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The Pop Culture Audit: Season 2, Episode 4 - "Don't Mess With Texas"
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Okay okay okay, FIRST OF ALL we are ALMOST out of our "technical difficulties" woods, BUT NOT QUITE. Jasmine is still having audio issues and do we blame her? NO! We blame AT&T as we should!
So this episode is a bit rough, but we promise it is worth your time!
It's time to talk about The House (as Keilah calls it, A HAUNTED HOUSE) and why the hell more people keep coming. Also, why are we wearing togas????
Join us. Won't you?
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Transcript
Introduction to Pop Culture Audit Podcast
00:00:12
Speaker
Hi, readers. Welcome to the Pop Culture Audit, where we review reality TV and talk about all things pop culture through a contemporary and critical lens. So what exactly is a pop culture audit? Easy. We take a deep dive of pop culture source material, in this case, it's summer house Martha's Vineyard, comb through it, highlighting some cringy and historic moments in pop culture discourse. If you're into that, you found the right place. If you're not into that, you're still in the right place. You just might learn something.
Reviving the Initial Vibe of Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard
00:00:39
Speaker
My name is Kela.
00:00:42
Speaker
Hello, everyone. It's Bryn. Happy Pride Month, friends. Today's the day.
00:00:54
Speaker
we're going to get, we're going fully in. I got to tell you all before we get into this recap, I felt like you all remember at the end of last episode, I was a little bit like, I don't know. This is the show I thought it was going to be. The vibes are off, but this one brought me all the way back. Like I'm fully back. Really? This is the one? This is the one. This is the one because it just wasn't like there's the drama as we'll get into, but there's also the fun moments, like some lighthearted moments.
Unveiling Interpersonal Drama Among Housemates
00:01:23
Speaker
I could watch for seven or eight minutes without having to grab my laptop and furiously take notes about everything they were saying. It was way less chaotic. It had a little bit of joy, a little bit of drama. It's what I signed up for.
00:01:41
Speaker
Let's dive into the recap. So it is a little less packed, which means I'm going to try to pull back on this recap so we don't have to go into every single detail. I feel like some of these have taken us through the window. This is Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard season one, episode four. Title of the episode is New Roomies, New Beef.
00:02:01
Speaker
Okay, recap. So we remember at the end of the last episode, we learned that Nick has a girlfriend. I gotta tell you guys, yeah, pause right here. I don't actually fucking care that Nick has a girlfriend. So just like know that as I talk about this, I could care less about Nick and his girlfriend. But that's where we pick up. The girls are all thrown off because of how much he's been in everyone's DMs. So they're like, what? This is weird.
00:02:25
Speaker
Everyone goes to bed. Now it's day six. Shanice has to leave because she has to work all week and she's like in a new sales job and she's sad slash mad that she didn't hook up with anyone. The boys decide to do a group workout and the girls are going to walk down the driveway with mimosas.
00:02:44
Speaker
Okay, I have to say also, Brea is wearing like this slip dress and these giant sunglasses and a zebra headscarf. I commented this. I put iconic. Yeah, I'm holding her dog. Don't forget holding her dog. Holding Milo walking around and she is like, the whole East Coast was made for this one. Grace Kelly.
00:03:09
Speaker
Oh, giving, giving. So the boys are doing the workout. Silas is leading the workout. He tries to like motivate Preston and he like pauses the workout to call Preston out and Preston is not interested. So he gets like snippy with Silas, which was kind of delightful. After the workout, they huddle up as a bunch of dudes and they unpack the like
00:03:33
Speaker
should girls be taking free drinks situation?
Reactions to Nick's Girlfriend and Emotional Moments
00:03:35
Speaker
I'm going to call this a producer moment because it felt very awkward. Yeah, it was for sure. Yeah. No new insights on that situation. The girls are walking and strolling. They're talking about Nick having a girlfriend. They basically think he's gross. No new insights on that situation. Once they get back to the house, Bria is chatting with Simon, her white German boyfriend, and the boys are playing beer pong and some people are in the pool.
00:04:03
Speaker
And Nick takes a quiet moment of beer pong to let Silas know that he thinks he kind of shows up as controlling, sidebar producer moment, very awkward and forced. Oh, you thought that was producer? Oh, anytime he's like, Oh, I just want to take this moment to like, bring up. That's true. Look, I don't know any guys like that. Right.
00:04:24
Speaker
Literally. Yeah, it was strange the wording. Okay. Yeah, it was very awkward. Again, like all of these shows, I think once it started, it became a real thing. But I think it was a forced start. Meanwhile, Bria, Preston and Amir are slamming mac and cheese in the kitchen. They start talking about Nick's girlfriend and then about Simon coming in.
00:04:45
Speaker
And then all of a sudden, Namir is crying. He's processing and being caught up in the emotions of spending this kind of time with all these black people. And I commented, or is he trying to hide the fact that Talgate was all his fault? And he's pretty much responsible for all the drama. Probably not. For whatever reason. He doesn't do anything about that. He's crying. Interesting. Real tears are happening.
00:05:10
Speaker
Alex and Jordan are floating around the pool. They make fun of Nick for not being able to swim and then he falls in and he's fine because it's like four feet deep.
00:05:19
Speaker
And then I pause here to say that this is the vibe I've been missing. People are having fun. They're living life. They're happy and carefree. We have mac and cheese. We're swimming. It's lovely. They order a shit ton of food, like from Grubhub or something, and this seems ideal. Amir says the plan for tomorrow is to go fishing. He's going to cook the fish. Jasmine talks about two more friends that are coming, Jason and Summer. It's like this revolving door of fucking people coming.
