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189. Haunted AF: Hospitals
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We're back, did you miss us? This week we have some very creepy hospitals to share with you, one located very far from us, and another much closer to home. Kelsey covers the Clark Air Base Hospital, a sinister building with a violent past, it is no surprise it is said to be super haunted.
Alanna tells us about the Charles Camsell Hospital, featuring first hand accounts from patients and nurses, it's safe to say its complicated history has both good and very dark experiences.
Don't go exploring any abandoned buildings, you may find yourself being tricked by a ghost.
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Transcript
Introduction to Podcast and Hosts
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Darkcast Network. Indie pods with a dark side.
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You are listening to Castles and Cryptids, where the castles are haunted and the cryptids are cryptic as fuck. And I'm your host, Alanna. And I'm Kelsey. And we are back.
Apologies for Missed Episode
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We were not back last week. And for that, we apologize. But I was really busy. So I'll take the... The brunt of that one. The blame.
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and We both were. It was yeah ah lot going on. i know. ah
Escape Room Adventures and Creativity Tips
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did help with an escape room type thing at work and it was kind of fun. and So I that's feel good about that.
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Yeah. And now I have a pen that looks like a little syringe filled with weird blue liquid. So I did get a little party favor. Oh no. Yeah.
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it was very fun. Like the late, um, the coworker there, Leanne who organized it and was just like looked up clues and stuff. So then it would be like hot hidden around their desk. So it'd be like, well, I have keys, but open no locks and I have space, but you can't enter me. And it's like, what am I or whatever? it's like a keyboard. And then their thing would be under there. Yeah.
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Yeah. Their clue would be under there. yeah. That's so fun and creative. Yeah, I was like, i was like, man, i love I love a theme. I love pu things like this. But if you hadn't taken the reins, like, you know what I mean? I wouldn't have the wherewithal to organize it all.
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No, I. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to be creative like that. Like when people are like, write a scavenger hunt clues with, um yeah or write a multiple choice question where you have to make three wrong answers. I can't do that very well. It's not, I'm not creative. My mind goes blank.
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It's helpful when they had some, she had some examples they had printed out of different ways you could make clues. And yeah. what though Okay. Yeah. So I just found one that was kind of easy, like almost like hide it in a paragraph, kind of like,
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the the yeah bold the letters you want them to that's the clue and then they have to rearrange them or whatever so it's something pretty easy like that then I just pick a passage and I was like okay and then ah cool this other lady that we work with was supposed to be helping and and Heather she was just like nope just too complicated and Leanne said she just was like I'm sorry I can't do this part like because she's really good at like baking and crafts and stuff like that she's part of our social club now Um, but yeah, it was, I was like, no, I looked at the other clues, puzzle things you could do and Sudoku. And I was like, nope.
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Yeah. That will work with my brain. Yeah. But I can't, I can barely solve
Puzzle Preferences and Techniques
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a Sudoku puzzle. I don't want to create one. Yeah. Number puzzles are not my thing, but word puzzles I can usually get pretty good.
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So yeah. Yeah. I used to do Sudoku sometimes, but it you got to do that shit in pencil because you're going to race it a thousand times.
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Exactly. oh Or do you like my my dad did. He would. um What did he do? he would figure out first you figure out what.
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uh like obviously there's pre-filled ones so you know like what numbers can't be in what spot so you figure out like a couple of those first where like those numbers can't be and like sometimes you only get one option left for those ones so then he would like do those in pen because he knows like you're not changing that one can't change it's all and then he would basically write for my every number right then he would write every number that was available for each of the squares i think it was it was like so weird and then you would just like erase which one as you eliminated them but then it would yeah i don't know cant thing yeah it was a lot was like no thanks i'm gonna play solitaire on my phone like my mom used to do out on our computer
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I love Solitaire. You can't say that you can't do quizzes because we did quizzes for each other on Patreon. and And you came up with questions. So there you go. Yeah, but they weren't very good.
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Maybe we need to do some more puzzles on Patreon. Oh my god. No!
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That's funny. Yeah, we were just talking about doing some new things on there. So maybe we'll get to that in a bit.
Exploring Haunted Hospitals
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But we should probably tell you guys what we're talking about today. And it's not Sudoku crimes. Thank God.
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but my My eyes would just glaze over. has Has there been a Sudoku crime? I know there's like a chessboard murderer whatever.
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um oh yeah. I don't know. i feel like Whining Crime's done everything under the sun. So if anybody's there, it'd be them.
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um you know Your left index finger crimes. Yeah.
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Ironically, we're not even talking about crime today. It's haunted. No, we aren't. um yeah I mean, sometimes some crime comes along with that, so I shouldn't say. No crimes or atrocities were ever committed in these. ah Yeah, i have I have a bit of atrocity.
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Great. We bring the comedy, the atrocity, and sometimes the history. Well, there's always history with hauntings, so. Yeah, par for the course. Yeah, that's quite a bit of it. Yeah, exactly.
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um but yeah, I do think mine's a little bit of a bummer in some ways. I'm sorry.
Clark Air Base Hospital's Haunted History
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Oh, no. ah Yeah, mine kind of is too I mean, you don't get anything haunted without...
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Having a reason. be like, this place was beautiful and such nice architecture and only happy things happened here. But it's haunted for no reason at all.
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and Well, it's and it's like old houses. are like, definitely people died there because people just died at home. Yeah. yeah Yeah, exactly. Just died of old age or died in their sleep.
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Right. Doesn't always have to be something super bad. No, no. But we don't need to tell you how hauntings work. No. Yeah. Oh my god. no I'm excited. This is a good one.
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Haunted hospitals specifically, which is a specific kind of creepy, really. Yeah, it is. I think one of the creepiest to me. um Specifically like sanatoriums and other ones called stuff like that. The really old ones, of course, which we've touched on some of those before, but the modern ones too. Yeah. Modern ones as well.
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Yeah. Gray. my Knuckled and buckled. Mine isn't too, too old. Like, uh, it's called the Clark Air Base Hospital.
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Air Base? Yeah, because it's a military hospital. Damn. Um, yeah. It wasn't originally called the Clark Air Base Hospital, um but I'll get to it in a second. It's located on Luzon Island, and it has now, like, kind of its infamous history has kind of earned it the reputation as one of the most haunted places in the Philippines.
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i was going to say is that in the Philippines. Okay, cool. Yeah, on one of their many, many islands. I wasn't expecting to go there today. Yeah. Yay. Well, this one i told you I had picked out when we had done one of our other haunted ones.
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o And ah yeah, because I wanted to come back to it. So yeah, it was nice to finally get to a chance to cover it. We pick our own topics. we There's just so many things to choose from. It's just like, yeah, every time. Yeah, sometimes. Right.
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Yeah.
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ah So it seems like it was built about 1903 and it was used by the US s as an officer's post. And at that time it was known as Fortification Stotzenberg.
00:09:05
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Wow. Tell me it's German without telling me it's German. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, why if it's in the Philippines and it's by the U.S.? Is it called Stotzenberg?
00:09:21
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Oh, yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Maybe one of the military members it was named after or something. Maybe. I think there was an explanation and it's long gone. I wrote these notes like a week ago. i don't remember anything.
00:09:36
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ah might as well be cold reading this. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. And I, okay. Yeah. i had to finish mine. Otherwise we might've been able to record it a little earlier in the week when you, yeah.
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But nope, I was like, oh shit, nope, these are not done. And now we're recording it on a Saturday.
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Which is nice. ah So yeah, it worked as like this military officer's post 1903 or three or so until during World War II. then from nineteen forty one to nineteen forty five it fell under japanese occupation ah during world war two and And I think at this point is kind of ah when it turned more into, because I don't think it was really used as a hospital yet.
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um It was more so just like their officer's post, like come kind of command center. ah So during this Japanese occupation, it was used as a prison and execution site where many prisoner prisoners of war were confined and executed.
00:10:45
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Damn. Yeah, they they can be really versatile, those ah military bases and yeah stuff like that, where they're just like well, now it's this. Yeah, right?
00:10:58
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Whatever wartime. Whatever you need it to be. Yeah, it's the military base of requirement. Yeah, like, sometimes I know it probably doesn't happen as much now, but um remember hearing stuff during, like, World War I or World War II where, like, the military would just come to your, like, if you had a farm, they would just come to your farm and you'd be like, we are taking your horses or we are taking whatever. yeah just commandeering your shit okay that's nice yeah so yeah yeah for sure i think i've read about that in the later outlander books when they're in american revolutionary times and they're just like yeah here we we are here now we are having a meet yeah right yeah yeah uh
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Yeah, so during this time, because the Japanese were using it and in control of the property, many American and Filipino people were killed in what they said was horrific ways in um the... It kept saying the hospital, but again, at this point, it wasn't really a hospital, like in the basement.
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that's where a lot of the haunting is. In the basement. no. Yeah, there were some atrocious things they did on some of their prisoners of war. Yeah.
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I think we've talked about it. yeah i think so. They're like, oh wait, let's see what the human body can take. And you're like, please no.
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you sickos. These are still human beings. Yeah, um yeah they did did a lot of let's cut them open while they're alive. That's called vivisection.
00:12:46
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my god. Yeah, like I'd be like, no thanks. Please just kill me. and will kill myself first. Good Lord.
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ah Yeah, so that kind of ended in 1945 when it was back under the U.S. military control. And that's when it was renamed Clark Air Base. um That happened in 1947.
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And it turned into the largest primary arm ah armed force base outside of the U.S., I'm trying to wash that stink away with the name change.
00:13:23
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I don't think that's gonna necessarily make us forget, but okay. No. But I mean, it wasn't done when it was under their control, at least. So, like, they took it back.
