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156: Stede Bonnet: Pirate and a Gentleman?
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Ahoy, mateys, shall we step onboard this cryptic ship? We have had some rough seas on the Podcaster vessel this week, so we apologize for the delays! So let's talk Stede Bonnet, famed pirate extraordinaire. Kelsey does a deep dive off the plank into his story, and we are along for the ride!
So does he live up to his infamy, worthy of still being depicted in games and tv shows like HBO's Our Flag Means Death? We hope so, and the only way to decide is to tune in and tell us what you think of old Stede. Next week we will conclude with Alanna's pirates. Oh and did we mention Blackbeard has a cameo??
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Welcome Back to 'Castles and Cryptids'
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That's Famous Last Words, part of the Darkcast Network, available right now wherever you get your podcasts.
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All right, all right, all right. Welcome back to Castles and Cryptids, where the castles are haunted and the cryptids are cryptic as
Balancing Busy Lives and Podcasting
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fuck. And I'm your host, Alana. I'm Kelsey. And we are back. At least hopefully by the time I'm saying this, we are back late August for you, maybe a little later than we intended. I was on yeah holidays and and yeah, then we were like, we need to record. um Yeah. Yeah. Life gets in the way, you know. Lives are busy. Hectic. Yeah. Those damn paying jobs are like really hard and take a lot of time and effort out of you. Yeah. But you guys are real and we're always happy to be back. It was funny, my brother knew I was going out to visit and then he said some like,
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Oh, I didn't know you had an episode coming out this week because I kind of forgot you pre-record them in advance. And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got the last one done when I was home and then it came out while I was there. And then more like no new episode the week after that. But then as it happened, it was like, oh, shit, no new episode after that. Yeah, we just gave you a little dark cast.
Movie Outings and Theater Experiences
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um Pali Pal instead. A little spotlight to tide you guys over until we could record and come out with our regular episode. episode
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Exactly because you want us to be at our best and then it's always nice to be able to feature one of our our peers because they have something seriously really cool shows on our network so. Oh yeah always adding new people to it seems. Yeah I will let you know which one we picked and we'll talk about it on the actual episode so by this time you'll have heard it already but yeah timey wimey it's coming at you.
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Oh my god. And then after this... Well, tomorrow at the time that we're recording this, I'm finally gonna get to go see Deadpool with my dad. No, I haven't seen him either. I'm so excited. Everybody's been telling me how good it is.
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I know a couple people have seen it more than once. So I was like, okay, we got to go. I was like elected show times. I can do this day. I'll buy tickets. Do you want to go? He was like, yep. No, it's like, okay, I'm going to do it. We're just going to do it. It's been like almost- Yeah, it's like the end game now. yeah and We're in the end game now. No. Yeah, I think Pat wanted to like, oh, on a whim, like we should just go. when And this was the weekend that came out.
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I was like, if she can like maybe see if there's still seats or whatever. And then he looked at some showings and was like, oh no, like there's nothing together. The one girl I work with, she was like, yeah, when we the theater we normally go to basically almost every, for sure like, oh God, when did they go? They went on a Tuesday night.
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like oh so like maybe the only first tuesday after the weekend it opened or something no they went like just this last week just a few days ago they and because every time they looked at chillings everything was already booked up all booked up everything yeah damn really hard to get into it sounds like so yeah we're not used to that after like post pet panini, you know, where people are like, Oh, are we going to the theaters again? And then like, for a really good movie, people are like, Hell yeah, we are. We're all going. Yeah. I can't even remember the, I know I went with in the last year or so to see something, but I cannot remember what it was even. Oh, really? Barbie. So Barbie.
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I watched one of my trips, finally, on Disney Plus. It was funny. I liked it. I enjoyed all the Ryan Gosling Man learning. My job is beach. My job is beach. It's not lifeguard.
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I'll beat you off. Well, if you beat him off, you have to beat me off. I'll beat both of you off right now. That was pretty darn good. And like Margot Robbie is just perfect. And like, yeah, Ryan Gossel is scooper funny. And I was just like, okay, i didn't I knew it was good. Everyone said so. And by the time I got around to it, finally.
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um damn I feel like if you if you go into it intending that you're gonna get mad about some of the stuff that they're trying to say with the movie you you can easily get mad about it but if you just take it for a comedy and they had fun doing it and I don't know I don't think it needs to make people as mad as everybody's trying to make it out like they weren't trying to change the world but this movie okay and no no it might just cut out there. But yeah, I heard you guys like no, it's it was tongue in cheek for sure. And yeah, just had some funny moments. And then yeah, some ones that you were like,
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hot damn a Barbie if a Barbie did come into the real world they would be shocked and shook it yeah oh yeah and it's pretty awesome yeah and then i was like oh i'm a big matchbox 20 fan wait they're all gonna sit around and start playing push i'm like they only chose to suck because people always say oh it's good such problematic lyrics and i was like I think he wrote it more about how he felt in a relationship, not how he wanted to push someone around in a relationship. So I was just like, whatever. But it was funny how they all like start playing it.
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I was just like, um oh my god, I'm going to sing along. I want to see like all the behind the scenes and everything of that movie. I'm waiting for it to get like a little bit cheaper and then I'm going to buy the DVD or at least check first to see if it has like, because I watched some of the behind the scenes, like I think Vanity Fair or Oh. Is it like architecture magazine or whatever that does like? I don't know. They do like walkthroughs and stuff. They ended up doing a walkthrough of like the Barbie Dream House. But you don't buy magazines. Is this online? No, this was like a YouTube video. Oh. Yeah. I don't buy magazines anymore either. I used to subscribe to like People and Us Weekly. So I don't know where I am getting on my high horse, but. But it's so cute.
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Margot kind of like took them through the whole Barbie dream house and everything. And oh michael you got to see stuff in a little bit more detail. So i yeah, I want to see that kind of stuff like behind the scenes or or bloopers. I'm sure bloopers would be hilarious. I don't know how hell stuff they kept a straight face.
