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The Meat Smelled Old
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This week the boys take a spiritual journey to American Cheeseburger in Rochester, NY, the only resturant in the country where you can get bloody violence and a deep fried cheeseburger with a side of freedom fries. Holy shit this is a weird one... Also, believe it or not we're talking Cody Rhodes, Roman Reigns Vs Sami Zayn and Garrett's newfound dislike of the Great One.
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Transcript
Reunion and Wrestling Excitement
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me, as always, the whole fucking team is here today. The boys are back in town. We're all here. It's the first time in a while we've all been here together. Yeah, it's like Christmas in February. It's a gift to be with you guys, all of you guys. And really, I'll be honest, this is the most excited I've been in a minute.
00:01:04
Speaker
to record an episode, there is something that we came across over the weekend. Oh, you're talking about all the stuff with Sammy Zane and Roman Reigns and Cody Rhodes. Yes. Yes. I can't wait to get into all of that, Garrett. Not exactly facts. Oh, facts.
Dark Web Humor and Slap Fighting Critique
00:01:25
Speaker
Have you heard of the dark web?
00:01:28
Speaker
The Dark Web, I saw that Chris Hemsworth movie that dealt with it. Yeah. So yeah, I'm an expert. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think that actually pretty much covers what we're doing. So there is The Dark Web where you can buy drugs and probably illegal pornography and humans. Yeah.
00:01:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's bad news bears on that dark web. But then there's a second dark web that you can actually get for $50 a year fax. A darker web and it's only $50 a year? That's what I paid for some streaming services. Well, that being said, it turns out it is also a streaming service. It's Fight Plus.
00:02:10
Speaker
Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, that's a pretty dark web. That is a dark web. But I pretty much stayed to like my GCW and my slap fighting. I haven't really gone into the dark recesses. Are you guys saying that you ventured? Oh.
00:02:28
Speaker
So let me give you the context here, facts. Because I think the context here is important. So Saturday night, I'd returned home from a work trip. My wife and daughter were away. So I'd watched a lot of wrestling that day. Just a lot. Like two episodes of Rampage, one episode of Dynamite, a New Japan show, a documentary about China.
00:02:50
Speaker
um i watched a little bit of slap fighting which is real sad guys if you haven't watched power slap and you want to feel the deepest possible sadness for another human do that do that because now they've gotten to the part of power slap where they're giving a background about these people that have decided to get slapped in the face and let me tell you
00:03:15
Speaker
You're going to really question why they decided to put this on television. I know some guys that know their way around the dark web for sure. This is guys who don't know their way around a computer fax. This bums me out. As a man who has watched at least 15 hours of slap fighting on Fight Plus,
00:03:36
Speaker
they do a really good job of not telling you anything about these people and letting you judge a book by its cover. And in slap fighting, I think that that might actually be the best way to view it. When you humanize these people, it really lets you know how barbaric this sport is. They're all just doing it for their kids, and particularly the kids they had with the first baby mama, who they're not in good terms with.
00:04:04
Speaker
I wonder what the kids think about all this, of like, yeah, well, dad's doing it for me. Do they get into that? I would. I mean, if my dad was willing to get slapped for me, I'd be like, yeah, that's pretty cool, dad. If there's one thing that the rest of my family tells about dad, it's that he's known for how good his decisions are. Slap fighting is just one more example of that great decision making.
00:04:27
Speaker
There's two things I do that my dad taught me.
Nostalgia and Wrestling Memories
00:04:30
Speaker
Eat my steaks well done and take a slap from a guy from the south. So I watched a lot of wrestling, but I decided my evening, I was like, I got nothing else to do this evening. I'm going to do some laundry.
00:04:45
Speaker
but I'm gonna watch some wrestling, more wrestling. And I puffed in, so PowerDad5000 on Instagram, Sal, great guy, did a fundraiser for Jay Briscoe's family. And it's just, it was a VHS tape with the three Briscoe's FTR matches in a row.
00:05:05
Speaker
So I watched the first two of those. God damn, they're amazing. I think I'd been under rating number two, honestly, in my recollection, because that match is goddamn amazing. It's like 45 minutes and it's insane. Uh, and then Garrett text me, he's like, Hey, Ozzy's in bed. You want to hop, I'll hop on and watch the, the wherever you're at. And I was like, Oh, I'm about to just about to start the dog collar match.
00:05:29
Speaker
So we watched the dog collar match together, which got to tell you it's still just as good as the first time. Um, frankly, in the context of all three of them, even more incredible because the progression in violence, you can see it happen over like two hours. It's incredible. Um, scared and they're hanging out and like, okay, we finished the tape. We finished, uh, this great classic wrestling match.
00:05:55
Speaker
We get to talking about watching the things we used to watch. We watch a little bit of PWG, a match that Garrett was at. Roddy Strong and Zack Sabre Jr., right? Yeah, I think it was at All Star Weekend and it was the one where Zack takes the title off Roddy after Roddy's had the belt for a couple of years or however long he'd had it. Yeah, a good conversation about the unique environment of PWG and the fans. And then Garrett says to me,
00:06:24
Speaker
Chris, there's a short thing I want to watch because we're talking about what to watch next. I was like, Oh, okay. Okay. He's like, I really want to watch MAGA Butcher against Dilfoy. Now, if I could just ask a quick question. Sure. Before you started watching or before Garrett made the suggestion, was there any talk of or overt ingestion of Dixie Crystal?
00:06:55
Speaker
Uh, just a little, just a little, I admit it. Yeah. My penis was free. What was I going to do? Not shove some, some, some, some Dixie crystal up there. Someone pointed out by the way, Dixie crystal is sugar. That, that is a thing, but that can't be what he means here because if he puts sugar on his halftime,
00:07:21
Speaker
What does that even mean? Unless halftime is a euphemism for... Hardee says he doesn't put Dixie Crystal in his halftime, which to me is an implication that he's seen rich people do that. Like that Shania Twain is just dropping Dixie Crystal all over her halftime and he's seen that. Or, I mean, again, like...
00:07:44
Speaker
Who brought up Dixie Crystals in halftime? I mean, it's just one of those things of like, you don't say, oh, you don't just casually like sit down to dinner and be like, hey, you know what, I never hit my kid. Like, wait, I didn't think that, but when you come in and just call attention to it, now I'm kind of thinking you probably hit your kid, like earlier today.
00:08:07
Speaker
Well, so originally that text about Dixie Crystal was sent to us by John Veron, who has been on the show multiple times. And he sent me a link to actually purchase it and said, it's sugar, dumbass. And as I
Wrestling Matches and Venue Peculiarities
00:08:25
Speaker
sent you guys that, at the same time, both of you sent, I have no idea what halftime means, though.
00:08:33
Speaker
And I think that that's kind of the brilliance of Hardy and maybe why Triple H booked him because the lyrics do make you think. You know, you can't just it's not something that you're going to get everything on the first roll around. You have to listen to it five, eight, twenty seven times before you even start to grasp.
00:08:56
Speaker
what this man's been through, what he's talking about, you know. So I just, I just quickly googled urban dictionary halftime and there's not really a clear one. The first thing comes up is like at a buffet when you take a break, but the one I'm gravitating to is the link number four, halftime talk, which it says the point halfway through a threesome when the two male participants change ends and discuss strategy.
00:09:24
Speaker
Which is just a perfect sentence. He's not going to sugarcoat his halftime. Like he is. He's the fucking quarterback of this threesome. He doesn't need the fucking linesman's help like he's. Yeah, that's exactly what Hardy meant. That's the only thing he could have possibly meant. It's clear as day. Oh, it's the clearest sentence in recorded history.
