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The Pop Culture Audit: Season 2, Episode 1 - "We Can Explain!"
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We're baaaaaaackkkkk and we're sorrrryyyyyyy! The audit girls are here to take on a completely new show and, friends.....we aren't in Calabasas anymore!
Join us on this next wild ride through pop culture canon-in-the-making. And, listen, ----- WE CAN EXPLAIN!!!
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Transcript
Setting the Mood with Music
00:00:11
Speaker
I love this music. Wow. That's a new song. It's a new show. Let me find out that Brin's low-key a DJ. I really like the music. You mixed it at her house. Yes. It's like us whole set behind her. You did good. Yeah, I love it. I love it. A new vibe for the new season, you know? I love that.
Introducing Pop Culture Audit
00:00:35
Speaker
Well, welcome to the Pop Culture Audit, where we review reality TV and talk about all things pop culture through a contemporary and critical lens. So what exactly is the Pop Culture Audit? Easy. We take a deep dive of pop culture source material, comb through it, highlighting some cringy and historic moments in pop culture discourse. If you're into that, you found the right place. If you're not, you're still in the right place. My name is Keela. Welcome to season two.
New Season, New Direction
00:01:03
Speaker
Yes, it's season two. This is Jasmine. This is Bren. We're back again. Kela. We can explain. Yeah, tell the people what we're doing. OK, people. Well, this feels kind of like a lead up because I have I'm sharing this. So everyone we took, we take voting very seriously in this house. It's very important to us. And a lot of the polls.
00:01:28
Speaker
but a blot of the poles said Real Housewives of Atlanta, which we love.
00:01:36
Speaker
But we had to take a creative change to represent the future. There are so many brilliant podcast ancestors who have incredible Real Housewives podcast. And we love your work. You are artist in your own right. And we decided to pave a path that has yet to be paved, dare I say. And we have decided to move forward with
00:02:05
Speaker
It's on our house, Martha's Vineyard.
Exploring Martha's Vineyard
00:02:08
Speaker
Yes. I love that. Tell the people, tell the people the creative direction.
00:02:18
Speaker
Okay, the reason why we chose Martha's Vineyard Summer House is because summer is upon us, everybody. We wanted fun. We wanted fresh. We wanted something that none of us have been exposed to. We don't know these people. So we're all approaching this with fresh eyes. And we're all surprised about the same things. We're all
00:02:38
Speaker
looking into these people with new perspectives. And I'm just excited to dive into this. I watched only two episodes of the previous summer house in the Hamptons. So I have just a little bit of an idea of what to expect, but not really. So I'm really excited to audit this with everybody, with you two, but listening.
00:03:03
Speaker
with everyone hopefully you're auditing to, not us, the show, alongside of us. And just to be fair, I think we have to say, y'all, we were going to take the poll seriously. We were on a planning meeting, and we were about to break, and we were like, great, we're doing Real Housewives. It's what the people want. And we were literally hanging up, and then we said, but what if we didn't?
00:03:26
Speaker
That is so true. That is actually what happened. So we were so close and maybe next time, but we had to, you know what women don't do enough? Listen to their intuition and listen to each other. Okay. Thank you. So we're going to let the internet tell us what to do. No, not in Joe Biden's America. Absolutely not.
00:03:48
Speaker
So we did appreciate the input. It did give us a lot to think about, but it couldn't be ignored that we really wanted this vibe for summer. We were going to this. Yeah. Couldn't get away from it. And our polls still matter in the future. Please respond to the polls in the future. We just had to take a new direction today. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Historical and Cultural Insights
00:04:09
Speaker
I feel like it's important to give a little context for the show, Keila, like this specific
00:04:15
Speaker
This summer house. Okay. Yes. Yeah. As opposed to previous summer, House Eye. House Eye. The houseery. So I have invulnerability. I have not watched summer house before, even though I love the premise of adults coming into a house being forced to live together. But this summer house is special because the cast is all black. Fantastic. And Martha's Vineyard is actually...
00:04:42
Speaker
Sorry, that was delayed reaction. The summer, the summer. I feel like things have elevated this season already with the summer. We really got to production. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a production class at NYU. She came back from Tisch, and she's different. OK, so Martha's Vineyard, which sounds incredibly white, and I am not a Northeastern person, so I thought it was, actually has an expansive history of being a vacation spot for Black folks in America.
00:05:11
Speaker
and historically has been a black location. As rich white folks moved in and wanted to do what they normally do, gentrify, it did push some of the population out of the community. I can't speak too much about it because I'm still doing my Martha's Vineyard research, but it's beautiful.
00:05:29
Speaker
The town looks enchanted. It's just so cute. It's so cute. It is cute. And it evokes a very real world, which I wanted. I did want a real world coverage of having these young, beautiful people come live in this house. Right. Yeah. I never knew that, and now it makes me want to go visit. So I feel like I'm going to put the summer list of places to go hang out.
00:05:57
Speaker
We should run a house. You know I always want to do a retreat. We should do a podcast retreat and we go to Martha's. I've been doing a retreat for two years. I love a retreat. We've planned so many pseudo retreats. To Vegas, to LA. I would be down for that too. Also down for that. Now Martha's Vineyard is on the list. Podcasting live from the vineyard.
00:06:20
Speaker
I didn't know any of this. I didn't know a single thing about Summer House except for that the previews play right after Below Deck. So sometimes I see the... Yeah, this is all I know about it. So I was telling Kela and Jasmine, I feel like when you start a new job and you're like,
00:06:40
Speaker
I don't know what you were talking about. I know that I will know. I know that I'll be fine. I'm a capable, smart person. So I know that you give me a couple of weeks and I'm going to run this place. But until then, I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. So it's like a little nerve wracking. I feel very, and I didn't know anything about the Kardashians, but I knew everything about the Kardashians. Right, of course. Get exposure.
00:07:04
Speaker
Absolutely. So this feels, I feel very in over my head, but I'm excited for that reason. So what we're going to do is I am still going to recap the
Meet the Cast
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Speaker
episode. I'm going to keep it as short and sweet as possible. So we have the context for our discussion, and then I have some auditable moments to jump in with you all. Brynn's coming in with auditable moments this season. She's an audit girl. She's an audit girl, yeah. A producer, DJ, audit girl.
00:07:32
Speaker
No longer just the recap bitch, but now a true audit queen. She's a wife. Exactly. Slashes in her title now. Wiped up. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes. We'll get there. We're going to get there. Without further ado, let's get into...
