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Episode 23 The 5 pillars of freedom
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Dan Cook returns to the show, this time to mix a little personal development in with some Constitution talk. They actually go hand-in-hand and Dan shows us the connection between personal development and how to apply that to making changes at a political level.
Dan recently gave a live seminar on The 5 Pillars of Freedom which are: health freedom, spiritual freedom, financial freedom, mental freedom, and political freedom. There's more to freedom than just the absence of tyranny and Dan discusses the other types of freedom we should be pursuing as well.
He also has a new 7-day mini course on the Constitution and Declaration of Independence. It's an overview of the nuts and bolts of the Constitution. It's simplified enough you can even complete it with your older kids!
Dan has been busy making lots of positive changes in his life since we last spoke and he was eager to share what he's been doing and what he's learned with fellow liberty lovers so they can apply it to their lives as well.
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Are you tired of spending your money with woke companies that hate your values? As good libertarians and free market capitalists, we all believe in the power of voting with your dollar. But where do you go when it seems like no matter where you turn, you're surrounded by woke companies or brands? What if I told you I found the solution?
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All right, welcome back to another episode of Liberty Alliance Networks.
Dan Cook and the Liberty Movement
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What can we do? I'm Hailey Heathman, and today I am glad to be joined again by Dan Cook. Dan was a guest of mine not too long ago, and we've already got more to talk about. So Dan has been involved in the Liberty Movement.
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since the Ron Paul presidential campaign of 2008. He was elected to the Continental Congress in 2009 as a Florida delegate, where he contributed to the writing of the Articles of Freedom. Dan has been instrumental in spearheading many successful liberty efforts down in Collier County, Florida, and we're going to hear more about that today. Dan, welcome back to the show.
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Hey, Liam, so glad to be here. How are you doing today? Yeah, good, good, good. I mean, it's not been that long. I think I only talked to you late last year. And I feel like you've already got like four new things that you're doing. And you reached out and said, hey, I want to talk about it. I'm like, yes, let's talk about it. So yeah, why don't you get us started?
Five Pillars of Freedom Seminar
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Tell me a little bit about what's been going on since the last time we talked.
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Yeah, so the last time we talked, I think we generally were talking about liberty and the political process, you know, why it's important for people to know about what the Constitution says, what's inside of it. But I've also been thinking about my own journey in this, I guess you could call it a quest for freedom.
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I put together a seminar just last week, and I titled it Five Pillars of Freedom. And so I'm taking this quest for freedom, and I've been so obsessed with political freedom since the Ron Paul days. And what I kind of realized is that I became almost like tunnel minded. And I was so obsessed with obtaining political freedom and, you know, resisting things like, you know, the Iraq War, I was resisting things like
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the Federal Reserve banking system, trying to resist things like the mask mandates and lockdowns and shutdowns, all this tyranny that's taking place. But I came across this quote from someone who said, what you resist persists. And that got me thinking about thinking, actually, kind of a philosophical perspective here. And so this concept of the five pillars of freedom
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contains five different avenues of how we obtain freedom. So while I've been focused solely on figuring out how to get political freedom, how to get out from underneath the thumb of big government, how to figure out what my rights are and how to assert them, I've also realized that I need to
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learn more and practice more things like spiritual freedom, financial freedom, health freedom, and mental freedom.
Health Freedom and Personal Transformation
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And that's a big one for me is the mental freedom because I think the
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the mindset that we have really dictates what we end up focusing on, which then dictates what we you know, what words we say and what actions we actually go about taking. And so I put on this seminar tried to tie all five of these pillars together. But just from my personal perspective, I realized that when my health wasn't in top shape, then I didn't have the energy to, you know,
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attend all of the different government meetings or I didn't have the energy to even make a good speech. I didn't have the energy to keep my mind focused on what I was supposed to be saying. So that's maybe an example of how the health freedom pillar lines up with political freedom.
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Yeah, and I think you can disclose whatever you want to disclose. But I know in some messages after our last conversation, you sort of imparted to me that you were physically feeling the worst you had maybe in your life. And I think since then, it looks like, and it seems like, things have turned around. So in whatever way you feel comfortable, can you share a little bit about what that looks like and your journey that you've been on?
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Yeah, that's, it's actually shocking to hear you say that I don't even remember that old self of mine that was feeling in a bad, you know, worst shape of my life. So really, it was right around Christmas time and somebody came into my life and she shared some wisdom and kind of was just like lighting a fire under my ass really to
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kind of like just motivate me to get back on track. And so I've done a lot of personal development work in the past. To around 2016, I became a full time single father, which was a very challenging time for me. And I was facing, you know, post traumatic stress and, you know, a degree of depression. I was smoking cigarettes, you know, had had a
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You know, there was addictions. I had a very bad mindset. I was blaming my ex-wife for things. I was blaming the government, blaming society for all of my woes. And I finally came to a realization that, you know what? I've got no one else to blame except myself. I got to start taking some responsibility. And so I started doing that in 2017 by watching this guy named Jim Rohn on YouTube.
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To make a long story short, I had maybe 30 minutes a day of personal time that I could choose what to do with. And rather than watching Netflix or watching sports on TV, I was watching Jim Rohn YouTube videos. And so it just started to shift my mindset. And fast forward to this past Christmas, this woman that came into my life
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basically kind of like got me back on that same track where I realized, all right, I've got to stop feeling sorry for myself. I need to like, you know, just get on track with my finances, with my health, with my mindset. And so I started to exercise, I started to smile a lot more. And I was just, I was just mindful of
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you know, what my state of mind was at all hours of the day. And so I've just been making change after change after change in my personal life from my diet to my exercising habits to, you know, my, my, I'm mindful of what words I'm using and what thoughts I'm thinking. And so I'm glad that it's apparent that I'm a totally different person now.
