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Gaming and VR
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole (weather, pipes, bowling, and the SuperBowl); Ron talks about his new “magic hat” the #metaquest #VR headset; Chris brings up if gaming consoles need to transition to #software publishers. As always please like, subscribe and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Transcript
Introductions and Weather Woes
00:00:05
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe podcast. I'm Chris. Oh, I'm Ron. I was like, Oh God. It's a warmer day. Yes. Like 60 degrees a day. Yeah. But then it's supposed to rain for like three days. Yeah. We're supposed to get in the snow. Oh nice. Yeah. 60 degrees into snow. Ah yes. Global climate change. Stupid, smart weather.
Home Repairs and Mishaps
00:00:34
Speaker
Yeah.
00:00:35
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Yeah. Finally, get the people to come out and fix the wind damage from the storm in January. Well, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My house doesn't look decrepit anymore. Thanks. I have to get a plumber to come out and fix my clogged pipes. I have decided the train never works. Well, just when you leave work Monday morning, take an air pack with you. You hook it up to a hose.
00:01:05
Speaker
And you put a seal over the drain and you open up that air pack and the air will force it all out. Hmm. Yeah. Have your wife hold the seal around the drain. Mm hmm. Yeah. Please, I don't believe anything you're saying. Oh, yeah, I've tried everything to unclog the strain in it. Yeah. Is it a root in it, maybe? I don't think I think it's
00:01:34
Speaker
It's inside the house drain. Oh, yeah. And like I have an auger, but it won't go down. That drain is too small. Oh, OK. And of course, I tried to open the PVC to remove the trap. And of course, I can't get it because it's, I don't know, stuck for some reason. Yeah. So that's been fun. Have you tried battery acid? Not tried battery acid. Hmm. OK. Didn't try gasoline either. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But Toreno has never worked.
00:02:04
Speaker
one time in my household. That once.
Bowling and Beer Adventures
00:02:09
Speaker
Yeah. So I think it's all a lie. Yeah. It's some kind of acid. Is it the sulfuric or? I think it's a base. Right? Maybe. I don't know. I think it's a base. Well, there you go. Pour that down there and then pour some acid with it.
00:02:31
Speaker
Yeah. A complex chemical reaction will take care of anything in your pipes. Yeah. That just melts my pipes. Yeah. Let's not do more danger. Let's just call a professional at this point. Yeah. And that's the thing I've learned as an adult. At a certain point, call a professional. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. That's like, yeah, I could have shimmied out on the roof and tried to fix that.
00:03:01
Speaker
I am at a point in my life where I can, you know, pay for goods and services. What's not that I'm saying I could, if you can do the work, that's fine. Yeah. But if you're at the point where you might screw it up more, like, like I tried all the traditional things. I tried to snake it. I tried to, you know, put Drano down and I bought an enzyme thing. This was to clear it out. None of that worked. Have you tried an actual snake?
Fashion Follies and Rants
00:03:26
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. He's not happy. Well,
00:03:32
Speaker
That poor plumber, you're going to get the pipe open and sneak back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to be happy. Well, we got the claw gap, and now there's a snake stuck in your pipes. That's just a cobra. It's fine. Oh, cobra. Yeah. Well, you want to get a cobra. That way they can spray the venom at it. No, they get that little hood, so they clear out more around them. Ah, ah. Smart, smart. Nature, nature, snake drink.
00:04:01
Speaker
Oh, there's some herpetologists out there cringing. Listening to us on his own. It's been a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, we went bowling last night. Hadn't been bowling in a while. Everybody was happy to break 100 in some of the games. Like I said, break 100 is actually hard in bowling. Yeah, my wife won the last match. She bowled at 132.
00:04:31
Speaker
I think it's one 30 is the number you need to hit a camera. I used to bowl so much. Yeah. If you can hit one 30, you can hit two 60 or something like that. Sure. Because it's, it's because the way the bowling is scored. Oh yeah. Yeah. The goofy way it's scored. Yeah. Oh yeah. The mark here and this and that and carry the three. No, no, no, no.
00:04:55
Speaker
I remember being bored in New Jersey and it was all you could bowl day for like three bucks. Wow. On Monday nights. And we would bowl until our arms could literally no longer be lifted. Yeah. And like I said, there were these weird guys that they just like spin the ball and. Oh. Well. I think you learn when you go bowling a lot. Chuck it.
00:05:23
Speaker
You learned that heavy balls are bad. Yeah. You want lighter balls. Yeah. Faster. More control. Yeah. You know, those guys are running out of their 14 pound balls. They don't know what they're doing. They clank into each other and they get. That's very fair. Yeah, last night was the first night I had light beer and I don't know how long. Yeah, bowling alley. You got to have a pitcher of beer. That's fair. Yeah, it's fair.
00:05:53
Speaker
Doesn't seem worth having the calories of a light beer. Yeah. And we were trying to, you know, we're like, oh, we'll get some food. And my wife is like, well, how do you think their cheeseburgers are? I said, I bet they taste like a bowling alley cheeseburger. Do you think they're safe? I was like, I don't know. Maybe let's let's roll the dice. And yeah, yeah, both our stomachs were not happy. But yeah, that checks out. Yeah. Well, I think if you're getting something. Oh, yeah.
00:06:23
Speaker
They've got tacos. I'm sure a bowling alley taco is good. I think if you get something at bowling, you want something deep fried. Yeah, that's what. Yeah. Chicken fingers. That's right. I'll stick french fries. Yeah, that's what we should have stuck with. Stick with that. Yeah. But they do have a VIP club. I did see that. Oh, that's fun. We did not join. Oh, yeah. I don't really even have any bowling always here anymore. They've all disappeared. When I think they're I don't think I know there was something wrong with a pin counter.
00:06:53
Speaker
Because people would roll gutter balls and be like, you got a three. OK. And we're like, we don't care, whatever. I'm sure there are, you know, there are some people that are like, God, fix that. That was a zero. It's like, no, just have fun. Taking bowling seriously is like taking carnal seriously. Yeah. It's ruining the point of the activity. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yep. And then there were these. God, I'm assuming college kids that were in the lane next to us there at the very end.