00:07:54
Speaker
This is technically Summer House Martha's Vineyard, season one, episode one. And the title is Not Your Mama's Vineyard. I don't know what the first line of dialogue was because it had a weird montage-y intro. But I've decided the first line is, if you're melanated, Martha's Vineyard is the place to vacation during the summer. So that is setting the tone.
00:08:19
Speaker
Okay, so here's the recap. The premise of the show, as I have gathered, is that they take a bunch of people who kind of know each other and they put them in this rental house. And they all seem to revolve around the main couple, Jasmine and Silas who just got married a few months ago. So they're like,
00:08:36
Speaker
the main couple, and then people who know them through different contexts are coming to the house. The lower thirds say that it's day one of 15. So it's only for two weeks? I have a lot of question marks in this recap, just FYI. Wait, you thought only two weeks? I thought, oh my god, two weeks. No, I thought only two weeks. You're calling it summer house? Summer house. I thought they lived there forever. I thought at least a month or two. What?
00:09:04
Speaker
I know. I'm like two weeks. I mean, people stay naked and afraid for three weeks. This sounds like a trial and a point. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So I was a little taken aback by the day one at 15. I know a lot can happen in 15 days, but
00:09:24
Speaker
You know, whatever. It's fine. We're in Martha's Vineyard, which we learn is historically black, as Kela was saying, has a lot of rich history. They're in this rental house. They have a caterer. This is another quasi question mark. We have a caterer for two weeks? Question mark. It should be. But the caterer is gorgeous. All those people? Absolutely. Yeah, that's great. But at first I thought she was
00:09:49
Speaker
a house guest. It was very confusing. They introduced her the same way, right? They introduced her with the name and she walked in. She got there before anyone else. She looked like she knew she was going to be on TV. So they're just putting her to work and she's a guest in this house. She is not, I don't think.
00:10:10
Speaker
Okay, so the caterer is there. They're getting set up. Jasmine and Silas are there. More people start coming to the house. And that is when I realized they know each other that was starting to click for me. There are a lot of Greek men. So a lot of men that are from fraternities and know each other through this fraternity network. And there's a lot of women who know each other from Playboy.
00:10:33
Speaker
So I do think we'll dive into that later. But that is a through line of the women. So I'm going to run down who we have in the house. Right. So far, because I think there's more folks coming that we haven't met yet. Silas and Jasmine, newly married couple and sort of seem like the leaders of this retreat. Preston, he's gay and an alpha. That is a black fraternity. And it was the first black fraternity I learned. Good job. Good job. Thank you.
00:11:02
Speaker
All these people are black, so I don't even have to say. Because they're all black. You're like, the black guy. Like, no, no, no, everything's black. I love everything. Right. What? Melanin count, 100. Yeah. 100%. We're at 100%. I have not seen one white person. No. Well, all of them. Oh, I forgot about the boyfriends. Always a man. Oh, that's right. We'll get there. OK. Jordan, is she her hearse? I think. They don't do their pronouns. No.
00:11:31
Speaker
She was the fourth black playmate of the year for Playboy. And the last. And the last, which I'm like- What does that mean? I don't know that- Remember when they wrapped it up in clothes? They never hired a black person again? Yeah, that was it. I didn't know- Stop. Not like a gift, like a Christmas gift. Like, they don't do playmates anymore? No, Playboy is done. It's done. All right. This is a side episode.
00:11:56
Speaker
No, seriously. The way that she said it, I was the fourth black payment and the last made it sound like she just burned the bridge for black. That's what I thought. And I was like, okay. She closed the door on her way out. She said no more. First and last. No more, babe. And never again. Four bunnies in, it's over. Okay. Well, thank you, Jasmine, for clearing that up. Thank you. She's been celibate for over a year. I felt that was important to go back and add. So that's Jordan. Celibate for over a year because she wants people to get to know her.
00:12:26
Speaker
Bria is another playboy bunny and she brought an emotional support dog named Milo. She is in a serious relationship with a white German dude who wants her to move to Germany. That was my notes. That's literally what I wrote in my notes. I just copy and paste it. Yeah. His name is Simon. These names are really hard to keep. My note says that Bria has a white man. That's what my notes say.
00:12:52
Speaker
I think everything is important, white and German. Yes, yes. Oh, yes, I agree. Yeah, I do think it's important. Nick and Alex arrive. They are kappas. Okay, just so we're keeping everything straight. Alex is a vegan and he doesn't drink, which I mean, I'm like dying fangirling over here. So so excited to see reality representation of a non drinker. I have no idea how they agreed to let him come on the show.
00:13:21
Speaker
And Nick brought all of his clothes because he doesn't want to wear the same thing twice. And I love it so much. I went through all of high school that way, like trying not to wear the same outfit twice. Oh, fashionista. All right. Any so far. OK, so we have I'm just going to recap. We have Silas and Jasmine. Yes. Preston, Jordan, Bria, Nick and Alex.
00:13:45
Speaker
I'll keep going, but I want to pause there. Any first impressions that jump out to you all from these folks so far? Yes, of course. I will jump in by saying, not even a beat. I already have my notes. Not a fan of Jasmine, which feels weird because that's my name. It's hard. It's hard. Isn't that weird? I'm literally writing a note like, don't like Jasmine. Very strange. Gonna have to talk to a therapist about even just writing that. And
00:14:14
Speaker
The marriage, they were together engaged after only six months. So I think that's going to be a lot of interesting flare-ups with people who don't really know each other, but they're now married. And then Preston seems like he has a lot of opinions because as soon as Jordan walked in the door, he had something to say. So I don't know if I will be a Preston fan, but we'll see.
00:14:40
Speaker
Uh, the fashionista guy, I don't like his glasses. That was what I wrote. Oh my God. I like Nick's glasses. Also, they're cute. Don't like them. Also the guy who doesn't drink and is a vegan. I put equals boring, but we'll see. Like that. Don't talk about I was fired. Wow. Yeah. I'm coming out the gate. Oh, Jordan. I think she's beautiful. And so does she.
00:15:08
Speaker
She thinks that, yeah, everyone does. Everyone does. So those are my impressions so far. Of those folks so far. May I comment? Of course. I'm fascinated with this Silas Jasmine debacle, which we will get into later. Silas is in the military, which I feel in just military lore makes sense if they got married.
00:15:34
Speaker
Very quickly. Oh, yeah. I'm interested in how that plays out. Preston, I feel like Preston is such a character. And then his timing, like the things that he says are so chaotic at times. I'm like, oh, OK. And then I have to stand Alex. I just feel like a vegan, a non-drinker. Slay. I'm just so interested in this man's journey.
00:16:03
Speaker
into it, into it. All right. How? Okay, so here I have a couple first impressions.