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Well, I noticed that I noticed the smiling. I know you have a nice bright smile. So I noticed that you are smiling a lot more. I mean, not that I knew you well before, you know, but just even in our limited interactions. I mean, you know, I noticed and I can feel your energy. It's definitely like more up.
The Role of Feedback in Personal Growth
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Again, not that it was bad before. I didn't know any different, but like I could just tell the change from even
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a short while ago when we last spoke. So this woman, was she somebody, was she a chance encounter? Is she somebody you already knew? Did she tough love you or was this like a jet? Because everybody kind of receives hints and wisdom in a different way. Some people need that tough love approach. I grew up in a tough love family and I tend to dish out tough love advice because of it maybe, but not everybody
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appreciates that or is receptive to that approach. So can you share with me a little bit about how she kind of sparked a be in your bonnet, so to speak? Yeah, you know, that term that you just used, you know, the tough love approach might be a good description, because, you know, she, she pointed out or she, I guess, noticed, you know, certain habits that that I was having, or maybe she noticed certain language that I would use that I would use that is more like scarcity,
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limiting verbiage that I would use. And so she would call me out on things and point things out to me. And I've learned from studying the book of Proverbs in the Bible that correction is one of the things that, for me, I love getting corrected. So when I got this feedback from her, I wasn't all but heard about it or taking it personal or upset about it.
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For the most part, maybe there's a couple instances here and there where I let myself feel like that, but I snap out of it real quickly because I realized how important it is to
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be able to be self countable. And, you know, if you don't get if you don't get corrected, then how are you going to change things in your life? So yeah, so you know, she just yeah, she she pointed things out and I accepted it and said, You know what, I'm just going to make changes. Yeah. You knew before like so she's kind of seen maybe you slide or she just kind of like, no, no, just an outside observer.
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Outside Observer, I basically, maybe we'll put it this way, that I opened up some space in my life for someone to come in and be a friend and our paths crossed. And she came into my life at the perfect time for me to receive her influence and
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And I'm sure God puts people in our lives when we need them. It's all on His timing. And He heard you, I think maybe saw you suffering and put the right person in your life at the right time. And so I think probably give some glory and credit to God for that. I love how and when He does that, especially the people that you don't expect.
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Yeah, 1000% on that note. And she actually would agree 1000% as well, because I would often, you know, be very, very thankful and appreciative. And she said, Dan, no, glory to God, he's the one who's working through me. And so 100%
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you know, God works in a serious way. And also too, kudos to you too for recognizing it, you know, so, you know, because sometimes when you do try and maybe, again, whether it's in the Christian way, or just as like, you know, a friend to another friend or a family member to another family, when you try and put somebody back on the right path,
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A lot of times more often than not, they are not receptive. And in fact, you become the target of their ire and anger and how dare you. And they take very, very usually they take offense. How dare you. And so, I mean, I really got, you know, got to give credit to you or anybody. I mean, it's a really hard thing to look in at yourself as opposed to blaming everybody else in and say, no, you're right. I need to.
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make these changes and step up because it's really, I feel like that's something that, you know, the world needs more of is just like a little bit of humility.
Conservatives and Personal Responsibility
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Again, that's a very Christian characteristic. I need some humility to be able to say, humble yourself and say, what do I need to do? It's so easy to blame, again, everybody else, the government and, you know, the liberals and the Democrats and everything. But, you know, really,
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like we've got to take control. And I guess that that's kind of been the message or traditionally has been the message of like the conservative party is we're supposed to be the party of personal responsibility. Um, but so few people are willing to walk that walk. And so I'm so delighted to hear that you are one of the few who are actually not just talking the talk, but walking the walk. All right. I appreciate that. Haley, you know, it was, it was helpful that,
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Boy, I guess seven years ago that I kind of like started to prime the pump in my mind to make these changes and accept some self responsibility. I remember a guy named Tom Bill. You had a show called the impact theory and he had a lot of, you know, um, well-educated guests who talk about a host of different things that really expanded your mind. And one thing that he would say, I think he had it on a t-shirt that says, everything is my fault. And,
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I remember when I saw that t-shirt, I really embraced that mentality that at the end of the day, everything is my fault, meaning I'm going to be responsible for making changes in my life. And making maybe a comparison to what I've been talking about here, making these changes in my personal life.
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I think politically, too. And I'm glad that you just said that conservatives or the Republican Party conservatives are supposed to be about self-responsibility. That's what our country was founded on. The constitutional principles of individual freedom is supposed to be rooted in
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self-responsibility. You know, I don't want to be dependent on the government for health care or for money or for protection even for the most part. You know, we've got to take responsibility for our own lives. And we as individuals, we as I mean, we can maybe like
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put us into different classifications like conservative or republican but at the end of the day we are all individual human beings and we happen to live in america and be american citizens so i guess the point that i'm trying to make haley is that we as american citizens have got to take some self-responsibility about what's going on in our country because you know what it is our fault that
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things are falling apart. And one thing that I guess I want to get to, hopefully we could get to it here in this time that we have together, is where is our focus as Americans? Are we focused on the open borders? And are we focused obsessively on Joe Biden? Are we focused on how our tax money is being totally misused?
