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Episode 24 Escape the Matrix of Big Tech's digital prison
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Sean Patrick Tario is a data center and IT infrastructure expert. He peaced out of Silicon Valley after a lucrative 16 year career when he saw the censorship and evil schemes they were developing and started Mark37.com.
He's now focused on helping people "escape the Matrix" of Big Tech's digital prison by creating parallel systems and solutions that maximize privacy and security and "starve the Beast" of the data they're trying to harvest from us.
Sean is passionate about his work and he speaks with the conviction of a pastor delivering a sermon. It’s hard not to feel inspired while listening to him talk about why we need to escape this digital prison Big Tech is constructing around us. I’m certain you’ll be inspired as well after hearing our conversation.
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Transcript
Introduction to Escaping Big Tech
00:00:00
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Hey, I've got some news for you. You're a slave and you don't even know it, which is why it's time to break free from The Matrix and escape Big Tech and their digital prison with a privacy and security minded ghost device.
Community and Lifestyle Shift
00:00:14
Speaker
The folks at mark37.com are a community of liberty minded innovators, entrepreneurs and technologists who refuse to sit idly by watching the tyranny of Big Tech, Big Pharma and our very own government attempt to silence, cancel and control us.
00:00:30
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They are working tirelessly to create solutions and parallel systems so we can ditch big tech once and for all. However, this requires a little bit of a personal lifestyle shift.
Privacy-Focused Devices
00:00:42
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If you're like me and are on the technologically challenged side of things, the Geek Squad at Mark37 will conduct personal or group trainings
00:00:50
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to get you up to speed on how to operate your new devices. Get one of their ghost phones or ghost computers. The ghost devices are designed to provide a baseline level of privacy and security that makes you and your device much harder to target by hackers and spies. Most importantly, it pulls you out of nearly all the data harvesting mechanisms used by the likes of Google
00:01:13
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Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon. The harder we make it for Big Tech to track and collect our data, the less easily they can manipulate us. Anything we can do to throw sand in the gears of the scheming globalists trying to enslave us in a digital prison, the better.
00:01:29
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So if you want to escape the matrix and get out from under the thumb of Big Tech and the watchful eye of Big Brother, you need to get one of these ghost devices. Go to libertyalliancenetwork.com forward slash ghost and pick up a device today. That's libertyalliancenetwork.com slash ghost. Let's get back to the show.
Sean's Background and Awakening
00:02:07
Speaker
All right, welcome back to another episode of Liberty Alliance Networks. What can we do? I'm Haley Heathman, and today I am going to be joined by Sean Patrick Tarrio. Sean is a Christian conservative and seasoned IT professional, entrepreneur, and seed stage investor.
00:02:25
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He has made his career in the tech and data center world and is using those skills to create parallel systems and solutions to fight back against the evil forces that currently dominate the tech space. Sean is looking to join forces with other Liberty lovers who are awake to the spiritual battle we're fighting today, which is why I thought he would be a perfect guest for my show. Sean, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me, Haley. Looking forward to the conversation.
00:02:48
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Yeah. I was really excited when your assistant reached out to me and I started looking into your background and everything. I was like, yes, finally. I love talking to everyday average citizens who are fighting back and taking measures because we need to show that
00:03:07
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you have the power. You don't have to have a huge platform or everything to make a difference. However, I think people on our side get a little bit discouraged and a little bit black-pilled when it seems like all the forces are aligning against us. And so it's nice to see, I say like,
00:03:23
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What came to mind was, I don't know if you've ever seen that movie Taken with Liam Neeson. And he's like, I have a very particular set of skills, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. And I'm like, yes, finally somebody with some skills and some know-how and some chutzpah and with the right knowledge that we need to kind of start taking on these bigger fights. And so that said, why don't you tell me a little bit about those skills and a bit about your background?
Silicon Valley Insights
00:03:53
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Sure. So I have a very eclectic, interesting background. The key of it is that at a very young age, I was exposed to a lot of truth. So I had a father, for example, who sat me down at age 14 and made me watch the VHS series, I think it was like a seven VHS series on the creature from Jekyll Island, which is kind of the history of money and banking, right? And the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal nor reserve. So
00:04:21
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at a very young age i became a conspiracy theorist and realist right understanding just understanding the systems of what makes the world work and realizing how important money is and how money is really just energy
00:04:34
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And if you can convince everybody that all of your energy and all that is important is in the form of this one thing called a dollar, then you can kind of shape consciousness around that as being that which is the most powerful. So with that as the framing and context, I've been an entrepreneur, grew up in Chicago, then went to Santa Clara University in the Bay Area in Santa Clara, California.
00:05:00
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spent a lot of time out in California, spent about 16 years out there, realized what was going on out there in terms of the money influence and just the, I would say, narcissism that goes on in Silicon Valley, and really follow the money.
00:05:19
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with the venture capital firms, with the private equity firms, with the technology companies. And it's not just following the money, but you have to look at who has the power and control in these businesses. And once you understand who has the influence and the power and the control, because it's not always the executives. The executives may just be kind of talking heads and pawns in the game. You look at who has the control and then what is their ethos.
00:05:41
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And as I started to unwrap this onion of who these people were and what their ethos was, it was very frightening and very scary because it was the same globalist individuals who have an agenda, which is to destroy nation states and to create a one world currency, one world government, which they used to hide.
00:06:02
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This used to be stuff where I would explain this to people and they'd say, Oh, that's conspiracy. That's, you know, you're crazy. Like point me at where you, where you had to, where you found this information out. And it was like esoteric readings and books that you would kind of have to point people at. But now they're at Davos at the World Economic Forum.
00:06:19
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overtly telling you exactly what they're trying to do. They want to depopulate the earth. They want to get rid of the nation-states. They want to do all these things. So I've been on top of this for far too long. You know, I've regrettingly tell people that, you know, I've been warning people about this coming for far too long. And as things started to play out, even with COVID,
00:06:40
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I was warning people that this is gonna be leveraged as a jelly and dialectic They already have the endgame that they're gonna push people towards and that's a variety of things. It wasn't just one thing So anyway, it was very
00:06:55
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Interesting for me growing up because I understood the truth. I understood how to follow money and find the ethos. And I was in the IT space. I was working for software development companies, for data center companies, literally the ground floor infrastructure that is like pseudoscience and kind of magic to most people. They don't understand how the internet works. I was literally on the ground floor in these facilities coaching and training people about how this industry works. And I wrote a book on the industry called the Data Center Collocation Industry Playbook.
00:07:25
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It's literally like data center and hosting for dummies. I've trained thousands of people around the world on this topic.
00:07:31
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So I was in a very unique position, um, really in the late, you know, 19, I'm sorry, 2016, 2017, 2018, when I saw the writing on the wall, I saw that they were going to attack and go after conservatives carte blanche, you know, after Trump took office and they saw the effectiveness of his policies. They knew that they could not have another four years of him in office.
00:07:56
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And regardless of how you feel about Trump as a person, I believe I vote for policies, I don't vote for individuals. So I was a big fan of his policies and the fact that he was educating and training people on our financial systems, on our foreign trade policies, on foreign wars being literally a racket.