00:16:10
Speaker
And then I have some more when we get to the rest of the books. Oh wait, Bria. Have we met Bria yet? We met Bria. Oh, I like Bria. There's something so chaotic about her. Oh, I forgot Bria. I like Bria. Joy, Bria. She is chaotic. She's a little mess. I love her. Her dog, all of it. She's in the episode. She'd never get dressed until they go to dinner. I love that. I love that. She has those big ass fluffy bear shoes on.
00:16:36
Speaker
I love everything about Bria. I love it. I love her interview look with the braid and the gloves. She has two interview looks. The one with the blonde clip-in extensions. Love that too. I love her. I didn't love the blonde extensions, but I do love the high pony look. And her dog is black too.
00:16:58
Speaker
I will have a question. How old is everybody? Okay, so that's what I was trying to decide. You know, you can't tell really because black don't crack, but I will say over 30.
00:17:11
Speaker
What? No. Yes, because at the final scene, Jordan goes, well, maybe when I was in my 20s. Yeah, I've heard a couple of phrases of in my. I think mid 30s. Mid. That makes sense. Time like mid 30s. Yeah. Freckle over 30. Yeah.
00:17:30
Speaker
Yeah, they look so young. They do. They just look mid 30s to me. Cute mid 30s people. They look upper 20s to me. But they look like they have money. The money, you can't tell when somebody has money because you look grown when you have money. Yeah, everyone looks like they have money. Yeah, that's a good... Wow, that was a good... Ooh, little snide bit. That was good.
00:17:50
Speaker
Let's hear it, Bryn, what are your first impressions?
Cultural Dynamics and Misunderstandings
00:17:53
Speaker
My only other first impression of these folks so far is that Jasmine clear, and I agree with you, it's hard. I was referring to her in my nose as Jas, and I was like, ah, me, it's me.
00:18:11
Speaker
Jasmine seems to want to be in control of everything and I don't know is like is she supposed to be because it's like her hosting and then she gets this little like pushback that and we're gonna get all the we have to get into that like but even so in in white people world some of the comments like
00:18:31
Speaker
press and talking about black excellence. And then at the dinner table, we'll talk about them being like, I don't want to do your low prompt. In white people world, that would be fucking game over. You just. So interesting. What do you mean game over? That is aggressive. They would be enemies for life for someone to like undercut you that way. And then I'm like, okay, but they don't, she doesn't seem that like she's like fair enough.
00:18:56
Speaker
Fair enough. She's like, cool. Or like, yeah, you don't like black excellence. Cool. And I'm like, that would be a bottle of wine. People in different corners talking shit for centuries. So that's how white women act. So I'm like, yeah, watching it a little bit stressed, like, oh, God, she's gonna she will get to that part in particular. But I'm like, is this gonna build up? So I'm watching it stress for her. But those are those folks. I think Jordan is
00:19:27
Speaker
Vicious, but we'll see. Vicious? Vicious. Vicious. Vicious. When she said I put him on restrict, he was like in my DM. That was funny. That was funny. When we get into this, I asked so many thoughts because there are so many people restricted in my DMs, I felt her.
00:19:48
Speaker
We'll talk about it a hundred percent. I tackled when she said restricted. My DMs are a dusty desert. It is a free colony.
00:20:02
Speaker
My DMs are popping. We have to let you. I don't check them very much, although I should. You don't. You never look at all the cool stuff I send to you. OK, that's another episode. And see how two black women interact without getting mad. I'm still friends with you, even though you don't. That's true. That's true. I don't want that against you. That's so true. I'm not. Yeah, look at us. OK, we have to let you get through this. Oh, yes. Yes, yes. I know. We're never going to stop. OK, we haven't even gotten through all the people. Amir, Amir shows up. He's from Texas.
00:20:31
Speaker
So I feel like that's gonna come up with Jasmine. I'm ready for it. It's already here. He has a Lebanese mom and a black father and a really cute smile. Mariah is a screenwriter who has a seven year seven year old son. She's either like writing a TV show or she wrote a TV show with Jasmine. That was an aside that sort of took me off guard. And then I think Shanice is not here yet. So maybe there's
00:20:57
Speaker
Yeah, there could be more people, but that's who we have so far. We have Silas and Jasmine, Preston, Jordan, Bria with her dog, Milo and her boyfriend, Simon. We have Nick and Alex, Amir and Mariah. And we'll see if Shanice gets here. So I just want to go on the record by saying I've been following following Amir before Summer House because yes, because he's a cute Texas real estate agent. And he was like,
00:21:24
Speaker
In my explorer page, I was like, oh, great. He's cute. He sells real estate. Let me follow him. He sells it in Texas. And then now he's on my TV screen. So I was like, how cute. Now I get to see him like move around and talk every week. I'm excited. So you are like one of its original you. You're one of those girls.
00:21:43
Speaker
Yeah, you're one of the DM girls. I am not one of the DM girls. I've never slid into his DMs. Never. Never. Are you restricted? I am sliding into Kelis and she's restricting me. But no, I am not because she doesn't check them. But I have not slid in his DMs. But I thought, oh my gosh, he's so cute and has his little real estate stuff on Instagram. And yeah, I've been following him for a while.
00:22:14
Speaker
I mean, there we go. Here we go, everybody. Okay, let's keep talking. This is the people. Here's what happens.
Navigating House Dynamics
00:22:24
Speaker
So the folks get there. They settle into the house. They're doing their little side chat about who's cute and who do you want to hook up with and who do you want to be with. There is something called a truth booth, which is just another way of doing those straight to camera interviews, but they call it a truth booth.
00:22:40
Speaker
As I said earlier, Jasmine clearly wants to like run the room and she keeps giving prompts for their conversations. I did think it was especially funny when she said every year that we do this is about expansion and Mariah makes fun of her and says she's been here twice. That made me laugh. Is Mariah an Aquarius? I love Mariah. I love Mariah. Passive aggressive AF. Oh my God. Aggressive aggressive. I think she's an Aquarius somewhere in her church. We're a Scorpio.
00:23:10
Speaker
that I love it. I love Mariah continue. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So that this comes up because they're at dinner and Jasmine says something about black excellence as we were just talking about and Preston offers a counter narrative to the phrase but black excellence about how like the general understanding of black excellence is rooted in like white standards of success. And I'm like, are we watching Bravo? Like I they're having a dialogue now which I so I was like, I couldn't believe we're talking about this.
00:23:41
Speaker
After dinner, they go on the hot tub. They play Truth or Dare. The next day, day two of 15, they wake up. And some of them have to work, which really confused me. They set up their laptops and start working. It's unlike any reality show I've ever seen. I do also want to note that Jordan did her skincare routine before bed, and that's why she was playmate of the year. OK, everybody, that's what it takes to be playmate of the year. I agree.