00:05:44
Speaker
And I am curious, like were these people always coming or are they coming because of the elimination round of Phil and Mariah? We may never know. Yeah.
00:05:56
Speaker
Then Jasmine wants to put Nick in the hot seat for being in a relationship. She says she needs to know these things so she can know how to treat him. Eventually it comes out that she is really fishing for more details because she thought he was interested in Shanice and claims he said, that's my wife
Bria's Boyfriend's Visit Sparks Tension
00:06:13
Speaker
about Shanice. So there's this whole backstory that we never really see about Nick seeing Shanice and like referring to her as his wife multiple times, maybe? Nickswares.
00:06:26
Speaker
Yeah, this is all like before the house. Nick swears he was being friendly, but not overt. The producer asked him about the, like, my wife comment. And Nick says he never, ever said it. The producer said, well, they're all saying it. And Nick continues to deny it. He says that the end goal is friendship, which I find to be the most ridiculous statement ever. OK. OK. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Friendship. Why do you say what she might look like in the store?
00:06:54
Speaker
literally whose end goal is for like, who's like, I'm in my 30s, I need some friends, I need more friends. No one. The tension eases, they all embrace and they laugh and see it's like all still joyful. They have marshmallows. These are happy black people having s'mores in America. So this is what I was here for.
00:07:19
Speaker
They go to bed, Bria texts Jasmine and she says, I'm so excited to see Simon. And Jasmine says, I can't wait to meet him. And Jasmine says, or Bria says, I get to see him for a full week. Sidebar, why are they texting? Like, why are they texting these sentences back and forth? They're literally one room away. And like, these are very strange sentences, like kindergartners texting.
00:07:40
Speaker
So somehow Silas is saying these texts and he says, wait, did we okay this? And by this he means Simon coming for a week. And Jasmine says, no. And I'm like, what? Cause they definitely did. And Silas says, we got to challenge this. And they start talking about how they're going to tell Bria, she's out of line for inviting her boyfriend. And especially because they already let her bring her dog.
00:08:01
Speaker
They decided to talk about it the next morning for the first time ever. Thank you for waiting for the fucking morning to have a conversation. And we realized they want to wait because Jasmine and Silas do the weird, porny sex thing again. In this time though, they do seem to notice that they're being filmed and they don't care. Cool. Too late now. It's already summer house after dark. Yeah, it's already been happening. Happening. Stay seven. It's fishing day.
00:08:25
Speaker
Bria and Jasmine step aside to talk about the Simon situation. Bria says that she did tell her, which is true, and Jasmine doesn't remember that. And she's worried that now Simon will be there as long as the original people, I'm not tracking this. And she wants to run up by the other housemates first. The producer tells Jasmine that Bria did say it. And Jasmine was like, Bria plays a lot of games. And what does that mean?
00:08:49
Speaker
Yes, it's a blanket. Yeah. It's like, what are you talking about? Like, girl, get a corporate job. You will be so good at talking, speaking, sliding up at all. Yeah, saying things.
00:09:11
Speaker
Bria goes up to her room. She FaceTimes Shanice.
Newcomers and House Dynamics
00:09:14
Speaker
She says, I need to talk to you. And you think, oh, she's going to like complain about the Simon thing. No. She says, Alex sat me down when there were no cameras here. And he said he felt uncomfortable because he found out about you and.
00:09:25
Speaker
whoever this guy is that she was stalking, like this stalking situation. Shanice says she's never been on a vacation where people have deep conversations like that. And I burst out laughing. You've never been on vacation. That was funny because she did not care. Well, people have had conversations about another person in the house, like potentially being a criminal. Like what a deep conversation. Why does it care that I've been harassing this person?
00:09:55
Speaker
She moves right on, and she says she got her monthly sex last night, and it's a very awkward moment. Bria does bring it back around to Simon, and Bria also does her makeup so well. She's so pretty. She died. That hair is always all over her head. Why? Because she knows how cute she looks when she's a little messy. She's a little bit more than a little messy. Stop. I'm going to say all the way out of it. That's Jasmine.
00:10:33
Speaker
All right, time to go fishing. They go out on the boat and they cannot stop catching fish. It is so cute. They just catch all these little fish. It looks also hard and kind of stressful and I would never want to. Really? We've never been fishing? Same.
00:10:46
Speaker
Oh my God, I hate everything about it. In the deep sea? Yeah. It's like there's no land. It's usually really boring. It smells. I don't want it. You're piercing things with a hook. I don't want it. But it's so cute how good they are at fishing. I feel like the captain just took them to the stalked part of the ocean. And he's like, here you go. A fish Disneyland. Yeah, it's like the little kids. And they're just like, look, you did it. Everyone wins a prize.
00:11:14
Speaker
Amir asks if they want to fry or grill the fish, so we have another like, it's Amir, a real black person moment. Everyone looks at him. And now they all smell like fish. When they get home, Bria has product placement flowers. This is the sponsored content from youflowers.com. Oh my God, girl, all over the set of the box. From youflowers.com can sponsor this podcast. Sent by her boyfriend, Simon.
00:11:40
Speaker
but don't get distracted by the flowers because summer has arrived. Not the season, the human person. She is here. Summer and Jasmine met at the Sundance Film Festival and she's a writer as well. Alex and Nick both say that Summer is giving Hilary Banks vibe and LOL that the producers don't know who that is. That was okay. Yeah, we are okay.