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like Yeah, especially with like the jokes. Yeah, and I'm sorry, everyone's like, am we saw this so long ago. But like, the jokes when you're like, I had a Barbie, and then she's like, goes to put water, like drink her glass of water or whatever. And then the real world, she's like, Oh, I'm not used to there being actual water and anything. Yeah. And it just like falls all over her face. I was like, that's amazing. I never knew I needed this version.
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right? Accident, just I picture how many takes it took of her or how many times she probably accidentally got water up her nose. Like she's pouring water into her own face over and over again. Yeah, how do you not flinch when it comes at you when you're not expecting it? Oh my god. Go up your nose and you just start coughing or something? Like how does she do that?
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She did a really good job. Um, and then, uh, not to tangent too much, but the other thing after we watched that.
Diving into Pirate History
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Oh yeah, probably after we watched that or after we watched Lego Batman, cause rain wanted to watch that one. It suggested the Harley Quinn animated series and the rain just like fell in love with that one and just like binged it. oh je Yeah. It was kind of cute. I don't know. I enjoyed it, but.
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Anyway, that's some of the TV we were watching, among other things. Nice. Anyway, we do talk about other things here. as Just sometimes I derail it. So do I. I do know that too. Oh. I know, right? But we are going to talk about Pirates this week. I'm excited. Yeah. ah That's a new one for us, I think.
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Right? Which I can't believe it's taken us that many years to to talk about pirates. We love pirates. I know. I'm i'm realizing how like kind of history obsessed I can be when I'm like, oh, we have a chance to talk about like this weird thing that happened. This person we don't know a lot about. There's some yeah cool, cool pirates will definitely do this again.
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Oh yeah, I think so. There's a
Podcast Challenges and Pirate Tales
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lot. It's really cool. I managed to talk about one that, you know, became friends with another one. So then I had to talk about that one a little bit. That's just how it goes. Yeah. I also have no idea who you're covering.
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No, because I think you had just told me who you were doing and then I was like, okay, I'm going to see her clear of that and then. Yeah, I tried to pick it. I was like on vacation, like I should at least pick what we're doing, like who I'm covering because I haven't gotten nothing done. Yeah. Yeah. So that's basically all I did for a while. Which is funny because mine actually is like one pirate that kind of became friends with another pirate. So it's funny that it happened in both of ours.
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oh gordo you can't have attention right now you can't multi-cast in that fashion while recording it's like but mom you look so cute yeah we need a gordo cam so you guys can see the the big puss in boots eyes he gives me Fenrir was the same way the other day Pat's like oh I started kind of getting ready to fix the deck steps and then when I was back here then he was doing it because he needed a little bit of help with some of it and Fenrir was like but I need to come outside and then we're like but can you just stay inside because we're fixing the steps and then he like gets outside and he gets downstairs and then he's all like
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No, I'm stuck out here. And he tried to go back up and this there was no steps for him. Of course he did. I can't. They were like, really, buddy? This is why we didn't want you outside. I know. He's going to be like on top of everything. But then eventually he just settled down. He just laid in the in the gravel, rocky area by Pat doing the steps and in the shade. Comfortable.
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Okay, he settled down Jesus yeah, you're just like this is why I didn't want you outside I know and he was out for a bit then I let him in Then I had to go in for something and he was like you're letting me out again. I was like, oh shit He's gonna get all up in Pat's business, but he's not gonna take no for an answer. Yeah Cuz we always let him outside right? So with then when he's not allowed inside or we're like we're in the front yard or something He gets really pissed off yeah yeah pets right send us your pet photos yeah um I think but on this one
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ah I think Resso, your sister, for sure will love this. I think you had told me before. It's all in the open ocean. I think it should make Happy her little sailor heart. Well this one too, because at least my case, because I think you mentioned to me like once upon a time that she was watching Our Flag Means Death.
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Oh, she loves our flag means dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That one talks about Steed bonnet. I thought about covering him because like I did. I decided to. Oh, okay. That's why I'm mentioning it. Not just randomly mentioning our flag means dad. No, but that was my second choice. Okay. Anyway, sorry to interrupt. Yeah. the The gentleman pirate as he's commonly known. That's so cute. It's like the gentleman train robber.
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Damn. I was like, this is fun. He came up from my lesson. I was like, oh damn, I wasn't even in thinking of him at first. I had like- Did you watch that show? I watched season one. I haven't seen season two yet, but I know it got canceled. um Which normal? I don't know. I normally like less invested in watching the last season of a show. We're trying to get caught up when I know that like now there's no timeline of having to. I don't like to get too attached if there's if they're not going anywhere. I'm like, damn, it's already canceled. Okay. Yeah.
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yeah No, I've seen a couple. I haven't seen all of it at all. And maybe not all the first season, but I definitely watched some because I heard it was funny and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah I remember really enjoying it. So, yeah, right after you watch season one and then finish finish the show and watch season two. Yeah, I was just like, oh, it seems overwhelming. Like this guy seems like well known. I was like, I'm scared. There's yeah, there's not like a whole whole lot in that.
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like information people seem to have like a lot in there but a lot of it's like minute details and that kind of stuff where it's like yeah oh we need to go into all of this not not for an episode but if somebody wants to research more there's certainly a lot more out there um yeah yeah i like to hit that middle ground where it's like just enough that you're like you yeah like i like when people make me interested in something but don't bore me with all of the the details and the minutiae or whatever.
Life and Times of Steed Bonnet
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Yeah. So Steve Bonnet, who later became known as the gentleman pirate, was born 1688 in Bridgestown, which was a colony of Barbados. Okay, 200 years before me. That's all I remember.
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long now be be 300 years before you this was 1688 so you're right i was born in 1888 no it's like are you a vampire what are you what are you trying to tell me no I guess I'm just very stupid after a long day at work. When did we last record? Oh my god, sorry guys. I'm i'm rusty. It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah, like ah at least two weeks. I don't know. Oh my god. ah So their parents were wealthy. um
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English. ah There was Edward and Sarah Bonnet, and they owned an estate of over 4,000 or 400 acres. And it was a ah sugar plantation, which Steed inherited after ah the family, like the father died in 1694. Oh, Edward and Bella. No, I'm just kidding. Edward and whatever.