00:13:38
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It's not like they were with the one, like, the us wasn't the one that was, like, killing people there. um That was Japanese people that were occupying it. So, yeah.
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Still sucks. Yeah. um But they it seems like it's a really good building. They still wanted to use it. um I did put pictures on the drive. It's actually kind of like cool looking. but um So during this time after they got it back and renamed it and stuff, it was used as a medical center now for both American and Filipino soldiers and pilots and stuff that needed medical attention. So that's when kind of the um medical treatment starts and then from the 1960s to the 1970s the hospital was established on site and was also used as an evacuation center for american officials who got injured during the vietnam oh that became became yeah became very important for the u.s um
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And then critically injured ah officials were flown in from fight zones. um And obviously because they were most of them critically injured, a lot of them did die due to their injuries um at the hospital, which further added to the many people who died on the property. And I guess we're even buried there. I'm sure. Yeah.
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I mean, if you got so many people, how do you? Yeah, sorry. Yeah, how you how you got enough morphine and everybody to help everybody. ah hey or doctors or nurses to give like adequate care to everybody all the time.
00:15:28
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Right. Yeah. As of 1966. A lot of people.
00:15:36
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Oh yeah, it's a huge, huge building. it yeah um I was actually impressed. I can't remember like how many floors it looked like it was in the one picture. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
Ghostly Experiences at Clark Air Base
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like stories tall. like That's crazy. um yeah I'm sure they didn't build it stories tall in That would probably be pretty crazy, but...
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Maybe they added to it, like you said. Yeah. ah As of 1966, one of the sources said the facility had treated about 17,000 patients a month.
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And then it I guess ah it also ran dental services. um It didn't offer any more information about that, and I didn't read about that anywhere else. But it said the dental services treated roughly 35,000 patients.
00:16:31
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I don't know if that's in total or per month, like the other statistic was. It was in the same sentence. So I don't really know. Crew dentistry. That's lot of people. your tooth? No. Yeah, right?
00:16:44
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ah It was also the most urbanized military site in history. ah This was only from one of the sources.
00:16:55
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so I would like to know more about this because this is interesting. It said during its peak in the 1990s, the base had a population of around 15,000, leading to housing being built along with a large commissary.
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a small shopping mall, branch department stores, multiple cafeterias, a hotel, horse stables, zoos, as in plural, a mini golf course, two gyms, three running tracks, a football stadium, two movie theaters, and seven softball fields.
00:17:29
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I was like, what? and that was only in one source that talked about any of these other buildings. And I found no pictures of any of this. So I don't know.
00:17:41
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I have no idea. I'm sorry. But that's crazy. Right. So maybe it's just talking about like the residential area?
00:17:51
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Like I think yeah, like ah there's other buildings other than just the hospital. So I think like this was built for like the people that were working at the hospital and like the military people that were using the hospital stuff.
00:18:06
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But it should be like within the same island, same property. so Yeah, I find it weird that only yeah only one source ever talked about any of these dozen other buildings.
00:18:19
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A little odd. Yeah, that's what I thought. ah it also, in that same source, said that the base had an active broadcast center called the Far East Network Philippines, or f FEN. FEN. FEN, know. FEN.
00:18:35
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then but They also hosted two major annual events, a carnival in February called Happening on the Green, or Hog, and a chili cook-off that was held in September.
00:18:51
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Hog! Yeah, Hog or the Chili Cook-off. Oh, I'll enter Pat into a chili cook-off. He makes good chili. but He does, yeah.
00:19:04
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One time we made a little extra too spicy for... the book club when read that book that was had a title about my brain on is on fire something oh i do not remember that it was a long time ago and i think she had something like encephalitis or yeah at the author i don't know some of those book club books yeah i kind of blocked them out i just remember yeah because it was like the not this this what non-spicy badge ended up too spicy yeah
00:19:36
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oh no yeah oh because he has that ghost pepper just a little bit in the cupboard and a little goes oh um no yeah that'll do it that's like um that meme of that guy sprinkling don't know salt or pepper he's a Oh, Salt Bay. From the like the height. Yeah.
00:19:59
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Yeah. Oh, my God. Well, one time. A little bit of ghost pepper. Well, I confused it when he had it by the spices because, i't yeah like, you know, the the red pepper, like, you get at the, when you're eating pizza and they have it on the table with the Parmesan. Yeah.
00:20:16
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I put that on my pizza. yeah. Yeah. Oh, In the same kind of container. Oh, And I put so much pizza one time. I didn't, like, death i wouldve because it was just a sprinkle, but I don't know.
00:20:31
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like Holy shit, I would have been stuck in the bathroom for like three to four business days. Right? I'm so surprised. I don't remember that happening, so I think I was all right. I think I scraped most of it off when I went, oh, that's not right. You know, it's like when you spill the salt pepper or something.
00:20:49
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Oh, yeah, and you're like, let me dust this off. Yeah. Blow on it. Oof. Damn, oof. That's a lot, yeah. ah So ah getting to the next thing, we jump ahead to 1991. So I guess ah during that time or those decades, it's just operating nicely as like this hospital kind of thing.
00:21:14
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ah Until 1991 when an eruption happens of Mount Pinta or Pina Tubo. Pina Tubo. Cute. Cute.
00:21:26
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ah volcano which severely damaged the base and the hospital and actually covered it in like 8 to 12 inches of ash which obviously they ended up having to abandon it like immediately um very chernobyl um pripa yet kind of deal um i'm sure it happened very very quickly and they're like we gotta get out of here Yeah, cute name for the volcano. Not so cute effects.
00:21:55
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Yeah, I didn't run into anything about anybody dying or being injured. So I hope that was the case. yeah But that's a lot of people that have to evacuate still. Yeah, and breathing problems. Yeah.
00:22:12
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The US military pulled out of the Philippines at this time, leaving behind the building basically to fall into ruin. um And my next sentence says it now lays abandoned inside the Clark Freeport Zone airport.
00:22:26
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So guess there's still a functional airport there. And this is kind of like... um on the they built like the airport kind of like yeah near it but this site is kind of off limits um that's good i think in like nobody ever goes from 1990 no absolutely not never because ah the base was very popular for ghost hunters and travelers um right yeah And like paranormal investigators who have documented ah quite a few chilling experiences there.
00:23:01
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um and many ghost hunters have vowed never to return because it was so terrifying. I mean, even the stairs on the outside are falling to pieces with holes in them. So yeah. Yeah. That part's pretty very dangerous. Yeah.
00:23:19
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It's very abandoned.
00:23:23
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Which I love to look at. Yeah. um So even when the hospital was open and operational, I guess, nursing staff and other employees were already reporting things like doors opening and closing.
00:23:37
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um Others reported seeing people standing around that would suddenly vanish into thin air. Damn. Damn.
00:23:48
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sam um I kind of like categorized some of the experiences that I've been reporting. So for things that people are hearing, um most common experiences is hearing like mumbles and voices.
00:24:06
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ah Some report hearing cries of torture, loud yelling um that doesn't seem to be coming from anywhere. Yeah. gros Yeah, that would be creepy. Just suddenly somebody's yelling and you can't find the source of it.
00:24:21
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Yeah. Just as bad shrieks and screams. Yeah.
00:24:30
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People report the sound of footsteps coming from behind them like they're being followed around and then when they turn around there's no one there. okay Prankster ghost. Yeah, right.
00:24:42
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Jeez. ah Doors have been seen and heard shutting, ah even without any wind or people around them. Apparently there's swing swing music that can be heard coming from the halls in the early morning, um coming from the remains of the old canteen.
00:24:59
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um Oh, the cantina song. did it did did did it did Yeah, that's what I thought of. Yeah, but that's not swinging. That's funny. It's like, um, zoot, zoot, riot, riot. Like, that's weird. Yeah. to I bet it's coming through hauntingly. I'm sure.
00:25:18
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oh my God. Um, yeah, I don't know how, ah how scary that would be. it's
00:25:25
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It's the lack of source that, yeah, makes the noise. Yeah. Scary. That's funny. ah People have heard someone screaming, help me, i don't want to die. While they're standing in the morgue.
00:25:39
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Because it had a morgue. and forgot to mention that. Yeah, guess I guess you'd have to. man Yeah. Within the first floor ward, which was the hospital's pediatric center, ah you can hear baby screams and crying and stuff.
00:25:59
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Which makes me sad. Yeah. Yeah. Not the babies. Hopefully that one just echoes in the past. You know, sometimes the noises are like... Yeah. Temperature changes and cold spots are common, particularly in the memorial service home.
00:26:21
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um So I think they must have had some sort of funeral thing attached to it. And they also had a tornado shelter. um And they said the tornado shelter is where most of the deaths occurred.
00:26:34
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So, I don't know. It must be located somewhere in the basement. Those two as well, if that's where most of the deaths occurred. Right. But it's a shelter. It's supposed to be safe.
00:26:48
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They're just putting all the sickest people down in the freaking one area, using it as like ah what do you call it, a hospice? I don't know. I think maybe after...
00:26:59
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like the US got it back from Japan they they must have built the tornado shelter and the memorial service home like they are in the basement and that's why they say most of the deaths occurred there because yeah it doesn't make sense to me either like what do you mean had so many uses so yeah it's hard to parse out some of it yeah for a building that's like 120 some years old it's had a lot going on in that time
00:27:31
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Um, there's, like, these humanoid shadows that have apparently been captured on cameras. Uh, I couldn't really find any that anybody's put on the internet, really.
00:27:43
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um they also say there's, like, apparitions walking or floating that appear to be soldiers with battle wounds. And some of these apparitions are seen floating across the airstrip, like, outside.
00:27:55
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Ghost soldiers. But were they sexy ghost soldiers? Yeah. Yeah, they have muscly elbows. I'll never, never not think of a muscly sweaty elbow. muscly is your elbow? Your elbow just looks like a big dimple or something. Yeah, like what the hell? i don't, how do you work out your elbow? That's supposed to look attractive.
