predict bad deeds before they even occur? Find out with us on this episode of Phsysics101!
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00:00:20
Speaker
All right. Hi everyone.
Introduction to Cycics 101 and Psych
00:00:21
Speaker
And welcome to the Cycics 101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psych and the antics of Shawn and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar. And this is my partner, Rance Cade. And today we're going to be talking about season two, episode one of the famed TV show, Psych. I can't believe we're on season two. Crazy. We did a whole season. I know. And it really, it's so weird because a couple of episodes ago, you mentioned how we've been doing this for a couple months now.
Podcast History and American Idol's Impact
00:00:52
Speaker
Yeah. It does not feel like we've been doing this for a couple months. When you think about having covered 15 episodes, that's an after show and now we're in the season two. which Okay, so we have 16 episodes this season. Okay. It looks like. Yeah, wild. Fair few.
00:01:11
Speaker
yeah It's crazy that we've, we've been doing this for as long as we've been doing it. Cause I think we've been posting now for like four months and then we started a little bit. started like yeah It's probably been like a good six months of us doing this. It's kind of crazy. I know. We can figure out like the day that we like, oh, we should look at our texts some of the day that like, god well, I don't know if that would be the true start of like when you suggested it. Let me see if I can. Whenever we first met and we'll have like an anniversary party. Oh my gosh. We should have a birthday party. Okay. Let me see if I can find.
00:01:50
Speaker
if it will show. Okay. Our very first ever, at least on this, the recording platform that we're on. Which I think was the first one we tried. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Indeed. So February 19th. Okay. That's our birthday. February 19th. Let's put it on the calendar. I feel like that's a good day. That does seem like a good day. January 19, two 19. Hmm. This is my sixth birthday.
00:02:23
Speaker
Okay, we'll have a big party. Unfortunately, it's a Wednesday next year, but... Oh, that's a very strange day. We'll have a ah birthday Eve party. Ooh, that's fun.
00:02:36
Speaker
So, season two episode one, American Duos, American Duos, and we also watched season one episode one of American Idol, which was which quite the trip. one blast or the past i crazy to watch the very first episode of this show because I feel like it's really, it's quite Americana. Like it's a very, you know, it was very nostalgic, like the, did you need any and and the the intro, like sequence that, you know, blue character person that kept like morphing into different people. I was like, whoa, I totally remember that, but I know.
00:03:12
Speaker
Yeah. It's not something in my consciousness that I remembered. It was really wild. And it was cool getting to see Simon, Paula, and Randy like doing this for the first time together. Yeah. Well, and just the idea of like like the way they would talk about, I don't know, like when they went to Chicago and the news lady was like, it's for the new television show. Oh, yeah. I know. you like yeah It's amazing that Just to think what a phenomenon it would become. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I even thought because exactly it was.
00:03:45
Speaker
like culturally significant. Yes, very much so. People sat down, as with most TV, but I feel like very- Especially at the time when they like held up the phone that you would vote with. What is it? Did I put like cell phones in your friends's question mark? I'm like, is that a landmine? What is that? Yeah, ch like a massive, chunky- I did check, it was 2002.
00:04:10
Speaker
oh my gosh okay so yeah really early 2000s yeah which i'm like i i even watched the i would have been like seven i think i had a i think i knew of it but i don't think i watched it yeah maybe our parents were watching it at the time yes it was like were you like a ah household where on certain nights of the week you had like your particular shows you watched I think for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Us too. I loved that. Appointment television, they call it. Yeah. It was so much fun. Like, okay, on this day, we're going to watch Survivor. And then on this day, we're going to watch my wife and kids. And then on this day, like, it was just- Great show. Oh my. I love that show. I'm so glad you know that show. Yeah. That show is so good. And so my dad's humor, which you know my dad, he is just a goofball. So amazing. But it was so, it was so interesting to see
00:05:03
Speaker
the very early iterations of the show, especially the like American version of it, because it's not technically a new show because they had
Evolution of American Idol's Auditions
00:05:12
Speaker
Pop Idol. Right. Yeah, which I kind of forgot that it wasn't. I had no idea. Yeah. No clue, which makes so much more sense as to why Simon Cowell was there. Right. and He was like the mastermind behind the whole thing. like Yeah. Very smartly on his his part. and I also thought it was so interesting too, even in this you know pilot of the American version,
00:05:33
Speaker
He was talking about the X Factor and like blah, blah, blah. And then he said X Factor. I was like, hey. Same. Oh my God. And then he goes on to make the X Factor. I was like, man, Simon, you're just a yeah mastermind. like you said But it was so funny because you could tell that they were trying, they were so even though this was a show that was produced in the UK, you could tell that they were trying to like find their American footing because yeah you know, they had two hosts, which was like crazy. Yeah, I was like, wait, who's that guy? Yeah, me too. I was like, okay, I know Ryan Seacrest, but yeah I don't, who, what? But I realized it's because like the hosts on the Pop Idol version are like a comedic duo, like they're, they do stuff together, right?
00:06:19
Speaker
So they were like, Oh, let's try the same thing here. Obviously it doesn't end up working and they just make it Ryan Seacrest. I don't know what happened to the other guy. Um, but it was kind of interesting seeing that they were still looking at the bits and stuff that they would do. Yeah, it was very early. I don't remember if like they.
00:06:35
Speaker
like Were the auditions always one episode? That really took me aback. I was like, whoa. No. In later seasons, they dragged. Just milked the- Oh, just so milked it. like I remember it being like three weeks in one city and it would be like all around the country and then it would be like two, three weeks of just getting down to 30.
00:06:56
Speaker
and Yeah, it was so fast. It was so fast. It did feel like long watching it. I don't know if maybe it was and when it aired like a two hour event, you know, that how they do or things like that. Yeah, yeah. um But yeah, I was like.
00:07:10
Speaker
moving so fast, and we didn't even see Kelly Clarkson's audition. But I saw her. Did you catch her? Oh, in in one of the shows. It was really fast. I was like, yeah, she is. When I heard her audition was like amazing and terrible. I actually looked it up right after I was done. So I was like, well, I have to. Oh, they had it somewhere? Yeah. I can't believe it didn't make the show. It was like this adorable. like She did a whole like, they had this banter. She like switched seats with Randy. like It was this whole thing. So I can't believe it didn't make it. But yeah, check it out.
00:07:41
Speaker
All right, I will go watch it. I will go watch it. Yeah, it was really it was very nostalgic. It was very nice to Yeah, I remember it having like a video game of American Idol or something. And so as soon as the music came on, I was like, whoa, I felt like video Quantum Leap back. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think I had that one too. I think I had, um, because now that you say that I'm like, what other music video games, I feel like I had a Spice Girls one too. It's like spice world. Oh my God. Amazing. Yeah.
00:08:13
Speaker
off the early 2000s. They were so great. And the hair. Oh, I mean, there was, yeah, there was a lot going on. The fashion. The fashion. Yeah. It was, it was so interesting. But I also really liked, which I thought was cool because watching American Idol and having not seen, like I don't remember seeing this episode. It was kind of interesting to hear Simon talk about like we're letting you into the audition process. The audition process is like a really tumultuous place to be. And I was like, oh, you're really right. like Actual actors or like actual performers that do stuff like this. But it's also interesting where like people who are auditioning as part of their career, I would think
00:09:01
Speaker
are not as bad as these people are. They're not going in with that kind of confidence and that ineptitude. and like yeah so would hope like Even though he says like this is what it's like like, I feel like it's not really what it's like. I'm sure like they're at least fine, I would imagine, yeah what i wonder at that level that he's talking about.
00:09:21
Speaker
Yeah. I wonder if at the higher level, when you're looking for something specific, if maybe there's there's an ability to be, I want to say like more nitpicky maybe, because you know, like you have a very specific vision. Like here, they don't really have a vision of what they want. They just know that they want someone who can be the next big thing.
00:09:46
Speaker
And what they're looking for is talent above all else. And yeah, they definitely, whoever the producers were, definitely intentionally let some very questionable people through to get heard by the judges. Although I don't really know how they do it in the first couple of seasons. Do you think they see everyone in the first couple of seasons? Maybe. I mean, they probably could because it wouldn't have been like a known thing. So like they wouldn't have had like time. I mean, I'm sure, yeah, the bigger it gets, the more they have to weed through.
00:10:14
Speaker
Oh yeah, I know. I know for a fact later on, it was like a multi-stage thing that you had to go through and only if you made it to the very end. But in order for it to truly be a American Idol, you have to have some bad people. That's true. And they were very interesting.
00:10:30
Speaker
yeah there was some i kept i Let's see, I wrote, this is a nightmare. And then I wrote it again. Yeah, I forgot how bad. and Why are we doing this to ourselves? This is a nightmare.
00:10:47
Speaker
Because really, I do not enjoy cringe comedy. And it was cringe. it was mean Very much. word Yeah. Like even the one part, who, who was it? I don't remember who it was, but someone left the audition after just getting told that they can't sing and they went outside and they were talking to Ryan and they were like, I just, I don't understand. They think they can judge me. And I was like, questions um it's It's literally.