00:08:17
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I knew that they were going to come after him. And so I was literally pleading with my friends that were online conservatives that they were going to be deplatformed. And the response I consistently got was, Sean, you're insane. This is America. We have the First Amendment. These companies can't do that. They won't do that. And I had to explain to folks like, look, you're crazy to think that they won't do anything and everything to accomplish the means that they mean to accomplish. So if
00:08:47
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you can wrap your head around what really they're trying to accomplish from a depopulation perspective from, you know, go down the list.
00:08:55
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It's an ends justify the means mentality. So it does not matter if it's unconstitutional because the vast majority of people don't even know what the Constitution even is anymore. It doesn't matter that it's unethical because we're dealing with people who do not have a code of ethics other than the golden rule for them, which is he who has the gold makes the rule, right? So we're dealing with a group of people who have influence and control and operate very much at a military standpoint where the grunts on the ground
00:09:25
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really don't know what the admirals and the generals know, and they're not supposed to know, but they're still fighting the fight and attacking whatever the target is. And you had mentioned something early on when we were talking before we went live about why you're doing what you're doing and how, you know, the liberals have been not just liberals, but Democrats and liberals and those who were fighting against seem to be very
00:09:53
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consistent in their efforts and they seem to be far more organized. And that's a big result of the money, right? Because they're literally getting paid to organize.
Conservative Organizing and Resistance
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They're getting paid to go after an attack on these different issues. Whereas on our side of the fence, whether it's conservatives or Christians or
00:10:13
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You know, Republicans, we don't have that kind of money because all of us are independent. We're doing our own thing. We don't have, you know, access to billions or trillions of dollars that's being spent on NGOs or other nonprofit organizations that are just focused on certain activities. So it's really kind of left to us individuals to invest in these different causes and whatnot. So long story short, I was screaming and yelling, trying to tell people this is going to happen.
00:10:42
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And then January 6th happened. And Parler was de-platformed from Amazon Web Services and they were literally given 24 hour notice that they were gonna be kicked off and booted off for violating their terms of service.
00:10:55
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That was the lightning rod and the wake up call for most conservatives online. And my phone sort of blowing up with the people who I've been trying to warn who said, holy smokeshawn, you were right. They did this. They're coming for us next. What do we do? And so that sparked a
00:11:15
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really me and a handful of others to start organizing and getting together all of the different data center owner operators, the hosting providers, the network service providers who were pro freedom of speech, pro second amendment, pro fifth amendment, fourth amendment, pro constitution, and wanting to fight and defend our four unalienable rights. So I'll stop my rant right now and background, but that's really where I come from.
00:11:41
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Well, and it's great that you were awake to this early on, as was I. I've been kind of in this space for 10 years or more. For a long time, just as a background watcher, but well known to some of the resources, the same information that you are. And so when COVID happened, I knew right away, I was like, no, this is something right here. From the big pharma standpoint, the vaccines that they're going to push, I was pretty quick with this ain't right.
00:12:11
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So tell me, you were in the belly of the beast for quite a while in the Bay Area and even growing up in Chicago. What did you see while you were in there that started to raise some red flags about, oh, whoa, this is going the wrong direction? And what started to tip you off that something was amiss in the tech world?
00:12:35
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It was really, again, following the money. So as I started looking into where the different individuals who had the stakes in the different venture capital firms and the individuals and or funds that had stakes in the private equity firms, because it all goes back to people, right? Individual humans, like we look at organizations, but we don't always tend to think, well, those organizations are run by humans, right? And those humans have an ethos, like they have a way of life, they have a way of believing
00:13:05
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how the world should operate or how it operates. So for me, I was always following the money looking at that ethos. And when I started doing that for a lot of these venture capital firms, I started realizing that it was the same people that had money spread out across all these different companies.
00:13:24
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same organizations that had money spread out across all these organizations. And, you know, I was an econ poli sci double major in at school. And so I learned a lot about how who owns everything who runs everything and how interrelated these parties are. And I jokingly kind of say that I had a pseudo minor in secret societies, but I've dug down these rabbit holes of these different societies that have existed for
00:13:48
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not just dozens but hundreds and if you know some case thousands of years and the ethos of some of these folks and it's a very dark ethos when I started following the money and looking at the individuals and what groups and organizations that they were a part of.
00:14:04
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And then I started looking at the three-letter agencies and I started looking at DARPA. So for those who don't know, DARPA is basically like a skunkworks division within our Department of Defense that works on very advanced forward-thinking projects that they really don't want the public to know too much about because if we did, we probably would say, heck no, we don't want to fund this. We should not be allowing for this activity to go on. So when you file the money and you realize that our own three-letter agencies
00:14:33
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were backing venture capital firms and private equity firms in or providing grants to these startups that were all about data. They wanted data. If you did not have a data story in your pitch in Silicon Valley, you didn't get funding. So no matter what your business was, if you didn't somehow integrate how you were gonna be collecting and aggregating data, they didn't wanna have anything to do with it.
00:15:02
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So you just keep this in mind as I also read the Patriot Act when it was first pushed out onto people. And I was told I was crazy as a student being a senior in college reading through the Patriot Act saying, this is horrible, people. They're saying this is for national security purposes, but all this does is give carte blanche to our three letter agencies to call anyone a terrorist for any reason and for them to start collecting information and data on you.
00:15:30
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So all this kind of started clicking together and making sense, and I realized I need to get the heck out of here.
Departure from Silicon Valley
00:15:36
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Not only am I dealing within a community of sociopaths and psychopaths, but I'm dealing with very nefarious companies that are wanting to harvest and collect as much data as possible that they can then use, not just for marketing purposes.
00:15:52
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Right. So this isn't just, Oh, we can better target an audience to sell them things. Right. This is, we can better target an audience to change the way they think and operate. Right. At a very core fundamental level. So when we hear people talking about hacking human behavior,
00:16:10
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it's so much easier to hack behavior if you know where someone eats, sleeps, you know what they're buying, know their speech patterns based on having access to all their email, all their text messages, know who they're friends with, you know everything about someone, you can start to trigger them. And by withholding information or by pushing information, you know exactly how to push an individual in groups of people in a certain direction.
00:16:37
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So for those who are like, no, that's, you know, our government would never do that, which prior to COVID was a lot of people, right? A lot of people are like, our government would never do that. And then they started watching, you know, all the talk show hosts doing like songs and dances around getting vaccinated. And people started saying, wait a second, something's not right here. This is not, maybe I shouldn't just put my full faith and trust
00:17:01
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into these government agencies or the government or these talking heads on TV, maybe they're just getting paid to do this, right?
00:17:09
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And so it's a long-winded way of me saying, as I was out there in Silicon Valley, I also was traveling all over the country and all over the world teaching people about this industry. And it dawned on me that I was truly, as you said, in the belly of the beast. And I was living actually up in the mountains in Santa Cruz. And really the Lord spoke to my wife and I and said, you need to get out of here ASAP. And so we sold and moved to Raleigh, North Carolina.
00:17:34
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picked up our whole life and our family at that time. And sure enough, within six months, where we were living had landslides, fires, floods. It was messed up up there. So we got out just in time by the grace of God.
00:17:48
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Yeah, that's crazy. That's amazing. I'd say you were obviously more awake to this stuff before I was. I think we're about the same age. I definitely got my liberal indoctrination in college. Fortunately, I snapped out of it, but it wasn't until 2010 after Obama, once he got his second term and everything.