00:28:19
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I like a nice elbow. Oh, now I can just hear the Gravity Falls because they used to play it a commercial for Gravity Falls a lot. So there's one episode where they're like, lick that elbow because they say you can't lick your elbow. Oh, yeah. I it's too far.
00:28:34
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Anyway, I'm obviously trying it right now. Some people can. You can't do it like this, but there's people that can do it like that. With your arm upstretched. Oh. Yeah, if you put your arm out straight and then you like kind of twist around the skin. There's some people that are like double jointed enough in like their shoulder and everything that they can reach it.
00:28:54
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um Yeah. Fun facts. There is also EVPs that have been recorded throughout the hospital.
00:29:06
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ah Ghost trackers, captured voices saying things like help me get out and I'm still here. o don't like that. yeah I'm still here but so sad don't like it right like you're still there in the afterlife and you're aware of that is that what you're saying because yeah that does sound very right it's sad yeah ah For, like, specific ghosts, so I guess, that are seen, there's shadowy figures, obviously, i think I kind of mentioned this, dressed in military outfits that wander the hospital halls.
00:29:44
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But there's also orderlies that are dressed in, like, their dated outfits that are commonly seen. Okay. Hospital staff. Yeah. Yeah. And then there's a couple servicemen who haunt the hospital that seems to have, they seem to have, like, killed themselves on the grounds.
00:30:05
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Oh. Yeah, that are also seen, I guess, and enough that, like, they are, like. separated from the rest of the ghosts i guess um the one haunts the clark museum in the spot where he hung himself and another ah it i don't know where he haunts but it said that he had killed himself to avoid capture um and he haunts oh he haunts the airport So probably ah outside of the hospital grounds.
00:30:38
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What's the terminal? He got in, but he can never leave. that's right that That movie, it was based on a true story.
00:30:47
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The one with Tom Hanks? Yeah, yeah, the terminal. Yeah. Crazy, that could happen to you. that like do to I don't know, you're not having the right diplomatic... Your country doesn't want you anymore, or it's not a country anymore, or something stupid like that. It was like...
00:31:04
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Yeah. leave you better that's yeah don't know. the version version. Yeah.
00:31:14
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um
00:31:16
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I don't have... I guess I do have another page and a half, but these aren't long. Inside the hospital, people have had objects thrown at them. ohh And have ah sorry many people who have visited the hospital have claimed to have horrible and intense nightmares after they left.
00:31:37
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That, like, yeah the experience stayed with them. um totally. Yeah. I can see that. That seems kind of common. Or at least that came up in and mine as well.
00:31:50
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Yeah. um
00:31:56
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Yeah, then they listed the most haunted places said to be the functioning room. I've never heard of what a functioning room is. But it said where spirits of trained professionals and patients are seen.
00:32:11
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I think most rooms are functional so I don't know why and one needs to be a functioning room. Before they came up with the waiting room and the other little room that you go in to wait more. Yeah, the secluded waiting room, the public waiting room.
00:32:27
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have to go back there again because I went to renew my I thought i had renewed my puffer prescription and then I went to do it and it was like nope, still expired and and I was like did I forget to take it with me and they're like Oh, yes, probably. But also, it was only good for like three days. That's stupid. by If someone with me, like, you know, doesn't get around to it right away. yeah it was already expired. have to make it. i had to make a new appointment.
00:32:58
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then Then they said that it was going to be for last weekend. And then they said they called and left a message the day after and said, oh, no, we're doing renovations this Saturday. You'll have to call back and make new appointment. I said, what?
00:33:09
Speaker
Thanks. and You guys accepted the first appointment. Yeah, it was two days ago. How do you not know you're doing renovations? And then they sent another voice message that said I did have an appointment, but I think that one was an auto reminder because I just fucking went there that day because it's like 10 minutes away. And I was like, you guys open? And they're like, no, they're like doing renovations. And I'm like, okay, just checking because I got two conflicting voicemails. Yeah, it was such a bane. Yeah.
00:33:39
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Cheers.
00:33:42
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Stupid. So there's the memorial room or memorial service room where it just said where the bodies were once taken care of.
00:33:53
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So must be like a funeral morgue type thing. Right. Yeah. A morgue type room. Yeah. you Maybe there was some embalming going on once that was a thing. Yeah. Although that's been around for quite a while now. So yeah.
00:34:09
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Yeah. um And then obviously i mentioned the basement where it's said to be the most creepy due to the high number of gruesome executions and stuff that happened there. um Well, yeah.
00:34:23
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Yeah. ah There is also this thing that discoverhubpages.com had. Yeah.
00:34:34
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About the hospital where they talked about the ma... I'm going pronounce this wrong. Ma'am Babaring?
00:34:47
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Ma'am Babaring. Nailed it. Yeah, and I'm not sure. Yeah. where it's like a witch or sort ah summoners of death and these are explained as ordinary human beings who possess black magic powers and like to torture and then later kill their victims by infesting their bodies with insects so they are essentially the filipino version of a sorcerer god they have such cool folklore creatures like right with the longest names because i was like wait they have one called like the mananangal or something like that yeah i can't also pronounce um they use a strand of hair from their chosen victim and tie it to an insect never heard anything like that before
00:35:39
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the insect then acts as a medium and when they prick the bug the victim immediately feels the effect so it's like a voodoo doll but it's an insect yeah uh and i mentioned this because many in the area because it's in the philippines they report seeing these creatures roaming the game roaming the grounds inside and outside the base um wow great creepy right go book your book your tickets now monsters too oh seriously though like don't we've done just filipino specific creatures but i'm like every time i come across we've done folklore okay stuff which we had creatures
00:36:30
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I just feel like there's so many that it's every time I come across one, I'm like, never heard of this one. I've never heard of this one. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. But once the building was kind of like abandoned in 1991, much of the area was pretty quickly looted and the structures were left to decay and become really overgrown with weeds and plants.
00:36:55
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ah There's these no trespassing signs that were put up and it was extremely dangerous to go into any of the buildings because they were like falling apart. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:08
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I do have another thing from discoverhubpages.com that I thought was cool. Right? Yeah. I only had a couple of sources.
00:37:21
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um But this was a story off their website from a security guard. They must have talked to who stated that underneath the hospital is supposedly a dungeon that leads to a chamber where the dead bodies of American soldiers were thrown And kept, though it is unclear as to why, as there was also the Clark Veterans Cemetery, which is located directly inside the main gate and sits on 20 acres.
00:37:51
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So like, why would their bodies just be like thrown in there instead of buried? um They also continued saying there's reportedly an underground cemetery located under another structure that can only be accessed by crawling into a manhole.
00:38:05
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Oh, no. There are 8,600 people buried at Clark, in addition to 2,100 unknown ah like bodies, ah most of whom were American soldiers.
00:38:18
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So there's a lot of people like buried in that cemetery and on the grounds, I guess, according to that security guard. I think all of this was from Yeah, and that's kind of when people start to be like, well, what the hell are we to do with these bodies? And then catacombs happen and stuff like that. or Yeah, yeah.
00:38:34
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disrespecting of people's bodies they're just like well just pile them over here whatever who cares awful um I think this was also from that site it said it's noted that the hospital is one of the very few places that Ghost Hunters International actually deemed to be haunted which I thought was kind of a fun fact ok oh Ghost Hunters yes so Ghost Hunters International right yes ah
00:39:05
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and they themselves said that the base was one of the most haunted places they had ever visited. um Oh, and it said, which is incredible because they visit places all over the globe.
00:39:15
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Well, they're Ghosts on Internet International. Yes. Yes, but it's more incredible because they're not ghost adventures or some people who are just like, maybe yeah this whole place is haunted and just like playing it up. They're more trying to be like on the debunking side, I find.
00:39:30
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Yeah. Yeah. So they deemed it to actually be haunted. They said it was one of the most haunted places they had ever visited.
Charles Camsell Hospital's Haunted Legacy
00:39:38
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But then i read that it said you can find the episode on season one, episode 20.
00:39:44
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And I was like, oh so they had been to 20 places before this or 19 places before this and then deemed it one of the most haunted they had ever been to. So far.
00:39:55
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Yeah. I was like, OK. um Yeah. That episode was called Unknown Soldiers. Yeah. They'd be saying stuff like that sometimes with different shows, yeah especially reality shows.
00:40:09
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yeah uh clark airbase they said was also featured in a national geographic documentary series titled i wouldn't go in there which i thought was funny no you would not you should not But I did want to mention that just before recording, i was trying to look up more pictures and ah I ran across a thing that was from last year in like 2024. Right.
00:40:38
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four right ah that said that the whole grounds is actually being renovated and none of the other things talked about this so the whole area I guess is closed off and the Clark Air Base Hospital is bille being fully renovated and will be the future site for the National Museum of the Philippines.
00:41:01
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So if you do, her so you can't like go explore it anymore because it's being actively renovated as of 2024. So, wow.
00:41:13
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Yeah. Which I didn't know about until literally 10 minutes before we started recording. And know i was like, oh, so you can't. We need those 10 extra minutes. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah.
00:41:25
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Or no, I was going to say my oil change took a lot, but it didn't. Your stuff took a little bit longer. yeah We both had errands to run. well Yeah. yeah Sorry.
00:41:37
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um Yeah, so it sounds like they're renovating it and it's going to be open to the public again as wow the museum. There's going to so much you You won't be able to ghost hunt there, I guess.