00:12:04
Speaker
Silas gets the group together. He says tonight's theme is going to be toga party. Team alpha versus team kappa. See the Greek stuff that we went over in the beginning is coming back. So it's good that we talked about it. Jordan says she has an omega sign tattooed on her body because her people are omegas. Good to know.
00:12:22
Speaker
Summer says she was kicked out of her sorority because she didn't really participate. She was an alpha fee. They start bickering about why it has to be Greek. I get a little lost here, but like Summer wants to be a team captain too, but they're making like the frats the teams instead of the sororities. So she says it's sexist. We move on. And then they're like kind of confusing exchange there.
00:12:44
Speaker
Now Jason is here. We're doing shots. I'm in a sidebar. I immediately love Jason so much. He's loud and happy and his smile is like so cute. I just think his vibe is just like this eager, happy, charming friend. I love him. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's just my immediate reaction. Okay.
00:13:05
Speaker
Bria is FaceTiming Simon. She's complaining about this whole situation. Jasmine and Jason stop by her room and say hi. Simon is naked on the FaceTime, but like, only from the top up.
Bria Confronts Silas on Control Issues
00:13:16
Speaker
She does see his wiener, but whatever. They're going to put Summer and Jason in the pool house.
00:13:23
Speaker
I gotta ask you all, why didn't they put Bria and the dog in the pool house from the fucking beginning? Great question. Great question. This all? Put the dog in the pool house. Great question. Okay. Also, the roses from Simon are just hanging out in the middle of the kitchen island haphazardly, and then the whole crew is cooking dinner around them. It's a very strange situation.
00:13:48
Speaker
Rhea comes into the kitchen sort of like a wrecking ball. She talks shit to Silas about his lemon juice, and then she dumps a whole can of lowries on the broccoli while everyone yells at her. And then Jason says, we know who your boyfriend is now, and starts laughing, because he's making fun of her boyfriend for being white. And his laugh is so cute. I love Jason.
00:14:12
Speaker
Okay, so they're outside talking about the Simon situation and they both agree that they just want everyone to be comfortable in the house. Everything is going okay with their conversation until it's not. Bria says, if it comes down to it and it has to do with race, and Silas is not having it, he gets very upset.
00:14:32
Speaker
Bria says, when you were in the car, you said, I prefer our Black women to be with Black men. We did not see this, y'all. They cut back to the scene that we never saw. And Silas is saying, he says, I want Black women to be married, period. My preference is to a Black man, but I want them to be married. I cannot wait to unpack this, I wrote. Amir tells Jasmine that she should go outside because they can all hear them fighting. Once again, Amir, agent of chaos.
00:15:01
Speaker
So she saunters out there awkwardly, interrupts them, but they just keep going. And now Jasmine's kind of side coaching. She's backing him up in a very unnecessary way. Silas says, I was in the field with white guys. He's getting more and more worked up. He says it's breaking his heart. Now Bria is crying. Bria is letting this go wild into the abyss. She says they are lying on her. She says, I will not be controlled on vacation. She says she hates these people.
00:15:30
Speaker
Don't worry, the food's ready. They have to put on their togas. Jasmine can't believe that they caught this fish earlier. It blows her mind.
00:15:38
Speaker
Upstairs, Bria is aggressively packing up her shit. Silas kind of feels bad, so he goes upstairs to find Bria, and she's literally pouting in bed. Silas says, her boyfriend is staying too long. They already made an exception for Milo. And Bria responds very normally with, I can't fuck my dog to get off. This is her logic.
00:16:03
Speaker
This is her logic about why her boyfriend should be allowed to be there. She goes on to say that she could, they can all hear Jasmine and Silas having sex every other day. And Silas says, Jasmine and I are full members of the house in like the fucking. I thought we're on vacation. What are we talking about? Full members. This is from our mediator with the Nerf football, right? Like it's so serious.
00:16:31
Speaker
Silas calls her manipulative. Okay. He says manipulative wrong like four or five times. I'm just going to say like, he says manipulative. I don't know. He adds another L to it somewhere. And Bria is like shouting things and Bria is giving like the same energy she gave Mariah. Like Bria just goes, right? Like she just goes in and she just starts yelling things.
00:16:54
Speaker
And it's important to know that Silas is wearing a toga during this whole fight. So he keeps calling her manipulative and she says he's controlling. He's trying to control Jasmine. She's throwing all this stuff in the space. She's shouting at him down the stairs and Jasmine hears her yelling and she comes staring towards them. And I guess we'll find out what happens next week because that's the end of this episode.
00:17:22
Speaker
It's never a dull episode. Never. Yeah. Never a dull episode ever.
Analyzing House Dynamics and Control
00:17:30
Speaker
I'd like to kick off. So can we talk about, okay, did we okay this? Are they the parents of the house?
00:17:51
Speaker
I don't like the verbiage that is being used from Jasmine and Silas. I do think that he's very controlling. He says there has to be a boundary. I thought the wrong vacation. Didn't that sound like a chaperone? What is a boundary? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Yeah, it seems he seems very concerned about
00:18:15
Speaker
allegedly everyone else is concerned about time of day for five or six days, but no one else in the house with the exception of a singer who is the forever villain is worried about it. So I don't understand why this is such a big deal. I don't get it. I must have like, I do. I get it. Why didn't they just vote? Why didn't they just vote? They could have just voted in the moment. What's up with all this voting? They're going to vote.