00:11:15
Speaker
That's why they're there. That's why you came here. So they would judge you. Yeah. I mean, it's tough watching people who are like so confident. Yeah. I think that's the thing. Like if they went in there and they're like, you know, I'm trying this out. I don't really know. And then they're like, you can't sing. They're like, Oh, okay. Well, no, no harm. No foul. Thank you. But no, they're very confident that they can sing and then get very upset when they're told that they can't. And that hurts.
00:11:44
Speaker
I do. I was glad we watched it because I felt like, and you know, obviously I had American Duos episodes in my head as yeah I was watching. And I'm like, they could have just watched this one episode and written American
Psych's Episode 'American Duos' as American Idol Parody
00:11:55
Speaker
Duos. I feel like like it was a true yeah send up of that, like but very much. Even the the guy who had been at multiple cities. Yes, exactly. Like little details like that. I was like, wow.
00:12:08
Speaker
Yeah, maybe they did. Maybe they were just like. But I do think like there are some elements that I remember more from pop culture, like Paula Abdul's. I don't know a lot about like the. Yeah. the But the way people talked about her was very much the way this woman is presented in American. Yes. Yeah. Which I think you got a little bit like she's a little spacey, I guess in the episode. But yeah, I think that came out a along more as the show went on. Yes. And also like the dynamics between the judges like. Mm hmm.
00:12:38
Speaker
Paula and Simon, I mean, well they were kind of arguing, but I feel like they kind of have like some chemistry there that they were like played with in the, in the parody too. But yeah, if I mean, it really was like just kind of one for one parody. but Yeah, it was great. Yeah. It was so fun. And we've mentioned last season, how at the very end of season one, we feel like they're finally getting all of the like psychisms in place. Oh, good Lord. Oh my God. We had some really fun ones. Yeah. Yeah. yeah So good. Not only is the episode in homage to, and quote unquote, homage to American Idol, but they are also just thrown out every bit in the book. They made so many references, like every other breath. So many references. Yeah. I was like the flashback alone.
00:13:28
Speaker
I feel like it's our biggest pop culture moment that we've had so far. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, fantastic. Very clear Michael Jackson. Actually, wonderful outfit. I wonder who made that. Both of their costumes. I know. Incredible. Yeah, very good. And the eventual adult versions of them, also fantastic. Did Jules make those for them when they got older? I don't know. But fantastic nonetheless. Yeah. Yeah, the production value is maybe coming up too yeah from the show, just in general. and Just the fact that they got Tim Curry. Curry. Yeah. So I was like, what? It's season two. Like I know it was popular, but was it this popular? I didn't know was this popular for Tim Curry. Yeah. Tim Curry. Sorry. It was just like, but no, I mean, yeah. Wild. Crazy. And he was Jean Gershon cheese.
00:14:24
Speaker
Oh my gosh. She was great. She was fantastic. here And her like, that was the fun thing too. It felt like the wackiness that is Psych was not just focused on Sean and Gus. Like all the other characters are making a bunch of references too and playing yeah all these bits too, which I thought was, was really fun. Yeah. Well, we also talked about how like.
00:14:50
Speaker
because like with Goochberg, we were kind of like, like the dynamic is kind of similar with Lassie and, I mean, not, not that's, I don't know, not the same, but like you know yeah just the whole like, and also Lassie being on kind of the outside of the investigation. Like there were some, like this episode did feel similar to Scary Sherry in ways that like, I felt like we had talked about how we anticipated that and it rang true when like watching it. Yeah.
00:15:20
Speaker
and Yeah, it's just like, but yeah, these like huge characters and like these are really funny dynamics, like um Henry and... Oh my gosh, Henry and Nigel, I... Yes. That whole scene. That scene is crazy. Like the two of them going at it on one side of the table and then shawning dust fighting about the corncobs on the other side. like I literally wrote down the corn slap. I was like, this is too funny. Keep playing, Sean. Go ahead. I literally smacked him. It was so funny. It was like, wow, Sean. Like, mediating on the other side. Like, sneakily. Like, oh my god, it was so good.
00:15:57
Speaker
So good. and And, you know, again, just comes back to this this thing that's like so good at doing, which is making all this feel so realistic. Like this is an actual dynamic that would happen between two best friends that have been friends since childhood.
00:16:13
Speaker
Like, you know, I totally say that. and like him you know yeah and like the real it's and It's so like tight because like it had I would love to watch like rehearsals for that scene or something. yeah like you The timing of everything has to be so perfect yeah for all those like moving pieces to work. Oh my gosh. It was so good. I love like pretty much anything that happens at Henry's house. I feel like it's always so good. And we got another like a gem, hold on, from Henry.
00:16:43
Speaker
Oh, first? Well, I don't know if we want to talk about it. Do we want to talk about the details? i't I don't know. the place where I know. Also, we've had a couple weeks off. Yes, we have. We took a slight hiatus. Skylar went on vacation. So, you know, we're finding our footing. So, you know, whatevs. Yeah, bear with us. But I would just like to say, robe code violation. That's all I would like to say for now. I mean, yeah.
00:17:08
Speaker
It was just so good. Okay. maybe Okay. Let's go back to the top and we'll get there when we get there. So the flashback, we talked a little bit about that already. Yeah. So the, the idea of the flashback is that it seems like there's some sort of talent show at elementary school for Sean and Gus. And they've decided that they are going to do it tears for fear song. And they were both supposed to dress up as the members of tears for fears, but Gus was a little nervous. So instead he dressed up like Michael Jackson and went on and performed. As you do. As one does. in you know Yeah, why not? And um oh, and even that, even the Michael Jackson reference, they reference Michael Jackson like three times in the first American Idol episode. Oh, yeah. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe just like that. They're like, oh, we're going to write an American Idol i episode. Let's watch the first episode.
00:18:06
Speaker
I really hope so because that just feels right. So we get to, that's literally it for the flashback, probably one of our quickest flashbacks. Yeah, how it is also one that we call back very explicitly in a way, or we just like echo it very explicitly. Yeah, parallel and at the end. Yeah, we do. So the the general premise of the episode is the TV show American Duos, which is very clearly a spoof on American Idol, except instead of there being one person, there are two people that audition together.
00:18:38
Speaker
convenient for our duo. Yes, for her duo. Comes to Santa Barbara for their audition process. And while they're there, one of the judges has gone to the police and said that he needs some like extra protection because someone has been after them. He's had a stalker. And our character who says this is Nigel St. Nigel. He's British. He's the only British one. And he is very blunt, like very straightforward very to the point.
00:19:08
Speaker
Very cutting. Very cutting, yeah. And Chief Vic. Is she still Interim Chief Vic? I guess she is, right? Yeah, she is. Yes, Interim Chief Vic, although you call her that. um She gets the boys down to the station.
00:19:27
Speaker
as a means of helping Nigel St. Nigel, because theoretically, they should be able to support me. Well, he doesn't want the police to help. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, he doesn't want their help because he thinks they're like in cahoots. Go in on it. You're right. Yeah. Although- I think he's pretty paranoid at this point because so many things have been going- Have been happening. Going down. Yeah. That's fair. Which he exhibits throughout the episode. He is- A little jumpy. Yeah. Yes. That's very true. Well, then why, I wonder why he, I guess maybe his, I was going to say, why would he trust Sean and Gus if they were suggested by the police? But I guess maybe it was very enticing to have someone who could theoretically see the future. Yeah. Well, and that they presented in a very convenient way where it's like, he needs someone to anticipate what the stock is going to do. And it's like, okay, so you need a psychic. We've got one right here.
00:20:19
Speaker
the that kind yeah That's funny. Wait, okay. I'm just realizing in my notes. we So right after the flashback, we do go to them watching American Duos. yeah yeah And one thing I just wanted to note, because at first I wrote down like, does American Idol exist in this universe? Because Sean calls it i think so another knockoff of an of the other knockoff of the original knockoff of that other show.
00:20:47
Speaker
yeah But yeah, it for sure does. But I think it it reminded me of like how they handled a mentalist kind of like with ah just like very specific kind of how we've talked about how they are part of our world. Yes. With the exception of them of psych not existing. Everything else is
Pop Culture References in Psych
00:21:05
Speaker
the same. Yes.
00:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think so. I think that's... And later they reference William Hung, who is an American Idol contestant. So yeah that was like the closest they came to like naming it. Yes. So I think that's it. I bet maybe to use the words American Idol was gonna cost them a lot. so That could be, yeah. And it's not like the same media conglomerate produces that. Oh, fair, fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:33
Speaker
Yeah. No, I do think I agree with you that American Idol exists in this world. This is just yet another iteration of. Yeah. And it's fun. I feel like another way they're able to get away with that is how much Sean doesn't want anything to do with it. Like he's like, he doesn't even know what it is because he's so, you know, he's too cool for school, but always it makes the, like the obliqueness of the references to it work because Sean's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:22:02
Speaker
when I love to their little, um, their little back and forth about not being able to use the pause button. I thought that was so funny. Yeah. There was so much of just like the TiVo and my, and then like guests like, okay, no spoilers. I don't want to hear another thing about American duos because it's like, he's got to go home and watch it. It felt very 2000s in a fun way, which having just watched an episode of American Idol, I was like, my childhood, I'm like back. Yeah, it was. It was a very nostalgic watch the whole time. Yeah. The whole, uh,
00:22:32
Speaker
Yeah, the whole pairing. Also, I thought one of the little bits he said, first of all, he gave us our second ever Gastonbia, which I thought was perfect. Oh, yes. Gastonbia rabid porcupine. That was amazing. But we also got for the love of Lori Loughlin. I know. That was so funny, but also like,
00:22:56
Speaker
Didn't age the best. I was going to say they didn't know. They didn't know. It was 2007. Yeah. So at the time, absolutely. So funny. And even their little bit about, you can't pick, you can't pick up the phone. He's like, but it's Jules calling. Yeah. She could be a ditch. She's like, she could be a ditch. I'm flirty about Jules. but Does she have a shower phone? I hope.
00:23:17
Speaker
Yeah, like he went there in the privacy of their office. Yeah, in the privacy of their office. Yeah, because what he we we talked a little bit about their weird dynamic after the e-dating episode. I wonder if he he probably would not have made that joke out in the real world. Yeah, true. like too yeah He probably would have kept that under wraps. Under wraps, or just quietly over to Guster.
00:23:41
Speaker
Another thing I thought was interesting in that scene is that Zapato is like the first judge who's named. Zapato. Yeah, like both of our conspirators, which is, spoiler alert, one of whom is Zapato.
00:24:00
Speaker
But like they are like named and introduced like really early. Oh, that's a good point. Yeah, they are. even like later when Zapato's at the police station with Carlton. like Carlton will keep an eye on him. like they They're brought to the forefront like quite early in an interesting way.
00:24:19
Speaker
yeah ah and even the now yeah they really they really really set up very clearly like the two of them yeah either the you know we see bevin's necklace like very clearly on his neck yeah and even just the idea i mean to skip ahead a little bit but like when bevin like they come out they're standing there for a beat and then bevin sings and they're like oh Let me go talk to this guy, with person yeah which is like very silly, but at the same time, I feel like it works because that is so Sean and Gus to just be like, all right, let's go follow. Like they're just yeah kind of like, again, them in the
00:24:59
Speaker
Uh, we keep going back to them in weekend warriors in the vault where it's just, they're just like, no woman they just meander. And that it always gets them a lot of info. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh my gosh. So funny. I loved Lassie interviewing the different people. Yeah. Especially cause he was pretty like detached. This was interesting along the lines of.
00:25:24
Speaker
As we discussed in Scary Sherry, you know, Lassie was very separate from this Scary Sherry storyline and we really didn't see the two storylines converge, which we usually do in a psych episode. But here it was interesting because They were doing two separate things, but on the same case at the same time, which was like kind of fun. Yeah, well there's another little, and like it's interesting because we have seen like Jules go to Shawn and Gus for help because like something's outside her scope of power or whatever, but this was like the police did bring in Shawn and Gus and then Nigel's the one to say, I don't want that sitter. Yeah, what did he say about his hair? His like ice cream. Oh yeah.
00:26:10
Speaker
Oh, was it like an ice cream cake mold or something? Yes, ice cream cake mold! So specific and bananas. So silly. He makes them really fantastic. Yeah. I bet they had just a blast.
00:26:25
Speaker
Oh my, I can only imagine. I can only imagine. And so watching this, I guess it never, I guess I just didn't remember that Tim Curry was Nigel, St. Nigel. Like, I guess it just never stood out. I know. I feel like I don't even. Right. Cause he's just. We probably watched it before we knew who Tim Curry was. That's a great point. Nigel's just Nigel.
00:26:48
Speaker
Yes, that's ah actually a very good point because when we get to the really skipping ahead, when we get to like season seven with the Clue episode, for a minute I was like, oh my gosh, like why? They got Tim Curry all the way in season two, why didn't they get Tim Curry now? But he, I remember he had a bunch of health things going on. I was like,
00:27:10
Speaker
Could you imagine, even so early on, they already were having there their childhood heroes in the show with them. me It's just so great. I'm sure they had an absolute blast. I can only imagine. Okay, so yeah. So then Sean and Gus end up getting taken on by Nigel St. Nigel, but they have to do this in a very undercover way. like He doesn't want everyone to know that he has people looking so good. Actually, the whole opening of this episode, it felt like it moved so fast. so like It was so great. The way we go from my
00:27:46
Speaker
I don't know, we're watching the show. He's in the office. And then it's like, I have a plan. And then we're auditioning. Like, it's just like, what? We're on the show. Yeah. Yeah. It flowed very well very from like one to the next. Yeah. It's just like, we were just like hitting the ground running. Like, it was so fun. Which is like, when you think about like, this is us coming back to the season too. Like, we've had, you know, probably months without Psych. And like, OK, we're back, baby. Yeah. Here we are. Let's go.
00:28:15
Speaker
So they get into into the audition room. yeah well because so and And there's like a reveal too because they they need to be under the radar and Sean's like got a plan.
00:28:28
Speaker
there And then we basically cut two. They are auditioning as a duo. Which is so with them. she be So like, and nobody would question it. Oh oh my god, no. Even lastly, they eventually get pulled into the the interrogation room. Also an amazing moment.
00:28:49
Speaker
because they were there. And lastly, it's like, what are you doing here? And Sean was like, we're, we are auditioning for the show. We're on the show. And lastly, I didn't even question it, which is like, all right, get out of here. Go. Yeah. And also that great moment of like, they've, because that's after the, the latest sabotage. Yes. after So then the police get involved because it's happened here. And they bring in everybody who's like at the show and then Puz is like, are you sure? Like still ask her like, do you really want like, are you thank you i you sure? And then Lassie's like, you know, being so mean to Buzz and then he walks in and it's Shawn and Gus and it's just so cool. It's just you're so good. It's so fun. So, so fun. I can't even. Yeah. and therere
00:29:37
Speaker
Just all of it. It's nice to see all of the pairings back together and all of the the little interactions. So true. It's so nice.
Character Dynamics and Season Speculations
00:29:46
Speaker
And especially after, like, you know, I wonder, hold on.
00:29:50
Speaker
momentary pods. Sure. In the world of Psych, do we think they also like had a hiatus kind of a thing? Like there were other cases in between the end of season one and the start of season two, or do we think like this is the next, this is the next case?
00:30:09
Speaker
That's a good question. I mean, I think that there must have been other cases. Right. Okay. Because I feel like this, this is why I was thinking this. Because the end of Scary Sherry felt so like, like so wholesome and like, you know, as we've said. Yeah.
00:30:26
Speaker
And here, all of a sudden, Lassie's a little like hard again towards Shawn and Gus. And I'm kind of like, hmm. I feel like if it were right after that, we might be a little bit. That's true. A little bit more open to the antics of the duo.
00:30:44
Speaker
Yeah, because he was like coming out of scary Sherry with him like, yeah, kind of not wanting to be that cold, that Goochberg version of himself. yeah But he is pretty much, he's pretty Gucci and we can have like, this should like, like our body count will like also assess Lassie's Gucci-ness. I want a shirt that says, that's so Gucci. Oh my god, I just like her. Yes, that is what I want. Did you see, I did put up the... I saw the Guitsberg in the last scene. You can do that same picture of her.
00:31:25
Speaker
Oh my god. Actually, in the actual picture, she like has her hands raised, but I had to cop it out. But I feel like that would be perfect. Gucci. That's pretty. Yeah, so Lassie is being pretty Gucci. And mean we do go through spells like within the show, like the periods of the show, that we do get to see where like ah Sean and Gus aren't getting as many cases. So like maybe even if time has passed and they have worked cases, like maybe not that many.
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah, no, they've definitely been, and they don't, they don't really play it up too much yet, but eventually we get to the point where they talk quite a bit about not having cases and therefore not having any. So yeah, maybe there was a period in time where they weren't maybe around quite as much. And therefore Lassie has, I don't know, become a little less tolerant. Yeah. And it could also be like the situation because this is Gus and Sean at their like,
00:32:22
Speaker
most annoying. Like if you're Lassie, like this is like, oh my gosh, like really these guys, and these guys work with me and they're, oh geez. And he like doesn't know that they're involved. So like, he's probably thinking like, oh, now they're gonna weasel into this. You know, that's a really good point because I actually Even though it's mentioned in the beginning, I feel like, at least for me, it was very easily forgotten that Lassie wasn't really privy to all of this information. Well, and we do have a lot of episodes where they are supposed to work together and he doesn't want to. So it really is not that different where he is. Actually, for him not knowing that they are involved, he's pretty nice to them, really. Yeah, that's the point. Later at the hospital, when they show up, they're like,
00:33:09
Speaker
Oh my gosh, that's true. I'm not overly perturbed about Sean jumping in and helping a little bit. Oh, that's a great point. Wow, maybe there really is quite a quite a change to Lassie here. It's just the circumstance is a little different. so i mean Since we were talking about it, let's also just maybe we can just get into like his whole thing with Emelina. Emelina. Yeah, I can never say her name right either. Yeah. I also like wrote it a bunch of different ways, but I landed on Emma.