00:18:12
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When you were in Silicon Valley, knowing that obviously you were aware of what's going on, did you feel like you had to silence yourself and hold back and not share your true opinion on things? Did you feel like you were canceled? Did you have to talk in whispers to some of your colleagues about some of this? How much support did you get?
00:18:36
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Yeah, I got very little support, I can tell you that. And it was if I'm one on one face to face breaking bread with someone, I wear my heart on my sleeve. It's kind of my blessing and my curse. You know, I just let it rip, right? I don't really have a filter when I'm talking to people because I believe that we need to be spreading truth and love that we're on the front lines of this war. I've known that for decades. When I was online on LinkedIn, for example,
00:19:04
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I would keep a lot of that stuff in check because I was growing a business. I basically went out on my own and put my own shingle out in 2011, so I had my own company and my own business. But at the end of the day, I spent so long working for companies, having to work with people that I truly thought were just bad people. And I learned very early on in my career that I'd rather be working with people who were on the same team and on the same page as me, which is a big reason why I left to start my own business.
00:19:32
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For a long time, I've been more targeting those who were of like mind and like heart, because I wanted to support companies and businesses that were on the same mission as me. So it's kind of not like a brand new thing for me to be doing. I've been doing it for a while. But on LinkedIn, I was somewhat guarded in what I was saying and what I was doing, because I wanted to keep a professional demeanor when I was online. But in April of 22,
00:19:57
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I was kicked off of LinkedIn, woke up one day, tried to log into my account, couldn't get in, said I was canceled effectively, that I'd violated their terms of service. So they never said what I had done to violate the terms of service. But over the prior, I would say year and a half, I was, I was no holds barred on LinkedIn. I was constantly counter narrative, you know, asking questions for the most part. You know, simple questions like, well, what was the president of Ukraine's occupation prior to becoming the president of Ukraine?
00:20:29
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Has anyone seen the video of him dancing around naked on stage, years prior to him becoming the president of Ukraine dressed in drag? Or when people would talk about certain genocides going on, I would say, well, what about the genocide of the Uyghurs in China? What about the genocide in Yemen? What about the numerous genocides occurring in Africa right now? Just asking questions. And when they kept pressing me to put in my pronouns,
00:20:54
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which every time you log into LinkedIn and saying, please enter your pronouns, please enter your pronouns. My pronouns were awake, awakened. So, you know, I'm not shocked that LinkedIn took me down because LinkedIn is effectively owned by Microsoft.
00:21:09
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And they all share, they're all part of this Borg Hive collective, big tech collective that shares information with each other and the three letter agencies.
Censorship and Decentralized Solutions
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So I wasn't stunned that I was taken down, but it was rather fascinating to me that they literally purged every comment I ever made.
00:21:27
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every post I ever made in my entire existence from LinkedIn. So I had friends call me within a week just saying, Sean, what happened? Why'd you leave LinkedIn? I was like, what? I didn't do it, you know, by my own volition. But do me a favor and just look for trying to find anything about me. And they literally deleted everything about me.
00:21:47
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And obviously we know it's not deleted, it's still there, but they purged my entire existence, which isn't unique. I mean, numerous people have been purged off of Facebook and I got kicked off Instagram as well. So this is nothing new. Right. And so, I mean, you know, and you obviously, you knew it was coming. I mean, some people just, they know, I mean,
00:22:03
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that, look, I'm just going to say it. It's probably going to get me a ban, but who cares at this point? You've been on that end of things, the cancellation, that being deplatformed, but let's talk some solutions and hope because I know you just got back from a conference in Las Vegas aptly named the Replatform Conference.
00:22:24
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which is obviously the opposite of D platform. And I would like to hear about your experience there and what some of your takeaways were and maybe some reasons for hope and optimism in that space. Definitely. So a lot of hope and optimism. I believe that with every action, there is a reaction and I've known this obviously for a very long time. So when I saw the totalitarian tyranny coming down through the pipe with COVID, I knew it was going to cause an equal and opposite reaction.
00:22:54
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So just as we were seeing dominant forces come in and try to control our lives, we were seeing resistance that was equal and opposite at the same time. So we had a lot of pissed off people who were, you know, diehard libertarians that were Christians that were, you know,
00:23:10
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every denomination you could possibly think of, every faith you could possibly think of, who said, I'm not okay with you trying to mandate and force anything on me, let alone that which I completely disagree with fundamentally, religiously, whatever, for whatever reason. There's a lot of engineers and technologists and geeks like myself who saw what was coming down the pipe. And what's interesting is if you recall the
00:23:34
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the advent of the internet. It was a bastion of free speech. People sharing information from all walks of life. It was about openness. It was about open source. It was about everyone collaborating and working with each other. We had this new tool that allowed us to do all these things. And then we slowly saw the internet shift into this centralized Borg, as I've called it, where they're just collecting and mining everything and trying to control everything.
00:24:01
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we're seeing a shift back occur right now. So what has happened is it's forced a lot of people such as myself to fundamentally say, okay, if we want to exist online,
00:24:11
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despite the fact that they're trying to more and more create this digital ID system such that you can't exist online without verifying who you are with their verification codes, right? There are more and more people saying, well, we need to find workarounds and ways around that. And so that has been happening in spades over the last five, six years.
Building a Liberty Foundation
00:24:36
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for sure. So all I'm doing these days and all I'm working on these days, first and foremost, I wanted to make sure that we had data center companies and providers that were owned and operated by people who were also willing to fight to the death to defend our liberties.
00:24:54
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and freedoms because that's key because you can build all kinds of cool applications and all these nifty things software. But if that software is living on hardware and or in data centers that's owned by people who can just turn you off.
00:25:08
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then it's pointless, right? It renders it useless. So the core piece of this foundation is the dirt that these data centers sit on, which is all real estate, all these data center companies and hosting companies are really real estate companies when you dig in. These real estate companies need to be owned and operated by people on the same team.
00:25:26
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the facilities themselves, the hardware needed to be owned and operated by people on the same team. Same thing with the network, same thing with all the different security technologies and how you get data from point A to point B. So I spent many years of my life focused on that layer. And once I knew that that layer was sound and that we had good people in the right places taking care of that, we moved to the next. So to that, you were asking about solutions. There's companies like American Cloud,
00:25:52
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right now, which is americancloud.com. They're basically your Amazon Web Services alternative. So if you're a startup or you're a company that's looking to just build new things quickly, they have the tools, they have the resources for you to do that. If you're looking for web development and or like a GoDaddy alternative, there's a company called Liberation Tech, liberationtek.com. There's a company called Patmos Hosting. These two companies are also owned by really good people working towards the same goals, trying to accomplish the same things.
00:26:21
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So that's from an infrastructure hosting web development side of things.