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Edward and Sarah. Sarah. I'm sure most of the family did, but Steed received a good education and lived as one of the richest and highest members of Bridgetown society, along with his two sisters. Didn't run across their names or if they were older or younger.
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Not really sure. Yeah, that'll happen. They're just women that are related to him. They have no rights and no value in society. Here's just a footnote. Yeah. ah Bonnet, who at the time was 21, he ended up marrying the daughter of another plantation owner. Her name was Mary Allenby. And they got married on November 21st, 1709.
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Dang, winter wedding.
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ah Bonnet, at some point, had served time in the military and ended up holding the rank of Major in the Barbados militia. Wow. Yeah, he had done fairly good in the military. um Didn't really like read much about it or run across anything that talked too much about his time in the military. Okay, no, I didn't know about that.
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Yeah. Uh, Steed and Mary ended up having four children together. Um, they had three sons, Edward, Alamy, and, uh, Steed, which I think, it didn't say Junior, but he's probably a Steed Junior. And then they also had a daughter that they named Mary. Um. And was the second son named after her maiden name? Or did I? Yeah. Wrong. Okay.
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yeah it's like they reused his first name and then her first name and last name and then they used his father's name so it's kind of nice i like that kind of stuff yeah it's they like i get trying like the honoring of people using like a grandpa's name or whatever i was just like wait are they just like not very creative either it's like maybe not i named my kid peters i'm just like but well
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Maybe you can be Peter's Peters. ah Pumpkin Eaters.
00:19:09
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yeah Oh my god. On a totally different note that's super depressing to talk about right after that joke. Oh no. Their son Allen B ah died in 1715.
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Peters, no! I didn't know yeah as a child he died. Yeah, like I didn't have years for when any of them were born, but um by the time he goes off to become a pirate, it said all of the kids were under the age. Where is it?
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Oh yeah, by the time he decides to leave a couple years later, there all the surviving children are under the age of five, including Edward, who I think is supposed to be the oldest. And Allen B was the second oldest. So yeah, he would have been like maybe three, between two and three when he died. Oh damn. Yeah. Oh, pardon me. Bonnet was...
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ah Also named Justice of the Peace in 1716. No way. Yeah. the Because Stephen Bonnet in the Outlander books is like straight up the criminal bad guy. I don't know that he's a pirate, but he's a fucking asshole who's done above sexually assaulting and maiming people.
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oh Despite the ah lack of sailing experience, Bonnet ah just like suddenly decides to leave his wife and all of their surviving kids behind and ah decides to become a pirate in the spring of 1717.
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he Okay, but like just sort of out of the blue? It seems like he at least like kind of planned it a little bit in advance because it says he prepared legal papers that would allow his wife and two friends to conduct affairs while he was away um and then he also contracts a local shipyard to build him a sailing vessel which normally pirates wouldn't do so like he had the ship built and then he like
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he gets legal paperwork in order, which is such a gentlemanly thing to do. I would say this is some premeditated pirating. Yeah. It's out of the blue in the fact that there's no follow up in any of the sources from like literally the kid, their one son dying to like he becomes a pirate. That's like the next sentence every time. Oh, no. The backstories are like unclear with a lot of these ones. They're so old.
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i like Well, we think. I did have some cool sources though, including apparently the Library of Congress has like blogs online about certain topics. I had no idea, but they have two whole huge long really compiled like histories about Steve Bonnet, which I thought was really weird.
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ah so some of Yeah, some of my, I kind of took little paragraphs from them because they have some cool stuff like this that um they said the line between privateering and piracy was a narrow one and pirates were often former privateers. So privateering could be highly profitable, but it was only legal during times of war. And when the war ended, the privateers licenses to attack enemy ships expired.
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and many privateers did not cease their activities with the end of the war and continued to attack and plunder vessels at sea. And these privateers were now regarded as pirates by the same governments who had previously licensed them. Oh, is that why it's like, okay, when they're a privateer, but not if the government's like, no, no, no. Yeah, I didn't know anything about that. And I wanted to include it because there is at least one instance Like later when Steed's, like Nirvana's become
The Pirate Ship 'The Revenge'
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like a pirate, he kind of ends up getting one of the licenses from the government and after he's caught pirating and he's like, no, I'm just going to become a privateer. Can I be a privateer? And they're like, yeah, sure. And then he's like, but I'm actually going to pretend to be a pirate privateer, but I'm going to actually going to stay being a pirate.
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Oh my god. So I was like, I didn't really know the difference between the two and I was like, Oh, that's interesting. So yeah, they just were in the lines anyway. ah but Yeah, sorry. So like if privateers are attacking enemy ships and kind of like plundering them, taking them over, taking all their like goods and that kind of stuff and Capturing people they're allowed to do that if it's like enemy ships and during times of war because it's aiding in the war effort But if it's not hard you could just press men into service as yeah so to speak and they're like we'll just take them they look like they're ah strong but Yeah, yeah, damn um So getting to the ship so he can't contracts that local shipyard to build him this ah Sailing vessel which he names the revenge
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and equips it with yeah there's I guess I've heard almost okay yeah I'd also said that a whole lot of ships were like revenge themed names or just called the revenge so that makes sense yeah Now that you say that, I'm just like, wait, is it the same one? Okay. Damn. So he equips it with 10 guns ah and said, or it said that this was unusual as most pirates ah typically get a ship by mutiny boarding it or converting existing ships. They don't like pay to have a ship built and then be like, this is my ship.
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No, I don't think pirates yeah i can really commission things to be built for them that easily. No, normally. It doesn't seem normal. Bonnet then gathered a crew of more than 70 men and requested that they sail him along the eastern seaboard of what is now the US, but due to his lack of sailing, or they said like lack of sailing and then said other than being like a passenger.
00:26:00
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oh So he had been on the water at least as a passenger, but he's probably not paying attention to how you actually sail a ship. Yeah, you're sailing, but you're not actively participating in sailing. Yeah, you're not in charge of anything. So due to his like lack of sailing or pirate experience, he is not well respected among the crew that he is actually paying.