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which all of those things are true. But if we are always focused on that stuff, which I feel conservative radio is always focused on the problem. If we're going to be focused on that, are we allowing any time for us to talk about and focus on solutions? That's an excellent question. And I think it's a very
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I think true criticism of, they call it conservative ink, con ink. Some people shorten it to con ink because, you know, you get a lot of these conservative pundits, you know, the Charlie Kirks and the Jack Posobics and Dan Bongino's and everything. And they have these radio shows and they talk a whole, I mean, they, they can
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elucidate the problems all day long. But, you know, you've got, when you've got to listen, you know, to me, I'm like, when you've got a listenership in the millions combined, I mean, like, why aren't you guys teaming up to form solutions? And I think that they spend a lot, and as far as, you know, we know, as far as I can see, like, their solutions amount to vote harder, Trump 2024, and that's about it. They don't really give you any, oh, and by my pillow,
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Get yourself a MyPillow and then we're going to be good. I get really frustrated with those pundits who are making really a lot of money. They've got a huge audience and I feel like they're squandering it because it's one thing to, of course, you need to educate about the problems, but if you're not also,
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educating or elucidating or offering up any like viable solutions and really what are you doing besides just engaging the outrage farm, you know, kind of where you just keep the outrage machine going. Okay, great. Well, we're all pissed off. We're all angry, you know, rah, you know, rah, but like, where are we going to direct that to? And if you're not helping people direct that anger to a productive solution, then really you're, I mean, I don't want to say part of the problem, but you're not helping.
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Yeah, you kind of took the words right out of my mouth. I was about to say you are kind of part of the problem. Because yeah, if we're obsessed with the problems, like I said earlier, where's the space to focus on the solutions and especially these people who have these platforms, they have this influence where they can, they're reaching the people who are justifiably upset about these things. And these are the people who
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care about their liberties, who care about our country and want to take the actions.
Educating on Liberty Principles
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But maybe there's just so few leaders who are stepping up and offering a path or offering the solution. And so that's why I'm going to do a little plug here.
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The only thing that I'm pushing, I'm not pushing pillows or like viewerships for for my podcast or anything. But I put together the seven part online constitution course, which is only 799. You could get it at part time, Patriot project info. But all jokes aside, Haley, I put this course together because I've been obsessed with freedom since the Ron Paul days. And it actually did.
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It actually dates back to the Alex Jones days of 9-11 and even the Ralph Nader days of 2000. So I've been obsessed with freedom and liberty my entire life. I think it's actually literally in my DNA. I don't know if you see in the background, I've got my family tree up there. I'm a descendant of Francis Cook who came over on the Mayflower and signed the Mayflower Compact.
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I guess let me tie this into solutions here because understanding America's foundational documents, I think might be the first step for the American people to shift our thinking from Joe Biden problem, problem, problem to, all right, let me get a better understanding of, you know, the principles of liberty that we have, you know, individual freedom, limited
00:20:51
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government limited government limited government and Having an understanding I guess of things like the Mayflower compact to start off There's two main principles that that document established it was written by the pilgrims when they were on the ship of the Mayflower they were waiting to land they thought they were going to land in Virginia, but there's there's something going on with the weather and they had to like turn around and
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sail up north they ended up landing in Cape Cod on Plymouth Rock and so while they were in the cabin of the Mayflower they wrote up this document which was basically a compact with one another saying that
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we are going to bring Christianity to our new colony here and we are also going to form a small government and we're going to consent to whatever ordinances and constitutions and laws that our small little colony creates. So the two main principles that the Mayflower Compact established were
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really freedom of religion and bringing Christianity to North America and the principle of government by consent.
00:22:06
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And so this idea of government by consent is totally still relevant today. I was going to ask that. You preempted my question, you know, like a little bit of a devil's advocate. Is this still relevant? And of course, I know on one side, you know, like the liberals and the leftists and especially your young progressive, I mean, they as far as they're concerned, the Constitution is dead. It's a white man's relic.
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you know, yada yada yada, we don't care about the Constitution, it was written by slaveholders, etc. Of course, the conservative, we pay lip service to, you know, the Constitution, but the reality is we barely adhere to it, maybe about 5% more than the Democrats do, but it's still very little. So what is the place and the role of the Constitution today when it seems like
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I mean, nobody really doesn't seem like anybody takes it seriously anymore, you know, especially not are at least not the people in Congress. I think that's partly because of a misunderstanding of what the document is, or maybe the purpose of the document. As you just said, maybe, maybe some people look at it as a, he said, like a white man's relic or is written by slaveholders so many years ago. Well, that's a really narrow minded view of what the Constitution is. And
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Why they think like that, I couldn't tell you, maybe it's just our society in general, maybe it's the education system, maybe it's their, you know,
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I think I think we have a disconnect as Americans about what the purpose of that document is. And I figured I actually made a note of this just very recently, because I heard somebody use the term constitutional rights. And I think digging deeper into that term can really can really, I guess, like explain
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why we have this misunderstanding of what the purpose of the Constitution is. So I have a big problem when I hear people say constitutional rights. So why is that? Well, it's because that infers that our rights come from the Constitution, and that's incorrect. So if you go back and look at the Declaration of Independence, which was written in 1776, that established a few more principles of liberty as well. It established
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the point that our rights are natural rights granted to us by our creator.
00:26:58
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Not from the government. So that's the first main point about the declaration. Dan, you're sounding awfully like a Christian nationalist right now. According to the pundits at MSNBC, only Christian nationalists believe that our rights come from God and not from government. That's a crazy theory that you've got there. So I'm just warning you, you're sounding very much like a Christian nationalist. Well, good.
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I'm in company because i'm a radical like patrick henry and thomas jefferson and george washington were that's right So so these principles that are founding documents established, you know Understanding what these principles are is where I think that our you know These talk show hosts and these leaders in the conservative movement need to be focusing on the fact that yes We don't have constitutional rights. We have god-given
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constitutionally protected rights. And so the purpose of all these documents is so important, right? So the purpose of the Declaration of Independence, it established and declared that our rights come from our Creator.
Constitutional Rights and Government Power
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And for those who have such a big problem with God, you could also just call it natural rights. They're inherent rights that every human being has, whether you believe in God or not,
00:28:18
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It then establishes what those rights are. It says, among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
00:28:35
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That line right there has so much inside of it. It says that the purpose of government is to secure our rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It says that government derives its powers from the consent of the governed. So remember, we the people have the power. We are the sovereigns in this equation. So we grant government certain powers through our constitution. And so
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Instead of using the term constitutional rights, I use the term God-given, constitutionally protected rights. And the point that I want all of your listeners and all Americans to really know is that the purpose of the Constitution is to limit the powers that we the people give to the government. Are you familiar with Spooner, Lysander Spooner?