Challenges of Privacy Technology
00:26:26
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But the other major problem set that we all have to address, I'm trying to find my phone, is these devices, right? That everybody carries around in their pocket. So Haley, let me ask you a question. Are we at war right now? Yes. So we're at war right now, right? Yeah. And if we're at war, and I give you a weapon, and I say, just so you know,
00:26:48
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There's a GPS tracking device on that weapon. There's a camera and a microphone. And all of the information, all that data is actually being fed to the enemy. Not even being fed to our own team, but being fed to the enemy so they know where you are, they know what you're seeing at any given time. And I'm not really even gonna train you on how to use this thing. I'm simply gonna say, yeah, if you pull that trigger, it'll fire, right? But I don't give you any more training other than that. Would you use that weapon? I might try, I don't know.
00:27:19
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It would make no sense to use that weapon because you're literally bringing a tool of the enemy onto the battlefield and then you'd have to question, oh, and they can turn it on and off at a whim, right? They control it, right?
00:27:32
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No one in their right mind would use that weapon, right? And yet that is exactly what these devices are. This is psychological warfare weapon 101 that everybody's walking around and using on a day-to-day basis. And I say that because he who owns the operating system of the device, whether it's your phone or it's your laptop or your desktop, controls that device.
00:27:59
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So if we're giving Microsoft and Google and Apple and Amazon access and control to the operating system of these devices,
00:28:10
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It's their device. We're paying for the privilege to use the enemy's weapon that we're using against her. We're literally blowing our digital heads off and those of the people around us on a regular basis, but we don't even realize it. So just like you have to have some kind of firearms training. If you're going to use a firearm, you don't just pick up a gun and go to war with it. You have to have some education and some training. These are weapons. These are tools, right?
00:28:37
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And when they are owned and controlled by the enemy, they become a weapon against us. And yet so few people even understand how these things work in the first place. They're oblivious. They don't fully even understand the damage that they're doing to themselves and to the people around them on a regular basis.
00:28:58
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Well, and I think, you know, this is obviously going into what you're doing with the mark three seven and, you know, your ghost phones and everything, your ghost computers. And, you know, I say I put myself out there as like an avatar because I'm your avatar for the person you need to probably convince or nudge to make the change because I know the problems like I get it. But I, you know, I consider myself like I'm.
00:29:24
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I'm not a tech person you know so like. To me you know there's a reason i don't adopt some of these. Measures it's just it's too like it in all honesty in a lot of cases it's too hard it's too complicated i like it they made it so convenient to.
00:29:41
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use these devices. And I know that's like a poor excuse. I hold my hands up. I get it. I understand all the problems, but, you know, like trying to make it user friendly for somebody like me who is not a tech person to be able to adopt these alternate for like, like, like I've tried to use a VPN before and I'm like, I just, I don't know how this works. I tried, you know, and I'm trying, you know, so like, I know I need to use a VPN. I know I need to do this. But in order to do that, like,
00:30:09
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Like, I think I'm just your normal person. Yes, your really tech savvy person probably has and will and is more inclined to make the switch, but then you're not trying to reach them necessarily, maybe. I mean, you are to an extent, you need people like me.
00:30:25
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Sure, so I'm trying to reach everybody, right? Yeah, right. And the benefit of my background and training is that I've been able to I'm a translator. Yeah, so I'm able to take complex financial stuff or executive stuff and bring it down to the engineers to help them understand what they need to do. And then
00:30:42
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saying vice versa, taking all that information, bring it up. And I spend pretty much all day every day right now conversing with boomers in their sixties and seventies because most of these people are fired up. They're ready to make the switch. They're ready to make the move and coaching them through and walking them through what they can do to make the move. But you hit on the key word, which is convenience.
00:31:01
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Well, I don't want to make the move because I think it's going to be too complicated. And everything is just so convenient for me right now. So at some point, that line in the sand has to be crossed. And I would say it was crossed a long time ago. And the more people started learning about just how much influence and how much access these companies have and these three letter agencies have to your life through these devices, you'd say,
00:31:26
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You're right. The line has been crossed,
Training and Community Support
00:31:28
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right? It'd be no different than waking up and realizing that the vast majority of the food you buy at the grocery store is literally poison, right? Which it is, right? So at some point people have to say, well, maybe I should start sourcing my food from companies that are not trying to kill me, right? Or not trying to poison me. Growing my own food.
00:31:46
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But that's a journey, right? It's a process. It's not just buy a raised bed and all of a sudden you're fine, right? It's not that easy. It's not that simple because you have to start learning new ways of doing things. Learning how to grow your own food is not an overnight process. It takes time. You have to find a community of people that will support you, have to figure out what's going to grow right in your area. What are the weather patterns? When should I plant this? When should I plant that? It's not easy, right? It's no different than
00:32:16
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people who dig into physical security, right? For a lot of people, it comes after they've been assaulted, where they finally say, I need to get trained on how to defend myself, right? I would say we've been digitally assaulted, and we're being digitally assaulted all day, every day, right? And once people say, okay, I'm going to take this seriously, I'm going to get training, but you don't just walk into a self defense class and say, I've got an hour, make me a pro.
00:32:42
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It takes time. It takes education. It takes training. So we have a lot of training, a lot of tools, articles, videos. We can point you at a bunch of different resources, but you have to commit, Haley. You have to say, okay, wine's been drawn. I'm gonna commit. I'm gonna make the switch. I'm gonna start making the switch. And then you simply start the journey. It's not an overnight thing. For those who are more technically inclined, things may go a lot faster and progress a lot faster.
00:33:12
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But even if you're not technically inclined, you'll start to realize that all you're really doing, you can still use all the same apps. You can still do nearly everything that it is that you do today. You're just going to be using it on a device that you own, that you control. So if you want to download Facebook, you can download Facebook.
00:33:33
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But when Facebook starts saying, I want access to your contacts, I want access to your GPS, I want access to your wifi, I want access to this, you will get a notification that it's not just once you download, you click yes to the user terms of service, then all of a sudden it gets all this access, which is what happens today.
00:33:50
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It's you simply saying, okay, I do want to provide access. I want to provide access to this, that, and the other. But part of the training and education process is really walking people through the reality. Do I need to have that application downloaded onto my device? Does that app have to be on my device? Do I need that? Or can I access that application through a secure browser?
00:34:13
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And that browser then serves as a firewall, a virtual firewall between the application that you're using and your data, your device. So it's retraining and rethinking how we do things and how we use things. That's what's paramount and so key. So just like retraining ourselves on how we approach medicine and health and wellness, right? It's not much different. We used to think, oh, well, I just trust my doctor with everything.
00:34:40
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That's not so much the case anymore. So just as we used to think, well, I just trust Apple and Google and Microsoft. They'll take care of me. That's not so much the case anymore. So we have to retake and regain control of these things to learn how to be digitally sovereign and how to keep our data private. It's education. It's process. So we have tools.
00:35:02
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laptops that are running open source Linux, which is really anyone can learn how to download Linux onto their own device. You can totally do that, but most people don't have the time energy. They don't have the acumen to figure that stuff out. So if that's the case, then they can come to us. We can coach them through that process or they can simply buy devices that are already preloaded with Linux on it. Same thing with the phones. We can train you and coach you on how to download an open source operating system on your devices.
00:35:28
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and coach you through which applications. We have it all on our website on how to do all this stuff on your own, by yourself. Or you can simply buy one from us and join our community of other people who are worried about and concerned about digital sovereignty and privacy and are helping each other through this journey.