00:18:43
Speaker
If they want an opinion, then just vote. I'm like, why are y'all make belaboring the point? Just vote. Okay, Bryn, but you say you get it. I get it. I do get it. Say more. I still don't like Silas. Let's be clear. This is not about being team Silas.
00:18:59
Speaker
Like, she shows up with a dog, y'all, okay? Immediately a strike, a whole fucking dog to this thing. And like, this is their thing. They are being controlling and nightmarish about it. They're being hilarious. Like, they're so, it's so deep to them, full members of the house. But then then she's like, Oh, my boyfriend's coming for a week. Well, they've curated this whole thing, right? And I'm gonna say is like, one of my audit points was if Silas making a move based on race,
00:19:28
Speaker
probably a little, but so what? He wanted to have a whole trip, a whole house of only black people, and this fucks up that vibe. I think it puts him in a tough spot where people can't really say that, but this is clearly a whole all-black house, and you're going to bring your white boyfriend in here, and that fucks up this vibe.
00:19:50
Speaker
And she did already bring a fucking dog. And now she wants to bring a German. Also remember that Bria is the person who invited Phil. Okay. So she's like batting zero. Zero. Okay. So y'all are holding Phil against her.
00:20:13
Speaker
I'm holding Phil, I'm holding the dog stuff against, I'm holding Milo, and the dog hair, and Mariah's face. I'm holding that against the mirror, the dog. Justice for Mariah, and I'm covering you on some of this. Justice for Mariah. Yeah, totally. I will say that.
00:20:26
Speaker
I think where it feels lucks if I were another guest, if I was also in the house, is who made the guest list because it constantly seems like it's shifting. Okay, Mariah went home a couple days ago and suddenly Summer and that other man had time to come down here.
00:20:44
Speaker
Yeah, like what's going on? And then Bria couldn't invite Phil, but then Phil was like chaos. So then they sent it like, it just seems like the guest list isn't really set. So that, in my mind, gives them not a lot of ground to stand on. Exactly. Because it seems like everyone's been ripping and running through the house. So I thought it was supposed to be fun. My boyfriend come. Exactly. Right. I don't get why couldn't he come.
00:21:11
Speaker
I also can see like, uh, if somebody's boyfriend comes and it turns into a couple's thing. But then I'm also like, there's only one couple in the house and it's Jasmine and Silas and they let us know that. So sure. Just bring your boyfriend. He's going to stay in the room with her. It might give her more peace. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I see it as an issue. You need to have your whole dog and your whole boyfriend and you're going to bring this white man in this house.
00:21:40
Speaker
I could see that. And it puts them in an awkward situation to have to say that, but I think it's a fair thing to want, you know? Like, I don't know. I don't know.
00:21:54
Speaker
You all know when we had those friends in high school or whatever, and you were gonna do a friend thing, and then they brought their fucking boyfriends, and you're like, oh, no. Okay, that. Okay, yeah. But then the whole house, Bria's like doing her own thing. I hated that. Like her best, Shanice is gone, everybody's kind of doing their own thing, trying to flirt and be weird. So I feel like Simon being in the house would make Bria happier, because Bria has been so upset.
00:22:18
Speaker
She was crying at the club. She was like, she may be high maintenance bros. Like she might, Bria might not be the hero we want her to be. Zebra has scarves aside. It may bring her peace. It may bring her peace. I also, I feel the argument about like, Oh, here comes another man. But then also like, I don't know. I feel Simon could be minding his own business. Put a dog in Simon in the pool house then. Right? Like.
00:22:47
Speaker
Okay, yeah, that's a fair, yeah, that's fair. That's a fair compromise. I think for me, it's just, as I'm the more serious kind of person in a fun situation, and it's not like, same business. I'm like, yeah, let's get more energy. It's more fun. God, come have a good time. Like, to me, it's not a big deal. Like, if that were my friend, and my boyfriend will be coming, oh, great, can't wait to meet him. And that is what they said. So that makes them wrong.
00:23:14
Speaker
because she said it a whole, like, I think it was like the first birthday. And then it was at the bowling night. And now they're acting like they don't remember just particularly, you know? So here's my theory. And look at producer ghosts. We have it on film. Yeah, I love the producers in this. I love the producers. Also, I love that they're not there to film. Like, we don't see any of this. This is all new to us. But so here's my theory. Here's my power dynamic theory about this whole house, OK? I was like trying to unpack this. So it starts with Bria bringing the dog.
00:23:43
Speaker
Bria brought the dogs and people that didn't land with people, even though they were saying, you just got to kind of go with it. It's an emotional, it's a support animal, right? You can't really say shit about it, but they kind of want to because it's kind of rude. Yeah, they did. But I think it's less about the actual dog hair and more about the audacity of bringing it without asking. And so that's where the flex comes from, right? Mariah wants to flex because of that.
00:24:12
Speaker
So Mariah flexes on Bria. So Bria wants to flex back, right? And then she's like, that's when, you know, she's yelling at her. She doesn't even care that she didn't actually put the towels and the dog toys together. She's just ready to fucking snap her head off. So they're in this power struggle. She's still salty about the power struggle. And so she gets Mariah kicked out and kind of uses that moment.