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I've heard the name and I've had a number of friends speak well about him. Yeah. I'm not familiar with his work. Well, I haven't read any of his works per se, like the long form works, but let's just, I know the
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nuts and bolts. So he came into prominence I think maybe during the 1800s and he's got a very storied history and involved a lot of things. But one of his things that he's most famous for is he wrote a book or a pamphlet or something called The Constitution of No Authority.
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And so one of the famous quotes or maybe the takeaway quote from that book and that pamphlet is that the Constitution and I'm paraphrasing kind of the quote so this isn't verbatim but the Constitution be it one thing or another has either authorized the government that we have or has been powerless to prevent it. So what's your thought on that?
00:30:23
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That's a very profound statement, and if I was alive during the time of ratification of the Constitution, I probably would have been against it, and I probably would have been among the anti-Federalists, because I do think that the Constitution does give the federal government way too many powers.
00:30:42
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and that it's weak in preventing the government from abusing its powers. But I'm going to play devil's advocate here just for a moment because based on just my research and study of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, I think that there are enough
00:31:03
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They call them provisions, but there's enough inside of both of those documents where if we the people had a better understanding of These different provisions and knew how to use them and if we could all together in mass Take certain actions. I think we would be able to do a better job of limiting the government So I guess let me give you some examples there so the federal government right it's
00:31:33
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This it's not this big. It's like this big. I think it's gone well beyond it's what I call its scope of duties And I I don't know that many people who would argue against that point But i'm curious how many people know Okay, where in the constitution does it lay out? You know what that limitation is And so it's
00:31:59
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It's in Article 1, Section 8, and it's a long list. Actually, no, I take that back. It's a short list of 17 specific things that the federal government, that Congress, that we've given Congress the power to do. Now, obviously, they've taken
00:32:16
Speaker
You know, we gave them an inch and they took a mile. They take it. They've actually misinterpreted a clause in the very first line there in Article 1 Section 8 that talks about the Congress shall have the power to promote the general welfare of the country. And it then goes on to list those 17 specific things that Congress is allowed to do in order to promote the general welfare.
00:32:43
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But what big government politicians have done is they've taken that that they call it the general welfare clause and they stretched it to mean whatever they want. So they will say, oh, well, we are raising your taxes to pay for health care for everybody, because that's in the general welfare of the country, even though providing health care is not listed in those 17 specific powers.
00:33:11
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that are given to the Congress. And so that is how the big government has grown by the misuse of the General Welfare Clause. So how do we reel that back in? So I look at two different areas of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights where I think that we could reel it back in. So the first is in Article 6, and this is called the Supremacy Clause. It's Article 6
00:33:35
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Section 2 says that this Constitution and the laws of the United States made in pursuance thereof shall be the law of the land. So this is another clause, the Supremacy Clause that big government politicians and academics and whatnot have stretched beyond the Founders' intent of it.
00:33:57
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And they neglect to look at the, I would say, the three most powerful words in the entire Constitution, which are in pursuance thereof.
00:34:08
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A lot of people will say that any laws that come out of Washington, D.C. or any laws that come out of our state capitals are the law of the land. You have to obey them. But that's incorrect because how many of these laws that come through Washington, D.C. or come through our state capitals are made in pursuance thereof, meaning they are actually Constitution, meaning they fit in that their scope of duties, those 17 specific things that are listed there.
00:34:38
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Yeah, I think in and I think even amongst in our they've muddied the waters a lot in terms of the supremacy clause and
00:34:49
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It gives way to, of course, that's what the 10th Amendment is about with the states' rights. But are you saying that even the states who make, and maybe this is where I think it gets a little murky, where states that make laws that are contrary to the Constitution,
00:35:10
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They're able to do that or are they not able to do that so like if if New York wanted and I know of course they're trying to ban guns and I forget you might you might know the term off the top of your head there's a
00:35:24
Speaker
Oh, it'll come to me at some point, but Kevin Goodesman, he's a constitutional scholar and he talks about the notion that I think initially the founders did intend for the states to be able to have, like if New York wanted to ban guns, they could do it. But then there's
00:35:41
Speaker
I don't know. I can't remember the term for it. Basically that now we're not allowing that. The states can't create laws that go directly against the constitution. So what's going on there? Oh, so glad you asked me this. I've got a good one for you.
00:36:00
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From my comprehension, my understanding, the Constitution was written for the federal government. That's why the First Amendment says Congress shall make no laws. So that document is for the federal government. Now, there are certain restrictions upon the states.
00:36:18
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in the Constitution, such as the states cannot make anything but gold or silver coin tender for currency. The states are not allowed to make alliances with one another. The states are not allowed to make treaties with foreign countries. So there are some limitations upon the states in the Constitution. I believe it's Article 1, Section 9 or 10.
00:36:46
Speaker
And so, yeah, the federal constitution does have some limitations upon the states, but every state has its own constitution as well. And so for Florida, I've looked through the Florida constitution pretty extensively. And I love that. So first of all, all of our state constitutions are like this thick. They're all huge in comparison to the federal constitution. And that's because they
00:37:15
Speaker
because the state governments have more powers. And that's the way it should be. The more localized a government is, the better it is for the people. And so your local governments are charged with the municipal duties of setting up the schools and setting up the roads and setting up divisions of parks and recreations, departments of health and whatnot. So the states do have a lot more leeway
00:37:45
Speaker
in doing government and putting things together, which is in accordance to the 10th Amendment. But every state does also have its own constitution with not just its scope of duties as a state government, but the limitations upon that. And I guess the point that I want to make, Hailey, is that for Florida's constitution, and I would suspect for most state constitutions,
00:38:09
Speaker
They all begin with a listing of people's rights. So basically the Bill of Rights, but it's actually more like a Bill of Rights on steroids for the state level. There are 27 different, I think 27 different rights listed in Section 1 of the Florida Constitution.