00:09:53
Speaker
So Garrett and I are just, you know, we're, we decide Garrett wants to watch. It's time to watch mega butcher and Delph boy. And, um, we turn it on. We find, again, it's on XPW episode 33 available for free, not just on actually on fight plus. If you have fight, you don't even have to pay for this. This is free for the whole world. So you just need internet access.
00:10:19
Speaker
You just need internet access to watch this. Yeah. Cause a fight account is free. I don't think you even need to, to provide a payment source. Yeah. So you're telling me this wasn't on the dark web. This was just on the fucking internet regular. Like, no, it's still dark. It's still dark Garrett. Well, the content is, but like the same guy who knows how to get to msnbc.com could also feasibly find this match.
00:10:46
Speaker
And presumably there are a lot of people searching for terms like MAGA and DILF and Vulture in a Bing search in their Microsoft Internet Explorer browser and probably finding this. Here's what I was curious about. So I had envisioned in my mind that this incident took place in a wrestling ring.
00:11:09
Speaker
Same. Oh, see, now based on your conversation with Heater some weeks back, to me it was very clear that this did not happen in a wrestling ring. Interesting. I guess, I mean, I had seen a photograph, so I assumed kind of that it was in a no ring bar situation, but I didn't anticipate
00:11:34
Speaker
the location of the fight. I think that a lot more shocking things happened to us watching this, Chris, just taking in the surroundings. And it was also kind of bizarre that it was clearly filmed intentionally for a TV show. That's the part I found surprising. Setting, of course, bizarre. But
00:11:57
Speaker
The fact that like the way, especially like heater described it, I thought this was going to be something like you had to be there. This video will never get out. And here is for fucking free on anyone with an internet Explorer.
00:12:11
Speaker
I thought, what I thought was fasting. So, so if you haven't seen the video out there and again, I, I can't recommend it more or less, not really sure. Um, either it's the best thing you'll ever see or the worst. And it's up to you. You have to be up for it. So the, the first thing, right? Is, is maggot butcher comes out and he just, he just punches dill boy straight in the face. Loud crack. And
00:12:37
Speaker
You have to acknowledge this part, Chris, because I did rewatch it, because we talked over it. I rewatched it full audio. Schlack is the commentator here. And there is no commentary. And just to clarify, so you guys told me to watch this link. So I watched like an hour ago. I did not watch it with you over the weekend. And yeah, like that was one like I've so many like the episode opens up in the porn store.
00:13:03
Speaker
Um, he's talking about who've interviewed Guerrero. I don't know. There's a really long intro and then it's like, like, I didn't even realize, wait, Slack is the ring announcer and the champion and the commentator and the commentator. And there's a great scene in that intro video where Slack just licks up a large ice cream cone. This is maybe my favorite scene in wrestling history. Honestly, it's that it's number one. I get the impression that they probably pay Slack, but they probably don't need to.
00:13:32
Speaker
He's just enjoying it. He's doing it for the love of the dark web. The dark web is actually the only place you can find Schlock's album as well. I still haven't listened to his CD because I don't know how to maneuver through the dark web. I need that Hemsworth knowledge. Got to watch the movie.
00:13:54
Speaker
But go, yeah, I'm sorry, go on Chris. No, cause I think my favorite part then is that Dilfboy, perhaps logically, right? He runs away through it. And no, again, they're, they're in like an enclosed like ring barrier, like enclosed tiny space.
00:14:11
Speaker
But you're right next to the door. You can see the door of this place. And he sprints out of there, and then a man in a trench coat goes and talks to Dilfboy, and Dilfboy comes back. And with the audio on, I mean, the first punch
00:14:31
Speaker
that it's a loud crack to the jaw, just a right to the jaw. There's a crack, and throughout, Schlack is not talking to the audience, because the microphone is the PA system, but Schlack picks it up and goes, oh shit, it's getting real.
00:14:45
Speaker
And when this guy comes back, you can hear MAGA yelling to the crowd, just hold on, I'm teaching him a lesson. Like, it isn't even like promo MAGA butcher. This is just, I've got something to do tonight, folks. You're here for it, but I'm teaching a man a lesson. And I don't know if we got to learn the lesson other than at the very beginning, DILFBOY oversells so hard.
00:15:14
Speaker
getting touched by Magga Butcher. He fucking Sean Michels him against Hogan, you know, he's flying across the room. And after that, he just gets his fucking ass beat by an old man. An old man with a very well manicured curly mustache, which I was not. I did not like I'm not going to lie at first. I said, wait, I I thought Magga Butcher was Necro Butcher. Who's this guy?
00:15:44
Speaker
Who's this Williamsburg liberal in here beating up Dilfoy? Yeah, exactly. In fact, so I wanna ask, where do you think this took place? Okay, so when you first, during the entrances, you can see very clearly there's a concession stand on one side. However, that appears to be
00:16:14
Speaker
where the camera is because then for the majority of the actual event it's pointing in the other direction and it appears to just be like a storefront and it looks like there's things like again it might be for the actual wrestling like there's like fluorescent light tubes but it honestly looks like the way that when you walk by like um this pharmacy closed and in three weeks it's going to reopen as a cvs it kind of had that vibe
00:16:45
Speaker
Why there's a concession stand, I don't know. So here's my guess. I think it's the porn store.
00:16:51
Speaker
And I think that they have concession stands there because sometimes when people are just really going at it, giving it to themselves, helping themselves to a piece of themselves in one of those booths in the back of the porn store, they need a soft pretzel that's been spinning for a while and maybe a Coke fountain soda. So I think it was the back of the porn store.
00:17:16
Speaker
You aren't wrong, it is kind of like when you give blood, you need an orange juice afterwards to replantish. And this is, yeah, you need a coke and some peanut M&Ms. I like the logic of that fact. And it's also a place where, if that were true, you would be okay with a little bit of light tube broken and maybe some blood on the floor. You'd just maybe accept that. A lot of fluids. A lot of fluids. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot of water. A lot
00:17:45
Speaker
of finding out where we were. Well, first off, we'll tell you we're in Rochester, New York. We're in Rochester, New York. A place I've visited a number of times. I used to go there every summer as a child. Never saw one single DILF boy. Schlack is one of my cousins.
00:18:11
Speaker
Oh, fuck. So cage match cage match calls it an arena, right? It says the arena where this is taking place, which is a hilarious term. The arena where this is taking place facts is called American cheeseburger. Now, you might ask yourself why? What could that possibly mean? Is it like I'm asking why is a porn star called American cheeseburger?
00:18:40
Speaker
That's because it's a place that sells cheeseburgers. Hmm. Yes. You can eat. You can eat food there. You can. They're cooking food in the back. What? Like at the exact same moment that Dilfboy is trying to headbutt MAGA Butcher and
00:19:04
Speaker
So I get laughed at while, while you're, while you're watching that facts, you can get, uh, in American cheeseburger 795, um, a glazed donut burger for 995. That sounds nice. That's a MAGA butcher special right there. Yes. And here's my favorite. A deep fried cheeseburger, which is 695 because they're making it worse for you.
00:19:32
Speaker
Yeah, they, you don't have the money to eat the American cheeseburger. You can have same burger, same ingredients, but we're going to make it wet and greasy. Uh, it's going to be worse. It is going to be an edible and you will pay us $1 less to save a little coin.
00:19:48
Speaker
I guess, I guess it makes sense, you know, with that crowd. I do have more questions all about this venue.
Rochester Wrestling Scene and American Cheeseburger
00:19:55
Speaker
So it was the because I only watched the one segment and the intro is the rest of the episode also at this American burger establishment.