00:26:23
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um He's paying his crew wages as opposed to like normally they would plunder or like take goods ah and valuables off of a ship and then they would kind of divvy that up and that would be like What they make but he's actually paying them like yeah divvy up the booty ah He's actually like paying his crew wages um but He doesn't know that he's gonna have the money, right?
00:26:51
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I don't really know. It's crazy. Yeah. Cause he left like his financial affairs and chart like to his wife. So I don't know how much like is this money he's supposedly took with him and then he's giving up. Why didn't they just kill him and steal his money? ah I already forgot about his person. Yeah. Damn. You forgot about um as no Sarah. No, Sarah's, sorry, Sarah, Sarah's his mom. He was his wife. Oh shit.
00:27:21
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uh his wife is mary i forgot about her too oh there's always a mary or a mary
00:27:31
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Um, yeah, so he's paying them. So that's also weird. Um, initially they stay anchored for several days in the port, um, with the revenge under like kind of a ruse that they're gonna, it's going to be used for Island trading in like nearby. Um, but it ends up departing under the cover of darkness one night. Just slips away into the, out to sea, uh, for the first several months. I don't get into it a whole lot, but.
00:28:01
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They are successful in capturing some vessels. um They burn any of the other ships that are from like Barbados, an attempt to keep any eight news um or word of Steve Bonnet get traveling back to home to his family. like He doesn't want them to know what he's doing. Where was home again? In Barbados. Barbados, right.
00:28:25
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Yeah. They're all up in the Caribbean. Okay. yeah Yeah. Yeah. So he's like, they're burning the ships, anything that, um, if people would be going back being like, Hey, you heard of this guy or heard the name, he doesn't want news getting back to his family. Right.
00:28:43
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The ship sets sail for Nassau in the Bahamas. This is kind of a haven for pirates that's known as the Republic of Pirates. Sounds cool. I want to know more about this place. It came up in mind, but I didn't hear that name for it. Oh, okay.
00:29:04
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on the way Bonnet was seriously wounded during a battle with a Spanish warship. And the revenge was heavily damaged and half the crew wounded or killed during the battle. You kind of have to regroup.
00:29:19
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yeah um After finally arriving in Nassau, Bonnet replaced his crew kind of the best he could with whoever he lost or was too wounded and added two more guns onto the ship. So now they have 12.
00:29:36
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and yeah it's like we need to we need to load up on more ammo and more artillery oh hell yeah especially we get to come up to that one of those like british mana warships or whatever they have a lot of cannons and stuff yeah it's like shit o yeah
Blackbeard's Influence and Betrayal
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um While at Nassau, Bonnet meets the infamous pirate, Blackbeard. That's happened in real life. They didn't make it up for the show, which I thought they made it up for the show, but they didn't. Oh, really? No, I think I heard of him. But yeah, it kind of feels like one where you're like, is that one folklore? Is it real? Is it? Well, I am i knew Blackbeard was real, but I didn't really.
00:30:27
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I didn't really know that they had met and like sailed together and that kind of stuff. And that was like fact. So I thought that was kind of cool. But isn't Bluebeard also like a big folklore? Because he's the one that had all the skeletons in his closet of all the wives or whatever, right? I think so. I think that one's Bluebeard. I'm like, you probably don't know. You haven't been researching that one, but they sound alike. Yeah, no. Blackbeard, his real name was Edward Teach, which is the name they use in the show. He's a real person. He has like his own whole like crazy history. Lots of stuff written about him. Edward Teach. Edward Teach, yeah.
00:31:04
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And the two form an unlikely friendship, as you could say. Sounds like a Disney movie. Fox of the Hand! Okay, sorry. Go ahead.
00:31:21
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from the Smithsonian like magazine also had a lot of good stuff. It said that i love that um just had a little bit of a black beard. I didn't want to get into it because he has a lot of stuff you can talk about. and Born in Bristol, England, Blackbeard had worked his way up from deckhand to captain of his own ship, the 40 gun ship called Queen Anne's Revenge. And he had cultivated a reputation for wildness and unpredictability.
00:31:50
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So a very unlikely friendship with the gentleman pirate. Oh yeah. Yeah, I guess he's supposed to be more reserved. They're like polar opposites. Yeah. Yeah. And these other guys like the party animal. Yeah.
00:32:09
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Because of Bonnet's injuries, he wasn't really able to properly lead his crew. And Bonnet, well, some sources say Bonnet temporarily ceded command of the revenge to Blackbeard while he recovered more. Other things say that Blackbeard kind of like forced him ah into the cabins and was like, I'm just gonna take over your ship and pretend like it was your idea for me to sail this on your behalf and control everything.
00:32:37
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Okay, so more of a coup situation. Just sort of a soft coup. Yeah, I'm just gonna take over power here. There's also things that are historically written of like Bonnet's ship having a really good library in it. So he basically just sequestered himself in there and then just read. And then there a bathtub i'm in and then there was also somebody, a different sailor or something had like these journals that they got a quote from that said that they were like sailing paths.
00:33:15
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And they saw Bonnet just like walking in a bathrobe on top of his shift, just like meandering about. and This was apparently when he was a quote-unquote captive of Blackbeard's. He's just wandering above deck in like a robe. and walking around like it's like okay just in a hotel room yeah yeah just like yeah this is my accommodations i'm gonna go for a stroll so yeah you choose to believe he's too much of a captive or like a prisoner or something stuff right yeah it's hard to say um but together bonnet and blackbeard plundered and captured multiple merchant ships along the east coast and they did this over months it seems
00:33:59
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Then in November, Blackbeard captured a french ah French slave ship, which he took control of and renamed. Sorry, I have to go see what Gordo just did. Oh my god, that scared me.
00:34:15
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know sorry to al people you wanted to deliver interrupt the flow that was of the of the narrative. What was he doing? He was knocking shampoo and conditioner bottles off like the shelves into the bathtub. That's why it sounded like such a loud bah, bah, bah. I was like, it's coming from outside the I could hear him. I could hear him swiping at the shower curtain when he was in the bathroom. You fucker. I'm not even. No, you don't even get to jump up here. Go away.