00:07:24
Speaker
And I was like, there is no way these kids are 21 and they're all drinking and I guess they carded them and everything. I'm like, I guess they are. I looked at my wife. I said, our daughter could bring something like that home to Thanksgiving dinner next year. And she's like, yeah, yeah, it could happen. Yeah. Yeah. I was I leaned over to her. I was like, because, you know, they've got their little nicknames or whatever up there and that's got their name when it's their frame.
00:07:52
Speaker
I was like, what do you think they'd do? If I'm like, yeah, good job, Connor. Way to hit the ball. I think you were a weird old man. I know. That's what, that's what they would do. Yeah. Then they'd beat you up. Take a Walker. No, I could have taken him. Yeah. The one, the one guy obviously had more fans. So one good punch and he's down.
00:08:16
Speaker
There's a guy in my gym who I'm pretty sure has Marfan's, but he is freaking swole. It's rare. That's the part that I'm like, I don't know that it's Marfan's, but he's got the whole, the limbs disproportionate thing. And he's like seven foot tall. It is crazy.
00:08:38
Speaker
Like six, I'm around six foot. Yeah. So, you know, six, one, six, two, it's not that much difference to me, but if you're six, four and above, I'm like, Oh, I'm a child. This, this poor guy, he goes to do like the tricep stack. Yeah. And I mean, his head is hitting the bar. That's at least seven feet off the floor.
00:09:05
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Yeah, he does the triceps. He's those on his knees because he's so tall. Yeah, there's like that level. I wanted to be taller. I didn't want to be that tall because it's just uncomfortable, right? Yeah, it's got to be. Nothing is nothing fits you. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, all your pants, you look like you're ready for a flood. Yeah. Oh. I hate to be this person trying to be a better person. No, be the person.
00:09:34
Speaker
There are these people, and there are older men who go to the gym. I'm assuming from my social clues that they identify as, they self-identify as male. Is this my assumption? I could be wrong. But they wear these mill, I can only call them mill house tights. They're super tight.
00:09:57
Speaker
pants. Yeah. That stop at like their mid calf. Yeah. They're like capris or something. Yeah. And they just walk around like that. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah. You look stupid. Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't want to say you can't wear that because you can wear whatever the heck you want. You need to know that you look stupid. Yeah. And maybe they do. I own it. I'm stupid and I like it. Yeah. Maybe they don't care. That's fair. That's like those young men last night bowling, the one
00:10:28
Speaker
I mean, Patrick Swayze level mullet, this baggy white shirt tucked into his jeans that were pulled up to his, you know, belly button. And yeah, he had his high waters on and everything. I'm like, son did untuck the shirt and wear some pants that fit. There's only been one person in the history of months that could pull off a mullet. And that is Patrick Swayze. Yeah. No one else can pull off the mullet.
00:10:58
Speaker
I'm sorry. You all look stupid. Yeah. Shave your heads. Yeah. Yeah. Or let it all grow. Something. It's one or the other. It's one or the other. It just looks terrible.
00:11:12
Speaker
The fact that it's back as someone who lived through the mullet era makes me angry because we all hated it then. We're now having to hate it twice and I'd like that. I shouldn't have to hate the same hair twice. What's the 80s and 90s style are coming back? It wasn't good then. It wasn't good then. I mean, there's some 80s stuff that was cool. I ripped jeans and
00:11:41
Speaker
T-shirts. Well, that was a cool look. Oh, ripped jeans. Yeah. So I've been volunteered. I'm taking my youngest clothes shopping today. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. After I get to the eye doctor and I said, well, what do you need? Well, I need jeans. I said, I thought we just got you jeans. Well, yeah. But the, the ones that come with the holes in the knees, every time I kneel down, the hole gets bigger. I'm like, imagine that a rip in your jeans gets bigger every time you bend it. Huh? Maybe we shouldn't have bought jeans with holes in them.
00:12:14
Speaker
We ripped our jeans the hard way. We'd have somebody do it for us. We were punk rock. God. I want to find those denim patches and iron them to the inside so she looks like a total mook. I bet you won't thought that were. No, no. God, it's the little one. She'll kill me. Yeah, she'd be on you like Spider-Monkey. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:42
Speaker
Clearly, I have no fashion sense. I'm fine with that. I have pretty much worn the same fashion for 40 years. It's just now that I embrace my full lifetime of just shorts. The number of people who feel like they have to comment on my shorts is disconcerting. Really? Yeah. What does it matter to you that the three inches of my calf that are exposed are not cold? I'm sorry that I have
00:13:11
Speaker
I'm a warm blooded animal. I can control my own body temperature. Yeah. I apologize. Hmm. Pets. Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday at work. All right. Yesterday morning, trash need to be taken out. So I walked into the dumpster. I just had my polo on. Oh, what is wrong with you? I'm like, I was walking to the trash cannon back. I wasn't sitting out doing nothing in, you know, the wind for eight hours.
00:13:39
Speaker
The people that act like they're going into an Arctic survival situation because they're going to their car. Yeah. It's nuts. You're allowed to be cold. Your body's not going to shut down immediately upon being cold. If it does, you've got bigger problems. Yeah. Yeah. If you immediately open the door and freeze to death, you were going to die either way. Yeah. Yeah. You are a pure ectotherm and your lizard blood has frozen. Yeah. You're not a lizard.
00:14:10
Speaker
Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's how we're picking out the lizard people. That's fair. Yeah. Well, then I know a Lieutenant Station One who's a lizard person. He works after you. He works after me. He worked over time the other night and we're just sitting, you know, we sit in the engine bay and talk. Yeah. And I'm sitting there in shorts and a t-shirt. It was
00:14:31
Speaker
I don't know. Was it 60 degrees in that, in that day? It wasn't cold, but it wasn't. So it's not 80 degrees and not warm. Oh, I'm sure this individual had long johns on. He's got his pants on sweatshirt on. He's sitting there and he's like, he walks into the shop. He grabs the extension cord, brings out his personal heater and sits it on the table next to him.