00:24:34
Speaker
But then I think Jasmine is salty that she had to kick Mariah out. So now she's flexing back on Bria. Like I think part of this whole thing is her being trying to put Bria in her place because Bria has kind of been running the game. Like she brought her dog without
Power Struggles and Motivations in the House
00:24:49
Speaker
asking. She got Mariah kicked out. Mariah was Jasmine. Jasmine had to do that, had to kick her out because of Bria. And so I think she's just doing this to like.
00:24:59
Speaker
try to reclaim her. That's fair. I did neither. That's a very fair point. It was nothing for Brea to tell Phil to go home. No. And I think that makes sense. That makes Jasmine man too, where she's like, no, I have to keep my friends out. Like I'm crying about my friends. Yeah.
00:25:18
Speaker
because she came at you, yeah, like this has been, this all goes back to her bringing the dog without asking and it's this chain of events of like who's on top. We are literally watching like Hunger Games shit in this house. Totally, totally. That's exactly how I view this alleged vacation house for sure. This is a nightmare. This is a haunted house with cars on it. This is like a camp. It feels like
00:25:46
Speaker
You're a teenager, not even like a pre-teen when you go to camp. It feels like Silas and Jasmine are chaperones. And they just want to like organize and program and control the conversation in everyone's business and make sure they're not kissing or hooking up. That's not smart. That's not automatic with anyone in Silas. I'm with them because the controlling sector and the way handling these adults is
00:26:16
Speaker
so condescending, I can't stand. And so I'm like, yeah, Brie, let him know he's controlling. He's, you know, everyone in the house, you know, like when she was going in, I'm like, yes, let him have it. I'm like, I don't think that he's manipulative or whatever. Yeah, me either.
00:26:39
Speaker
But I do, you know, I get it. OK, maybe stomping off with her dog like a spoiled brat in the night. You know, yeah, sure. Maybe that's not very good. But he's still off. And so that just leads me to my second audit point, which is Silas is the worst.
00:26:57
Speaker
I have the first thing under here is the integrity of it. And I said, it's freaking bogus. So when they're disgusting, they're disgusting. And teams for games that they're going to play for this night, the alphas and the capas. And then what's the new girls? I can't remember. Summer comes in and she's like, well, I'm an alpha. And they're like,
Exploring Lack of Chemistry and Awkward Interactions
00:27:28
Speaker
Oh, and then they just didn't say anything. Just kind of moved, mosey right on a long pass. And it just, it's like the constant rules, like playing your best out of five. It's just like stuff already pressed in, give it your all. Hold on a second. No, we're not. We're on vacation. Like I can't.
00:27:57
Speaker
You're not, he's the worst. And that is why Jazzy is suffocating and her professionals talk about his sitter's history to him. What is he saying? How did he, what is he saying to her? Because these people are, I don't know. I don't know, I can't, I can't feel, I just have to say this honorable mention of a plant Jazzy saying, okay, abundant.
00:28:36
Speaker
So I just have to say one more honorable mention of the point that might be a theme coming up here for me aka summer house after dark. I put here if I have to hear jazz
00:28:54
Speaker
She's obviously faking it in a moment. Wow. Wow. On that note. You told us. Damn. I told us. I feel like we don't always get, like, the sex scenes in other shows. And for whatever reason, we are being haunted by their sex scenes every single night.
Producers' Influence and Authenticity of Interactions
00:29:13
Speaker
We're being harassed. Every single night. We're being harassed. Literally. Every night. Every phone can grab it and everyone can move it. I am.
00:29:27
Speaker
That was stop that was haunted Every week and she's over it. I'm over it. I know she's over it. I'm over it. We're all over it. Okay enough That's that's her man. That's her husband disgusting. Hold on one more thing. I have another thing He last week you said this is the most hetero show you've ever seen I officially When they split off those gender acts
00:30:12
Speaker
Because you all know that I'm also watching Ultimatum Queer Love. Hello. That's right.
00:30:18
Speaker
Yeah, there's a chasm between the shows. Totally. I think what's interesting is that it feels like Jasmine and Silas have planned all of this and act confused when the rest of the house guests are like, oh, I didn't realize it was that deep.
Amir's Cultural Disconnection Experience
00:30:35
Speaker
Like when Silas was drilling Preston about the workout, Preston was like, this is not that big of a deal. I didn't even want to do this. I was frustrated and sad.
00:30:45
Speaker
Yes, there's your LB. Yeah, everybody. How is this slipping away from me? I also want to say it's the most hetero show on TV with the least chemistry and like sexual tension. Like maybe this is why I don't care about Nick or what like none of these people actually want to fuck. It doesn't seem like wait, okay. Okay, so one of my audit points this week was about the sexual
00:31:16
Speaker
I don't even know if I knew sexual energy. So the first thing, when Shanice calls and goes, I have my monthly sex. Good for you, girl. But maybe it was the end. That's the first thing I thought, yes. Yes, Shanice. But also, because I didn't say this in the recap, let's just tell the readers that at first, Bria thinks she's talking about her period. Yes. Which is hilarious. Bria goes, I just finished mine. She's like, no. Tell you what I said.
00:31:44
Speaker
Like for her, that whole call was so confusing because neither of them were on the same page. But that was like the first explicit mention of like, I'm trying to have sex. So then I want to point out two moments of maybe flirting that were very weird. The first was Alex making sexual comments to Jordan when they were bowing down. Jordan was like, I don't know what's going on. And I was like, I don't know what's going on either as a third party. Like we haven't really seen Alex talk to Jordan.
00:32:15
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at all. I haven't seen them in a row at all. He's like making these sexual jokes. That wasn't weird. It felt out of place. It felt so weird. Then the second is Jordan. I'm going to say Jordan floating with the mirror.