00:41:52
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ah Yeah, probably nobody has been able to for a long time it's been abandoned. Yeah, it's said that people were still like going there not necessarily with like permission or anything but probably they i think they've been renovating for at least a year um but yeah i thought it was weird that none of the sources like talked about any of that so i don't know if the renovation's been completed um
00:42:22
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yeah or if it's open now but
00:42:28
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gonna be one haunted museum but that's that's kind of cool it's history right where history happened yeah so i think it's cool I guess I don't know yeah I'm just like all right it just feels like do they wouldn't they have to raise the whole building I don't know depends on what's left I suppose yeah I did find like one picture that I don't know it was kind of an aerial shot of the building saying it was being renovated and then I found a YouTube video that was like a guy that like was standing in front of it and it had the new sign and everything but the rest of it looked like it was abandoned still but it had a nice new sign saying like Museum of the Philippines and and then it said Clark or something on it um so I was like oh so they have a new sign but like they're still working on their everything else
00:43:28
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yeah future site i did see that picture i was like okay yeah so i don't really know maybe it's already opened because that was from like last year yeah i've seen the way things move they've been yeah sometimes it can be overpass around here for 10 years now no
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00:45:38
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Oh, well, not sure how the last one's going to end because we had a technical difficulty. so Yeah, it just froze on us. Yeah, I mean, we were like at the end, but then we going to have to break. Yeah, mine completely done.
00:45:54
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Yeah. And then it was just like, yeah, now. And we're like, oh, okay. i was like, Kelsey froze. Wait, what's happening? ah Yeah. My computer.
00:46:07
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It hates me. It's like everything else. No. It's ghosts. ah Yeah. All our talk about haunted ghosts have corrupted our laptops.
00:46:24
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my laptop is so dusty oh my god i never noticed as much and but then this light right now is just perfect it's just catching everything on my oh yeah i'm like oh my god i'm like now there's a piece of schmutz right in front of kelsey's face oh okay um i know i just like did a lick and cleaned your cheek through a screen
00:46:51
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I had something on my face. He looked some shorts. Oh my God. And I was also like so distracted by how dusty my um microphone arm was that I just dusted.
00:47:05
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all right she's yeah thankfully i have uh gorda walking across this desk and swiping it with his tail and stuff to keep it keep it dust free but covered in ah a nice consistent layer of cat hair right he's dusting and he's marking his territory yeah he's leaving behind trace evidence but he's dusting yeah Oh, gosh.
00:47:36
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So I have for you today a local haunt for us. Oh, really? It's very nearby.
00:47:48
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oh no. right here in Edmonton. No.
00:47:56
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It's an oldie. It's also an oldie. It's called ah the Former Charles Camsell Hospital. Damn. Like, I also saw it referred to as just the down, the general downtown hospital and stuff like that.
00:48:13
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Oh, okay. Some local people. Because I do have a... a couple of stories or little comment memories from some Reddit threads.
00:48:26
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Okay. Reddit. Yeah. Always my friend. um But yeah, i hadn't heard of this one.
00:48:37
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I take it. You probably haven't either. No, it doesn't ring a bell. Yeah. It's been closed for a while. So I guess that makes sense. Yeah. We are not that old, guys.
00:48:50
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Yeah. And it was first used as a Jesuit college in the early 1900s. So mine like started quite around the same time yours did. There was a lot of similarities, I was noticing.
00:49:04
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okay. Yeah. It's named after Dr. Charles Kamsel, who was, I guess, a geologist and something called the Deputy Minister of Mines and Resources.
00:49:14
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Yeah.
00:49:17
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Okay. Mines and resources. What does that even mean? yeah I thought, okay, so mines and then like the resources that we get, like ground resources, like ore and metal. Oh, okay. Yeah.
00:49:35
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I thought you meant minds like our brain. And i was like, brain he's the minister of brains and resources. I'm like, what does that even mean? my I know it's like when you hear minor, okay minor, and you're like, wait, is it a child or is someone digging underground or whatever? Yeah.
00:49:56
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Yeah, it's confusing out loud and on paper. ah So sorry, but but he was he was that, the Deputy Minister of Mines and Resources from 1920 to 1946. Okay. I know.
00:50:08
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okay I like,
00:50:13
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Get it, I guess. But it's a little better than assistant to the deputy regional manager. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:24
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And then it was also used as a military base. Okay, yeah. So familiar. um Also during World War two and that was where U.S. Army soldiers ah were stationed and also, I guess, helped to build the Alaska Highway from here.
00:50:42
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But I was like, cool. No further information. I don't know anything about that either. i mean you can drive to Alaska from here. So I guess they just started work on one of them highways that connects us up north.
00:50:58
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Yeah. Cool. Go for it.
00:51:02
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Maybe we'll go up there one day, but I can still endeavor to see the Northern Lights from here because sometimes you can't work. Yeah. Yeah. I'm always jealous. I've never caught them.
00:51:13
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I, no, I haven't caught any good ones. Like once or twice here, like Rain said she saw them. And so I'll get the alerts on my phone, usually too late by the next day when they're like, it's probably tonight. And then you're like, oh, but like there's so much light pollution.
00:51:28
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um Yes, that's a big problem. Yeah, my friend that lives a little south of the city, she gets really good pictures, I find. And I'm like, oh, we have to like drive out one night. um Yes, yeah.
00:51:42
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Yeah, just one of these days. And then right to sit in the car and just wait. and Because like even up until this time of year, they're still happening, which is I'm like, that's crazy. But yeah, there's a photography group.
00:51:54
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I don't know if I'm still part of it. um I left a couple of them, but the one they were always talking about, like the best spots to look at the lights and everything. But yeah, it was always like an and hour outside of the city. Yeah, I think the nearest one I remember was maybe what?
00:52:10
Speaker
what is it called elk national park or something yeah i feel like that's at least probably yeah so it's it's that would be a commitment if you were gonna do it to take the pictures but still so cool that yeah we could see it here um and i think they could see it into some of the northern states even whatever.
00:52:32
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Google, Google thinks I want all the Aurora news now. So it'll be, this is where you can see it in these Northern States. I'm like, okay, but I'm not there.
00:52:45
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oh So this place was next used as a hospital for servicemen. most specifically those with tuberculosis and other respiratory issues. Oh, okay.
00:52:58
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Oh yeah. Yeah. the Big Yeah, that's not good. Yeah. Shout out, Big TB! good
00:53:10
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The
00:53:12
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yeah yeah That's it, right? Okay. Yeah. Very contagious. Very scary. um Finally, in 1946, it was converted into a special hospital, specifically this time, for First Nations and Indigenous peoples.
00:53:28
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So... Did an abrupt turn. Was it a good hospital? Was it a good hospital or we were we doing shitty things to them? Because I know there's like... little column A, a little column B, I would say. Because I've heard stuff about like forced... um
00:53:46
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like um Forcibly remove people to to hospital? no but like removing... like If somebody's having a C-section, they wake up and find out their uterus has been removed or their tubes have been tied without their consent. That kind of stuff I've heard a lot about happening in Canada. so I was like, is this a good hospital or was it a shitty hospital?
00:54:08
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You know, it's probably more on the shittier side, I guess, because I did come across some... discussions of some more experimental stuff, but that think most of the people were probably really trying to help those that had tuberculosis and stuff. They couldn't get treated for where they were in the rural areas, but you know how all that is. It's,
00:54:37
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cloaked up in what is it white savior crap but really we were just trying to be like we're gonna save you because you guys are savages and we yeah are we're gonna christianize you yeah we're not more knowledgeable than you right and it's like no just no different things so yeah and i i'm sure it's like not all people were like that probably just like All over the Americas. But it doesn't matter. Because, yeah.
00:55:12
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The ones that do. There are so many. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I said mine's a bit of a bummer. It's like, great. Yeah, fair enough. But history do be like that sometimes. We can't just like, be like, la la la, and keep glossing over it sometimes. time you You can't ignore it, because that's how you're you're doomed to repeat it. You have to You may not have to understand it, but you should be aware it happened.
00:55:39
Speaker
um you don't need to know all the details about it all the time, but you should be aware that things like this have happened. Exactly. Right. No, I agree with that sentiment.
00:55:52
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It's like, it's always time for truth and reconciliation. Yeah. um But there's some... ah glimmers of good stories. You'll see.
00:56:04
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So, ah and now that we get all that out of the way, you know, guys. i hope so! ah God damn it. Ugh. So, yes, the federal government did use this quote-unquote Indian sanatorium, which is like, ugh, gross.
00:56:19
Speaker
Oh no. no Yeah. But they used it to treat people from rural areas in parts of Alberta, BC, Saskatchewan, and the Northwest Territories, and um What is now Nunavut today.
00:56:33
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So all the north in regions where they wouldn't be hospitals otherwise. So they would go on what they call they call now the x-ray tours where they would go around and screen people for tuberculosis and do other like dental checkups and things for them.
00:56:53
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okay Okay. that was all... you know, I think for the, for the good, but it was very probably scary because the people didn't speak the same languages. And so there was a lot of obviously language barriers and not a lot of information given to the people that are in the villages and stuff like that. Um, yeah.
00:57:17
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Oftentimes people did not come back for a long time or at all. So it was very scary as it was leap of faith to take, to go with these white people, doctors, Yeah, because, like, you have to remember until, like, the mid-90s, like, resident schools and stuff were still happening. So, like, people's children, um like, Indigenous people's children were still being taken from them and being put in these, like, boarding school type things.
00:57:50
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um So, yeah. It's hard to believe that could still have been happening when I was a kid, yeah. Yeah. I hope they were mostly tied out by them. People like to pretend it was so long ago and everything, and it's like, no, literally a lot of these people are in their 30s now that could have been children in these schools.
00:58:13
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Yeah. It's definitely too close for comfort. Yeah. Yeah, or maybe their parents were the last generation in their family of kids that were taken into these schools and they went on for hundreds of years.