00:14:58
Speaker
And I was like, we should take a picture and send it to the two new guys so they know who they're getting as their officers. Yeah. One of us is a warm blooded individual who can handle a little bit of cold. The other one of us can't sit in engine bay for more than two minutes. Oh, gosh. What's the other is about a month ago, but I walked up to the front office and one of the office associates has a electric blanket wrapped around herself plugged in. I was like, what? And then they
00:15:29
Speaker
adjusted the thermostat. The other day it was 78 with 62% humidity in the office. Holy nuts. I went to murder someone. I had my fan cranked. That's when you go over there and say, you know, work here for more than 25 years before you touch this thermostat. Yeah. It should be like at the house. Children don't touch the thermostat. Yeah. Work for the city for 18 years. You get the ability to touch the thermostat.
00:15:55
Speaker
Yeah. One day a month after 18 years, you get to touch the thermostat one day. Yeah. My people have just accepted that they're just going to have to put a sweatshirt on if they're cold. Because 68 is a perfectly reasonable temperature for the house to be. Yes. Doesn't need to be 74 in a firehouse. No. What are you, mayor? Is it trying to be a sauna?
00:16:25
Speaker
Maniacs. Maniacs. God, you just want to sit there and sweat? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what they want. I mean, just be like my wife and turn the heat on and open the door for the dogs all day. Maybe that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. And then... You got to pull the old man thing. We're not eating the outside. And then pitch at me because the electric bill was so high. I'm just looking at her going, hmm. Just take pictures of when she does that and look, here's exhibit A. Here's exhibit B.
00:16:51
Speaker
It doesn't really help you. No, it doesn't. No, no, no. You still lose. Yeah. You can have all the evidence in the world. You still lose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you just just know I'm not going to win this and I'm only going to lose. Oh yeah. For the gents out there listening. Well, anybody really. Yeah. Yeah. Just accept that you're wrong. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:20
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, just accept it. So the best license in the world is just you're wrong. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Super Bowl and VR Explorations
00:17:30
Speaker
Big Super Bowl tomorrow. Boy, I don't care at all. Yeah, I will watch it just because I honestly I am more excited to see the Deadpool three trailer. Sure. But I can also watch it on YouTube afterwards.
00:17:47
Speaker
Yeah, I just don't care about the halftime show. I don't like either team in the Super Bowl. I guess I might have to say go Niners because I don't want the Chiefs to win. I think more than anything, I just don't care about football anymore. Yeah. I think it's hilarious, all these people that are upset.
00:18:09
Speaker
about Taylor Swift. Oh, I think that's insane. I think, I think they should just show Taylor Swift instead of the show. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Just looks like the Niner scored, but there's Taylor Swift drinking a Coke. Yeah. I, I, it's insane. It appears as though she's moved on to the nachos. The double dip. Oh, didn't expect to see that from Taylor Swift. Patrick my home's just lost an arm, but folks,
00:18:37
Speaker
It appears as though she does not like the jalapenos on her nachos. I just, to be upset about that is insane. Yeah. My favorite thing, and this is a little dipping into politics, but it's fine. It's a toe. The toe is that some Republican GOP was like, well, the Democrats have Taylor Swift. We have Ted Nugent.
00:19:02
Speaker
And I was like, man, you are out of touch if you think Ted Nugent is the voice of any generation. Oh my God. I'll give you a hundred dollars or you can name two Ted Nugent songs right now. Yeah, that's no comparison. No, not even a little bit. Wow. And I'm sure, look,
00:19:23
Speaker
I don't know their political politics, but I'm sure there's some other right leaning, uh, songwriter singer you could have picked the Ted Nugent. Yeah, that's, um, anybody else could have been more popular than Ted Nugent. I mean, like Taylor Swift, we have Beethoven, right? Today is what is the most popular. I would say the most popular singer in the world right now. Yeah.
00:19:52
Speaker
Ted Nugent had one song that you kind of sort of know if you hear it on the radio from 40 years ago. Probably almost 50 years at this point. Yeah. Ted Nugent. Wow. Let's pick anybody other than that. Let's see, Ted Nugent songs. Can I scratch yours? Yeah, that's the only one. The only one that comes up. The Great White Buffalo.
00:20:24
Speaker
Yeah, 1974. Yeah. Wango Tango. Yeah, no, these aren't real songs. No, he's like the only reason that anybody under the age of 50 knows Ted Nugent is because he did that MTV show where he was a whack job and everybody laughed at him. Yeah. Like that's the only reason everybody knows his name. Yeah.
00:20:46
Speaker
Not who I would pick. No. So it was a funny statement to me. Yeah, that's it. I don't even tell her she's a fan. I don't listen to her music. But I know she's a hell of a lot more popular than Ted Nugent. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I just don't care about football anymore. It's man, it's tough to care about. Oh, yeah. Now I get it.
00:21:16
Speaker
And and the sport has become just less exciting to watch. You know, it's flags and slowdowns. Yeah, it's it's an hour going to go to the booth so they can review this for 35 minutes. Right. Oh, great. I did like that they picked the Philadelphia Eagles to go to Brazil next year. Really? The first ever game in Brazil.
00:21:42
Speaker
And so are they playing against the Brazilian football team? So is it like American football versus soccer? That'd be amazing. Yes. Oh, that guy was not looking to get laid out. I'll say the way the soccer actors are. I think he might really be hurt this time. Looks like his rotator cuff is not rotating anymore. The look of just.