00:24:06
Speaker
I love her so much.
Personal Stories and Tensions
00:24:09
Speaker
Yes. How late it gets her routine. Yeah, she's going to do it. We learned that Jasmine and Mariah were homeless together for a few months and lived in Mariah's car and they wrote a screenplay about it. So that's the screenplay that's happening.
00:24:24
Speaker
Most people go to the pool, Jaz and Mariah go to work on their script. There's dog hair everywhere. There's a big confrontation between them and Bria about the dog and how rude it was to bring the dog without telling or asking. Everyone's getting worked up. At one point, Jasmine's asked how Bria would feel if she showed up with a tiger, which made me laugh too. So random. What? She really loves her credibility.
00:24:52
Speaker
What if I brought a tiger? What? Eventually, Jasmine and Bria had a conversation and makeup, but it doesn't feel very genuine. It feels very forced. Everyone goes out to dinner. Jordan says she isn't going to order because she's going to make a potato. She gets home. I don't know what that means. A potato. People just say the most random things, and these editors leave it in. They leave it all in.
00:25:18
Speaker
Jasmine gives another like trying to control the conversation and gives a prompt for everyone to answer around the table. And pretty much everyone says they'd rather just talk and not do it. And this was a moment where I was like, Oh, shit's about to go down. Jasmine's like, sounds good. It was so funny. It was so funny.
00:25:39
Speaker
Yeah, they started this conversation about how Jordan was Jasmine's toxic friend, and then it like kind of spins into this like in their 20s, they were doing these things, they were out so late, and it all kind of boils down to Silas, the new husband being controlling, and then Jordan is taking all of this personally, and then Preston comes in and drops some like gender norm truth bombs on them, and like I can't quite tell
00:26:07
Speaker
I can't tell if that was helpful or not. It wasn't helpful, but it was true. It was not productive. No, I would say that Preston is pretty proud of himself with all of his contributions. He's real pleased with what he brings to the table. Even when they don't make any sense.
00:26:25
Speaker
I respect, slay. Get your two cents in there. No, neither does making a potato or bringing a tiger to it. So it's fine. That was funny. Logic is out the window. So then the conversation ends, and there's just like tense, tense-y tension shots that are going to lead us to next episode. So we end on this sort of like tense note of Jordan being a toxic friend to Jasmine, and everybody's a little silly and nervous and drunk except for Alex. And that's the end of the episode.
00:26:55
Speaker
There we are. What did you all think? I think this is going to be so exciting. Like you, I felt all over. Everything was great when I was watching it until it was time to take notes and focus my thoughts. And that's when I was like, OK, this is all over the place. But I'm glad they took the time to introduce us. And I can kick off my first audible moment if you want and get into it.
Reflections on Black Excellence
00:27:25
Speaker
I have black is not a monolith when they were sitting down at the table and they launched in the conversation of black excellence. And, you know, Amir was talking about him being, you know, mixed race and how he didn't really grow up around a lot of black people. And I know that Austin is predominantly white and not having his black father in the home. And then they're talking about black excellence and what that means.
00:27:54
Speaker
And I thought Preston's point of view was just so interesting and they're kind of going around talking about it and everyone didn't necessarily have the same idea about it. I thought that was really cool. I will say that the circles that I run in when we get at a dinner table or when we're drinking and we're talking or whatever,
00:28:17
Speaker
this comes up. These are conversations that we're having, and I thought it was really cool that a reality show, it felt authentic, that a group of presumably, like,
00:28:29
Speaker
uh, millennials were sitting around a table speaking about this. And I thought that was really cool. Then, you know, you have a black girl walking in with an emotional support dog, which would never happen, you know, in our community and be accepted in that way, maybe even five or six years ago or 10 years ago. And so I just thought it was really cool to see. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker
I know I had black excellence as an auditing point. I think it was really cool to me that that didn't get cut out of the edit. I think there are some really great points about how black excellence sometimes gets framed as just having the same things as white folks. It's just a really interesting conversation. And I agree it is a there is some diversity of thought and like identity and presence within the house guest.
00:29:19
Speaker
Do you think that, to Preston's point, that Black excellence is rooted in white supremacists or a dominant majority idea of what excellence can be or is? I don't know. I think that there are definitely times where I'm like, this use of Black excellence feels like it's running parallel to white supremacy, like tenants of white supremacy. And then sometimes I'm like, oh.
00:29:47
Speaker
I love that. I also don't, I'm going to say this. I don't use the phrase Black Excellence a lot. So I, I'm sure there is more thoughtful discourse and I've watched a few TikToks on it, but I, this is like a little out of my realm. I don't know. I do think I have seen the use of Black Excellence run parallel to white supremacy. So I can say that. And I've seen it just use it. I'm like, that's very sweet.
00:30:09
Speaker
Right I feel the same way I feel I do feel like it's probably. Parallel to you know the dominant culture and when we think about what people are saying when they say black excellence it's usually directly something that we've been told is excellent.
00:30:28
Speaker
And so I thought that was an interesting point of view that he had and how he brought that up. And until he said it, when people say Black excellence, I didn't know that I felt similar to how he felt. I always kind of been like, all right, you know, but when he said it, I was like, there it is. That's exactly how I feel about it.
00:30:46
Speaker
So I thought that was an interesting point of view. And I was like, wow, we're kicking off episode one, season one with this conversation. Let's go. This was the way to go for me. I feel like when we're talking about Critical Lens and all of that, it'll give us some really great conversations to have around this kind of stuff. So that is that. Well, Bren, what do you think about that?
00:31:09
Speaker
about Black X's? Yes, she can have an opinion about what she thought as a viewer. I thought you were going to move on to your next audit point. What do you think of watching people have that conversation? I tend to agree.
00:31:26
Speaker
What jumps to mind for me, two things. What jumps to mind for me is the first Black Panther movie, and when they show Wakanda, and they're like, this is Afrofuturism, and you're like, oh, it just looks like a white person down. Why is the most advanced and most best have to be clearly so wealthy and dense and all these things that just look like a big city?