00:58:27
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It's not like we're not talking about something that happened 100 years ago. It's like literally not even 30 years. like and Right. Like, I don't know the exact time span. I feel like it's maybe. Yeah, like because you see a lot of the pictures but the in black and white and.
00:58:45
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from what looks like the 50s that that's kind of what you get the idea that that's when it stopped but it's like yeah no things don't stop out that quickly and easily unfortunately no like I remember reading the last one closed like um in the mid 90s and it was like god that's like there weren't many left in the last decade I think but they were still operating so that's crazy so Yeah, that would be scary. Like somebody coming in like, we're going to take your family member away and um give the medical treatment, but we don't know if there's anything wrong with them.
00:59:26
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Right. Or like, well, they're screening them. That's why they're taking the x-rays. Okay. But um yeah, there's an uncertainty for sure. you probably don't understand like where they're going for how long.
00:59:42
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And a lot of stuff like that. So there's a freelance writer and this is a cool a title to have. Edmonton's third historian laureate. Oh,
00:59:56
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nice. Not sure exactly. didn't think a laureate's like one of those titles, right? Where you're like, oh, it's like you won the Pulitzer Prize. It's like, that's, that's an honor. like Oh, okay. I've heard that word before, but I didn't really know what it means.
01:00:12
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think maybe you can be like a poet laureate i'm like definitely it's a distinction uh that this person has yeah that's very cool um to be edmonton's third historian laureate uh and her name is danielle metcalf chanel so uh chanel nailed it i don't know i'm not sure how to say that but that nailed it show you drop the thing and you go nailed it and it's just melting It's a melting cake. It's supposed to look like, don't know, anything.
01:00:47
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Yeah, exactly. Anything other than a pile of icing on ah a cake that's too hot. ah Right. I'll melt it up. That was so funny. I love It makes me laugh.
01:00:57
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That's a good time. You just have fun.
01:01:04
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um Okay, so this chick knows her history, and she gathered a blog called Ghosts of Camzell where people could come and to comment their memories and stuff like that.
01:01:17
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Okay. Okay.
01:01:22
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That's kind of cool. On mine, when I found that picture saying it was being renovated into a ah museum, um I clicked on the link and it was like to that YouTube video I mentioned that had the guy standing in front of it. And I paused his video because it was like half an hour long. i was like, I don't have time to watch this. But um I scrolled down and read some of the...
01:01:42
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Yeah. ah Read some of the comments and a lot of the comments were, were um either military people or people that had been treated in the hospital there when it had been a hospital and they were all kind of like sharing their stories of a like,
01:01:57
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what illness they had and um their time in the hospital. And it was actually at least the like, I don't know, 15 or 20. I just quickly scrolled through at the top of the kind of comments. They all seemed really nice and that their experience there was like positive um and they received good treatment. So I was like, oh, this is kind of nice that um people are commenting on here.
01:02:21
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um and a lot of people on there were military people being like oh yeah i got like injured in combat and then like taken to this hospital um and stuff so that was that was kind of nice yeah not yeah not really talking about the ghosts or anything from what i ran across but it's always nice to have personal stories exactly like you guys are like living history because you were there when it was still that
01:02:48
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Yeah. So the Ghosts of Camsell blog Danielle made was adapted into a short documentary of the same name. It was very short. I did find it on one of the websites. It was 13 minutes. It was great.
01:03:01
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Oh! Just people talking about it in the in the space. of them I was like, oh, I think you used to represent our neighborhood. Like she was like a member of parliament or whatever they're called.
01:03:12
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Oh, geez.
01:03:15
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oh Anyway. So they showed some former patients and nurses, others that have worked with or at the property. So yeah, just like nurses that were like, it was like worked there in the seventies.
01:03:28
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And they talked about how for a lot of the patients, it was a relief to go to a hospital that they felt very welcome in. um It didn't say white person hospital on the door. It said,
01:03:42
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you know, the word we don't use now, but First Nations, like, so they felt very welcomed, knew it was a place they could, they could go and be with other people that might speak their language and stuff. And yeah, there was one nurse, Mary Johnson, she was there 70s and 80s.
01:04:00
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She said that was like a variety of very interesting people to work for. And that's kind of what drew her to it. And she did feel like they um were doing good work there. So I think she was proud of I think maybe by then people were more modern. I hope so. was better.
01:04:17
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ah and And there was an Inuit translator who worked there who said that Inuit people are like very family oriented and we're glad to see people of their own like race or ethnicity or whatever yeah because that would be very very far away for them right oh yeah they like yeah she basically said that it was weird to hear their and to see their own people and their own dialects even and and then she used a word that meant southern canada it used it explained what the word meant ah was like we're southern canada
01:04:52
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not the the prairie provinces I mean, to them, we're all southern Canada down here, yeah. Yeah. We might as well be America!
01:05:03
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Right? Like, they're up there on the same latitude as Alaska. So, you guys can tell. That's the part of Canada that gets that cold. Yeah. Eerie cold.
01:05:16
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Oh, yeah. Like... eat blubber cold i don't know you know um one man his name was john fournier he was a former patient uh he was recalling his time there on the documentary and he actually said that after he left the camsdale he missed it he missed the sense of community and it was like a home away from home for him sort of thing That's nice.
01:05:42
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Especially because his family sadly had all died of tuberculosis, like one by one, and he was only one that survived it. Oh god. Yep. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. yeah You forget, it like, I mean, with like the measles resurgence and then COVID a few years ago I think people had kind of forgot how serious was.
01:06:02
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i mean serious yeah like um for the fact that like cancer kills so many people it's not yeah contagious so like it's you know it has like a different yeah pandemic or yeah but like contagious diseases are so scary and like um that yeah it just eats through it eats through communities and cities so quickly and families um yeah and people were people have always been leery of them from the very start i mean they were they were pretty rough looking for the first smallpox remember how people still want to have like the big scars it's because they my mom does yeah open yeah and they would just like shove a little bit of the strand into like something i don't know if it's like
01:06:55
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soaked in it like a little bit of string it's like oh thank god they're just little needles now oh god terrible but yeah my mom still has it looks like a little like burn mark on her her arm like yeah it's crazy star um um Anyway, vaccinate your kids. Okay.
01:07:20
Speaker
Yes, please do. If your kids are gonna... And don't lie. Don't lie about vaccination records. Oh no. like I hate all that. What's happening with like measles.
01:07:30
Speaker
Yeah, I bitched because the COVID one was annoying. But like, your fucking... Like, your babies need their regular ones. like Yeah. It's not just gonna stay away just because we keep hoping and praying. Like, we have to keep making sure people don't have these things.
01:07:49
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Anyway. don't know why we're on our soapbox. Yeah. I'm always like, we know. yeah So there were actually about 22 of these segregated hospitals across Canada. Didn't know that.
01:08:05
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um yeah So like they tried to keep their patients busy because the main treatment at this time was basically rest and there wasn't uh a cure right yeah yet speaking of vaccines yeah so they had k crafts painting beadwork they had some educational classes offered so that was pretty cool um nice i like that many yeah there weren't many great pictures but if i do put some up obviously for like instagram or whatever because i didn't put any on the drive
01:08:42
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there was one they're like ah four nurses around a smiling like young ladies bed and they're handing her all these flowers i was like okay there were some moments where yeah they had some photo ops um and some people look like they had some happy times and they had some places for the kids which i have a little bit of ah kid that went there um and didn't have a terrible time let's okay that's nice to hear i always worry when we talk about hospitals i'm like oh damn like rip off the band-aid yeah um okay so one story uh that's featured in a lot of the articles and stuff is from a louisa barrel a woman whose dad went to get treated at camsell hospital
01:09:34
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when she was just 17. Her family was living in Cambridge Bay, Nunavut. And her mom passed away when Louisa was only nine. So this was very sad that her dad went away when she was only 17. He, oh yeah, his name was Joseph Eliak.
01:09:54
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And he had lost his toes as a child due to an illness. So he kind of had to walk on his heels ever since that. so what they had offered to him was prosthetics yeah for his feet they were gonna give him some toes i guess um okay i've never heard of prosthetic toes before i've heard of like right animals like a duck they'll give like a duck a fake foot sometimes stuff like that i've heard about but i've never heard about prosthetic toes for people
01:10:26
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Yeah, i I mean, I'm sure they had to make some sort of end cap situation, like a little bit of foot, some toes, sticker on there. um huh But yeah, you'd have much more balance, I believe. yeah Yeah.
01:10:43
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So they offered him prosthetics for his feet. Joseph, in his 40s at the time, had never flown before. So I think that was quite a novel experience oh for him.
01:10:54
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um he basically stayed to see the birth of his grandchild uh i don't know if it was oh yeah i think it was louisa one source said louisa was giving birth to her son or something and then he left and she never saw him again sorry oh Yeah, he didn't come back. And he wasn't even sick when he left, right?
01:11:17
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So that one's a very sad one. But she did later learn from someone who did return that he had gotten ill at the hospital and died there. So he must have caught something. Aww, that's so sad Especially because he said that he was calling out his daughter's name before he died.
01:11:36
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sorry. Yeah. um So now she and her... don't know if this is her niece or not, because it said Joseph's granddaughter, Kathy.
01:11:49
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A-I-T-A-O-K. How do you think I say that? Am I the asshole? No. It starts with A-I-T-A-M-I-T-S. A-I-T-A-O-K. That's my best guess. so that her So that's Joseph's granddaughter and his daughter. They are now searching for answers up to where he was buried, even.