00:22:09
Speaker
shock when they're like, I actually got hit. This is what real pain feels like. Right. When a 285 pound man who does nothing but three seconds speed bursts. Yeah. Full force. It's not good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, uh, I just don't like the whole, it's the, it's the same thing. I don't think about baseball now that baseball has gone to, we're going to do its replays. And so it's like,
00:22:39
Speaker
Football got bad because of this. We don't need this. Yeah, well, baseball was already a slow sport. Let's slow it down more. I will say, at least they added that they have a pitch clock now, so. It does make the games go quicker. Yeah. But then you're paying $160 to go see a game that lasts an hour and a half. My cable bill's not that much, I thought. It's fair. Might be a little zero. I don't see any of them. Yeah, there we go. But, yeah. You try them. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if people want to
00:23:09
Speaker
watch the sports games. And I'll probably still watch this, because I'm stuck at work anyways. Yeah. Can't drink there. Yeah. Well, you can. You just don't keep your job. Yeah. Yeah. But. But. Yeah. Let's move on to topic one. Topic one. Well, I fint at it twice. I have a VR system now. Yeah.
00:23:37
Speaker
And first off, my biggest complaint of the VR system is it thinks I'm four inches shorter than I am. Oh, which one did you get? Mediquest? Mediquest. Yeah. And I'm doing like, mostly I've been doing fitness on it, but the boxing that you do, like it's like body blow and it's like I'm punching at my knees and then you have to do a duck. It's like, Oh my God, I have to duck. I have to squat all the way down. Like it's crazy how low it thinks I am.
00:24:08
Speaker
But it's because you're fighting against a little person. That's true. You got to change that setting. It's amazing. Yeah. I've played. One triple A title game, I guess, if you call that for VR. And it's. It's a little off putting. Yeah, because the camera is wrath of something.
00:24:37
Speaker
at Wrath of Asgard, I think it's called. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's supposed to be like a really deep game. Yes. I've gotten not very far because I have to take breaks because they do a lot of aspect changing. Ooh. If that makes sense, like where you go from like looking at this to like, oh, my God, I'm looking at the whole world and it really messes with your inner ear. Yeah. But it's the graphics are. I mean, they're not.
00:25:05
Speaker
what we're used to for our Xboxes and Playstations in our. Right. Considering there's no wires and it's completely self-contained. Yeah, that's the thing. It's amazing. Yeah. My mother and I played mini golf the other day. Yeah. And you know what? About two minutes into it, I found myself just playing regular mini golf. Huh. Like I'm lining my feet up with the hole. Yeah. I'm lining my putter. I mean,
00:25:32
Speaker
just playing mini golf. So you have two headsets? No, she has one down in Alabama. Oh, you're playing virtually. Yeah, yeah. That's neat. Yeah. So you're virtually playing virtual reality. Yes, yes. Yeah, we meet up and play mini golf. That's really cool. She wanted to do. It's pretty amazing. Yeah. And I don't know
00:25:58
Speaker
Like their sound is amazing considering there's no microphone, there's no headphones. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah. I'm shocked actually. That's awesome. Yeah. I did go see a concert in the Metaverse. Dogecat. Nice. The only thing I know is I don't know who Dogecat is and I don't like their music.
00:26:27
Speaker
But it's pretty cool. You're just, you're just there watching a concert. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Yeah. And you don't have people all around you touching you. Yeah. You don't have people around smelling them. The laser tag is annoying because these little kids are way better than I am. Like crazy better than I am. Yeah. Um, yeah. Well, see now you need to get the 360 treadmill thing so you can actually like run on it.
00:26:55
Speaker
Sure, yeah. The first thing I need to do is rearrange my room so that I don't have so much crap in the way. Because I have hurt myself twice with the VR. The very first time I played the Wrath of Asgard, I just forgot that I couldn't run. And I just ran across my room. Like full on sprinting. Yeah.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yeah. I was like, I have to kill that dragon. Oh, ow. That's my foot. Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. But you just, your mind forgets. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. That's the nice thing where it's so immersive. Yeah. I will say.
00:27:39
Speaker
They need to do a better job of the loading screen sometimes, because sometimes you load into some things in the meta, you're just standing over like a lake of nothingness. Oh, that's terrifying. So if you look down, it's like, oh, that's that's not something I need in my life. Yeah. Well, I know I haven't busted out my PlayStation VR in ages, but I remember when I first was, you know,
00:28:05
Speaker
They say getting into and everything. I'd have to do it like 30 minutes at a time to build up like a tolerance. Mm hmm. Yeah. And there are some games that are worse than others. Like, oh, my gosh, the one was Iron Man VR. Oh, that could be that could be tough. Oh, yes, Spider Man. Those were the worst flying I have found has been the worst. Yeah. Anytime I'm flying, it's it's brutal. Yeah. But I mean, I've been
00:28:33
Speaker
I've wanted to try VR, like really, really tried. I've tried it a couple of times. I tried it once with you. Yeah. But I really wanted to. Give it or else. And I got to say, I'm really impressed. Yeah. And I mean, the meta quest is definitely a much more approachable entry point than like the Apple Vision Pro or whatever. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to spend thirty five hundred dollars on a magic hat. Right. My question is not cheap.
00:29:03
Speaker
No, but it's 500. Yeah. But again, that's, you know, a seventh of the price of the Apple thing. Right. And it's 500 and you don't need a computer. Yeah. That was always the hang up before the with like the Oculus. You had to have a computer. Yep. That was capable to run VR. And then you had to buy the VR headset and then you have wires and all that stuff. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's my PlayStation one. I've got, you know, a box that runs off the PlayStation that runs to the hat. Right. This is. And then you have to have a camera and.
00:29:34
Speaker
This is literally a, put it on your head and you got two controllers, literal magic hat, literal magic hat. And it's really crazy. They have an amazing feature that it's got cameras all around the front of the headpiece. Yeah. So if you, if you like go outside of your, your zone, your barriers, it just switches over to cameras. Oh, so you can see what's going on in the real world around you.
00:30:00
Speaker
Oh, so the other day when you ran into the wall, you saw the wall half a second before you hit it. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't my wall. It was my recliner. Oh, okay. Yeah. But yes, basically I, but yeah, as soon as you hit that barrier and you go past it, your, your switches to cameras, so you can see. And there's, there's a couple of games like that take advantage of that, which is kind of cool.