00:32:33
Speaker
because they're getting ready for the boat and Jordan was like, I don't know if I have warm clothes. And Amir was like, do you need to borrow my hoodie? And Jordan was like, well, I'm gonna go ask Bria if she has anything cute. What is going on? I love this breathy voice. That's how people sound when they, that's how everyone sounds when they flirt. Can I borrow your sweat? What? If you're bored, just say you're bored, but like, Amir?
00:33:00
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Like I don't know the vibe was that was like the first like horny Like maybe they just need to get out. I don't know. It was just I was like, okay I know they're going out it's like dinners but it feels like an engine of the house like what is there to do in Martha's vineyard and argue with
00:33:23
Speaker
You know? Well, they're not meeting, they're not even meeting townspeople. I know. I'm in townspeople. The real world. The local cobbler. Yeah.
00:33:39
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they interact with other people like other people will like oh this is so and so who knew my da da da da da like there there's always the other part of the universe is interacting but i feel like they go out and it's just them and with the exception of that man who was like take a shot with brie and chinese we have not interacted with that that was it and then started crying so there there's that the weird um
00:34:06
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sexual energy, then speaking of still of sex, something that I cannot get over is when at the formal dinner of abundance, when Jasmine tries to press Nick coyly, the whole wife thing is, it's just weird. It's a throwaway. I don't care.
00:34:28
Speaker
I don't care. I don't care. But like, okay, that was just like a weird thing to do. The weird thing is you having a girlfriend and being in other people's DMs. I feel so bad for this woman. How embarrassing. Oh, sorry to cut you off. I just have to say, he said that private but posted the pictures on national television.
00:34:48
Speaker
Okay. That didn't balance with me either. And I was like, y'all can be private, but why are you in other people's DMs? Why are you in other women's DMs? How embarrassing, how embarrassing to find out, like what if she didn't know and she's watching the show like the rest of us and is like, oh, my man has been in multiple women's DMs who are going to be his roommates. And I am just
00:35:12
Speaker
I'm a private girl who's younger than him. So anyway, what sent me about this whole thing was Jasmine being like, I just need to know how to treat you. Why?
00:35:22
Speaker
Why? What does the girlfriend have to do with how you treat him? Because she's trying to get people to hook up. This is another reason she's flexing on Bria. She's mad that Bria has a man and that she's serious about it. The first moment she was mad about it. It's giving sims. It's giving sims. These are adults. My God. So then when she goes, well, as long as y'all are on the same page, is all that matters.
00:35:46
Speaker
This is maybe the funniest, shadiest thing that Jasmine has said this entire season. I screamed, because you know damn well that they're not on the same page. What? No, no. No one's on the page of their names slipping into the end. No one.
00:36:05
Speaker
I would be emailing somebody in the government to just give me a new life in another country. My man is on action to be in another woman's DMs being like, that's my wife. Oh, I'm done. You will never see me again. I completely agree. The level of theory that I, so I've been a secret on this show the whole time.
00:36:26
Speaker
And then after I've been in everyone's DMs and they find out what's going on, my pictures are being splashed across America's screen. Absolutely. Child. No. So embarrassing. It's the DMD brief for me. All these women get together. Who all has been DMed by Nick? And then for him to be so weird talking about how they met, she's a bit younger than me. Oh, my flag. We've been dating for years. We knew each other for years. I don't. For years.
00:36:56
Speaker
I don't buy any, I don't buy any. I don't think that this girl's girlfriend. I need some birth certificates because that's. I don't know how to add a berser. That's, whenever a man is like, oh yeah, she's younger than me, that could be anywhere from 25 years to five years. Like. Yeah, yeah. What?
00:37:18
Speaker
Okay, so I didn't feel good about that. And then the last thing that truly sent me into actual fits of screams, when people get accused of being racist, they say the wildest things. Their first reaction is to say the wildest thing.
00:37:35
Speaker
Time out too, sorry. Can we just agree quickly as we set the table for this that black people can, we just like level set, black people can be racist. Yeah, we're literally about to say that. Okay, sorry, please go. You can be prejudiced, but you can't be racist. That's right. So the fact, these are two people who shouldn't even be in a conversation anyway, because the argument spiraled out into the weirdest thing. But Silas being like, you call me a racist when Bria didn't say that.
00:38:04
Speaker
And then for him to jump and be like, when you think I'm a racist against white guys, when I've been in the field with everyone, what? What? What? No one's talking about the war. But that is classic. When any person is accused of racism, but what about? It's always insane.
00:38:36
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I was like, why did you go there? Also, I didn't like the way he was talking to her. He raised his voice. I was like, I don't really like the way you're talking to this woman. So that was very wacky. I want to branch off and talk about how
00:38:53
Speaker
Even if they wanted an all-black house, that's fine. Just say that. I do think it's interesting, and the bar is in hell, so I just want to say that before I get started. In hell. I appreciate Tyler saying, I want to see black women married, period. Black women... I don't know if this data is still... You know what? Let me not even do that. But the narrative has been that black women get married the least, and that are the most likely to be single. I don't have stats to support that, and so it's in the comments. Right.