01:12:12
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They would like to know. is. mm-hmm yeah that's sad right like his living relatives weren't able to be told where he was buried because it's like when you were talking about in yours like people get shuffled around sometimes after and it's awful yeah um there is a grave site grave site now located by a former residential school there those are again and in that's in st albert so for of don't know, that's just outside of Edmonton here. Um, so some of the former patients were buried here. And then from the late, uh, from the late 1946, no, I think I going to put from the late 1940s, from 1946 to 1996, the children that were there helped to take care of the cemetery, I guess.
01:13:02
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Um, that's depressing a little bit.
01:13:08
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Maybe they liked it. My kid just had a ball weeding the garden ah for allowance money, but still. Yeah. She had her headphones on.
01:13:19
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I come back from doing my errands. She was still out there. was like, wow. I'm sorry. I'm trying here. It's so terrible. um but no there's it gets better and so the school then closed in 1968 and something called pound makers treatment lodge located adjacent to the property took over the upkeep of that cemetery um then it fell into disrepair and neglect after the city of edmonton took over the care fuck you Yeah, fuck you, Edmonton.
01:13:52
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City of Champions, my ass! yeah um And... not going to think I'm making fun of the Oilers. Sorry.
01:14:07
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Some of the... Oh, where was it little Oh, and then a brush fire destroyed um the grave markers. Really shitty luck. Finally, though, about 20 years ago, ah ah cairn was erected by the city with 98 names of patients engraved.
01:14:25
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I should have put that picture up on the drive. I'm sorry. It's where they made like a little, not like just, it's like a little stone monument basically, right? And it's made up of bunch other little stones and then there's a little plaque on it and it says the 98 names of the patients that were buried under it are there, but Joseph is not one of them because he was not buried there.
01:14:47
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um okay and they figure that was probably because that one uh had been where most of the protestant and anglican uh patients former patients had been buried at that cemetery in particular so now they gotta find the catholics jeez Yes, so this the the the historian laureate lady, Metcalfe Chanel, she's helping them, trying to locate where the rest of them are buried, researching the location. And then I have a quote about that that said, quote, the records are so tricky to track down.
01:15:22
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When people did pass away, sometimes they didn't try to contact family members. Often they just couldn't get a hold of them. um So I guess sometimes they did try. ah yeah but they made such efforts to go to communities and get them out to bring them down here but they didn't make the same efforts to bring them home again for burials end quote yeah that's true like they went they were going out and they were like head hunting these people so you should know where you gary took them from right yeah or at least where they were if you're not able to help them then bring them back
01:16:03
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Yeah.
01:16:06
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Keep a better track, a better record. like I don't know. Yeah. um It said that Louisa Beryl will keep searching for her father in the hopes of one day bringing him back home.
01:16:18
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um Oh, he had had a quote too saying, I want to come back and see you, but I don't know. Beryl remembers her father saying like before he left, he said some people died in the hospital.
01:16:32
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And she said, he died in the wintertime. He was a good hunter. In the spring, I used to go look for him on the land and think he was going to come home from hunting. When I'm really missing him, I search for him in the distance. Yeah, that's heartbreaking. Sorry. um But the story of Anne Hardy...
01:16:52
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a young girl who went to the hospital. um she remembers a little bit more fondly and she came back. So let's talk about her. Yeah. Um, she was 10 and living in Fort Smith, um, which that's in Northwest territories, I think.
01:17:09
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Yeah. Up North. Um, I'm so bad at geography, even like geography near me, like driving distance. I'm like, where's that? I know. we That's why I paused and I was like, wait, we have a lot of places called like Fort McMurray that are up north. Yeah. We have a lot of fort places.
01:17:30
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Oh, no. ah Yeah, I think this might be North's territories, but I know it is up north somewhere. Good lord. So she contracted tuberculosis.
01:17:41
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um They came around on the x-ray tour and said they could take her to the hospital. And she got really excited. She was like, a trip. I get to go on a plane. i get to leave here. at never left here.
01:17:52
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my parents were really nervous. um Having both been to residential schools themselves, they... knew their hair was probably warranted um yeah so her mother came with her for the first few weeks to help okay everything was okay after yeah i think it was really cool yeah don't let your kid just be taken by people even if they say they work in a hospital yeah yeah i'm glad they like allowed her to come i don't know yeah um
01:18:24
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So finally, when she did leave, she made sure Anne had regular contact with her, like a phone call once a week. So they could stay in contact and everything. Make sure everything was okay. Copacetic.
01:18:36
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And Anne kind of settled in and made friends with her roomie and some of the other younger folks that were there. There was like a playground area. And one day they had a field trip to the zoo, which she remembers that, ah you know, as a fond memory.
01:18:51
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Wow. But then she had a scarier incident that kind of leads to her um leaving. So well what did she say? Oh, hang on.
01:19:04
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but First, this quote. Depending on the nurse that was working, it depended on how well our treatment was. We certainly didn't get the outright abuse they got in the residential schools. But bearing in mind that we were so far away from home and away from our parents, we certainly weren't treated with the compassion I would want children treated.
01:19:21
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is what she said. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, not great. Um, she then witnessed a young boy at the hospital who was immobilized by a body cast, which I first read was just a typical treatment procedure for tuberculosis and that terrified her.
01:19:41
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Oh. Um, I've since come across sources that said it was used as a punishment. So take it with a grain of salt. don't Oh my god. Because what?
01:19:55
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Maybe I'm not familiar enough with like tuberculosis to know. But yeah, that doesn't doest even make sense. Unless you have a broken bone, you shouldn't be in a body cast. Right? Because like it's a respiratory issue.
01:20:13
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For the most part. That's how it mainly affects is your lungs. Yeah. And then your body does kind of start to waste away. But that, yeah, that's not going to help him just to put him in a body cast for you. That's going to exacerbate the weakness. so Oh yeah.
01:20:29
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That sucks. So just, you know, for another minute, it's just going to be bad again. She remembers how they opened his lungs and scraped out the TB. Apparently.
01:20:43
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Apparently. What? I'm sorry. they don't know how or why or how or how. Or what. That sounds like like a biopsy or something. Does it? Okay, yeah. yeah Yeah.
01:20:56
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I'm just like, I don't know. To me, it must have been a bloody nightmare. Yeah, or like if they go in and do... um like a tumor removal if you have like cancer um that's like a tumor tumor and they can remove it they'll go in and remove it but why somebody else would be witnessing this surgery i have no idea like i think she might have been hearing about this part i don't know it must have scared her so bad oh yeah if you're a kid you don't that'd be scary no matter what even if you knew that was what was supposed to happen it would still be yeah scary that might be a bit of hyperbole you may not be actually ah physically able to open up people's both lungs but i don't know i don't want to think about it too much that's all i know it's yeah he survived that
01:21:50
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Because then she says, all I knew is he had to be in the body cast for a year. To me, that was torture. It was very difficult for him. And he was very weak when he came out of the cast. Duh. Oh, yeah.
01:22:02
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Seriously. They talk about after a couple weeks when you have a broken like bone and stuff, you lose all your muscle mass in that like arm or leg or whatever because of not being able to use it. So imagine your whole body. you'd probably you'd probably have to relearn how to walk.
01:22:20
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probably
01:22:24
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so this caused her to call her parents in hysterics correct oh yeah i would good thing she set up that phone call um and of course they were immediately concerned and they sprang into action So her father flew down and confronted the doctors and Anne said this was a side of him she had never seen before. He was usually quite docile, but he argued with the doctors.
01:22:51
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No, you don't hurt my child. That's completely... Yeah. Yeah. And they argued right back, saying that he was ruining her life and he said, you are not doing this to her.
01:23:06
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You're ruining her life? Yeah. Well, I guess she does have tuberculosis, right? You said so Yeah. um But they sent her home with some horse pills and she never got it again.
01:23:18
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so she Horse pills? What is this? COVID? This is Donald Trump telling people to take horse tranquilizers. You know, like big pills. Big pills. Oh, okay.
01:23:30
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You never heard it called that? It's like, oh, I can't swallow big pills. I like brought the extra strength ibuprofen. And even though they're the gel ones, they're like so fat that I'm like, they like get stuck. If I don't take a big enough gulp, I'm like, no, I'm going choke. You know what? Yeah.
01:23:47
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Because when I was like 14 and I got sick, my mom's like, you're going to have to start taking pills because a lot of your medications are going to be pills. And kids don't have medicine.
01:23:59
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Yeah. So what we did is ah we bought like M&Ms, like chocolate M&Ms, and we bought Smarties and most that kind of stuff.
01:24:10
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yeah yeah and my mom just had me practice swallowing them whole but um with water and like if you couldn't get it down and it came back up it's just like it's just candy it's chocolate or whatever so it wasn't like it had a bad taste or anything it wasn't like yeah it's just kind of melt um so i got really good i would practice doing that like until i got really good at swallowing all the pills um kick my ass and yeah pill swallowing competition
01:24:41
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this reddit thread i saw that was like what are you 99 better than 99 percent of people it yeah swallowing m&ms um just then it was funny no don't say that i swallow um
01:25:00
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But no, it actually came back around later in my life because when I got braces on, um normally people eat, like, I don't know, mushed up bananas or applesauce and yogurt and jello for, like, for the first the first couple weeks because your teeth hurt so bad.
01:25:18
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um But i had gotten so good at swallowing stuff, I... I could still just swallow a whole, like, a i wouldn't take large bites of stuff, but I could still just swallow it whole. Like a baby Yeah, so i um my mom made me stew the one day, so I was swallowing, like, diced potatoes whole with, like, diced carrots and peas and everything, just swallowing everything whole.
01:25:45
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had Kraft dinner, um would just swallow it. Yeah. like Yeah, so like I didn't have to eat the baby food. I didn't have to eat baby food essentially for two weeks because I could just follow everything.
01:25:58
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Oh yeah, that's yeah, because that's insults. When you have to. Yeah, and I hate jello and I don't want to eat mushed banana. Like just awful.