00:34:52
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It's like the my mom's poor cat's tormentor when she's trying to sleep at night. She's like, they'll sleep till like three and they get up and they're going all crazy. And my sister was staying downstairs in the third guest room that doesn't have a door officially. So they could come in and the one black cat Gabe was always sleeping in her suitcase, which was really cute, but she couldn't escape.
00:35:17
Speaker
Yeah, I have to lock him out because he will he'll jump up on my head for it and then he'll jump like on top of my head. And it's like, what the fuck? Just like WWE wrestling. like to Yeah. Yeah. body slam Oh, Gabe got on top of the, I was sitting in the lazy boy and I'm like, I can't rock it. Now you're going to I thought he was just going to go.
00:35:44
Speaker
ah upper Back of the Lazy Boy, I was like, what the hell? Cats are funny. Yeah. ah Okay. so Now that Gordo's interrupted, where were we now? yeah I'll just start this part over. In November, Blackbeard captured a French slave ship, which he controlled of and renamed Queen Anne's Revenge.
00:36:10
Speaker
And Bonnet then stepped back in as captain of the revenge. So now they each have their own ship. But for like the next few weeks, it seems like they keep kind of sailing together because they didn't part ways until sometime in December when Bonnet and his crew sailed into the Western Caribbean. And time kind of... He was no longer assistant to the regional revenge. Yeah.
00:36:40
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hey And kind of jumps ahead. So this is March 1718. um They encounter a 400 ton merchant vessel named Protestant Caesar. after a failed and After a failed attempt to take control of it, Bonnet's crew became frustrated with their lack of success and Bonnet's failed leadership.
00:37:04
Speaker
and Bonnet and yeah like just kind of noted they didn't really do anything at this time but it will not until a little bit later when Bonnet and Blackbeard crossed paths again um fairly soon after and Bonnet's crew desert him and end up joining Blackbeard instead. Oh damn.
00:37:25
Speaker
They just like switchy swap. Now they're just like, um, yeah, like they had some successes, but it wasn't, it wasn't great. And there was a lot of time they're just like, okay, like we're not, not doing the best. We're not good at being pirates. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:45
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um Yeah, this is another time um where it said Blackbeard requested Bonnet board Queen Anne's Revenge where Bonnet was essentially imprisoned by Blackbeard who suggested that as a gentleman Bonnet would prefer a life of leisure over commanding a pirate ship.
00:38:04
Speaker
and Blackbeard appointed crew crew member as commander of their revenge and Bonnet stayed aboard Blackbeard's ship as a guest. So it's like a second time. So some of the sources say like the first time he didn't take control of the ship and this was the time, but yeah, it' ah it was a little hard to figure out for sure. right So it could have happened twice. like There's always there're always like these and stuff. Like all of this takes place in the court. Like his entire pirating career is like a year and a half to two years. Like all of this so many times. It was the golden age of piracy. I think that came up in my research. It had a short run. Yeah.
00:38:52
Speaker
well fellow Bonnet told some of his former crew um that were on the ship that he was ready to give up the pirate life um if he would be able to exile himself in like Spain or
Bonnet's Downfall and Trial
00:39:05
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Portugal. What? is The pirate's life's not for him anymore? but No, it's not. Damn.
00:39:14
Speaker
But like, what? You just retire? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what the plan was. Yeah. How are you going to support your treasure habit? Your highfalutin ways of living? it Yeah.
00:39:29
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ah Bonnet accompanied Blackbeard to South Carolina where Blackbeard's, at this point, four ships, including the Revenge formed a blockade in the Port of Charlestown in the late spring. um And Bonnet once again took control of the Revenge and the pair went ashore to the capital of South Carolina, which was Bath. um Yeah, they formed this blockade for a while.
00:39:58
Speaker
um i can't remember exactly how long it was like days i think over a week um yeah that'll affect some meals of trade and all that kind of stuff yeah man Blackbeard and Bonnet received official pardons um while they were in Bath from Governor Charles Eden on the condition that they renounced piracy forever. So there's a few different things that I found online. Some things said that Blackbeard was there and received this pardon and other things said that he stayed aboard the ships and that Bonnet was the only one that like went into town and got this pardon. and so
00:40:40
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They seem, yeah, I don't know. They came up a bit like a pardon that people were going for and I was like, sounds like they're just giving it out willy-nilly almost. Come here, get your pardon.
00:40:52
Speaker
yeah Like, nah, I'm good today. but I'll try next week. Right. I think one of the kind of the most important thing is that while they're receiving this pardon, um it seems like Bonnet stays in Bath.
00:41:08
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um and is like requesting clearance to sail his ship against Spanish ships, so like being a privateer. um and While he's trying to do this and get a license to do this, Blackbeard goes back to um his ship and back to the revenge.
00:41:26
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um yeah so
00:41:31
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the He was just like, I'll take that while you're going out to get your part in? Yeah. It was just like, yeah, I'm just going to take your ship. Part in me while I grab this. But I'm full.
00:41:46
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ah Yeah, so Bonnet gets his license or gets this clearance. And then when he returns to his ship, he finds that Blackbeard had sunk several of the other like four ships, um taken all of their loot and robbed the revenge of most of its crew and supplies before sailing away. Like leaving the revenge basically useless. um But sailable. He didn't sink it at least, but he just took basically everything of use off of it.
00:42:18
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Yeah, that's not, there's no gentlemanliness there, that but that's not, yeah, this is the other guy. Bonnet ends up rescuing 17 pirates who were marooned on the sandbar by Blackbeard for disagreeing with his plans. Damn. Yeah, Bonnet attempted to track Blackbeard down but was unsuccessful and Bonnet um decides to not continue this supposed like,
00:42:47
Speaker
sailing against spanish ships and decides like being a privateer and decides i'm going to be pirate again um but he wants to keep his pardon so he takes on this alias of some things said captain thomas um other things what was the name captain thomas or captain edwards um so he's pretending to be a legitimate privateer? No, so he wants to keep the pardon for the name of like Steve Bonnet of being forgiven for being a pirate. So he takes on and continues being a pirate under either the name Captain Thomas or Captain Edwards. So that if he's hot, he can be like, Oh, I
00:43:34
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I don't know what his plan really is, yeah but he's like, I got a pardon. I'm i'm Steve Bonnet. I'm pardoned for this already. and um yeah yeah he'd Yeah. He'd wily his way out of it if he got caught as the other guy.