00:31:50
Speaker
especially when you juxtapose it to like you're flying over Wakanda and it's like villagers and then you fly through the screen and then you're in the real Wakanda. But the villagers seems cool too. Like why wouldn't an actual like non-white influenced
00:32:06
Speaker
future look different than this. So that's always been on my heart. And I use the phrase black excellence in my white people class, race-conscious dialogues, but only when juxtaposed with white mediocrity. So to say, I think there are a lot in whiteness, we are told, we are somehow conditioned, no one ever says it, we're conditioned to think that black people
00:32:34
Speaker
have natural talent, are more athletic, are better singers, naturally, instead of that they work hard to do those things. So there is this taking away of black work and drive. And so we talk about it in that sense, because then we talk about white mediocrity and how
00:32:58
Speaker
how those things exist in white mediocrity kind of always wins over black excellence. So I don't ever, I see people who use it in that kind of that like live, laugh, love sort of way. Like a headline. And I've always thought about it in comparison to whiteness. And so it does have, it is a phrase that resonates with me a lot, but in that very specific way of like,
00:33:21
Speaker
I have borne witness to a lot of truly black excellence next to a lot of truly white mediocrity. Right. Which is sort of what is rooted for me in this work. So yeah, that's what I think about it. Yeah, no, I think that's valuable feedback and definitely.
00:33:41
Speaker
Not valuable feedback. No, I think it is. Okay. And the interview has concluded. No, I think that's really dope because I, you know, you're like, Oh, let's move on. But I think it's really cool. Like, I do want to hear because like we say it, it's it's not like a secret black phrase that we're
00:33:56
Speaker
keeping only at the cookouts is something that we're saying openly. And so, yeah, so then I know that other people have, you know, like thoughts around it. So I think that's really cool. You know, can I can I segue into one of my audit points for my, let's do it, please. My first one is, I don't know if I'm allowed to watch the show.
00:34:18
Speaker
Girl, what? What do you mean? I said, are they making a secret black show that white people shouldn't watch? Oh my gosh. Okay. Everyone knows what I'm going to do. I did not know that was her next point. That is so funny. It's in all caps highlighted. Are they making a secret black show that white people shouldn't watch? Why? Why do you say that? Because of exactly what you're saying.
00:34:42
Speaker
Maybe they're trying to sneak it through. They're trying to sneak it through the house lights and the below deck. Because I just don't know that the white gaze is needed for this show. Because exactly, they're talking about Black X1. When she says CP time, I thought, maybe this is, I should pass this. This isn't for me. I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be here. And then I also had an audit note. I was going to ask you all a question about their hair. And then I immediately deleted it. Because I was like, I don't need to ask about their hair.
00:35:12
Speaker
What am I doing? What's a huge part of being black in the summer? Yes. A huge part about being black in the summer is your summer hair plan. 100. I've been thinking about it all day.
00:35:25
Speaker
There's still press season. There's so many presses. There's braids season. The culture is the extent. I even brought it up Bria's extensions. I think there should be a whole episode about it. I don't think that. The bonnets. Listen. The bonnets that are being wrong were worn. I actually made a note. I was like, I love seeing bonnets on TV. I said the same thing. I love seeing bonnets on TV. OK, wait. So, Bren. Yes, The Secret Black Show.
00:35:55
Speaker
It does feel very blackity, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black. I have to say I did feel that watching it, which made me very happy that Bravo is like diving in. Interesting. Well, Bren, you know, I love black shit, though, like, no, what? I'm screaming. I just I do not see it as this is like being black exclusive.
00:36:24
Speaker
No, definitely not exclusive. It feels like there's an air of a particular privilege and class that the people on this show have amassed that is still very bravo exclusive. It's still black. And I wanna move away from this idea about this is black and this isn't because any black experience with a black person is black.
00:36:48
Speaker
But that's interesting. You say more about why. Well, I think it's, you know, that there are some conversations that black folks don't want or need to have in front of white people. Right. Oh, and that is what I thought about this. But go ahead. This is what I feel of like. And I think maybe it's just going to have to be in how I audit it because I'm like, that doesn't need my comment. I don't need to comment on that or like that is not a dynamic. Right. Like that is a conversation for the folks and not for the me.
00:37:17
Speaker
Um, and so I think that was where I like, when they start saying, when, when, when I think to see something on mainstream TV where they, where there's, which, which we know, right? Obviously that there's these reclaiming of these terms and these ideas and these words, but they're so nuanced. And to see somebody saying on mainstream TV, you're on CP time.
00:37:39
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, are we doing this? Like, doesn't that need like- It's been done. Am I for the white folks? The Housewives of Atlanta have been doing that. But I mean, um, Bravo? Yes, it's been done. Yeah, that's why I feel like SPP is like a pretty common.
00:37:52
Speaker
For black people, Kela, yeah. But I will say that like. But even on TV. Because you've been watching The Housewives, if you're not a housewife. No, but even beyond Housewives. Who else is saying? Not on friends. All their black TV shows like Bernie Mac, Living Single, Insecure.
00:38:11
Speaker
All black shows. All black shows. To that point, I have like CP time and different hairstyles. Like I have seen that before. Like it doesn't. Yes. Yes. No, they're not breaking the new ground and like content. And that's fine. That's fine. I'm enjoying this. I will say though, Brand, when she said, Oh, I'm so happy that you didn't, you know, you're the, you get to the best room because you didn't come on CP time.
00:38:36
Speaker
I thought, all right. I will just be honest. My reaction to that was like, OK, all right. We're going to get into it, get into it. Because not that I haven't heard it from other shows that I've watched, but I haven't heard that in a while on TV. So it did. I was like, oh, I made a little mental note of that. But I also like the idea of exposure.
00:39:01
Speaker
And I feel like when we talked about Kardashians having this education of this piece of pop culture that you hadn't been exposed to and how did we get here and all of that, I feel like now through our discussion, you're going to have a similar experience, perhaps, because these are also things that are in pop culture, but what part of pop culture, what sector?
00:39:26
Speaker
Yeah, no, I feel like it is, I have, and maybe I'll find that I'm wrong. I feel like I have pretty good grasp of some of the narratives and dialogues that are happening around some of these topics. I just don't know that there are, I think it's just gonna be, and I think you all have to, we have to be okay with me being like, I'm here and I'm not contributing to this, you know what I mean? So I just think they're not all conversations for me.
00:39:54
Speaker
to have, which is fine.
Bravo's Representation Challenges
00:39:58
Speaker
But it was definitely I'm like, I don't know. So quickly to follow up on that first point, my second point, very
00:40:06
Speaker
in direct opposition to my first point is they aren't going to turn this into some weird black exploitation show, are they? What? Because I could easily say more. So they have these moments where I'm like, OK, oh, we're talking about this. Oh, we're doing this. Oh, all the black people jump out of the hot tub screaming, and they laugh about it. And then I'm like, oh, this could vary with the wrong editors.