00:38:28
Speaker
And the first one is so powerful, and this thought on this. So it's basically the Ninth Amendment of the Bill of Rights written into the Florida Constitution, which says, the enumeration in this Constitution should not be construed to deny or disparage other rights retained by the people.
00:38:47
Speaker
So in layman's terms, I interpret that as they can't use the government or they can't use the Constitution against you to violate your rights. And so the people the people are sovereign. We are at the top of this pecking order. We grant powers to governments through our federal Constitution and our state constitutions. And the state governments have to abide by that and they have to respect the proper pecking order, which is the people are the sovereigns. The people are in charge. We have the power and
00:39:16
Speaker
I'm not sure if that answers your question completely. But I think there's been a somewhat dangerous trend of late and it's at least since I've noticed maybe since like 2010 and Chrisanne Hall, do you know Chrisanne Hall?
00:39:32
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I'm familiar with Kristin. Yeah, she does a she's another kind of like constitutional scholar and she goes around lecturing on, you know, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and everything. And I like her because she always puts out voter guides for Florida, at least she's based in Florida, and talking about the various initiatives. And one thing that I think is disturbing that has started to happen, I say in Florida, I'm sure it's happening elsewhere is the push to make things that should be a law and amend like an actual constitutional amendment.
00:40:02
Speaker
So laws are changeable. They're a little bit more changeable. You can kind of resend those. The Constitution, whether it's at the federal level or probably even at the state level, takes a much greater effort. So for instance, here in Florida, obviously now it's in the Constitution that we have to have a $15 an hour minimum wage. I think they passed that last year. I think now this year they are trying, and I think they succeeded to get enough petitions, they're gonna put it to the ballot.
00:40:30
Speaker
to, and I don't know the exact wording of it, but essentially it's about abortion and abortion rights here in Florida. So the leftists are trying to basically enshrine abortion into the constitution. So they're trying to skirt the laws by going directly to getting these, some of these like really awful, uh, you know, policies put into our constitution. So do you have any thoughts on that?
00:40:55
Speaker
Yeah, I do. And that I'm a big fan of Chris Ann Hall's work. She's an incredible leader in the Patriot movement. Absolutely. And she does make a really, really good point there. You know, I'm not an expert on the pro-life
00:41:11
Speaker
I guess, movement and what's going on in Tallahassee, but I'm familiar with this amendment that you're referencing. Actually, our Collier County Republican Executive Committee just voted unanimously this past Monday to object to that constitutional amendment. But to the point that you're making about, you know, I guess these activists going around the law, yeah, the Florida legislature
00:41:38
Speaker
would not legalize abortion, right? And so they're doing an end around of the legislative process and trying to go straight to the voters to make this constitutional amendment. And I would say like as far as process goes, you know,
00:41:57
Speaker
I mean, if we were trying to make a change to the Florida Constitution for something good, I wouldn't be objective to that and I wouldn't be objective to the process. So I don't have any opposition to, you know, I guess the leftists using this strategy because the strategy itself could be used for good or it could be used for bad.
00:42:22
Speaker
And it's just a reality of the situation. There's one way to make laws, and that's through the legislature. There's also one way to make amendments to the Constitution, which I believe, I'm not 100% on this, but I believe the legislature's
00:42:40
Speaker
Legislators can make amendments to the Constitution, but then, yeah, another route is the more direct democracy route, which is going straight to the voters. Well, because that's what happens is that on the ballot, when you go to the ballot, you are able to directly vote on those constitutional issues. So it's not voted on by your legislatures, etc., that doesn't have to pass committee.
00:43:00
Speaker
yada yada yada so um and then it's just a well i'm not sure i'm not sure what percentage they have to pass by but you know again they they pass the minimum wage although i gotta say hey jokes on them with inflation the way it is a 15 minimum wage is is uh gonna be pretty paltry here soon anyway so uh jokes on you guys for that but um you know and that's what i liked about chrysant hall because even when it may be um
00:43:24
Speaker
a measure that she would support as a law. She says, look, I just don't like this push to make all these things constitutional amendments versus laws. And I think she makes a good point. Of course, you know, that's the problem with us is we're principled like that. And the left isn't principled. They just care about power. So it doesn't matter how they get their stuff passed as long as they get it passed. So now they're doing an end run
00:43:49
Speaker
around abortion i know that or the again i don't know the specific wording of the law but i know that liberty council who is a faith-based legal organization about in orlando they have actually challenged the the whole constitutionality of the amendment even being allowed on even though they have they've reached the signature requirement because i think it's just so vague and and whatever so they're trying to challenge it in court and we'll see what happens
00:44:15
Speaker
Yeah, I've heard that too, that the verbiage that will end up going on the ballot might be misleading to voters. And yeah, that's maybe one of the roadblocks that constitutional amendments have to get through before they actually make it to the ballot, because it wouldn't be fair for a constitutional amendment that does one thing, but it's explained in a way that makes voters think that it does another. That would certainly not be fair. So I'm glad that there is a
00:44:46
Speaker
maybe a check and balance or a process there to stop that. And we'll see how it goes if it ends up on the ballot as well as any other ballot initiatives. I think maybe kind of like going back to our initial topic of are we focusing on the problem? Are we going to focus on a solution? Yeah, it sucks. That's the case. It's not good that they're doing an end around.