00:35:46
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I want to read, I had a little conversation on Twitter yesterday and another person in our community who's knows like, you know, what's up basically, but he made a tweet and he goes, the amount of subterfuge it takes to protect your identity online is truly staggering. If you're not registering a VPN under a fake name with a backstop legend, the NSA can track your every keystroke. And, you know, I feel like when you're dealing with that level of like, my gosh, I have to just like,
00:36:15
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I just can't get to that level." And so we had a little bit of a back and forth. And he goes, 10 years ago, I worked with a former NSA guy. He told me over drinks if anybody fucked with him, he'd just rob a bank for them, pull up outside his house, remote jump his device, transfer $20,000, and then drive away. And he goes, and they'd get 20 years in prison on computer forensics alone.
00:36:35
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So I said, actually, I'm talking to a guy tomorrow that's going to talk, we're going to talk about this very type of problem. I said, well, is there a question in there you want me to ask? He goes, well, home Wi-Fi is a weak point in most people's personal security from what I understand. What are the best practices besides just having a really good password for stopping people for framing you via your IP address?
00:36:56
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So this is, again, it's all above, and again, I use myself as an avatar. This is all above my pay grade, so to speak. I understand it from like, I get it, why this is a problem. But for me to implement the solution, that seems really complicated.
00:37:13
Speaker
Again, digital privacy and security is no different than physical privacy and security. You can go down some major deep rabbit holes. I can become a Krav Maga master. I can become a three-gun martial arts specialist. I can become super adept at using language and words to make
00:37:33
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manipulate people to get them to do what I, you know, almost like Jedi mind trick type of stuff, right? I can do all kinds, I could live in a bunker underground with turret gunners outside and special forces, you know, protecting me. If someone really wants to find me and kill me, there's enough means and motive, then they're going to, right? They're going to find a way to fly a fighter jet overhead and drop a bomb on my head, right? No matter how deep underground I am. So you really have to ask yourself, what are my threat levels?
00:38:03
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and what are those vectors? What are the different things that I'm using on a day-to-day basis and the applications that I'm using and my connection points? And then you start securing those different connection points. My dad, for example, who really only uses the internet to do some research and to talk to his grandkids,
00:38:22
Speaker
is a different type of threat vector than myself, who's traveling all the time, constantly connecting to different things, different people. Clearly there are people who don't want me having the conversation that we're having right now, right? Trying to educate people on this topic. So I have a different threat vector than my dad.
00:38:42
Speaker
Is he going to go become a Krav Maga master? No, right? He doesn't need to. Would someone like me probably want to go through that type of training? Yeah, you betcha, right? I'm going to want to know how to be handy in those circumstances in case someone comes after me.
00:38:58
Speaker
So first of all, we have to take that and understand that, right? It's not just I show up to a place, I buy something, I plug it in, and I'm good, right? You have to understand what it is that you've just done and why, right?
00:39:13
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You don't just, again, it's no different than you don't just plant a seed in the ground, walk away, and you can feed yourself, right? That's not how the world works. This whole concept around convenience is what led us to believe that, well, just give me something that I can just buy and then I'll be good, right? I'll be fine. I don't have to think about it. Like for me, that's leading down the path of idiocracy.
00:39:38
Speaker
Right? All we're doing then is training people to not think critically, to not understand what's going on in the world around them. We have to flip this paradigm on its head. People have to become more aware of what the heck is going on and the tools that they're using in the process.
Journey to Digital Privacy
00:39:54
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So to that end,
00:39:56
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Is there a single device that you can buy and plug in and just be good? No, right? Because again, I can give you a weapon, right? I can give you a firearm that could kill anybody that might come around you. But if you don't know how to use that weapon in the proper context and scenarios, the odds of you killing yourself or it malfunctioning
00:40:16
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is extremely high, right? So we have a number of people who, like your friend, are, well, I'm former intelligence and I know for a fact that we can hack into anything at any given time and we've got backdoor access to this, this, that, and the other. I'm like, sure, man.
00:40:33
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Totally. And to those who garden outside, you know, you could tell them, well, there's no point in you gardening outside because they're just dropping chemtrails above you. And the water that you're probably using to, you know, water your plants is coming from the municipality, which is also full of poison. So you probably shouldn't do your own gardening, right? That's a waste of time, right?
00:40:53
Speaker
That's ridiculous logic, right? That's ridiculous thing. So we just have to think smarter and be smarter and get more educated. Using these types of tools makes it harder for people to try to steal your data, right? Not everybody is a threat to the NSA, is a threat to the CIA. And you might say, well, more and more we are a threat to these folks. Sure, but our job is to make it harder and harder for them to access and gain control of all of our information and all of our data.
00:41:23
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Right? We don't want to, you know, all of us have a profile that Google, Apple, Microsoft, LinkedIn, Facebook, you name it, and our three letter agencies have access to that says, this is Sean Patrick Tarrio. Here's all the data points we have about them. And the more data points they have about us, the more money they can make off of us because they're selling it over and over and over and over again, multiple times a day.
00:41:47
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But the less data they have on you, your stock kind of goes down, right? So we need to hit these companies at as many different levels as possible, making it harder and harder for them to track us and to know what we're doing and what we're doing and where we're doing, who we're doing it with, but also making it so that they make less money off of us on a day-to-day basis.
00:42:08
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You could take the black pill mentality of well, we're screwed because they can totally find and track us anytime, all the time. And it's just way too complicated for average Joe to figure this stuff out. Or you can say, look, this is a journey.
00:42:20
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I'm gonna start somewhere with either a laptop or a phone. I'm gonna figure this out. I'm gonna realize through that process, this is a lot easier than I thought it was. This stuff actually isn't that complicated. I've been told it's so complicated. I think for a reason that people have been told, don't worry about it, don't figure it out. Just take this stuff because it makes it so convenient that they don't have an idea of what the heck they're doing and it's easier for them to track you and spy on you if you're just a consumer
00:42:50
Speaker
So start somewhere, start the journey somewhere. And for those that try to blackmail you into thinking this is way too complicated, it's not even worth it. You know, I've got a lot to say to those people. And in fact, I have a whole article I wrote on that topic that's entitled, Can You Really Go Ghost? And you can find it at mark37.com. Go to our blog section. It's one of the top articles that I wrote.
00:43:13
Speaker
Yeah, and be sure to send that to me too. And I'll put it in the show notes page. I always have a show notes page, libertyalliancenetwork.com slash what can we do. You can always look up all the show notes and I'll have any of those. I'll have all your resources and websites listed on there. Yeah. And you actually, I could tell you're fired up about this, you know, you're getting, getting used to these, these objections, I guess, you know, and you've, cause you've heard them and you're, you know, at some point you get, you just get frustrated with them. You're like, oh my gosh, that's such a lazy objection or something, you know, but they, you know, they're real nonetheless.
00:43:43
Speaker
They totally are real. They totally are real. And I get them every day, all day. But the frustrating thing for me, Haley, is when I'm talking to those who are truly on the front lines of this war. Because I asked God, I said, God, you need to put me on the front lines of this war so that I can provide this education and this knowledge and these tools to the people who are fighting on the front lines.