00:33:39
Speaker
ah iomi Oh, there you go. First I was like, El Molina.
00:33:46
Speaker
So let's go back to the audition. So Sean Spenstar and Gusty T. Chauviz audition for American Duos, the extra T is for extra talent. You were wondering. And this audition, I was like, guys,
00:34:04
Speaker
this is supposed to be semi realistic. It's like, they're both I mean, they are talented. I wrote that down. It's like they are both actually such great, like singers and performers. And also when you think of like, Gus is like literally in a singing group, or was and so like, he would know one would think ah yes, what other sounding but maybe I mean,
00:34:30
Speaker
If you, one thing, if they like went from the police station to the audition, like with no time to prepare at all, but like, but I don't know, maybe they procrastinate because it's gotta be what? The next day. Yeah. I mean, if that, it might literally be the same day. Well, it is nighttime when they go <unk> one television when they go to the police station to get the case.
00:34:54
Speaker
because they were watching the show. Oh, good point. Good point. Yeah. So it could be the next day, like the next morning. So they have some time to like work on things, but maybe they just don't. I mean, I guess it would be very them to just like go get tacos or whatever and not think about it until they get here. Well, this was also their song that they performed at the colleges. Yeah. Which maybe that's the thing is like they haven't done it since they were Oh, good point. Nine. They're a little rusty. Because like Gus singing the wrong verse and everything. Like they just have like the idea. Maybe that is it. Maybe like they're so confident that they have it in them that they do not like even rehearse at all. That's very American Idol of them. So that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, you're right. Just be so confident. It did feel like, yeah, like the the audition more than anything was just a parody of an American Idol audition. Oh, absolutely. And I bet they had
00:35:44
Speaker
a fantastic time doing it. Oh, I can only we imagine Gus playing the guitar. Oh my gosh. Take on me. So funny. The whole thing was great. And you can tell The judges too. So we have Nigel St. Nigel, Emelina Safran, and Zapato. I didn't get his last name, but Zapato is what they at least call him. Yeah, he mainly goes for that. Yeah. There are three judges and you can tell the three of them were just like disgusted by this whole thing. So funny. I mean, fair enough. It was not good. It was.
00:36:27
Speaker
pretty horrific. yeah I mean, Emelina even took her shoe off and tried to eat it or something. It was such time. But I feel like it kind of similarly to what we saw in the early American Idol audition, which I thought was kind of interesting. Like I i thought to myself when I was watching the American Idol that we watched, I was like, some of these people would not have gotten through the later seasons of American Idol. And I kind of thought the same thing here. that
00:37:00
Speaker
You know, Emelina was like, absolutely not. You guys should not ever sing or perform in front of anyone ever. Zapato didn't get the opportunity to talk. And then Nigel was like, no, you'll be, you'll be great. Like it's fine. Don't. john And he does present it in a fun way where he's like, we cannot even comprehend. Like you guys are just beyond. Which like, if, if Nigel or Simon Cowell was going to approve somebody like that, it would be like they are seeing a future that the rest of us just don't even get. Yeah, and no, it's it's a really good cover yeah for for the whole thing. Especially if he's raw talent in there. Correct. And especially if he's supposed to be like a producer.
00:37:42
Speaker
like Simon is in American Idol. Yeah, that's kind of his job is to see the undiscovered, deeper talent beneath the you know beneath surface. and and Something that I also thought was really funny was you know in the American Idol episode, we got this whole like montage of excuses.
00:38:02
Speaker
that people had for like not performing as well. I was thinking the same thing. I wrote that down. Just excuses is one of my notes. I had a dairy heavy jamba juice. and So good. Yeah, it really does. I think you're 100% right. It really does feel like they just parodied this first episode of American Idol. I mean, there's a lot there to to play. Oh my. Yeah, it was a gold mine.
00:38:31
Speaker
The other thing we have is our Ryan Seacrest-esque host with the very 2000s hair. Literally just, yeah, they went, again, they I mean, it's like, everybody's like a carbon copy, except for Zapata, I guess. Except Zapata, yeah. Which Gus does make a point of pointing out. Right, you're right. That's why it's different. Zapata is Hispanic, so it was different.
00:38:57
Speaker
Yeah. And the with the Ryan's the US guy, I don't even remember what his name was, but. Lance or something? Something with an L. It seems reasonable. Nigel called him a daft punk, which I thought. A daft punk. Which is, I was like, such as like, they just put a reference there for no reason. yeah yeah I guess so. Yeah. I wrote that down. I was like, oh, daft punk. Okay.
00:39:23
Speaker
yeah They are all, I mean, the Jamba Juice reference in a couple of moments. Sean ends up referencing like two different dance movies when they ask Jules to to be their choreographer all over the place. Speaking of... Oh my gosh, I know. She's so cute. Get her dancing off the side and then Sean will smile as he's watching her. It's like, adorable. He loves her. He loves her.
00:39:53
Speaker
So a lot of great names in this episode, obviously, Bevin, Renny, Llewellyn, big one, Rance, Cade, rancade and his brother Chance Cade. What choices? Yeah, just a lot, a lot of fun ones. Les McEwen.
00:40:14
Speaker
I wrote a couple other ones and I think there were, yeah, some really, some really hysterical names that they pulled out. I i really think they were just like, what crazy names would we hear from all around the country? honest true And they got it. They got it right.
00:40:31
Speaker
So they head out. Do they first head out to the trailer? Yes, correct. Is the first sabotage the trailer? Well, the first one is while they're in the audition room and the light falls on him or next to him. Oh, yes, yes. And then they end up in the trailer. I think the the trailer one is when the police get involved.
00:40:57
Speaker
Okay. Because that's very specific, I guess. To him, yeah. It's targeted. Where it's, yeah. And like, McGlasey makes a point to say like, it's attempted murder. Right. Whereas other things are, could be maybe accidents. Right. Yeah, they did say that in, when the light fell, the host said it could have been any of us. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So that, that makes sense. Or the other thing is very pointed, which also That whole moment with the like when he takes the cigarette case and he's like, this case, as if the case caused it?
00:41:32
Speaker
But it's not really, like it's just the fact that he's holding something metal, right? Is that right? Yes, I think that's all it is. okay The way he presented that was like, like am I missing something? Oh, as if the case was the reason why it was happening? Yeah, like somebody tampered with the case itself, but not really, right? No, no, no. they They tampered with the electricity and the but gasoline or just water. I couldn't even tell.
00:41:57
Speaker
Oh, probably just water. Yeah, actually, now that you said, I always kind of assumed it was gasoline because of like the fire element, but then you're right. And you see the electricity. So yeah, I guess it was just this water. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah. and Oh yeah. Cause it's just, so there's just like a live wire basically in a puddle of water. Correct. And we see like a hose, but it looks like it could also be a like yeah gasoline, but I think it is just water. I think you're right. So we're, we're outside after the,
00:42:28
Speaker
ceiling light falls and nearly hits Nigel St. Nigel, though it could have theoretically hit anyone. And Nigel goes back to his trailer. Shawn and Gus go out there, I guess to to discuss with him or just to say, hey. And in the process, Nigel is about to smoke a cigarette.
00:42:49
Speaker
And Sean knows is the live wider, the live wire inside the water. Try saying that five times fast. And takes Nigel, St. Nigel's metal case and throws it into the water, causing a fire or some form of electrocution is essentially what would have happened. And Nigel, St. Nigel freaks out, passes out, in fact, from the shock of all of this.
Comedic Suspense and Plot Development
00:43:16
Speaker
And this is, like you said, when Lassie intervenes because attempted murder.
00:43:22
Speaker
Oh, this is also when there's some great Jules lines this episode. Yes. This is when Sean asked Jules to be the choreographer and she says that she's only ever danced at cheer camp for two weeks, but she had to leave early because suffice to say I don't like wires who steal nail polish and then pass out when you slap them a little bit on the back of the head. Yeah, I feel like that was like the most interesting character detail we have ever received about Jules. Like it is so specific. It's like getting cinnamon festival specific. yeah And like it's, she's like a little, she's wily. Like she's like very, very competitive.
00:44:01
Speaker
Yeah, true. It feels like we're getting that competitive edge of Jules right from the start. And then we see it a little bit later when she is choreographing for them. in her Yeah. And also like, again, with like the echoes of Scary Sherry, like we're like, she is like, too into this. Yes. Yeah. And this, you know, we said this at the end of, or somewhere in our Scary Sherry episode, or maybe it was, I don't remember, we said it at some point in time, that these two parallel. But the reason that these two, these two episodes have to parallel each other is because, you know, we might have forgotten what has happened in the recent episode because this was early 2000s TV where you couldn't just binge everything all at one point in time. You really had to um kind of just remember what was going on or there had to be a marathon on. So this was kind of a nice way to segue us into the rest of the season and it worked.