01:26:09
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So yeah, she just made some hatated jello too. think they had a crusty one one time. You can't let it get crusty. Like without covering the top.
01:26:22
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Yeah. Oh my lord. ah like pudding though. i like pudding.
01:26:32
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oh Bill Cosby, you ruined all your stupid old yellow commercials pu and po jello pop. You do the pudding pop thing too.
01:26:44
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i think so. I never got into pudding pops. and no
01:26:52
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love a good fresh like do the hot ones on the stove and you make them fresh those are cool we used to do those now we just do like the the box one you get from jello that like you had the milk and it's just pistachio oh yes we love the pistachio one up nut yeah just love that green food coloring a handful of bits of pistachio they literally oh god i'm sorry i'm sorry it's like pistachio extract and green food coloring yeah it's good it's like the pistachio muffins are all fucking green inside too man
01:27:35
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yeah do what my family does we buy the little um graham cracker or a little like almost uh butter tart tart shells you can buy them pre-made and then you make the pistachio pudding and you put it in the tart shells and then you get some whipped cream and you put it on the top and now you have an upscale dessert dang i mean like yeah yeah especially that graham cracker crust like oh i just made a bunch of those rocky road squares and Rain will just be like, don't throw it out. I'm going to eat all the crumbs that fell on the bottom.
01:28:07
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Yes. um Absolutely. Also, we will not go on another tangent, but they did ask one of the questions they got of called in to ask on the handsome pod.
01:28:18
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I listened to, what's your top three favorite nuts? And mine were like the same as fortunes. so Anyway, and we dont need we don't have time to get into a nut debate.
01:28:30
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Yeah. pistachio clearly cashews number one oh no three
01:28:41
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pistachio peanut and then ah probably hazelnut because i just love hazelnuts spread whoa left field um we're gonna need to add this to our patreon segment because we're We're doing top 10 movie recs. Top 3 nuts.
01:29:01
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Top 3 nuts.
01:29:04
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People are going to be like, thought this was about top 3 movies to nut to.
01:29:12
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oh my god. I'm going to have to cut this all out, you guys. and We're like, The Conjuring. No.
01:29:21
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o I'm sorry. It was just so sad. It's like crying. It's like laughing in church. We just had to go the other way. I'm crying. Don't cry, Alana. It's okay.
01:29:32
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You can get her.
01:29:36
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Oh, shit. I had one more sentence about her. no. Okay. okay She now lives in Edmonton. Hey, girl. um And thinking back to that time in her life and what might have happened, she does say, i just can't imagine it runs cold fear through me.
01:29:52
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Yeah. Survivor. ah Survivor.
Experiments and Paranormal Activities at Charles Camsell
01:29:57
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um Okay, so as you were prepared for, they did do some horrible experimentation along with their treatment.
01:30:11
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Quote-unquote shock treatments, which, you know, sound very nasty. um weird nutritional experiments where they would deprive some people of certain vitamins to kind of see what effect it had which is very low Japanese sort of yeah in that unit 731 and there was some sterilization so sorry yeah a little trigger warning in our
01:30:47
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show notes for my case um uh yeah and something that just said experimental surgeries which i don't like to think about no thank god it's closed um yeah it was like gordo was behind me full-on snoring i can hear him from across the room
01:31:15
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No, he's not close enough to the mic. Sounds crazy. can hear it with the headphones in my ear.
01:31:25
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okay so end of the history. Torn down once before it was converted into a general hospital in the 60s. It has been abandoned now since the 90s and just like in your case bought by a developer wants to renovate it.
01:31:44
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What are they going to turn it into? Condos. Oh, fuck.
01:31:52
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A living residential condo, comminium condo whatever. it First they've got to remove the asbestos and other unsafe debris and ghosts. No. can't do that.
01:32:07
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um A group called Paranormal Explorers because this was from ParanormalExplorers.com They didn't seem to have another name. Their team went in and did an investigation, ah which again, yeah, it wasn't recommended to go there. It was trespassing for most of its life now.
01:32:29
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They saw elevators moving on their own with no power hooked up to them and heard footsteps through the three foot cement floors and heard screams echoing through the psych ward, of course.
01:32:44
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They also heard EVPs on their walkie-talkies and one a young girl haunting the psych ward that was asking where her parents were and apparently scratching her arms.
01:32:57
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So... Oh, Pox! oop That's sad. Probably that too. um a butp Yeah, there wasn't a lot of specific ghosts, so I...
01:33:11
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I found what I could from the personal comments of experiences on like different Reddit threads.
01:33:19
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This was from a Most Haunted Places in Edmonton thread where... oh an indecipherable screen name. Ixen Touchblexel. What?
01:33:32
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I don't know. It's like a keyboard scratch.
01:33:38
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There's the word touch in the middle, yeah, and then there's a lot of X's. um But they said, they commented seven years ago, top floor at the General Hospital in downtown. Mom used to be a nurse there. She said that she'd be sitting at the triage nurse station thing, and she'd just casually see a wheelchair roll past.
01:33:55
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Oh, hell no. I thought that one was pretty funny. It just stops in front of you, and you go, hi, and then it keeps rolling. Yeah, with the wheels squeaking slowly.
01:34:07
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oh Also told me back in the day they had ghost hunting crews and such so investigations there or such do investigations there. The basement too. I didn't see any.
01:34:18
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Oh, this is a reply from Nordic mug. The basement too. Nordic mug. I didn't see anything, but the feeling down there is creepy as all hell. And I'm not one to be creeped out.
01:34:31
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Not by basements. I'm creeped out by any basement. This final one on that thread is from GiveMeDuckPix.
01:34:43
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That's going to be me someday. Every day we're like, well, when I walk the dog with Pat on the weekend, it's like, are those ducks today? What about those ducks? There's some new ducks today. There was new ducks that had whiteheads and brown bodies.
01:34:57
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Anyway. um Send Alana your duck pics. Ooh la la. I am GiveMeDuckPix. It was me duck pics. She's thirsty for them duck pics.
01:35:09
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Oh my god. This is gonna be one of those things I forget about saying and then my brother's gonna text me. Here's a duck pic. Ew. Does Pat know you're asking for duck pics from random men?
01:35:25
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Everything's gonna autocorrect. You know it's going to. It's not gonna say duck. what's our automatic transcription gonna say? No. Alright.
01:35:39
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This comment better be good. Was at the general a while ago and one of the employees took me and my friends to the basement. Go to see the apparently haunted boiler room and the electrical room where someone was electrocuted.
01:35:50
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Also took us to the abandoned surgical unit that is supposed to be haunted. it was pretty cool, not too creepy, but definitely eerie.
01:35:59
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Um... Yeah. And there was something that commented about like the wing. don't know. I think that's when I was trying to get Google if it was the same, the general hospital still meant the cam cell.
01:36:14
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Um, oh and there was a, this book, the ghost stories of Alberta by Barbara Smith. And she had a, a chapter or whatever that was called the wings voices so I'm pretty sure it's about this hospital but they are very cagey about saying what kind of building it is like it says the following tale about a well-known Edmonton landmark but it doesn't say ah ones a public building this particular haunted place was purchased several years ago by an adjacent business so I think it's the same one
01:36:55
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Um, so yeah, someone talked about their employer bought it at great financial risk. Um, doesn't think it's haunted. There,
01:37:08
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there was a fighter plane left behind that had to be dismantled. so I was like, it was used for the military. that's a weird. Yeah. And he said, that's what I think when the haunting started, there's a paragraph about,
01:37:23
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Ken explaining moving the plane out seemed to start a lot of bizarre so tales from our staff lots of times they tell me that they could hear people talking when they were cleaning up after banquets see I don't know banquets what they would have been hosting there then like do hospitals have banquets sometimes they'll have like yeah um I went to one here that was like people that had been in the the children's hospital and stuff they did a banquet for them and their families and like
01:37:53
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Yeah, we just had to go there and then we had like a free dinner and everything. And then um it was around Christmas time because then they took us in limousines to through like a drive through Christmas light.
01:38:12
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. of the parks. And that was like a banquet, they called it. And we had to reserve tickets and stuff for it. Okay. So maybe they they would normally have a banquet hall.
01:38:23
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Yeah. That's very cool to know. Also cool you got to do that.
01:38:31
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Yeah. That was making me doubt. I was like, oh, I don't know if I'm just making myself think that this story is about that. yeah, people hear voices. No, because if they do conferences and stuff and, like, presentations, they would normally like, some sort of banquet hall. If they have visitors and they need to do something I never thought about that. Yeah. Yeah.
01:38:54
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A symposium, maybe. was like, I just was in and out of the hospital with asthma and all I ever got was just those little puppets they'd give you for your fingers. All I was a sucker and a band-aid.
01:39:07
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Sometimes a popsicle. um but as it was it was Yeah, so they heard voices. Voices were always off in a distance where none of our staff were.
01:39:19
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Never paid much attention to the stories. um One night, this hardworking young man was given a very concrete reason oh of why he felt creeped out. It was late and I was giving the place a last check before locking up for the night. Everyone else had left.
01:39:34
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As I entered the building, I heard a piano being played. The music was clear and beautiful. It was most definitely coming from inside the building. Despite the man's love of music, he turned and fled from the sounds.
01:39:45
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Yeah. Yeah. Be like, and I'm out. Goodbye. Yeah, and he's like, now I pay more attention to the stories I hear about it. That's creepy, yeah. um So yeah, that was not a lot. And there was one more that I found on Reddit that someone posted about when they went in there.
01:40:09
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What do you want? that's The story first or what's been filmed in the building? Let's end with that. What? Yeah, let's do the story and then what's been filmed there. Mission Impossible. i What are we talking about?