00:44:01
Speaker
And what drives me insane is when I am talking to the generals and the admirals and the people, special forces folks who I consider in the war we are right now, not necessarily in the military side, but on the cultural war. When I have this conversation with them, they're like, I don't have the time. I don't have the effort. They're already tracking me anyway. So what's the purpose? Blah, blah, blah. They have this defeatist mentality. And yet they still wonder why it is that they're not making more progress and how it is that the enemy knows where they're going to be before they're going to be there.
00:44:32
Speaker
This is so, you literally are giving them access to all of your comms, all of them. So why? Like you can take some simple, simple steps to pull that out of the world and or make it more difficult for them so that they have to spend more resources and more time to figure out where you are and what you're doing. Why would you not want to do that? This is so,
00:44:56
Speaker
simple. You just have to spend a little bit of time. And when there's someone like me, and I'm one of dozens of people right now across the country that are helping people with these types of migrations, I can have someone come to you and spend an hour or two with you and coach you through how to do this, especially if you're on the front lines. So for anyone who's listening, if you're on the front lines of this war right now, please reach out to me. I want to help you and give you the tools that you need to be successful. And if you have a group of people that's meeting on a regular basis a month, every month or every two weeks,
00:45:25
Speaker
I also would love to come and provide education and training. I travel the country right now meeting with these organizations and these groups, providing this level of education. I spend the first hour and a half, I'm kind of doing a condensed version of this with you, but the first hour and a half talking about, here's all the different ways we're getting screwed so that you can then explain it to your friends and your neighbors and your peers. And then the second half is, and here's all the different things that we can do to get ourselves out of that system.
00:45:52
Speaker
I definitely have some places I can point you. Maybe after we're done with this conversation, we can talk about that a little bit. I've got some groups in mind. This is all making a little bit more sense because on your website, mark37.com, you mentioned that you basically term yourself like we're a geek squad for all things sovereign tech. I was like, what does that mean, geek squad? Now I'm getting it because it sounds like the geek squad is on call
00:46:17
Speaker
and they can help you with all your tech issues. And what you're doing here is because there is a learning curve associated with using these new devices and getting unplugged from the matrix, so to speak. And you can handhold people, whether individually or with a group to kind of get them through that, get them over the hump, educate them, train them in the way that they need to be trained in order to basically, well, like I said, unplug from the matrix, like almost literally.
00:46:44
Speaker
100%. That is exactly, that is exactly it. So for us, like there may come a time where someone comes out with a new device, right? A new operating system, a new tool in the war, right? That is better suited for what we're trying to accomplish. I'm not in the business of selling devices. I am now because there's no one else out there that's doing this. So I said, no one else is going to do it. We have to do it, right? My job is to educate and migrate
00:47:09
Speaker
individuals, companies and organizations off of big tech platforms and coach them and handle them through that
Beyond Tech: Sovereign Lifestyle
00:47:15
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process. So that's where we're building ourselves because we are basically a geek squad for sovereign tech. So we want to help people understand what that tech is. And it's different for everybody. There's no one size fits all solution.
00:47:27
Speaker
Right? So people say, well, just point me, you know, I need a new email provider. So what, what is that going to be for me? And I'm like, well, you have options. There's different options that are available. Do you use your contacts? Do you share a calendar? Do you want a place to store your files as well? Because there's an option for that. But if all you want is an email, that's it.
00:47:46
Speaker
That's all you need is an email, a new email address. That's a different option. That's a different service. It's a little bit less expensive, right? So there's different options, different tools that are available for each individual. And our job is to get to know the person, understand what's important to them, what they're trying to accomplish, and then we can direct the right resources and tools to them.
00:48:03
Speaker
Well, and also what you're doing at Mark37, and you've kind of mentioned, I think a few of the companies previously, is you're making kind of a hub for all sorts of alternate solutions for people to, again, I guess to use a similar term, escape the matrix. So tell me a little bit more about the other things you got going on at Mark37.
00:48:26
Speaker
Yeah, so the other things I've kind of taken a back burner because it's basically time and money. We only have so many resources. I basically self-funded this whole project and this company. I have a handful of partners, but really, I put my own blood, sweat, and tears into this. And that's a long story, stepped away from a very lucrative career doing all the stuff I was doing to just focus on this. But I'm scratching my own itch at the end of the day and scratching the itch of those who want to live a sovereign lifestyle. So I'm looking for autonomous energy and water production systems.
00:48:56
Speaker
from a homesteading perspective and helping people also find access to heirloom seeds and all the different cool things that they would need in that domain for homesteading, from a homesteading perspective, because I homestead, we've got raised beds and chickens and a garden and all this stuff. Love doing it. Would rather be spending my time outside of my garden on my property
00:49:17
Speaker
then, you know, all the tech stuff that I do on a day-to-day basis, but this is what I'm called to do. And then the other piece of it is health and wellness. So, you know, I have other people on my team who are just as well-versed on the health and wellness side and can go on the exact, have basically the same conversation that we're having today about tech about health and wellness, right? And starting to realize that all things are energy,
00:49:39
Speaker
and that when we eat certain foods or we have certain essential oils and we put those into our body, that those heal certain parts of our body. Well, why is that? Well, what you've just eaten has a frequency and that frequency is the same frequency as a healthy heart or a healthy skin or whatever it is. And that essential oil that you've just taken that also helps with the heart or the skin has that same frequency. So when we realize that all things are frequency,
00:50:08
Speaker
and that frequencies are what's healing ourselves and are healing our bodies, then that's where the mind expansion goes and you're like, holy smokes, this is crazy. So there are devices that are out there that literally you can just put almost like this that you can put next to you that will just emit healing frequencies.
00:50:25
Speaker
And I don't know if you've heard of some of the healing frequency and there's music and there's all kinds of stuff that's now coming out where people are rediscovering and relearning this knowledge that has been around for ages that has been suppressed over the last couple hundred years because they're trying to create a population that is stupid, uneducated, uninformed, unhealthy, all these different things because they're easier to control. So for me, again, that's scratching my own itch through my own life journey.
00:50:54
Speaker
and the different health issues that I've had and my family's had, trying to find these solutions and bring them to people. And the key there, and I just want to touch on this one key piece, because no matter whether it's health and wellness or it's homesteading or it's technology, we've been trained since we were young and in school.
00:51:11
Speaker
that if you have a new idea and a new product and a new technology, that you need to guard it, right? You need to get the intellectual property around it and you need to safe keep it because you can maximize the money potential, maximize the return by controlling this idea, right? But when you start to rethink and realize we are simply stewards
00:51:31
Speaker
of divine intervention and divine ideas. Nothing that I think of is really truly unique to me. It's all inspired by God, right? Whatever your God is, it's inspired by the other. It's inspired by the infinite. It's inspired by something bigger than myself. When you understand that, you start to realize, well heck, if that's the case, I don't want to control some life-saving transformational idea.
Spiritual Battle and Awareness
00:51:57
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I want to push it out to the masses.
00:52:00
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So that's what I love about open source technologies and tools and mindset is if I came up with a carburetor that would allow a car to go 150 miles a gallon, am I going to instantly apply for a patent and try to control this thing? Heck no. I'm going to take that and I'm going to push it out to as many people as I possibly can and share that information with as many people as I possibly can. I'm going to probably try to figure out how to manufacture it.