00:43:49
Speaker
Yeah. And he also changes. So much about the Steven Bonnet guy's character on Outlander, but I won't. Suffice to say he He gets caught in the end. He also changes the name of the revenge to Royal James.
00:44:05
Speaker
oh yeah King James of Scotland and England and all that probably. yeah But they're in America now. I'm so confused. Well, they're sailing all around. Yeah, it's barely America at the time.
00:44:25
Speaker
yeah After only a month or so as the pirate, either Captain Thomas or Captain Edwards, Bonnet anchors in Cape Fear River um to kind of make some repairs. And then in late August or September, this Colonel William Rhett acting on the South Carolina Governor Robert Johnson's orders um patrols the river looking out for pirates. um They were sent there specifically to get get forget us some Yeah, get her some pirates. So scared. Yeah, um, Rhett and Bonnet's ships ended up being engaged in battle for like several hours. I think it's like at least five or six, where apparently even at some point ah Bonnet says that he's going to blow the ship up and kill everyone on it, um including himself before they surrender. And his crew is basically like, no, we're not with him. We don't want to die.
00:45:25
Speaker
so stop trying to make explosion So after exchanging all this gunfire and multiple deaths on each both sides, ah Bonnet's crew like severely outnumbered. They eventually and finally surrendered. I think they wanted to surrender long before that, but it seems like Bonnet did not. He's like, we're going to die. And they're like, we're not with him.
00:45:49
Speaker
ah They're like, you might want to. Yeah, let us evacuate first and then sure you can die. Not the ship they want to die on. Rhett ends up arresting quite a few of the pirates and brings them to chair Charlestown in early October. ah Bonnet was able to briefly escape on October 24th.
00:46:15
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It was kind of a lot going on with that, but he soon recaptured on Sullivan's Island. oh Yeah, nothing like super interesting happens, but it was just kind of funny. There was a lot of tangent stuff you could go with that, but yeah. My dog was just howling inside. geez All I can hear is like, I don't know, the pouring rain that just started behind me. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, it's like pouring.
00:46:44
Speaker
Oh, I hope it comes here. It's been smokey from before. Yeah, it's disgusting. you know What next? On November 10th, Bonnet was brought to trial where he's charged with two acts of piracy. ah In response, he pleaded not guilty but provided little defense for his actions. He did try to downplay the authority he had in his crew and said that he had not ever told them to rob any ships.
00:47:15
Speaker
So I was like, okay. Well, all right then. He's like, they didn't respect me. I'm not a real pirate. Why would these people follow me? I'm an idiot. I'm not in charge. Shaggy, it wasn't me. Just start explaining in the background. Denial. He does get sentenced to death by hanging. And then he, yeah, as is the time. I mean, it's very popular.
00:47:42
Speaker
he ends up writing After his sentence, he ends up writing to that governor, Robert Johnson, asking for clemency and said that he would become a menial servant to the government i if he is granted clemency. And he's like, no, denied. i already We don't need another menial servant, thanks. yeah I already pardon and pardoned you for piracy. Why are you asking for more favors? Yeah, we can pay people a pittance to work for the government.
00:48:12
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um
00:48:15
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There's like kind of interesting because it did say that Steve Bonnet's like trial but is one of the me most documented ones like they have the best or most thorough like record of it and that it's been known to be like one of the most ah historical like i don't know access to like the life of a pirate because it had so many like documented details and everything um which was kind of cool. Instead of it all just being like from one book as kit coming up in my yeah research like this one guy wrote a book and that's all we know about this person you're like okay the um so what do they have the document is called the trials of Major Steve Bonnet and yeah this is where I had it was from library of congress it said
00:49:09
Speaker
um The judge of this court like that sentenced him to death was Nicholas Trott, known for shaping the legal definition of piracy. um The document, the Trials of Major Steed Bonnet, became a foundational document in legal proceedings about piracy and defined piracy as a robbery committed upon the sea and a pirate is a sea thief.
00:49:37
Speaker
Oh, I like that. It's like when you hear someone called a sneak thief, it's kind of a cool sounding name. um But yeah, there's some other stuff I found in the sources that was talking about like, yeah, and this was like groundbreaking that was talked about in the the document or whatever of like details they didn't know about like pirate's lives and their operations and that kind of stuff that they have access to because of this so yeah yeah all the secret information they don't want to get out um to him so steed bonnet he was hanged uh december 10th 1718 at the age of 30
00:50:23
Speaker
Jesus. I know he's so young. In Charlestown, now Charleston, South Carolina. That's right. I wasn't just pronouncing it awkwardly the whole time. No, I know. It is Charlestown, not Charleston.
00:50:41
Speaker
Oh, sorry for me. I was like, no, I'm used to that. Like they, it's, it's still called that. And when they're there in the 1700s in Outlander times. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know when it becomes Charleston, but I definitely refer to it as Charlestown in my notes too. Yeah.
00:50:56
Speaker
yeah I was like, it was so hard to say I was like, Charles, town, make it i so hard. Yeah, because we actually know a lot of state capitals of the US somehow, they make us learn these things as Canadians or else we just watch a lot of American TV. I don't know.
00:51:14
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um Yeah, so yeah, he's hanged. I guess his body along with several of his crew members were left hangings for several days on White Point, um a public landmark, and they left their corpses visible for incoming boats. So like, it I kept thinking of like,
00:51:40
Speaker
I don't know if it's the first or the second Pirates of the Caribbean movie where they go through and there's that little archway and then all those like pirate bodies are just hanging there for like ever and it has a sign like pirates or something on it. That's basically what they did to these guys. Yeah, I think I've seen it in things and it's called like a gibbet or whatever. It's like a hanging kind of like birdcage they're in sometimes. Yeah, this I think it was. Oh, yeah. Like die from the elements or to drown or something. Yeah.