00:39:20
Speaker
negative within black folks about black women being single and not being married and they need to adjust their standards if they want to be married. So I think there's something really interesting that like shows that Silas is capable of having this like bigger nuanced conversation. And then it deeply disappointed me that like
00:39:41
Speaker
he couldn't just have a more direct conversation with Bria about her man. But she did twist that. Bria twisted that because what he was saying, which is also wacky. Yes. What he said was had nothing to do with Bria and her man. And like you said, was
00:39:58
Speaker
over overtly in support of black women period right and then like yes yes i also like black families and black ass kids and all you know like i just don't like she totally twists exactly also totally twisted that she if you look back at the um little flashback when things are i looked at bria and she's shaking her head and
00:40:20
Speaker
So I was like, oh, who is this threat? Because she's just trying to remember. I think we were having a completely different conversation. And I think Brie is like, OK, now that this argument has gotten truly off the wall, I'm going to just pull some stuff out of my hat. OK. Out of her. Thank you for the segue. Out of her bucket hat. Are we wearing bucket hats?
00:40:42
Speaker
Everyone has a bucket hat. Who does? Do you both have buckets? I don't. I don't. I'm getting one for this summer. Like a child. But I do want one. Jordan like made fun of Phil's dusty ass bucket hat. But then all of a sudden not everybody has a bucket hat. Like was it so his specifically was dusty, but not the concept of a bucket hat. I don't think that his was dusty. I think that was her way of like getting a bucket hat.
00:41:05
Speaker
because I was looking at his fucking hat at the time, and I was like, it's not Jesse. What are you talking about? It was a low flirt. It was a note from the last episode. You know whose hat I cannot stand? Silas's Popeye-ass looking hat. Whenever I see that sailor Popeye hat on his head, I write it down. I cannot stand that hat. It's too small for his head. I cannot stand that hat. I can't.
00:41:33
Speaker
It's giving like Cory gives me bull vibes. Yeah You know just cheese ball. Just what the fuck are you doing? You are taking it is cornball It is cornball, but a lot of the men have cornball energy. Like I think I told you I think our mirrors a cornball Beyond no, I like I like
00:41:57
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I don't think the sex jokes with the blow up is weird. Maybe we missed something that they didn't show us.
00:42:09
Speaker
Are you an Alex defender I might be this week Wow, you know the curse anytime you stand for I know this is what happened with the mirror I'll never make the same mistake again Any
00:42:28
Speaker
I have one minor one and then one that I'm like, y'all. Okay. The minor one is I'm really uninterested in all of this little sister talk. Oh my God. I have notes about that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What's going on? It's like so paternalistic and they only do it about the girls and everyone thinks everyone else is like, Oh, he's going to go in on Simon or you're going to do this. And it's just like, cause you're a little sister and like,
00:42:53
Speaker
They're not. She's not your little sister. No, this house is your sister. You don't even know her. You don't even know her. We've been in the house for six days. Everyone's playing into it. The girls are playing into it too. Stop. Stop. Your problem. The dynamics are so gross. I don't like that.
00:43:09
Speaker
Also, I think we can- Can I say one thing about this? Please. Sorry. Please. I wonder what it would be like if Bria was open to dating or hooking up because she's physically very small. And so I wonder, there is an element. I'm curious about how body and sex and attractiveness and skin tone all play a matter of this. And I wonder what her experience would be like if the men knew they could possibly have sex with her.
00:43:36
Speaker
And so they like jumped quickly with speed, my friends, to be like, this is my little sister and I support her immediately. Yeah, because they need some reason to be close to her. She didn't even get another character arc. Yeah, no. Right, right. Y'all could just be friends. You could be equals. But the goal is friendship. The end goal is friendship.
00:43:56
Speaker
But y'all did not talk about Shanice like that. Shanice was never anybody's friend when y'all came out. Exactly. Or Jordan. No sister, no friend. Same with Jordan. No sister, no friend. So you're being weird. I thought that was strange. They didn't say anything about her. So the vibe is like, I just want to acknowledge there's like some size-isms, some colorism. Yes, yes.
00:44:17
Speaker
level of sexual attractiveness that's happening here is fucking weird. Okay, please continue. I'm sorry, doctor. No, no, this says the segue is perfect. I think, and I really think I want to see one more episode to understand how this all ties together, but. Okay.
00:44:33
Speaker
We are getting increasingly lighter skinned, right? As we go through. And that's not to understand why Simon can't come in because that'll just wrap it all up from there. Okay. Jasmine, go to sleep. And now I'm trying to keep our skin out and y'all letting every, every light skin person on the block in.
00:44:53
Speaker
We are progressing down a spectrum. That's all I'm saying. And the end goal is... Do we not think that's weird? But Simon can't come. Do we not think that's weird? I was like, how interesting. I mean, not only light skin, light skin with green eyes, light, it just, it is wild. Very, yes. At the same time, they could be... Great. The last three that Shanice...
00:45:16
Speaker
They look like they could be sister and brother, actually. Shanice, Summer, Jason, everybody's related. Summer and Jason, I thought were like cousins or siblings. Yeah. I was like, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is an interesting, like you kicked out Phil, we kicked out Mariah, and now like, okay. And then light that up over there. Just gonna lighten the mood. Do be clear. Do be clear, readers. There's nothing wrong with being light-skinned. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to all the light-skinned people listening right now.