00:40:31
Speaker
this could very quickly jump into like meme culture right like hide your kids hide your wife kind of like oh I didn't even think of that like huh we're like they are still being super black but then it's like what through whose lens and then it's like
00:40:48
Speaker
black memes or something. Yeah. But then, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I was just like, Oh God, please don't, please don't go down this road. I'm jumping out because a frog was in the hot tub. I would jump out if a frog, I literally made a note that said me too. No, I don't think they did anything. I just, in that moment, we had it flashed before my eyes of like, Oh, if the wrong editors are going to try to build, they're going to try to do hair snatching and like all the fucking things and like,
00:41:19
Speaker
To be clear, Bravo has gotten her wig snatched by just like.
00:41:26
Speaker
almost all of the Bravo Cinematic Universe had a reckoning around race and Trump. Not to get into the weeds, but Real Housewives of New York, entire recasting because of how it derailed in its last season. And so something that there have been a lot of literature about is the future of Bravo and how they literally have failed to bring in Black
00:41:50
Speaker
Yeah, characters host at any point in time. And that's what it is about that on the show yet. But I want this to be a black show for black audiences, primarily not a black show for white people. That's right. Really? That's fair. I want this to be for everyone. Come on, join us the same way they joined the rest of Summerhouse. And I'm like, this is for everyone. Me too. You can watch. And they wanted to be entertained, to be created through a lens that would entertain white people.
00:42:18
Speaker
interesting. Yeah, I can see that. I can absolutely see that that starts to get like weird minstrel like that. It's just a different edit. It's a different like, I will tell you that so far, what they're doing is what we do.
00:42:34
Speaker
It only, in my opinion, will get weird if they start veering away from real things that we do as Black millennials. But as long as they're in step with what I know we're up to, I think, come over here and see what we're up to. This is the culture. This is a part of pop culture. This is a culture. Yeah, this is a culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, all right. So let's get into the dynamics.
00:43:03
Speaker
audit point for me was Jordan can run, but she can't hide. What do I mean by that? I, that hot tub Jacuzzi scene when they're like, dare you to go kiss someone that you, you know, think is cute or hot or whatever.
House Dynamics and Personalities
00:43:19
Speaker
And then they're all like giving Jordan a kiss. I'm like, Oh my gosh. And then when she walks in the door and they're shooting pool and they're like, I call dibs on Jordan. I'm like, can she unpack her bags and relax?
00:43:32
Speaker
Like, what is the problem here? That was y'all's goofy fave, Silas. Not Silas. What is y'all's goofy fave from here? My fave is in there. He's such a cornball. You think he's corny? I do. I do. We won't have this episode this week. You think he's corny too? I think he's corny. OK, not too much of him, because I want to invite him on the show. Not too much. I think we need Alex on the show. He's corny, but charming. But always, I did think he was charming.
00:43:57
Speaker
Oh my gosh, I think he's so cute and charming when he helped her with her bags. I love that. But I also, I grew up in a black house in which men carried my bags. So. So did I, but I mean, he's also from the South. I like don't. Yeah, that's what you should be doing. Like in my mind. OK, like you, Silas should have offered. He's the host. OK, well, that was my thing that everyone's obsessed with Jordan. And then.
00:44:27
Speaker
It is strange. It is strange how obsessed. Immediately thirsty they are. And openly like y'all got another y'all have women in Texas. Then she looks like hot and cute, but like she's not the first. Listen like like she came in the suit, the boy suit. Right. Jordan, you're beautiful. And and everyone calm down.
00:44:53
Speaker
Please. Everyone calm down. Have some tea. Have some water. So can we talk really quickly, too, about how everyone has little snarky comments about Jasmine? So we go from the little Martha's Vineyard comment about she's been here twice. The, oh, she's Betty Crocker. This is right up our alley, her alley. You know what I mean? Everyone has little snarky comments, and everything that bothers them about her bothers me.
00:45:22
Speaker
So, okay, this goes a little into my audit point. So I wonder, first, when I was watching this, I was like, are y'all the type of friends who make fun of each other? Because I have friends who are like this and like, okay, fine. I don't. Shady boots, but whatever.
00:45:36
Speaker
But then, this is something I come up with all the time, work friends. The women met at work. And I have so many theories to parse out about work friends, because sometimes I'm very open to work friends. Other times I'm like, I don't really know if I want to do this. By the way, we're work friends. Everyone who's listening, we are literally work friends. And this is an anomaly. So for me. Maybe we're not anymore. She's admitting to us that she's not our friend. Stop. We are friends.
00:46:05
Speaker
But it's so interesting to me that they met at Playboy. Something that I would imagine is kind of a strange environment based on our Playboy research. They came out as friends, but they're not super close, but close enough-ish to come spend two weeks in Martha's Vineyard.
00:46:22
Speaker
Two weeks, two schweaks. What's two weeks? Girl, I highly disagree. Two weeks. I love the idea of this house, but I am so introverted that like hour 18, I'm like, I have to go home. I mean, I would feel overwhelmed by people being around me for a long period of time. I think it was
00:46:41
Speaker
Jordan, who was concerned about, like, she's like, wow, this is a lot of people for, like, she was concerned on her way there. And that would be one of my concerns. But when we're talking about, like, filming and stuff, two weeks. What's two weeks? Also, that house is nice. Netflix throws people in, like, a bunker with clothes on the floor. They're all sleeping in one room. A play pin. They're in a play pin. And this is, like, a gorgeous, like, a cod house. Yeah.
00:47:11
Speaker
Okay, speaking of getting comfortable in a home, this is a great transition too. I think Bria is just such an interesting star of a person. She got comfortable very quickly. PJs, floppy socks everywhere. Her bringing Milo.
00:47:27
Speaker
So, Milo's a star. Milo's a star. I love a weenie dog. He's an agent of chaos. In my lived blackness experience, pets are touch and go. And I mean older than me, because clearly I have pets. My parents grew up where dogs were supposed to be outside the house. The dogs shouldn't be outside. Yes. Also, in the manners culture I grew up in, you would never bring your pet to someone's house.
00:47:56
Speaker
Even if it was ESA, no. Never, never. The pet doesn't go in the car, the pet doesn't go in the bed, the pet doesn't go in the furniture. They don't go in the kitchen. So I can see it both ways. They're not at the dinner table. They are not at the dinner table. They are not eating our food. Like I can see it both ways of, this is my ESA, like clearly the dog is coming with me. But then I could also see
00:48:20
Speaker
Jasmine, who is paying the safety deposit for this house, being like, you never said there was a dog. And I understand, as someone who did not have pets that shed, the annoyance of having fur in your house. Okay, as a resident- We were never allowed to have pets that had shed. Like, me having cats is the first time I've ever had a pet that shed. Wow. And I clean up here all the time. Yeah, I feel like- Not y'all sighing.