00:52:11
Speaker
Yeah, they staked the Steven Bonnet to a stake and let the upcoming tide get him in the outlet. And he was scared of drowning, so it just laps up slowly. I was like, that's...
00:52:25
Speaker
kind of creepy yeah yeah this it's all horrible don't get me wrong in this one at least he he was like hanged so by the neck until they died so he would have hopefully died quickly yeah it seems like um so him and his crew they were left hanging up there for several days it's like a warning um that was visible to incoming boats um but there's now like this little marker um or kind of plaque monument thing um yeah at White Point that documents the names of many of the pirates executed there um and talks about like at this point or this about area on this stage, Steve Bonnet and some of his crew were killed basically.
00:53:07
Speaker
Dang, no that'd be cool to see I guess. Yeah there are pictures online of the like little stone thing. um After his body was cut down it was buried alongside 29 of his crew in nearby marshland and none of them were given any sort of grave marker or any anything. So he was number 30 and you said he died at 30. Oh yeah.
00:53:35
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I don't know. This is okay. yeah That's a lot of people. I don't know how many of them were arrested when he was arrested, like from the boat when they gave up. Okay.
00:53:49
Speaker
Because like all the thunder is rolling now. I know, so it's pouring, pouring behind me. You said it was, yeah, and now I'm hearing it. I'm like, damn. I wanted to mention this because it came up in one of the things that said Bonnet's execution came a month after Blackbeard had met his own bloody end in the in battle with the British Royal Navy.
00:54:14
Speaker
ah Apparently Blackbeard's head was severed and taken back to port and then his body just like dumped into the sea. So that sounds wild. He took his head back and then dumped his body in the sea.
00:54:31
Speaker
Interesting. Maybe there was like a bounty or something out that they needed ID. I thought that was kind of weird. Yeah, symbolic. Because like they bury people at sea all the time. If you just die at sea, you die at sea and they wrap you up in the thing. And when they wrap you up in the thing and then they put when they sew it up, then they sew the last part through your nose to make sure that you're really dead. They go boop. Anyway, I figured they could start there and start there.
00:55:03
Speaker
Yeah, they could. They could try and poke you with something before they do that to see if they should bother. Oh, I just saw lightning behind you. Really? The whole window just went poosh. I didn't see it. Yeah. It was a dark and stormy night. Yeah. Damn. I don't have to. I wish you guys had the atmosphere. Yeah. Never comes through.
00:55:33
Speaker
um All right, so yeah, historians aren't really sure exactly what inspired Bonnet to abandon his family for the life of a
Speculations on Bonnet's Piracy Motives
00:55:43
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pirate. Some speculate, and they don't really talk about it in the show.
00:55:49
Speaker
um they're just kind of like oh he's gonna abandon his wife and then if people don't know him him and blackbeard fall in love and they in season two they open what i think is supposed to be a bed and breakfast and that's how the show ends it's very different okay nice it's cute homoerotic tones okay it's cute yeah yeah that's why russell likes it so much no i'm just kidding It's got Taika Waititi in it. He's playing back Blackbeard. It's amazing. We know he's sexually free. Anyway.
00:56:28
Speaker
by diggrass Yeah, so some speculate it was to escape his bad marriage or even to recapture his more adventurous youth. According to the legal record, Bonnet borrowed 1,700 pounds, about $40,000 today, um sometime around 1717.
00:56:49
Speaker
This suggests that he may have been having financial problems, perhaps due to our hurricane, drought, or other natural disaster that wiped out um could have wiped out his sugar crop. And what the hell? No one's going to lend me $40,000 today. like Holy shit. What kind of fucking credit score did they have back then? Oh, I'm steep on it. You better do it or else.
00:57:14
Speaker
Yeah. Um, one source, one source said, and I, I knew you. I was like, if she doesn't bring up Outlander, I'm going to. Are you ready? Oh, you know, I already did, but everyone get ready to drink again. I was like, Oh, as soon as I saw this, I was like, Oh, Atlanta will enjoy this. It's, uh, Bonnet was probably a Jacobite and supported James Stewart as king of England over George the First.
00:57:42
Speaker
ah it probably It said actually most pirates would have been Jacobites. so Really? And because he was, you said he was Irish, right? Or no, is that, am I thinking of the character now? oh No, he grew up in, he was born in Barbados and everything. I don't know who controlled Barbados. Interesting.
00:58:05
Speaker
stay Okay. I always think of the Jacobites as just being like the Scottish dudes that fought for the stewards in the land and whatnot. And they are, but like, I guess that's, it was still a colony at that time that you're talking about. Yeah. No, that kind of blows my mind a little bit. Yeah. It was just like off-handedly. It didn't really have much more than both that much. Yeah. i am And that was just one of the sources that just like had that. um So.
00:58:36
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No, I didn't know. And it says was probably. Oh, not like in front or anything, but um okay. My last couple things I have. The first one was from the Smithsonian Magazine dot com website, because they were a good source, along with Library of Congress, Congress blogs. um Yeah, they were funny. I just grew up saying Smithsonian.
00:59:03
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I said Converse. The Library of Converse is the place I want to go. Sign me up. Send me yeah to the Library of Converse. I fucking love Converse. And the free box of the
00:59:18
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ah So yeah, Smithsonian Magazine dot.com for it said, for a few years in the early 18th century, from about 1715 to 1720, piracy experienced a golden age. Steve indeed Bonnet was part of a gang of pirates operating in the Caribbean that were responsible for the image that we have of pirates today.
00:59:41
Speaker
um says historian Colin Woodard, author of The Republic of Pirates. um The popular pirate known, er, the popular pirate as known from Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island to the recent Pirates of the Caribbean movie trilogy was inspired by these buccaneers. But even during their lifetimes, pirates like Edward Blackbeard, Thatch, or Teach, and Anne Bonny were romanticized.