00:30:27
Speaker
Like it uses your room and all of a sudden you're in a game in your room. Oh, nice. That's pretty cool. But you could play the floor is lava. Yeah, you could totally play the floor. You could totally do that. Hmm. So you went to a concert. Are there other things you can do, like go to like landmarks or things like that? And that's the one thing I need to explore more. I hope so. Yeah. Have you tried YouTube?
00:30:56
Speaker
on it yet. I haven't tried YouTube on it yet. Because YouTube has VR stuff. Right. So. Yeah, I need to. I've basically been doing the fitness thing, playing a couple games and messing around. That's cool. But I have to limit myself to like an hour seems to be the max I can really do. Yeah. You start getting that weird sweat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Or just load up on Dramamine.
00:31:23
Speaker
Yeah, then I'm just asleep on the floor, but sure. But it's really fun, I gotta say. I did have to reactivate my Facebook account, which is annoying, but... Oh, you do? Yeah, because it's all tied together. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Oh, God. I don't have to use it. Okay. Yeah. I just had to have it. Yeah. But it's fine. You get a little avatar you get to mess around with. Okay.
00:31:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, that's been I guess it's been a really interesting experience. And this is like I know this is the third generation of the meta, but I still feel like it's early days and what we are can really, really do. You know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, the crazy stuff that Apple's doing with its new thing. Yeah. Where you can like, you know,
00:32:16
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You know, I see people just, you know, videos of people just walking around with the goggles on. Like in real, you know, just down the street and stuff. Yeah, you could technically do the same thing about a quest. And I think it's the I think they're doing it the same way. You have to make a hotspot on your phone. Yeah. And you're just using the hotspot on your phone. You could do that with a question. I just I don't need to. Do that. Right. Yes, I don't see the. I mean, until the point where, you know, if it's one of those things like
00:32:46
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You've got the goggles on or whatever, and you can interact, you know, like you're going, I don't know, you're through the airport and you can interact with things as you're, you know, like, oh, look, here's this kiosk. I'm done. And, you know, I don't have to manually touch things. That'd be nice. Yeah. Yeah, it's been a double.
00:33:08
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like new thing experience. Cause my wife, cause we got the switch for Christmas for my mother and my wife's been playing the switch. She's playing Hollow Knight and getting very frustrated. Yeah. Excuse me. I don't understand what I'm supposed to do. I'm like, you just play the game. She's like, what am I supposed to do? I'm like, you gotta buy these things and you build up your map and you gotta go play the game. I'm like, no, no, no, no. Just go play. So if there's no instructions, I'm like, yeah, that's how it works now. Yeah.
00:33:39
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Try fail. Try again. Yeah. Yeah. Duh. Duh. Good dude. So that's my video game report. I don't really have anything else. I mean, but playing ball is good again. Yeah, I'm about to get back into that. Yeah, I got to finish out my. Was it the dark arisen play through? Oh, nice. Yeah. Dark urge. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:08
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We've been playing Lethal Company. Yeah, you were saying something about that. Oh my god, it is. I have never laughed as hard as I've laughed at that game. Insane. Yeah. For a dumb little game, like the graphics aren't amazing, but. It don't have to be. Don't have to, it doesn't have to be. But for like, and I think it's just like one guy
00:34:36
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made this game. Nice. And it is so such a swacky shit happens. Yeah. And the best decision they ever had was that it's all voice comms like so like, you know, you're supposed to play it without discord or anything. So you're just talking to each other in and it's distant. So, you know, you walk away from somebody they can't hear you anymore. And if you die,
00:35:01
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You can't talk anymore. But you can talk to other people that are dead and you can just watch the chaos happen. It's amazing. Nice. It has been, like I said, I literally almost pissed myself crying and laughing the other day. It's an amazing game. So I highly recommend Lethal Company to people.
00:35:28
Speaker
But my brother was like, no, people should stream this. It's fun. I'm like, I don't want to stream it. I just want to enjoy it. You don't want to be that guy. Yeah, I just want to enjoy the moment. I don't want to try to pretend. I thought about streaming. But yeah, and then it's like, oh, well, I've got to talk to people while I'm doing it and this and that. I'm like, but then it's taken me out of my game. Yeah. And like, I don't like my brother's like, wow, if you start streaming in this game, then you have to play that game a lot. And I'm like, yeah, I don't want to do that. Yeah, no.
00:35:57
Speaker
Like if people wanted to watch me play stupid games, sure, but I'm going to play random games, random times. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to, I can't be one of those people that's like, Oh, yeah, it's, it's reset day on destiny. I'll be on from six to eight to show you the new things this week. And then tomorrow's reset on warframe or whatever. I'm not doing that. Yeah. I'm one of those. It's like, yeah, I might, I might start playing at four o'clock in the afternoon instead of six o'clock. So.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah. So right now my schedule is. Oh yeah. Yeah. Especially on shift work. Yeah. Oh, what are you doing at six in the morning? I'm playing. Yeah. A couple of buddies of mine started playing hell divers. Oh, that's an old game. There was a new one. Hell divers too. Oh, okay. I didn't know there was a new one. Yep. My neighbor loves that game. Yeah. Usually you should get it and we can all play again together. I'm like, I,
00:36:55
Speaker
I love you guys, but I don't know if I want to buy a game that I might be able to hook up with you every now and again. It's kind of fun. It's a fun. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I could do that. Yeah. I look to see if there's like if the single player part of it's robust enough that if I'm not squatting up with them, I can still have fun.
00:37:15
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Um, I don't know if I'm the first, like it's been a loss. I played the first one. I can't remember. Yeah. I remember being a fun event. You know, it's a fun game. My problem is my neighbor is one of these guys that when he plays a game, he grinds everything. Ah. And then when you play with him, he's just like, I'm level a hundred with all this superpower OP stuff. It's like, Oh, this isn't fun for me. Yeah. Well, I'm not. Right. I'm level two.