00:20:04
Speaker
No, so it seems that there is a mix of matches from like the actual arena. Again, what a great word from the more like club shows and these tapings they seem to do at American Cheeseburger because they tape like five matches and they spread them out. You can't give them you can't give the fans all of the American cheeseburger matches in one episode. Sure. We'll come back. But of the matches at American Cheeseburger,
00:20:30
Speaker
Are any of them in a ring? Or are they all in that little entrance area? They're all in the entrance to American Cheeseburger. With about 15 fans. Yes, with about 15 fans who'd look, and there's actually, there's another one we watch where there's definitely a child. Which- Which probably just slacks posse. And that child is just really hard. Do you like- Future Slap Fighter, that kid.
00:21:00
Speaker
I'm here to make my dad proud. The dad is Slack. Do we know that Slack isn't the manager of American Cheeseburger and that's why it's happening here? It's so bizarre. They are fighting in such a small space.
00:21:18
Speaker
And there is broken glass. You can see that there's blood on the floor. Fuck. Magga Butcher enters from the kitchen shirtless. Like... That's not a pretty sight, just to be clear for anyone who hasn't seen it. Magga Butcher without a shirt. Like, if Magga Butcher came out of a pool with no shirt, I'm not getting in that pool.
00:21:45
Speaker
I actually just came up with the evolution of MAGA Butcher. From here, he is going to get woke and a Japanese girlfriend and he will become manga butcher or manga butcher. And he's going to be way more palatable to a larger audience. You can, although you can, by the way, at American Cheeseburger, acquire freedom fries.
00:22:11
Speaker
Yeah, if you're wondering where MAGA Butcher is headlining, a DILF boy beat down, it is in a place that still sells freedom fries. I mean, it's in the South Carolina district of Rochester, New York. Would you like to hear a couple Yelp reviews of American Cheeseburger before we get them shut down? Sure. Let's see, let's start with... I wonder if there's one in Philadelphia, Mississippi.
00:22:42
Speaker
Here's one from Matt A. Fairport, New York. One star, waitress, 31 years old, blonde hair pink highlights, insisted there is no public restroom. My husband and I were just trying to get some food. We'll never come again. Let's see, Morgan S. from Kingsville, Texas.
00:23:05
Speaker
was forced to leave the last time I stopped by because a fight broke out and did not receive food after buying it. When I stopped by the next week, the manager refused to own up for it the next week when we came by, scummy to take someone's money and not make an effort.
00:23:22
Speaker
Do you happen to think this was at the Delph boy show? Yes. They were getting, they didn't realize they were getting a free wrestling show. That was the deal. Yeah. Well, and even that first one was clearly just. Necro butcher just blowing up the bathroom for like 45 minutes at a time. And they're like, listen, if we don't let this couple use the bathroom, they're probably not coming back. If we let them use the bathroom after Necro butcher, they're never coming back.
00:23:51
Speaker
They're telling all their friends about it. There'll be legends about this place and not in the good way, in the dark web way. Fax, would you eat a cheeseburger from the place where I watched Buffalo Bill get syringes stuck in his cheeks? Because we did watch some other matches from this place, Fax.
00:24:15
Speaker
honestly had a nice little time watching some XPW. So I'm conflicted for a couple of reasons is that my instinct is to say no, but most of the food in Rochester is quite good. So I mean, Rochester is a good eating town. So it's probably excellent. But also because of that, it's a competitive market. I know the alternate Rochester burgers, maybe some some swaggles get some red hots and some white hots. I don't know.
00:24:44
Speaker
Admittedly, the main Rochester famous food is something called a garbage plate. Yeah, which is basically a burger or a hot dog or multiple on top of like macaroni salad and home fries and beans. Now, American cheeseburger does have their own version of that, which is called an American dream plate.
00:25:05
Speaker
That's two cheeseburgers, two sides with meat sauce, mustard and onion. But I, again, unless your dream, you know, is the sauce made of meat? Is that, is it like, like meat sauce, like, like spaghetti and meat sauce? Is that the way Dusty would have liked it? Uh, it's, it's slack, slack specialty. Well, I will not tell you Jimmy Lloyd's XPW name.
00:25:32
Speaker
I also feel like Delph boy probably wasn't paid for this, but they were like, you can, you can lady in the tramp a deep fried burger with Slack after the show. They, they kind of, uh, did the, he got what, do you remember in, um, fuck the wedding singer when he's teaching that old lady how to sing and she pays him by putting two meatballs in his hands. Slack ladles a couple.
00:25:57
Speaker
a couple things of meat sauce into Delphoy's hands. Is that shit running everywhere? The American Dream Plate, the American Dream Plate, it's only the dream for Buffalo Bill, who really enjoys the diarrhea afterwards. He likes the feeling. He's like, stick a syringe through my cheek and stick enough garbage through my body that I'm just shitting for three hours. Well, it actually is a wrestling thing going from dusty
00:26:25
Speaker
to Cody that every American dream turns into the American nightmare shortly after.
00:26:32
Speaker
I'll tell you, there's nothing more wrestle-friendly than a deep fried cheeseburger. Like this is a restaurant that knows its audience. They're here to watch people bleed and maybe have a heart attack. Just, yeah. Now Fax, did you watch the Jimmy Lloyd match we told you this film? I didn't. I was kind of, I was like with dinner with my wife by the time I got that link, yeah.
00:26:56
Speaker
you were able to eat after watching this like you were did it leave you with an appetite you're like you didn't even know but you were hungry for a cheeseburger i was just like wait is there some meat sauce coming no no i did have a little refractory um i am going due to mexico in a little over a week so i actually i turned off maga butcher
00:27:20
Speaker
Threw on a quick video on Mexico City taco tours, and then my wife made tacos. So I had that full refractory. So that was kind of the YouTube video on tacos was your palate cleanser, so you could wash the taste of mag out of your mouth. Exactly. You cannot get tacos at American Cheeseburger. There is a taco section of the menu, but it's blank.
00:27:49
Speaker
They want you to think about having a taco and then go, no, we don't do that here. This is where Magga Butcher is. And they had to pull it back. It used to just say ethnic food.
XPW's Unique Appeal and Future
00:28:02
Speaker
And then the only thing there was the deep fried cheeseburger.
00:28:07
Speaker
Um, but so the Jimmy Lloyd match, which is on episode 10, if anyone's looking for an evening. So Jimmy Lloyd wrestles the Buffalo bill guy before he gets really creepy in Rochester, in the little, in the little area.
00:28:21
Speaker
Um, in the place where I assume tables normally are at American cheeseburger. I do feel like we're moving right past this. So just XPW is just headquartered out of Rochester. Is this a, I feel like this is not what I expected based on the previous generation of XPW. Well, I guess that's where Rob Black had to move after they kicked him out of California. He's like, where can I go based like witness protection Rochester, New York.
00:28:49
Speaker
It's also the only restaurant he's allowed to eat in because everybody else saw the Vice Duck. They reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, Fex. Sure. They're not letting Rob Black into Dinosaur Barbecue. They have standards there. Fucking standards, okay, guys? He is not allowed to eat their delicious pulled pork. God damn it. You've been like a Bob Evans. That's not gonna fly.
00:29:16
Speaker
Also, I feel like I need to apologize to you guys, because this is kind of a theme throughout the history of predetermined, that I would stumble upon something, we would collectively say, this is bad, and then Garrett insists on taking a deeper dive into the thing that everybody says we shouldn't be watching in the first place. And here we are in XPW country, guys. Do we condone it? No. Do we like cheeseburgers? Yeah, so it's really confusing.
00:29:46
Speaker
Yeah. And that's why I don't recommend you watch it on site. Find the dark web version on Bing. Um, cause, cause that way there's no revenue ad revenue trickle back to Rob black. But if the, you don't get the ad revenue trickle back, how was Jimmy Lloyd going to buy another pack of cigarettes to smoke in the kitchen at American cheeseburger? Is that something that actually happened during the match? Cause I would believe it.