01:40:24
Speaker
yeah I love to end with what movies have been filmed in a place. It's great. um Okay, yes, this is a story from Redditor called CreepedOut31. was posted on our slash paranormal.
01:40:38
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ah And I had to give paragraphs to it because he didn't do that. you'd have to read those long oh i hate that no just a block yes uh yeah so i might even shorten a little uh but basically it happened to myself my older brother i'll call him omar and a couple of our friends he was 18 uh they went ghost hunting out to a cemetery and they got bored there and they said let's go to this hospital nearby
01:41:10
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this cemetery is boring This hospital is surely going to be better. Yeah, at least more dangerous. At least we'll be trespassing.
01:41:21
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yeah Committing us ah a crime. So my brother Omar drove there. It was about five minutes away. we pull up to this hospital and it was fenced off with no trespassing signs posted all over.
01:41:34
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Now, I do not condone trespassing anywhere. Make sure you get proper permission before doing any ghost hunts. But we were young and dumb, so yeah. Anyways, but it gets even better. When we pulled up and got out of the car, we walked along the fence to see if we could get in somehow. That's when we heard some voices coming.
01:41:52
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A siren?
01:41:55
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thought that was the cat! The police are coming! oh no, I think it's a fire truck. Jesus. There is a fire station right by my house, so a lot of times they come down our street.
01:42:09
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It's not even dark out, but I was like, did I hear a noise? Yes. The police, they're coming for them. For the story of trespassing. Hi, Gordo.
01:42:21
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I love it. That's probably all going picked up on the mic, too. Because you always get outside noises that are that loud. Poor Gordo up. Oh, my God. Oh, my Gordo. The Fat Man.
01:42:33
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The Fat Man. Um... but so sad man ah Oh, sorry. Where were Oh, yes. The voices.
01:42:48
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When we heard some voices coming from the front entrance of the hospital. So we ducked down. Shush. And silenced our voices. Yes, let's all do that, Gordo. It was a bunch of teens roughly the same age as us who were being escorted out of the place by security. I'd imagine they have had many vandals and teens looking for a thrill inside the hospital. they had security patrolling the area and checking out the hospital, too.
01:43:14
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yeah if it's an security guards yeah
01:43:20
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get out of here you hooligans instead of taking that as a warning to stay away they think well there's no security for five minutes or no security for a while and an open space not five feet from us sorry wow judgment full judgment we listen and we judge We quickly went through the small hole and went in. This place was spooky, I'll tell you, and dark. We had flashlights, obviously, and we headed through the main entrance and decided to go through the hospital floor by floor, starting from the basement.
01:43:57
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We went through with nothing happening, and it was pretty much a bust. Locked doors to some areas, and we were sure security would be coming around again soon. But before we left, Omar suggested we try one more floor up, and we agreed to it. Why the hell not, right? So we went up, and Omar didn't have his flashlights.
01:44:14
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It was dark and hard to see, but with the city lights and the moon illuminating inside a little, it was somewhat possible to walk around without a flashlight. He took the lead, being the oldest in this group. We followed behind with our flashlights when we all heard giggling.
01:44:25
Speaker
It was faint, but we all heard it. We stood still to see if we could hear it again. we all heard it again, same giggle, but it was more audible. It had to be from a child and we were getting a little freaked out when all of a sudden I see Omar dart straight down the hall.
01:44:40
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I ran behind him and I asked Omar, what the hell? And he said, I saw someone at the end of the hallway. I told him, slow down. For some reason, I felt uncomfortable about the situation. I don't know what it was, but something wasn't right.
01:44:52
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um um Omar was wearing a hoodie that night, lucky for him. I caught up to him. I grabbed him by the hoodie and pulled him back, dropping him to the floor because I had seen something in front of him that he must not have seen for whatever reason.
01:45:04
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Dude, what gives? He yells at me. And I said, Omar, look. And I saw in the flashlight about two feet in front of him and there right in the path he was headed was a big hole. Spelt W-H-O-L-E.
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A big hole. hole hole in the ground? A hole hole.
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last hole asshole. in the ground. Yeah. Big crack. A big crack. in A big hole and in the middle of this like cross section where it leads to other corridors.
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He got up and we stepped closer to the edge and it was straight shot down to the basement and we were several floors up. Now I know it was a basement because it was completely flooded at the time and I threw a stone or a piece of cement down the hole just to see how far down it went.
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and And sure enough we heard a splash at the end. Splish splash. After the stone hit the water, Omar and I heard a giggle again, and we looked up from the hole, and sure enough, on the other side of this massive hole was what I would say looked to be the figure of a little girl, and just as quickly as she was there, she was gone. Just gone again.
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had my flashlight, and I shone it in the direction of the little girl, but there was nothing. Just the corridor with some hospital beds. That's it.
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And then he just says, I know it was a long story, but I'm glad you stuck with it. Thanks, man. They did give him in the comments too for the punctuation. The too long didn't read.
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too long didn't read. I don't think
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did one. Someone's too long didn't read the other day was I typed this out so you're gonna have to.
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where did it go? okay You're so needy. stay over here.
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that was Omar's close call. Okay. I'm trying to wrangle this cat. It's a weird cat. No, but guess what they filmed there?
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Ginger Snaps 2 Unleashed. Really? Apparently? Now have to watch it. feel like it's not the good one. one Is it?
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I know the first one's alright.
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Oh god, now my thing needs to be charged. Shush. They also filmed... one of the Superman movies ah from the nineties with Dean Cain.
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It was called Superman. And they filmed scenes from a a movie called small sacrifices starring fair Fawcett and an episode of a show called fear itself.
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um And finally a film called both intern Academy and alternatively is sometimes called white coats starring Dan Aykroyd. And apparently a lady called Ingrid Cavalars, who was, it said, married to the Edmonton Oilers coach, but that was a former coach because his his name was Dallas Eakins.
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Yeah. ah And another fun fact. My last fun fact was, now this is my last, this is how I'm ending on it. Oh God. Tommy Chong's dad died there.
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Bummer, man.
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He's from Edmonton. I don't even know what happening. Tommy Chong is? I don't know
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that. I'm pretty sure. so i was like, yeah, that tracks. Yeah. We've got some famous folk that are from this neck of the woods.
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Wow. There you have it. I love Tommy Chong. Look at this. Look at this cat. Look at this baby. He's a fat cat. He's very floofy.
01:48:47
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Yeah, look at his little face. He's like, Mom, I need some attention before you go to the movie with your friend. date, movie date. Oh yeah. ah Don't forget to like and subscribe and all the things. Give us the five stars. You can do it. It just takes a second and you know, it helps us out a lot. Do it.
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And
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01:49:25
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uh we just picked our next one it's gonna be fun we're gonna do some movie recs and uh yeah non-recs non-recommendations no uh yeah recommendations for the good the bad and the ugly for some movies and I think it should be fun. We haven't done it before, but... We should do that. We should do three lists.
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The good movies, then the bad movies that are fun to watch, and then the movies that are... Hard to watch? Yeah, hard to watch, ah bad CGI, bad acting.
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The good, the bad, and the ugly. damn where would Tusk fall into that? That was just hard to watch because it was... ah Gross. I never... Oh, so the first time I tried watching it, I watched...
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maybe 60 to 75 percent of the movie okay and then i stopped and was like no like i'm not even enjoying this and then it was like a couple years later that it was like i need to finish this movie so i instead of re-watching the whole thing i just started it from oh basically the last scene i remembered and then watched to the end and was like okay i've seen it now i know yeah yeah now know thanks kevin smith yeah um yeah no it should be fun um yeah and then we hope you guys will comment your your likes and dislikes too yeah uh follow uh join patreon then come up with your own lists and see if how many of them are the same as ours
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like a movie. It's like a book club. And then we'll watch all the movies. We'll watch 60 movies. Maybe instead of top 10, we'll do 5.
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Me and Ressa making Rain watch things like Troll 2. And she's like, what is this? I may have seen the first one. i honestly don't even know. What's so funny is the second one.
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had nothing to do with trolls they just decided it was going to be troll too and so that's why they never say the word it's like that one's got some lore to it it's it's definitely gonna have to be on my list because yeah like that russa recommended that one to me so it's got a pretty special place of my heart gordo says bye look at this little face but carddo he's getting a cuddles in yeah it's very cute You are very brown. Like a wood duck.
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How much wood we would wood duck die?
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Send duck pics! And cat pics! We want all the pet pics, you guys. Always. Never stop. Nobody sends us them, but they should. I know. You should start.
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Be the first one. Castlesandcripteds at gmail.com or Instagram or anywhere. Yeah, literally anywhere. Yeah. We will talk to you. no We love you. We love you all.
01:52:33
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Thanks for listening. yeah Catch you next week. What are we talking about next week? oh Sports crimes. Sports crimes. who Crime and sport. Sport.
01:52:46
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We do the sport. I did that all week and I could not remember where I got sport from. I don't remember why we're saying it. People at work were very confused because i they were talking about like the hockey games and i was like, oh, you like to watch the sport?
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Sport. And I'm very good at maths. Yes, because we were talking about sports. I keep, kept getting ads for the, you're going to love the socially distant sport guests or whatever it was called.
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ah Kept doing that at work. You want to wear the Jersey to support the sport, the sport team. What's your favorite sport team? Oh God. Those things that just catch on. And then they're just in your, um, what's it called? Familect, your family dialect.
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It's great. that's All right. Yes. Sport. Yeah. I'm going to get a soundbite for the next one. It's just going be sport. and We're just going to keep doing it. Like disaster. hours just did recently were They did the, um, the poop cruise, the one where all the toilets break. And then he just kept doing a soundbite that went poop from SpongeBob at the most inopportune times and catching us all off guard. It was a really good episode.
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Disaster hour. Go listen, but listen to us first. Okay. Bye. but
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