00:37:42
Speaker
Is there a way for me to cut your hamstring so they will attack you instead of me? That is my video game report. Yeah. Well, kind of into that VR stuff. Did you hear what Disney just did?
Virtual Worlds and Gaming Trends
00:37:58
Speaker
They invested $1.5 billion into Fortnite Epic games. I did not know that. Yeah. And it sounds like they want to build to the way I'm interpreting it. They want to build like a virtual Disneyland almost.
00:38:12
Speaker
I was like in the little announcement or whatever, they had like these islands in Fortnite and it was like the ESPN island and the Star Wars island and, you know, Marvel and all these. And it's like, OK, that's kind of cool. And somebody's like, yeah, well, what are people going to do with the ESPN one or whatever? I'm like. They'll go watch the Super Bowl together or something, you know, totally good. That's that's pretty good news, you know. Yeah, I mean,
00:38:43
Speaker
I think. I think more people are understanding that having virtual interaction isn't a bad thing. Yeah, I mean. I think we're at that point, right? Yeah. It's. You put on your magic hat or your discord or whatever and chat with whoever and. Yeah, it's become acceptable, which is great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:12
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I mean, yeah, couch co-op is a ton of fun. But if you can't do it, there's other options. And I'm glad that they are. I mean, cultural is kind of fun, but that's the last time we had. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's been so long. Yeah. Or the LAN parties where everybody brought their stuff over and. Yeah, I miss those days. Can you imagine how easy it would be now? People are like, oh, yeah, I brought my laptop.
00:39:38
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Yeah, but so much easier just to not do that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My house. Yeah. Hmm. Oh, look, I see so and so is online. I'll send them a message. Right. Yeah. So with your meta quest, what are the controllers like? Is it one in each hand and they're like? Yeah, it's one in each hand. They both have thumbsticks and they have three buttons on each one. Oh, OK.
00:40:06
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So it's it's pretty intuitive. Yeah. It takes a couple seconds to like. Look at the controllers and figure out which buttons, but you don't. And then it's got triggers, you know. OK. For most part in the game so far, I haven't you don't really hit the buttons much as mostly the triggers. Yeah, this is kind of like the like if you want to grab something, you reach out, put your hand over it, hold the trigger to pick it up.
00:40:32
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or to like hold on to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or there's things where you just like kind of suck things into you. Yeah. Yeah. Like you have like a like the mini golf thing, you have to find all the secret balls and you have to go around the VR world and find little balls that you have. Yeah, it's it's driving me nuts because there's one on each hole and I haven't found like six of them so far. Now, is there a way when you have that on?
00:41:02
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for your wife to see like what you're doing on TV. Can you like cast it to a TV or something? There is a way to do that. I'm not sure how to do it yet. That's cool. There is a way. Yeah. You can totally cast it to a TV. I think you can even stream it if you really want to do. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't messed with the that kind of stuff. Yeah. So I just got it two weeks ago. I'm still getting into all the things. Is it?
00:41:33
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It's wifi. I take it. It is. Yeah. 100% wifi. Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah. Cause you said you would, you know, if you're outside, you'd have to hotspot your phone. Yeah. Yeah. I don't imagine you have to be connected to internet all the time. Yeah. I'm sure. Remember when we were like, Oh, you have to be connected all the time to the internet. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if we're not connected to internet, it's like, what? I can't do anything. Right. Get out my pencil, paper, plate, tic tac toe.
00:42:05
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Yeah, I've even seen like VR. There's like, you know, you can play tabletop games and stuff. Yeah, you can play. There's board games in VR and all kinds of stuff. Yeah. Which is nice. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I told my mother. I'm like, hey, we play some board games. Yeah, neat. Play Monopolies looking at each other. Is there. Does anyone honestly start a game of Monopoly thinking everyone's going to be friends at the end? I hope not. Yeah, that's not going to happen.
00:42:35
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Is anybody happy at the end of Monopoly? No, I don't think the quote unquote winner is. No, I hope not. Because I mean, at that point, it's, you know, they've got all this money and everything and everybody else around the table is like, you know what? Forget it. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. There's no like you won. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah. Because at least like in the game of life and things, it's like, OK, everybody made it to the end and here's how you know how things shook out.
00:43:04
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No, monopoly is just, oh, yeah, I'm going to cripple you and put you into debt. God, that's what's wrong with us. Oh, well, it's not new now. Yeah. Yeah, I saw you know, has like this big social media campaign and they're like for the love of God, you can't place a plus two on a plus two. You can't put a draw for on a draw for it's. Yeah, I was like that. No, no, no, no. House rules. What are you talking about? That's wrong.
Gaming Rules and Future Debates
00:43:33
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Yeah. Uno is saying that if somebody plays a, you know, a plus two to you, you can't put another plus two to get it to plus four to the next person that can keep going on. They think because they invented the game, they know what they're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't buy that crap. Yeah. I'm sorry. Oh, what's that? You put a draw four on me. I'm going to put another draw four on top of that and send it next door. Yeah. Yeah. And ruin someone's life. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Now, do you,
00:44:02
Speaker
For you know, do you play like draw till you get that? Like if you don't have a blue, you got to draw until you go. Yeah. Yeah. God, it's hilarious when people up for all like 15 cards. Yeah. That's what makes you know. So terrible. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely another one of those games that nobody's happy. No, no one. Yep. I can't imagine anyone feels good folks out there if you want fun. Yeah. Play that with a kid. Yeah. Watch their heartbreak.
00:44:33
Speaker
Yeah. It's the same. You're ruining someone's life. Or it's the other way around and the kid gets the luck and the adult is ready to strangle them. Yeah. Not that I've ever done that. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. That's why my wife and I play cooperative board games for the most part. Cooperative. Yeah. That's much nicer. Yeah. Not for our lives.