00:45:13
Speaker
but they're using the way that the system is set up right now. So let's just play ball and get out there and educate voters on
00:45:22
Speaker
the truth of the matter and you know, we've got to get the vote out and we got to educate voters and educate citizens. So that's I guess where I'm going to go with that. Well, and I want to kind of switch gears a little bit. You mentioned the Republican Executive Committee and you can correct me here. I'm a little fuzzy, but I know like the Collier County was a city council or county commissioners or board of commissioners
Local Government Actions in Collier County
00:45:45
Speaker
or whatever.
00:45:45
Speaker
They've actually, the last couple years, they've done some really like based type things. So like starting last year, they passed a resolution basically enshrining health freedom into Collier County where they won't be doing any more mass mandates and vaccine mandates, etc. based on the government overreach that occurred during COVID. And then I think it made headlines just this last week or a week or two ago, where they've also now just banned the use of fluoride in the drinking water.
00:46:13
Speaker
So like y'all are doing some really cool things. Now do these like resolutions or whatever they're passing, do they have any teeth or is this just kind of like a show, kind of like a performative act or what can you tell me about that and how it's gone down and how you've managed to accomplish this? Yeah, absolutely. And I'm glad that you use that phrase because a lot of people object to resolutions saying that resolutions don't have any teeth. Well, when we look at history,
00:46:42
Speaker
The Declaration of Independence was born out of a resolution. The second Continental Congress was meeting, and I think I can't remember the guy's first name, his last name was Lee, and they called it the Lee resolution, is kind of like the rough draft of the Declaration of Independence. And so it got brought to the Continental Congress and they, you know, debated on it and voted on it. And that's what turned into our Declaration of Independence.
00:47:10
Speaker
So resolutions are absolutely powerful. They by themselves don't have the power of law, but they have the power of influence and they have the ability to, it's also a statement. So let's take the Collar County Health Freedom Resolution. So there's two things passed a little over a year ago, which was the resolution as well as the ordinance.
00:47:39
Speaker
So the resolution is like a statement and you know, Collar County is basically saying, all right, we are not going to violate the health freedoms of our citizens. And here's the supporting evidence. Here's some of the reasons why that are written into the resolution. Then fortunately for us, we have a really.
00:47:58
Speaker
awesome patriotic liberty-minded commission where they said, all right, we're also going to pass an ordinance to give it some teeth and to make it enforceable. And they actually used that health freedom, both the resolution, but primarily the ordinance. They used that precedent to get this removal of fluoride
00:48:22
Speaker
to take place just last week. And just this morning, our commissioner, and I'm going to give him some public props here, Commissioner Dan Kowal of Collier County was speaking at the Naples City Council meeting. So are you familiar? You're familiar with the term jurisdiction, right? Right. So we have the county that removed fluoride, but we also have cities within the county. So city of Marko Island already does not have fluoride in it.
00:48:51
Speaker
However, the city of Naples does still have fluoride in it. So even though the county took it out, the city of Naples still has fluoride in the water. And so Commissioner Dan Kowal was at the Naples City Council meeting this morning just giving an update on the things that he's been doing because he represents basically the entire
00:49:15
Speaker
city of Naples at the county commissioner level and the topic of removal of fluoride did come up and he did a little back and forth with one of the Naples City Council members and Commissioner Kowal was able to reference the health freedom resolution and the health freedom ordinance as to his justification for proposing removal of fluoride. So
00:49:44
Speaker
Tell me if that answers your question or if I could clarify. Well, I think I remember it goes back to like informed consent because one of their talking points was like for the health freedom was that like the overreach was there was no informed consent and you know, people need to be able to make their own personal medical choices in here. So this is the same thing with the floor that applies where people aren't able to give consent. It's pushed on them whether they consent or not going back to your term consent.
00:50:10
Speaker
And I think that's how they're using that same kind of language and line of thinking to extend to the water fluoridation mandate. Does that ring a bell? Yeah, that's spot on, Haley. That's actually, I think, Commissioner Kowal used that exact phrase this morning when talking to the city council that by fluorinating the citizens,
00:50:39
Speaker
the county was not allowing them to have informed consent because as he was saying, fluoride is actually a, not a pharmaceutical. Neurotoxin, yeah, right. And so he used that and one of the council members shot back and said, no, fluoride is something that occurs naturally in the water. And I'm thinking in my mind, well, if it occurs naturally in the water, then what are you adding?
00:51:07
Speaker
And Commissioner Kohl jumped right on that as well. And he responded back, he said, well, if you actually do your research, then you'll find out that yes, there is natural occurring fluoride, but then there's also fluoride that's derived from like aluminum byproducts. And I was so glad when he said this next line, he said, it's actually poisoned. And that's why we've removed it. So it looks like
00:51:33
Speaker
This removal of fluoride is going to be heard by the naples city council and hopefully in the near future Well, so then tell me like because I know you mentioned like the jurisdiction So are you telling me that the cities within the county can still override like the county level effort or whatever ordinance to Remove the fluoride from the water. So like like is that what you're saying? Yes
00:51:57
Speaker
Okay so even though the county of what Collier County has determined that they're going to that they they want to you know not allow them to add fluoride to the water, the cities within the county can kind of override them or decide that they don't have to listen or it's like a different jurisdiction.
00:52:17
Speaker
A different jurisdiction. I don't even know if they have to quote unquote override them, but they just basically don't have to comply because they are a separate entity. And so whatever efforts we've made to make changes at the county level, we simply just have to replicate that, you know, a step below at the city level.
00:52:39
Speaker
So it's an interesting dynamic here in Collier County because our Marco Island City Council is very conservative. They just passed a version of the Bill of Rights sanctuary ordinance. They used a different title for it because they didn't like the sanctuary use of that word. But it's basically the same thing, an extra protection of our rights under the Bill of Rights.
00:53:05
Speaker
But then the Naples City Council, there's really only two conservatives on that board of seven people. And I know Collier, at least, well, my understanding, and I live there not in Collier County. I was in Lee County, so Fort Myers just north of there. And Fort Myers and Lee County has always been understood to be a little bit more red than Naples and Collier County.