00:30:13
Speaker
He does not, on camera, smoke in the kitchen American cheeseburger, but I mean, come on. He does give the Mr. Buffalo Bill hard body, whatever he's called, a one-winged angel through a pane of glass in the middle of the restaurant, which I can't imagine was good for the ability of someone to walk into that restaurant the next day.
00:30:38
Speaker
That one-winged angel is actually in the opening credits of his other show on fight called You're Cooking with a Different Boy. And I feel like, you know, again, I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I read the Eddie Guerrero biography and like, you know, when Art Barr died, he took over the frog splash from him, you know, once he felt that he was worthy of it a little bit. So, I mean, imagine if anyone's worthy of the one-winged
00:31:07
Speaker
Angel. It's Jimmy Lloyd, right? It's Kenny and Jimmy. They're like, you know, two peas in a pod. Jimmy's clearly the natural heir to Kenny Omega. Yeah. Yeah, he's young, you know, he's a young boy. Can you imagine Jimmy being a young boy over at New Japan and the little black drugs?
00:31:26
Speaker
And fucking, if Kenny Omega injured Chris Jericho, giving the one-wing angel, where Jericho never wants to take it again, can you imagine what the fucking body felt like? I think that was a guy's name. The Buffalo Bill guy was the body. But yeah, taking that shit through a pane of glass at the fucking cheeseburger store in Rochester. It is a, God damn, guys. Like, what have we found and why,
00:31:55
Speaker
Haven't I already watched every episode? This guy, the body, that we saw again, this is episode 10 with Jimmy Lloyd, 33 with Magga. We continued watching and the body shows up. His gimmick now is he's Buffalo Bill. He came out in a Buffalo Bill's jersey, but his promo after the match, he's doing the Buffalo Bill like, would you fuck me, I'd fuck me, while putting lipstick on. And as the camera pans down, his dick is tucked between his legs.
00:32:25
Speaker
Sure. This is the kind of stuff you don't get in NXT 2.0. If you're looking for a different kind of wrestling, this is it, guys. This is it. Yeah. If you've been waiting to watch a man get hit with a light tube while wearing fishnet stockings and lipstick and a Buffalo Bill's Jersey, importantly, this is the show for you.
00:32:49
Speaker
I mean, I'm not going to lie. I didn't see this segment, but I was probably only halfway through the opening theme when I, when I realized, cause I don't know about you with the UI for me on fight. It doesn't actually give me the episode numbers. It just gives me the date. So I defined the episode. So I saw, Oh, they publish an episode every week and midway through the credits. I'm like, Oh man, I don't know why I'm not watching this for a week.
00:33:18
Speaker
And there's good people on the show. That's part of the weird thing. We watched. We watched a tie of Valkyrie match. She was good. She didn't. She didn't quite go as hardcore. The other lady was very hardcore. She took a gusset plate to the back. Tia Tia like kicked a gusset plate into this lady's back.
00:33:35
Speaker
And Taya did get her butt scratched up a bit because, you know, she is throwing this other lady through glass. So there is some residual glass to Taya, but for some reason, Taya's going there. I mean, that show was in Pomona. So I'm wondering if it's like people who live in LA, that it's easy to get them to make the hour drive up to Pomona. Yeah, but I watched that women, a little bit of the women's tournament, Chelsea Green wrestled the daughter or like
00:34:04
Speaker
niece or she's the anyway, she's related to Supreme, who was the original one of the original kings of the deathmatch from XPW. And they had I mean, they didn't. Again, it didn't get they did a brawl like the Chelsea Green was not doing pains of class. What I heard lady looked like she was willing to take it if she if Chelsea Green was like, I'm going to throw you some class, you'd be like, sure.
00:34:28
Speaker
What I heard in that basically was that nepotism isn't just in the business world. It is also in the deathmatch world. You can be born into this as well. By the way, I don't know if either one of you looked at upcoming events.
00:34:45
Speaker
XPW is hosting because I was just curious to see if it's just a list of like every Tuesday in Rochester. And it's not. Interestingly enough, the second one listed is in Newark, New Jersey in March. It's actually I looked Chris, it's not far from my place. That's where I watched the the Schlack versus Drake Younger match.
00:35:11
Speaker
It looked like there was a nice little balcony for you to stand in so you don't have to get the shit on you. You can avoid it pretty well and watch people get pretty gross. Yeah, and I would imagine they'll probably bring some deep fried cheeseburgers to sell at the concession stand. Those travel well. It seals the juices within, isn't it? Rochester's only probably about seven and a half hours from here.
00:35:40
Speaker
We found it was facts. I think we found a new, like we get the Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot. We got boot in New Jersey. And I do think we all kind of want to see some wrestling in a cheeseburger restaurant. Yeah. And I see in, in, in episode 34, which I don't know if you guys saw the episode, but in the YouTube like static image before you'd play, I see Enzo in it. Enzo Amore.
00:36:07
Speaker
in the restaurant, flipping burgers? Probably. But yeah, no, NZO appears like he's in XPW. I will say, one thing I don't like about this New York show is the tickets appear to start at $50. Well, they only sell 15, Chris. We've already established that. And they pay the boys. That's why Dilfboy got his ass beat.
00:36:37
Speaker
He didn't pay the boys. So here's, here's the list of people. Although I will say, by the way, I don't, I'm looking, the front row is almost sold out already. I mean, it's like some of these smaller GCW shows in boot and you can get front row day up, but, uh, I don't know. XPW is doing business guys. They're the future.
00:37:00
Speaker
For a mere $80, we can sit front row to watch Slack, Masada, Ludark Shaytan. She's the lady. She's the, the violent death match mass lady. Um, Drake, younger Sage sin Supreme. That's Supremes again, kid or relation, mega butcher cat Martini, whoever that is. Jasmine St. Clair, of course.
00:37:25
Speaker
Why else, where wouldn't Jasmine St. Clair be? The body and Big F and Joe. Big F and Joe did that deathmatch tournament with no pants on and what do you have? He had like no knee pads, no, he was bumping gross. I think he was just doing it in like Heidi Whitey's.
00:37:46
Speaker
Facts. I think we got to do this because if we get the front row ringside seats, not only did we get a poster. We get early entry spelled E N T R E Y. So that's definitely special and a meet and greet with who?
00:38:02
Speaker
It does not say, but honestly, does it matter? It's going to be Delph boy. It's going to be Delph boy. But, but we get to just crack them right in the skull as hard as we can. Right by the, like we didn't talk about, there's also lots of headbutting of Delph boy. Yes. I mean, we don't like, honestly, it's probably best. We don't talk about too much, you know, from a standpoint. Yeah.
00:38:27
Speaker
No, you're not wrong though, like there are points where Dilfboy throughout seems to act like it's still pro wrestling, like he's trying to throw like forearms in the neck so it doesn't hurt Necrobutcher, I guess. And then Necrobutcher just like stands back and just like, crack, right one in the jaw and then he falls down again.
00:38:45
Speaker
And then Dilfboy, like a couple minutes later, will get up, start chopping his chest. I'm like, motherfucker, do you only know fighting from pro wrestling? That doesn't do anything. You are in an actual fight now. You are getting punched. Quit chopping this guy. You dumb bitch. And the fans are chanting, we're sick fucks, as this is happening. And then the other guy comes in, and it's unclear. And the crowd has no idea who he is. And it's unclear.
00:39:15
Speaker
Is this part of the booked match that he's supposed to be running in, or is he like actually cares about human life and is trying to protect this little wounded bird that is Dilfboy? I love you, Dilfboy. Here's the other thing that keeps bothering Dilfboy.
00:39:40
Speaker
It's that he's both a dillf and a boy, which doesn't really make a lot of sense. I think you gotta be a dillf man. If you're gonna be a dillf, I think it's time to be a man. Well, obviously he isn't a man. He went in there and still played pro wrestling with a guy who was beating his ass. Honestly, you shouldn't be a dillf then. You shouldn't be a dad anyone would like to fuck if you can't be a man too.