00:45:04
Speaker
Well, move on to topic two. Sure. Topic two. This is kind of staying close to the same topic. So did you see the big hoop hoopla really? But Microsoft is saying a couple of its games will probably come to PlayStation like a year after release, like Starfield and the Indiana Jones game. I did not see that. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody's like, this is the end of Microsoft and this and that. I'm like,
00:45:34
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I think it's just game companies are understanding they need to evolve from just being hardware to, you know, maybe it's more cost-effective for some of them to just be a software company. Well, I'm pretty sure Microsoft's already said they want to get out of the hardware game. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. And if they were already putting some of their stuff on the switch, which I don't know how that works, but yeah, I'm fairly certain that, uh,
00:46:02
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Well, I don't know if they're actually, but once this generation of Xbox X came out, I think they said that this they want to get out of it because I don't think I think also with PlayStation, they don't make money on their consoles. No, no, they don't know. It's definitely the software. I mean, Sony's been putting games on PC for a while now. Yeah. I mean, it's yeah, to me, it makes sense. And, you know, it should just be. Well, that's we never in the day
00:46:33
Speaker
Be like, Oh, what kind of computer you have? I got it. No. Oh, you have an early. Well, I have a Dell or, you know, I have an HP. Nobody, nobody paid attention to that. So, you know, everybody was, you know, for the PC game, you know, oh, yeah, both of them can run Excel. Great. So your hatred of PCs. I just, I just, yeah. But, but I get it. Yeah, I think. Gaming as a whole is going to,
00:47:03
Speaker
turn pretty hardware agnostic soon. I guess the until I think PlayStation is the problem. I think so. Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah. Well, because right now Sony's on top. Are they on top? Yeah. Money wise, money wise, they are. Are they? Yeah. I'm pretty sure Microsoft makes a whole lot more money.
00:47:29
Speaker
That's the problem is Sony looks in and says, well, yeah, the PlayStation makes more than the Xbox, but Microsoft hasn't said, no, we make more money. Yeah. When you look at console to console, it's Sony. If you look at it, yeah, company to company, Microsoft blows them out of the water. Yeah. I think that's why Microsoft looks at it and says, we're not in a console where we've already won the war. Like, you know, they just care about the software because they make so much more money. Yeah. Yeah. And people are like, oh,
00:47:57
Speaker
If a new game comes out day and date, you know, it's why, how would that hurt Microsoft if you could get game pass on Sony? I think Microsoft looks at it says people are paying us game pass money. That's a win. That's all it. Yeah. Yeah. Show me the money. Yeah. I think console wars were invented by people who don't understand business. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, it was people at Microsoft.
00:48:26
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Well, yeah, it was Nintendo and Sega. And the turbo graphics 16, it was that era where, you know.
00:48:33
Speaker
But the same thing happened where Sega was like, oh, okay, we'll just become a software publisher. Exactly. And we'll make all our money off software. Yeah. And then Nintendo said, well, we'll just continue to make weird Nintendo decisions. Nintendo said, well, we're just going to, we're going to be happy taking our little share of the market, which is fine. Nintendo's always had its little niche market. Yeah.
00:48:57
Speaker
but Sega became this software publishing giant and made all of its money that way. I would say more people have played Sega games than have ever played a Nintendo game. Probably. It seems like heretic to say that.
00:49:13
Speaker
Yeah, because you think of all the classic Nintendo games with Sega. It's just published all these games that you've played without realizing they were second games. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like all the Atlas games and stuff like that. It's like, I'll tie back to Sega or, you know, they did all the total war games for Sega. I mean, they killed it for a long time. I don't know what they're doing now. They're still doing stuff. Yeah. Now they got their movies and things. Sonic movies. Yeah. Laughing at the Nintendo movies, which are bad.
00:49:42
Speaker
The Mario movie was good. Oh boy. The animated one. The animated one. Yeah, Chris Pratt. Oh, I heard. All I heard was hate about that. Oh, no, that was a fun movie. OK. Yeah. No, no, not as good as the John Lucas. Oh, my gosh. Now, that was a travesty. I don't know that I've watched that the whole way through. I don't think you can.
00:50:07
Speaker
It just shuts off like 30 minutes in. You've had enough for today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I just think that's the way real companies act. Yeah. And the fan base is like, Oh no, it's got to be a console. So that's not how they think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Microsoft is like, cool. You bought a Samsung TV that has game pass built into it. Sweet. Here's a controller. Go have fun.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah, I think, well, I also think not to dig at Sony. No, you dig away. But I think Microsoft is much more visionary when it comes to what games are going to be. Yes. Whereas Sony is like, no, no, no, you have to play on our console. Yep. And our console is the only way to do it. It's like, well, as soon as you put a console out, it's already obsolete. Yeah. Like, if you, I know you hate PCs.
00:51:06
Speaker
Your console is not as good as any PC ever. No. But the only reason your console is so good is that it it runs very specific things well. Right. Yeah. I mean, that's the the tricky part with any software developer. They're like, OK, well, we're building it on this PC and now we have to tweak it. So, you know, the X can run it and the switch can run it and the PlayStation can run it. Right. And that's.
00:51:34
Speaker
And the PC can run it. As games develop and the world develops, I mean, this is terrible to say because I was a console gamer my entire life, basically. I rarely ever turn on my Xbox.
00:51:55
Speaker
Because why would I? It's more convenient to be playing those same games on Game Pass, or hell, I can play some games on my phone. Yeah. Like there's Xbox games that I can cast to my phone. Right, yeah.
00:52:10
Speaker
Why would I sit down and play at a console? And if you think that that is, you know, I could see that now that that's becoming convenient. What's that going to look like in 10 years? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. You know, you're not going to buy the PlayStation 12. No, because now you'll subscribe to whatever service it is. And like you said, either you've got your tablet or your phone or whatever it is. Yeah, I mean, I remember
00:52:40
Speaker
even five years ago when people had controllers for their phones. I was like, that's weird. But now I look at it and say, is it weird? Yeah, like the backbone. Yeah. Yeah. I've got friends who use them all the time and they said they're great. Yeah. As that technology develops, it's going to, as Meta or some company, 99B Metabus,
00:53:03
Speaker
They as they push more portable stuff. Yeah. Your home PC and TV thing is just going to go away. Right. Well, yeah, because if you can, you know, if they can have these server banks or whatever and you are. Quickly able to, you know, stream things to your phone or, you know, device or whatever, you know, have the computing power off site and just get the benefits of it in your hand. Yeah, that's that's the win.