00:48:51
Speaker
You both took a deep breath. I love pets. I have a barking dog as we speak in the back. And he's in the house and has a beautiful little posturpetic bed and the whole thing, the love of my life. And I will say I grew up with animals in our home. They didn't shed. I don't know if that was on purpose or not, but now I feel like my part time job is like swiffering around.
00:49:17
Speaker
my place after him. So when they were like, he's shutting, I immediately understood. Like, OK, that is annoying. I feel that. It is annoying. You know what I mean? And you're wet from the pool. And you just get like. He was in the pool. Yeah. And this is how my mom would react. Yes. So you're wet in your swimsuit, or you just took a shower after a day in the sun, and you sit on the couch, and you lift up your back, and it's covered in dog fur.
00:49:45
Speaker
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I see it. I wrote in my notes, I wrote in my notes, I would be so mad about this dog. Like, rightfully so. Me too. Everything about it. I get mad when Becca brings her dog to the office for like an hour. Really? I am so annoyed. I can see it. I can see it. So annoyed. All he does is bark. He runs in circles. I don't like small fucking dogs. I don't like them. They're a nuisance.
00:50:13
Speaker
It would just take me off guard. It takes me, all small dogs. I love my big dog, 62 pounds. Thank you. Yes, big dog. You show up with the dog, I'm just gonna be, and it's in the pool, and it's, no. Wait, timeout, Mariah's reading. I was supposed to say what Mariah said. Okay, another reason I ride for Mariah. Mariah came into the house being like, absolutely not. She was, Jasmine, we need to go work.
00:50:41
Speaker
Then when she does the reenactment of, imagine I'm swimming in the pool, and she mimics jumping out like the Little Mermaid, and I just have dog hair. I was so disgusted when she said that. I was like, ew. I was like, that's a writer.
Future Prospects and Screenplays
00:50:56
Speaker
That's a screenwriter, because she took us with her on that path. Sidebar, I think that their screenplay or whatever they're working on is something I'd be interested in seeing. So I hope they can get that off the ground.
00:51:08
Speaker
Me too. Me too. I think Milo is a very good dog and that happened. One last audit point. I thought it was really sweet how Bria called her man. She was like, this is some bullshit. Let me call my man. I thought that was so tough. I thought that was tattle-tally. You think it's, who else are you going to tell?
00:51:27
Speaker
trying to hook me up with the guys in the house and disrespecting our relationship. Calm down. I felt like it is disre- Okay. Actually, I figured y'all were going to say this. Bren, you may not have this contact. Bren hasn't even said a word. Bren, in Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip season three, there's a castmate on the show named Leah and Leah does not drink. And everyone was DMing Leah being like, we support you. We did it at your journey. She shows up in the house.
00:51:51
Speaker
Take a shot, I can't wait for you to not be sober, blah, blah, blah. And Leah confronts them and is like, listen, being non sober would ruin my entire life. I became sober because I ruined my life. And the way Alex came into the house and he said I didn't drink, Silas didn't push another drink on him, it was over. Bria told Jasmine in advance that she had a man, da, da, da, da, Jasmine, as they're walking upstairs, well, who do you want? Why would you do that? Why would you do that to her?
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah, I thought she was a little judgy wudgy when she was just like, oh my gosh, you know. She was like, and Brea goes, I live with my man. Like, she's like, she lives with him in Germany. Like, what is that? And I guess the point I'm trying to make is like.
00:52:35
Speaker
Y'all don't selectively push people. Don't selectively push people. Because y'all didn't say anything twice about Alex. Alex is a vegan. Y'all barely said anything. I hope he can hear. I mean, him being a vegan is something I would have talked about a little bit more when he starts saying, no one touched the salad. Relax, bro. Calm down. You have a caterer. It's going to be fine. Exactly. It's going to be fine. There's a caterer. Enough already. Who has another audit program? I do. I have my final one. Do you have one, Bryn?
00:53:05
Speaker
I have one more. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I'm going to go. I'm taking us off to the side though. We're going off to the side. Okay. I have to tell, I don't know if you guys know this about white people. I can't wait to learn more about white people through this experience. Look at this cultural exchange. Okay. Let's do it. Wow. Let's do it. White people do, white people do not know about black Greek life.
00:53:28
Speaker
I thought about that when I was watching that. They don't know. When I first learned about it, which was several years ago, so to most white people, especially Midwestern white people, and we're not monolithic either. A lot of diversity in the white community, you guys. Yes, yes.
00:53:48
Speaker
they we think of Greek life as like blonde sorority girls and like black pants and a crop top right like rushing their sorority so to learn that they're so like just that's all just to say that is the I think that's I think that's the thing about
00:54:06
Speaker
Black culture that a lot of white folks don't know that Greek life is so important. It's completely different than white Greek culture. The cultural significance is much different. So different. Because to me, you're automatically sort of a douche if you were in white Greek things. We're not
00:54:28
Speaker
Well, that's something for us to overcome. Right. You're like back in those days, you like push it back to college and it was a thing back then. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but but I say a huge part of the black folks I know are, you know.
00:54:45
Speaker
I'm constantly, Tiffany's like, oh, that's just Kelly and her, if I get her sorority wrong, fuck the show. Don't even make anything up. Don't even try it. I know how serious it is. I'm not even going to say it. Let's save your relationship. Yeah, please don't even mention it. She's in the best one. She's in the best one. Yeah, whatever that is. I love that. I love that. I love that. So that's just sort of a comment. And then I have a question. OK, go ahead.
00:55:15
Speaker
Talk to me about white parties. Why? Oh, I have a note about that. I have a note. I don't know what it is. I feel like I'm too young to go to a white party. Oh, OK. Can I speak as a person who is a female? Last time I went to home as a family reunion. Oh, my God. OK. OK. So I want to go, but invite me. OK. So well, one thing.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yes, to be Greek and like pledge in the black community, one is prestigious, right? That's like a big deal. It's huge. And it's like building your family. And yes, it's a really, really big deal. Okay. White parties is, I personally can't stand a white party. I've been, oh,
00:56:03
Speaker
I hate white parties. We, I would love a white party. If you said you want a white party, Marle, I would be ready. I would. You and every other black person in America. Oh my god. We look good in yellow too. What is wrong? I wear a lot of yellow. I want a white party so bad. I hate white parties.