00:52:28
Speaker
and people could still buy it from me. And the people who are trying to make these things can still come to me and learn from me and buy education and training for me and how to make these things and use these things. But I want to push this out to the masses. And that's where, unfortunately, so many great companies, great ideas and great technologies have disappeared.
00:52:48
Speaker
because people have a great idea for something, zero point energy, you know, Tesla technology to create zero point energy where we don't need to be connected to the power grid or home water, uh, production systems in their approach. And they say, Hey, uh, we'll give you $150 million for that idea. You can buy your own Island. You can become a hedonist, you know, do whatever you want. You've won the lottery, right?
00:53:09
Speaker
Go go be happy walk away and people say okay and the people who say nope I'm not interested in that I want to do my own thing with this they say okay best of luck and then sure enough that person dies and up from a heart attack or a car crash or you name it you know weeks later or months later they just disappear right it's because people have this idea and mentality that they need to be that bottleneck to control the wealth but when you realize that money as we said in the very beginning of the show is just energy and
00:53:38
Speaker
and that energy exists in many forms, I would rather have the energy put out and manifest that is me sharing this knowledge across as many people as possible than having the energy return of just the dollar. Because my God is not manna. I have a much different God. So for me, I want to push this knowledge and this energy out to as many people as possible. And I think if we truly reframe how we think and operate in the world,
00:54:06
Speaker
to that mentality, that's when we're going to see some major shift happen. And this great awakening that people are talking about, that's when that great awakening starts to take shape. When we stop framing how we live our lives through the context and verbiage of those who want to control and enslave us, and we start reframing it in the context of being stewards of the resources that we are beholden to.
00:54:32
Speaker
I've talked to a lot of people and have been talking to a lot of truth tellers and freedom fighters. What I'm noticing, and this is certainly not a coincidence, is the most people who I think are awake now or who are doing the most to fight back,
00:54:48
Speaker
For the most part at least what I've noticed I think have been of Christian faith and I think it's because you know it seems to me like look what happened with covid and all the lockdowns and etc etc and all the madness we've been seeing lately with the pronouns and I'm like look there's no
00:55:07
Speaker
To me, there's no rational or logical argument to what they're doing. To me, this is a spiritual battle. Because otherwise, once you throw out logic and reason and ration, what's left? Because it doesn't make any sense on any of those levels.
00:55:22
Speaker
It only makes sense on a spiritual level, like this is a literal good versus evil battle. So how do you see this and how do you see, you know, your spirituality, the spirit, you know, the spiritual war that we're fighting and your faith playing into this?
00:55:37
Speaker
Yeah, so I would say 100%. And that was one of the common denominator threads and themes as I was learning way back in the day in my 20s, who really controlled and operated and ran the world, right? You start looking at some of these esoteric groups and what their theology is, right? And it's truly that they believe that Lucifer
00:55:57
Speaker
Is god right so he's the god of the world god of the earth right and if you want to be successful on this planet on this world you have to obey lucifer right this is for me a very short-sighted understanding of how things operate in the world because if you're only looking for that short-term gratification
00:56:16
Speaker
While you are here on Earth, you're missing out on the exponential infinite that is to come, right? But if you don't believe in the infinite, then it's very easy to be persuaded that this right here right now is the only thing that matters. So as you start digging down that and you start reading some of the books that some of these folks have written, it gets very dark and very crazy. Albert Pike is one of them. Read him when I was in my early, early 20s.
00:56:44
Speaker
started sharing it with as many people as possible. And if you haven't heard of Albert Pike, he was a Freemason of 33rd degree plus, and he helped found lots of different esoteric groups and whatnot. But these people believe that they are gods on earth. So because of the wealth that they have and the power that they've generated on earth, they can make and manifest whatever their dreams desire on this planet. So with that understanding,
00:57:10
Speaker
they have a ends justify the means perspective. And that ethos and that theology is leads to where we are today where murder, rape, lying, killing, lot, you know, the just clown world logic that we see today is manifest of that, right?
00:57:31
Speaker
So I've known that we're up against, not just globalists, we're up against a, literally, it's a Luciferian death cult. And I encourage people to look into that. What is the Luciferian death cult? And people say, Terrio, that's conspiracy theory years ago. That's crazy talk. They don't do any of this stuff. Andrenachrome, looking up these things, you're crazy, Sean, you're insane, there's no way. Now people are like, yep, that's real. They even talk about it, they're actually,
00:58:00
Speaker
have celebrities out talking about, you know, taking in adrenochrome and using adrenochrome. And oh, wow, there's all these references to it in books and movies and TV shows and all this stuff. So people starting to wake up the holy crap. This stuff is real. They're putting it in front of your face. I mean, you watch the music videos and it's literally a black mass ritual.
00:58:19
Speaker
that they're putting out in front of your face. So you can't deny these things. You can't ignore these things anyway. So hands down, this is a fight between good and evil. And for me, I mentioned that I stepped away from a very lucrative career.
00:58:31
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And every time I kept trying to go back, because I was like, my God, I've got a family, I've got a mortgage, I've got this, I've got that, he would slap me upside the head and force a very real conversation where I had to sit down with my Lord and Savior. And he would say, Sean, you knew exactly what your mission was. I made it explicitly clear what you needed to be doing while you were here on this planet.
00:58:52
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And you didn't want to accomplish that why? Because you were afraid? Because you thought that you needed some carnal things on this planet? When you have me on your team? When I'm the one that bestowed this knowledge to you and told you and pointed you in that direction? I am the Lord of Lords, your King of Kings. So you say, I move mountains, I raise the dead. You have me, the infinite on your team. And you're telling me you couldn't accomplish this why again?
00:59:19
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depart from me, I don't know you. That is not the conversation I want to be having. So I encourage Christians who are listening, who are out there right now, you have to take this battle seriously. I look to the lives of the saints and the apostles. They didn't live very comfy lives. They were murdered, had their heads chopped off. They were killed in gruesome, gruesome ways, right?
00:59:43
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for the greater glory of God, right? So I'm not on this planet to just try to sit back comfy and try to gain as much wealth as possible so I can go live on a resort somewhere and not have to worry about things. I'm very worried and I'm on the front lines putting it out there spreading truth and love because that's what we're called to do. And if you're not uncomfortable right now, if you're not on the front lines right now, you're not getting pushback,
01:00:07
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You're not doing something right. I mean, it's pretty simple. You're not doing something right. And you will likely end up having that conversation with your God when he says, you knew exactly what my word was to you is to follow me in a spread truth and love and live without fear. And yet you lived a life full of fear. I did not know you. And people say, Oh, well, I accept Lord, you know, my Lord Jesus Christ. You know, I'm like, do you, do you put that into action on a day to day basis?
01:00:34
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And how do you put that into an action on a day-to-day basis? And literally if God was sitting next to you right now,
01:00:41
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Do you think you'd be able to have a conversation to justify your behavior? Most people, when they're put on the spot, because this is a hard conversation for people to have, they don't want to have this conversation, which is why the majority of churches right now are, they don't talk about it. They just want people to be happy. Let's just all sing and dance together and all get along. I'm sorry, folks. That's not the world we're living in right now. We are at war. We need to start acting like it.