00:40:10
Speaker
Well, the DILF is in the eye of the beholder, man. It's a DILF is subjective, you know? Who really wants, I mean, is there anyone who says, who looked at that man and said, he's my DILF. Really, anyone? The person who wants him is their DILF. Let's be fair. It's a lady slap fighter, Chris.
00:40:41
Speaker
A lady slap fire who just loves the cheeseburgers in Rochester. We have now talked about Dilfboy going on 40 minutes.
00:40:56
Speaker
And the thing is, I feel like I could continue talking about this because this is the best shit I've seen. We have recorded. I think this is our 30th episode together since the relaunch of predetermined, which doesn't that seem like that's flown by 30 weeks of doing this. Yeah, I kind of can't remember what my life was like before it.
00:41:17
Speaker
It, yeah, you're right. It just kind of feels like this is what we were already doing. Now the world just gets to
Podcast Milestone and WWE Storylines
00:41:24
Speaker
hear it. There's somebody in Spain that weakly listens to this. Hello, Spain person. I'm glad that you get to hear about Dilf boy. Welcome to America. It's weird. Or as you might know him, Nino de Dilf.
00:41:51
Speaker
I mean, look, I watch that. I told you I watched a lot of wrestling on Saturday. Tai Chi versus Will Ospreay was fucking great. But I don't remember that match nearly as well as I remember watching Del Foy get punched in the face. This is a special attraction match that brings in viewers because you know what?
00:42:15
Speaker
probably wasn't gonna watch the weekly XPW TV series, but if they're sprinkling matches like this in, who fucking knows what could be next? I think there's more from the taping, Garrett. There's more matches from American Cheeseburger. They haven't aired yet.
00:42:30
Speaker
And so, and I'd love to know, and I don't know if they do guys work multiple times per taping, but like, so Necro butcher, or sorry, MAGA butcher is an out and out babyface with this crowd. He comes out to born to be an American, where at least, uh, no, I'm for whatever that song's called, born to be an American. Proud to be an American. Whatever. I haven't heard that one in a while. It might be called God bless the USA. I can't remember. Oh yeah. Don't know. It's that song.
00:42:56
Speaker
But, like, fans are singing along. Everyone's super into it. Like, is he always a huge babyface? Is he only a huge babyface in Rochester? Is he only a big babyface against Dilfboy? What's the deal? He plays well in Jersey, too. So I mean, Newark is a big MAGA area, as you've probably heard. He's selective of the towns he runs because he wasn't in Pomona. I'll tell you that.
00:43:25
Speaker
He didn't make the trip to the Pomona show, but that's only because he's not allowed on airplanes It's it's a shame with necro butch are doing this gimmick It's I really feel sad that new Jack is no longer with us because that'll pay off
00:43:46
Speaker
If New Jack were still around, fucking Dilfboy wouldn't live to see his next match. True, actually, Maga Butcher and New Jack would probably be fast friends. It's like I started this thinking it was pro wrestling. It turned out it was like a Middle Eastern beheading video. It was fucked up. Oh shoot, New Jack's got a Skype.
00:44:17
Speaker
in the middle of the cheeseburger restaurant, you know, that guy's head would just be laying there the next day, some of them would come in to get a cheeseburger. They'd be like, ugh, they haven't cleaned up again. Schlack always says they promise to clean up, but my fucking regulars have to walk through a pile of glass to get their deep fried cheeseburger. God damn it. Well, that's actually why the deep fried cheeseburger costs less, is it's actually made with human meat.
00:44:49
Speaker
can, I will point out you can't get just a deep fried cheeseburger. You could also get deep fried pop tarts.
00:44:56
Speaker
Hmm. That actually does sound kind of delightful. You can get the peanut butter bacon burger and also I do need to bring this up because you mentioned the garbage plate. That doesn't seem like a thing a city would be like super proud of. Kind of like when St. Louis gets a little cocky about their signature dish being toasted raviolis. I'm like get the
00:45:19
Speaker
fuck out of here. Like just say nothing, say nothing at that point. But if you go to Rochester's tourism website, you know, we're big fans on this, this podcast of visiting the tourism pages of boot and Rochester anywhere that we're interested in. There is a guide to the Rochester garbage plate on the board of tourism website. It is a
00:45:43
Speaker
And it's not like a flattering photo of it. Like it seems like you see this is what you get taken on an iPhone for six years ago. We're posting it on here. And this is what it looks like in real life, too. Well, so it actually wasn't taken that long ago. When you get to Rochester, your phone has just turned into an old Blackberry.
00:46:09
Speaker
Oh, fuck, Chris. By the way, let's not lead out West Virginia wild. Wonderful. Visit West Virginia Tourism Board for more info. I have a promo code predetermined for 50 cents off your first Buffalo Wild Wings order. I have a couple more Yelp reviews I want to read in this place. No one's getting ready to ask you about Cody Rhodes, but I'm way more excited to hear these.
00:46:38
Speaker
Jenna Lee says tater tots were too salty. The burger meat smelled old and the taste was off and the girl at the cashier was rude. It was probably that 31 year old girl with pink hair. Yeah. Very specific age. The meat smelled old. Yum.
00:47:00
Speaker
Max E, I'm literally disgust. I think he means disgusted with this surface. Sorry, continue. That's one I was going to too, but I think that one's too long, honestly. I'll talk about Cody Rhodes. We'll gracefully transition here. I mean, if we have to. Yeah, yeah. What's the code man up to is they used to call the cousin on step by step.
00:47:31
Speaker
That does sound like a role that someone from WWE would play, like The Miz would be the cousin on Step By... The Miz is gonna have six episodes arc as the cousin on Step By Step on USA. I'm in, like you know I'm in on The Miz. The Miz is my guy. I'll watch a movie with The Miz. I'll watch a reality show with The Miz. I will watch a reboot of Step By Step with The Miz as the code man.
00:47:56
Speaker
You know, the USA is doing terrible right in the ratings. I think they should just reboot all the TGIF shows with.
00:48:03
Speaker
WWE people in prominent roles. I think they should do that. I've got a theory about this. I don't know if you guys saw that the recent report is that Nick Khan said that that WWE will be sold within three months. And if you look at it like three months from now, it's a little less than three months to WrestleMania. And I feel like that's the litmus test is like because Vince still owns this company and has no agreement in place with anyone else come that morning of WrestleMania weekend.
00:48:33
Speaker
There's no way Cody's. Well, see, I don't know. I, again, I think, I think Vince likes Cody.
00:48:41
Speaker
That's what he's pretending to do until he breaks his back at WrestleMania. Like Vince breaks his back with his sledgehammer that he used to break Triple H's throne. You thought it was funny to go out there and fuck around and build a new company? This is what you get. You're going to die on the grandest stage of them all in front of everybody. And watch this. Enzo, every wrestler ever is in the back. Enzo Amore, pee on him. Pee on him.
00:49:10
Speaker
But here's the thing though, could like, it does sound like you're turning Cody into a real Delph boy here. And I don't, I don't see Roman being able to do that now. Now mega butcher comes out.
00:49:25
Speaker
At that point, it looks like some random guy has hopped the barricade. This is a stranger. Why is he shirtless? Look at these tattoos. When Magga Butcher hops it, anyone that's sitting in the room with me that isn't a regular wrestling fan will be like, that's what wrestling fans look like.
00:49:44
Speaker
There's no way if you've got Cody Rhodes in one side of the ring, Roman Reigns on the other side of the ring, and then shirtless Magga Butcher rolls in. They both look at him and go, oh yeah, he's a peer of ours. Who in the back of WWE has worked with him? Besides somebody there. I mean, he rests in ROH, right? Maybe Adam Pearce? Yeah, a little bit. Evan Owens?