01:00:10
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ah they were folk heroes, said Woodard, though the authorities characterized pirates as devils and demons, enemies of all mankind, Woodard says many colonial citizens supported them and people saw pirates as Robin Hood figures, ah socking it to the man on their behalf. Which I thought was kind of interesting. I wouldn't think like, if like ships are coming in and they're supposed to be bringing like like imagine you live in like a port, as most people probably did in like the 16 and 1700s, you live near port or near to Yeah, yeah. And that's where you get like your food and goods and everything. So if people are robbing, it's like highway robbers. Yeah, um avoid the highway. Yeah. Yeah. Like if people are robbing
01:01:01
Speaker
ships and stuff of those goods before they can get to port and trade them I wouldn't have ever really thought as people seeing that as a good thing or like sticking it to the man like really because they're kind of robbing the ships that are supposed to go into your port so you can buy the stuff like are they just gonna have it you for free like why why are you for them why maybe they end they're thinking of it more like we do now where we romanticize it because it like we feel like it doesn't well it obviously doesn't directly affect us anymore but maybe they felt like yeah yeah i thought that was kind of interesting because i feel like yeah i'd be like wow they they didn't have any like flour today because the fucking pirates took all the flour or something yeah did they steal from the rich and give the flour to me no they did not yeah i get that they stole from me and gave the flour to nobody no probably throughout history we've like
01:01:53
Speaker
oh Yeah, not whitewashed, but you know looking back on them with like rose-colored glasses or yeah how tender I just thought that was interesting. I was like, oh many people like supported them on this up but on This was interesting This was from Library of Congress. That's the only reason I included this because it was a library of converse Yeah, Library of Converse told me so I believe them Skechers agrees
01:02:25
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ah I thought this was kind of interesting, especially because of the Our Flag Means Death show. Oh my god, you're killing me. What is it? Some modern historians and writers have speculated that these reported marital difficulties, along with Steed Bonnet's later association with Edward Teach, the pirate known as Blackbeard, were an indication of Steed Bonnet's sexual orientation being outside of the accepted norm for the 18th century society.
01:02:53
Speaker
So like this is actually a thing. They didn't just like make up it for the show, which I was floored by when I saw this. I was like, oh, okay. ah So he weren't known to be getting with a lot of women that take it. Maybe according to this, according to the Library of Converse.
01:03:16
Speaker
under British rule homosexuality was criminalized in colonies like Barbados in the 18th century and in the centuries that followed. Some historians who study sexuality in this era have argued that same-gender relationships were less restricted on the sea than on land and piracy would have given him more freedom and opportunity to pursue same-gender relationships. Well yeah I can see that just as like ease of meeting and being around a lot of men. on it Yeah, on a ship full of dudes with no women around. I know. Okay, I was gonna say like a prison, but I do think I have a quote that kind of sums that up in mind that I thought was kind of funny. Well, if the choices are going to prison or being on a pirate ship, I'd much rather be on a pirate ship.
01:04:06
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yeah Um, but I, uh, bear versus man person versus pirate ship. But I just thought it was kind of interesting. Cause when I was looking into it the first time, no other things ever like talked about that. They just kept being like, Oh, maybe this failed marriage or whatever. the marriage They're just like, yeah, we don't really know his motivations. It seemed kind of random. And then it was like, well in the show, they kind of do it that like he's questioning stuff.
01:04:36
Speaker
And then it's really close with that black beard or whatever. Well, maybe that like actually has been the case. Like there's literal documentation or like historians have said that this might have happened. Well, it's the kind of thing that it's really hard to know now because it's only recorded history and that's the kind of stuff that was, well, it's punishable by death. Well, let's keep it under wraps then. Yeah.
01:05:02
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um My sexual orientation means death, yay!
01:05:09
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ah Sorry, did that get dark? It did. When I was typing it up, I was like, oh, I want to rewatch the show and then finish it now. It's like, damn it. But yeah, it was the show. Our flag means death, which they're flake, isn't it? Isn't it a fucking
Pirate Pop Culture and Anecdotes
01:05:28
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kitten? It's like a kitten on black because the one guy hand sews it.
01:05:33
Speaker
Something not. Something's going crossbones? Okay. No, it's and something not scary. And then they're like, this light means death. It's like, it's a kitten. Like, so I can't remember exactly. It's, yeah, it's something stupid. They argue about it all the time. Yeah, it was created by David Jenkins, the stars Reece Darby as Bonnet and Taika Waititi as Blackbeard. Which, yeah. Okay, right.
01:06:02
Speaker
Yeah, they will see if you have to watch more. Yeah, good yeah, I wanna I feel like it's it's been at least a year and a half, maybe closer to two years um since I watched season one. So I gotta, I gotta rewatch that and then watch season two. Then I can see if I can catch all the history. Exactly. Oh yeah, that's kind of fun when you know all the references. Now that I know more of the backstory and stuff of their actual like traveling together. yeah oh but It makes it a little more interesting, I think. Yeah, you've watched something you're like, oh, this is based on a true story. But now that I know the true story, I know what's actually true. Yeah, yeah or like ah you understand stuff a little better.
01:06:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully your sister likes it. I was like typing. I was like, Oh, I'm pretty sure Alana said, Reza watch the show too. So it's like, this is going to be fun. I think a lot of people do. It doesn't be pretty popular. And I hope, well, you said it's not going right now, but I'm like, damn it, maybe it's like canceled. Oh, no, I don't want to give up hope.
01:07:20
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It's like, I think long past the time that anybody butddy would be picking it up or anything, I think they tried that. ah Okay, but I always say, Arrested Development picked up like so long after they made jokes about how they look four years older.
01:07:36
Speaker
Yeah, when they finally get rebooted. Well, they're gonna do the same thing with Community. They're getting their movie finally. Their their joke was always sixteen six seasons in a movie and they did their six seasons. They didn't get a movie. So now how many years later they're getting a movie? Oh, that's cool. It was a joke inside the show, like the the one character used to always say, yep, six, we're gonna last six seasons in a movie.
01:08:04
Speaker
Okay, I haven't heard that joke. I had heard about the beetle joke, beetle juice, beetle joke. Anyway, that was really good. I enjoyed it. Um, I guess we'll take a quick break and then yeah, ah I'm gonna blab for a while. Come back for round two. pi So much fun. I love pirates. Yes, it's really fun.
Introduction to 'Creepy Confidential'
01:08:53
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01:09:24
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