00:44:56
Speaker
it works so beautifully. It feels like they're doing something new. who While still reminding us of what just happened. I mean, it just, yeah, wonderful totally. They did such a great job. And yeah, like you said, the the very like Jules is too into this. and We really felt in the scary Sherry episode, like when she goes too deep undercover. Now it's just she's being a little too competitive about this thing that we know Shawn and Gus are not gonna win anyway. Yeah, it's like she's I mean, cause they are undercover. Like it's like by proxy, she's like doing. She's undercover by proxy. Yeah. She's living vicariously through them absolutely it' undercover scenario. Absolutely. Oh, and I love the line in that moment where Jules is explaining this and Sean's like, I guess my heart vibes are down. Oh my gosh. Because he is, he saw her dancing on the side and, and like said, I'm getting, I'm sensing that you are a dancer. Jules, we need to step it up.
00:45:57
Speaker
Literally. But she's like, no, no, not me. So she comes around. And fairly quickly. I mean, the two of them were just like, hmm. She was like waiting. I mean, it's like one of those things where like, you know what? It's an SNL character, right? Where she's that that Christmas character who's like, don't make me sing. Don't make me sing. Like, that's the vibe of Jules. It's like, don't make me dance.
00:46:23
Speaker
But ah really, she wants you to make her dance. She wants to, yes. And thank goodness, because this seemed like so much fun for Jules. Oh, and then we get the Lassie interviews. Yes. And Lassie does not remember Zapato, doesn't even know that he's a judge on the show. And Zapato goes, look at me.
00:46:43
Speaker
He does the mo whole finger action too where the, you know, you're switching eyes with someone. I'm watching you. And Lassie says to watch out for him. And then we get the lovely Emelina Saffron and their whole, their whole vibe. It's something else. It is something else. Cause it is, it does feel kind of Goochberg, but if Goochberg was like a much younger version of herself yeah and was actually interested in Lassie. Right.
00:47:23
Speaker
Because they don't really get along, but they kind of get along, and they don't really like each other, but they kind of like each other. Yeah, well, original like initially he like can't stand her and he finds her like disgusting, which I'm curious if he has and maybe we can like watch and another thing for us to watch, but like if he has like a hero complex of it, because like even like you know thinking way down the line to like who he ends up with, Marlowe, yes who was also kind of a you know in trouble with the law and all these things. and like and How Lassie later talks about Emmalina when she's in hospital, he's yeah misju you know like, Which is also interesting because he can be very black and white about people.
00:48:06
Speaker
um and also like In criminals and like thinking not really about you know why somebody might do something but more just about like the letter of the law and so for him to be like seeing Emelina as like this whole person, why, yeah like how she ended up in this situation and he's become very sympathetic to her. I don't know. There's like very interesting things going on. Yeah. We're going to have to keep an eye on it as we keep an eye on 50 other things. sure because If he doesn't really do that to many other
00:48:44
Speaker
characters in the season, but then does it to say Marlowe down the line, which it definitely, I feel like he kind of does. Yeah, it feels like maybe he's just a little bit more willing to think about people as people when they're possibly going to be a larger part of his life. eat Individuals, o doesn't really seem like he thinks of them as people, if you know what I mean. yeah Just as lawbreakers.
00:49:14
Speaker
And he seems quite convinced right from the beginning that Emmalina might have something to do with this because she has an assault with a deadly weapons charge. Right. Which again, that's another example. like he He has this data about her. I mean, he's allowing that to keep her in a box in his mind. Yes. Yes. Influence what he thinks about her.
00:49:39
Speaker
She ends up just being left there, doesn't she? She's kind of like in the interrogation room. Yeah, she's holding her. Yeah, which like this poor woman, I mean, she definitely seems like she her life is kind of all over the place. Yeah. and All she's asking for is her bag, which I don't know if that's because she has medication in it or- Yeah. Did we ever really find out why she wanted it so bad? No. She just is you know very very happily kisses it when she gets it back, but that's all we- all we find out. But I don't know, you know, maybe she has something in there that's valuable to her. Yeah, totally. Who knows? Yeah, just want because like the way it is presented, it kind of seems like something, like maybe critical evidence is in that bag or something. Maybe it's our red or red herring of the... Maybe, yeah, maybe it is. ...the episode.
00:50:31
Speaker
And then, so while she's hanging out in there, and then Vic, Vic is like telling Lassie like she doesn't really seem like stable enough to have done all this, but Lassie's convinced. And then I think from there, do we go back to the hotel with Nigel in the sandwich? Yes, the sandwich.
00:50:56
Speaker
Yeah, so Nigel's now in his hotel room. He's left his trailer, which was, you know, possibly attempting to kill him and goes to his hotel room where he has a standing order for a tuna niswa sandwich, which we mentioned about like 17 times. What even is that? I attempted to Google it and I was like, I don't know how to write this. I have no idea. Let's, let's, tuna niswa. I think it must be two different words. Yes. Tuna niswa sandwich. Here we go.
00:51:24
Speaker
tuna niswa sandwich. Okay, I'm going to type in what is because they're giving me recipes. I guess I could indicate what it is. What is niswa made of? Okay. Traditionally made of tomatoes, hard-boiled eggs. Oh, niswa olives. Okay. And anchovies or tuna dressed with olive oil or in some historical versions, a vinaigrette.
00:51:48
Speaker
okay So it is all of that stuff with tuna. yeah I wonder if it was like somebody involved with the show, maybe that's like their favorite sandwich. so they just like I feel like that is totally what it is, knowing them. and james yeah Like maybe this is what Tim Curry actually eats.
00:52:04
Speaker
Oh, baby. They were like, we're gonna put it in there. It's your favorite sandwich. It has to be there. So he has his tuna niswan sandwich. And as they're walking into the room, Sean just happens to see some other room service down the hallway.
00:52:21
Speaker
that is also a sandwich with little swords in the top of the sandwich as some like decorative things to hold the sandwich together and when Nigel opens his cloche to reveal the sandwich he does not have swords but toothpicks and Sean takes this to mean poison.
00:52:39
Speaker
It feels like Sean is kind of in maybe a difficult position and maybe he's feeling like the pressure a little bit because I feel like both in this moment and in the cigarette case moment he doesn't come right out and say what he thinks. Like he really has to, like he's making deductions and he thinks that he's right but I feel like he's not sure and like he struggles to really say like don't eat that sandwich it's poison. Like he's like he kind of dances around it and then it's like he has to say it. Yeah and in a in a weird way for Sean too, right? Because he is kind of the master of dancing around it so someone else can figure it out so that he seems like he's psychic, but he doesn't even do that in this instance. He's just literally and unable
00:53:25
Speaker
to say the words don't have that. And maybe that's part of it too. It's like, it's just a completely different dynamic for him because usually he's solving things that have already happened and somebody's not in danger, you know? So like he can be like, Oh, these things. And then like, let somebody else piece it together. But this, it's like, there's real urgency. Like his life is at stake and he's right in front of him. That's a great point. Yeah. So he does really need to be much more speedy. He really can't take the time to double check his deductions. He just needs that. Yeah. I mean, I guess he doesn't have to be right. Like it's more like if he doesn't say it, then something bad could happen. But if he's wrong, it's not the end of the world. Right. But yeah, but he, knowing him, he wants to be right. Oh, of course. And he doesn't want to be. Say something wrong, but it's like, if he doesn't say it,
00:54:22
Speaker
Right. Nigel could die. Nigel could Nigel was very close. Yeah. Essentially the whole episode. Yeah. He is like, means a second away from death. We're an episode where nobody dies. It's pretty gnarly. It is. I mean, possible electrocution, possible poisoning.
00:54:44
Speaker
possible explosion who and then possible light hitting them. And yeah, and later, like a true scare, I feel like, just like truly chilling when Emelina does get to her hotel room and there is just a silhouette. Yeah.
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Skylar's shaking her head and saying, no, no, no. Which is exactly what I put, like, no thanks. yeah No thanks in all caps, is what I put. Well, yeah, it was very, um you know, we we discussed in our Scary Shari episode how neither one of us are really horror-efficient others. And that moment I was like, no, no, no. Well, that is like... Like of all that, like even when we were watching, um, black Christmas, like when, uh, miss Mac, yes when she was in her mirror, it was like waiting for somebody to be in the mirror behind her. Like that is such a, such a scare. yes And like you, ah you expect it, but ah it's, I mean, it's horrible. Like when you walk into your own bathroom, I feel like, you know, like that is the fear. Like that's somebody who's going to be behind you.
00:55:53
Speaker
in the shower, behind the curtain, just the silhouette, and then everything about it i was just so bad. Terrifying. Yeah. And she's like a vulnerable character already. Like, yeah I mean, what we know about her, like, yeah. So very scary. Yeah. yeah we Very, very scary. Yeah. And especially her, like,
00:56:16
Speaker
So she sees, she sees the silhouette behind her and instead of being like, Oh my God, a silhouette behind me. She thinks it's Nigel because her and Nigel sometimes hook up. So she goes towards it and the guy rushes through the curtain and tackles her. It was so scary. it was scary So scary. Yeah, it was a, it was a very.