00:50:14
Speaker
scene probably right i could see it he did a lot of stuff in the northeast maybe not ring of honor but yeah they probably at least crossed paths generico he kind of sends somebody out there to talk him down after after he's done the murdering
00:50:34
Speaker
There's a lot of wrestlers that could easily take down, you say MAGA, I say MAGA, you know, potato, potato. So the butcher could easily be taken down by half that roster, but not Austin Theory. He's apparently wrestled Roderick Strong, that was the thing that happened. Meltzer gave it four and three quarters.
00:51:06
Speaker
It's like Cody, Cody Rhodes talk about. Oh, I think I think that people have been really like overdoing the comparison, like the comparison to Cody Rhodes as like Blue Tista and Sammy Zane as Daniel Bryan, I think is an absurd comparison. Are people saying that?
00:51:30
Speaker
I have seen people be like, this is just the same. Why can't people, why can't they just go with Sami Zayn in the main event of WrestleMania? And while I wouldn't disagree, you could absolutely main event WrestleMania with Sami at this point if you wanted to.
00:51:44
Speaker
Cody's story revolves around the title and Sami Zayn's doesn't. And Daniel Bryan's story, like the problem with the Daniel Bryan story was that the only satisfying conclusion was him winning back the title. That was the end point of the story they had started in the fall. That's not the case with Sami Zayn. The end point of Sami Zayn's story is him beating Roman Reigns, but it doesn't have to be for the title, nor does it have to be at WrestleMania.
00:52:08
Speaker
I think they should do a match against each other. I think the end point has to be Romerians acknowledging Sami Zane, right? And exactly language. So it doesn't even necessarily need to be a wrestling win. But I think that the other thing hanging over it is like, this is going to almost, it's going to feel like a joke saying it, but it's, it's so weird that it's not is that there's a very realistic possibility that the month after WrestleMania WWE will be owned by the Saudis.
00:52:37
Speaker
Mm hmm. That's a real thing. Like it might not be the Saudis. There may not be a deal, but like there may or even be an agreement in place like like the W.B.B. people didn't just like up and down to say it was ridiculous. They basically walked back and said, no, no, there's no deal yet. That's all they said. Not the biggest thing where you're like, oh, yeah, this this Syrian guy that's been really critical of the Saudis.
00:53:05
Speaker
They're gonna make him champion when, you know, Vince and the Crown Prince are putting things up their penis holes every other weekend. Small animals, worms. It's a party. Various minerals. Really anything that Hardy can sing about that can be crushed into a powder has been an
00:53:30
Speaker
It's been in a penis all over there. They actually buy weapons of mass destruction and then grind them into a fine powder and then jam them up their penis holes. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's been just weird. I feel like WWE fans have been so abused over the last decade.
00:53:54
Speaker
that there's just no, I think they're doing fine. I think Sammy, Sammy turning on Roman main evented the pay-per-view. Yeah. It's not like Sammy's getting buried. It just seems to me like this is, they learned from that other situation and Cody miraculously is insanely over.
00:54:15
Speaker
I don't get it either. Exactly. I didn't know. I mean, to be fair, maybe I do get it. The the angle where Cody is fighting for the honor of his dad is like the best angle Cody has. I don't know what he's got after this. Well, and this is a good one. And the other thing is like Cody wasn't away for a long time because he was making movies. Right. As much as he probably would love to.
00:54:36
Speaker
He was gone because he was hurt. And like, again, Batista was going to be gone shortly after WrestleMania. Kind of everyone knew the deal. Like he wins the Rumble. He's going to lose at Mania against somebody. And then he's gone again. Cody's not going to be like Cody signed a long deal. He's here for a while. Yeah, I think Cody, as again, I don't know if I had to believe that if you told me
00:55:05
Speaker
a year ago, but I think Cody is the guy that you use the rub of someone beating reigns. I think it makes sense to me, honestly. Weird as that sounds. Well, and I think we've all seen you're not, if not Cody, then who, right? Like, like this is like, at this point,
00:55:27
Speaker
Clearly The Rock is waiting to dethrone Jade Cargill for her more impressive record. It's a good point. So he's off the table for Roman. So I mean, but again, like who are you getting bigger than Cody? It's literally, it's him, it's Cody, or next year it's Logan Paul. Like that's actually kind of the truth.
00:55:51
Speaker
And I am excited for the Logan Paul Cody match, but I do want to say as far as this being the same as the Batista thing, I don't, it's not exactly the same, but I think it has been so long. I mean, I haven't watched WWE like actively weekly in a very long time, but this seems to be the most like naturally
00:56:14
Speaker
Like, this storyline just materialized. Like, fans, like, naturally got behind a guy, and it just worked so well, and it was a months-long storyline that just so happens to seem to be reaching its conclusion right in fucking WrestleMania season.
00:56:33
Speaker
So I think that's why it's like you have this really good story that is accurate. How often can you say WWE's had a good story? And to butt it up right against WrestleMania, where every fan is like, that's where this is headed.
00:56:49
Speaker
But it is kind of curious that while I don't think it's quite like, it is like, why would they have done that? Right? Like, why make it like you could have made it more about like Jay uso and Sammy earlier on, but it was pretty explicitly like Romans, the one running this, they made it more about Sammy and Roman. So it's like, why do you do that?
00:57:11
Speaker
if you're not gonna do that match, and it is WrestleMania season. But they are gonna do the match, they're gonna do it in Montreal, in front of all Sami's fans. But like, you know he's gonna lose. Yeah. And I think that's the hard thing about it is, yeah, you could have him, I guess, if even if he lost at WrestleMania, like people would be bummed, but we know he's gonna lose at WrestleMania because they're already building fucking Cody versus,
00:57:40
Speaker
Roman Reigns so I think he hugs I think he hugs I think at the end he and he reunites with Owens in Montreal and It's like the anti I'm like wearing a survivor series 97 shirt right now. It's like the anti Montreal screw job. It's the flip. It's the Montreal Love job. I I think there's a very small but non-zero chance that
00:58:05
Speaker
that they go attitude era on this one, have Sammy win the title, and then have Roman literally win it back the next Monday or the next Friday, and still do the Cody match. They could. Because at this point, what's the difference of one month between like title reigns in history? Yeah. A crowd would lose their fucking mind.
00:58:32
Speaker
straight back to where you were next Friday on SmackDown. You're right. Like, who's gonna- But by the same point, CM Punk beating Cena in Chicago,
00:58:42
Speaker
Basically made CM Punk an upper upper upper never not gonna be in unless he does something stupid like bite Kenny Omega He's never gonna not be like a first ballot Hall of Fame one of the all-time greats and it was that that night I know CM Punk's done a lot of stuff. It was all that night like Sammy Zane and
00:59:04
Speaker
If he can get that, that's a forever moment that Sami Zayn is literally a forever main eventer from that point on. Whereas if he just loses to Roman, you know, he's just back to being some midcard guy chasing the US title. I mean, could you make that match in Montreal, not for the title? If you don't want to, I mean, could you find a way to make it already announced to us for the title? I know. There you go. OK.
00:59:35
Speaker
I don't think there could be a non-title match at a WWE pay-per-view. Have they ever had the heavyweight champion not defend at a pay-per-view if he's on the show? I mean, we'll tag matches and stuff, but in a singles match would be, yeah, I can't think of one. I'm sure it's happened, and I can't think. WWE definitely did it. Yes. Sometimes they wouldn't even tell you it wasn't a title match until after the finish. Yeah.