00:53:29
Speaker
So, it almost feels like, you know, how you can have like a red state, but like a blue city. So, you know, like Georgia actually is considered a red state, but Atlanta of course is like extremely blue. So, this feels like a microcosm where, and correct me if I'm wrong, where like Collier County itself might be a little bit more red, but then Naples is what kind of makes it blue. Is that an accurate way of describing that or how would you paint that picture? That is completely accurate.
00:53:59
Speaker
Yeah. And of course they are more wealthy. So what is it about? I don't know. I don't get it. You call them limousine liberals. I don't know. What is it about having wealth that equates to I should just be a liberal now or something?
00:54:16
Speaker
And it used to be, you know, and it's kind of crazy because it used to be the liberals and maybe they still try and paint themselves as like the party of like the poor and the working man. And yet somehow not, you know, not overtly, but it's like shifted where you see again, the limousine liberals where they're all like,
00:54:32
Speaker
You know hoi toi des the rich the elite the urbanites and the suburbanites that like can't afford to live in these big cities And yet somehow you know they they vote these policies in but part of it I guess if they feel virtuous about it and then but then they never have to they are not the ones that have to live under the consequences of the laws that they Vote in that's the real or that's the real urbanites that you know that have to suffer under the consequences of what they think that they're doing to help
00:55:02
Speaker
Well, so I can't really speak much to the I guess like the dynamics of the voters within the city of Naples. And frankly, just because I'm maybe I guess I'm a little fuzzy because we are a very seasonal town. So a lot of voters or a lot of people, you know, come here just for the winter months, have a home up, you know, up in New England or Pennsylvania, you know, somewhere else up north.
00:55:27
Speaker
And so I'm not sure how many of, we call them snowbirds, how many of the snowbirds are voting down here, how many of them lean more liberal versus the locals who I believe lean more red, more conservative. Based on that, maybe the city of Naples leans a little bit more liberal just based on that. But at the end of the day, I have to once again just say, you know what? Everything is my fault. And everything is,
00:55:56
Speaker
you know, the grassroots activists fault as far as this conversation goes because we have been very active at our county commissioner level. We've been very active in, you know, recruiting candidates and vetting them and then holding them accountable when they get in. And that, you know, those efforts have been so worthwhile because now we see, you know, people like Commissioner Kowal, who's like just really standing up for liberty, but we just simply haven't been as active
00:56:24
Speaker
in the city of Naples. And so I think if we would simply just admit that and say, all right, we're not going to blame the population. We're not going to blame the dynamics of the city of Naples. We're going to take some self responsibility and just get into the game. And there are plenty of conservatives in the city of Naples. They
00:56:49
Speaker
And maybe I'm just making an assumption here, but maybe they just feel like they're being overshadowed right now. And they're wondering, all right, where's the rest of us? So maybe we just need to have a bigger presence within the city of Naples. And we actually have an election.
00:57:07
Speaker
for Mayor of City of Naples coming up on March the 19th. So hopefully that will make a change. And we are, the Collier County Republican Executive Committee has formally endorsed a gentleman named Ted Blankenship for Mayor of City of Naples. And so that election is coming up right around the corner and that will hopefully shake things up at that city level. And so we'll see what happens from there.
00:57:35
Speaker
Yeah. So I want to kind of start to bring this back to some of the initial points we were talking about, but I was doing, I'm starting midway through the constitutional seven-day constitution course that you've created on your website, part-time patriotproject.info.
Educational Efforts and Community Action
00:57:54
Speaker
And I'm going to have that on my show notes page so that everybody can check it out.
00:57:57
Speaker
And I really I like it. It's it's um, like I said, I'm only halfway through But it's very easy very you know, it's not time-consuming It's very like it I was thinking it's something you could do with like your child, too You know, like if you have a middle school or a high school or like it's it kind of just bare bones Let's just get to the facts get to the main point So I've made it through, you know the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and I will say I've learned
00:58:24
Speaker
something. So one of the things that I learned, and I guess I'm actually a little surprised, I didn't know this, but that all the articles in the Constitution, each article pertains to a different jurisdiction. So Article 1 is about the legislative branch. Article 2 is about the executive branch. Article 3 is the judicial branch. So I didn't realize that each of those articles about the formation of the government and how it's supposed to work. I was like,
00:58:49
Speaker
Oh, okay, so that's cool. So when people take this course, so you've got this course that you've put out and definitely everybody should go check it out. What are you hoping the next action step is? Hey, I learned about the Constitution and the Declaration of Rights or the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights. What do you want them to do with that information after they are done? Like what should we be doing with that?
00:59:15
Speaker
Yeah, that's all right. Great question. So maybe a couple of different things. So I definitely plan on adding a bonus lesson to that exact course to answer this question. All right. What do I do with this? And one thing that I've learned from my brain coach, I'm going to give somebody else another shout out. I have a brain coach. His name is Jim quick. And he does this teaching about learning how to learn.
00:59:41
Speaker
And so one of the best ways to learn a topic is to actually then teach it to someone else. So maybe the first step I would suggest to people who take the course is to take everything that you've learned over the seven part course and teach it to somebody else. And so maybe here's maybe how you could put like a political spin on this.
01:00:05
Speaker
is all right how or first of all let's ask the question who can you teach this newfound knowledge to well you could teach it to you know your child your spouse uh some friends of yours some co-workers but you know who else needs to learn about the constitution the politicians so maybe the first action step would be to attend a city council meeting or attend your local county commissioner meeting
01:00:31
Speaker
and teach them about the Constitution. There's plenty of principles that you've learned in the Declaration of Independence. There's plenty of limitations on government that you've learned. Put that into practice by exercising your First Amendment right to peaceably assemble and to speak. I'm so glad you asked me that. I think the first action step absolutely is attending a local government meeting
01:01:00
Speaker
And when you go to the meeting, they will usually have the agenda like out in the hallway or at the front of the room or somewhere. And that's where you look at their agenda for their meeting. And they usually will do like opening up the meeting, a prayer, a pledge of allegiance. And then they will often spend like 30 minutes to an hour giving awards to everybody and everybody and their mother.