Cultural Events and Status Symbols
00:56:24
Speaker
Everyone who's having them is like older than me. Black people love white parties. How do your clothes look so white? Exactly. How do you not get anything on it? Exactly. How do you keep it crisp? Thank you. How do my mom do all these things? All of my moms are better on the show. No. What? I'm black. Make up on my dress before I walk out the door. I obviously don't, I'm not included in that part of the black excellence. I hate white parties. I've been to so many, and yes, Keela,
00:56:50
Speaker
For some reason, if you're 40 and up, it is your jam. My 40th birthday party is going to be a white party. Let me just start preparing now. It's just too much.
00:57:02
Speaker
It's going to be white and gold. White and gold. That's another thing. It's another thing. Black people love a white and gold party. I was meant to get older. Wow. I love it. I loved it the second night. I don't know the white party. As soon as I saw everyone changing to your white, I was like, of course, of course, of course they are. It's something that I don't know, Bren. There's no cultural explanation. Yeah, there's nothing deeply like, oh, it's in our. No, it's just. No.
00:57:32
Speaker
But if y'all know, only that every time a group of black people says it, it shocks me for a second because it sounds like they're saying a white party. And I'm like, oh, no, we don't do that. Because it came from your mouth, I was like, you mean like white people having parties? And then I remember the context of the show and I was like, oh my God, a white party, immediately.
00:57:51
Speaker
No. Oh, God. Please invite me to a white party in Chicago. Please don't. I don't. I don't want. I've been to one and I wore cream in correct moves. Oh, no. You can't wear cream. That's really embarrassing. You have to wear white. You wear cream. Look, I can't wear white. Look at me. Like, this is why white people don't have white parties. You're right. I thought about that. It will be scary. Do white people have, like, certain color parties?
00:58:17
Speaker
Like y'all have red parties or blue parties? No. No, we have like 80s proms, you know. Oh, yeah, that's true. We like a theme party. I also hate theme parties as well.
00:58:31
Speaker
Oh, Jasmine. I love theme parties. I love white part. I love a theme. OK. I'd love to play. I think the theme can't be a color. Like let's do better. And also like not agree. Agree. Agree.
00:58:49
Speaker
Okay, maybe a pink party. A pink party would be fun. Make it better. Make it more. That's not a theme. A color is not a theme. A color is not a theme. This is a poll for the listeners because I disagree. I think a color is a theme. All right. What? You think it's a theme? I do. Denim party, pink party. Denim's not a color. White party. Okay, but you're all material. That's the theme. Y'all are hate. Wow. My next life party is going to be a color theme.
00:59:16
Speaker
Good. All right. Jasmine, take yourself to the last point. All right. My last point is Jasmine says, I'm a wife now. So I'm a wife now. Silas, she's a wife now. We're married now. Thank you. Thank you for elevating this moment. Can we get into... Okay. So everyone, if you haven't heard me say it before, I am single.
00:59:43
Speaker
And say it like it was like a critical diagnosis. It is. And also ready to mingle. So go to my Instagram, jasmine underscore nlsn.
00:59:55
Speaker
I will tell you that this, I'm a wife now, is some bullshit that I'm so overhearing. Great. Congratulations. Is that a station in life that you should be, it's elevated? Get over yourself already. And I also didn't like how they were sitting at the table and Silas had the nerve
01:00:18
Speaker
to turn around and look at Jordan and be like, they were going out late night and she was with, turns his head, Jordan. I have been Jordan in so many situations. And if you're my friends and you listen to this, you know exactly who you are with your husbands who thinks that I'm the single friend who gets you into trouble, which is a lie. Listen.
01:00:39
Speaker
I cannot stand that whole dynamic of I'm a wife, she's a wife, we're married, you're single, you're the heathen, we are not. You were literally just single people six months ago. Shut up. And that's where I stand on that. I am so glad you brought this up for two reasons.
01:01:04
Speaker
I love the drama of saying I'm a wife. I am not a wife, currently. No, because it's become such lore, like real housewives. I'm talking Atlanta and Potomac. I'm a wife. I'm a mother. When I'm a wife, and if I'm a mother, I will be. I actually playfully say it all the time. I'm a wife. I love it. You can say it, Keelah. I'll still be your friend. It's fine. But I would never do it seriously. It's just so funny to me. What does that have to do with anything?
01:01:32
Speaker
And people always throw it up when it's especially not relevant. You know who throws it up? Black women. You know why they throw it up? Because I'm going to tell you, hold on, because hold on statistically, a Black wife.
01:01:48
Speaker
It's a small group. It does feel like an elevated piece or station. It does feel like a big deal. Can I double you up? Being a wife is politically leveraged for women. It is a status. To be married is a status. It's just the way it is.
01:02:11
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01:02:40
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Those two in particular though those two in particular I wrote this down Yeah, I think Silas is rich. I think he is really like high-key rich
01:02:50
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like money. I think this is why Jasmine and I said jazz. This is why jazz married him so quick. This is giving me Raven and that's what they give me military. Wow. No, because he's in the reserves, girl. He's also in finance. He's a bank. It's part time military. It's just to like show your muscles. Right. That's true. It's not it's not really no disrespect to anyone in the military, but that's not
01:03:17
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Absolutely not. I need a chart. And all the love to like our Nigerian friends. And he says Nigerian? Yeah. He's from Liberia. He's from Liberia. All right. All right. I think he's rich. He might be. I think he's rich. Because he doesn't seem fun. I'll tell you that. At all. At all. Can I make a point about this?
01:03:41
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Jasmine, as someone who also has been single, primarily single, as an identity. Not primarily single. Oh my God. Yeah, I would say more often than not, before I met my current partner, I was single. Okay. I can't stand the way a man, your man, you're my friend. I'm here because I'm your friend. You let your man put me in hot water.
01:04:02
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and didn't defend me. That is disrespectful behavior. And the way Brea and the other people timed him were like, in New York, everybody goes out at 130. The club doesn't even open. So which is beside the fact, your man fixed his face to tell me something.
01:04:21
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Out of pocket. Out of pocket. Jasmine should have thrown a plate. We're being completely in her right to do so because I know you not just you married this woman. What are you talking about? It's ridiculous. And I feel like their marriage and how they're trying to govern it being such newlyweds amongst a group of single people is just going to be a reoccurring thing. So you'll hear me get, you know, just all wrapped up into that periodically.
01:04:50
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I love it. We covered some ground today. My goodness. Look, this is the longest episode I think we've ever had. This is polarizing to us. We're really upset. We're really into this.
01:05:05
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I feel like the first one. I'm activated. Yeah. Take us home, Jasmine. Get us out of here. Okay. So everybody, thank you so much for listening. If you made it this far. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Follow us on Instagram. Our handle is the pop culture audit, where we have random polls and things that you hear about us speak about in the podcast. Maybe we'll have a little snippets over there.
01:05:32
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