01:00:05
Speaker
Uh, Starrcade 96 guys, classic moment. What a, what a, one of the many WSTB classic moments. Um, look it up. It's a real thing. Um, I don't, yeah, I, well, again, I get it. I think, and I think they're going to treat, I think they're going to protect Sammy enough that he's going to come out of this strong. And I think, um,
01:00:27
Speaker
I think we're all going to be living the American nightmare together. Well, or they could also do this where it could be kind of, you know, where, of course, the Daniel Bryan going on to win in WrestleMania 30 was clearly not the story and they built into it.
Roman Reigns and WrestleMania Speculations
01:00:44
Speaker
But could they have learned something about that and actually said, well, no, we are building it because I don't think it's impossible. You could do a fuck finish in Montreal of some kind, right?
01:00:53
Speaker
and then do something like Usos against Kevin and Sammy night one Roman against Cody night one and then Roman against Sammy if he can beat the Usos night two it's for the title if he still has it it's not you know they could do something like that where you could have Cody still take the title night one
01:01:17
Speaker
But the bigger money match actually being night two, even if it's not for the title, would just get Sammy to finally beat Roman. They are also, they seem to have been talking about doing, like splitting the two titles. So that would be the other opportunity. Yeah, it would be, you do both matches. Have Roman, I have Roman main event two nights in a row. Why not? But also have Sammy fight two nights. I mean, Roman, Roman, like,
01:01:47
Speaker
what okada is to new japan is nothing compared to what roman is to wwe right if you look at like their main event scene for most of their fans lifetimes probably except for you read the reports the average age like 56 but like roman has been the unequivalent not there is no second ben on a top guy for legitimately a decade basically like he's
01:02:14
Speaker
Hogan, he's Cena. Like, are you saying in 1987, if WrestleMania wasn't two nights, Vince wouldn't have had Hogan main event both nights? I think he would have. I mean... And it's not like the level of match he's having is like some New Japan craziness. Like, Romans had to work two house shows in a row before. This is something he could do. He could handle this.
01:02:41
Speaker
But again, to that point, he is a freakish, genetic freak athlete monster. He's not gonna have to wrestle 60 minutes like Okada two nights in a row. He can wrestle a decent 25 at a pretty good clip. Roman Reigns is physically capable of pretty much anything. He's about as close to we have as a real-life superhero.
01:03:06
Speaker
And I will say, I remember when I first got back into WWE around the time of the Daniel Bryan WrestleMania storyline, I got really into the shield. The shield immediately grabbed me, specifically Roman Reigns. I was a huge Roman guy. And around that time, they were doing SummerSlam at the Staples Center and I, for whatever reason, didn't attend.
01:03:33
Speaker
And we were walking around a not great part of town. And I remember somebody saying like, we probably shouldn't be here. And I said, don't worry, Roman Reigns is in town. Nothing can happen to us.
01:03:45
Speaker
Because he was my Superman. And I still stand by that he would have swooped from the sky, beat the shit out of, he would have fucking dilf-boyed whatever criminal was trying to- Superman punch. And that's why WWE should make as much money off Roman as possible. Because if Dwayne comes back, it's not going to be to wrestle a match with Roman. It's going to be to take Roman to Hollywood.
01:04:08
Speaker
He already did it a little bit with Hobson Shaw, right? Like at some point Papa Dwayne is bringing Roman to Hollywood and he's never coming back. Okay.
01:04:20
Speaker
You brought him up, I gotta do it. I fucking hate The Rock, guys. This is not, yeah, I'm gonna fucking say
The Rock's Career and Public Perception
01:04:27
Speaker
it. My wife has had to listen to this for a few weeks now. The 30th and final episode of the rebooted pre-determined. He gets it shut down on us. How many times did you see Hobson Shaw in the theater? 14. Okay, continue.
01:04:45
Speaker
four of which were in a single day in the same seat. Like I have just so turned.
01:04:55
Speaker
on The Rock. Like he used to be my guy for so long through wrestling. And then when he started doing movies, it was like The Rock's got a movie out. I go see that movie. And you know what? Nine times out of 10, that movie sucks. But I still see it anyway and tell people, you got to see the new Rock movie. He makes Hobbs and Shaw, which is exactly the movie I've always wanted him to make. It's awesome. And now it's the one fucking movie he doesn't want to make a sequel to.
01:05:23
Speaker
uh what the fuck what an asshole wait is that a real thing they're not making a sequel to that oh yeah they've pretty much said that's probably not happening at this point is that the reason you've turned on him garret it was the beginning of the end all right that's a fairly valid reason i he makes such shitty movies and then let's see where where was i going with this i don't know i i talked to somebody because he's he's making a movie right now and
01:05:52
Speaker
Somebody I know was working on it and said that somebody that always works on his movies is like, oh, he's picked up a bad habit from Vin Diesel that he has started not showing up to set on time.
01:06:06
Speaker
And I don't think that he started doing that because of Vin Diesel. I think it's because the rocks running like several, like multi-billion dollar businesses. Like I remember when his tequila came out, uh, he said in the first, he said to give you an idea of how much this tequila company is worth. He said when George Clooney started his tequila company in the first year, it sold a hundred thousand cases and sold for a billion dollars.
01:06:32
Speaker
And the Rock said, to give you an idea, my company in the first year sold 500,000 cases of tequila.
01:06:39
Speaker
So the Rock is legitimately very fucking rich. The Rock is Mark Cuban at this point. He isn't even an actor. These movies exist to get us to like him to buy all this other shit that he's selling. The movies don't even matter anymore. He doesn't give a shit. As Garrett cracks open a Zola,
01:07:05
Speaker
He didn't have anything to do with Zoa, did he? My new favorite energy drink, the hottest, fastest selling energy drink of all time. I'll be there. Day one, XFL. You, uh, you know, you're bringing up some interesting points. I didn't really thought, I mean, just stay away from, you know, Deadpool, Ryan Reynolds and my precious, precious mint mobile.
01:07:30
Speaker
and that gin he makes. And I learned from the Grammys the other night that apparently he and Adele are best friends. So if he is the one who told Adele, no, you should definitely go ahead and release that record in which you're like, I blame my child for all of how crappy my life is right now. Maybe, yeah, maybe Rock's a bad guy. Well, and then for the longest time though, I always said,
01:07:58
Speaker
If there's going to be a pro wrestler that figures out how to win an Oscar, it's going to be Dwayne. But as his movies have progressed, they're dog shit. Like he doesn't do anything. These movies suck and he keeps putting them out, but people keep seeing him. He's one of the biggest stars on the fucking planet. But then you look at Dave Batista, and I bring this up because I posted on our Instagram, I saw the Batista M. Night Shyamalan movie.
01:08:26
Speaker
And Batista has actually been doing interesting things as an actor, a guy who I never gave a fuck about as a wrestler, but is taking interesting roles and is actively working to be good. And seems to be a great fucking guy on all accounts. Like to me, Big Dave has taken over the rock spot in my heart. I would rather hang out with Big Dave tomorrow than I would The Rock.
01:08:55
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. Did you see Peacemaker? I think John Cena's gotta at least be in the conversation too. He's being his authentic self.
01:09:04
Speaker
It's true, he is very good. But that being said, I remember Batista was on WTF like six years ago or something. And he was talking about doing all these straight to video movies, but he's doing like a shitty straight to video movie where he's on set with Robert De Niro all day. And he says that he spends the whole time picking his brain so he can see what he can learn from him. And- Just like Jimmy Lloyd did.
01:09:35
Speaker
Where is Jimmy Lloyd's energy drink? Where is his, you know, batch bourbon? He's like, guys, when you're done with a hard day, you just gotta light up a Newport and take a big swig of meat juice. Or what did we say? What was the name? Meat sauce. Meat sauce. So yeah, I have turned on Dwayne. He can go to hell.