00:53:33
Speaker
I mean, that was the point of Stadia. I just think they were ahead of the curve too much. Well, I think they there was the curve and then they jumped way in front of it and there was no way for them to actually land on the curve. Yeah. So, yeah. But they were just but that's. That's them looking at going, that's the future. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope and I know it hurt Google big time, but I hope they still have like Fred or somebody messing around with it. And how can we get it to work? Right.
00:54:03
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely hurt them because much like when Xbox, the first Xbox one came out and they're like, we're not going to have a disk drive. Yeah. And you have to be connected to the internet and everybody freaked out and said, Oh my God, you can't live like that. And now here we are.
00:54:26
Speaker
Xbox One X or whatever. Yeah. And we're in the next generation of that. Nobody has a disk drive. You always make the Internet and no one says a thing. Right. Right. So Stadia comes out and everybody's like, oh, but the next thing that comes out that's like Stadia and people are like, oh, yeah. Yep. Yes, that was right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I've got a disk drive on my PlayStation. I can't remember the last time I used it. Right. Because why would you? You know,
00:54:54
Speaker
You know, I can be at work on my lunch break, look and say, oh, that game's out. Click it on my phone. Click the download. And by the time I get home, it's it's there, ready and up and updated. Right. Because it's. And yeah, that's the other people that are like, oh, connected to the Internet all the time. Your little phone in your pocket is always connected to the Internet. So shut your mouth.
00:55:18
Speaker
Yeah, it's like my wife would start playing the switch. And not that I was ever down on the switch, I was like, it just can't be that good. Yeah. I'm going to tell you it's that good. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Now it's not going to run, you know, 1080p or anything like that. Sure, but it doesn't have to. No, no, it's good at what it does. Oh, I think the problem is people like,
00:55:40
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They look for it to say 1080p, 1080p is a buzzword, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. 1080p works great on a big TV. Right. 4K works great on a giant TV. But when you're looking at an OLED screen the size of the Switch, you don't need 4K. Right. You need that resolution. Yeah. You know, 8K is a great theory. Yeah. But if you don't have an 8K TV, it doesn't matter. Well, and that's like the people that are like, oh, it's got, it runs less than 60 frames per second. I'm sorry. My old man eyes, I can't tell the difference. Right.
00:56:09
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. So but I will say one thing with the switch, I don't like the buttons. Sure. It's fair. I do not like their controllers. It's a fair. Well, I don't like PlayStation controller. So, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of my problems with PlayStation. I'm like, what is this child's toy in my hands? It's just it looks like a little crack and crumble. And oh, my gosh. Yeah, I'm sorry. Go play your Turbo Tax.
00:56:39
Speaker
Well, I'm just going to throw this out there to say who won the console wars. Every PC player who uses a controller uses an Xbox controller. Yeah. Because the Xbox controller is superior. I'm sorry. You just have to admit it. I don't want to. I won't. But it's true. No, it's just more comfortable. Go back to a good old NES controller, which was the least of where it dug into the corners of your hands.
00:57:09
Speaker
There was no comfortable way to hold it. Did you see the weirdos that would hold it in front of their face and like play with their index fingers? I would see that. I saw the people who would like turn it in their hands the wrong way. Yeah. They would like turn it all. It was weird. Yeah. But that's how you know you're a PlayStation player. Like, unless I feel pain using the controller, it is not worth it. I feel no pain. No, no.
00:57:33
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No, the N64 was the most awkward controller. Yeah, the N64 was bonkers. It doesn't even look like it's made for human hands. It's not, because it has three, like, two wands, and you're like...
00:57:45
Speaker
What where do I put the third one, the middle one in my belly button while I play? I mean, what is the point? Good old, good old answer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I'm I'm sure, look, I mean, it's it's easy to bag on Nintendo. You know, I hope with their switch to or whatever, they don't do something weird like, oh, it's a clamshell again or right now. Oh, you can you can buy the extra C stick that'll function here or something. Yeah.
00:58:13
Speaker
This is weird. Nintendo decisions. It's always weird. And that's why we love Nintendo because they just continue to be Nintendo. Yeah. I mean, my wife and kids, they play the Super Mario World, the latest, you know, 3D or 2D Mario thing. It's like you play up to four players and this and that. Look, I'll come play with us and I'll watch them play. I'm like, no, I'm not playing with you because you're all animals.
00:58:41
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You're scrolling each other off the screens. You're yelling at each other. You're not working together. This doesn't look like this. This is the monopoly of family for Nintendo. No. Yeah. I'll come in here to play my PlayStation. I'll have my headset on and I can still hear them yelling at each other. Yeah. Yeah. It's always nice to hear from the other room. You're the problem with this game. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:10
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Yeah, now they're like going back level by level and like getting all the little secrets in it. Hilarious to listen to them. I mean, I get anxiety watching them like I got to walk away. Yeah. Well, that's because, you know, girls don't share. Yeah. And I did see this thing that they said the most stressful game is Super Mario Kart. Oh, really? Yes. They like I can't remember how many games they looked at, but they rated people's like
00:59:39
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heart rate changes and like the sweat on their hands and all that kind of stuff. And yeah, Mario Kart has the highest. Because I guess, you know, there's always that chance you're going to be right at the finish line and get hit by a shell or. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Well, I had a short, but my wife's about to leave.
01:00:01
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Yeah, no, no, it's been a it's been a good cast of the pod cast of the pod. Yep, I hope. Wait, leave like that. So just kick her in the knee. She can't leave. Yeah. Well, folks, enjoy your smart weather. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Enjoy your football game. Yeah. I'll go Taylor Swift. Go Taylor Swift. And we'll see you next time. Yep. Good to each other. Be good.