01:01:06
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Amen, brother, amen. Yeah, and you know, just a couple last questions or thoughts, but you know, going back to that, how I said like, look, most of the people that I see fighting the hardest are people of faith. However, on the flip side of that is I see lots of people of faith, they're self-professed Christians.
Complacency vs. Action
01:01:24
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And I think it's maybe a little bit of projection, but like,
01:01:27
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I really think that people can't fathom the depths of evil that we are facing because I'm a good person and you kind of think most other people are fundamentally good. And so it's only just a few select random supervillains. But I don't think that they see how deep this goes and actually how common evil is. And if you think about sex trafficking and human trafficking and everything,
01:01:54
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Like, that's, I mean, disgustingly prevalent. So, like, it is all around us. We are surrounded by it. We are, you know, drowning in it. And yet people, I think that, like, Christians can have that, like, gullible naivete about them as well, where they really don't understand, you know, hey, my God is so big. Well, you only need a big God to fight big, big evils.
01:02:16
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And there's a lot of big evil in this world. And I think that they either don't recognize it or they refuse to see it because it seems so big. You know, when you understand how big this is, I mean, I mean, it is literally a global cabal of evil Satanists that are trying to rule the world. And so many of them just don't understand that it's too big. Yeah. I mean, amen.
01:02:37
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Yes. And people don't want to get uncomfortable. Yeah, right. So it's, it's, there's a saying that is so accurate, which is hard times are created by good, by comfortable people. Comfortable people create really hard times, right? Hard times then create strong people.
01:02:58
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strong people create good times and it begets this cycle, right? So we're in a cycle where we've been living in this comfortable, you know, illusion of security and wealth and abundance, right? That's created very, very weak
01:03:13
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minded people. And we have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. That is what created this nation is we had people who were literally waking up every day fighting for survival. And until I think people start operating from that MO, they're going to continue to say, not my problem. Someone also take care of it when that's part of the problem.
01:03:36
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So people just have to get comfortable being uncomfortable. And for them to think that, you know, have that naivete, as you said, that this stuff is really not happening, you know, that's more conspiracy theory than us presenting the facts of, in fact, this world is messed up and this world is being controlled by very evil people. So, you know,
01:03:57
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I'm truly not in the business these days and in the emo these days of trying to wake people up i've spent my whole life trying to wake people up and if the actions of our government and you know everyone around us over the last couple years hasn't woken you up yet.
01:04:14
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I don't know what will, but I can promise you that you having a conversation with me and me showing you a bunch of facts or movies or documentaries is not going to really wake you up. God is going to have to work in your life in a very direct, specific way that is personal to you for you to wake up. That's not my job to wake you up at this point. My job is to arm those who are on the front lines of the war that we're in
01:04:39
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who are already awake with the tools that they need to be successful. So they stop blowing their digital heads off day in and day out and those people around them. So with that message, I want to just encourage and inspire people. You have to take this war seriously. You have to be aware of everything going on around you. Yes, it's hard.
01:04:58
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Yes, it's difficult. Yes, it's overwhelming. Yes, I just want to break down in tears often and just lament and be like, oh my gosh, what is this world coming to? But I realize more than anything else, this world is but a test.
01:05:13
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This world is but a test. And when you understand all I am is being tested every day about am I going to go to bat and continue to preach truth and love and act in accordance with God's will, despite all the garbage going on me. So that God knows when I'm done with this carnal meat pocket that I live in right now, and my spirit goes to the other, that he knows I'm on his team.
Practical Steps and Resources
01:05:37
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That's how I would operate if I was king. I would want to make sure I would want to be testing my subjects to make sure that they're loyal, to make sure that they're on the same team. But when we're fighting for unconditional love, we're fighting for truth. Like those are such high frequency, amazing, powerful things to be fighting for. We're not fighting for death and destruction.
01:05:57
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We're not fighting for fear or evil, right? We're fighting for the light, for the good. That should motivate people. And when they're in those times of suffering and pain, like the saints and the apostles, who do you turn to? Do you just give up and say, Oh, I can't take this anymore? Or do you find your strength from a higher power? That's where we have to live. That's how we need to operate in this war that we're in right now.
01:06:22
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Yeah, I totally agree. A couple years ago, basically, I've been off Facebook for a few years once they started kicking people off and everything. Basically, I said, look, I'm not trying to wake the sheep anymore. I'm here to wake the other lions. That's what I appreciate that you're doing too. You've laid out a very convincing case for what you're doing. I think it's convincing because you're convicted.
01:06:47
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because you're convicted in your faith and because you're convicted in your mission and you are on a mission from God. And I'm delighted and grateful that you are out there speaking for us and that you do have the skills and knowledge to bring about the change that we so desperately need and that you're using it to be a force for good in this world. So I'm going to give you the last word. The name of the show is What Can We Do?
01:07:10
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I know we've talked about a lot of various things in this show about this and that, but looking at the world as we have today, the big problems facing it, problems big and small, what do you see? What can we do to fight back, to claw back some freedom? What do you think? I think we need to get comfortable getting uncomfortable. We have to relearn how to learn new things.
01:07:36
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view it as a discovery process and a journey, right? So we have to start taking these things seriously, whether it's growing your own food, conversing face to face with your neighbors, having actual conversations with your neighbors and the people in your community, trying to figure out where you're going to get your protein and your produce from. Start dabbling with bartering.
01:07:56
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You know, trading goods and services is not realizing that money, money is only one form of currency. There's many forms of currency. So we just need to start rethinking. And I would say if you want to go down and start that journey from a technology perspective, please for the love of PDU. And if you do just start simple, start with a phone, start with a laptop.
01:08:16
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Get it configured. Get some coaching and some training if you need it. Read some resources. Get it set up the way you need it. You can take your SIM card out of your existing phone and literally put it into the new device. And then that new device becomes the new home for all your text messages and your email. Any app you use today, you can use on these new devices. So you're not giving stuff up. But there are new tools, new apps that are more privacy-focused, security-focused, that are alternatives.
01:08:43
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that are not going to be stealing your data on a regular basis. So explore starting to use those, gradually start making that shift, start talking to your friends and family about it. I promise you are either already interested or going to be interested in this type of thing and start walking them through that process too. But we all have to start making those moves to get ourselves out of the matrix. Yeah. Sean, give me some links where people can find you, where people can follow you and what you're doing.
01:09:11
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Sure, so mark37.com, m-a-r-k-3-7.com is really where you can find us on the bottom of that page. You can find our Truth Social. We've got a GAB presence. We've got a Twitter presence right now.
01:09:23
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We're on Telegram. We have a fairly nice community on Telegram of people helping people who are on this journey. So you can find us on Telegram, all of those. Just look up Mark, m-a-r-k-3-7. We're on Rumble as well. We have a lot of training and tutorial videos on Rumble that you can find. And again, look up Mark, m-a-r-k-3-7. You can find it all up there.
01:09:44
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Perfect. And I'll have all this in the show notes page as well. Liberty Alliance Network dot com. Sean, I've thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Again, you are a presence. You are a presence and I can feel the light of God working through you. And I'm so glad that you are doing what you're doing and that you decided to join me on my show today. And I look forward to staying in touch and hopefully talking to you again soon. Thank you. Bless you. Thank you for the work that you're doing. Thanks.