01:10:05
Speaker
That's it. I don't need to see Dwayne anymore unless, unless if Dwayne's like Garrett, I'm sorry, I hear you. I need to do better. I know I'm like doing great. I've got these billion dollar companies. I should just be on fucking shark tank now being the new guy who brings you out the scrub daddy, but, uh, I will make you Hobbs and Shaw too.
01:10:26
Speaker
And I was like, good. Okay, fine. You know what, Garrett, though, let's be honest. He doesn't need to make hubs and show too. All he needs to do is just beat the ever living shit out of Dilfboy in front of you. I think that we- At the hamburger store. At a hamburger store. It can be a hamburger store in LA or Hawaii or something. It was at a Burger King in Hollywood and Dilfboy got a little too handsy trying to get an autograph.
01:10:55
Speaker
Here's, here's, here's the other question. Now, Garrett, let me propose this to you. How are you feeling about the rock? If next year, WrestleMania it's the rock versus not Roman Reigns, Logan Paul, I'd rather see the rock. No, I'd rather see Logan Paul versus a Roman Reigns too.
01:11:19
Speaker
than The Rock. I don't think The Rock has a good match like that in him. I think it's what's funny is that the real worker in that match is gonna be fucking Logan Paul. I know. To be fair, the real worker in any match Logan Paul is in is Logan Paul. And Ricochet can write that in ink. Logan Paul, in four matches he's done more athletically than The Rock.
01:11:47
Speaker
I'm sorry. I, I liked the rock for a really long time. Like I will still love the old rock. I will watch Hobbs and Shaw and not think twice about it, but, uh, he's, he's been on my fucking nerves lately. And I had to cut off my chest. Is there a cutoff? Like after Hobbs and Shaw, is there, is Hobbs and Shaw, the last rock thing you'll watch? The Jumanji movies were very funny. Okay. You'll still watch this.
01:12:13
Speaker
But like now all as a podcast, are we now on team Vin Diesel? No. Well, yeah, because he's still in the goddamn movies. I don't know. I'm going to catch up and watch some young rock. Honestly, he's in that next Guardians of the Galaxy movie with Batista. So we know who Batista likes better. Yeah, actually, but fast and furious and turned it down. And we're pretty sure that's why John Cena entered the universe.
01:12:42
Speaker
Was that because of Vin or was that because of The Rock?
01:12:45
Speaker
Uh, it's because I think he didn't, he didn't want to like follow in the Dwayne footsteps. He's Batista is trying to carve his own path. And, uh, you know what, knock on the, knock on the cabin, whatever that was. It was fine. It was fine. It's a, it's a perfectly fine. It's Hollywood's favorite kind of movie to make. One where people are stuck in one room for the whole goddamn thing, but Batista does monologues. And this is the first time you get that. I loved him in the Ryan Gosling Blade Runner movie.
01:13:13
Speaker
that that movie fit but is just dope as shit and uh his his part which is is not huge but it's very important at the beginning amazing his finest work he wears glasses to just make sure it's serious which i think he does in the new movie too right yeah he does yeah tiny glasses of how batista shows he's serious
01:13:35
Speaker
What were you going to say, Chris? Do you have, is anybody going to defend Wayne here because like I am, I'm taking shots and the podcast, I honestly don't think you're, you're taking that heart of shots here. Garrett, you're just like, his movies aren't great. It doesn't matter quite honestly.
01:13:50
Speaker
It's The Rock. Everyone's going to watch the movies. The movies have mostly not been good. I still love the guy. I'm still going to vote for him for president. It's like Taylor Swift. What are you even voting for? We don't know. He is fucking MAGA butcher, but not for us. You're talking about how he's focused on all these other businesses. He's making money. I mean, he told us like, again, the
01:14:13
Speaker
he told us this right he's corporate rock he's the biggest bad guy and everyone cheered him anyway he they always say that that's just you turned up to 11 right he's only in the corporate champ and yet somehow the people's champ he's one dixie sugar penis snort away from just uh just being another corporate douche
01:14:36
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, yeah. But have you seen, have you seen the, those veins rock ain't taken in any Dixie crystal, whether it's sugar or anything else that, that body is clean. He's not having a ceremony. He's not sucking it up as be all the rock is sugar free. Yeah. But he knows she write facts. He definitely knows what halftime is. He's got that halftime money. He knows, he knows the contours of Shania Twain's vagina.
01:15:05
Speaker
far better than I know literally what my own face looks like.
Batista, Dilfoy, and Upcoming Wrestling Events
01:15:11
Speaker
Oh, man, I feel like a woman. I did. I will just say I just want one brief non sequitur. We were talking about Batista and then it flashed back to me that facts and I were there to watch Batista wrestled Triple H at WrestleMania. And honestly, it was such a weird.
01:15:35
Speaker
Like I thought I was dreaming it and then I realized, no, that's a true thing that I was remembering and I wasn't just fake remembering it, but it doesn't seem like something that should be a real memory.
01:15:45
Speaker
Was that anyways, guys, that match sucked. Was that at the MetLife one with Rousey headlining? Mm hmm. Like it was a big deal that Dave came back basically because people liked him from other things now. Yep. Well, and it was very clear he was coming in for just this. Right. It wasn't like he was going to be a real contender. It was like a side show. But yeah, then there's like, again, not a good match, but like pliers and and jewelry being removed, piercings.
01:16:15
Speaker
Just all around bizarre. All I'm saying is, this time next year, you're gonna see Big Dave in The Whale 2. He's gonna be in the 600-pound suit that Brendan Fraser was in, and he's gonna win a goddamn Oscar, and he will be our first wrestler to do so. And the daughter will be played by Delft boy. Who got his dick cut off in the cheeseburger restaurant a couple months later. Yeah.
01:16:44
Speaker
All right. Is there anything else? Sorry, Jimmy Lloyd. It's not going to be you. Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy went out for that role and he got a call back, but just wasn't good enough. You went with DILF boy. No, he got the call back, but he turned it down because he had plans in Rochester that night.
01:17:10
Speaker
Dilfboy's better at crying on cue. All he has to do is get punched in the head by a 60-year-old man. And the tears just immediately start coming. Schlack even coming and he's like, he's fucking crying already. After the first punch. Do you think Nick Gage could turn Dilfboy into a Dilfman? Yes. The thing is, he could, but does Nick Gage want to? No. Nick, did Gage have enough time for that shit?
01:17:39
Speaker
I think if Dilfboy just paid for a cameo every day from Nick Gage, Nick Gage would go along with it and eventually he'd get there. Well, if one thing we know about Dilfboy, it sounds like he doesn't pay up. So, good luck getting the cameo money out of him. Jesus Christ. This has been a weird episode, guys. Honestly, these are the episodes I live for.
01:18:07
Speaker
I'd love that. Facts and I are probably gonna go watch a wrestling show this weekend. We'll have wrestling to talk about next week and not just what we watched on the XP, PW TV show. What wrestling are you going to? The Jersey J Cup. Oh fuck, I forgot. You guys are actually going to that. That's the plan. We don't know if we're gonna make the whole thing or just the evening show. Yeah, that first show lineup is,
01:18:37
Speaker
Not the best. So we might just. We might just hit the finals. Hit the hit. Yeah, I hit the hit the the night session. You get the first one, though, like it seems like Speedball Gresham is almost worth the price of admission. I don't know. They wrestled in was Detroit or Columbus last year, and it was OK. I think that's one of the. See, it wasn't 50 dollars yet. That was one that I was like, I don't think I'm going to pay the 14 bucks and watch.
01:19:05
Speaker
but now, now you've got it for free. And I could actually go back and check that out and see if it's worth you guys time. Well, and part of it is that there's that gap in between. So we might just hang out at my place and watch XP W like we can, we can watch on fight plus, and then we'll go for the finals. Yeah. Just, just one thing. Don't forget guys, rate, review, subscribe.
01:19:31
Speaker
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