00:56:38
Speaker
a very intense episode. Yeah. Considering. But, but also like it goes down pretty easy for us to intense that it is because it's like so silly. but it Yeah. Like, I mean, it's perfect psych. Like is that, that line that they tell. No, it's true. They, they've,
00:56:58
Speaker
And Sean talked about Sean. James Rodea Rodriguez spoke about this and how it's kind of like their niche. It's the horror or the scary kind of gory comedy mix. And they do such a great job of making it digestible, like all of it. So yeah, very good instance of that.
00:57:25
Speaker
Yeah. I would just like to note that we got our first. No. Which is like a a Tim Curry joke, but we get those so that much. That's so funny that like in our world it's a Tim Curry thing, but I guess in Psych it's a Nigel joke. Oh my gosh. It's like an inside joke about someone they personally know. Ooh, I hit my finger.
00:57:47
Speaker
Oh my gosh, that's the end. Can I jump to it? Can I jump to it? The other joke that I was like, okay, so it's an inside joke about Nigel. So is the the blueberry. I was like, what? In my mind, it was always Sean because Sean seems everything. Nigel has. It's Nigel.
00:58:13
Speaker
which makes sense because like when as best friends you meet an absolute like moon like Nigel is like of course they have like a of course make an impact like that on like your inside jokes which is so funny amazing I mean because I'm that may not have even been like an and intentional thing to capture but it yeah really does it was perfect well absolutely I feel like I've been incarcerated in a blueberry
00:58:41
Speaker
and so good So and you know, yeah, because that again, it comes back to this whole, this whole idea of like shared history between yeah of them, right? Yeah, we're like seeing it in real time. Exactly. Them build up all these yeah you silly references. Like personal lore.
00:59:00
Speaker
Yeah, or like, you know, when they say like twins have their own kind of language, I feel like it's the same thing with siblings or things. You, you just have so much shared history to reference. And we can see that in Johnny Guess, which I just love. Totally. So good. And what I loved, I loved the, did you write down the Prince reference? Because I also thought that was so funny.
00:59:23
Speaker
they were Just again, back to how many things can they reference in an episode? And to the point where, again, they reference these things, if you get the jokes, it's hysterical. If you don't get the jokes, you're like, ha, that was funny. So speaking of like, I was watching this at what, like age 12, 13, like a bunch of stuff right over my head, yeah but still a great time.
00:59:50
Speaker
Yeah, like the Prince reference, like what we refer to probably did not have an extensive knowledge of Prince songs. Right. But now I'm like, oh my god, so funny. Yeah, so like the more we watch it, like just the more the richer it becomes. I love that. Yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker
Okay, so we, okay so the sandwich, and I i love the moment where Sean, like, kind of, I don't know how to put it like he kind of makes fun of himself in a way where he like, like Gus asks him how he like recognize that the sandwich.
01:00:28
Speaker
oh was it from the hotel and he's like so funny it had 86 or like all the all the buns from the hotel at 87 sesameses or something like that and shawn's like and gus is like really and shawn's like no no no i love that if you can't spoof yourself how can you yeah and i love that gus is like Really? like like He's bought in. Which we have home and yeah we've had moments like that. like I feel like really early on where, oh, I'm thinking of the wedding episode. Forever Hold Your Peace. Forever Hold Your Peace, yes.
01:01:04
Speaker
um where like Sean has that moment of like oh you need the remedial course like and points out everything that like led to his deduction yes to Gus like those moments are fun so and they do that little pointing gag where they like go oo and point at each other ah yeah they do that a lot too yeah Yeah, there are a lot of really good like setups for the rest of it. Yeah, like isms are like coming in now. Like the we get the good jumping in the bathroom. I love that meme. I said that all the time to the people in my life. And then we have a rehearsing iconic scene. Iconic. Jules and her her Pepto-O-Bismol pink again. Oh my gosh. Yes. Which even that like kind of a little nod to that. Oh, yeah.
01:01:55
Speaker
It's a scary story. It's a scary story, yeah. I also like that in this episode we get Jules and Vic being the only ones who really aren't convinced that Emelina is behind everything because like Sean is like, well, they already have somebody in custody. like we don't need to try that hard. And Jill was like, I wouldn't put all our eggs in Emelina's basket. Yeah. And I wonder why, I wonder why they were so willing to just accept Emelina as the answer here. Yeah. Yeah. Cause a lot of times Sean is like, you know, very
01:02:30
Speaker
committed to the truth. But yeah, and very skeptical of yeah things being too easy almost. But he seemed to to really yeah kind of fall for it here, which is fine. Although he did well. No, that's fair. Maybe he just didn't want to rehearse.
01:02:48
Speaker
He's one of Jules, this like crazy version of Jules. Yeah, he didn't really know what he was getting himself into to be fair. Yeah, true. He thought she was just going to be a little cutie about it. That was very intense. yeah She goes on a whole rant about how they have to they have to really be serious about this. They have to feel it here and here. Your heart gap.
01:03:10
Speaker
yeah I don't want it. Yeah, you don't want it deep. I'm like, my god, Joel. And then we go back to the hotel room with Nigel and Buzz. Oh, yes. Nigel gets to have his like, cup of noodles or whatever. I love Buzz. And I made a note, Buzz is always getting exploded. He's been... Oh my god, this is such a good point. He gets exploded like... So many times. At least one more time. That minimum. Is it only two? I feel like there's more.
01:03:39
Speaker
But um yeah i mean really, he has a lot of near-death experiences in general. This is his second season.
01:03:48
Speaker
He's already had a second near-death experience, poor guy. And he will have at least one other one, although I'm sure there are more. Yeah, I'm thinking of, well, the explosion. And then I'll mention it because I was also thinking of it with the guy in the shower. But one probably the scariest like visual from Psych for me is in, is it Mr. Yang presents? When Abigail is getting kidnapped. Oh. And Buzz is standing there staring at her and then he falls down and behind him is- It's so funny. It's so funny that you say that. My brain literally went in this episode. I went, does Buzz get like hit from the back and fall forward because that image
01:04:33
Speaker
he seared in my brain. It's traumatizing. It is. It's really quite traumatizing. I mean, it is. Yeah, terrifying. Yeah. That's like real deal scary. So there's another, there's another near death experience. I mean, my God. Yeah. a Poor Buzz. Poor Buzzerson. Through it. He does. So it's him and him and Nigel St. Nigel. Yes. In the hotel room again. He's been given food again. And because he couldn't have his tuna niswa sandwich. Yeah, this time all like packaged. So can't be.
01:05:08
Speaker
ah The water is packaged. The cup of noodles is packaged. And he pours the water into the cup of noodles, puts it in the microwave. And Nigel and Buzz both seemingly realize that something is burning, something like smells amiss. So Buzz knocks on the door. And as they're sniffing the air, Buzz turns to the microwave and realizes, oh, it's counting down. Something bad's going to happen.
01:05:35
Speaker
pulls Nigel St. Nigel out of the room for the entire wall to explode. I know. Harrowing. It's really quite... quite kind of crazy. And Nigel's just on the ground. I actually found it quite funny. Just like on the ground. Laying there Buzz is like, you okay? Yeah, Buzz is quite calm about it really. Buzz, I love Buzz. Maybe he's a pretty even keel guy. He is just so like happy go lucky. Yeah. He's like, you good? I'm good. Okay, we're good. So they decide with all these attempts on Nigel's life to bring him to none other than Henry's house, which
01:06:14
Speaker
Yeah, great choice. Which, yeah, in the way Sean says, like, we need a safe house, like we have to go off the, I forget everything, but it's like they really have to go off the beaten path for this. Yes, off the beaten path. And that is Henry's house. Which I feel like they do that kind of other times too, like Henry's house is the safest place in the world. Which is so interesting considering, like I wonder if Sean would have said that as a child.
01:06:45
Speaker
Aww. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if Sean would have said that as a child, because as we've discussed, they kind of have a falling out later. in Yeah. Not really an emotionally safe place for Sean. No, but he is so willing. Uh-huh. Or maybe it's not in a necessarily an emotionally safe place, but it's a very physically safe place. like you know Yeah, that's true. They don't have to be the same thing. Yeah, people are safe. like henry we Henry will protect them no matter what. I wonder.
01:07:12
Speaker
And in Henry fashion, he makes them all T-Bone steaks all the time. i mean
01:07:20
Speaker
This is just such a funny evening. like so It's such a great meeting of minds. As were building this, I was like, okay, we've got to get Henry and this guy together. like yes They're going to be magic. And they are. And I also love Nigel keeps calling him Horace, which is so funny. And the little back and forth that they have,
01:07:50
Speaker
hysterical. I'm crying. It's so funny.
01:07:55
Speaker
Nigel's a big smile the whole time. He's having a wonderful time. He is. I feel like they could have like an enemies to lovers trajectory. totally good hen and niitel They totally could. totally could. There's something quite magical there between them. There is.