00:45:47
Speaker
Jasmine, go to sleep. Go to sleep. The point is, it is salient. It is salient that in a show that is centered around blackness and a woman running around saying, I appreciate you, black man. Black excellence, cheers to black excellence. Abundance. It allows three people to be light-skinned. It's just
00:46:10
Speaker
it's just it's swag surfing at the table doing the directorial pick that um optically i think i would have done differently speaking of race and colors all that stuff why is a mirror here right right right that's that's just me in my notes uh why why is a mirror treating the house like an african-american camp
00:46:37
Speaker
I mean, let him tell it is not a black person in Austin for days. Like it is just the way he's acting about where I'm from versus where he is all that crying. I just, I cannot, he acts like he's never been around black people and it's getting frustrating.
00:46:59
Speaker
for me. I'm going to stand with what I said last week. I'm so offended that you live in Texas and feel like the black experience is lackluster. Texas, Texas of America has so much black history. Are you?
00:47:20
Speaker
She's gripping the mic again, everybody. I'm about to do like a rap cypher. It's just so, it feels anti-black. It's so disrespectful. Totally. It's so disrespectful. There are blacks there. You just start talking to them. Yeah. And it's just, it's a lot of black people and I will like to go on record.
00:47:45
Speaker
It is rated like one of the best places to be as a young black professional. And then Austin is where we like vacation. That's like our little areas. He is exposed to lots of black people and black people are doing well. And it's wild how he's acting like, I don't know where he's acting like he's from because it's not from Texas. It's really ridiculous, you know? So I'm just annoyed by it. I think that's an American context.
00:48:13
Speaker
It's like, Mir, how much of America have you seen? Maybe it's global. He spent a lot of time going to Lebanon. I don't even know because there are dark-skinned people in Lebanon too. I feel like he's playing a role. I feel like he got a reaction from this and he's leaning all the way into it. I feel like they're all just playing a role and he's like, oh, this works. This endears me to you all. Then it's funny when I
00:48:37
Speaker
don't know if we should fry fish or real life. I was like, what do you mean should fry a pork? You know damn well. Talking about. I feel like he's committed to this character when he was crying. And I know we got like a cut of it. When Preston and Bri are just eating mac and cheese. I was like. In a bucket hat. OK. OK. Security. Like what is going on?
00:49:07
Speaker
I don't know what to feel for this man because this is so ill played. That is so inappropriate. Not in front of my food. Not for my plate. It was so uncomfortable. It was so uncomfortable. It was weird. It was weird. Okay, y'all give me your villains. Give me your heroes.
00:49:29
Speaker
Okay. Milo is very crazy. No, no, because Milo, when he comes on the screen, he freaking liked it up. Super star. Okay. Love him. That's just freaking Milo. I'm tired of him being in the middle of an argument. By the way, when Milo went running in the room and I was like, Milo, how did you get in here? I'm like, yes, Milo, just
00:49:51
Speaker
run all over the place. Yes, I'm here for it all. So yes, Milo this week, we'll see what happens next week. And then of course, my villain. Yeah, great. It was all distorted. Yeah. Really? For what? Just off of the strength that I'm so sick of her saying playboy and talking about
00:50:17
Speaker
Like, yeah, every time she meant this freakin playboy enough already. Yeah, wait, the tattoo this week, yo, that even allowed. I don't think that's allowed. She's getting
00:50:34
Speaker
But she might be getting hate. Absolutely getting hate on her DMs. You think she's getting hate? I am. Man, those Greeks take it so serious. Yes, they do. They do. And I'm going to say nothing about it. But I don't want to talk. No, I love it. I don't want to single.
00:50:51
Speaker
That's the best one. I am good over here. Okay, I'm just, I wanted to identify that. I didn't even want to talk about it, but I did write it in my notes. I just said like, girl, like I wrote, she has an Omega tattoo and then girl in the lower comment. Anyway, Bren, who, Bren, what's your pick? Oh, you guys are good. Okay, so second, we're going to move on because we're going to run out of time.
00:51:15
Speaker
My hero is Mariah, just as from Mariah. Ellen AO and your hero being someone who's not in the house.
00:51:22
Speaker
Yeah, I get to pick different people, but okay. No, I think it's Mariah. I'm staying with Mariah. My villain is Bria, y'all. I think she's chaotic evil, and I think she knows it. She is chaotic, but I love that. She's chaotic evil. She isn't here to fuck shit up. She's playing this character. She is the brattiest brat. She is the one lying to people. She's the one that got Mariah kicked out.
00:51:47
Speaker
She is like pulling all the puppet strings in this house and she looks fucking great while she does it, but she gorgeous. She's gorgeous. She's gorgeous. Mariah, come on the show. My villain this week is Silas.
00:52:05
Speaker
and a mirror. It's going to be a mirror every week. And Alex for just being weird. And then my hero this week is going to be Preston for standing up to Silas during the workout. Okay. I feel like Preston's going to get a serious hero award because at every moment he's been like, no, actually not. Yeah.
00:52:29
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He immediately called out Jasmine's black excellence thing at the beginning and every episode he said, I love that. I did too. When he was like gently being like, Phil, you need to go to sleep. Like go home. Yeah. Oh yeah. Why are you talking about slaves? You have a point. Make your point. Make it. Make your point. That was so funny. Make your point. We might need like a Preston super cut at the end of this. Oh, fan cam.
00:52:57
Speaker
All right. Readers. We did it again. Yay. We kept Jasmine with us the whole time. All this time. I'm in a conference room. I have headphones on. I had to sit in a certain position to make sure that I didn't act a fool. Readers, us women in STEM have been going in the ES for entertainment. Totally.
00:53:23
Speaker
100%. We have been going through it. Okay, do you know we have I am I'm gonna take this home. Thank you everybody for listening.