01:01:26
Speaker
And then they finally get to general public comments. And that's where I got my start as a grassroots activist was signing up to speak under general public comments. And you go up there and you can inform them about issues you have. You can inform them about. You know, if you actually want to congratulate them for standing up for liberty, you could do that. But
01:01:56
Speaker
I guess the point that I'm trying to make Haley is that the general public comments section at your local government meetings city council county commissioner and school board That is where the action begins So if if you and if your listeners will take the course go through the quizzes learn the information and then go apply it at the local government meetings somebody is going to be watching that local government meeting and be like
01:02:21
Speaker
Dang, Haley knows her stuff about the articles. She understands these limitations on government. I'm going to reach out to her and figure out what she's doing, why she's doing it. And then that's how your community in general is going to be encouraged by one another. If you take that step to be bold and to confront the local politicians, you don't even have to be confrontational. I'm not against
01:02:49
Speaker
being confrontational, because sometimes that's totally needed. But just getting up there and speaking is going to be an action that is going to inspire other people to do the same. And that's really how you get a movement going
01:03:05
Speaker
in your local community, and that's how you're able to oust people out of office once you get, you know, a local grassroots movement built up large enough. And that's how you are able to, you know, with the help of the entire community, you can leverage those public comments with, you know, and I'm going to use the fluoride vote for an example here. This must have been three weeks ago, I think, when the vote for removing the fluoride came up at the Collier County Commissioners.
01:03:35
Speaker
we must have had 15 to 20 different speakers who were prepared, who were well articulated, who were well studied and knew what they were talking about. We came with a very professional, well-informed argument for our side and the commissioners, even the one liberal commissioner
01:03:56
Speaker
who, by the way, happens to be up for reelection this year, which is why I think he voted yes. But we were able to get all five of the commissioners to vote for our cause, which was the removal of the fluoride because we utilized our knowledge and the public comments.
01:04:13
Speaker
Nice. So do you have any more, are you doing any more seminars about the five pillars of freedom or was that a one-time thing or are you going to have more like a more personal development content coming out in the near future? Yeah, thanks for asking. The seminar did go pretty well. I definitely learned a lot of different tweaks that I want to put to it. So it's parked right now.
01:04:42
Speaker
I definitely want to incorporate the importance of having healthy bodies and being financially stable and independent. And for me, living righteously and being in tune with God, letting God work through me works best for me. So I think tying all of those things into our political work as well as the mindset part
01:05:12
Speaker
It's definitely going to be forthcoming, but I don't have a specific date for you quite yet, Haley. Well, then I guess we'll have to have another conversation when you do. All right. Well, then we're going to wrap up. The name of the show is What Can We Do? I think you might have a different answer for me this time than you did the last time, but maybe something perhaps pertaining to the five pillars, but you take it wherever you want it to go.
01:05:35
Speaker
What can we do to fight back to get involved to have it make a difference have an impact? What are you thinking today is your answer to that question? Thank you for that question, Haley. There have been I love quotes if you you can't see too much of my background, but I have quotes all over my my apartment.
01:05:57
Speaker
to kind of just like remind me of different ideas and whatnot. So there's two quotes that come to mind here. One is that the only people or people who are crazy enough to think that they could change the world are usually the ones who do. And so I've been living by that mindset most of my life. That's how I got elected as a delegate to the Continental Congress. That's why I'm just so obsessed with
01:06:19
Speaker
of political activism and taking actions anywhere and everywhere I can. But then there's also another quote that comes to mind, which says, everyone thinks to change the world, but no one thinks to change themselves. And so this quote now has kind of like just redirected my thinking. And so to answer your question, what can people do right now to advance the cause of liberty, I would say,
01:06:46
Speaker
is actually just like change your thinking about liberty and we gave a few examples of such as the term constitutional rights and we touched on what the purpose of government is we touched on what the purpose of the constitution is hopefully your listeners will have gained maybe a different perspective a different way to think about the constitution maybe a different way to think about
01:07:14
Speaker
you know, the government itself. And then also adding to that point of what we focus on is where our energy goes. You know, if we're focusing on the problems, we're just going to continue to giving our energy to those problems. So if I could wrap it up here, I'll ask your listeners to change the way that you think about liberty, the way that you think about the Constitution, and just keep in mind the purpose of those documents, because every thought that you have
01:07:44
Speaker
affects your belief system, which affects your words, which then affects your actions, which affects your community, which affects your state, which affects the country. That was very well said, Dan. I'm going to wrap up with a quote of my own. This one's going to be a little bit slightly crude, but it's funny. They say, happiness is like peeing in your pants. Everybody can see it, but only you can feel it. I dare say,
01:08:11
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you know you are radiating happiness right now i can see it but it's probably because you are feeling it and i can tell just in the short while since i've last spoken to you a huge difference much positive change and i applaud you for doing that and i,
01:08:27
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I wish you much success on your personal development journey and obviously your political journey as well because you're still doing some great things on the political level as well, but starting with yourself first. I think that's something that all of my listeners should take to mind, take to heart that really the only thing you can change is yourself. As much as we can't control Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and
01:08:50
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and, you know, Joe Biden and all these people, but we can control. I can control Haley Heathman. You can control Dan Cook. And that's really at the end of the day, all we can do is we're just responsible for ourselves. But by changing yourself, you might be able to change the world. So, Dan, really appreciate your time today. Thank you for being a repeat guest of mine and look forward to catching up with you again soon. Wonderful. Thank you so much for having me, Haley.