01:08:14
Speaker
and and like I was so impressed with like the food and like Henry's bathroom, which also is funny because we've been seeing Henry like embrace, you know, a more, uh, or like the less masculine things and stuff. So like we're kind of seeing that here. Yeah. Yeah. Someone who also likes the pampering. Yeah. It's his exquisite, what are we called it? Fluffy robe. I feel like an angel baby. An angel baby.
01:08:42
Speaker
And then he said some other things that I didn't write down. but so Yeah, just so, so hysterical. And then Shawn and Gus being on the other side of the table, just like kind of watching this go down, but also having their own scene. like yeah Well, and it just, again, it feels so familiar. I think that's the thing. It feels like this could be a Thanksgiving dinner with your family. oh my god Everyone has their own little weird things that are playing out. You're just letting it happen because it's all kind of entertaining. yes Yeah, too good. And then Henry gets mad.
01:09:21
Speaker
at Nigel, St. Nigel, because he's criticizing his food. He wants him to take the robe off because it doesn't deserve to wear the robe. And again, we get Nigel going, no. And Sean's like, I'm pretty sure he's going commando under there. And Henry gets so upset To be fair, I mean, kind of rightfully so. yeah I don't know how I would feel about that. Nigel is, ah yeah, he's taking liberties. He is. Where he perhaps should not. He's being very bold. He's being very bold. But maybe considering celebrity, he's just like, I can do whatever I want. Well, maybe. Maybe. I suppose I could see that.
01:10:00
Speaker
Because I was going to say, how could you walk into somebody else's house who's protecting you from possible death? nearno experiences And then just be like, I'm going to go commando in this guy's room. Maybe he did on purpose because like he wanted Henry to be like, keep it because he does love it a lot. You know?
01:10:19
Speaker
That's a really good plan. It's a really good plan. Yeah, very smart. Henry gets mad and Sean pulls him into the other room and Henry mentions the robe code violation. This is also in such a funny scene. They're so close. Their faces are like are inches apart. I'm like, why did we need this shot? I mean, I guess they're whispering. Maybe they don't want to be surrounded by their guests.
01:10:46
Speaker
But it's funny because they're like really stage whispering. like It's quite loud and like oh they're yeah so close together. We're essentially shouting. and we don't We don't cut away. We don't go back to dinner, do we? we just hell They have this argument and
Reflective Moments and Episode Resolution
01:11:00
Speaker
then we're done there. and Then we're done. Well, because Henry leaves Sean with some very sage wisdom as he often does. It's that time in the episode where Henry has to frame it all up for us. It's true. Tighten your focus. Who does he victimize the most?
01:11:16
Speaker
And then we get the attack. umina Oh, yes. I do want to say, and like with American Idol everything, like watching American Idol, like I can see like why you would watch that and be like, this would be a great premise for how you've done it because. Yeah.
01:11:33
Speaker
a Simon failure like it could be anybody which is the running thing in this episode and what Henry rings up is like I want to kill him you know and even in the beginning like Shawn and Gus are like you know Gus is like I kind of want to kill him too yeah yeah so that's what yeah and Henry's like okay who is the most his biggest victim yes and we really we really see that full fledged at the end yeah I feel like we got pieces of the quote unquote, who is the biggest victim. Yeah. But he just lays it on thick. It's really it actually is really funny. Like that kind of sells it. Yes. The fact that in the end it's like more funny to him that this is hysterical. He literally was laughing. Yeah.
01:12:18
Speaker
Which I agree does definitely make it seem more, ah more accurate. Yeah. Okay. So we go from dinner to Emelina in the shower curtain moment. She gets attacked.
01:12:32
Speaker
terrifying And then, oh, and then I just thought this was really funny in just like a structure way, but like we cut to Karen relaying all this information. It's like, it almost feels like a newsreel or something like that. We just cut to her and it's just like an expo exposition dump for what has happened to Emelina telling Shawn and Gus.
01:12:58
Speaker
and Yes, and and this is the point where Nigel's like, if she's out, I'm out. I'm not doing this by myself. Yeah, he's like, we need to stop, right? Yeah, we need to stop. And oh, his name is Lester. There we go. Oh, okay. Lester Beacon.
01:13:16
Speaker
sure sure oh oh no that has nothing to do with it for some reason i went beak and sea crest i see it i went i don't i don't know what that's amazing save time like spiritually yeah like i do see it i guess i'm thinking like my brain This is okay, this is what my brain did. Beacon. Lighthouse Beacon. Sea Cress. No, I'm with you. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, thank goodness. So Lester's like, no, we gotta keep going. She's already been in the hospital three times this season. Don't worry.
01:13:55
Speaker
And then we cut to, which possibly my favorite scene. Sean and Gus are very stealthily walking down the hallway to Emmalina's hotel room. Back to the wall. Back to the wall, like real spy stuff. Inching long. Inching. And Gus goes, Lester Beacon sure didn't seem to broken up about Emmalina. And Sean goes, sure didn't, plus his hair. I was kind of waiting for the, it's horrible.
01:14:24
Speaker
I actually rewinded because I like did he say it's horrible? And they hear the elevator ding and some commotion down the hallway and they wall splat themselves up onto the wall. Not only that, but with these most like conspicuous faces like
01:14:51
Speaker
well The mobility scooter goes by. It's bananas. They're such goobers. They're just scuba. Yes, and it's this very old man on a scooter. Oh my gosh. So slowly. So slowly. Goes down the hallway.
01:15:10
Speaker
And then the way they just both lie, like, once he's gone, it's like they just escaped death. He's like, oh, that was a close one. Just so hysterical. Just like absolute bonkers. But why we love the show? They're just such gamers. And then they get to the door and he's like, oh, no guard. and Gus is like, what? That was why we did this? You thought there was going to be a guard on Emily in this hotel room?
01:15:39
Speaker
when she's not even there makes sense. So they go into the scene of the scary shadow crime. check yes Yes. And They were looking around, and to be quite honest, Sean literally walked in and just went, nothing here. I was like, what? Sean. He's quick, man. Yeah, I guess you know time is of the essence here, as you said. That's true. And by sheer happenstance, as happens very much in Sean's charmed existence, he turns off the light and there is a shiny rainbow that appears.
01:16:12
Speaker
And we realized the shiny rainbow is coming from something being reflected in the toilet. So he goes over to the toilet and finds a charm, which we've seen that charm before. We've seen it on Bevin Renee Llewellyn. But because neither one of them wants to stick their hand in the toilet.
01:16:38
Speaker
Which, mind you, is clean. There's nothing in there. There's no excrement or anything. But it is a toilet. But it is a toilet. Because no one wants to dig their head in their toilet, they call Jules and make Jules do it. Which is so, which is absolutely profound. Just to leverage Jules in this way. No. And like, they're like, Sean's like, I got it. And he calls her.
01:17:03
Speaker
having a vision basically, that's something, you know, and bring gloves. Bring gloves, yes. So specific. And when she'll come and does it, and she's like, wow, that was post really good, Shawn. That's amazing.
01:17:16
Speaker
Well and especially I wonder too if especially as we we've made note of this like juxtaposition to how he's been getting his psychic visions maybe she was like oh yeah you really you're spot on yeah yeah well every once in a while she is very impressed and like and he's very impressive yeah he really knows how to weave the weave the psychic story yeah so we get the charm and Jules takes it to be I suppose analyzed or determined what it is. So Sean and Gus decide to go to see Emelina with a pineapple in the hospital. And this is what we see last year. It's real. His true feelings towards Emelina. Yeah. At her bedside waiting. He's going to be there when she wakes up. He seemed very like the only word coming to my mind is tender.
01:18:17
Speaker
That's what I put in Lassie's tenderness. And like, even Sean's like, that's very gentle. Yeah. yeah like yeah
01:18:32
Speaker
She like wakes up. She says, look at me. And he goes, he's like, I'm here. I'm here for you. And she just slaps him. Amazing. they And then like goes back to her, come on.
01:18:47
Speaker
which do we think this lassie slap was because like why do we think this lassie slap happened because it felt very like jarring yeah like whoa a slap and then later he says she punched him right like we don't see it but he references her punching him or something yeah something so maybe you know emilina has lived some tough things. So maybe, and you know, she sleeps outside a lot. Oh, that's fair. Maybe she's used to being just like on defense. Yeah. That's her knee jerk reaction. That's fair. Yeah. I could see that. I mean, if you woke up and somebody was crouching over you, also she just had a violent attack. Oh, that's also fair. So she's just, yeah, maybe she's just fighting like strange man. but yeah and We do find out later. She doesn't even know his name.
01:19:37
Speaker
yeah he is kind of strange guy And she also had like five different reference names for him. Yeah, so many references, which is so funny. ah And she's like not super lucid, but she's got all these in her back pocket. It's in a Rolodex of references. I do love the first one, like when he first walks in, she's like, Mr. Bean! As if that's who he is, which like that I believe, but she like actually is seeing Mr. Bean. That's fair. Also, I would be so excited if I saw Mr. Bean. like Sure.
01:20:12
Speaker
So, and then, oh, Gus calls, because Gus is doing research. Yes. Because they, they saw, they realize it's Bevin, right? Yes. And so Gus is researching Bevin. Yes. Like researching um yeah American duos.
01:20:29
Speaker
When Sean tells him to find, like it says, did you find him? I guess it's like, I found him and found him and found him and found him. Cause like that one guy in real American idol, that had been running well and was going to all the different cities, but he was throwing it so that he could keep going all the different cities and uh, like, yeah, kind of weird.
01:20:54
Speaker
Very, very weird. Yeah. Yeah. And like super weird behavior. And it's interesting that Nigel later is like, Oh, that guy, like he knows that it was him yeah all over the country. And yet yeah that didn't raise a red flag. Yeah. Like at least in American Idol, which is reality.
01:21:13
Speaker
and Not scripted theoretically. They didn't actually quite realize until the third time. Yeah, like the guy like we've seen you before, right? We've seen you before, right? ah Yeah, and another place too. Oh, which I feel like is more, like makes a little bit more sense. Yeah, that makes, yeah, you're right.
01:21:31
Speaker
bed and um Oh, and then Sean kind of has the realization of like, look at me, is Zapato. And Gus sees that there's a picture of Bevin and Zapato together on Zapato's website from when he was a kid. Yes. So we know that they know each other. Yeah. And we see, which is interesting.
01:21:52
Speaker
Because we talk a lot about like the POV of flashbacks and stuff. And what we see is Emily's perspective of Bevin's shirt that has Zapato on it. And so that's why oh yes she she like does the look at me thing. So that's interesting, because like talking about perspectives, like kind of weird that we get hers. Or maybe it's Sean imagining what she must have seen. Oh.
01:22:21
Speaker
Could be. We'd have, to yeah, we'd have to go back and see. I was going to say, yeah, we'd have to go back and see if we see Bevin with his Zapato shirt on or not. Yeah. Or maybe he's like making a a leap of like, okay, she, maybe she saw that him in that shirt or in a shirt with him on it. Yeah. could be Yeah. I guess. Which I mean, would make sense too, because we do see.
01:22:52
Speaker
When he starts talking about Bevin doing all of these things, we see what feels like a flashback but must be an imagination of that doing yeah yeah yeah that's true i think i would track yeah okay wow he's like hypothesizing it's fun yeah it's a glimpse into the way sean thinks through it all but i i did love that moment like with the phone call and like us seeing the picture of levin and him being like oh my god and like because i feel like i mean it could feel
01:23:23
Speaker
silly, like the way it all comes together, but they really sell it like their reactions to how it all comes together being so like earnest. Yeah. whoa Yeah, it works so well. and It's like the perfect like coalescing of all of the information at once. and Again, our title makes total sense for the killing because the title is American Duos and we have two killers. Two killers.
01:23:53
Speaker
and even the way like Sean talks not Sean Gus talks about it in the beginning when they're first when he's introducing the concept of the show Kind of and he's like they have to like be on the same like yeah, whatever Yeah,
01:24:07
Speaker
it's true no one actually dies that's fair yeah, but yeah, yeah, and then okay, so then they reveal all this at the taping and yeah
01:24:20
Speaker
I love Gus walking out there with Sean and he's like, you're in the presence of a homicidal sociopath. Like he says it's so... Yeah, he's really having one of those moments where he's like, he wants the good line. yeah it's's exact That's exactly what it is. He wants the good line. he does yeah Yeah, he does it like three times. And Sean's like, yeah, uh-huh. He's just trying to deliver the information. yeah We gotta get this over with, okay? I don't want to have to protect this guy anymore. And they tell them that it was...
01:24:56
Speaker
Bevin, Rennie, Llewelyn, alongside Zapato. And this is when Nigel starts like laughing. and is Absolutely roasting him. So rude to him. Like, i just him? He can't even speak. And he's like, yes, I can. He's like, you're two feet away from me. And he was killing me. Yes. I mean, to be honest,
01:25:23
Speaker
But just hysterical when you also see Zapato being held back by guards trying to get at Nigel. Oh my God, too funny. like Yeah, Nigel's just laughing. He's getting quite the fruit out of us. And then we're we're we've got two judges no longer with us because Zapato's been arrested and Emelina is involved. So that leaves just Nigel.
01:25:52
Speaker
Do the judging. Which, yeah. He needs his foils, but... He does. The show must go on. The show must go on. And it does! With Sean Spenstar and Gus TT Showbiz performing their flashback performance of Shout.
01:26:10
Speaker
Shout. Let it all out. In there. Exact same uniforms from before, but just now it's all versions. And I actually thought they were fantastic. They're so good. They legit sound amazing. They are so good. They were so good. And they like, you could tell they were taking it very seriously. Yeah. And Jules is back there like doing the moves. Like, yes.
01:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, she was in it. It was, it was great. And I thought the production quality was like, wonderful. And they very clearly seemed rehearsed. And then Nigel just laid into them. And I was like,
01:26:46
Speaker
oh Like they were really good. Maybe it was like all the pent up frustration of having to spend the last week or whatever it was with them. And also he had to like let them through on that horrible audition. So maybe maybe he yeah he was just like done with them and wanted to tell them off. That's fair.
01:27:12
Speaker
and You know, I don't actually know what the show American Duos is like. It's not like we got sure much of a view into it. but At least from what we saw from our, um, the Cade, Cade brothers performing, they were very in sync, like harmonizing, like kind of meshing together. And this was certainly, it felt like ah less of a meshing and more of a mashup, yeah you know what I mean? Of like two separate things. can true Maybe Nigel was just like, this is not what we're going for and needed to really tell them.
01:27:47
Speaker
in a very mean way. Yeah, which that's, that's how he rolls. Yeah, yes nigel he doesn't hold any punches. so like it is But such a good app is like such a great way. I did feel that that ending was like so bright. I totally agree. I was waiting for there to be like another flashback or like one. Yeah, like suddenly it was over. Yeah, it was just all of a sudden. But You know, maybe they're just leaving us wanting more. Maybe that's the idea. Yeah. Wants to come back. I can see there was so much packed into that episode. There really wasn't time for anything else. No. I mean, really, every chance they got, they... They put something else in there. Reference or a bit or another possible attempted murder. Yeah, I know how many. That would be an interesting count. Just how many attempted murders we have in this episode alone. Oh my gosh. Well, at least
01:28:47
Speaker
Well, so there were references to two before we even met Nigel, non Nigel's life. Then we had the light, then the electrocution, then the possible poisoning.
01:29:04
Speaker
Then the microwave and Emelina was attempted murdered. Oh yeah. Then is that it? Maybe that's it. Seven seven attempted murders. I mean, that's a lot of ground to cover. It is a lot.
01:29:21
Speaker
Wow. Man, and in like different cities, theoretically, they they did two of these beforehand. I mean, a lot. Yeah. Man, oh man, good for them. However, our body count remains. Very bad at it, yeah. Remains at 17, no additional murders.
01:29:39
Speaker
So zero on the season. Yeah, zero on the season, 17 overall. Oh, this is going to be quite the cute track out now. I'm going to put this in the, in the document. We need like a spreadsheet. We do need a spreadsheet. Our next episode, I know we were both very excited for it.
01:30:00
Speaker
65 million years off. Oh my gosh. Such a good episode. And I know we say that all the time. Every, every single time. But this is, I feel like it is just really an iconic, like scary Sherry, iconic episode.
01:30:19
Speaker
Yeah. and But in like ah a more subtle way. where In a very different way. Yeah. I agree. But I think we talked about like it's just pure psych. It is. It's like pure preposterous, goofy, fun. Yeah. We get to see Sean like challenged a bit, which adds something, I think. and We get to see some good you know references to the shared history of Sean and Gus. Absolutely. Which is amazing. We get to see some great running.
01:30:50
Speaker
Oh, so very some of the best running. Yeah. Some great Henry. hu Great Henry. Some really fantastic bits. I mean, just a ah great episode. Oh, and some rivalry, too, between our duos. Oh, Yeah. grew true Yeah. I'm excited. to it Oh, we're going to have to have some peaches or something, too. Oh, yes. Let's get some fresh fruit. Yeah. We'll get some stone fruit.
01:31:18
Speaker
Whatever is about at this time of year. It might be peaches. I feel like peaches. We can get our hands on some peaches. Alright. We have a very like, slurpy episode next time. Yeah, maybe we should put it in something though. Peaches are a bit messy. We could do a drink again.
01:31:35
Speaker
Oh, we can do a Peach Bellini. Oh, that's a great idea. Let's do Peach Bellini. Okay, great. and Okay. We'll find our recipes again, and maybe we'll put them on there if you'd like to join us with Peach Bellini. All right. All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. And if you enjoyed hanging out with us for this hour or so on a Tuesday, make sure to join us back here next time when we'll talk about season two, episode two of the FAME TV show site.
01:32:05
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